Join John Rush and Andy Pate on another exciting Friday episode of Rush to Reason. This week, they dive into the nuances of relationships and the healing power of stand-up comedy with a review of the film Is This Thing On? From enlightening stories about personal growth to the intricacies of navigating divorce, they discuss how humor can be a crucial coping mechanism during tough times.
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It’s finally Friday on Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush.
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I think that you got the wrong impression about me. I think in all fairness, I should explain to you exactly what it is that I do.
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What I do have are a very particular set of skills. Skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you.
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What do you want to do tonight?
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The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world. Stick a fork in me, Jerry. I’m done.
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Now, here is your host of Rush to Reason, John Rush.
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All right, happy Friday, everybody. We made it through the week. We’re here.
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Yes, we did.
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Andy Pate with me today. Of course, Charlie Grimes, our engineer. We’ve got, what, three movies to do today, Andy?
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Yes, we do.
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Three movies. Okay, so let’s do this. Because we’ve got three, let’s do the impossible question now. We’ll get that hammered out, give Andy plenty of time that way. Yesterday’s impossible question was, what is a mathematical object often used in logic and computer science to represent true-false operations? I’m going to say this wrong, I’m sure. Boolean, B-O-O-L-E-A-N, Boolean Algebra. It’s a branch of mathematics that deals with variables that have only two possible values.
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Okay.
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So there you go. Today, which NFL team? Andy might know this one off the top of his head. Which NFL team was the first to finish the season 0-16? Tampa Bay? Nope.
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Oh, okay. Well, I took a shot.
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Good shot, by the way. Good shot. So that’s the question of the day, which NFL team was the first to finish the season 0-16, meaning a perfect?
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Yeah, I don’t think there were 16 back then. Okay. But anyway, I took a shot.
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Meaning they were not very good.
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They were not very good. No, they were not.
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They lost every game.
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Yeah.
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All right, so what movies do we have today, Andy?
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Okay, the first one’s going to be Is This Thing On? It’s a stand-up comic movie. The next one is Greenland 2 Migration, kind of an action film. And the next one is Primate, a horror film.
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About monkeys?
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About a monkey.
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A monkey.
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A monkey. And by the way, it’s based on a real story. Oh, really? Mm-hmm. Terrifying. Of course, they’ve exaggerated and expanded on it.
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Big time. Yeah, you’ve got to spice it up a little bit.
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I mean, do you really want to see real life on the screen? Not much. Every now and then there’s a story that good, but for the most part, real life is rather bland. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah, you’re right, actually. It is. And occasionally you see something where it’s like, oh, that’s pretty exciting. But yeah, most of us live a pretty average, boring life, Andy.
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Yeah. You know, this is an interesting time of year for movies, John, because… I’ll just say it. It’s a downtime, right? There’s not going to be a lot of people, not a lot of butts in the seats, so to speak.
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Until like Valentine’s Day?
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Right. And so Hollywood puts out just a crazy number of movies and different movies, and they’re all very different. These three are very different. But like last year, we had one that came out called Novocaine, which I gave my second best movie of the year, which came out in January. So you never know.
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Okay, so we’ll come back. We’ve got three movies to do. Hour two, what are we doing hour two? I know we’ll do NFL, which there’s not a lot left of, so that’ll be a pretty short one. And then what are we doing after that?
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We’re going to do stand-up comics.
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Okay, and you’ve got some nice clips and things for us.
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I’ve got a few clips. Yes, I do.
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Good, because I’ll need those. Not my… It’ll be a lot of clips. That’s not my forte. Let’s just say that.
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Yeah, we’re just going to be doing a lot of clips, quite honestly, and listening to some guys make us laugh.
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We’ll have a lot of fun in the second hour then. All right, let’s do this. We’ll take a break. We’ll come back. We’ll get fired off on movies. Dr. Scott is next, and I say this a lot, and I mean it. If you really want a doctor that’s thinking of your overall health and how to improve your health and really have a longer, more healthy, fun life, talk to Dr. Scott today. 303-663-6990.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate and John Rush. Are you ready for a movie?
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Absolutely.
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Yeah, we got a triple feature.
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Absolutely, yes.
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Okay. Well, John, a man turns to stand-up comedy to cope with his life in Is This Thing On?
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Fifteen buck cover. To get a drink?
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Hey.
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Yeah.
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How come she didn’t have to pay fifteen bucks?
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She signed up for the open mic. Look at me. I kind of look like the guy who tells you the Ferris wheel doesn’t work at the amusement park.
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I got to date better men. My ex wouldn’t let me touch his Magic the Gathering cards. I’m going to shake it up tonight.
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So let’s put your hands together for Alex Novak.
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I think I’m getting a divorce. What tipped me off was that I’m living in an apartment on my own. And my wife and kids don’t live there. That was probably the biggest clue.
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What is the problem?
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I don’t know, it’s complicated.
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You don’t have to tell me that.
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I guess we just slowly grew away from each other. You two have always been very different.
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And you and dad are twins?
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Your father is an immigrant to this country.
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I know that.
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And I’ve always been a woman who wants the taste of the exotic. Why are you doing stand-up?
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Getting a divorce. You cheated. No.
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You didn’t cheat, and you’re getting a divorce? That’s some white guy again.
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i’ve been doing stand-up is it like a hobby well i’m not about to quit my job and go on tour it’s just that’s something i look forward to hey listen do you mind if i drop them off here for a couple hours don’t ambush me like this in front of the boys you suck you suck give it up for me i’m doing great i’m paying rent on the apartment and uh mortgage for a house that i don’t even live in anymore so i’m the only one who doesn’t know about this
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I have goals this year I want to achieve.
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Do you have goals, Dad? Oh, of course I do. You knew I was struggling.
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You left me alone.
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I left you alone? You checked out? I was unhappy in our marriage. I wasn’t unhappy with our marriage. Man, I wish I had a punchline.
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What I like about you is you’re so innocent. You’re not naive, you’re innocent. You are good. I mean, you’re bad at stand-up, but you’re good.
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You have a good heart. All right, John, what do you think?
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Doesn’t sound bad.
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Sound interesting. Okay, here we go. Will Arnett and Laura Dern. Two big stars. They star as Alex and Tess Novak, a married couple with two kids that is well on the way to divorce. For the friends, they still act like a couple while preparing for the final split. But it’s over. They barely fight. They’re past that. They’re well past that. Well, Alex is a sad, miserable finance guy. He’s got an apartment along with the old home with Tess, and he shuffles between them, fulfilling dad obligations and paying bills. At one point, he goes to a bar, but he can’t afford the $15 cover. Luckily, it’s open mic, so Alex agrees to take his turn and talk about his life. He gets a few laughs. Then Alex starts getting more ideas, so he sharpens his act and does more clubs. Before long, he’s actually doing stand-up comedy. Pretty much to cope.
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Okay.
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That makes sense. That’s a good way to cope. Tess is keeping it together as well. This is no bitter divorce, John, but rather a mutual agreement. She cares about Alex and hopes he’ll be okay. Both understand the responsibilities of sharing their two kids, and neither is bitter. They just aren’t compatible. Well, Bradley Cooper, who also directs this film, he plays Alex’s scummy friend, Balls. He’s a loser, but he’s also good support for Alex. And, you know, John, it’s kind of funny what kind of people are there for us. Have you noticed this?
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Mm-hmm.
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I mean, you always think it’s going to be, I don’t know, the most moral, the best people or whatever, and yet it’s the people who could be losers, and they wind up being the ones who totally come through for you in life. It’s… Yeah, when you’re at the end of your rope.
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Yeah, it’s amazing how that works.
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I kind of think that Jesus was thinking about that with a good Samaritan. You know what I mean? Anyway, you see that with balls in this movie. It’s pretty good. Eventually, Alex must decide how to finish his marriage, especially how to tell his parents. Well, that’s tough. Since they’re still married and divorced for him, well, it feels like failure. I mean, my parents have been married forever. I think a lot of people have gone through that because parents were married longer.
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Right, right.
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Well, what comes next? Hard to say since whether doing stand-up or acting happy for our friends, we often spend much of our lives on a stage. And that is the story of Is This Thing On? What do you think?
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I noticed Peyton Manning’s in this.
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Yeah, he is.
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Is it like just a short thing or is he…
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It’s a cameo, but he actually does it well, does some acting. He is a guy that the wife goes to because she was a volleyball star, and she wants to get into coaching.
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Okay.
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And he’s done it, and he kind of guides her back into it, and they might do some dating, might not, going to see how it goes, and there you go.
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Okay, good.
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Peyton Manning.
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Interesting.
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Yeah. Well, what works in this thing? Is this thing on? Well, first of all, you got a very poignant theme, John. Sometimes it’s easier to laugh at our problems than to cry. It really is. You see, when we laugh, we’re putting things in outside perspective, looking at the problem and laughing at it. Whereas when we cry, we are basically buried in it. Does that make sense?
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Mm-hmm. Absolutely.
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Yeah. A lot of times when you laugh at your problems, people think that you’re taking them too lightly. No, this is therapy. Yeah. Yeah. This way, I don’t want to bury myself in it. And I think a lot of that is because when people bury themselves in their problems, they wonder, can I ever get out? Right. And that’s the joy of laughter. Next. Naturally, the main characters, Dern, Arnett, Cooper, they’re great in their roles. They really are. Each is so believable, and yet they convey depth, especially Laura Dern. Now, Laura Dern’s just a great actress, so you expect that. I haven’t seen her in anything for quite a while. Well, it’s not so depressing, okay? This movie is not so depressing like most Bradley Cooper stuff.
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I was just going to ask that.
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Oh, my gosh. Well, it’s lighter than most of his stuff, even with a marriage in decline. This film basically tells people just because a marriage is ending, that doesn’t mean these two people are miserable victims. It’s okay to be fine. It’s okay to have fun around them. And you can let them be fine, too. Let them deal in the way that they’re going to deal. Relax around them. And I think this movie really taught that lesson. It’s a good one. The relational tension and hope is pretty unique. It’s more realistic because in most of these movies, you either go one way or the other, right? You either have this super easy ordeal. with tons of hope or it’s just tension tension war of the roses awful battle and in this movie they really it was mostly hope but they really did find the midpoint and i like that and finally the biggie the audience liked it okay i asked a bunch of audience members and they did like the movie okay what doesn’t work in this is this thing on well definitely too long john like other cooper movies editing let’s face it is not a strong suit I mean, we know that. Bradley Cooper does not edit. Okay? I mean, if it’s in his head, it’s going on the screen. And the pacing was very poor early on and in the third quarter. So it was very slow in the beginning. And then you get going, then it really slows down again. And then, relationally, it picks up toward the end. And that’s good. Not nearly funny enough, whether on stage or off it. It needed much better writing. So I just want to warn people, if you’re going to this thing thinking – Well, I’m going to see a lot of good stand-up. I’m going to see a lot of funny moments. I’ll tell you what. If you were to watch the documentary on the first night of Saturday Night Live, it’s called Saturday Night Live, you’re going to see a lot funnier stuff. Okay? You watch this… It’s not very funny. The stand-up is not very funny. A lot of stuff I’ll play in the next hour is much funnier. I just wasn’t impressed by that. I would think that if you’re going to do something like this, if you want the movie to really hit, get somebody to do some better writing for it. Personal opinion. Next. Cooper’s character, of course, was pathetic and sad, like always. This dude must lighten up. Bradley Cooper, wherever you are, please get therapy. I mean, jeez. All you do are these miserable, awful, pathetic, lives falling apart, miserable characters. I tell you what, I feel terrible for the guy. I really do. He’s a multi-cazillionaire in Hollywood who is one of the greatest looking guys on the planet. Why does he do that? And I feel bad for him. I don’t know why he does this. I mean, this guy even made Rocket depressing in, what is it, the third season? Guardians of the Galaxy.
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Right, right, right.
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He made Rocket depressing.
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Right.
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I mean, this is incredible. Please stop that. Next, there’s the obligatory gay couple. Didn’t bother me, but I thought I’d mention it just so people know the contents there. That’s it. Rotten Tomatoes gave this a score of 84. Nope. Actually, it dropped down.
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79%.
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Okay. Okay, 79%. Okay. I think that’s a little rich because… Wild, relationally, and great acting. It was relationally cool, and it had great acting. The simple fact is, it’s not nearly funny enough, and it did drag. So I’m going to go three stars. The people there liked it, so I’m giving it three. Political, three. Moral, religious, for obvious reasons. One.
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Right.
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I mean, come on.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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By the way, can I ask a request to all our audience? In Hour 2, I really did look as hard as I could for clean stuff. So please be forgiving with me. I did my best.
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All right.
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I mean, stand-up comics are not clean.
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Okay. There’s a few that are.
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Yeah, there are a few.
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But most are not.
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Yeah, almost none.
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Here’s what’s funny about that, really quick, just to interject. Yeah, go ahead. You can be clean and be funny.
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Oh, yeah.
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I mean, it is possible. I’ll mention one of those as we get to that stage of the show because there are some that can be extremely clean and extremely funny at the same time.
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Right. There are some who do it very well. That would be, I would say, maybe 5%. Oh, yeah.
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At best. Oh, yeah. I think you’re probably right on that.
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Anyway, do I recommend going to Is This Thing On? It’s for a particular crowd.
SPEAKER 04 :
We’ve got a couple minutes here. For what crowd would this be for?
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I would say people middle-aged. People who are middle-aged and very mature in their movie-going experience. They enjoy a dramedy. They enjoy the drama. They enjoy getting into people’s lives. They enjoy being able to follow it and really hope for somebody. But if you’re going to this and you’re a younger person or maybe you’re somebody wanting some yucks, you’re not going to get nearly enough, I’ve got to warn you. So do I recommend going to it? Yes, if you’re in the right group. Is this thing on?
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The best export we have is common sense. You’re listening to Rush to Reason.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Andy Pate filling in for John Rush. No, I’m not. He’s right next to me.
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No, I’m here.
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I know, I did that on purpose.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, you’re fine.
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John!
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Yes?
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Are you ready for another movie?
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This one especially, because I did like the first one, even though it’s sort of a woke-ish, end-of-the-world climate movie, whatever, but I still liked it.
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Yeah, I thought the first one was pretty fun. By the way, these triple features are kind of fun, aren’t they? They’re challenging, I’ll be honest, for me.
SPEAKER 04 :
There’s a lot going on.
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They’re kind of fun. Okay, here we go. A sequel takes us from disaster film to post-apocalyptic world in Greenland 2 Migration.
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What is that? A storm? No, that’s not a storm. The night before our wedding, my dad took you aside. What did he say to you?
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He said to build a better world together. To build a world led by kindness and compassion and understanding. One not just worth living in, but living for.
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Okay, John, what do you think?
SPEAKER 04 :
Again, the previews look good. That’s all I can say. That’s all I’ve seen of it.
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Well, let’s jump in. Okay, Gerard Butler. I love him.
SPEAKER 04 :
I do, too.
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Yeah, I like him a lot. And by the way, the actress who’s in this, I like her a lot, and I wish she was in more. That’s Morena Baccarin. These two return as John and Allison Garrity, who first led their son to find the underground bunkers of Greenland when comets wrecked the Earth. Now it’s a few years later and they must emerge from the bunkers and find their way in a post-apocalyptic world. The fallout, John, has been devastating. Well, where are they headed? France. Yes, people are actually going to France. I don’t understand.
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Okay.
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That’s like people going to California.
SPEAKER 04 :
No reason why.
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It’s just what they… Yeah, well, no, there’s a reason. I’ll get to it in a moment. The reason is a great asteroid is hit near there and apparently has created a paradise on Earth. Apparently there were things on the asteroid that worked well with the soil, that worked well with the Earth there, and that it’s doing much better than the cataclysmic sights that you see everywhere else on the planet. Anyway, that’s the theory. And the theory is better than hopelessness. Well, this is a survival film, and along the way, the Garrides must battle the inevitable collapse that is happening in the shattered world. There are bandits, political forces, and a very shaky ladder bridge, John. That’s scary. Okay. Okay. It’s never easy when you’re trying to save your family. But one thing is much worse. John is sick and he’s getting sicker. So because of this, he’s really driven. He’s got to get his family to this paradise on earth. If it actually exists, he’s got to get them there. And it means everything to him. And the clock is ticking. And yet, this film has less panic and harrowing pressure than the first film. Because you remember the first film.
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Oh, yeah.
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Well, in terms of the character’s emotional state, they’re more resigned to the hard facts of a hard life. In the first film, of course, everybody is shocked. They’re shocked out of living normally, and then they’ve got to try to get to the bunkers. Okay, well, we all adapt, John. But to what lengths will we go to survive? How can we protect ourselves in a lawless world? I mean, just ask Minneapolis, I guess.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, no kidding. What is it like there right now?
SPEAKER 04 :
Ask Tim Walz.
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I guess. Oh, wow. Who do we trust when there are no standards and no society to speak truth to power with any real force? I mean, there’s nobody around to say this has to be right and this has to be wrong. They’re at war.
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Right.
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It’s just kind of crazy. Anyway, John, it’s a fight to survive and reach France. Yes, France. Yes, France. In Greenland to migration. What do you think?
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, again, doesn’t sound bad. It’s the aftermath, basically, is what you’re saying. Right.
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Well, what works in Greenland to migration? First of all, John, I’m just glad it’s because of a meteor, not global warming. Thank you. I mean, for that alone, unless they want to claim that, you know, I don’t know, men created the meteors. I think we’re safe here. So I kind of like that. Next, Gerard Butler.
SPEAKER 04 :
Go ahead. You’re fine.
SPEAKER 14 :
Gerard Butler is a guy’s guy.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. He is. He is.
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He’s not a pretty boy, not a wimp, right? But he’s also not some unreachable standard like Thor or Schwarzenegger.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
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Just a big, tough, real guy. Absolutely. I like this guy.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 14 :
Baccarin is underused in Hollywood, in my opinion. If you ask me, she never mails in a role. She’s pretty, but purposeful and tough, and not afraid to show her age. I’ve always really liked Marina Baccarin. Now, there’s one harrowing situation, and it really has us on the edge of our seats like cliffhanger. This was a really great scene. And finally, a quick film at only an hour and 38 minutes. That’s good. Now, what doesn’t work in Greenland 2 migration? Oh, boy. Well, the pacing is start, stop, start. I don’t like that. Lots of dead space between the action sets. You drop 20 minutes from this, and you’re really going to hum along, but then you’d only have an hour and 18 minutes, so you’d have to fill it with other things. The bottom line is the pace would speed up, slow down, speed up, slow down. It was a little frustrating. Sometimes that’s good because it’s letting you catch your breath. In this movie, you really didn’t have to catch your breath, so I didn’t feel that. Next, the dialogue is weak, especially with younger characters. Not well done. Next, poorly explained. Why are all these groups at war?
SPEAKER 04 :
Where’d they come from?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, where did they come from? Why are they at war? Why are their battle lines in the way of the French meteor area? So they’ve got to go across this battle line to get to this French area. I mean, I don’t know. Maybe the people there are trying to protect what they have, if it’s even good, if it’s even there. Nobody tells you. They don’t tell you much of anything. It really needed another harrowing scene. That’s another thing. You have that wonderful harrowing scene, and I’ll just tell you, it’s a ladder bridge. And it’s really well done. They needed, I would say, at least two more scenes like that. And it really would have helped the movie. Next. There’s this girl. And, you know, they have a teenage boy now. He’s 15, about to be 16. And lo and behold, they find a girl along the way.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wow, of course they did.
SPEAKER 14 :
Who’s exactly his age.
SPEAKER 04 :
Of course she is.
SPEAKER 14 :
And she looks like a supermodel.
SPEAKER 04 :
Of course she does.
SPEAKER 14 :
And I’m telling you what, John, that makeup is perfect in this post-apocalyptic world. I mean, she looks like a French supermodel. The supermodel girl was ridiculous. I’m serious. And you may be wondering, Andy, I’m telling you, if you watch it, you’d be like.
SPEAKER 04 :
Where’d she come from?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. Oh, well, gee, that’s perfect. Okay. At least remove her makeup or something. Such an instant romance defies belief. And it took no writing. It was a total setup for the next film. This was lame. Lame. Okay. That they put her in this. Finally, this film needed a villain. Really did. What makes a lot of great movies is it can keep some tense and gives you focus for the hero. A villain.
SPEAKER 04 :
Bad guy.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. Now, I understand the villain here is just trying to survive. I get it. In this windswept world. But that’s not the same. I need some villains. I need somebody that I’m fighting against. And it just wasn’t the same. The roving bands shooting bullets that they can’t even make anymore was kind of… I mean, think about this. In this post-apocalyptic world, would you have an endless amount of bullets that you could just fire away?
SPEAKER 04 :
Rob, I mean, all the books I read, no, those things have a shelf life or a lifespan, if you would, because they get used up and there’s no ability to reproduce what you’re using up.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, and you’re about five to seven years in at this point.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s a long ways. And it’s disappointing that I didn’t see the film, but it’s disappointing that they didn’t explain where these other folk had come from. Yeah. Why are they there? What did they do to survive? You’d think they could have filled some of what you’re talking about in with some backstories on some of those.
SPEAKER 14 :
John, what they should have done is kind of a Game of Thrones thing, show the map, but also at one point they try to show a map and it’s just a mess. It doesn’t show you anything, right? Give us a simple map that kind of shows these people here.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and even some dialogue with those individuals that survived.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, these people here, these people here, these people here.
SPEAKER 04 :
Make it make sense. Why are they there?
SPEAKER 14 :
This group is against that group. Here’s why this group is against that group. Maybe they’re warring over this commodity. Maybe it’s water. Maybe it’s gold.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don’t know.
SPEAKER 14 :
Maybe it’s bullets. Exactly. You know, something, anything. Help us out here. But mainly you just have them trying to fight to survive. And I’m sorry, it’s really kind of hard to get into that.
SPEAKER 04 :
I care about the family. But I agree with you on that one because, again, all of these – I do a lot of books on Audible and things like that. And the reality is they, of course, in a book, they have to do a really good job of explaining why did this character come on to the scene and so on and what’s their background and all of that. To me, that’s part of the whole story that you’re talking about.
SPEAKER 14 :
John, every Friday before this show, what is your show?
SPEAKER 04 :
Ready Radio.
SPEAKER 14 :
Ready Radio, okay, it’s basically survivalist radio.
SPEAKER 04 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 14 :
In various situations.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, it is. You’re right. That’s exactly what it is.
SPEAKER 14 :
Some less serious than others, but you know what I mean. That’s what it is. I think you would have been very disappointed. In a lot of this, just not that they didn’t face things, but that they didn’t explain them well enough because, honestly, that would have made it better. It would have made it more interesting, more fascinating, better. They explained a couple little things here and there, but not well enough. Okay. Rotten Tomatoes gave Greenland 2 migration 59%. Not very good. Not very good. No, quality, I’m going to go a little lower. I’m going to give it two stars. All right. I’m sorry about the pacing. It’s not that I had a terrible time. It’s just that it… You didn’t have a great time. Yeah, tell you what, do you mind if I add a half star?
SPEAKER 04 :
Sure.
SPEAKER 14 :
Let’s make it two and a half.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
It was a movie. Let’s just say that. It was a movie. Political, three. Moral, religious, three. Didn’t say a thing. Not really.
SPEAKER 04 :
Really?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, obviously.
SPEAKER 04 :
So even on the political side, they didn’t preach about climate change, end of world, how bad man is, and so on?
SPEAKER 14 :
No, they really didn’t. I’m surprised. I really am surprised at that. If they spent much time on it, I missed it. It’s possible. But the bottom line is, their problem was meteors. Okay, their problem was things getting destroyed.
SPEAKER 04 :
It had nothing to do with climate change.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. And there were a couple scenes that were pretty cool with the meteors. Because there’s still some coming and straying in through the atmosphere. Got to, man. You got to have some CGI.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right, right.
SPEAKER 14 :
And those were enjoyable, but… Yeah, I’ll go two and a half. Do I recommend going to Greenland to migration? Why not? I think at this time of year, it’s a decent little post-apocalyptic survival tale.
SPEAKER 04 :
Do you need to see the first one to see the second one?
SPEAKER 14 :
No. No, I think it helps. I do think it helps. And by the way, the first one’s a better movie, so rent it.
SPEAKER 04 :
So rent it and then go watch this.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, see that first. And then go see this one. You’re probably going to have a better time. But is this a great movie? No. It’s a January sequel.
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SPEAKER 09 :
Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 14 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Dead vs. Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate and John. Are you ready for a third movie?
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. All right, John. Let’s do it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, here we go. A rabid monkey. That’s right. A rabid monkey goes on a killing spree in Primate.
SPEAKER 13 :
There’s something wrong with Ben.
SPEAKER 12 :
Lucy’s mom was trying to get humans and chimps to communicate. He got really smart really fast.
SPEAKER 1 :
Lucy, bad.
SPEAKER 08 :
Why is Ben doing this? It’s not Ben anymore.
SPEAKER 03 :
911, what’s your emergency? He found me!
SPEAKER 07 :
Who the hell has a pet chimp? Hey, buddy. Hey, buddy. Hey, buddy.
SPEAKER 14 :
All right, John. This is a full-on animal hunting people film like Crawl or Jurassic Park.
SPEAKER 04 :
Only with a monkey.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
I’m telling you what, this is serious stuff. Who are the beautiful people running from horror? Well, the star is Lucy, played by Johnny Sequoia. That’s her name. Johnny. She’s a girl home from college with her friends Kate and Hannah, played by Victoria Wyant and… Jessica Alexander, along with Lucy’s younger sister, Erin, played by Gia Hunter. These are the hotties for the hunt. That’s why I give their names, because these will be young hottie actresses coming along. Lucy’s dad, Adam, played by Tony Kautzer, who I’ve seen in some stuff. He’s a wealthy author and he’s also deaf. Well, naturally, there are some hunky guys. Nick, Drew, do we really care? I mean, really.
SPEAKER 03 :
No.
SPEAKER 14 :
Honestly, the names don’t matter, but the monkey named Ben does. Ben has been a family member for several years, but here we see the danger in having an extremely strong animal in your family.
SPEAKER 04 :
A primate.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes. What happens if, say, a rabbit animal bites your monkey? That would be bad. Okay. This isn’t a human, and it will quickly go insane and start killing. Oh, I should probably tell you this. They’re in Hawaii.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
So you’re in this beautiful setting. And nobody expected it because there is no rabies in Hawaii. The problem is it comes in a mongoose. Oh. Right? When you’re trafficking moving animals. And there you go. All right. All right. Well, let’s just say many parts of bodies will be ripped off. And that Ben, he doesn’t play nice with hotties. Okay? They’re all just meat and bones in skimpy outfits to Ben. Okay. So on this night of coming home and reuniting with family, Lucy and friends will be nice to Ben, only to have Ben savagely tear them apart and hunt them like prey. This isn’t much different, John, from Alien or Jaws or any other monster film, but Primate does remind us just how strong and quick these monkeys are. I mean, John, they’re pure muscle. They’re teeth. They’re claws. They’re terrifying, and we try to make them cute pets. Whatever happens if one goes crazy? It’s bad. I would never have one of these as a pet. That’s like having a pet shark. Well, it’s grown used to us. Sure it has. Don’t get blood in the water. This thing is terrifying. Now, who will survive? Will anyone? Is there any way to stop a rabid beast that is stronger, faster, and more brutal than anyone in the film? We’ll see in Primate. What do you think?
SPEAKER 04 :
How big is the monkey?
SPEAKER 14 :
Pretty big.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. So he’s not like a chimp. It’s a bigger monkey.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, he is.
SPEAKER 04 :
Like an ape? So he’s an ape or is it a monkey?
SPEAKER 14 :
Not a full ape, no, and not an orangutan. He is smaller than me and you a little.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
A little smaller. He’s smaller than us, but wow, powerful, strong.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah, they are.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Amazing.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, what works in primate? Well, there’s clever irony in the star girl being named Lucy, the most famous ape human, Australopithecus.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right, right.
SPEAKER 14 :
Sorry, I’m a nerd. Australopithecus from Africa.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, you’re right.
SPEAKER 14 :
There you go. The kills are plenty shocking for gore fans. I mean, plenty shocking. We also have a good pace with quick buildup to kills and lots of tense, terrified moments. Good directing there. Pure fear and horror. All the girls, they seem to have good futures. They’re bombshells who can act at least well enough to bring the terror in a creature kill feature. Their fear is very realistic in this thing. And it’s brutal. My goodness. There are some good tense moments with the deaf father. He doesn’t know what’s happening, John, even as there is screaming and a monster approaching, and he has no idea.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. He can’t tell.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. So very terrifying. What happens is he’s actually away for quite a while because he’s at a book signing. Then he hears things he’s not hearing back from his daughter, so he goes home, and he has no idea that you’ve got dismembered bodies and things all over the place. Right. And screaming in the next room, and he can’t hear it because he’s walking through. And they do it really interestingly. They show her screaming, and they show him walking, but there’s no noise. So they give you his perspective on what he’s hearing. Very well done. Okay, what doesn’t work in Primate? It’s too silly at times. Too many stupid, young, beautiful people doing too many stupid things, especially the guys.
SPEAKER 04 :
Running into the shed of chainsaws?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, really. I mean, too predictable. This one wanders into this. This one walks into that. They’re just stupid fodder. They’re there to be demolished. And boy, in some brutal ways. As such, these characters just aren’t interesting at all. And this was my big problem, John. They’re cardboard cutouts of all the victims of every teen horror flick. There’s no Sidney from Scream or Ripley from Aliens or Jamie Lee Curtis from Halloween. It’s like shredding. It came to me like shredding a girly calendar. Remember those old calendars that guys used to put up with all the pretty girls on, right? It’s like just having some animal shred that.
SPEAKER 04 :
It just doesn’t matter at the end of the day.
SPEAKER 14 :
No, it doesn’t matter. More brutal than truly entertaining, almost like Terrifier. This film seems to be more of a survival test for viewers than great entertainment at times. The script is barely adequate. I got to warn you also, there’s one scene that’s particularly brutal with a girl basically being torn apart. Two pieces with teeth and everything.
SPEAKER 04 :
No thanks.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, and it’s in a vehicle, and it’s just a horrifying thing. Do you remember in the first Jurassic Park where the dinosaur goes in the vehicle with him, and you see the shaking vehicle, and he’s being torn and ripped to shreds? Okay, imagine if you showed it. Oh, yuck.
SPEAKER 04 :
No thanks.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right, exactly.
SPEAKER 04 :
No thanks.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. You know, I always pick on you and say that you don’t like the horror movies. John, I don’t like horror movies sometimes either. I’ve gotten hardened to them, but there are moments where this is just tough to watch.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I wouldn’t watch that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. I’d have to close my eyes. I can understand a lot of people right now are listening saying, no way I’m going to watch that. And I understand. I get it. I do. There are more brutal moments. kill features that I’ve seen definitely but whoa this is up there wow so you think they did that for the shock factor shock value They did. And here is my opinion. They didn’t have to. They had a good movie, John. They had a good movie because they had a good director who knew how to keep the pace going, who knew how to do the build-up attention, not too long, not too short, and bring the kill and do it right. And even though you’ve got not very good writing, the writing wasn’t that good, the directing was excellent.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, good. Does that make sense? Yes, it does.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, Rotten Tomatoes gave this 79%. I’m going to go with that. I’m going to go quality three and a half stars. And I believe that there are plenty of people who are going to look at this and say, I was terrified. This is a four star. Because it really was. They spent a lot of the time in the swimming pool. And because the chimp can’t swim. They can’t swim. And this is like the only safe place. But what are they going to do? And he is just, I mean… He has gone absolutely insane. He was a wonderful monkey. He got rabies. Okay, now he’s insane, and he is a killing machine. And I mean, just absolutely enraged. Yeah, and… It’s really something.
SPEAKER 04 :
It’s like Cujo.
SPEAKER 14 :
It is. Only in an ape. And this is more brutal.
SPEAKER 04 :
Or in a monkey.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, a lot more brutal than Cujo, obviously.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
So there you go. Quality, I’m going to go three and a half stars.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
This is a well, there will be people who see it as a four.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. Definitely.
SPEAKER 14 :
Because this is one of the scarier kill movies I’ve seen in a long time. Political, two. Moral, religious, three. Obviously. For the movie. In other words.
SPEAKER 04 :
Why two on the political?
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, I forget. Just some of the kids were a little… Maybe I’m wrong. I’m trying to remember. Were they woke or were they… Now you’re seeing the effects of me doing three movies in one night.
SPEAKER 04 :
I’m just curious.
SPEAKER 14 :
They tend to blend together.
SPEAKER 04 :
Did they say something politically wrong or…
SPEAKER 14 :
No, I’m not remembering. Put it to three. Let’s keep it safe here.
SPEAKER 04 :
You sure?
SPEAKER 14 :
Political three. Yeah, because I can’t remember.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, if you can’t remember, then it couldn’t have been that bad.
SPEAKER 14 :
No, it couldn’t have been that bad. These were very, very, very scary things.
SPEAKER 04 :
So it wasn’t really like they were woke and it was the Republicans’ fault that the monkey’s loose and all of that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, yeah, this was all Trump. And the monkey had Trump’s hair.
SPEAKER 04 :
He had a MAGA hat on.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, and a MAGA hat. He had Trump hair and a MAGA hat. He had orange hair and a MAGA hat. And an ice vest.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, gotcha.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, exactly. And the monkey’s coming at you. And that’s what’s really terrifying, was the political thing, because I’m like, oh my gosh, they’re coming for me.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, just check it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, not the scary monkey itself. No, I… I’m sorry.
SPEAKER 04 :
If you can’t remember, then there’s not much there, Andy, because I know you.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Because if there was something major there, you’d remember.
SPEAKER 14 :
I think if there was something major, I probably would. So we’ll go three. More religious three for the movie. And here’s what I mean. While you have a bunch, you’ve got four young bombshells, obviously, and yes, they’re in the pool and stuff. They’re not in the skimpy bikini. It wasn’t a skin fest at all.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
Good.
SPEAKER 14 :
Which kind of surprised me, by the way. I would think that they would do that just because that’s what Hollywood does, but they didn’t. So it really wasn’t that bad. Made it more realistic, actually. Yeah, for a movie like this. I mean, obviously, is there some language? Well, wouldn’t you? Obviously, you’re running for your life. It was just very real in that way. I’ll get back to one last thing, and I’ll let it go.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, you’re fine. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 14 :
The most impressive thing about Primate, folks, is the directing. So many of these horror movies are just not very well directed. They drag at all the wrong places. They rush or slow down the kills too much. They don’t build the tension right. All they’re trying to do is show a bunch of carnage because they’re not very good at making a movie.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
This director is good at making a movie.
SPEAKER 04 :
Good to know.
SPEAKER 14 :
There you go. So do I recommend going to Prime 8? If you like a scary movie, absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
Just close your eyes in the one spot.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, it’s going to be a little rough. It’s going to be a little rough.
SPEAKER 04 :
I couldn’t do that. Count me out. I could watch the movie, but I probably can’t watch it. Well, I know I can’t watch that part.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, John, I’ll be honest. There are times like that I’m kind of looking away.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I can’t do that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Where’s my popcorn? Oh, good.
SPEAKER 04 :
It’s over there.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s handy.
SPEAKER 04 :
Good.
SPEAKER 14 :
I’ll bury my face in that. What’s that on the bottom of the popcorn? Exactly.
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SPEAKER 13 :
Live and local, back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 04 :
And we are back, finishing out this first hour. Got another full hour coming your way, of course, on this Friday edition, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush. And we appreciate you all listening. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 14 :
I just want to ask you something. Sorry you get political.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
What are you thinking about what’s going down in Minneapolis with the shooting? With all the recent footage that’s come out, it just seems to me pretty obvious she was a domestic terrorist who got killed.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, and I was talking about this during Ready Radio a little bit, not politically speaking, but just what do you do in those sorts of situations and how would you maybe avoid those and so on and so forth. Anyways, at the end of the day, what I said was, the more video evidence, which, man, there’s more and more coming out all the time. I watched one video today. The worse she looks. Oh, absolutely, Andy. You just look at this, basically this antagonistic evil, I don’t know how else to say it, antagonistic evil human being that is in a place that she shouldn’t be in the first place. There’s no reason for her to be there. She’s literally interfering with an operation and she does not need to be there whatsoever. And at the end of the day, you know, it’s the old F.A.F.O. I mean, she’s dinking around with stuff and she found out the consequences.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. There’s a popular sort of kind of moderate YouTuber named Tim Pool. Have you heard?
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah. I know Tim. Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. And I’m not.
SPEAKER 04 :
And Tim and Tim leans left.
SPEAKER 14 :
He does. I’m not a fan of Tim Poole. No, I’m not either. Tim Poole doesn’t like Israel.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, he leans left. That’s exactly right. Right, okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
Although even Tim Poole is torn into Tucker and Candace. They’re too far for him. But anyway, setting that aside, he… Once he wanted her to be innocent, I used to be guilty and he admitted it. He said that’s what I he really felt that that’s what he was going to see. And that’s the way it was going to be. And even after reviewing all the tape, he said he still doesn’t think the guy should have shot her, which I think he is totally wrong.
SPEAKER 04 :
He’s not in that position. So you’re not there to him.
SPEAKER 14 :
No, that split second that law enforcement endures is a split second you and I will never see, John. They are in a literal split second. If he hesitates for one split second, he will literally be dead, driven over by a 3,000-pound car. However, Poole looked at it, and he at first thought that the ice was in the wrong. He looked at it again. He says, no, not only were they in the right, she targeted him.
SPEAKER 04 :
She wanted to kill this guy. Look at where the wheels were turned.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. And he was the first one to really break that. He said, look, he wasn’t in front of her car at first. She backs up with the wheels going one way, turns them the other way to turn right into him, and then floors it.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 14 :
She was a murderer. This was attempted vehicular homicide.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s right. The other thing that the news media has done a great job of, give them credit, I guess, where credit’s due, they’re false in what they’re doing, but they’re showing a picture of her probably a decade ago where she’s this kind of good-looking gal and nice hair and all of that, and that’s not what she looks like. It’s not even close to that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Now she’s an angry, butch-cut lesbian.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, very well said, Andy.
SPEAKER 14 :
I’m not beating up on lesbians. I’m saying that is what she looks like now.
SPEAKER 04 :
And they didn’t give that image of her at all throughout any of this.
SPEAKER 14 :
No.
SPEAKER 04 :
They’re giving the old image, which is not her any longer.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. By all appearances, what I saw, this was, and I do want to wait until all the evidence totally is taken through court. But from what I saw, she simply seemed to be an enraged activist domestic terrorist of the left. There is no way to look at what happened and not blame the likes of Tim Walz and all the other Democrat politicians. How can you not look at them and say, yeah, she’s to blame ultimately for what she did. But you set this up. You’ve been calling for these people to get out there, get in the way of ICE and put themselves in danger exactly like this.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, no, they’re the antagonistic end of it, Andy, that are encouraging others to do these things. The left has been doing this now, by the way, for quite some time, all the way back into Trump’s first term. They just continue to perpetuate this over and over and over again. And, yeah, I said this yesterday on the program, and I mean this sincerely. The blood… Of all of this. So, you know, her blood basically should be on Tim Walz’s hands. He’s the one through his leadership. Everything rises and falls on leadership. You know how the saying goes. At the end of the day, he’s at the top of the food chain leadership wise in Minnesota. This is on him.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. And it’s also on the mayor. Absolutely. And it’s also on the entire Democratic Party of Minnesota. And it’s also on the Democratic Party nationwide. They have made this happen. They have turned these people into animals.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, bottom line, there was no reason for her to be there.
SPEAKER 14 :
No.
SPEAKER 04 :
She was there for one reason, one reason only. That was to interfere with an ICE operation. Yep. She had been antagonistic earlier in the day, had already been doing some things. So that’s the other thing nobody’s talking about in the press. But she had already been doing some things earlier in the day along these same lines. And she showed up again, meaning… These individuals probably had already seen her once. We don’t know exactly what she did earlier in the day. I’m sure that will also come out as time goes by, Andy. And I’m guessing that as these things continue to get released, she’s going to be looked at more, you know, it’s going to be looking more bad for her, I should say, on an ongoing basis. It’s not going to look good for her is what I’m saying.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, and just as importantly, more importantly, because she’s no longer here, they are. I think that this is going to look worse and worse and worse for the Democrats who have been defending her, for the Democrats who have been trying to pin this on the ICE agent. They’re going to look worse and worse the more that comes up. They can only hide the truth so long.
SPEAKER 04 :
At this point, they would all be better off to just hope the story goes away, be quiet, don’t linger on it, and just be done because it’s not boding well for them at all. And it’s making them look worse and worse every single day that goes by. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
So that’s my advice to them is, you know what? At this point, you’re not ahead. So it’s not that old even quit while you’re ahead. You’re not ahead at all. So just stop because you’re just digging yourself a deeper hole.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s the old quit while you’re behind.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s exactly right. So another flower coming your way. Don’t go anywhere. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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