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"Now comes the time when we resolve. Right-thinking Christians and Americans, determined to live life better, and in the new year 2025, be better soldiers of the cross and better citizens of the greatest nation in the history of mankind."
"So, on to DIFFERENT AND BETTER 2025."
"LIFE. Only one life and that will soon be past. Treasure every moment. Our Lord Jesus Christ came to bring us life more abundantly. Live 2025 in an abundant life. Live as HE said joyfully, live as HE would have you live, that your JOY might be full. Life is good no matter. ENJOY EVERY MOMENT."
"WORRY. Nothing is more negative. Worry is wrong, perhaps rising to the level of sin. Give no thought at all, my fellow Christians, to the TOMORROW. It is a day with its own good and evil and to worry about a day not yet come ruins this day, the day which the Lord has made.
THE FIGHT OF FAITH. Stand up for your faith. Stand tall in the Lord. Never compromise your faith in any way by thought, word, or deed. NEVER!"
"RESIST EVIL. Here comes evil 2025, the devil at work, more aggressive than ever. Resist evil and it will go away, the devil will flee. Resist it with all your Christian might, armor, and strength. Do what is right, and fight back. Never give up. NEVER! In the words of the Apostle Paul:
PRESS ON FOR THE PRIZE OF THE HIGH CALLING OF GOD IN CHRIST JESUS."
"PRESS ON!"
"SALT AND LIGHT. Let you light, my fellow Christians, so shine before all mankind, that all may see your good works, know what you believe, and glorify not you, but:"
"HIM."
"Whether word or deed, a deed seems to be more lasting and effective than a word in so many ways. Flavor this world with Christian love and forgiveness (salt) and let your light so shine before men. Let it shine brighter than ever."
"EDUCATE. Now comes a radical, woke, progressive agenda seeking to transform, really destroy so much of America, a culture, system, and group of priorities which is thoroughly and completely:
ANTI-AMERICAN."
"It is wrong. Say so and stand up.
YOU. Your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit. Care for it, nurture it, preserve it. Live healthy as God would intend and respectfully in the flesh that God has given you.
PRAYER. Pray without ceasing. Be guided by the Holy Spirit. Pray always, everywhere. Live in a prayerful environment, where the Holy Spirit rules and you are in constant communication, prayerful communication with your Lord Jesus Christ. Prayer works wonders, whether it comes from the closet, all alone, even with groanings which are interpreted by the Holy Spirit, or in mass assemblies. God hears and answers HIS
WAY, at His time, and always for your good."
"THANKS. In all things give thanks. ALL THINGS. There is no such thing as luck, but only the will of God at work, whether we are aware of that or not. All things happen as HE would will and no matter what they are, good or bad in our opinion, they are His will at work, and in all such things we should be:
THANKFUL."
"And especially, we should be thankful for His: UNSPEAKABLE GIFT,"
"A gift that cannot be adequately described in words: OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST.
LOVE. No matter how hateful the world is, no matter how alone you may feel or be, the love of our Lord is with you. Christ, closer than a friend or brother, is with you, by your side, even if no one else is, as our Lord was with the Apostle Paul in his final days, all alone in a dungeon. Christ died for you and there is no greater love than that of a man who lays down his life for a friend:
YOU AND ME.
2025 is the year which the Lord has made. Let us be glad and rejoice therein. Let us resolve to live this great year joyfully, and more productively, and work in his behalf for the night is coming when no man or woman can work.
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may you and yours have a year with the full blessing of our Lord Jesus Christ."
This week, immerse yourself in a rollercoaster of tales ranging from charismatic Florida homes to the touching stories of hope provided by Preborn Ministries. As we dissect eccentric stories from the Sunshine State, find out how a neighborhood contest can escalate into a yard famous for its movie-inspired decorations. We also discuss the potential hazards of negligent airline handling, offering listeners a glimpse into real-life mishaps that affect unsuspecting travelers. The discourse takes a refreshing turn towards societal health issues, specifically focusing on the debates surrounding fat positivity and weight stigma. Challenging societal norms, we ponder over the balance between personal rights and public responsibility, dissecting the implications of healthcare policies. To round off, prepare for an adventurous ride through the fields of innovation with a light-hearted look at China's 'Murder Ball.'
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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So when I first read that this Florida man had decorated his yard with the lamp from A Christmas Story, I thought, well, how big could it be? You'd be surprised. JP McCallick's suburban Jacksonville, Florida home. It's 20 feet tall. And it even includes a replica of Ralphie hugging the lamp wearing his pink bunny suit. Is it an inflatable? Because it really doesn't even look like it's an inflatable. But he goes, I like his response. He goes, quote, everyone's decorating their houses. And I thought it'd be fun to have like a neighborhood competition. And so he just decided to put that up. He also, I mean, it's crazy. He does not have what I would call traditional decorations. But that's funny. So he's got the giant leg lamp in his yard. I kind of like that, though. I've been wanting to get a giant nativity lamp. and put in my yard, but I want a giant nativity, like a huge one. Some people in my household don't share my vision. I mean, no, but you know, if it's awkward, you know, I want like resin, right? We got to talk. We got to save this for later. Cause I got more, hang on. I got more to get into. Um, Let's see. Oh, my gosh. Listen to this. A Florida man says Delta Airlines burned his golf bag and clubs worth nearly $4,000. Oh, and it looks real bad, too. I'm looking at the destruction of it. He said that his golf bag was burned and everything was charred. I don't even know how you burn because golf clubs are what are they? Metal? Aluminum? Yeah. He was this is in October. He was on a flight from Atlanta. He was waiting for his luggage at the Southwest Florida International Airport. And then he said when he saw it come around again, he goes, wait, oh, my gosh, those are our those are my clubs. The freight guy said that they dragged it and it wore through the protective covering, started to spark, and then it caught everything on fire. So he's filed a claim with Delta. Delta initially denied the claim. And finally, they said that they're going to pay for it. But it was like for, I mean, and it looks bad. How do you drag them and then spark? That's just negligence. That's just laziness and negligence. I don't know how else you attribute that. Look, I just want to show you the photo. Look at that. That's crazy. That's what they look like. That's insane. Oh, my gosh. Let's see. Last but not least, a half-naked Florida man, I may have to show this tomorrow, high on meth, broke into a home, only to steal the resident's carpet cleaner. Imagine a young woman facing an unplanned pregnancy, feeling alone and unsure of what to do, and she's searching for hope. And that's where Preborn Ministries comes in. You can make a difference for just $28. Your generosity can be the key to a mother choosing life for her baby. And with your gift, you will receive the story of a mom who chose life as well as the ultrasound image of her precious baby. And like the story of Kelsey who found Preborn and after hearing her baby's heartbeat, she chose life. Consider making a larger, life-changing donation of $5,000, $10,000, or $15,000. Maximize your gift that can help women in unplanned pregnancies receive ultrasounds and even help place an ultrasound machine in a women's center. Donate for the gift of life. Just dial pound 250 and say the keyword baby. That's pound or hashtag 250 baby. Or visit preborn.com slash Dana to donate online. Every contribution counts. So again, that's pound 250, say the word baby, or donate securely at preborn.com slash Dana. San Francisco has a new government position. Did you hear about this? No. Yeah. It is a consultant. I'm not going to play this whole video because it's stupid. Well, maybe I will, actually. This person is supposed to be the, checks notes, weight stigma czar. What? Now, Cain, I want you to tell me if the person whose image I just placed in Slack is qualified to be the, checks notes, weight stigma czar.
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Well, she'd... No. I almost went on a tangent there, but no. Juan's going to be putting up a quick little video of her in action.
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What is weight neutrality?
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I think that's in space, right? You're weightless.
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We'll play this when he gets it. It's that ridiculous. She's working with a team at the San Francisco Department of Public Health, it says here, as a consultant on weight stigma and weight neutrality. What is weight neutrality? What is that? Is that a thing?
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When someone's neutral... Does it have a flag? I guess if you're just neutral about the idea of weight or extra weight, I... Your guess is as good as mine, but Juan's ready if you're ready.
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Oh, please. Let's hear this. I'm sorry.
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Hi, my name is Virgie Tovar, and I'm the author of You Have the Right to Remain Fat, as well as a few other books on fat positivity and body acceptance. When I think about what people might be surprised by or what you wouldn't think of when you think of eating disorders, I immediately think of being a kid. I was a kid in a larger body, a teen in a larger body, and also an adult in a larger body. And the message I always got from my doctor was, shrink your body by any means necessary. And it really felt like there was a sense of a don't ask, don't tell. So because I truly, truly, truly believed. And this is where I think the surprise comes in. I really believed that this was about my health. I really believe that my doctor was right, because why would I believe anything?
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That's real.
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That's real. Your doctor was right. And let's not do fat positivity. I don't believe in fat shaming people unless, you know, the calls for it. But people pointing out that your obesity is a comorbidity is a health issue. That's not people trying to be mean. And I think people need to stop being victims. Stop being a victim. I mean, come on. Seriously. It's... I...
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really don't understand this like idea what was this a backlash to the heroin chic of the 90s is that what we're living with still what i don't get is imagine any other health concern you know whether it's diabetes or whether it's just anything health-wise would you encourage people to continue behavior that would exasperate or make that health problem worse would you do that would you affirm them Knowing that it would make their problem worse?
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Why would you do that? When she says, you know, I have a right to, you know, you have a right to be fat or whatever. You don't. And here's why. After, you don't. Absolutely, you blink and do not. And here's why. Absolutely. After Obamacare passed and we all had to pay higher insurance premiums to pay for people who didn't or couldn't want to pay, oh, I get to have a say in all of that. So you don't get any rights because you invited my tax dollars in. And where my tax dollars go, I follow with a boot in the door. That's what happens. No, I get to be involved in it. Yeah, you don't.
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My body, my choice.
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No, it's not my choice to pay your damn bills, so it's not your body to make a choice of. No. If my money goes to it, I'm the boss of you. I will go and knock that zinger right the hell out your hand, and I'll put a carrot in its place, okay? Oh, you want to have a little Debbie's fudge round? Eat some cucumber or broccoli. Stop it. I have a right too. I have a right to go where my tax dollars go. And if you're sucking up more of my tax dollars because you can't get a handle on your weight, then that's a problem for me. I shouldn't have to subsidize that. No one thought of that when they were pushing for the expansion of Obamacare and jacking up everybody's premiums so that we would have to pay for everyone else's care. So no. And everyone's like, oh, Dana. Look, I work really hard. To stay in shape and I eat healthy and I do intermittent fasting. I do all of that stuff. I've always worked out. I've always been athletic. I've always maintained. And it's not because a privilege just decided to, you know, fairy godmother apparated out of the ether and was like, I'm going to make you like this forever. It's you actually it's an effort. And I don't want to hear about anyone else's problems or excuses. I don't care. Make the effort. And don't expect me to pay your medical bills because that's the situation we're all in. And as a result, no one can say that they have a right to be this or that. Since you wanted, you asked for this. We warned you. Don't say that we didn't warn you because we did. But back to my first question. What the hell is weight neutrality? What is that? Like I'm trying to imagine. So, you know, we have a lot of truckers that listen. God love them. Is that like when do they do that for the weight on your truck? You know, like if you go in and you're a weigh station and they're like, oh, you're weight neutral to a truck and they're low. Do they say that?
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No.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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I'm pretty positive. No.
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I'm just fascinated by I've never I'm today years old. I've never heard of that phrase. The whole weight neutrality thing. Right now, I will say this. I do think that some chicks can go way too far the other way. Like I always bring up Madonna as an example. She at some point as you age, my grandmother always said at one point in her life, a woman has to choose between her face or her body. Now, I've already told you guys, maybe I haven't been public about it, what my goal is. Because everyone always thinks I've never had plastic surgery or anything like that for the love. But I do have a plan to combat wrinkles when it starts setting in. I mean, I got a little bit here and there. But I got a plan. You want to know my plan? I'm going to get fat. It's a natural filler. I'm just going to... Because I choose face. That's it. I choose face. Because you can't hide ugly. That's why.
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Do you have the right to be fat then at that point?
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Well, I'm going to do it in a healthy way. I'm not going to be morbidly obese. That's totally my plan. My grandmother was like, and she said the age is different. What she told me was this. She was like, at some point in her life, a woman has to choose between face or body. And I'm like, well, she's like, you won't know until you get there. And then she looked at me and she was like, I chose face. She was like, that's why. She was like very proud. She's like, that's why I chose face. That's why I don't have hardly no wrinkles. That's what she would say. And I get it. So that's my joke. That's my I'm kind of joking, but not really. That's my whole goal. But not like morbidly obese. Just, you know. I'm just saying. all natural. But there's a difference. You don't want to be visceral and tawny like Madonna, right? I don't want to see your ligaments and stuff. A woman shouldn't look like beef jerky. You know what I mean? You're supposed to be soft. Don't be brainwashed by these fourth-wave fembots into thinking that you can't have any fat on your body. Women need it. And especially as you get older, you need that extra especially if you get older because you know it helps you when you're an older age so anyway i still don't understand what weight neutral is i'm gonna hear from every trucker who listens to us i am gonna get treaties on it that's what's gonna happen like big essays on it i can't wait all right we got we we got a lot more to come as uh we roll towards where are we at oh my gosh are we already in headlines is this already the third hour I feel like Christmas is coming up too fast. Anybody else think that? I feel like that too. Our partners that help bring you the program, it's our friends over at Caltech, the P15. It stands for 15 pews. It's the lightest, thinnest, most easily concealable 9mm double stack mag that's on the market. And there's nothing else that comes close. They have two versions, metal and polymer. Metal frame version has the really gorgeous wood panel. It has these wood grain panels that I just think give it a total... I was actually having a debate with a friend about what genre of James Bond. I say the Sean Connery, like 60s, 70s, sort of 70s, you know, maybe James Bond. It's a great looking gun. The polymer version, gator grip texture. It comes with two standard capacity magazines. One's a 15 round minimal pinky extension. The other is a flush fit double stack mag that holds 12 rounds as well. Tritium fiber optic front sight, fiber optic front sight. You got a fully adjustable fiber optic two dot rear. A lifetime warranty, super compact, great for concealed carry self-defense, whether you're a newbie or an old pro at it. It's more dependable, yet game-changing innovation from the people who literally created the micro-compact pistol category. Innovation Performance Kel-Tec. Learn more at Kel-TecWeapons.com. That's K-E-L-T-E-C-Weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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This is actually crazy. The shocking toll of getting six hours of sleep per night has been revealed in horrifying images. It's a British bedding and mattress company, and they illustrate what people might look like in 25 years if they regularly don't get enough sleep. And they are nasty looking. I mean, they look like cave dwellers. Let's be real. Like, they look like legit cave dwellers with us. Their skin is saggy. They're all droopy. Their hair is, like, weird. It's just... They look like golems from Lord of the Rings. It's one of the... Juan's going to show you. I got to wait for you to see this chick. This is apparently... Now, she looks like she's on meth, too. Yes. But they said that's what you look like if you're not going to get six hours of sleep a night. Good Lord. Good heavens. Why is she punched over like that? Weird. Weird. So the, let's see, the kit sold, the gyro kit sold at Sam's Club is, they have possibly tainted cucumbers. Why don't you, why do you have to get a kit? But it's called the Beef and Lamb Utero Sandwich Express Meal Kit. The gyro sandwiches. They said that's, um. The cucumbers are tainted, basically. They're nasty. Yeah, and that's tzatziki sauce. I love tzatziki sauce, though. Let's see. This. Oh, Daniel Penny was invited to be J.D. Vance's guest at the Army-Navy game this weekend. Good for him. Good for him. The intermittent fasting. I disagree with us. The intermittent fasting that millions of people do, because I do intermittent fasting. They said that it is driving hair loss. And they said that they have researchers, but it's from a university in China. But they say that the diet starves the cells of energy that they need to encourage healthy hair growth. Okay, that's a lie because I do intermittent fasting and I have more hair than known on earth. I have an insane amount of hair. When I cut my hair, everyone's like, oh, you removed your extensions. I legit did not have to have any. I've never had them. I just have that much hair and I've done intermittent fasting for a couple of years now, so... I don't believe that. I don't think that's true. Jewelry thieves were arrested after an SUV crash, after they crashed their SUV, and they tried to escape on a rowboat. Golly, this was in Port Gamble. They tried to get away on a little bitty dinky rowboat. Nope, it didn't work. They stole $11,000 in jewelry. They were totally caught. It did not work. And it looked lame. And at one point, it looked like the boat was taking on water. I mean, they didn't get very far at all whatsoever. I mean, they're not the brightest people, you know. Let's see. Oh, the world's most expensive Christmas tree was unveiled in Germany. And it's 10 foot of solid gold. And it's worth about $5 million. And it's ugly as all get out. It's ugly. It's made of gold coins. It's 10 feet tall. It's worth $4 million. And it's literally all Vienna Philharmonic coins, 2,024 of them. And it's a 24-carat gold coin that sits right at the top of the giant pyramid. It's not a tree. Stop it. It's a giant pyramid. So, I don't know. They wanted to because they could, I guess. You know what we're all going to be into is we're all going to be turned into... We're all going to be chased down by giant murder balls. That's what's going to happen. Giant murder balls are going to chase us all down. China unveiled an all-terrain spherical robocop. To chase down, bludgeon and catch criminals using net launching cannons. Net launching cannons. This sounds like hysterical. Huh? Yeah, I don't know how. But they and they and listen to this. The bot beast. Apparently they say they can not only stop crime, but they can somehow detect it, too. I'm not afraid of this. Because you know what can stop this, right?
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45.
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Just saying. I'm not afraid of this thing. But they said that they're relatively unbreakable. They call it the cop ball. It's a murder ball. They have net guns, tear gas sprayers, grenades, loudspeakers. You know what I'm really what I'm looking at? Is I'm looking at a delivery service for free grenades and tear gas and sprayers. That's what I'm looking at. You could catch one of these things and take it apart, couldn't you? I mean, theoretically. And we're talking about China, so I don't have to worry about being nice about it. I don't have to worry about it. It's a giant murder ball. Now, some people thought it was a marketing stunt, but apparently they're really actually trying to implement this thing. They wanted to replace humans in dangerous instances. It weighs four tons. Well, it said it can withstand a whopping four tons of impact. and it can go a whole 22 miles per hour. Great job, China, with your dumb murder ball. We found a way to do more of the communism with our murder ball. That's what this is. We're going to spread the sickling hammer with our murder ball. I just want to know, where does it put the grenades in that? And does someone, I guess, what if it gets hit with an EMP? I still say it's a thing of, it's a grenade delivery unit. That's what it is. Gives you some free grenades and stuff. They said the wheels can be locked so it can walk in a traditional way if it has to climb stairs. I mean, it's a giant ball. Roll up them. I don't know. This whole thing. They said it's unstoppable even in extreme weather. And they have, they've been releasing videos showing it work. I don't know. I still think the robot thing is the creepiest. The one that the Tesla bought, that's the creepiest. But they've been rolling them out. It's only in a couple of areas, but they have these giant murder balls out there. The Chinese murder balls. If you saw one of these, well, first off, Cain, say you haven't committed a crime, but still, if you saw one of these coming at you, what would your response be? get out of the way the thing looks like it could run over me i mean it only goes 22 miles per hour yeah but i can only run like maybe eight or ten yeah but i feel like this is why everybody needs a scooter or something or like the the ability to convert your shoes into whatever works with the what are what are those what are the things with the stick
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The Google gadget one?
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No, I have one. I have a mini version of one and I can't think of what the name of it is. Yes, like a Segway. Like your shoes can... I just feel like I could get away from it. I'd climb something or I'd shoot it. I don't know. I could get away from it.
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Yeah, you could definitely shoot it.
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And then I'd take all the... I would literally strip it for parts.
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I want to see it in action actually doing what it's supposed to do. Like walking with cops down the road, it's not an impressive display of what this thing can do. I want to see it launch one of those, what did they say it had? One of those net things?
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Tear gas. I'm looking at the list. It can disperse tear gas, built-in net gun.
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Net gun. Stun gun. Imagine shooting the net gun at somebody and taking down this. I want to see that. That's what I want to see from this Chinese commie ball. Murder ball. Murder commie ball. It's a spherical robocop. Commie murder ball.
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That sounds almost like a band name I want. Commie murder ball. The robot is called Clone Alpha. It's described as a musculoskeletal android robot. That's the clone robot that they have, the Erie humanoid bot. This was just a giant ball of death in a Benny Hill kind of way. It does look like a Benny Hill cop. I can't make fun of this enough. From China.
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In this episode, we delve into the controversial firearm regulations in Canada. The recent ban of over 300 assault-style firearms and the subsequent talks to donate these to Ukraine have sparked a heated debate. We explore the implications of these decisions and discuss the rapidly changing landscape of gun laws in Canada. With insights from various reports, we analyze how these actions affect the Canadian public and reflect on the government's stance on tackling crime. Additionally, the episode highlights the ongoing issue of gang violence across Canadian cities. Despite stringent gun regulations, cities like Toronto and Vancouver are seeing record-high gang activity. We question the effectiveness of these regulations and contemplate the socio-political factors at play. A comprehensive look at the situation reveals the complexity of ensuring public safety amidst regulatory measures.
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Welcome back to the program, top of this hour. Dana Lash here with you. You can listen coast to coast. We're also on Channel 347, DirecTV, Chats at Rumble. We're on X, all those good places. So we, I was shocked, sort of. I saw, this is from Canada. I don't know if you saw this. This is what they kicked out last night. And I tweeted about it, for those of you who follow me on X. It was pretty wild. The Canadian government is essentially going to turn itself into an arms dealer by confiscating guns from Canadians and then sending them to Ukraine. At least that's what their public safety minister has announced. Dominic LeBlanc, Audio Soundbite 19. Listen to this.
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Today? the government is adding a further 324 unique makes and models of assault-style firearms to the list of prohibited firearms in Canada. This prohibition takes effect immediately. This means these firearms can no longer be legally used, sold or imported in Canada, and can only be transferred or transported under extremely limited circumstances. As part of that process, the government of Canada has committed to the Ukrainian government to identify whether some of these guns could be donated to support the fight for democracy in Ukraine.
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Oh, because that's what we think it is. Really? Okay. Wow. 324 different firearms. An immediate ban. And by the way, that guy looked like he was wearing rouge on his cheeks. Tell me that I'm not the only person that saw that, right? That thought it as well. So they're banning all different types of firearms and they want to, 324, and they want to donate them to Ukraine. They said they're working with the government to see how they can donate the guns. What in the world? The restrictions they said are going to be implemented immediately. This means these firearms can no longer be used. And this was after they banned 1,500 previously. 1,500 makes models of firearms. Now that number has grown to 2,000. The first ban was in May of 2020. And they said this guy, this fruitcake, says firearms designed for the battlefield plainly do not belong in our communities. I don't know. Are they sending Canadians out to war with semi-auto? This is the same stupid argument that we keep having over and over again. People who have no idea about firearms, they have no idea about what the military uses, they have no idea about any of these things, but they are taking it upon themselves to determine your rights based on their ignorance. That's a crime. It should be. And the... I mean, that's what they're calling for. They're demanding this. This is what they're... I mean, it's pretty... It's in Canada. But I love the idea that first they called it a buyback. And then now some of them are just outright saying confiscation. But they're turning themselves into arms dealers with this. I mean, that's... I mean, I know it's Canada. They've really gotten super far left. Have they not? Oh, yeah. Super far left. So they're in Montreal, by the way. They are demanding a total ban on all semi-automatic rifles totally before they roll out a buyback. And so now they have this full-on ban. Thousands of models. Apparently, they're like a couple that are allowed and that's it. And those will be banned. That's just a matter of time before the ones that are not banned already are banned. And if you have a banned model in Canada, you can't do anything with it, not even sell it to the government because they haven't rolled out their buyback system yet. Because they want a total ban before they do the buyback. That's at least officials in Montreal and elsewhere in Canada. They said that they want a complete list and they need to have everything banned before they move forward with any kind of buyback, which that's it's already a nightmare. It's already a mess. I don't know how they're, how are you going to, where are you getting the money to do any kind of buyback in the first place? Toronto, I wanted to pull this piece up. There's a piece I was reading, my friend Tom Knighton covered how the anti-gun efforts, particularly in Toronto, have backfired. Because Justin Trudeau had been bragging about his success with gun control, etc. And Toronto law enforcement are scratching their heads saying, what? What? They said that they banned handguns. They had a federal handgun freeze to address the influx of black market firearms. And officers are dealing with gang violence. Toronto's a mess. Vancouver's a mess because of it. They have tons of gang violence in British Columbia. Trudeau only looks at the firearms. He doesn't do anything about the actual gangs. So you're not really solving the problem, are you? You're just making it harder for the innocent. The idea that you're going to make laws based on criminal behavior and not based on lawful behavior is insane. You're punishing the law abiding for what criminals are doing. That's unfair. Why should your rights be forfeit because someone chooses to engage in criminality? That's like saying we're going to ban all cars because people are engaging in criminality with their vehicles. It's a stupid logic. But this is wild. So when we talk about, well, let's make Canada, let's just go ahead and annex them. I don't want to because people voted for this. Their lawmakers all want this. I don't want these people. I don't want to have a bunch of gun control people make them part of my country. Hell no. Their gun control is not working in Canada at all either, by the way. Not just in Toronto or Vancouver. I mean, really anywhere in Canada where it's been implemented. It's just been a mess. For instance, this story is CBC. They said they keep saying gun violence is on the rise. But when you read the article, it's not gun violence, which is a stupid phrase. It's increased gang activity. But they don't want to say that it's increased gang activity. They want to scare you and use those people, use criminals as a way to bully people into giving up their rights. It's a record-breaking gang violence in Toronto. I mean, gangs and drugs galore. And guess what? When you have a gang problem, Cain, what do gangs like to use in commission of felonious activity? Weapons and guns. That's right, weapons and guns. Because, you know, drug dealers and gangbangers don't just say please and thank you. Right. They don't just use please and thank you unless that's what they named their black market acquired weapons. You know, this is please this one. Thank you. Please. And thank you. So. Man, Canada's got it rough. They got it rough. And now it looks like they're going to go after absolutely everything. It is wild. We got more on this. We also have the Daniel Penny trial. The jury's deadlocked in the verdict. They told the judge they were unable to come to a decision on the charge of manslaughter. And they were waiting for instructions from the judge. The verdict, what they were being asked to determine... first count second degree manslaughter before potentially moving on to the second count, which was criminally negligent homicide. So second degree manslaughter, meaning He had him in a chokehold, wasn't aware, and just didn't know that he would kill him. And then the second one was that he knew and he was doing it anyway, not able to recognize the graveness of the situation. But I think both of these are predicated upon Jordan Neely being dead by the time that Daniel Penny let him go, and he wasn't. How are you asking Daniel Penny to be convicted on a manslaughter charge when Jordan Neely was still alive after? How are you trying to convict Daniel Penny on a manslaughter charge when Jordan Neely was on so much drugs? Who knows if he would have been alive later in the day? Man's OD'd I don't know how many times. He was in and out of the hospital because the drug use complicated his health I don't know how many times. He was violent. Who's to say that that's just asinine? And to go after somebody like Daniel Penny. What they're asking the jury to determine is whether or not anyone has the right to live their lives unassaulted, unmolested, unattacked, unthreatened. That's what they're asking. Because apparently there is a protected class in the United States that if you check so many boxes, you can do whatever you want to people. I mean, clearly, he had a warrant out for his arrest because he bashed some lady in the face. He broke an elderly woman's nose, tried to kill another woman by throwing her on the train tracks. Of course, don't forget he was on video trying to take a seven-year-old. Yeah, precious little Jordan Neely. So dangerous that even Reddit, Reddit full of conservatives and far left liberals all came together in one thread and were like, everybody be aware of this platform. There's a very dangerous guy here. It's a thread that's still up on Reddit. Tons of comments. Even before this happened, there were tons of comments on it. This guy's dangerous. Be careful. All these people were sharing their experiences of how he threatened them and all this stuff. It was only a matter of time. And As Eric Adams had said, you know, New York didn't do what New York should have done. People pay taxes. They pay taxes with the expectation. Actually, it's stolen from them. No one actually expects anything from the government. The government, by way of forcibly taking your money under penalty of threat, has culpable deniability and not being able to follow through with the forced investment of your tax dollars. So in New York. These people paid their tax money for what? The promise of police protection? The promise that violent criminals are going to be thrown in jail? The promise that the streets are going to be safer? The promise that they'll be able to ride the subway unmolested, unassaulted? Because New York failed. And not just in this case. There was another case where a guy was murdered by another Jordan Neely-like character on a subway platform. That was, what, months before Jordan Neely. New York failed taxpayers in this situation. They're not allowed to defend themselves. Hell no. Heaven forbid you have a weapon. And now you don't even have to have a weapon. Everyone's like Jordan Neely was unarmed. So was Daniel Penny. He was also unarmed. And guess who else was unarmed? The woman with the baby that Jordan Neely threatened. Guess who else was unarmed? The elderly woman who was threatened. Prosecutors are saying, well, no one was threatened specifically. I think that when you get in the face of a mother that's trying to shield her baby with her stroller and you're screaming, I'm going to kill you. I will kill you all. That sounds like a pretty damn specific threat. You tell me if you think it's a specific threat. If a known violent offender is screaming in your baby's face that they're going to murder her. Oh, they didn't say her name. Jordan Neely didn't like ask to see her Costco card and then read her name aloud to the subway platform. You morons. Always an excuse for the violent. I feel like the state hates innocent people. This is New York hates innocent people. I don't go to New York for nothing anymore. I used to have to go all the time for work and I still don't go back. I don't like to go to New York for nothing. My gosh, what happens if someone tries to would try to attack me or for me and we're trying to attack and I would defend myself. Hell, I might be thrown into the jail too. They're throwing everybody in jail in New York. You don't even have to be guilty of an offense as you saw with Trump. They'll just make it up like with Alvin Bragg. Which brings me back to my point. Stop supporting damn Republicans that are against the due process and the offenses against which I'm talking about right here. Stop supporting lawmakers that don't honor due process, regardless if they got an R after their name. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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The Michigan AG urges residents to play music outside to combat Christmas porch pirates after one person in the country illegally was arrested for stealing iPhone packages in one neighborhood. So the Michigan AG, they're saying, just try to dissuade them with Christmas lights and holiday music. So you're going to put them in a more festive mood to steal. I mean, that's what I'm hearing from you. That's so goofy. Why? Stop, people. Stop, stop. Also, let's see. A Canadian man jumped on a polar bear to defend his wife from being attacked. Brave man. They were in the far north. He leapt on the bear to protect his wife from being mauled. He suffered serious injuries but is going to recover. The couple left their house to find their dogs when a bear in the driveway of their home lunged at her. They live north of Ontario, far, far north. She slipped to the ground. The husband leapt on the animal to prevent it from attacking. It attacked him. He's got serious but non-life-threatening injuries to his arms and legs. A neighbor arrived with a gun, shot the bear several times. and succumbed to its injuries. It retreated into the woods. They're patrolling the area to make sure that there were no bears in the area. They said that when an attack occurs, it's because the bear's often hungry, young, and unwell. Or you're a snack and it's a bear. You know, there's just that, right? I mean, the hungry part, that's kind of what it is, you know. Let's see here. Men are more likely to have financial secrets than women, says a study. I think I believe that. I think maybe. I don't know what kind of financial secrets. But they said this survey only looked at 220 Americans. And they said that 77% of men have more financial secrets than compared to women, whatever that means. Stick with us. We got a lot more next with the latest with the penny case, cabinet picks, etc. Black Rifle Coffee. It's good coffee. 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So if you, gosh, where are we gonna go? Because there's, There's a lot. And a lot of it's like housekeeping kind of stuff. You know what I mean? Like a lot of it's where we got the cabinets. I want to get into the drone stuff. I also feel like it might be related to the alien stuff. Maybe I've got conspiracy theories. But I wanted to touch on real quick with this United CEO murder. They're already. And I told you yesterday. They're already using this as a way to push ghost gun bans, right? And 3D printing bans and all this stuff. So you have this guy. He's talking about this. He's pushing this on cable news. CEO murder case. Audio somebody. Four. All right. Now they're still pushing it.
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This is very real for you and me and everybody else who does anything. This person worked alone. I sincerely believe he very likely worked alone. And any crazy person who views somebody as the genesis of all their problems can go out and do this. And that's what happens when you have a country that worships violence and a country where you don't regulate guns. Right. Because if you couldn't get access to guns, this probably doesn't happen.
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And this is the same. This is one of the stupidest. First off, who is this guy? Nobody knows who this chonk is. Nobody knows. Does anybody care? No. Nobody cares. Just using him as an illustration. This is stupid. Because, first off, you don't... I think he would have done it regardless. If he was going to do something, he would have figured out a way to illegally obtain a firearm at some point. That's kind of the whole point of criminals and what they do. You know what I mean? It has nothing to do with guns. It has to do with the culture of violence in this country. Stop blaming the damn guns. All of you... idiots out there who have no idea about it. They don't even know all of the facts in this case, but they're coming out like, well, we're pretty sure it has to do with the guns. It's because of the guns. Couldn't be because of any other issues. See, if you take away the guns, all the murder goes away, said nobody ever that had more than one brain cell to rub together. All right, I want to move on. We'll come back to this later, but I'm going to get myself all worked up. A couple things still. As we wind towards Christmas, because next week is our last week, right? Yeah, next week is our last week. That's right. Okay. This McDonald's, this is such a testament to our culture right now. It's been a big year for McDonald's, right, Cain? Yeah. Because you had Trump at McD's and this guy's at McD's. So the McDonald's where police caught the guy who wants to be Joker, apparently. And think about it. It really is playing out like that. They've been flooded with negative Yelp reviews. Is it too early to start drinking, Kane? Asking for a lot of people out there who just heard this headline. They're wanting to know. The Pennsylvania McDonald's where police arrested the guy who gunned down that Brian Thompson, the CEO, they've been flooded with negative reviews on Yelp since Monday. The Altoona, Pennsylvania location, not just Yelp, but also Google. Employees are being branded, quote, rats and snitches by morons who are sympathetic. They always try to make, like they did this with the Boston Bombers, right? So they're, yeah, that's what they're doing. And that's something. Isn't it something, Kane? Yeah. It's something, all right. Uh-huh. They've been review bombing. Employees are being referred to as rats and snitches in the comments because somebody turned him in. A murderer. A murderer. Because, see, some murder's okay. I can't even begin with this. What a statement on our society. That they're getting flooded with negative reviews because somebody turned this guy in. And then we wonder why we just have such a trash society. And you wonder why stuff like this happens in the first place. I don't know what it is. Like this guy's not a folk hero. He killed somebody's dad. This is how dumb this is. He killed someone's dad. And if we're just going to assume that it has to do with anger over health care, who are the people that made the damn system? Take a bow, Democrats. I mean, hell, they bragged about it for how long after they had Obamacare passed. I will never forget Nancy Pelosi walking towards the congressional building. Walking towards the Capitol from the Hart Building. And she had this... She didn't use the underground tunnels, which they normally use. She wanted to walk out in front of all the protesters. And she had a gavel that was the size of like an Acme Wile E. Coyote gavel. Remember that? We all joked about what in the heck... She walked with the damn thing. She was trolling everybody. And they were so proud. They were bragging about this. Oh my gosh. They got Obamacare passed. All the healthcare stuff is theirs. All of the complaints about the healthcare system are because of Democrat policies. Democrats own it. They fought for it. They got it. Take a bow. That's on y'all. So I don't know. This whole back and forth with, oh, well, he's a good guy. He's a folk hero because he's angry over health care. You're angry at you. You're angry at what you created. And I just think that it's being viewed as he murked somebody who might be on the right. And so the left is excited about that. Is that me thinking too much into this, Cain? Because I feel like that's how they look at it. They look at that guy as like an avatar of the right. And so this was a long time coming. That's what it seems like with these people. It's sad. Big year for McD's though. You know what we're all going to be into is we're all going to be turned into, we're all going to be chased down by giant murder balls. That's what's going to happen. Giant murder balls are going to chase us all down. China unveiled an all-terrain spherical robocop. To chase down, bludgeon and catch criminals using net launching cannons. Net launching cannons. This sounds like hysterical. Huh? Yeah, I don't know how. But they and they and listen to this. The bot beast. Apparently they say they can not only stop crime, but they can somehow detect it, too. I'm not afraid of this. Because you know what can stop this, right?
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45.
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Just saying. I'm not afraid of this thing. But they said that they're relatively unbreakable. They call it the cop ball. It's a murder ball. They have net guns, tear gas sprayers, grenades, loudspeakers. You know what I'm really what I'm looking at? Is I'm looking at a delivery service for free grenades and tear gas and sprayers. That's what I'm looking at. You could catch one of these things and take it apart, couldn't you? I mean, theoretically. And we're talking about China, so I don't have to worry about being nice about it. I don't have to worry about it. It's a giant murder ball. Now, some people thought it was a marketing stunt, but apparently they're really actually trying to implement this thing. They wanted to replace humans in dangerous instances. It weighs four tons. Well, it said it can withstand a whopping four tons of impact. And it's Oh, it can go a whole 22 miles per hour. Great job, China. Your dumb murder ball. We found a way to do more of the communism with our murder ball. That's what this is. We're going to spread the sickling hammer with our murder ball. I just want to know, where does it put the grenades in that? And does someone, I guess, what if it gets hit with an EMP? I still say it's a thing of, it's a grenade bomb. delivery unit. That's what it is. Gives you some free grenades and stuff. They said the wheels can be locked so it can walk in a traditional way if it has to climb stairs. I mean it's a giant ball. Roll up them. I don't know. This whole thing. They said it's unstoppable even in extreme weather. And they have they've been releasing videos showing it work. I don't know. I still I still think the robot thing is the creepiest. The one that the Tesla bot, that's the creepiest, but they've been rolling them out. It's been in a, it's only in a couple of areas, but they have these giant murder balls out there. The Chinese murder balls. If you saw one of these, well, first off Kane, say you haven't committed a crime, but still, if you saw one of these like coming at you, right? What would your response be?
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Get out of the way. Thing looks like it could run over me.
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I mean, it only goes 22 miles per hour.
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Yeah, but I can only run like maybe eight or 10.
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Yeah, but I feel like this is why everybody needs a scooter or something. Or like the ability to convert your shoes into whatever works with the, what are the things with the stick?
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The go-go gadget.
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No, I have one. I have a mini version of one and I can't think of what the name of it is. Yes, like a Segway. Like your shoes can, I just feel like I could get away from it. I'd climb something or I'd shoot it. I don't know. I could get away from it.
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Yeah, you could definitely shoot it.
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And then I'd take all the, I would literally strip it for parts.
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I want to see it in action actually doing what it's supposed to do. Like walking with cops down the road, it's not an impressive display of what this thing can do. I want to see it launch one of those, what did they say it had? One of those net things?
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Tear gas. I'm looking at the list. It can disperse tear gas, built-in net gun.
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Net gun.
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Stun gun.
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Imagine shooting the net gun at somebody and taking down this. I want to see that. That's what I want to see from this Chinese commie ball.
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Murder ball.
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Murder commie ball.
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It's a spherical robocop.
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Commie murder ball.
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That sounds almost like a band name I want. Commie murder ball. The robot is called Clone Alpha. It's described as a musculoskeletal android. That's the clone robot that they have, the area humanoid bot. This was just a giant ball of death in a Benny Hill kind of way. It does look like a bit like it's like a Benny Hill cop. I can't make fun of this enough from China. So immigration, the Netherlands is looking to cap its population. Their hard right government is backing immigration. They're hard right government. They're government that wants some response. Shut up. This stuff is so stupid. Hard right. Hard left. Everything's stupid. The government that wants to have a little bit more sovereignty, they want to stop people from coming in illegally. And they're also saying we need to keep our population under 20 million because we're literally not having to. We're not able to sustain this. But they said that if we keep our population in check, we're going to have to have a period of austerity for a little bit. Nobody likes that. You talk about austerity. People don't want that. They get very upset. So they're trying to limit intake. And this is all making the EU very angry. Because the EU wants unfettered access. They want to have just a flood of illegal immigrants coming in. France is bracing for chaos because they've been having a series of votes. As you know, conservatives have been really making some gains in French parliament. Of course, not just in France also, but in the EU. Because now there's a lot of murmurs in France. They've got to do something about, again, the unfettered, crazy amount of illegal immigration. A lot of it was stemmed by Angela Merkel in Germany. And now... Things are changing in Europe. They're changing. They're starting to catch on. Maybe Democrats will too. We have more on the way we have today in these United States as we move our partners. Over at Preborn, this is an organization that does so much to help women and children. And they've been out there saving lives. Preborn clinics have counseled over half a million women considering abortion. More than 300,000 babies have been saved and over 80,000 women have come to Christ. And every day, Preborn Network clinics rescue 200 babies from abortion. And they've partnered with pregnancy clinics. in the highest abortion cities and regions providing life-saving ultrasounds. And that's a huge competitor to the abortion industry when a woman can see her baby. And that's a huge thing. A baby's chance at life doubles when the mom sees the ultrasound and hears the heartbeat. And you can be a part of this. You can help because, see, they they partner with women beyond ultrasounds for the next two years. They help with maternity, baby clothes, diapers, car seats, counseling and so much more. These are free of charge up to two years of assistance. And mothers who choose life, they get the help. They meet these women where they where they are and they help them and they they really serve them. And that's pretty amazing. They're saving lives. And you can help. Gifted $28 sponsors one ultrasound, 140 sponsors five. Any donation helps. When you sponsor monthly, you receive ultrasound pictures of the babies you're saving. All gifts are tax-deductible, and Preborn has a four-star charity rating, so you can give with confidence. Visit preborn.com slash Dana and help save a baby and mother's life. That's preborn.com slash Dana.
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Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States.
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Now, you know, we know there was a probability. It could have been our own government. We know it's not our own government because they would have let us know. It could have been some really glorified hobbyist or hobbyists that were doing something unbelievable. They don't have the technology. But let's pretend that's possible. The third possibility was somebody, an adversarial country, doing this. Know that Iran made a deal with China to purchase drones, motherships, and technology in order to go forward. The sources I have are good. They can't reveal who they are because they are speaking to me in confidentiality. These drones should be shot down. Whether it was some crazy hobbyist that we can't imagine, or whether it is Iran, and I think it very possibly could be, they should be shot down. We are not getting the full deal.
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So why don't we if it's true, why don't we just and if we know where it is, why don't we just park a destroyer right next to it? You know, just put a put a little destroyer, a little destroyer right there. And see how long it goes. I don't know what I don't know what I think of us. This is a congressman who was talking about the Jeff Andrew, who was saying that all the drones that everybody's been seen in Jersey are actually these drones from this Iranian mothership. And this is part of a deal between Iran and China. They had acquired these related technology for this mothership and all these drones. They acquired all of this from Iran. So I don't know what... I mean, if this is true... And I watched that live. That was just, what, last hour? I watched that live and I... Like, what? Nobody's ever heard of this. It's the first time a lot of people heard of it. That's kind of wild, right? Why wouldn't they shoot him down? I'd be blowing everything out of the sky that wasn't cleared from outer space. And if you don't have the means to do it, I got a solution for you. There's a thing. It's three words. It's a solution. To this drone issue. You want to know what it's called? If you don't want to park a destroyer next to the Iranian mothership, you want to know what you do? You get that three-letter solution. Good old boys. Super easy. Because there are some people out there who literally love nothing more than shooting stuff out the sky. And you say, we need some help. You're going to have good old boys and girls all over the country that we are here to serve. and they're going to be pulling up with their Benellis and their Mossbergs and their KSGs or anything else. They're going to be showing up with their bird guns, and they're going to be popping these things right out of the sky. Very simple. Easy to do. I bet they won't even make you pay them to do it. They will probably offer to pay you. Like, is there a tag I've got to get for it? I mean, they would love nothing more. So I'm just saying, you know, if all else fails... You have the GOB response, the good old boy response. You get some folks out there that love, they'll just like free skeet. Skeet, skeet, skeet. They're going to have a ball, a blast, pun intended. That's the way to do it. But how in the world, is that what all this is? I mean, nobody has said anything. It's kind of weird. We've been talking about, oh, there's some drones flying all over New Jersey. I was hoping for aliens, but as always, I'm disappointed. I'm forever disappointed. You know, it's just dumb Iranians. I mean, not that that's like a less of a thing, but I was hoping for some real fireworks with some aliens. But instead, we got these dumb damn Iranians doing this stuff. Really? I mean, it's just like shooting fish in a barrel if we really wanted to. We got more on the way. Second hour. Stick with us. So, apparently, I'm coming back to the drone story because there's more. I'm fascinated with this. So, apparently, they're saying that there's a... Like, I guess it's an airbase of ours. I dropped this in Slack for you guys. The drone invasion, or what they're saying... multiple states, but also apparently over our U.S. base in Germany. The first drone sightings, according to this, because it was over the Picatinny Arsenal and then also Trump's Bedminster Golf Course, this is back in November, and then over U.S. military bases in the U.K. last month, a British intel chief has warned that there could be, they thought they could be Russian- And they said that these UAVs, these unmanned aerial vehicles, they were hovering over RAF Lake and Heath and Mildenhall and a couple of bases. So they were looking at British bases. And then, of course, over our bases in Germany. That's OK. It gets you see why it's weird. And that one's got one. That's just like one photo. one unaltered photo so that's how many i mean you've got six of them just in actually more than six eight in that one so i don't know like i mean it's like the military confirmed that they were at rammstein the the u.s air base in rammstein this was in just a week ago and that was according to air force base they said there were no impacts to there's no impact to anything But they'd already said that they'd seen them over there. So what's up? What gives? I mean, good heavens. I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist, but if it's a military testing thing, then that's a pretty widespread thing. Maybe there's a reason why they want to be very quiet about it because, I don't know, it's It's like part of the way that they're trying to freak out the opposition, which would be a good, you know, kind of very Sun Tzu way. Make you think like make your opposition think that you got a lot more than you have. I don't know. It's weird. I don't. It's hard to say. I don't know. Kane thoughts now that's over their bases in Germany.
SPEAKER 07 :
I've been down so many rabbit holes on this particular subject that, honestly, I don't even know what to think. There's so much void as it relates to answers that people are filling that void with all of their speculation. So now we just have this question of what the hell's going on? And we can't even get that answered.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. I don't... I think that there's going to be more. I think the more that you that you lack transparency, the more that the conspiracy theories grow. I mean, if it's going to be this visible to the public, then you need to tell the public something about it if it's a military thing. So I don't know. Just very, very wild. We've got more. We'll come back to that. We've got more on the way. But I've got a number of other things to touch on as well here that because we want to get you set up for the weekend. I'm pulling up my here it is going to pull up all my notes on everything. So the we talked a little bit earlier. how the AG in Jersey is suing Glock to put what he's calling the homemade machine gun industry out of business. This is probably one of the dumbest things I think I've seen in quite some time. Going after manufacturers because criminals choose to use them in a certain way. Now, there's been a lot of really good victories as it pertains to 2A lately. Although, I mean, there's some stuff in the Fifth Circuit. There's been a couple of other fights. But this, I don't think he's going to be successful in that just simply because it's not a modification that is even promoted or It's not that that's because someone chooses to do something illegal with their legally purchased with a product that's legal to sell and legal to purchase doesn't mean that it's the product's fault. It's like if you in certain states, you can't tint your you can't tint all your windows. Right. It's like if you tint all your windows and you break the law, that's not the auto. It's not the auto manufacturer's responsibility. It's the responsibility of the person who can do those modifications on the vehicle. It would be like going after Ford or Lexus or whatever for somebody tinting their windows when that's not, you know what I mean? So this is stupid. I don't even know how this can be justified to stand in court, but it's really... I think kind of showcases the absence of education on the issue, particularly when you are an attorney general of a state. So we've seen AGs use their authority like Andrew Bailey, Eric Schmidt before he became senator, Ken Paxton here, use their influence to do a lot of good. Well, you're also going to probably start seeing a lot of very lefty AGs in blue states. do the opposite use their influence to try to wage war against the incoming administration so they're gearing up for that that's and this is going to be this is just one of the ways where they're they're trying to flex and see what all they can do but i cannot see this case going anywhere i just can't speaking of justice or injustice biden is being really harshly more criticized for his commutations more is coming to light we talked to you about the Chinese pederast that he released in like a prisoner swap that was part of this whole deal, the commutations and everything that he did yesterday. One of them, one of the people that he commuted the sentence of is a notorious kids for cash judge. He's this like crooked Pennsylvania judge. And he funneled juveniles to detention facilities that were for profit and And he got paid off of that. He got over $2 million in kickbacks for sending these kids to these for-profit detention centers. The Luzerne County judge, Michael Conahan, he's the guy at the center of it. He was among the 1,499 commutations. And I mean, one of the mothers was livid. Sandy Fonzo, her son committed suicide because his detention was extended as part of this operation where this judge was getting kickbacks. And as a result, her son killed himself. He committed suicide. And I can't even imagine... I can't believe that you would pardon a guy like this who would use his authority not only in this expanded scope of big state, but to so... callously soullessly go after disadvantaged or troubled youth as a way to make money off of it if they're in detention for longer and then shipping them off to these for-profit facilities. I mean, that gives credence to the accusations about the business of incarceration. I got to tell you, it does. It gives a lot of credence to it when you hear stories like this. And remember, who's the party that just commuted the sentence of one of the biggest abusers of it? I mean, this is just it's crazy that this that this is what he's doing with his. He just doesn't care. He just doesn't care. And then, of course, there's the preemptive pardons, which he's thinking of handing out, which I think says so much more about the left than it does the right. I get I get real aggravated because I've had some drive by say, you know, it's so nice that you're not talking about. the need for these preemptive pardons. I've had some real hateful people in the past few days, like try to comment on that. Okay, so here's my question to the drive-bys. When did Trump do that his first term? When did he go after people his first term? Like look at Hillary Clinton. He literally chanted lock her up at every damn event that he did in 2016. Where, and going up to the 2016 election, where did he lock her up? He didn't remember. When they asked him about it, he had said he was just going to leave her alone. And that was it. He just kind of shrugged it off and she was never locked up. He doesn't even talk about Hunter anymore. When did he ever go after people? That's what the left does. The left anticipates it because that's literally what they do. They weaponize agencies and go after people. So they're trying to think they're assuming that the incoming administration is going to do exactly what they would do. So they got to get all these preemptive pardons as much as possible. They got to get all this. They've got to get it as much. They've got to get set. Audio soundbite 17. Senator Coons, he talks about this. Listen.
SPEAKER 16 :
I think the president's got to weigh a lot of different factors. How seriously he believes that Kash Patel, the nominee to be FBI director and the other nominees to lead the Trump administration's law enforcement agencies, how seriously they are determined to go after their enemies list. And whether or not some of those who are on that list and who are reasonably foreseeably going to be investigated want a pardon. If they talk through this issue and decide that there's no one who is seeking a pardon, that will lead them down one path. If there's others who are petitioning urgently for some relief, I think you should seriously consider it.
SPEAKER 14 :
So they're wanting relief. They want preemptive pardons. But then then he says this. Audio soundbite 18 about January 6. Listen.
SPEAKER 13 :
President-elect Trump says he is going to pardon January 6th rioters. We don't know which ones or how many in the first hour after he is inaugurated. How do you feel about that?
SPEAKER 16 :
I think that is a terrible idea. These are people who have been duly tried and convicted in a court of law of having assaulted police officers, swarmed, stormed into the Capitol, in many cases attempted directly, physically and violently to interrupt the peaceful transfer
SPEAKER 14 :
No, not all of them were. And look, I don't think and I think I can pretty much speak for everybody on this. Not not all of them were. And the ones who were violent and who engaged in violence or engaged in property destruction. I don't think any of us have a problem with those people meeting justice. I mean, we said that we've said it at the time. We've said it now. I don't think anybody has a problem with them receiving justice. But. There were so many, and they always ignore this other part of it. There were hundreds of people who did not engage in anything like that, but they were targeted with stupid charges. Like one of the ones that I most remember is the unlawful parading where they went after like this elderly woman because they said she'd engaged in unlawful parading and they were gonna throw her in jail. Like they were throwing not just the book, all the books at these people. So that's, I mean, for him to just kind of, that's hypocritical. You want you want to have preemptive pardons for people because you're anticipating a lot of criminal action or or the administration is going to target you. But that's exactly what the left did with a lot of these J6 people. Notice how there's no consistency in any of their answers.
SPEAKER 07 :
And now all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's quick five.
SPEAKER 14 :
This is actually crazy. The shocking toll of getting six hours of sleep per night has been revealed in horrifying images. It's a British bedding and mattress company, and they illustrate what people might look like in 25 years if they regularly don't get enough sleep. And they are nasty looking. I mean, they look like cave dwellers. Let's be real. Like, they look like legit cave dwellers with us. Their skin is saggy. They're all droopy. Their hair is, like, weird. It's just... They look like golems from Lord of the Rings. It's one of the... Juan's gonna show you. I gotta wait for you to see this chick. This is apparently... Now, she looks like she's on meth, too. But they said that's what you look like if you're not gonna get six hours of sleep a night. Good heavens. Why is she hunched over like that? Weird. Weird. So the, let's see, the kit sold, the gyro kit sold at Sam's Club is, they have possibly tainted cucumbers. Why don't you, why do you have to get a kit? But it's called the Beef and Lamb Utero Sandwich Express Meal Kit. The gyro sandwiches. They said that's... The cucumbers are tainted, basically. They're nasty. Yeah, and that's tzatziki sauce. I love tzatziki sauce, though. Let's see. This. Oh, Daniel Penny was invited to be J.D. Vance's guest at the Army-Navy game this weekend. Good for him. Good for him. The intermittent fasting. I disagree with us. The intermittent fasting that millions of people do, because I do intermittent fasting. They said that it is driving hair loss. And they said that they have researchers, but it's from a university in China. But they say that the diet starves the cells of energy that they need to encourage healthy hair growth. Okay, that's a lie because I do intermittent fasting and I have more hair than known on earth. I have an insane amount of hair. When I cut my hair, everyone's like, oh, you removed your extensions. I legit did not have to have any. I've never had them. I just have that much hair and I've done intermittent fasting for a couple of years now, so... I don't believe that. I don't think that's true. Jewelry thieves were arrested after an SUV crash, after they crashed their SUV, and they tried to escape on a rowboat. Golly, this was in Port Gamble. They tried to get away on a little bitty dinky rowboat. Nope, it didn't work. They stole $11,000 in jewelry. They were totally caught. It did not work. And it looked lame. And at one point, it looked like the boat was taking on water. I mean, they didn't get very far at all whatsoever. I mean, they're not the brightest people, you know. Let's see. Oh, the world's most expensive Christmas tree was unveiled in Germany. And it's 10 foot of solid gold. And it's worth about $5 million. And it's ugly as all get out. It's ugly. It's made of gold coins. It's 10 feet tall. It's worth $4 million, and it's literally all Vienna Philharmonic coins, 2,024 of them. It's a 24-carat gold coin that sits right at the top of the giant pyramid. It's not a tree. Stop it. It's a giant pyramid. So, I don't know. They wanted to because they could, I guess. We have a lot more on the way, including the latest on everything. Drones and cabinet and foreign policy. And also, we've got to get into the sold story. Stick with us.
SPEAKER 12 :
The dreamers are gonna come later and we have to do something about the dreamers because these are people that have been brought here. at a very young age and many of these are middle-aged people now they don't even speak the language of their country and yes we're going to do something about that what are you going to do i will work with the democrats on a plan and if we can come up with a plan but the democrats have made it very very difficult to do anything republicans are very open to the dreamers the dreamers we're talking many years ago they were brought into this country many years ago some of them are no longer young people and In many cases, they become successful. They have great jobs. In some cases, they have small businesses. In some cases, they might have large businesses. And we're going to have to do something with them. And you want them to be able to stay.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's what you're not addressing. If they're able to create businesses and make successes, why the hell could they not file for citizenship on top of it? Especially with the implementation of DACA, they were prevented from deportation for a good long period. So if they were doing so. So that doesn't answer the question. It doesn't solve the problem. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you at the bottom of this second hour. That's that's what's being missed here. I mean, if you're able, no one's faulting people for being children and drug across the border against their own free will by their parents or whatever. But that's where that stops. There is culpability when you, as an adult, if you can create a business and you can go through the process of Licensing and getting capital, doing all of this stuff, filling out paperwork to go to college, really doing anything. You sure as hell can start the process of becoming a legal citizen in this country. You absolutely can, especially when you were prevented from being deported by ICE because of the DACA allowances already. So that doesn't make any sense. It's still rewarding bad behavior. And that's not why people voted the way that they did, by the way. People did not vote for that. That's not what they voted for. So in absence of recognizing that if you are in the country illegally, you're brought there, brought here as a kid. And then you try to rectify that as you start a business and all that stuff. And you were protected under Barack Obama and Joe Biden. You were you were prevented from being able to deport you. With an absence of recognition of that, this is not a solution. This is just a Democrat talking point. That's what it is. And you can get mad about it if you want to, but I'm not the one saying the Democrat talking point. I'm pointing it out. That's not what we voted for. I did not vote for that. I did not vote for that. I don't want no bait and switch here. Do not George H.W. Bush me on this. I don't want a bait and switch. Don't want it. Oh, yeah. No, read my lips. No new taxes. Read my lips. We're going to deport everyone. No, we're not doing that. You do it. Follow through. And it is realistic. If you have not started the process, then that's an act of criminality. And at some point you are responsible for your own actions regardless of how you got here. You were allowed to stay here because the assumption, and this is one of the reasons why DACA was so dumb, the assumption was that you were going to be starting the process to be a citizen. And if you didn't do it, then that's on you. So why are we rewarding that? That's a basic question, is it not? I mean, doing something like this, you know, Reagan's and I and look, I like Reagan. Everybody likes Reagan. I can say things about the record of President Ronald Reagan that does not diminish my like of him. I like him. I mean, I disagree with his gun control. I mean, we got gun control to Reagan and we got one of the largest three million some odd sweeping amnesty under Reagan. I don't want to see that repeated here. There has to be some kind of accountability. And that's really ultimately what it is. I don't know why that that caveat cannot be attached. Why Republicans are so scared. This sounds, I mean, I'm aggravated because I feel like already, here we are, not even in January, and we already got this coming in. Can I remind you? That for all the talk, I think all the people saying that Republicans won this election by a landslide, these people have never paid attention in politics. They got quick ascension because they say red meat things that everyone else says on TikTok or on X or wherever. And they actually don't have any deep insight. They just kind of like regurgitate what other people say. They have not paid attention to turnout in elections. They have not paid attention to trends. All that stuff matters. We legit had the same turnout that we did in 2020. What made it seem like it was a massive turnout is that Democrats didn't come out to vote. I mean, they weren't going to go out and vote for Kamala Harris. They didn't vote for anybody. They didn't come out. It made it seem like it was this huge sweeping thing for us. And my telling you that means we didn't solve these problems. We didn't solve the problems. It was the same turnout in 2020. Not much different from 2016. So you still had a lot of Republicans that didn't vote. It just happened that more Democrats did not vote this time. And that's what contributed to the victory. Now, I'm not saying that to undermine or be mean, and I don't need people who don't pay attention to this stuff. I'm telling you this because do you want to keep risking it in the future? I mean, if there are people out there who value their ego and being able to flex on X more than they actually do about contributing to anything in meat space, then they can go ahead and they can sit and spin on my remarks there. but I'm telling you this because we haven't solved the problem, and you're not going to solve the problem by weakening yourself on immigration after election. People voted for something very, very specific. I don't want to have another election where the victory is hinged upon Democrats not being enthused and not turning out. My gosh, we cannot do that. We've got to get our people out, and we have to have good policy that we can point to as reason for their continued support. That's what it's all about. So I don't like what I'm hearing from him on this. Because again, it ignores the fact that you have people who are now grown, they know better, and they're choosing to still not follow the law anyway. How is that any different at that point? Because they're assuming the criminal offense. They're not inheriting a criminal offense. They were protected under previous DACA accommodations, and then they have thus far declined to start the process to become legal citizens. So at some point, the responsibility transfers to them because they are the ones who could do something about it, were expected to do something about it, and chose to not do something about it. Are we not the party of accountability? Because again, I just want to know if what I voted for on Tuesday is what I actually, or on November, is what I voted for or not. And I think it's a fair question to ask. I need everyone to remember, you don't owe your allegiance to anyone. Except yourself. You're the voter. You're the one who people should be pledging fealty to. Not the other way around. I guess some of us are just way too American to tolerate that kind of spin. So people need to deliver for you. You voted. You were the ones who had your characters impugned and you don't have millions of dollars to cry into. You had your characters impugned. You had your businesses closed. Your families targeted. You're the one who was owed. When you vote, you expect a return on the investment of that vote. Do not sell yourself short because you're worth more than that. So I don't know what this is. I will say I do like that he's outright refusing any kind of involvement in Syria. And we're going to talk about this more with our friend Stephen Yates here coming up next hour. Because it is the Syria issue. It's not something the United States needs to be involved in. I mean... Not at all. No reason as to why. But you have people like Lindsey Graham and others that are very, very excited. They think that, oh, here's something. But one of the other big points that I see being missed is the, I would say, the destabilization this has caused to Iran. I think after October 7th, Iran did not count on Israel fully eschewing all of the, I don't want to call it advice, lectures, I guess, that it was receiving from so many other nations about, oh, well, you can't react and you can't do this and you can't do that. They weren't expecting the kind of pushback they got against Hezbollah. They were not. And now, I mean, one of the reasons that Iran was able to supply Hezbollah so easy was because Syria under Assad allowed it. That's part of that Shiite crescent, the power struggle in the Muslim world. The Arab League had been working with negotiations, but they've been in a stalemate for, I don't know how long, in Syria, for quite a long time. And Israel overpowers Hezbollah, completely knocks Iran back, And now they've they've lost Syria and the cover that Syria provided. I'm just saying they now they have they used to have a direct path to their proxy militias. Now they don't. I mean, you had up until what the end of last month, you had Assad and Hezbollah were still controlling parts of Syria. Now they don't. And now the Iranians are left out just completely unsupported. Very interesting. And it's a very huge shift in the power dynamic in the Middle East. And And this is something that Netanyahu had noted. Reuters has the story of how when he was making, he was in Golan Heights, and he was speaking about the collapse of the Assad regime. And he noted that, well, part of this was due to the defeat of Hezbollah in the north. And reemphasized that Israel will protect its borders. Iran did not, they gambled wrongly. They really, really underestimate. Can you imagine, again, back to the point that the question that I asked first hour, can you imagine if Israel had listened to Western leaders about what it should do? Oh, don't be so hard on Hezbollah. Well, there's a reason they were working with the Assad regime. There's no good choice in Syria. But the idea that the rebels coming in are somehow some sort of saints, they're terrorists. They're literal, actual terrorists. So, I mean, the only thing to kind of get excited about is that the mullahs in Iran are totally destabilized now. So when will the people of Iran take a second running at maybe another Arab Spring? Remember the first time that happened, they had the Iranian guard up there on the rooftops sniping people. We'll see. Hamas, and there's a change with Hamas too. So apparently, where's the story that I had? So apparently, one of the things with Hamas is that they were getting notes and taking inventory, for the lack of a better way to put it, of the hostages that they have to be able to use them in any kind of negotiation. And apparently, some of the previous requirements that they had including like Israel stopping all, ceasing all responses, which they call hostilities, responses, et cetera. They're dropping some of those because I think they're realizing now how dire the situation is for them. I mean, they've been utterly decimated in the South. Hezbollah is decimated in the North. So now Hamas is demanding that, well, they need Israel to stop any offensive so that they can get information on these hostages. And They're trying to ascertain how many that they have in custody, etc. And I think Hamas is realizing, OK, it's over. It's already over. It's done for this part. And Israel pushing back so hard on Hezbollah, just that was like kicking out that table leg, that third leg out from underneath Assad in Syria and Iran. And now it's destabilized that they were trying that little crescent that they were trying to build is just all fallen down.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 14 :
So when I first read that this Florida man had decorated his yard with the lamp from A Christmas Story, I thought, well, how big could it be? You'd be surprised. J.P. McCallick's suburban Jacksonville, Florida home is It's 20 feet tall. And it even includes a replica of Ralphie hugging the lamp wearing his pink bunny suit. Is it an inflatable? Because it really doesn't even look like it's an inflatable. But he goes, I like his response. He goes, quote, everyone's decorating their houses. And I thought it'd be fun to have like a neighborhood competition. And so he just decided to put that up. He also, I mean, it's crazy. He does not have what I would call traditional decorations. But that's funny. So he's got the giant leg lamp in his yard. I kind of like that, though. I've been wanting to get a giant nativity lamp. put in my yard but I want a giant nativity like a huge one some people in my household don't share my vision I mean no but you know if it's awkward you know I want like resin right we had to talk we gotta save this for later cuz I got more hang on I got more to get into let's see oh my gosh listen to this a florida man says delta airlines burned his golf bag and clubs worth nearly four thousand dollars oh and it looks real bad too i'm looking at the destruction of it he said that his golf bag was burned and everything was charred i don't even know how you burn because golf clubs are what are they metal aluminum yeah He was this is in October. He was on a flight from Atlanta. He was waiting for his luggage at the Southwest Florida International Airport. And then he said when he saw it come around again, he goes, wait, oh, my gosh, those are our those are my clubs. The freight guy said that they dragged it and it wore through the protective covering, started to spark, and then it caught everything on fire. So he's filed a claim with Delta. Delta initially denied the claim. And finally, they said that they were going to pay for it. But it was like, I mean, and it looks bad. How do you drag them and then spark? That's just negligence. That's just laziness and negligence. I don't know how else you attribute that. Look, I just want to show you the photo. Look at that. That's crazy. That's what they look like. That's insane. Oh, my gosh. Let's see. Last but not least, a half-naked Florida man, I may have to share this tomorrow, high on meth, broke into a home, only to steal the resident's carpet cleaner. Welcome back to the program, Dana Lash with you at the top of this third hour. It's already Tuesday. Tomorrow's Wednesday. We're almost to Christmas Eve week. It's pretty amazing. You can listen across the country. We also have the chat at Rumble. And don't forget to sign up over at Substack. Lots of good stuff up there. So where to even start? I'm going to pull. What's going on with America's hat? I know the Canadian government is just losing it. But now I was reading something about the challenger, like some of the people who are challenging Trump. The governor or the president, the head, just call him the governor of the state of Canada, Justin Trudeau, little Castro. People, they're trying to pressure him into resigning. I mean, he should. And he's trying to save his spot. He's fighting back against it. But I did think it was kind of interesting. He's been for 11 years now the head of their liberal party. And That's quite a long time. They could elect a new leader. Whether or not they're going to do that, I guess that's where we'll see. One of his challengers is Jagmeet Singh. He's one of the guys who's called on Trudeau to resign, demand that he step down. Apparently he wants an election in March because he wants to lock in his pension before the election in March. I don't know. Politicians are going to politician. But there's I think we have the audio of this where he was being yelled at by people. He is not a audio somebody 19. He is not. This is live television. He is not a popular person. Listen.
SPEAKER 17 :
Prime Minister, are you going to remain in office?
SPEAKER 08 :
No, what gives you the right to continue? What gives you the right to stay in office? You failed Canada. You've ruined our country. You're done. Walk away. You don't have an ounce of your father's integrity. At least he walked in the snow. You've ruined this country. Everyone around you is running from you. They're abandoning you. Chris Creel and Sean Frazier, they've all left you. It's time for you to go. It's time for Canada to have an election.
SPEAKER 14 :
You're not the king. Dang. I mean, that is something else. That's pretty amazing. They're not, they don't like him. He was really, I thought like when he was first elected, he was pretty celebrated and everybody, you know, the Canadians seemed to like him, but now they hate him. They don't like him at all anymore. I think there's probably, I mean, obviously a good reason for that. But their government is, I think he's going to get run out. I think that the tide is turning. I think it's turning. I think he's, say on air what you just said.
SPEAKER 07 :
Imagine what it takes to make polite Canadians into these mad, rabid people. Imagine what that takes.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's exactly what Trudeau's done.
SPEAKER 14 :
I mean, I think because aren't they pretty much like, hey, sorry to offend. Maple syrup, maple leaves. Yay. I don't know. The finance minister resigned. That was his, you know, his top top lieutenant. He's out. I don't know. I can't imagine him staying on. I just can't imagine him staying on in this position. I don't because he's. Well, Pierre Polivere, who I love, he's this guy who, do you guys remember Pierre Polivere? He follows me on X. He was the guy who was eating an apple when a reporter was asking him questions. And he, in the most lackadaisical manner possible, just gutted this guy. But he says that Trudeau has to resign. Listen.
SPEAKER 18 :
Mr. Trudeau is being held in office by one man, Jagmeet Singh. A fifth of Liberal MPs have written a letter for him to resign. His deputy prime minister has walked out on him. His housing minister has quit. That on top of numerous other female ministers who stormed out after his appalling mistreatment and abuse and dishonesty towards them. 80% of Canadians have lost confidence in this prime minister. So why is Jagmeet Singh making the entire country wait for him to get his pension? That is the question.
SPEAKER 14 :
He wants his pension. March election. So he can lock in his pension. That's why. Well, we'll watch and see what happens with the governor of Canada there. We'll watch and see. San Francisco. Has a new government position. Did you hear about this? No. Yeah. It is a consultant. I'm not going to play this whole video because it's stupid. Well, maybe I will, actually. This person is supposed to be the, checks notes, weight stigma czar. What? Mm-hmm. Now, Cain. Yeah? I want you to tell me. if the person whose image I just placed in Slack is qualified to be the Chex Notes weight stigma czar?
SPEAKER 07 :
No. I almost went on a tangent there, but no. Juan's going to be putting up a quick little video of her in action.
SPEAKER 14 :
What is weight neutrality?
SPEAKER 07 :
I think that's in space, right? You're weightless.
SPEAKER 14 :
We'll play this when he gets it. It's that ridiculous. She's working with a team at the San Francisco Department of Public Health, it says here, as a consultant on weight stigma and weight neutrality. What is weight neutrality? What is that? Is that a thing?
SPEAKER 07 :
When someone's neutral... Does it have a flag? I guess if you're just neutral about the idea of weight or extra weight, I... Your guess is as good as mine, but Juan's ready if you're ready.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, please. Let's hear this. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER 17 :
Hi, my name is Virgie Tovar, and I'm the author of You Have the Right to Remain Fat, as well as a few other books on fat positivity and body acceptance. When I think about what people might be surprised by or what you wouldn't think of when you think of eating disorders, I immediately think of being a kid. I was a kid in a larger body, a teen in a larger body, and also an adult in a larger body. And the message I always got from my doctor was shrink your body by any means necessary. And it really felt like there was a sense of a don't ask, don't tell. So because I truly, truly, truly believed, right? And this is where I think the surprise comes in. I really believed that this was about my health. I really believe that my doctor was right. Because why would I believe anything?
SPEAKER 07 :
That's real.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's real. Your doctor was right. And it's not... Let's not do fat positivity. I don't believe in fat shaming people unless, you know, it calls for it. But people pointing out that your obesity is a comorbidity is a health issue. That's not people trying to be mean. And I think people need to stop being victims. Stop being a victim. I mean, come on. Seriously. It's... I... really don't understand this idea. Was this a backlash to the heroin chic of the 90s? Is that what we're living with still?
SPEAKER 07 :
What I don't get is imagine any other health concern, whether it's diabetes or whether it's just anything health-wise. Would you encourage people to continue behavior that would exasperate or make that health problem worse? Would you do that? Would you affirm them? knowing that it would make their problem worse? Why would you do that?
SPEAKER 14 :
This, when she says, you know, I have a right to, you know, you have a right to be fat or whatever. You don't. And here's why. After you don't absolutely blink and do not. And here's why. After Obamacare passed and we all had to pay higher insurance premiums to pay for people who didn't or couldn't want to pay, oh, I get to have a say in all of that. So you don't get any rights because you invited my tax dollars in. And where my tax dollars go, I follow with a boot in the door. That's what happens. So... No, I get to be involved in it. Yeah, you don't.
SPEAKER 07 :
My body, my choice.
SPEAKER 14 :
No, it's not my choice to pay your damn bills, so it's not your body to make a choice of. No. If my money goes to it, I'm the boss of you. I will go and knock that zinger right the hell out your hand, and I'll put a carrot in its place, okay? Oh, you want to have a little Debbie's fudge round? Eat some cucumber or broccoli. Stop it. I have a right too. I have a right to go where my tax dollars go. And if you're sucking up more of my tax dollars because you can't get a handle on your weight, then that's a problem for me. I shouldn't have to subsidize that. No one thought of that when they were pushing for the expansion of Obamacare and jacking up everybody's premiums so that we would have to pay for everyone else's care. So no. And everyone's like, oh, Dana. Look, I work really hard. To stay in shape and I eat healthy and I do intermittent fasting. I do all of that stuff. I've always worked out. I've always been athletic. I've always maintained. And it's not because a privilege just decided to, you know, a fairy godmother apparated out of the ether and was like, I'm going to make you like this forever. It's you actually it's an effort. And I don't want to hear about anyone else's problems or excuses. I don't care. Make the effort. And don't expect me to pay your medical bills because that's the situation we're all in. And as a result, no one can say that they have a right to be this or that. Since you wanted, you asked for this. We warned you. Don't say that we didn't warn you because we did. But back to my first question. What the hell is weight neutrality? What is that? Like I'm trying to imagine. So, you know, we have a lot of truckers that listen. God love them. Is that like when do they do that for the weight on your truck? You know, like if you go in and you're a weigh station and like, oh, you're weight neutral to a truck and they're low. Do they say that?
SPEAKER 1 :
No.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm pretty positive. No.
SPEAKER 14 :
i'm just fascinated by i've never i'm today years old i've never heard of that phrase the whole weight neutrality thing right now i will say this i do think that some chicks can go way too far the other way like i always bring up madonna as an example she at some point as you age my grandmother always said at one point in her life a woman has to choose between her face or her body Now, I've already told you guys, maybe I haven't been public about it, what my goal is. Because everyone always thinks, I've never had plastic surgery or anything like that for the love. But I do have a plan to combat wrinkles when it starts setting in. I mean, I got a little bit here and there. But I got a plan. You want to know my plan? I'm going to get fat. It's a natural filler. I'm just going to... Because I choose face... That's it. I choose face because you can't hide ugly. That's why.
SPEAKER 07 :
Do you have the right to be fat then at that point?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I'm going to do it in like a healthy way. I'm not going to be like morbidly obese. That's totally my plan. All right. My grandmother was like, and she said the age is different. What she told me was this. She was like, at some point in her life, a woman has to choose between face or body. i'm like why she's like you won't know until you get there and then she looked at me and she was like i chose face she was like that's why she was like very proud she's like that's why i chose face that's why i don't have hardly no wrinkles that's what she would say and i get it so that's my joke that's my i i'm kind of joking but not really that's my whole goal but not like morbidly obese just you know i'm just saying so all natural. There's a difference. You don't want to be visceral and tawny like Madonna. I don't want to see your ligaments and stuff. A woman shouldn't look like beef jerky. You're supposed to be soft. Don't be brainwashed by these fourth wave fembots into thinking that you can't have any fat on your body. Women need it. Especially as you get older, you need that extra especially if you get older because you know it helps you when you're an older age so anyway i still don't understand what weight neutral is i'm gonna hear from every trucker who listens to us i am gonna get treaties on it that's what's gonna happen like big essays on it i can't wait all right we got we we got a lot more to come as uh we roll towards where are we at oh my gosh are we already in headlines is this already the third hour I feel like Christmas is coming up too fast. Anybody else think that? I feel like that, too.
SPEAKER 07 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 14 :
I don't even know what the... This is nuts. So, this story, apparently, it can't be Christmas here until the city shoots lasers at 20,000 crows. Mm-hmm. I don't know. It's over at MSN. So apparently, and by the way, whoever David Andretta is, he's a horrible journalist who should be fired because he doesn't know how to write a proper balanced story. I shouldn't have to get three quarters of the way through before I know what the hell you're talking about because you decide to talk about the birds. But anyway, it was an outbreak of West Nile virus. And I guess they're trying to do like vermin control. So it's in... A couple of different cities that they're having to deal with. This story is so stupid. Let's see here. We got a couple of others. A firefighter dressed as Santa battled a two-alarm blaze in Delaware County. That's pretty cool. And, well, we're running out of time. We got to get moving. Stick with us. I went long last segment. Apologies. Back in a moment. Welcome back. Oh, Dana Lashley with you. Bottom of this third hour. All right, I got to set this up. Google has a Christmas campaign. What? it be woke why are people still doing those why stop it they got a campaign of a dude well i'm gonna just watch it i'm sorry i we have to see it you do too watch it so dry this winter dryness is not it especially when i have so many holiday looks to pull off thankfully i know just the thing and it's in stock nearby
SPEAKER 19 :
Hydrated skin is a gift to everyone. No wrapping needed. Happy holidays to me.
SPEAKER 14 :
What in the world is this vaudeville theatrical thing I just watched? This dude is pretending to be a chick. I find his interpretation of what he thinks a woman to be really offensive. I don't like saying offensive because I don't give, it's like not a power. But if you were a sexist pig making fun of women and you were mocking how they behaved, that's how you would act. It's like they're mocking women by trying, what women, what woman, who does that? Oh my God. Who does that?
SPEAKER 07 :
Dylan Mulvaney.
SPEAKER 14 :
And you sound like a weird Donald Duck-ish kind of thing. I'm going to really put the vocal fry. Oh, stop it. So he's wearing women's clothing, complaining about his skin. Maybe it's because you're a dude. I don't know. You have balls. I don't know. Maybe that's why your skin's dry. It's true. Well, Kane, you're objecting to that. But, sir, that's why we're here.
SPEAKER 07 :
It was fine when you said he's a dude. You didn't have to really go any further.
SPEAKER 14 :
I did, because some people need it defined. They don't know what it is. They're like, what is that? I'm like, it's a person with bits. Okay? Like giblets. They got giblets down there.
SPEAKER 07 :
Get free education on the show.
SPEAKER 14 :
We're all about educating the people. We're generous like that. We got a special spot in heaven reserved for us. So... What woman is going to watch that and be like, yes, that man sounds like he's got some authority on this issue? Do they not know how marketing works?
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. Or what woman is going to relate in any way to that?
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, how far should I go with this?
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, no. What do you mean?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, marketing.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
So...
SPEAKER 07 :
That look on your face.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. If I'm watching a man try to sell a product to me, a woman, it's not going to work. Unless it's a car or a gun or a gadget. Anything else, shut up. I'm not going to listen to you. There are certain things I know. If you're trying to sell me a food item, nope. And only on certain guns. By the way, you know, like if I'm seeking knowledge on a gun, I'm OK with or check. But there's just if you're a man and you're trying to tell me about skin care, I'm not listening to you. Maybe I would I will listen to a male dermatologist less than a female dermatologist because she's female. I'm female. Ladies got different needs. All right. Men can turn 80 and still be hot. Women, it's a little different. That's just beauty standards. It's just the way it is. I'm not listening to a dude talk about makeup or skincare or hair care or anything like that. That's not selling me. That is not selling me on anything. What woman watches that dude and goes, oh yeah, I think I want to try that. Who does that? I don't, I don't, that does not appeal to me as a woman. I don't, I don't find that appealing. Like the, the fat chicks and the Vicky secret. I don't buy Victoria's secret, but I can't even tell what those clothes would look like on my body. Everything's so distorted in an unhealthy manner. Morbidly obese manner. No. It's like if I see someone morbidly obese selling leggings on Athleta. Which, by the way, why are certain leggings that are used way more material and a certain size the same cost as leggings that use less material and are a different size? Are the leggings that use less material and of a different size subsidizing the manufacturer and sale of the larger leggings that have more material and use more labor? This is where my mind goes. So I can't... I can't see. It does not resonate with me. A dude selling me stuff does not resonate with me. Joe Biden trying to sell me a gun would not resonate with me. Like you don't know anything about guns. Right. So like you would not watch a baking show hosted by someone who can't bake. For that same reason.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's like going to you for football tips.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's like asking me about football. Right. Sidebar. Somebody did that.
SPEAKER 06 :
What?
SPEAKER 14 :
They didn't know. Someone didn't tell. This poor man. Making small talk. Because you know how you get in a group of people and everybody's talking. And my husband's talking. And his wife is talking. And our other friends are talking. Their friends are talking. We're all having cross conversations. And he's like, so, you know, coming from St. Louis, you know, to Dallas, you know, I guess, you know, were you into the Rams and all this stuff? And I'm like, oh, well, you know, I can, you know, do 30,000 foot. Then he starts getting into some technical stuff. And I have no idea what's happening. I don't know what is going on. Like if it was a plane flying and I had to fly to keep it from crashing, we'd all die. I don't even remember what he asked me. It was something technical. And I just looked at him and I go, is that a position? And I could tell very briefly it hit his face. Like he first thought, did I misspeak? Like maybe I didn't. And then it hit him. No, it's her. She knows nothing about football. It's a deficit what I actually know about football. I think some of the positions are made up. I don't even think they're real. And I'm not going to pretend to like it.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think you call four or five different plays score downs.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, probably.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, even though there's no score happening.
SPEAKER 14 :
I don't even know which way the hell you run on the field. I don't even know.
SPEAKER 10 :
Dana, who do you think should start at quarterback this week for the Falcons?
SPEAKER 14 :
Um... That one guy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Open up your betting app. Hurry. Open up your betting app. She's about to give the answer.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. I don't know. The coldest. I don't know. Mr. To ever do it? Yeah, Mr. To ever do it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Him. Okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
I don't know. Where are they at? I know nothing about football. I don't want to know nothing about football. It's okay. We're all different, right? We're all different. I can tell you about baseball. Can't help you with football. I actually know baseball. Cannot help. I didn't when my kids were playing. I was like, I don't even know what the hell I'm watching. I'm just like, whatever. My kids are like, Mom, why? Like my youngest is, you know, he knows it. He's, you know, gets into the strategy of it. And he's like, it really is like I'm like, that's great. You can sit here and tell me it's like chess a million times. Chess using people. That's great. I still have no idea what's happening. I love that he learned that apart from me. It's great. But it'd be like me telling you football. Well, this is who I think you all need to bet on this weekend. Or this is who you need to root for. If you listen to me, you'd be the dumbest person in the world. I can't even tell you where the Falcons are from. Where are they? What? Yeah, I don't know. It's a type of bird. I can tell you that much. And they're probably black and purple. I don't know.
SPEAKER 07 :
Atlanta would like to have a word.
SPEAKER 14 :
I don't know. Why does Atlanta get Falcons? They need something Atlanta-y. Are there Falcons in Atlanta? I don't know.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm sure.
SPEAKER 14 :
See, this is what happens when you get outside your skill set. This is why you should not have a dude selling women's skincare. You see how uncomfortable that was? That's how us ladies feel. Whenever dudes try to get out there and sell us skincare or sell us makeup or morbidly obese chicks try to sell us lingerie at Vicky's Secret. No! Can't even see some of it on someone.
SPEAKER 07 :
I didn't even feel it fully until you started talking about football.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, see, now you feel it. Now you know what it's like to be mansplained to by a man cosplaying as a woman telling you about lady stuff. Me going, taking you through that valley in football at that low point there. That's what it felt like. That's what it felt like, y'all. Some people think that I'm pretending at not knowing football came. They actually think I'm faking it. Would you like to just really quickly say that that is not the case, in fact?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, that is not the case.
SPEAKER 14 :
It is a legitimate thing.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it is.
SPEAKER 14 :
Somebody offered to, they said you should take an online course about football. And I said I'd rather gouge my eyes out with used toothpicks from a flu-laden buffet. I think I'd rather do that. I'd rather have a gasoline enema than have to watch a thing about football. Sorry, there's just things I don't do. Camping is another. Pretending that you're homeless? No. No. We invented the house. We invented the house and electricity, and I'm not going to pretend. I have good girlfriends and family members who love camping. And I love that you love, I love that for you. I love that you love camping. Not for me. I will go out in nature. I will shoot things, kill it. I will field dress it. I'll do whatever. But when I go to bed, we're going to have hot water and a soft comforter. That's what's going to happen. We're doing that. And we're not going to go dookie in a shed that's built over a poo cave. Not happening. Not doing it. Sorry. I draw the line. Port-a-potties are banned. No. Now you guys know. Now you know. So this, oh, oh. So Lorraine says there's definitely a mothership out there. The Pentagon, quote, there's no so-called mothership launching drones towards the United States. Right. That's exactly what someone hiding the fact that there's a mothership launching drones towards the United States would say. Wait, That's exactly what they would say. Now, I had said, if the drones are all from an Iranian mothership, I'm disappointed because I was hoping for aliens. And literally everyone is going, well, first someone said aliens are not coming to this poo hole planet unless they have saucer trouble. They're going to stay in their little saucers and keep the doors locked. They're not going to get out of here. They're going to be like, oh my gosh, we're in the trashy part of the solar system. We're here with the people who ban things on pancake syrup bottles. And they think that if they tape their male copulatory organs back towards their butts that they're women. That's, you know. You okay? Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
There's a rule in football called the tuck rule, and it has nothing to do with that.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, that's true.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. I'm afraid to look that up.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's new information to me, the tuck rule. Yeah, you just catch a pass, and you have to turn before the fumble doesn't come out, or a complete pass.
SPEAKER 14 :
Catching a pass, wink. All right. Wink? There you go. Sounds like coded language to me.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think the aliens would just call quadruple A. That extra A is for alien.
SPEAKER 14 :
I don't know. I just I was very I don't know. I just said that the Pentagon's like, no, this is not happening. But I I think it is. Sorry, I think you're lying. I'm just going to say, nope, there is. That's what I want. I want Trump gets in right after he's inaugurated. This is what I want to happen. I want him to go up on the stage. You know how they go up on the stage and they do the dance with the First Lady and all that? All right, he can have his dance with Melania. But I want him to go first. All right. So, yes, Iran was launching drones out of a mothership and aliens are real. And we did find Bigfoot. That's all I want to know. And then you can go dance. Just drop that knowledge for me first.
SPEAKER 07 :
All that right there?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, just right there. Right there.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right after the swearing in?
SPEAKER 14 :
You know how helpful it would be to eliminate all the small talk? By just being like, did you hear what POTUS said? Damn, Bigfoot's real. And there's aliens. And also Iranian mothership drones. What? That would be so good. Small talk is horrible at those events. Just saying. And we'd all have something to talk about. So it'd be great. It's what he needs to do. Just a small request. My birthday's next year. And Christmas is coming up, you know. All right. We got more on the way. Live long and prosper. We got more on the way. Charles Barkley is hysterical. I don't know if you guys saw this from inside the NBA, but they had an uncomfortable moment when Jay-Z came up. Watch.
SPEAKER 04 :
You think Jay-Z or... Probably not a good time right now. Or... You're silly, man. You're silly. You're wrong. You're silly, man. You're silly, man. Go see if you can fix the wall, will you, Shaq? Fix the wall, man. Here, back here. Fix the wall, man. I can fix the wall. My point was, you think Kendrick Lamar.
SPEAKER 14 :
He just goes and hides behind that podium. I saw that, I read a story where it said Beyonce made Jay-Z walk the red carpet with Blue Ivy at that Mufasa premiere the day that those accusations dropped. And then everybody started watching that video. I usually don't get into like a lot of the gossip stuff, but I was fascinated when Beyonce's sister just about beat the hell out of Jay-Z in an elevator. I mean, that beefy bodyguard that was in there with him was not about, I mean, he barely could contain that woman. And Beyonce just stood there moving her train here and there. She just stood there in the middle. Didn't. Didn't do nothing. Barely got in between them at one point. She was just standing there watching it. I mean, Solange Knowles was throwing her heels and everything. Like, geez, he needs to fear for his life. He made his wife's sister mad. That's like a person you don't make mad. Something's up. I don't know. But that was from a few years ago. Anyway, I think Charles Barkley's hysterical. He's too funny. All right, so... Before we went to break, we were telling you, we've got today's stupidity. Pentagon's denying the Iranian mothership thing. They're denying it. Today's stupidity, Cain?
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, it's going to be Biden. I mean, there's so much stupidity. The TikTokers and everyone else fawning over... We're going to get the Caitlin Clark stuff tomorrow. That CEO murder. But anyway, it's Biden. His teleprompter goes out, and he just didn't know what to do. This is a common theme with Democrats. Look at this.
SPEAKER 20 :
This is so bad. And, you know, one of the things that's going on here, they just turned off my, I'm going to go on. I lost the electricity here. Anyway, one of the things we found is that, you know, we invented the computer chip, the size of the tip of your little finger.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. Okay. It's time for nappy time, Grandpa.
SPEAKER 14 :
He's just still there. I don't know what he's doing, but he's still there. That does it for us today, folks. I hope you have a great evening. Find us on Substack. Make sure you subscribe to Facebook, YouTube, like and subscribe. Back with you tomorrow.
In this special edition of Washington Watch, join host Jody Heiss as he presents highlights from the 2024 PrayVoteStand Summit. Featuring key discussions with Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey, the episode dives deep into issues of faith, freedom, and governmental challenges. Bailey shares heartfelt stories of his journey, his views on standing up for children against the likes of Planned Parenthood, and insights into his legal battles that aim to protect free speech and uphold biblical principles in a modern America.
SPEAKER 10 :
From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Sitting in for Tony is today's host, Jody Heiss.
SPEAKER 01 :
Good afternoon. Welcome to this special edition of Washington Watch. I'm Jody Heiss, Senior Vice President here at the Family Research Council and President of FRC Action. So happy to be filling in today for Tony and thrilled to have you on board with us as well. Well, the New Year's just around the corner. And what a year 2024 has been. Well, today we want to bring you some special content from our most recent PrayVoteStand Summit. It was absolutely an extraordinary event. Today we're going to share with you two sessions from that summit. One is a session that featured Tony's interview with Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey, frequent on this program. And the second is an encouraging address by the Benham brothers, David and Jason. And like all the speakers did at the summit, Attorney General Bailey and the Benhams hit it out of the park. So we've got a lot coming your way today. If you miss any portion of the program, you can go back and catch it at TonyPerkins.com. And before we jump into it, let me just remind you, tonight is your last chance. The clock is counting down. At midnight is your last chance. You can double your giving to FRC. Please do so by texting the word LIGHT, L-I-G-H-T. Text LIGHT to 67742 and help us take the light of Jesus into the new year. All right, among the sessions at the 2024 PrayVote Stand Summit was the interview that Tony had with Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey. More than the news and the issues, the interview dove into the heart of the Attorney General, who shared with Tony how the Lord led him to where he is today. Here's how Tony got it started.
SPEAKER 07 :
So we're going to have a conversation this morning. And General Bailey, I want to start, I want to go beyond just the policy. And I want to have more of a conversation about your background, because I think it's important to people to know what motivates you, what drives you, and as a Christian, why you stepped into this arena. You're a veteran of the Iraq War. You returned to Missouri. Yes. You returned to Missouri for law school, and we just saw actually two of your professors earlier today. The Hollys were professors of Andrews. And you then stepped into a career as a prosecutor. Tell us a little bit about your journey.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, look, it's a humbling privilege to get to serve in these capacities, to be able to lead soldiers in combat in the Nineveh Province, Iraq, and then again on the banks of the Tigris River, locations with such historical and biblical significance. To come home and be able to go to law school and study under two of the finest legal minds in this country, Josh and Aaron Hawley, who I'm just proud to have had them as my law professors. I was trained by the best, so that has empowered me to be able to do this job at a very high level. And then protecting Missourians, protecting children, enforcing the rule of law. These are principles that I hold dear and enjoyed being a prosecutor, working with law enforcement to find justice for victims every day. My wife and I became foster parents, and we adopted three children out of the foster system. Thank you. We're blessed. We're blessed beyond measure. We've also had a biological child, so it's a zone defense at the Bailey household now, but... A lot of fun. Being a dad's the best thing that's ever happened to me. And I'll tell you, once we had adopted children, I couldn't afford to be an assistant prosecuting attorney anymore. And I went to work at Missouri Department of Corrections the same day our governor took office in June of 2018. He saw me working at DOC. pulled me up to be on his staff, and I just happened to be at the right place at the right time. Clearly, God has a plan for everyone, and was able to, the governor saw fit to appoint me to fill out the unexpired portion of our previous attorney general's term. And it's been a privilege to get to do that, and I feel like we've been fighting and winning for Missourians and all Americans. I like to tell folks, You may not be a constituent, but I can still represent you. And we see that in the work we do in courtrooms across this nation, and it's a privilege to get to do it.
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Andrew, you talk about being in the right place at the right time. The Scripture tells us that the Lord directs our steps. The righteous man, his steps are ordered by the Lord. Talk a little bit about the role of your faith in stepping into this arena and how that gives guidance to what you do.
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It directs and guides everything I do. I pray daily for my heart to be bent to His will. and for people to see his will in the work that I do. The Bible is the inerrant word of God. and the Holy Spirit guides me through the scripture as I study on a daily basis, and that gives me the edification I need to fight back against the enemies of truth, against the enemies of honesty, against the enemies of the rule of law that seek to undermine our system of government. Take the power away from the people. Deny us access to truth. And those fights, you know, Senator Hawley talked about it earlier from this very stage that the battle for the soul of America that wages today. And my battlefield is in the courtroom to fight those fights in the courtroom every day.
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It's one thing to watch from a distance, but it's always different when you step into the role and you're in a public office, you are an elected official. What has been the thing that has surprised you most about stepping directly into that arena?
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You know, the outpouring of affection and accolades and support from people like those of us gathered in this room today, and to know that there are other believers and patriots who value freedom, safety, prosperity, truth, the way that I do. And to see those groups coming together and to hear from them on a daily basis, again, that just gives me a lot of energy as I approach this task every day. I get up in the mornings, three of my kiddos are in school, two in middle school, one in first grade, and then my two-year-old has obviously not started school yet, but I get up and take three of my kids to the bus stop every morning before I go to the office. And again, that just reminds me, that time I get to spend with them reminds me why I do this and why this is an important work because we've got to protect that next generation and protect some of the founding principles that we got to enjoy and be stewards of that and and hand that off to the next generation and that again that that motivates me i want to ask you something you you mentioned this but we we need to speak into government and a lot of times what we see in government's wrong we need to speak into that but when
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Our leaders do the right thing. Is it encouraging to get a note of appreciation and an encouraging note? Does that help?
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It does, Tony. I tell you, we hear all the time from the left-wing progressive media about all the things they think we're doing incorrectly. And so to be able to know that there are individuals whose voices matter to me who are supportive of the work we're doing, again, that is just so fulfilling and energizing from my perspective. And, you know, again, it's not I have a great team around me, a dedicated team of professionals who share the commitment to excellence, the commitment to the values that I hold dear. And so to be able to share those words of encouragement with them, again, it's very energizing for us.
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Proverbs talks about that. A word rightly spoken is like apples of silver in a setting of gold. And I think it's important that we use our words to encourage those who are doing the right thing. So let's talk about some of the biggest challenges you've seen. I mean, you've been taking on Planned Parenthood. I mean, that's like a behemoth of the left of a huge organization. You've been taking them on not only on the abortion issue, but the transgender issue. They have moved into that into a very big way.
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Yeah, look, those are fights that are absolutely worth making to protect children. I want Missouri to be the safest state in the nation for children. And Planned Parenthood is an institution of evil. Make no mistake about it. They care more about the destruction of human life. the destruction of human life than they do the health and safety of women and children. Now, they will always be protected and concealed by the left-wing media who doesn't want you to know the truth. But the lawsuits we have are shining the light of truth and exposing this institution of evil and its destructive ways. Thank you. And it starts with abortion, the destruction of a human life. And it moves to transgender, you know, they want to convince you this is healthcare. There's no healthcare about it. There's no healthcare about it. This is the mutilation of young, innocent children with no science or medicine to back it up. And Planned Parenthood has been on the forefront of that. Other clinics in Missouri have been on the forefront of that. We had a whistleblower come forward that, and Tony, I know you're familiar because you've extensively reported on this, but has exposed this industry of child mutilation. And I've said it before, and I'm proud to say it again. How dare anyone tell those kids God put them in the wrong body? We know he doesn't make mistakes. And so the lawsuits, the investigations. Thank you. Those are how we fight back and try to put a stop to these institutions of evil, protect women and children, and again, shine the light of truth on these issues.
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I have to imagine that you've thought through this, where you see this transgender agenda, this ideology that's being hoisted upon our children, threatening their very future. The public doesn't tolerate tobacco companies selling cigarettes to minors. We don't tolerate the alcohol industry going after me. In fact, we enforce laws against that. We prohibit kids from getting tattoos. Why is this different?
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Because the radical left seeks a truly radical redefinition of God's creation. They want to convince you that gender is a mutable characteristic. I mean, it's a fashion statement in modern culture, but it's one with devastating impacts on a generation of children. So just this week, and I'm proud to announce from this stage, this is the first time I've talked about this publicly, but just this week, my attorneys were in court and we were vigorously defending our state statute to put an end to this gender mutilation of children. So that is breaking news. You heard it first here at the PrayVoteStand Summit. We knew going into this lawsuit that there were zero, zero FDA approvals for the use of puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones, dangerous, powerful chemicals that forever alter children's lives. There were zero FDA approvals authorizing the use of these dangerous chemicals for the treatment of gender dysphoria. That's the mental health disorder that kids... come into these clinics with and say, I'm confused about my gender. And these clinicians, the adults that are supposed to be healthcare providers were pushing these dangerous chemicals and forever altering these children's bodies and getting them addicted to those drugs. And then referring children under 17 years of age for irreversible surgeries to forever alter their bodies. We exposed that, but we went one step further and under vigorous cross-examination, we forced the other side, the ACLU so-called experts to admit that these practices were not based in healthcare science. There were no clinical trials. There were no studies. There were no medical journals. No one on the planet Earth thought that these were medically valid procedures. And we forced them to admit that in open court under oath. And I think we're going to win that case and continue to fight to protect kids. And I'm proud of the work we did this week defending that stuff.
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That was Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey speaking to Tony during the 2024 PrayVote Stand Summit. And you're tuning in to Washington Watch. I'm Jody Heiss filling in today for Tony. And today we're broadcasting special content from the summit that was held in Washington, D.C. this past October. And let me just share with you that if you missed any of that summit or even as you watch some of it today, you would like to revisit, go back and look at more of it, you can do so. But you can only do so if you have our Stand Firm app, which you need to have anyway. So simply go to the App Store or Google Play, wherever in the world it is that you get your apps. Or you can text the word APP, A-P-P, text the word APP to 67742. You will be thrilled to have the Stand Firm app to keep you informed on all sorts of news from a biblical worldview perspective. So be sure to get that. All right, after the break, we'll share the second half of Tony's interview with the Attorney General of Missouri, Andrew Bailey, in which they talk about the Biden administration's collusion with big tech for the purpose of silencing voices that they didn't want to hear during the COVID pandemic, something that the World Health Organization wants to do as well. So much more coming your way today on Washington Watch. Stick around. We'll be back in just a moment.
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Let me ask you, General Bailey, another topic, a case that you teamed up with Louisiana, my home state. went all the way to the Supreme Court, and this was the Biden administration, big tech, in collusion to silence voices that they did not like during COVID and even in the election in 2020. Speak to that issue and what you found in your discovery. Now, I know the court didn't rule the way we had hoped they would, but what did you discover in that process? Tell the folks a little bit about that.
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Well, we exposed government censorship in violation of the First Amendment. I believe that the rights in the Constitution come from God, not man, that the Constitution exists to protect us from the government. It's the role of government to protect our rights. And yet here, what we've exposed, this relationship of coercion and collusion between the federal government at the very top levels of the Biden-Harris White House across a spectrum of federal bureaucratic agencies, coercing big tech social media platforms into silencing your voices. driving you from public discourse. Well, the founding fathers understood that there was supposed to be a free, fair, and open marketplace of ideas where the competition of ideas would allow us, we the people, to determine what is and isn't true. But the Biden-Harris administration has rejected that and said, anyone we disagree with, we get to silence them in the name of misinformation. Who empowered the government to tell us what is and isn't true? The remedy for disfavored speech has always been counter speech, not government censorship. Numerous depositions, 20,000 pages of documents. We exposed it. We took it all the way to the United States Supreme Court. Look, all is not lost. The fight for the First Amendment goes on with renewed vigor. The court said that the state of Missouri and the state of Louisiana had demonstrated that the federal government had violated our First Amendment right to free speech by censoring American voices on Big Tech. They merely found that the evidence only showed that censorship occurred in 2020 and 2021. Well, that's because the case had been pending at the United States Supreme Court and on hold. So the court remanded us back down to the trial court level, and just within the last two weeks, we have commenced merits discovery, where we will use the tools of federal discovery to root out the vast censorship enterprise to restore our right to free speech and free, fair, and open debate. Tony, I want to go back to one other point I made. For folks, look, this is not limited to COVID. COVID was the Trojan horse that got the enemy behind the gates. Anyone that says, oh, well, that was just a once in time because of a pandemic. If we allow a perceived emergency to justify a violation of our constitutional rights, there's no limiting principle and the government will just conjure up a new emergency. So let me submit this to you for consideration. The Bible is the inerrant word of God. It is objective truth. Well, I guarantee you there are big tech oligarchs in Silicon Valley who disagree with me on that point. I guarantee you there are people in the Biden-Harris administration who disagree with me on that point. If they can silence our voices in opposition to failed COVID policies and tyranny, how long until they de-emphasize, de-platform Christian voices who are preaching the gospel? We can't let that happen. That's why this fight is so important.
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Right. Absolutely. And I would just add that a lot of what they were saying was proven false by the critics they silenced, and we now know that to be the case. And we're going to talk more about that this afternoon on a panel on global governance, because the WHO is wanting to do exactly what the Biden administration did during COVID. Final question for you, General Bailey. How can we here and those watching across America be praying for you and your family?
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Pray for strength. Pray for continued conviction on these points. Pray for all of our leaders and that our hearts would be bent to God's will for us and that we would return to being one nation under God. Foundational principles. And, you know, we can have... have that resurgence of faith and belief in our leaders, and we can restore this country to a level of greatness that previous generations have protected and handed down to us. Can I pray for you? Please.
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Join me as we pray for General Bailey. Father, I thank you for Andrew. I thank you for the courage that he has. I thank you for raising him up. for such a time as this. And we pray a blessing upon him. Lord, I pray that he would be yielded completely and totally to the Holy Spirit, protect his wife and his children, give him strength, give him courage, encouragement. And Lord, I pray you would surround him with those that will help hold up his arms as he fights for truth and righteousness protect him physically spiritually politically and that lord continue to bless him give him joy in his heart lord that will be his strength in jesus name amen amen
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That was FRC President Tony Perkins on stage with Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey during the 2024 PrayVote Stand Summit that we had here in Washington, D.C., and you're tuned in to a special edition of Washington Watch. Again, if you missed any portion of that PrayVote Stand Summit, friends, I'm telling you, it's worth going back and watching, and you can do so. If you have the Stand Firm app, you can do so easily. If you don't have the Stand Firm app, you can easily get it. Go to your Apple Store or Google Play or text the word APP to 67742. And again, one more reminder, you have only until midnight tonight. to support FRC and our efforts to bring faith, family, and freedom from a biblical perspective into the new year right here in Washington and beyond. You can give your tax-deductible gift right now before midnight tonight by texting LIGHT to 67742. All right, after the break, we'll share another session from the Pray, Vote, Stand Summit. This one featuring the Benham brothers. Yes, David and Jason were with us. They challenged Christians in America to stand boldly in dark times. And trust me, they themselves have experienced those dark times and those challenges when it's difficult to stand up for Christ and swim upstream when everyone else is going downstream like a dead fish. You don't want to miss what's coming your way next, so stick around.
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Well, good afternoon. Welcome back to Washington Watch. I'm your host Jody Heiss filling in today for Tony and so glad to have you joining us. Today we're broadcasting content from the 2024 PrayVoteStand Summit, FRC and FRC Actions annual gathering of Christian voters from all across America. We've actually been doing this in the days following Christmas. So if you missed any of those, you can go to TonyPerkins.com to see what other sessions were shared. Well, in this coming segment, We're sharing the remarks delivered by the Benham brothers, David and Jason. They drew a lot of attention back in 2014 when their reality TV show on HGTV was abruptly canceled because of their commitment to biblical values. Well, in their remarks, the Benham shared how now, now is the time for Christians to stand boldly in Jesus' name, whatever the cost. Here's David and Jason.
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How many followers of Jesus do we have in this place? i love it we're right at home how many of you want to see god move in the united states of america lord knows we need it you know it's not a political problem ultimately it's not an economic problem it's a spiritual problem now is not a time for followers of jesus to shrink back in fear now is the time for us to stand firm by faith in the powerful name of jesus christ by the way we are identical twins this is my little guy that's my little brother I've been, I'm two minutes older. I've been carrying him like an anchor for 48 long years. You know what? He's the older brother, but he's the only mistake God ever made. When he was born, God looked down and said, whoops, I got to fix that. Cut that out. Hey, no clapping over here. I came along. I'm the do-over. None of that stuff. You know, it's crazy that a lot of that footage, that was 10 years ago. 10 years ago. I mean, this is insane where we've come as a country. And you know, Jason and I, just after we got the axe by HGTV, Glenn Beck called us and he said, guys, I want to have you on my show. So we rolled into Dallas, Fort Worth. We were walking through the airport and we were on all of the CNN show, because multiple CNN shows wanted us. So we were on all the CNN. So these people are trapped in the airport watching the Communist News Network. It's the only people that ever watched CNN. And so here they are watching and looking at Jason and I like, okay, we see him on the news. And now we see him here. And there was this dude standing across the way. He had his arms crossed and he's just looking at us. And Jason's so intimidated. The guy finally walks over to us and he leans in and he looks over his left shoulder and his right shoulder and he whispers, are you guys the Benham brothers? Yeah? And then he whispers, thanks for your stand and took off. I mean, 10 years ago, Home Slice did not wanna be seen with guys like us. And how many of you know that that is happening to people of faith today? You know, the radical left, at first, they wanna marginalize our faith, but then they target, targetedly demonize our faith. But I'm telling you, if the Democrats have their way, they will criminalize our faith. And the question is, are we gonna stand? Or are we gonna run? I say we're gonna stand. What do you guys say? You know, the problem today is not the presence of darkness. It's the absence of light. I don't have a dark switch in my house. When he goes to bed at night, he doesn't ask his wife to turn the darkness on. Or whenever you open the closet door, all the darkness from the closet does not come and fill the room. It's not the nature of darkness. You know, darkness cannot overcome the light. We are the light of the world and the salt of the earth. You know, when God, when he tells us that we are to shine our light, you know what it does? It does two things. On the one hand, it reveals your good deeds. That's Matthew 5, 16. Let your light so shine before men that they may see your good works. That's right. That's what we do as believers. We do good works. We're out there loving our families and running our businesses and leading our communities, and we're stepping in in Asheville. We're in Charlotte. We're doing what we can because that's what we do. We're believers, but at the same time, it doesn't just reveal your good deeds. Guess what else it does? It exposes the world's evil deeds. Jesus said in John chapter three, darkness hated the light because it exposed that its deeds were evil. And today is so easy for us to just dim the light so that everybody can get along and we can be cool. And our income, our image, and our influence as celebrity preachers matter more to us than standing for truth. And God is now calling the remnant of believers stand on the Word of God, like Jack Hibbs and Votie Bauckham and Andrew Brunson just did. But you know what? In the church today, we've got the wrong idea of light. How many of you grew up singing the song, This Little Light of Mine? Right? There's a verse in there that says, don't let Satan... I heard somebody over here go, pfft, it out. But you gotta be careful, because if you're Baptist, that could lead to dancing. And we know Baptists don't shake that leg. Sinners. No, they don't. But when we sing that song, the image of the type of light that we need to be, the image that comes to mind is the image of a candle, right? Don't let Satan blow it out. That's the kind of light we're supposed to be. Well, that's not gonna work in today's cancel culture, because what happens to the light of a candle when the wind comes along and blows on it? It goes out. We need to replace the image of a candle with the image of a coal, like the burning ember inside of a fire pit. What happens when the wind comes along and blows on that? You see the difference? The candle's light, the same wind that would blow the candle's light out actually ignites the coal's light. The candle is lit from the outside, the coal burns from the inside. The great prophet Jeremiah said, your word is like a fire shut up in my bones and I am weary of holding it in. Do you know how God gets the light that's in you out into the world? Do you know how he does it oftentimes? He puts you in situations and around people where they try to extinguish the light that's in you. And if you've been stoking the fires and the coals of the Holy Spirit inside, alone in prayer, alone in studying the scripture, and you've been doing those things, then guess what? The very act of them trying to extinguish the light is the very thing that will ignite it. And the beauty is you don't even have to try to shine your light. You just have to buckle up and watch yourself burn.
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That was David and Jason Benham speaking at the 2024 PrayVote Stand Summit back in October. And you're tuned into a special edition of Washington Watch. Again, if you missed the summit or you want to revisit it, you can get our Stand Firm app. If you don't already have it, simply text the word APP to 67742. All right. After the break, we'll share the conclusion of the Benham Brothers session. It's powerful. Don't go away. We'll be back.
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Hello, I'm Tony Perkins, President of the Family Research Council here in Washington, D.C. Behind me is one of the most recognizable buildings in all the world, the U.S. Capitol. What does it stand for? Well, most people say government. But do you know the Bible talks about four institutions of government? Do you know what they are? And do we have a republic or a democracy? Well, what do you say? Also, what about this thing, separation of church and state? Does that mean Christians shouldn't be involved in government? Guess what? We address those issues and more in our new God and Government course. I invite you to join us to see what the historical record and the Bible has to say about government. Join us for God and Government.
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Let's not be discouraged. Don't lose heart. Don't lose the faith. Stand now strong because the Lord has given us the great privilege of living in a time when our choices matter, when our lives matter, when our courage matters. So let's stand together and save this great country. God bless the United States of America.
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The American Republic has a freedom like no other. It has roots in the scriptures. far more than any other heritage. And if we as followers of Jesus and conservatives don't defend it, who will?
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Neutrality is not an option. There are many Christians who believe that if we just keep our heads down, if we just don't say the wrong thing, that somehow we will come out of this unscathed. You're naive if you think that, because what they want from us is not our silence. What they want from us is our submission.
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Part of the dilemma of Christianity in our generation is that we've relied a little too much on human wisdom and human reasoning, human strength, human resource, and we've relied too little on the power of God and God's ability to open doors that we can't open and do things that we couldn't even hope to begin to do.
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This may not be an easy task, But we are living in a moment of challenge, but also a great opportunity. And we know always that we are not alone, that His Spirit empowers us and protects us. and that he could do the unimaginable. Dobbs, after all, was never supposed to have.
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Father, we thank you. You have entrusted us with this moment in history, and I pray that we would be found faithful, and that as a result of our faithfulness to you, that thousands, millions would come into the kingdom as they would experience the forgiveness of sin and the new life that is found only in Jesus Christ. Amen.
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Well, good afternoon. Welcome back to Washington Watch. I'm your host, Jody Heiss, filling in today for Tony. And thanks so much for tuning in to this special edition. We've been playing some highlights from the 2024 PrayVote Stand Summit that was held in Washington, D.C. Sure hope you've been enjoying these. And to close out today's special edition, we're going to finish up with a session at the 2024 Prevost Stand Summit featuring the Benham brothers, David and Jason. In this last part, they're going to recall what happened to them a decade ago and what they learned from the HGTV controversy. It's powerful. Here's how they got started.
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Jason and I want to tell you a little bit about our story and the context and some very important stuff that we learned in the middle of that whole HGTV story. You know, we graduated high school. We went to Liberty University. We played baseball out of Liberty. We got drafted. I was drafted by the Red Sox. He was drafted by a lesser organization. You've probably never even heard the Baltimore Orioles. Oh, yeah. See, they like the Orioles. David's the only player in Red Sox history, actually Major League history, to play tailback in baseball. He'd run on the field, and coach said, get your tail back on the bench. Stop that. Why are you clapping? Man in the purple shirt, clapping. You know, we never made it to the big leagues. We were minor league guys, and we learned that when God gives you something, you got to hold it with an open hand. You don't wanna grip it with white knuckle tenacity, because when he wants to remove it and put something better there, he's gonna have to pry your fingers back. Now that's a spiritual way of saying we couldn't hit a curve ball, but either way, it works. We did not get that platform that we thought we were gonna get. I just knew I would hit the game winning home run in the bottom of the ninth of the World Series. Jason would come off the bench, greet me at the plate, and it was gonna be amazing. But it never worked out that way. We had to hold that with an open hand. Well, we got out of baseball. We had young families. We moved to Charlotte, North Carolina. We were raised by a pastor dad in Dallas, Texas. So we had no business training, but we said, Lord, We want to apply the principles of the Bible to our business. And we built our first real estate company to 100 offices across 35 states. And at the height of our company, in 2012, a production company comes to us and says, do you guys want a reality show? We said, yeah, sure, let's give it a shot. So in 2013, they put a commercial together, took it to LA. Five networks wanted us. The first offer we got was from TLC. They wanted us to do a show called Twinning. I still have no idea what that show was all about, because in the middle of negotiating with them, We got a call from the general manager of HGTV in 2013, and she said, we just signed this family out of Waco by the name of Chip and Joanna Gaines. We're gonna give them a one-hour pilot for a show called Fixer Upper. We wanna give you guys six one-hour episodes for a show called Flip It Forward. And we wanna take Fixer Upper and Flip It Forward and raise it to the top of the network. And so we said, okay, we're gonna sign with HGTV. But how many of you know that faith that isn't tested can't be trusted? Oh, I'm in good hands. I'm in with good people here because you guys understand that. You see, before HGTV ever found us, David and I were very vocal about God's ways are best in business. God's ways are best, you know, whenever you're out there building a business. But at the same time, we saw some of the craziness that was going on in culture. specifically back when Obama switched his position on marriage back in 2012. And David and I were very vocal about these things, specifically on marriage and life. When it came to marriage, we said, hey, listen, God defined marriage. Man, if you remove the man-woman ingredient, like one man, one woman, if you remove one of those two ingredients from marriage, you're not left with marriage. That would be like removing chocolate from brownies. You're left with blondies, and real men don't eat those. No. They don't. No way. And then when it comes to pro-life, we were raised by Pastor Dad, like what you heard the panel up here talking. It's not just another issue. It's the issue. Because any time that God plans for deliverance, Satan counteracts that with destruction. And we see that in the Scripture. Remember, the children of Israel, they're enslaved in Egypt. They cried out for a deliverer, and God sent them a baby. Right? His name started with an M and ends with Osis. Right? Moses, he sent him in the form of a baby at the same time. See, God sent a baby to be a deliverer at the same time. What was the plan that Satan hatched in Pharaoh's mind to do with the babies? Kill the babies. A couple thousand years later, it was time for God to send the ultimate deliverer, the one that everybody had cried out for, and he sent his own son. In what form did he send him? Amen. A baby, what was the plan hatched in Herod's mind at the exact same time? Kill the babies. So it's always about life. And both sides are missing it now. I hate that, but both sides are missing it. So David and I were vocal about these things. And it changed the narrative about us online. This is back in 2010, 11, 12. We became bigots, haters, right wing, everything-a-phobic. Because you know that that's what happens when you stand for truth, is that you're smeared online. So when HGTV signed us to our letters of intent, I remember the attorneys at HGTV discovered this online narrative and started pushing back a little bit. And I felt fear. I remember getting a phone call from our production company and she said, hey, the attorneys are pushing back a little bit, guys. We're gonna have to work through this. And I felt fear when she was talking to me because I didn't want to lose this platform. HG said they're gonna put us in millions of homes. And we were excited to shine the light of Christ into millions of homes. And now that was threatened. But I remember saying a quick little snap prayer and God gave me just the right thing. I said, you know, we're not anti-anything regardless of what some of these labels may say. We're pro-Jesus and that makes us pro-Bible. We believe that God's blessings are found inside of God's boundaries. And if we really love people, we don't just talk about the blessed life. We gotta talk about the boundaries you need to stay inside of in order to get those blessings. Because that's what we do with our kids, don't we? If you remove the boundaries, blessings are replaced with burdens. You wanna know what her response was? She said, oh, that's good, because almost all of us at the production company, everybody that I know at HGTV, and even your agents, who were the Kardashians agents. We did not know that when we hired them. Yes. But listen, she said, even your agents out of Beverly Hills believe just like you guys do, but none of us are willing to talk about it. You see, because that's the stronghold. When our greatest communicators, so many pastors today, would be enslaved by their congregations and they would not speak the truth. And I praise God for the pastors that do. We just saw some of them. Right? So, yes, that deserves an applause. We try to tell them, listen, your platform is not just a stage for you to stand on. It's an altar for you to burn on. You've got to lay down and burn like a living sacrifice. Well, I'm all big talk because whenever I had that time where that production company called, I felt fear. Like I knew what it felt like in that moment to maybe just back up just a little bit. Well, I spoke that to her and she said, we believe just like you guys do, but none of us are willing to talk about it. And I remember hanging up the phone, and it was a great conversation. I thought, whew, dodged a bullet there. Two weeks went by. Didn't get a phone call, email, text, nothing from HGTV, our agents, or the production company. And I honestly thought we were getting dumped. And I had never been dumped before. I had to go to him for advice. I'm like... How's this work, man? I mean, this is new territory for me. We're all 14 years old living in Dallas, and I walk in the bedroom, he's bawling his eyes out, listening to REO Speedwagon. I can't fight this feeling any longer, man. If you're under 40, you don't even know who REO Speedwagon is. Yeah, you should Google him. Thank me later. I remember telling David, I said, I think we're gonna lose the show. And he said, I feel the same way. So we got down on our knees and said this prayer. Something sounded like this. God, would you please give us a show? Do you have any idea what we're gonna do for you if you give us a show? Right, in the middle of that prayer, God gave me an idea. Let's write HGTV an email. At least I thought God gave me this idea. Let's write this email to HGTV and try to save our show. So he wrote it, I read it, and I was like, oh, this is gonna work. Here's what it basically said. HG, these are our beliefs, and we're never gonna back off of those. Oh, don't get too excited yet. However, when we represent your network in public, we'll be quiet about them. Now, don't you judge me. He wrote it. Oh, come on. You told me to write it. He wrote it and I approved it. And here's the scariest part. Follow me. We both felt a peace about it. But that was a false peace because in that moment we were operating out of a fear of man rather than a fear of God. Why? Because we were focusing on that platform we didn't want to lose rather than the person who put it there in the first place. And anytime you focus on that thing that God has given to you and he wants you to have it, anytime you focus on that thing and you wrap your fingers around it, you're now enslaved by that thing. There's your new master. That's your idol. You're deaf, blind, and dumb, and you don't even know it. David and I started operating strategically in the mind, no longer spiritually in the heart, because we were working for God, no longer with God. Now, we had enough spiritual upbringing to know don't send it to HG right away. Let's send it to a spiritual mentor of ours and see if he could agree with us. So we kinda went through the list. We picked a pastor friend that we thought would agree with us. We knew not to send it to our dad. We knew what he would say. We sure as heck weren't gonna send it to Tony Perkins. So we sent it to this pastor friend of ours, and you know what? Within three minutes, he sent an email back. He said, how dare you boys write an email like this? This isn't who you are. How do you know that God isn't raising you both up for a time just like this? Not to have a reality show, but to tear down a stronghold that's keeping Christians silent about things that matter. He said, you don't need to click send. You need to get on your knees and repent. And that's exactly what we did. And we knew what Peter must have felt when he promised Jesus to his very face, I'll never deny you. And that night he did it three times. You see, boldness apart from brokenness makes a bully. God had to break us of our man-pleasing spirit, of our fear of man, before he put us on the stage to stand bold. And we discovered from that that the secret to courage is first recognizing your inner coward, but then allowing the Holy Spirit to unleash your inner lion. So let me wrap this story up. After that two-week period of time, we get a random phone call from the executive producer and he said, are we gonna start filming or what? This is in the spring of 2014. We were like, absolutely. They brought the crew from Waco. They start filming. We get into a 10-week film shoot. We get five weeks in and at the end of the fifth week, the general manager calls us and says, guys, I've got great news. This was at 9 p.m. at night. She said, I have great news. All the endorsements, all the advertisers are calling in. Disney World wants to be featured on one of the episodes. We've got automotive manufacturers all want you in their vehicles. This is going to be great. But there's an activist group out of California that called us. And then she went through this whole litany of things. They do not want you to have a show. But don't worry, she said to us, we believe the two of you and your families, you're going to be stars on this network. Okay, that felt great. Well, the next morning we wake up and we're getting texts from friends across the country. Hey, what's up with your show? I don't know, we're gonna be stars. That's really all we know. They said, have you seen HGTV's Facebook page? No. So we went to the Facebook page. There were about four or five million people on that page, and it said right at the very top, one sentence, we are reviewing the Benham Brothers show. And underneath it, hundreds of comments, the most disgusting comments about us and our families, our wives and kids. It was crazy. We were like, what on earth happened? Well, that activist group didn't like the fact that HG was gonna stick with us, so they tapped their good friend, right wing watch on the shoulder. They said, write a new article about the brothers. And by this point, we were public figures, so they can smear us all they want. You see that in today's mainstream media. And they just wrote a whole bunch of nonsense about us and then started to mobilize their network. And this was 10 years ago. They started mobilizing and then just bombarding HGTV and all their social media handles right through the night that by 6 a.m. that next morning, HG had posted that one sentence. Well, we didn't know what was gonna happen that day. We had a 10 a.m. call time for the set. So we went to the set and we're getting mic'd up and I got a text from the GM and said, hey, can you and your brother hop on a quick conference call with me and two executives out of Scripps, New York? So Jason and I went and found a quiet place and we put it on speakerphone right out of the gate. Guys, we're canceling the show. Well, after I got Jason out of the fetal position, knocked the thumb out of his mouth, the first word that came to my mouth was thank you for believing in us. And I said, you just got bullied into this, and we are not about to back down now. And I remember, the next two weeks, we were on 200 one-on-one interviews. All the CNNs and the Foxes, O'Reilly's producer and Hannity's producer were fighting over which one was gonna come on, and then Good Morning America was in the living room. The next thing you know, we're on TMZ, Nightline, and then Bill Maher wanted us on HBO. So we were on HBO with Bill Maher. He said we were the nitwit twin brothers that believe the same dumb book that millions of Americans believe. You know what an honor it is to be called a nitwit for Jesus? You know, here's what we learned in the middle of all of that. We don't fight for victory, we fight from it. The battle's already been won, but God wants us to stand. Just like Jack Hibbs says, whether our heart ruptures or we get raptured, either way, we're gonna stand. And when Jesus says, do not prepare beforehand what to speak, when you are drugged before magistrates and kings, then I will fill you with my Holy Spirit. We can rest assured, guys, and be filled with hope that the Holy Spirit, when we choose to stand, the Holy Spirit is gonna be right there with us. So right now let's stoke the fires of God's word in our heart. Let's stoke the fires of biblical community because cold separated soon die out. Let's tie in, let's lock in, let's begin discipling. Let's love our spouses even when it's hard. Let's raise our children, let's tip our servers. Let's be God's people and shine God's light. Now is not a time for us to shrink back in fear. Now is a time for us to stand firm by faith. You know, this moment that we're in is not new to the church. I wanna give you a quote before I even read this scripture. Dr. Elton Trueblood, who was the former chaplain for both Harvard and Stanford universities in the early 1900s, he was asked later in his life, in the 50s, what's it gonna be like for the church in America in the last part of the 20th century? Listen to what he, in the later part of this century, he said, by the year 2000, he said this, this was like 50 years ago, by the year 2000, Christians in America will be a conscious minority surrounded by an arrogant, militant paganism. And that's exactly where we are today. So what are we supposed to do? Well, let's look at Acts 4.29. They were surrounded by an arrogant, militant paganism. Look at how the disciples prayed. And now, Lord, take note of their threats and grant that your servants may continue to speak your word with great boldness. Now is the time to be bold and take a stand in Jesus' name. God bless you guys.
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We are taking your calls to 1-800-684-3110. As you can see, different place, different color background. We're traveling, but we are still working and busy here at the American Center for Law and Justice. Happy New Year's Eve. This is such a critical day for us at the ACLJ, so I wanted to be with you live and absolutely just let you know why this is such a critical day. This is the day of the year, this final day of the year, where we usually raise the most money from you, our donors, in a single day. And so it's so important because this is the final day to take part in our triple match. And what that means is if you donated $1,000 to the ACLJ as part of your year-end giving, that would be the equivalent of $3,000 to the American Center for Law and Justice. But if you could only give $20 right now, that would be $60 donated to the American Center for Law and Justice. And I want to just take you inside that for a bit. That $60 would still be more than our average donation for the year, which is somewhere between $50 and $55. So don't think that your $20 isn't worth it to the ACLJ, and especially when we're doing a matching challenge like this. And it's why I'm coming to you from different colored backgrounds all over the country while we travel. And we'll just letting people know what we're working through, of course, through these holiday time periods and then kicking off the new year, the Speaker of the House getting elected, And I also want to talk about what is the biggest kind of news today is that the Florida case is the classified documents case out of that crazy raid at Mar-a-Lago that I think was just stunk. And from the start, Will, it's over.
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That's right. As you saw the headline, if you're just tuning in, Jack Smith has transferred the Mar-a-Lago documents case to the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of Florida. So Jack Smith is gone. Hit the road, Jack. That's over. We have been following this for way too long, and now we are seeing resolution. That is for the other defendants, the co-defendants, along with President Trump. Remember, President Trump's charge in that case was thrown out. by Judge Eileen Cannon because she ruled that the special counsel was not authorized by the Constitution. So it also set up a district court ruling that could cause trouble for the Department of Justice using special counsels in the future so they also have a little bit of a a point here jordan where they're trying to figure out how to move forward all of this has been transferred to the southern district of florida the federal prosecutors there as opposed to the special counsel's office but now they will need to decide whether or not the appeal that's ongoing in the circuit court will need to be also withdrawn because they were appealing that ruling that would say, no, actually special counsels are constitutionally able to go forward. So the special counsel's office is no longer involved, but the Justice Department will need to decide what to do as it moves forward there. And with new leadership at the Justice Department, I think we could see some changes going on there in the new year as well, Jordan.
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Yeah, I'd have to look at the legal kind of surroundings by this. And of course, this would be a decision ultimately up to the next Attorney General of the United States, our good friend, Pam Bondi. And it's nice to be able to just say that to you right now. What a change it's going to be for that level of work that we do at the American Center for Law and Justice to have someone we've worked with so long taking that position. And we're going to fight for her confirmation. But in a sense, I wonder if there's a legal mechanism for them to withdraw their challenge and accept that position. They may need that to go to the U.S. Supreme Court so it's not just that district. But I think you could see the end of a special counsel potentially, depending on the legal rules of that jurisdiction. We'd have to look into it. In fact, I'm telling my team right now who are watching and listening, let's try to get an answer on that before we're off the air today about what options would be available to the Trump bondi department of justice we're taking your calls 1-800-684-3110 do you want to see the end of these special counsels that aren't again they don't get the advice that gets said of the president and the of the senate that is give us a call 1-800-684-3110 Welcome back to Seculo. I think this is a great way to finish out 2024. Not only do we have an incoming president who shares our values, but talking about these department heads that we're going to have to fight for their confirmations. We know those battles are coming up, whether it's Pete Hegseth for DOD, our colleague Tulsi Gabbard, who is, again, even a lot of Republicans, those moderate Republicans, are afraid of someone who wants to shake up the way our intelligence works so that we're not abusing the Constitution, even disregarding the Constitution, and utilizing all those foreign provisions to actually spy on Americans. I can't think of a better person than Tulsi Gabbard to be in that position. We had Rick Grinnell, our colleague, go in there to make sure that they were classifying things correctly and not keeping things from the American public just because they wanted to keep everything a secret. And so he went in to declassify the info that had no business being classified from the American people. And we've got to keep that going. The swamp hasn't been drained. So this is the critical day. For us, Will, this is the day we raise the most money of the year. I'm never usually that bold about just saying money, but that is the truth. And usually it's over a million dollars, closer to $2 million that we raise in just this one day. Now, when your average donation is about $50 to $60, that is everybody watching this or listening to this, whether we're live right now or it's sometime before midnight where you are tonight, your donation of any amount is tripled. So that $50 that you have, and you're going through some year-end giving to your church, to other organizations you care about, if you're in that financial position to give, that $50 is $150. That's triple our average donation. That's how we can get to that number over time. $1.5 million, closer to $2 million. And what does that mean? We never have to say no. If we have to take on a Jack Smith, we take on a Jack Smith. If we have to take on high-profile clients, we have a way to handle that. You are supporting a team that has, again, gotten a president of the United States acquitted by the US Senate after being impeached by the House, a team that has represented the United States and Israel at the International Criminal Court, But also that same team who defeated Mueller as well. And the Mueller investigation, another special counsel we had to deal with. So, folks, I think we have a lot of knowledge when it comes to that. I want to take your calls about it. 1-800-684-3110. Do you think that there should be special counsels when we have U.S. attorneys all over the country with big staffs who could certainly do this job? There's really, again, we've seen the abuse of it when it comes to President Trump. even the opposite of abuse when it came to President Biden, when they said, oh, well, you know, he did all these crimes, but he's too old to ever sit down. Now, again, he's a sitting president. They weren't going to be able to bring charges anyways. But the difference in treatment, you know, if he can be president of the United States, probably has to have the cognitive ability to, again, stand trial. This president coming in, President Trump, around the same age, has had to do that. Think about those hours and hours he has spent in courtrooms, the way they trashed Mar-a-Lago, all using your taxpayer dollars for nothing. But when you're donating to the ACLJ, you are donating to the team that has beaten Mueller, that has beaten back impeachment attempts. And we want to represent you with just the same talent. Now, how do I do that? I have to have a lot of resources available to us at the American Center for Law and Justice. Our teams, whether put together by my dad, put together by me, put together by Logan, or other senior attorneys that we have at the American Center for Law and Justice, we add attorneys, we contract with attorneys as needed. So even in very complicated, big cases, always contact us at aclj.org slash help. 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That's why you support the American Center for Law and Justice. You are part of that team. Whether you give $50 today, and that's like $150 to us, Your $10 donation is $30. Think about that. But a $25 donation right now to the ACLJ being worth $75 to us right now, that's more than our average gift. Will, that is how we are able to take on these huge cases and at the same time represent a nurse for her conscience rights or a family and a kid who can't pray privately on a track team at a public school.
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That's right, Jordan, and I kind of want to draw a contrast there because if you think about this year, 2024, and what a pivotal year it was and where we were at this point last year as we were waiting to hear just a few days from now that the Supreme Court would take the 14th Amendment case. It was something we were fighting throughout the fall of 2023 as the state started to mount these challenges to President Trump being on the ballot. But when you think about that, about what... The ACLJ stood for us. We represented the state parties in many states, but the one that ultimately got to the Supreme Court, which was the Colorado challenge after just in mid-December of 2023, the Supreme Court of Colorado upheld the ban of President Trump being on the ballot. But if it weren't for the legal team of the ACLJ, What a different year this would look like because the radical left and the cronies that had this plan hatched to keep someone off the ballot that millions of Americans were voting for or planning to vote for in the upcoming primaries, then... the American people's right to vote for the candidate of their choice would be taken away. And for all the talk of defending democracy that we heard from the Democrat Party, they didn't mean real democracy. They didn't mean the people choosing. We saw that play out when they swapped their candidate from Joe Biden to Kamala Harris. They mean the right for you to vote for the person they want you to vote for. What a different year we would be in right now and different place we would be in if it weren't for the work of the ACLJ over this last year. But now you look forward and you know that these fights will continue on and it takes outside organizations from government. To continue that fight, to lay the groundwork, to do the FOIA request, to point the administration in the right direction, to fight at the state and local level. When you hear a word like this from one of our clients, this was a grandmother and her granddaughter were kicked out of the National Archives for wearing pro-life attire. This was her quote about our representation. The ACLJ and their wonderful and caring attorneys stood up to them for us. ACLJ sent a loud message that pro-life individuals would not be pushed around in our government buildings. Please support the ACLJ's great work protecting our rights. And that's just one testimonial of the client that received legal help at no charge to them. When you think about the vastness of the work of the ACLJ and what it's going to take in this next year to continue these fights, that is a sign to you right now. Go donate. Have your donation tripled. And Jordan, we've talked about this Jack Smith thing. We see in these reports that one, President Biden thought he could have won if he stayed in. But also, he was frustrated that he picked Merrick Garland because he didn't think Merrick Garland went after Trump hard enough. Of all the cases that Trump had before him, two federal cases from the special counsel, one in Florida, one in DC, all the state cases, Georgia, New York on multiple levels. And Biden didn't think his attorney general went after president Trump hard enough. I think that tells you everything you need to know about the legacy of the Biden administration and what we need to clean up in the year ahead.
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Yeah, I mean, it's the legacy of the deep state. They dirty you up. They are really, their goal is not to put you behind bars. They'd love to, but their goal is just to dirty you up when it matters during election time. Are they trying, you know, they're dropping all of this without a fight. There are still a lot of bad bureaucrats inside the Department of Justice who could still make, I think, cause trouble if they wanted to. Certainly in the future they can. And President Trump has got to get his team and Pam Bondi. It's not just about getting her through as Attorney General, and that's going to be great. But she's got to get her team in place so that those bureaucrats have real bosses and get them under control because we've seen the problems they can cause on their own. But putting in people like Jack Smith and Bob Mueller and this idea that, oh, we can make it fair by also investigating Biden, but he's just too old to actually do anything with. He'll just get up in front of the stands and look like somebody who doesn't know where he is. That's great for a president of the United States. Support the work of the ACLJ today. This, again, is such an important time of year for our country, for our nation as we prepare to inaugurate the next president of the United States, for so many of our colleagues who are up for cabinet positions and other major positions. We could change the United States and our country in these four years, but we're going to need your help to make that change lasting. So donate today at the ACLJ until midnight tonight. Your donation is tripled. This is the biggest day of the year for us. Be part of our team. Donate ACLJ.org. Talk to us on the air. We are live this New Year's Eve, and I hope you've had a great year. And if it's been a tough year of political battles, well, guess what, folks? Time to put those big boy pants on again because we've got more battles ahead. Now that we have won the races and won those elections, we have to get the people in place, not just the president sworn in or the vice president, but their cabinet. and each one is going to be a battle. And Will, I want to talk about that story, China hacking the Treasury Department, which has all of our financial information on individuals. I mean, it has everything. This is the organization, the department in the government that oversees the IRS, that oversees the printing of the US dollar and our money. So when you hack into their system successfully, You can compromise every single American, whether you're talking about a president down to someone who is a butler at the White House and everyone in between. They are all exposed. And we now believe they've all been exposed to our probably number one adversary. They're not yet a full on enemy because the amount of trade that we do and the reliance we have on each other, but especially the reliance we unfortunately have on China to produce goods and will because of that. We're kind of limited right now in how we can respond to China. That's why in these next four years, we've got to be able to get off of China. You know what I mean? So it's great when we can work together. That'd be wonderful as a better system. But we have got to get ready and do the hard things in America to make sure we could exist just like we do today with all of the technology and be able to build it here in the United States. Don't let China buy every mine in Africa. They are currency manipulators. We have the money to do it. Let's do it. Let's get more active. Let's make sure we have the access to the materials. Why on earth are we letting the Chinese beat us there? It's because you have half of Washington, D.C., or more, Will, thinks they're our friends, thinks that we can work with them on a friendly relationship. They see all these moves as a strategic way to take down the US superpower that we are in the world. And I don't think we've been weaker ever to an attack like that, which is not a physical military attack, but is an attack on our entire financial institution. And so they want to prove by doing that, that they're actually the superpower in the world. So again, another reason why to support the American Center for Law and Justice. We're not just active in the United States. We're active all over the world. Some countries I can tell you about, some I can't to protect those who are working there. But one that I can tell you about, places like Pakistan, where a former prime minister is in prison and a lot of people are calling for his release. And I will tell you, in the two years he was president, the persecution issues, yes, they still existed. But if we got to his team, they were handled much more quickly than the current administration in Pakistan. And we have those, you know, like our client who's on death row since they were 16 years old. So many of the cases the ACLJ does, our European affiliate, the ECLJ does, our office in Pakistan, Jerusalem, you know, Jeff Balaban. A lot of these cases, I know it's hard to kind of imagine in the United States will, but a lot of these cases we do are life or death. I mean, this is not just protecting people's rights to talk or have a belief. This is whether or not they will be executed tomorrow or not.
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That's right, Jordan. And as you look at this story that comes out of the New York Times, it says China hacked the Treasury Department in a major breach, the U.S. says. And it raises so many questions at the end of this administration about cybersecurity, of our most important government institutions, about the weakness of the Biden administration, about the fears of the Chinese government. Communist Party about the incoming presidency of Donald Trump. But I have Professor Harry Hutchison here with me. And one, it also makes me very glad that politicians like Tim Walz are not going to be the sitting vice president because of their ties to China and their views on them as not really being an adversary. But Professor Hutchison, with this This news late in the year, right here at the end of the year, what was your take when you saw this attack? The Chinese said they don't sponsor or support any sort of hacking, but our intelligence assessments tell us differently.
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Well, number one, we should never believe the Chinese. They are long-term enemies to American interest. That's number one. Number two, the United States is increasingly vulnerable to the Chinese, in part because so many American government workers work remotely. Therefore, they're tied to unencrypted servers, just like Hillary Clinton. And that means that we are even more vulnerable. So I think it's clear beyond question that the United States is at war with China, Russia, and Iran within the realm of intelligence. And so I think it's very important to keep in mind that the incoming administration, the Trump administration, is increasingly aware of our vulnerability and we need to take immediate action. Number one, we need to ensure that government workers return to government offices and start using encrypted servers. That would help. And then number two, we should take action against China. We should take action against Iran and any other hostile players out there. And I think Jordan is absolutely correct. We have to begin to look out for America's long-term interest. And I think with the Biden administration, the Biden administration has been overtly focused on whom? On Ukrainian interests, on Chinese interests, on the Biden family's capacity to engage in grift. And so I think it's very, very important that we have adults in the room with the Trump-Vance administration.
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And Jordan, I think also it tells us why one of our early fights in 2025 will be to get Tulsi Gabbard confirmed as the Director of National Intelligence. When you have a big intelligence problem like a hack of the Treasury Department, you need change there very quickly. Right.
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Right. I mean, I want to remind people that Tulsi, if she is confirmed in this position, will be briefing the President of the United States, President Trump, every morning on the threats to the United States and new intelligence. So imagine that an ACLJ colleague, former Democrat, who we have worked with before in the past, along the way, when we see that she is beginning to speak out more, do a little bit more media, we say, hey, can you join us a couple of times a week and join the ACLJ in the secular broadcast? And she's been a great team member here at the ACLJ because I think where she is on these issues is where so many of our supporters are, is that we have to question these institutions, that we cannot just accept that the vast majority of the intelligence community is out to do good and that we should just let them do their job and never look in and never change things and never maybe look at the laws that allow those institutions and agencies to quickly, in a secret court, treat you differently. Now, you're not going to be able to handle full FISA court reform in a day on Capitol Hill, and there's pressures to do that. We've got to have the time. We need the time so that we replace those kind of institutions that are so important with ones that actually work, that keep us safe, both from our enemies, but also our own government's bad actors. Donate today, our biggest, most important day of the year. Be part of our team, ACLJ.org. We need your donation. I can't say it any more closely. We've got to hit our goals to be ready to fight. ACLJ.org. Donate. Have your donation tripled till midnight tonight.
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Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever. This is Seculo. And now your host, Jordan Seculo.
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All right, welcome back to Seculo and our second half hour of the broadcast, folks, on what is a very important day for us. First of all, happy New Year's Eve. We've made it through what was a tumultuous few political years, to say the least. Again, I look back, I can't even believe. how long it was when we were standing there defending President Trump from his first impeachment, the ridiculousness of that, but also the seriousness of it, from the Mueller investigation and all those bad actors who came right back and their deputies still trying to put our next president behind bars or at least dirty him up so it would impact our elections. And that is why when we go to battle after and as President Trump takes the oath of office in a few weeks, and his cabinet members' choices begin their nomination hearings, I want you to know this. This is the next round of the battle. The first battle is winning, okay? So getting the people there like President Trump. But then he has to get his team in. You have to win at the U.S. Senate. You have to get them confirmed. And that's not enough. You have to get their team, their top people confirmed as well. And we can't have it where we confirm, let's say, a Tulsi Gabbard or a Pete Hegseth. We go down the list, a Kristi Noem, any of those positions. You look at the FBI. I mean, if they don't have their deputies in place very quickly, they are gobbled up by the bureaucracy. Remember what happened to Jeff Sessions, who was very close to President Trump, but he was alone after becoming attorney general. And all that pressure was on him to recuse himself because, what, he had meetings as a U.S. senator with the ambassador from Russia, an ambassador who everybody, including me, I remember showing it, who did anything of importance in Washington, D.C., had certainly met before and probably had a photo with. And that somehow made him disqualified for handling a potential just investigation into russian hacking of our election that was what it was supposed to be about not the president being a russian agent crossfire hurricane all those made-up issues literally lies phony dossiers it could have all been done with in a few days and it wouldn't have hampered the presidency at all or and i think it probably would have been a different outcome in the election i you know i think even with covert there would have been a very different president going for re-election but We are where we are. We beat back the deep state. We'll continue to beat back the deep state, but I think that's one of our top issues as we go into the new year in Washington is to make sure that those team members are in place, that it's not enough just to get the cabinet member in place. We now know if you don't get their team in place quickly, the worst actions of the government, what the attacks on President Trump, all began in the first few weeks of his presidency. Why? Because even if the cabinet individual was confirmed, the deputies weren't, which means the bureaucracy was running departments that should be run by political appointees, thus making political decisions about law enforcement and intelligence. And it plagued the administration for four years. I think President Trump amazing and did an awesome job of being able to be president and go through all of that just like we just saw him again be a candidate and go through all that but will we've got to hit the ground running and this is the day we've just got to be straightforward people we need your financial support we need your donation I can't say it any clearer I can't ask any more triple that is the match You have until midnight where you are tonight. So if you're listening to this not live, we are live right now. You're taking calls at 1-800-684-3110. We'll get to Will when we get back because I want his thoughts on that too. It's so important to get the team in place in Washington, D.C. And we've got the team ready to go on that, but we want to have as many resources as possible to get those people in place. Donate today at ACLJ.org. Whoever you're watching this, if it's not midnight where you are, you will get a triple donate. What does it mean to triple your donation? You donate $20 right now at ACLJ.org. That is like $60 for us. That's more than our average donation of the year, which is around $50. Donate today, right now, ACLJ.org. Don't wait. Back to Seculo. We are taking your calls. We'll get to one of those in a minute. But our team... A lot of the times they tune into this broadcast so they know kind of as things develop on the air. For instance, you know, I want to pull that U.S. attorney number for you because we're talking about ending the special counsel saying, you know, there's not really a need for that. You know, there's currently 93 Senate confirmed U.S. attorneys. President Trump will have the option of replacing every one of those U.S. attorneys. They all submit a resignation letter. on the inauguration day. And if there are ones you want to keep, you can keep them. If you want to replace all of them, you can. And that means their staffs as well, their deputies, you want to make sure they're too, always important. So there's one remaining right now that is not filled. So you get 94 total. Those are all Senate-confirmed, presidentially appointed. Why should the Attorney General of the United States have the power to appoint someone with more jurisdictional authority than any of those U.S. attorneys without having to go to the Senate for confirmation, so no backgrounder, and the president doesn't get to make the decision on who it is? Now, ultimately, they do work for the president, and the president can fire them. But as you heard from the left, they would try and put forward impeachment, even though it's a power of the president, it's an office that the president technically oversees. There's no need for us paying for these additional special counsels. You can choose a U.S. attorney and maybe go through a process to give them that authority, but it needs to be one that is clear and open. And I think if they have a history, a track record of being a political U.S. attorney in the sense that Like Jack Smith, they just want to trash you and get maybe an easy conviction or even just a grand jury to say this case should move forward and there's these charges, which is very easy to do. In an election year, they do it for political reasons. That should never happen again. It shouldn't happen to anybody, whether a Republican, a Democrat, or wherever we go with our party system. If there's another party, it should never happen again to our country. And then secondly, Will, our team, they listen to this broadcast. And we're working on how President Trump could potentially, and Pam Bondi as Attorney General, make sure that these special counsels are declared unconstitutional by working through the court system and see if that's a possibility if that case moves forward. So we're researching that right now because Jack Smith is out. His team doesn't want to necessarily litigate that. And he doesn't care about this case anymore. You know why? Because he can't dirty up President Trump. He got reelected. He can't run again. So Jack Smith, he failed. He succeeded in what the Democrats wanted. He got these easy, kind of nasty stories. He got all the documents thrown around Mar-a-Lago, raided all of the insanity. I mean, insanity. And that's what they wanted, was images that weren't real, like throwing all the pieces of paper on the floor and acting like that's how they were kept. But, you know, Will, our team listens in, and our director from Jerusalem, Jeff Balaban, was doing just that, and he's joining us now. And Jeff, I wanted you, you had a similar experience back when the Trump administration came in, and you wanted to tell people about it. You called into it, you're with us. Jeff Balaban, of course, oversees ACLJ Jerusalem. Tell us about it, Jeff.
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Thanks, Jordan and Willie. You know, I was listening, and you were talking about about what the ACLJ needs to do going forward. And it's not like this is over because we had an election where a lot of the left was repudiated and it seems to be a mandate. Really, the fight continues. And I just want to share something. As you know, I do oversee Jerusalem, but I'm also back and forth because a lot of that has to do with being in Washington as well, because between Jerusalem and Washington, it's sort of like shuttle diplomacy sometimes. And I'm known in Washington. And the first week, I think it might have been day two of the Trump administration last time, I was asked to come in to the White House. They had a series of things they discovered as they're taking over from the Obama administration. And as we've all seen play out over a number of years, the deep state, truly, you know, they weaponized so much of government at the state level, federal level, even some of the local levels. to do their will against their political opponents and against the people in so many cases and in this case there were a number of things that that elected officials or administration or government simply can't do and they wanted to bring it to the attention of people like us or specifically to us to the aclj things that law firms could do and outside groups can do that the government is stopped from doing but they let us know about what's going on. And obviously we understand once we hear what's going on internally, the things they found that only people like us, only ACLJ was really able to do. And there were a series, I wouldn't say they gave us tasks because they just made us aware of very deep seated problems already taking hold there. And we were able to help, whether it was using the powers of FOIA, which we are experts at, and have done in terms of turning up, discovering many, many such issues that really work against the American people and against the elected will of the American people. And so it's just an example of the kind of work that we know almost inevitably follows from a transition into a new administration is that we are called on, either directly or indirectly, to help them undo so much of the damage that's been done.
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I mean, there it is. Jeff, I thank you so much for joining us. Our director in Jerusalem joining us because, again, he wanted to share his impact. And Will, that is, again, it just underscores another point, which is there is a time period where the president's inaugurated. Your cabinet is not fully confirmed. And certainly those deputies aren't confirmed. And you know what? Your enemies don't care. They're not waiting for that. They actually seize on that moment, whether they are enemies from within or inside those government agencies or enemies like we're talking about with China hacking all of our financial information. I mean, I assume it right now that with this Chinese hack that they, of course, announced towards the end of the administration when they are not going to be accountable for the doubt that, you know, what that issues flow from that is that China may have been able to get financial information on everyone in the United States of America. That includes from the top of our leadership, down to every single individual listening or watching this show right now. So you know what? If the Chinese are looking at our info, let them know who you're supporting. Let them know that the ACLJ, wow, what's this ACLJ? Very powerful organization. It's going to fight back when our nation needs us the most to make sure these foreign countries aren't able to get away with things, and that we get to the bottom of why we don't have technology that can at least stop China from getting access to everything. We're always going to be hacked, Will. We know that. They're always going to try to hack us. And they may be able to get through stage one, but we should be able to constantly have the resources to never let these massive breaches happen again. And we have to look inside those institutions and wonder if anyone within is a spy, and how do we treat those individuals now? Because we've gotten away from this system of execution. President Trump isn't afraid of doing that, if necessary, and if the crime warrants that. I think we really have to look at that, and it's not all just coming from the outside. We know there's inside bad actors, the worst of the worst, under our constitutional system as well.
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And Jordan, even the fact that this broadcast, we bring you live. We could pre-tape shows on December 31st, but we decide to come to you live. And also, you see that our team is still working. Jeff Balaban was on yesterday talking about Middle East and the work ahead with Israel. But also... He was listening, still working, and said, you know what? Sent me a message. I could really add to this discussion because you know what? What you're talking about, the deep state, being alive and well and needing to get those principles and then the deputies involved. There's a very dangerous time period in American government during this transition period. We think of the transition being from inauguration day to election day, that window. But in reality, it extends beyond as you start trying to get people confirmed, the government is in flux to some degree from holdovers, deep state bureaucrats and the like that remain there until the leadership is completely changed. And that takes time because of our constitutional system. So that's where we come in. That's when the ACLJ gets a phone call, someone like Jeff Balaban, that they know they can trust and is capable of carrying out things and saying, hey, you should be aware of this. Maybe go look into it. And when you support that work, when you support the ACLJ, it's working with government, it's working internationally, and it's working domestically here for clients that you may never know their name, but we stand up for their constitutional rights. And Jordan, in the next segment... We'll be joined by Logan, who has been in Europe at the ECLJ, European Center for Law and Justice, to give a little bit of a window about the work going on there. And when you support the ACLJ, you also support that work protecting your constitutional conservative Christian values in a place that you don't even think of that often. Europe, you may think it's a lost cause. It's not. They have a wall of victories you're going to see. You're going to be impressed at the work of the ACLJ there, too.
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Yeah, I mean, let me just tell you, folks, Europe is in the middle of really a conservative renaissance. It's happening in France, though the powers that be, so the moderate right and the left there, got together to keep the true conservatives out of power, even though they won the most votes in the election. But we've seen victories in places like Italy, in Hungary. even in Baltic states. So the battle is on in Europe and we need to be able to increase that work working together to get great candidates there elected to really turn things around. But first priority is the United States of America. We can't make America great again without your support and again without utilizing all of our resources to make sure what you voted for is actually accomplished and we get as much done as possible That's including Speaker Johnson, keeping him as speaker. That is so key, folks. He's someone we've worked with for over 20 years. Couldn't have asked God for a better speaker, literally, for us to be able to work with at the ACLJ. President Trump and the whole team. Donate ACLJ.org. Logan's coming up next from Europe.
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Welcome back to Seculo. A face you haven't seen for a week or so has been Logan Seculo. You may wonder, where is Logan? What's he doing here at the end of the year? Well, he's actually been working as well. He went over to meet and work with our team at the European Center for Law and Justice. And I'll be bringing him on here to talk a little bit more about that. But first, I want to share a video that he filmed with Gregor Popunic, who is the director general of the ECLJ. And we're going to go ahead and roll that now.
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All right, we're inside here at the ECLJ, and our offices were joined by Greg Gore, who's the director here at the ECLJ. What I love about this office is so many things, but one of the things you showed me yesterday was this.
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Tell everybody what they see here and behind us. So here we are in Strasbourg. We work with the European Court of Human Rights, mainly, and the Council of Europe, which is very close by here. And this is our wall of victories. Here, and we have to continue on this wall. we have to take out a couple and continue later on so in fact we have plenty of room for our victories in the past 25 years the european center for law and justice has been in strasbourg we have been involved in over 80 cases before the european court of human rights we contributed to the case law of the court of strasbourg which has an impact on 47 states all over europe and an impact as well on the human rights worldwide, on the interpretation. So here are our main cases, our main victories. All aspects, religious freedom, freedom of expression, defense of the countries, issues of immigration, family, life of course, euthanasia, abortion and so forth.
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We're going to take this idea also and bring this home because we don't have a wall of victories at home and I love this. I love that your team gets to walk through and see this when they're working and get you inspired and get you pumped.
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What I do see though is there is an empty spot. Yes, there is an empty spot as there is a very recent victory. This was a draft resolution to be voted at the Council of Europe. This text promoted legalization of prostitution in Europe. And so we clearly and strongly oppose this text. And we managed to have this text rejected and just, you know, thrown out. So this is our most recent victory, a victory before the parliament, the European Parliament here in Strasbourg. And we will now add this victory.
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Yes, it's a fight. for human rights, against trafficking and all things we support. I want to tell you this, when you support the work of the ACLJ, when you give a donation to the ACLJ, part of that obviously comes here and gets your value spread all around the world. So it's really amazing the work you're doing there.
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And I want to thank very much the donors of the American Center for Law and Justice which allows us here and the team here to do all this great work. And we are also very happy for this good collaboration, transatlantic collaboration between the European Center and the American Center for Law and Justice.
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It's amazing. It's been great to be here and to see all that you've been doing, even right now during the holidays, still busy. So let's get this up on the wall. Another addition to the wall of victories.
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Thank you for filming that video with Gregor. But first of all, it's an office that not a lot of people see very often. We reference it. But tell us a little bit about your meetings that you had with our team at the ECLJ, European Center for Law and Justice.
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We've been in that office now for a quarter of a century, for 25 years. And to see the success they're doing and they're having there is really remarkable. And as you saw earlier, that wall of victories where they are sharing not only what you'd say is American values, but values, Christian values with the world. And when you donate to the ACLJ, as I said, Part of that donation is going to help fund the ECLJ, the European Center for Law and Justice. Again, fighting for a lot of the same causes that we are. They're having a lot of the same issues in Europe as they are having, as we're having in America, obviously fighting for life and all of those things that you heard about. But it was really cool to see everyone and to see members of the team. I mean, when you saw that video that was filmed just a few days ago, that was actually on, I think, Christmas Eve. And that team was there working. Greg Gore was there working, getting ready for the next case. And I think he's gone and he's somewhere else right now on ECLJ work. So they're doing amazing things. And I think we need to always remember that they're there, that it's happening. We can get a little lost. And like you said, not focused on it because ECLJ, Obviously, we had a big year, an election year in America. It's going to be hard to compete, if you will, with that. But at the same time, at the same time, I'm able to come over here, see what they're doing. And I would love to see in the comments. I would love to see if you'd like to hear more from our ECLJ team. They have a studio set up there. They could pop on this show. Once a month, come in, give me an update of what's happening in Europe at the ECLJ. Again, Greg Gore asked me, he goes, what can we do to have a better media presence? I said, well, part of it for me is going to be talking to our audience and telling them why it's important that the ECLJ exists. It's very easy to become a little isolationist and just talk about America, but understand that your Christian values and a lot of what you see, Will, you can kind of speak to this, at the UN is actually on behalf of the ECLJ.
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That's right. And as you mentioned, even in that wall of victories, many of these things that the ECLJ fights for are the same conservative Christian values in the same fights we have here in the United States. But these aren't just American values. We believe these are. Our universal human values, the sanctity of life and standing up for the unborn, things of that nature that it's easy to think, oh, Europe's a lost cause, but you see that wall of victories that we have an impact at the ECLJ. But also when we fight for the persecuted or when we fight against Iran or stand up for Israel, we do that through the arm of the ECLJ, which is the member of the UN. And so when we are able to do all of those things, whether it be the letters that we send off, the fights, the oral presentations that we give, that's through the ECLJ. So it's a very vital, important arm of the work we do here. And when you give to the ACLJ, it funds that. That is the mechanism that we are able to stand up in places most American organizations, Logan, can't do what the ACLJ and ECLJ are able to do as a team.
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No, and now we're going to be expanding upon that. We're going to be seeing so much more of the work of the ECLJ and I'm going to be working with that team. Jordan's going to be working with that team even more in depth because they're amazing people doing amazing work. As you said, it's not something that a lot of people could do. It's not something a lot of other organizations could really have such a strong presence in Europe. And I can tell you, you may think it's a lost cause, but I'm talking to people in the streets, talking to people in France, in the UK, in Germany. And I will tell you, there is very similar mood happening around these countries. And it's not just in the communities you think. I've talked to people in the Jewish community. I've talked to people in the Muslim community, in the Arab community, a lot of them. what's happening in America, and they're wanting to see maybe similar results and responses happening in Europe and in the United Kingdom. And we can only hope that we could share some of those values and some of those, like you said, those big victories with all of you. So I encourage you, again, as I'm here traveling in Europe, I just would encourage you all to support the work of the ACLJ because when you do it, it's not just a domestic thing. It can go worldwide. So again, I know Will's going to take it from here, but thank you all.
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All right, folks, as you've heard, there is so much happening at the ACLJ. and the deadline for our faith and freedom year-end drive is midnight tonight this is the last day to have your impact tripled as we have that triple match going on and whether it be the eclj or our policy team on capitol hill or our legal team as we go up against A new entire swath of judges that the Biden team has put in place over this last four years. We will keep fighting, but we can't do it without you. Triple your impact. Donate today before it's too late. ACLJ.org or scan the QR code, but donate today. ACLJ.org.
Join us in this insightful year-end edition of the Best Stocks Now show where Barry Kite and Jeff Webster take the reins to guide you through the complexities of the past year in financial markets. With a vibrant discussion on market highs, sector performances, and the enduring impacts of global economic indicators, this episode sets the stage for what to expect in 2025. Dive deep into the roller-coaster of December’s trading dynamics, with perspectives on unexpected high-volume days and the intricate dance of trades during a festive period.
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Here is Professional Money Manager, Bill Gundersen.
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Good morning and welcome to the year-end December 31st edition of the Best Docs Now show. I am Barry Kite, planner and analyst here at Gunderson Capital Management, giving Bill's voice a bit of a reprieve today. So we'll get his voice back on Thursday strong. So we'll... We'll power through on we get to go through the year-end stuff here today. So looking forward to this opportunity. But we've got green on the screen here at the moment. We've got the Dow up 158 points, up 0.37% at the moment. S&P up about a quarter point. 59,200 and the NASDAQ bringing up the rear here up just over .08%, up 16 points to 19,503. We've got crude oil up about half a percent. Gold also in the green up almost 0.3% here at $2,614 an ounce. And Bitcoin making a bit of a comeback after it's been a couple of down days here, up 3.64% to $95,186. And again, good morning and welcome to the year-end, December 31st edition of the Best Docs Now show. I am your host, Barry Kite, planter analyst here at Gunderson Capital Management, sitting in for Bill today. And also excited to have a partner here, Jeff Webster, joining me on the show. Jeff, how's everything going? Hope you had a good bit disjointed holiday season, but hopefully everything went well.
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It did. Thank you. Happy to be here today and wishing everyone a happy early new year. Looking forward to a prosperous 2025, whatever that might mean for specific individuals. For a lot of folks, it's not just about financial prosperity. It's about health, about feeling connected with your family, connected with your community, spiritually connected. There's lots of good things associated with prosperity.
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Yeah, lots of ways to measure wealth out there in a bunch of different fashions for sure. We made it to the end of 2024. It's been another eventful and thankfully profitable year for the equity markets. um you know of course uh you know the market made it over uh jumped a few hurdles along the way this year and i must say uh though i mean this december has been one of the kind of one of the more strange ones i don't know if uh you kind of feel the same way there jeff in terms of uh i've got you know i've got my own suspicions as to why it's been a little odd but uh you know it's just been one of those a bit disjointed i think the Main reason, at least first, is just the calendar. We're, of course, having Christmas and New Year's following on a Wednesday. It's kind of, you know, I guess if you had to do a wonder job-wise or like U.S. productivity-wise if there's a way to monitor, you know, my guess is at least from a Wall Street standpoint, probably one of the least productive kind of two-week periods that's probably been out there when you look at volume-wise. It's just been a bit strange where you've got some low volume, and of course, during low volume, anything can happen. It's easy, of course, for sellers or buyers to wrestle away the upper hand on low volume days, but you know oddly enough it's kind of seemed there's been a few you know real high volume days mixed in mixed into the middle of this whole thing so it's been odd to kind of get a feel for what's going on I mean you had I think it was December 20th you had one of the highest volume days of the year I think that was a Friday and then you had you know 23rd was you know about about Sorry, I think we cut off there. But, yeah, I mean, 24th and the 26th were low-volume days. And then, you know, Friday, the 27th, you had one of the highest-volume days of the year. And then yesterday was about average. So I guess, you know, you've got folks, traders poking their head in, you know, to the office, getting a bunch of trades in maybe, and then kind of, you know, going back – Going back home to the family or what have you, but it's just been kind of disjointed from that standpoint from a calendar perspective. And then you've also had these names in the market that have had long runs. I mean, you look at NVIDIA. Microsoft, them both kind of kicking off the whole AI boom really in kind of that first quarter of 2023. And so look at long-term capital gains or you've got these mutual funds that are forced to kind of sell in terms of doing distributions to required to do distributions to their shareholders. So you've got Some of these names that have been performing well are kind of casualties. It can be casualties to rebalancing, right, where you've got these companies or mutual funds forced to sell their winners. And then, of course, in the rebalancing phase, they buy their underperformers in terms of redistributing those proceeds. You know, all that kind of makes for this little bit, you know, kind of a sloppy, I think, you know, probably is a good way to put it, sloppy, disjointed December. Not to mention you've got a lot of repositioning or positioning for the incoming administration. You had, of course, Powell's hawkish tone at his remarks after the December Fed meeting. So you've had some actual events, right, pushed into the middle of this kind of oddly in terms of volume. So it's been, you know, we'll be good to get to the finish line, go ahead and put some of these numbers, write them in stone, and then, you know, see what the rest of the next leg of the race has, right? Absolutely.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. You know, yesterday it started off very, very rough. It seems like we, early afternoon there was a rally, and then, you know, started trending a little bit more downwards towards the,
SPEAKER 02 :
towards the close of market but uh yeah and in volume yesterday was you know basically right roughly about average like i said on the first day uh you know on on friday last friday was you know i think one of the top 10 or so volumes day days of the year i think december 20th was one of the uh one of the top five volume days of the year so it's It's like, I guess, get these trades in and then exit. But it's made for a bit of a mushy market. Yesterday was another example of a sloppy day, as you mentioned. Overall, you had the NASDAQ down about 1.19%. I believe 10 out of the 11 S&P sectors were down. So it was kind of a broad-based market in terms of what was dropping out there. Dow was down, I believe, 0.97%. S&P was down a little over a percent at 1.07%. So kind of limping across the finish line here. One headwind yesterday, at least in terms of market news, I guess was Janet Yellen warning about a potential U.S. hitting the debt ceiling limit in mid-January. I mean, did that really come as a surprise? I mean, I thought we were going to hit the debt limit, right? I thought that was the point. So I would expect them to hit that debt limit particularly right before they go out of office. So, you know, to me it kind of seemed odd that that would be, you know, maybe the only reason for the market decline yesterday that wasn't a total big moving information there. Anything on your end, Jeff, in terms of looking at the market? I mean, it's really probably just kind of a mid-volume.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, the NASDAQ is flat right now. S&P is up a tad. Dow's up. you know, 32 basis points right now. So we'll see. We'll see what happens here over the next three hours and 45 minutes as we ring in the new year.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, and talking about, of course, market being closed tomorrow for New Year's, the market also, I guess, announced yesterday that they added another, I guess, holiday day to the equity market calendar. I guess the NASDAQ and the Dow or the New York Stock Exchange will be closed on January 9th, which I guess is going to be a Jimmy Carter National Day of Mourning. So the markets will be closed on that day. So pencil that into your calendar when you're Googling those holidays for markets. the market in uh in 2025 i don't know i meant to look it up but i don't know if that's i think it's i think i heard that maybe it was ulysses s grant that this was done for at some point in the past but don't quote me on that so but we're just getting started here on the uh on the year-end edition of the best stocks now show and we'll be right back And welcome back here to the Tuesday, December 31st edition of the Best Docs Now show. I am Barry Kite, planer analyst here at Gunderson Capital, taking the wheel for Bill today. And we also have Jeff Webster on the show as usual, vice president and advisor here at the firm. Looks like market-wise, it looks like NASDAQ's bumping back in the green. It was red here just a split second ago. So we're up pretty much green across the board. We've got the Dow up just under 0.4%, up 166 points at the moment. We've got the S&P up just over a quarter point. quarter of a percent today nasdaq bringing up the rear up 11 basis points 0.11 percent oil continues to stay above 70 it's up 0.85 percent today gold in the green and bitcoin making a comeback again up 3.6 percent at 95 265 so We've got some green on the screen here. I guess at least earlier today, Asia did not have, in most of your early opening world markets, did not have, we're not in the green today, basically kind of following the trend. uh yesterday's sell-off uh in the u.s markets uh looks and they're going to be closed coming up for the new year as well but we've got uh looks like i guess for the for for the year we've or for yesterday had uh it looks like where's my number go china was down 1.16 percent uh japan continues to uh you know the yen continues to be under pressure they're actually yen was actually down 10% this year, and a lot of what Japan was trying to prop up, attempting to prop up the value of the yen, and the yen's still down 10% in 2024, so a fourth consecutive year for a decline. of the yen against the dollar. So that currency trade continues to go against what Japan has been trying to do, at least when looking at the yen. China did release some economic, I guess some relevant economic news. It's pretty much a quiet day data-wise today. Not much activity on New Year's Eve here. But we did have China's factory activity grew. It grew slower this month than it had, I think, the last two months, but it was still up. I guess still a positive note. It's been interesting, I think, to note just how sluggish China has been in terms of getting out of the gates, Jeff. It seems like we've been talking about this story for a couple of years now of China You know, China bouncing back from from covid and, you know, kind of becoming that, you know, growth engine as it had been prior, but. It's been certainly a sluggish start for, you know, kind of out of the gates, even with some of the stimulus that the Chinese have done during 2024. I think the manufacturing PMI was at 50.1, so barely expansion. I believe above 50 is going to be expansion there. It's down from a seven-month high in November at 50.3, so barely over expansion. So even, I guess you use the word expansion a little loosely, I guess, in terms of some of these PMIs there. One bright spot, I believe, is the non-manufacturing PMI, which China's tried to continually kind of move their economy, a bit more to a consumption economy, services economy, similar to a U.S. model versus just pure manufacturing. That did end up being the strongest service sector growth in nine months. So if you can get some green shoots in China a bit to where they would fuel other growth in other parts of the world, right now it seems like The U.S. is really the only game in town with Europe kind of faltering or just being barely above expansion. I think the U.K. has been in GDP decline or teetering along that edge as well.
SPEAKER 03 :
Terry, I know you did a good job of talking about some of those things. You outlined some pretty impressive stats for this year. Um, I'd love to have you run through those, uh, you know, with the audience to outline some of the things that, that, you know, were highlighted, you know, as far as like how the, the S&P performed in general, uh, You know, record closes, those types of things.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, some pretty remarkable stats just in terms of the market. If we get cut off before the break, we'll run through a couple more here. But, yeah, when looking back, I mean, you look back at 2024 in terms of the market year. Also followed up a great 2023 in terms of a bounce back year coming off of the bear market of 2022. I believe it's the most successful two-year consecutive market run since 97 and 98. So I guess that's basically a quarter century ago almost here, right? Or a bit more than that. It doesn't seem that long ago, actually, in my head. But in reality, it's a good bit ago, a couple of lifetimes ago. But just in terms of the market, I mean, S&P is on track for a 24% year-to-date return here. Dow up roughly just over 13% or almost 13%. The NASDAQ just under 30% at 29.8%. This stat is the one that always kind of blows my mind because of its perception where you've got 57 record closes today. For the S&P 500 in 2024. Unbelievable. Yeah, and I tell folks, you know, we started, right, the market started at an elevated position at the beginning of the year. So there was really no, you know, time in 2024 where you just felt, hey, you know, back up the truck, right? It's just, you know, it's time to plow into business. into equities, but it gives you perspective in terms of a lot of times riding the trend is important. You want to be vigilant and get off the trend if you see it faltering a bit, especially towards the top. But it just tells you that the market, just because it's at an all-time high doesn't mean that it can't go higher. There's a lot of other factors in there than just some arbitrary price level, if you will. So 57 record closes in 2024. That's pretty wild. For gold, gold actually wasn't just in the equity markets. Gold had its best year since 2010. So that's another kind of interesting stat that I had. Of course, we don't have to hit this one because everyone knows Bitcoin more than doubled in 2024. Of course, breaching above 100,000 for a bit there, up more than 117% on the year. So there's a pretty, from a market history standpoint, the last two years have been a Pretty remarkable and one for the history books. We'll see and try to keep it going in 2025. But we'll be right back with the Best Stocks Now show.
SPEAKER 01 :
This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. Now, back to the second half of the show. Thank you.
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Because there's something in the air.
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Welcome back here to the second half of the year-end December 31st edition of the Best Docs Now show. Barry Kite, planer and analyst here at Gunderson Capital, serving as relief captain for Bill's Voice this morning. He's not saying much, but he's typing away. Right, Jeff? You see that? We've got plenty of messages that will be coming out on Sunday. on the live trading subscription, and what he can't say, he'll be typing at us today. I've gotten a few texts already. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, well, market-wise, we've got everything really in the green still. Nothing to write home about too much. NASDAQ's basically flat at the moment, and then you've got the S&P up, uh about seven basis points 0.07 percent the dow kind of uh leading rate up today about 0.2 percent so pretty quiet it seems uh as expected of course um you know this time of year we've got a lot of a lot of prognostications uh 2025 outlook uh certainly stay up to date with With Bill's thoughts, our thoughts on the market, you can get Bill's newsletter, of course, at GundersonCapital.com. Or if you'd like to have a discussion with myself or Jeff about your portfolio allocation, always feel free to give us a call. Likely reach 80 first, and that's at 855-611-BEST. That's 855-611-2378. Of course, we're here to be a resource for 2025 and beyond. A couple of other of these stats, I mean, they're pretty amazing. So you look, of course, you had, like I said, S&P 500 up 24%. year-to-date, first-time consecutive back-to-back time period since 97, best back-to-back years since 97 and 98, being 2023 and 2024. The interesting thing is, of course, you've got that 24% year-to-date return for S&P, and the market really didn't get the amount of rate cuts that they would have expected when you looked at the beginning of this year. You had Firms pricing in six to seven cuts in 2023. We didn't get that. Or in 2024, we didn't get that. But still, the market performed in terms of up 24% for the year. So that's pretty remarkable. It is interesting in terms of return, 38% of the – The first quarter of 2024, as you may remember, it's like we got shot out of a cannon portfolio-wise in terms of the market this year in the first quarter. So a lot of that return was made in the first quarter. Kind of had a soft third quarter, certainly a soft July, which would have been the first month of the third quarter. But large cap continued to outperform versus small cap. That's been evident for an extended period of time now. Stat-wise, the Magnificent Seven, this is a good one, Jeff. You'll like this one. Magnificent Seven accounted for 53% of the return in 2024. So seven stocks accounted for 53% of the return in 2024, and NVIDIA by itself was 21% of the total return. of the S&P 500. So it just shows you the power of those big, large tech names and their attribution to the overall earnings picture of the market. I mean, there's a reason why. You can argue that there's a reason why the S&P multiples at 21.9 or whatever on a forward trend looking basis because tech names have become a much larger portion of that mix.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, that's super impressive. I'm hoping in 2025, though, we see some balancing taking place. Seeing some other folks that none of us like the 80-20 rule where In this case, the 70-53 rule, whatever it is, we want to see other up-and-coming organizations contributing as well. I'm optimistic that's going to happen.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, I mean, this is the important part of being in the right stocks right over the last two years. So since the market bottomed in 2022's bear market, only 10 stocks have provided essentially 59% of the gain since then. So, you know, the market's really... jumped on the back of really 10 stocks and rode that thing until we're at where we're at now. There have been some bright spots for the market. I think financials were up 28% or so in 2024. Industrials were up 16%. Utilities on the back of AI power needs were up 20% in 2024. I don't know. I can't remember. 20% for utilities seems like, I'm sure there's some years where they must have been real low and came up pretty well, but that's a pretty significant run in the utility space. We're ending the year at a multiple of 21.9 in terms of forward PEs of just under 20. To give you an idea, the 10-year average is right around mid-18, so around 18.5. So that just tells you, and that kind of ties into probably what we would consider, and Bill's talked about, kind of the biggest risk for 2025 is valuations, right, because we're at almost a 22 multiple, usually a 10-year average being 18.5 to get towards back to that mean or close to that mean requires a pretty significant pullback in the equities market. I think earnings, right, earnings expectations and earnings have held up very well, which has kind of led to that 21.9 P.E. because P.E. ratio hasn't gotten any help from the interest rate side of things, right? We're basically finishing the year close to the highs of rates today. at least over the last 18 months here. So the market's really kind of priced for perfection, I think would be a good way to put it, in 2025. Thankfully, those tech names have been able to count on in terms of growing that overall pie from an earnings perspective. So as Bill loves to say, stocks follow earnings, and my guess is You know, earnings, particularly at the P-E ratio we're at, that's going to be a big driver, you know, going into particularly this first quarter. earnings quarter out of the gate, right? You want to start fresh with the old adage of, you know, so goes the first quarter. I guess however goes the first quarter, so goes the rest of the year. So certainly held up for 2024 being up 10% pretty much in the first quarter of 2024.
SPEAKER 03 :
Barry, you mentioned some of the sectors, financials, industrials, utilities, Any one of those, was any one of those sectors a particular favorite of yours? Anything out there that was unusually surprising to you as far as performance goes or perhaps even maybe disappointments?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, I think looking forward, I think, you know, some of the financial names, particularly ones in the deal-making space, right, because I think, you know, you don't have to connect too many dots to figure out that, you know, when, you know, with the Trump administration reducing, you know, some regulation, helping a more friendly deal-making environment, right, you're going to have, you know, you should have, Some of your investment banking side of the financials piece, right, should perform well. Or even, you know, some of your private credit, you know, the Apollos kind of the world, which has already gotten kind of a good little kick. You know, since the election, I think to me on the liquefied natural gas side versus, you know, the old adage, you know, the drill baby drill kind of mantra. Right. You know, but I think, you know, liquefying natural gas and reducing some of those restrictions that have slowed up some of that expansion and capacity expansion for workers. Liquefied natural gas will, you know, continues to provide, will provide more demand, I think, for different reasons. I think natural gas is up almost 22% today, and that's based on a forecast of pretty chilly weather over the next two weeks. But, you know, long term, I think certainly Trump administration product, you know, for companies like Chenier or just, you know, anything to do with, liquefying of natural gas is a better bet than maybe just drilling for oil because oil could supply and demand factors would be a bigger headwind potentially for them. But great question. We'll touch on a couple of other outlooks here when we get back for the last segment of the year for the Best Docs Now show. And welcome back here to the Tuesday, December 31st edition of the Best Docs Now show. It'll be the last segment of 2024. I am Barry Kite, planner and analyst here at Gunderson Capital, sitting in for Bill today. And we have Jeff Webster on the show. Hello. vice president advisor here at uh here at gunderson capital and uh looks like we'll be going out with the little green on the screen i'm going to get it in right now because the uh the nasdaq is basically up two points so that green could change to red at any moment so um one of the number one is as jeff mentioned just want to Thank all of our clients, listeners, subscribers for a great 2024. We're looking forward to seeing what 2025 has to bring in the market, and Bill will be on the front lines. If you want to follow what Bill does, you can reach us at GundersenCapital.com. You can sign up for two weeks free of the newsletter. I think we still have the four-week trial for the live trading. I don't think he's cut that thing off at the end of the year yet. Get in there and subscribe. Get Bill's take on what we've got coming ahead in 2024. You can always give us a call at 855-611-BEST. That's 855-611-2378. Tell Edie hello, and she'll get you where you need to go. But from a market perspective, Jeff, yeah, it's kind of looking on to 2025, like I said, I think. I think Bill has highlighted that the biggest risk in the market for 2025 being P.E. ratio and valuations, which is not an unlikely problem that we've had over the years. So it's better, I guess, than the alternative in terms of being on the low spectrum of the P.E. scale.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. I think so. You know, there's always the concern that everything's overpriced. There are going to be many opportunities out there, Barry. And that's, you know, it's very important to do your research. I mean, you referenced, you know, the four-week live trading trial. I mean, we provide tools for the do-it-yourselfer, you know, for the individual that's looking for someone to help them, you know, manage their money. again, Gunderson Capital Management, we're active, active managers, bills involved in those portfolios every single day. And, you know, if there's uncertainty in your mind and stuff like that, that's when perhaps it might make sense, you know, to, to turn, uh, to an active money manager that, uh, can help you make good sound decisions that, uh, ideally provide, you know, positive returns for you.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, and we're weighing, you know, like I said, you know, being active and really present in the portfolio in terms of, you know, we're looking at the last, you know, last couple days of the year trying to figure out, hey, is there, you know, is there a name that we want to, you know, potentially part ways with to take advantage of some tax loss harvesting, right? There's a lot of different moving parts in terms of, you know, managing the portfolio, whether it's, you know, picking good stocks or, You know, doing some urine tax planning. Very talk to us for a second about that tax privacy.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, for our listeners out there, what does that really mean and why is it important?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, and, you know, and really in terms of this market cycle, it's important, too, because, you know, as I mentioned earlier, you know, got a lot of clients, you know, whether there are clients or they're just, you know, whether they're just folks out there who, you know, bought NVIDIA in March of 2023, right, or Microsoft in March of 2023, you know, you're sitting in a position where you have, you know, long-term capital gains. If you haven't turned that position along the way, right, well, then it's now become, you know, pretty significant from a concentration risk standpoint. So, At certain points, it makes sense to trim some of those names. And so whether it's in 2023 or particularly in 2024, capital gains are going to be a nuisance, and that's just because the market has done so well two years in a row. So it's one of those double-edged swords where you've got to pay some taxes. But at the same time, thankfully, there were some gains that went along with that taxes. But to help offset some of that, you can do – you've likely taken some significant gains in 2024, and then you can sell some laggards off. things that are showing a potentially taxable loss or unrealized loss. And if you sell those, it becomes a realized loss, and you can net that off on your taxes. So you just want to avoid that wash sale rule. But in terms of buying it back within the next 30 days. But it's a strategy, and this year it's more important simply because, number one, it's kind of hard to find some losers sometimes, at least in this market nowadays. But every portfolio is going to have some, and it's going to be a way to offset some of those gains in what's likely going to be a pretty significant portfolio. you know, tax, uh, tax gain here. So you'll have some gains to offset those losses against, put it that way.
SPEAKER 03 :
Awesome. Thanks for that explanation.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. It's, uh, you know, one of those kinds of nuances that you hear people talk about, but sometimes, you know, no one gives you the definition of what it actually means. It's just, uh, it's like a wash sale rule. It's like, okay, well you look that up and the, the, The name does not describe it completely. I will say real quick, talking about Apollo and them being positioned well for deal-making in 2025, if anyone gets a chance, peek at Torsten Slocks. He puts out essentially 12 risks of the markets in 2020. in uh in 2025 and gives you you know kind of a chances of that happening i like number 12 um probability of a recession in the u.s zero percent you don't you don't get zero percent or 100 in this business too often but i like that yeah that is as uh you know as the 12th thing there that essentially no no chance of a u.s recession um to put that in in in context he he says uh There's a 40% chance that Germany will be in a recession, and there's a 33% chance that China will be in recession in 2025. So to put the U.S. in context, right, he's got a 0% chance there. But there's some interesting ones here. NVIDIA, you see this one, Jeff, with essentially a 90% chance that NVIDIA's earnings will disappoint inflated expectations, I think. I don't know if they can hit any expectations nowadays in terms of that. Right. That fence has gotten higher and higher and higher over the years, but it will be interesting to see how that one plays out.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and again, maybe an opportunity to start looking around at the picks and shovels that support NVIDIA and other AI companies to, you know,
SPEAKER 02 :
supplements dad yep we'll we'll be on the lookout in 2025 and bill will uh and we'll bill will be there as well uh we're looking forward to it and i just want to thank you all for listening and uh have a happy new year from best stocks now
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And last night I was watching some of the news shows, and I'd forgotten this about Jimmy Carter. that it's called his sweater speech where he had a sweater on and he was saying that we all need to sacrifice and have our homes at 65 degrees in the winter during the day and 55 at night and to put a sweater on instead of using creativity and innovation to actually address These challenges, which is what happened with horizontal hydraulic fracturing when it was reported that the world would be running out of oil within just a few years. The creativity and innovation of the oil and natural gas industry rolled up their sleeves and they came up with solutions. And that's what we need to do with all of these different problems. uh, questions that we have out there is unleash the human mind, creativity and innovation to address these challenges. And we can address these challenges. So I would say that I can use the word of the day regarding that sweater speech by Jimmy Carter, who he just passed on at the age of 100. Uh, and the word of the day is indignation. It's I N D I G N A T I O N. It's a noun and it could be an anger aroused by something perceived as unjust mean or unworthy that's number one second definition is the feeling excited by which is unworthy base or disgraceful anger mingled with contempt disgust or abhorrence and i would say that where would i fall in on this I would say that I guess I'm disgusted with that sweater speech. Instead of thinking about creativity and innovation, those on the left, they always think about more government control, less of everything. And so I really look at that sweater speech with indignation, which is spelled I-N-D-I-G-N-A-T-I-O-N. our quote of the day i went to benjamin franklin born in 1706 died in 1790 he was an american polymath a leading writer scientist inventor statesman diplomat printer publisher and political philosopher and he was among the most influential intellectuals of his time he was a founding father He was a drafter and signer of the Declaration of Independence, and he was the first postmaster general. And he said this. He said, without freedom of thought, there can be no wisdom and no such thing as public liberty without freedom of speech. And, of course, you can see how that influenced our Bill of Rights. Freedom of speech is foundational to a free society. And, again, that's Benjamin Franklin. And look at all the things that he did. And that was before he had an iPhone where so many people, I'm not being judgmental, I know it happens, are glued into being online. And instead of, I would say, really expanding their minds, it depends on what you're doing online, obviously. But if it's just watching others and what their lives are, perhaps maybe I might want to make a change on that. So this day in history. I found this super interesting. In 192, Roman Emperor Commodus survives poisoning attempt by his mistress, I guess that had not gone well, only to be strangled in the bath in an assassination plot. I guess they wanted to get rid of him, it looks like. In 1564, William I of Orange demands freedom of religious conscience for his subjects in a dramatic speech to the Council of States. And that was so important back then, and it still is important. In 1695, a window tax is imposed in England, causing many shopkeepers to brick up their windows to avoid the tax. Joe, they will tax anything. Can you imagine that? And my understanding, I've done some research on this, was the more windows you had meant probably the more affluent that you are, which they were trying to tax affluence. But just think about, again, when I say it's not right to take other people's opportunities, just think about taxing shopkeepers' windows where people can look in and see their shops. And again, this was back in 1695. What do you think about that, Joe?
SPEAKER 18 :
That's disgusting. I don't really have much more words than that. That's just egregious.
SPEAKER 13 :
And so always government seems to be trying to figure out ways to take away opportunity. In 1775, this was before we had declared our independence in the Battle of Quebec, American Continental Army led by Richard Montgomery is defeated trying to take the British stronghold of Quebec City in the American Revolutionary War. General Montgomery is killed and Benedict Arnold is injured. Then in 1924, Italian fascist Mussolini orders the suppression of opposition newspapers. Again, going right back to the freedom of speech that Benjamin Franklin was talking about. Suppressing opposition newspapers is suppressing speech. 1935, Charles Darrow patents the board game Monopoly, which goes on to be the first millionaire game designer. In 1945, the ratification of the United Nations Charter is completed. In 1997, more Swedes died than were born, and that's the first time since 1809, which that is a very dangerous sign for a society. In 1999, control of the Panama Canal reverts to Panama, which that was another of Jimmy Carter's decisions was to give the Panama Canal back to Panama. And of course, Donald Trump is talking about trying to get that back because apparently there might be overcharging now on shipping. So that was, again, Jimmy Carter, who just died at the age of 100. And in 2020, the World Health Organization grants the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine emergency authorization. Again, there's the emergency authorization. It's not FDA approved. Paving the world for worldwide distribution. So... That was again 2020. That's Deja Vu looking back at that. One of the first headlines that I wanted to mention was this is in Complete Colorado and this is by Nash Herman. And he says there we need to have a course correction for Colorado's economic outlook. And it says the University of Colorado Leeds School of Business recently released their 60th annual business outlook for 2025. And despite a moderate outlook in 2025, the report includes some disturbing trends in the Colorado economy. As pointed out by the Denver Post earlier, and we talked about this, and that was writer Aldo Svaldi, Colorado was the fifth fastest growing economy in the country in the last 15 years, but it was 41st this last year. And in terms of personal growth, Colorado moved from third to 39th. And then it says, although Colorado only moved down from 6th to 15th for employment growth, it comes with the caveat that the job gains this year were skewed toward government, education and health care, leisure and hospitality. Although we reported yesterday that the Bureau of Labor Statistics has said that the labor statistics, as reported here in Colorado, are unreliable. So I've got to think that that that particular data point is suspect. And it says, conversely, the growth of the high paying professional and business services industry has continued a downward trend since 2022. He goes on to say that this is the reason. And that's why Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights is important. It's so important, Tabor, and then also the work that the Colorado Union of Taxpayers is doing. And that group is Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Carl Honecker, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Joseph O'Loughlin, Wendy Warner. Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, and Mary Jansen. And I'm pleased to let you all know that listener Dave Evans will be joining us this next year on the Colorado Union of Taxpayers Board. And I could probably... We could maybe have one more, a new board member. So if you are interested in talking with me about that, text me at 720-605-0647. But this is the reason that Colorado's economy is tanking. And it says that there are some problems, such as the lingering effects of the reaction to the pandemic. Again, that was government-induced. and inflation from federal spending. We talk about that on a regular basis. But he goes on to say that Colorado's shift toward bigger government and away from the free market is why these problems are beginning to manifest. Overregulation, overspending, and overtaxation are the key culprits. And so we've got to get that turned around. And, of course, this is under Jared Polis and this radical activist state legislature. And that is what is happening. And that is why right now Colorado's economy is headed in the wrong direction. And it is so important that we have these discussions. And one of those great sponsors that brings this to you is the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team. And they can bundle your insurance together, your home and your auto and the other things you might have, camper. boat. And if you bundle all that together, you might be able to save some money. The way to find out is to give them a call at 303-795-8855 for a complimentary appointment. And for all of you that are renting out there, make sure that you have renter's coverage. That is very, very important. So again, like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan team is there.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. The text line is 720-605-0647. And Eric wanted to know if we're live today. Yes, we are live today. We are prerecording for New Year's Day, but we are live for sure. And talking with former State Senator Kevin Lundberg, he is the author of the Lundberg Report, and wanted to take a look at looking back and looking forward. Kevin Lundberg, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, thanks, Kim. It's great being with you, as always.
SPEAKER 13 :
Happy New Year.
SPEAKER 15 :
Happy New Year. Looking forward to it, even though, I don't know, our discussion today might not be the most encouraging part of it, but I'm looking forward to a whole lot of what I'm going to see in 2025.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, Colorado, I really think, is at the tip of the spear with all of the things that the radical activists, extremists that have taken over the Democrat Party are trying to push forward. And it's been reported that out of all 50 states, that Colorado is the only state that did not vote more Republican. And I find that pretty interesting. That's why I'm pleased that we've got our two lawsuits out there regarding the Colorado 2024 election project. And we're kicking around the idea of another lawsuit because we need to make sure that we have free, fair, honest and transparent elections here, Kevin. And I just find that curious that Colorado is the only state out of 50 that went bluer. What's your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I couldn't agree with you more except for a couple of details, one of which is for the first time in several years, we are sending just as many Republicans to the U.S. House as Democrats. And then the second point is that in our House, the Colorado House of Representatives, we actually did pick up a couple of seats as well. So even with these strong headwinds and And I share your deep concern with how the elections are conducted here in Colorado. At the bare minimum, they are conducted in great secrecy with a complete refusal to show any accountability that we, the people, can actually have a peek at. But we'll leave that aside, probably another discussion for another day. and simply say that I agree that if you look at the – because we still have a radical governor with a House and a Senate that he's fully in charge of. We slipped right outside of the window of being in the super minority, we the Republican side – But it's still a setup for the same that we've seen for many years now. And when I look back at what happened in 2024 and 23 and 22 and 21 and 20 and 18 or 19, not 18, 2019, it has been a radical change. Now, the reason I see that distinction there is in 2018, the Republicans were in charge of the Senate, and we couldn't put forward any legislation because we still were on the ropes in the other house and the governor's office. But we could stop a lot of that, and we did, and I was there. And so, you know, I saw it right from the front row. But after that, we lost it, and we lost the Senate, and it's been getting worse ever since. Well, we held our own in the Senate this last time, but that was it. Anyway, so that's a yes, I agree with you, even though I see little signs of change in the air here in Colorado. But buckle up, because this next legislative session, which just starts in a few days, is probably going to be just as bad as the others, and maybe even worse, because they may— They may see the writing on the wall, I don't know, that their days are numbered.
SPEAKER 13 :
You know, the one question on that, Kevin Lundberg, is we've heard the word on the street is that Jared Polis would like to run for president, possibly in 2028. And so I wonder if they might, because he's trying to paint himself as a libertarian. Although in the first segment I just reported, this was from Complete Colorado, page two, Nash Herman said, As reported, and again, the Denver Post had an article several weeks ago as well, that Colorado had been the fifth fastest growing economy in the country, but it was 41st last year. And again, that's under Jared Polis' control. So what's your thoughts?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, you're quite right that Polis is a very, very shrewd politician. I've been following him pretty carefully yet. I actually ran against him for Congress back in 2012, so you kind of get to know your opponent a little more closely then. And then, of course, I have been following the legislative arena even after terming out very closely. And if you look at the legislative record, and this is probably the best way to judge where Jared Polis is because he signs these bills. And he controls what happens in the legislature as well. If he doesn't like it, it'll die. And there are some really, really wild ideas that have died. I'll grant that. But if you lay up against that, everything that's become law, it is a heavy-handed agenda that really focuses on two or three things. One is... A control of all the property in the state of Colorado. If you're a landowner, if you're a landlord, for example, I know several that have been in that business here in Colorado that have decided it's time to leave. They're selling out and they're moving out because it has become so difficult to actually own and rent a property in Colorado. and the laws, you can see it, it lines up, that's one. Another is their radical adherence to their, you know, this Green New Deal, which means shut down industry, slow down and stop oil and gas production, encourage everybody to go to electric vehicles, even though They don't have a real practical application here in Colorado with our heavy snows in the mountains and the cold weather. All of this doesn't work, not to mention the fact that they're shutting down the base electric energy systems, that being coal plants. And people say, oh, that'll never happen. No, it's already on the books. By 2030, everything is supposed to be gone here in Colorado that's coal production. And I live up in Larimer County where probably the best coal-fired electric plant in the state is, and maybe in the nation, one of the most sophisticated ones, the rawhide plant, designed to go until 2045 at least, and they're shutting it down by 2030 according to their plans now. And then I'm not going to ignore the other big issue that Polis has just been on a tear over, and that's promoting the whole transgender agenda that is attacking our children. And, of course, I'm focused there. I'm even, you know, we worked on an initiative last year and are standing up an organization called Protect Kids Colorado, And that's because the governor has been so intense in the state of Colorado. And if you review and if we've got time, I'd like to review some of the bills that were passed last year that just demonstrate these principles. Not to mention attacking Second Amendment issues, too.
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Right. Well, and it's it's amazing. It just happened as I was looking at thinking about these shows last week and guests and reaching out to you. I thought, I need to get Erin Lee back on as well. And so she's going to be our featured guest in hour number two. And the two of you have been working with your board as well regarding Protect Kids Colorado. So I think it's really important that we do talk about that. So we'll do that when we come back from break. I'm talking with... Kevin Lundberg, former state senator, author of the Lundberg Report. And we have these important discussions because of our sponsors. And for everything residential real estate, reach out to RE-MAX realtor Karen Levine.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. and thank you to laramie energy for their gold sponsorship of the show it's reliable efficient affordable and abundant energy from oil natural gas and coal that powers our lives fuels our hopes and dreams and allows us to control our own personal climate being warm in the winter and cool in the summer i'm talking with Former State Senator Kevin Lundberg, he's the author of the Lundberg Report. He has a weekly call that people all throughout Colorado will dial in on on Monday mornings. Very important discussions there. And Kevin, before we went to break, you mentioned Protect Kids Colorado. and Aaron Lee is the executive director, and we'll talk with her in the second hour. But you had learned of Aaron and John Lee's story regarding their daughter, who had gone to what was supposed to be art club after school. She was 11 or 12 years old, new school, coming out of COVID, shy, And as a parent, you want your kids to be involved, and Art Club sounded like a great idea, but it was actually a transgender indoctrination session. And it was for a few hours, and it took the Lees a significant amount of time to get just those few hours turned around for their adolescent daughter, Kevin.
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Yeah, yeah. If people haven't seen the film Art Club... I highly recommend it. It's up online. No paywall. It's artclubmovie.com. That really tells the story. And it doesn't just tell the story of the Lee family, but it uses them as an example to talk about what's happening nationwide. And yet, let me go back to Colorado, because Colorado does seem to be, you know, you talk about the tip of the spear. Well, we seem to be the tip of the spear here, too. And you'll learn more about that next hour, because Aaron's the real expert on that. But this is an issue that has become so pervasive. It's not an exception anymore. Unfortunately, it's become the rule of the attitudes in far too many public schools around our state and elsewhere. I have devoted a great deal of my time in the past couple of years on this issue because it is such a big deal. And there are parents... and grandparents and just concerned citizens everywhere that are starting to realize this. I actually think that we're going to beat this back nationally. You know, 26 states have passed laws to limit in some way this transgender grooming in schools and sports and libraries, but not here in Colorado. In Colorado, it's the exact opposite. They passed a bill this last year that will require every public school to play the pronoun game with any kid that shows up and says, well, I think I'm a he and she isn't, or whatever else they want to, you know, the non-legal names the schools will be required to use and utilize. And the parents don't know, right?
SPEAKER 13 :
But the parents may not know.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty much the policy in most schools is don't tell the parents. And then at the state of Colorado, one of the bills they passed last year was a bill of rights for foster youth. Okay, well, that sounds appropriate, except if you read it, you discover that the bill cuts out foster families who are not supporting the transgender ideology. In other words, the bill of rights is if that child says, oh, I'm I want to transition. Well, the foster family must, must support that effort on that part of that child. And there are a lot of good, essentially Christian families, but it can be elsewhere too, who say, no, we're not going along with this nonsense. It's not correct. And the foster system in Colorado now says, well, you're just not going to be a foster parent anymore because you must support And that's just one example. You know, here's another one I told you about, non-legal name changes. This is the one, 1039. These are all not bills. These are laws in the state of Colorado today.
SPEAKER 13 :
So one of our listeners, Gammy, is really all over this issue, and she had texted me a picture yesterday, and it is of an adolescent girl, and she doesn't have her shirt on. There appears to be a doctor, so somebody in a white coat with her arms kind of around the child. And the child's breasts have been removed. And this, I think, was a post by somebody that gone through the transgender surgery. That's Chloe Cole, which you probably know. And her meme said, those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. And that's Voltaire. But, Kevin, if you would have told me that in the old days, if somebody came in and I'm just thinking in war or whatever, and they came in and they cut off the breasts and genitals of girls or boys or men or women.
SPEAKER 01 :
Children. Children.
SPEAKER 13 :
You would have said that is an atrocity. And then here we have this happening with government dollars. So our tax money is being used for this to cut off the breasts and genitals of our children. And so surgically and then also from a pharmaceutical standpoint. It is beyond belief. And Colorado is at the tip of the spear on this. And that is it goes right back to Jared Polis.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. Yeah. And understand it's not just the physical things they're doing. They're they're they're chopping up their brains as well. You know, in the sense of of of convincing them right here and now, this is OK. But if you there's another documentary out that somebody I don't know who produced it, but I saw it a year or so ago called The Lost Boys. And there are other movies that have that title, too. But this is a story about five or six men who had been convinced they were women and went through these mutilation processes and now totally regret it and give, you know, give the story of, OK, years later. Well, then what now? But anyway, that's one of the examples of how radical Colorado has become under the current political leadership. And I do put it in the feet of political leaders here, because I don't think the people of Colorado have changed so much as everything else. Here's another one that kind of just shows the absurdity. The bill itself, I don't think, does a whole lot of bad things. But... House Bill 1459 is called birthing equity concerning protections for birthing persons. Now, why cannot they not say for for pregnant women or or something like that? Birthing equity concerning protection for birthing persons. It shows you how bizarre the legislature has become, even in the very language they use today. Oh, it just goes on and on. And I hope we've got a little bit of time to touch on some of these other areas that show what they've done. And believe me, that's what they plan on doing. And you brought up the subject of, well, maybe Polis is going to try to modify it. Well, maybe he will, more so, because I think he realizes he's losing the argument that he is somehow a moderate Democrat. He's nothing but the most liberal, radical change agent that the state of Colorado has ever seen. He's kind of a Tim Walz in a little more measured presentation, if you will. But You know, we've got to make people aware of this. And actually, that's been one of my missions in the last few years politically is to make the nation aware of how radical Jared Polis is. And so I've been working a lot of different ways to just kind of dig deeper and say, no, no, no, look at this. You're just not going to find too many politicians that are this far off the edge.
SPEAKER 13 :
But to your point, Tim Walz was not, I don't think he was a strategic politician. No, no.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's why I use his example is he's kind of in the rough on what they're both all about, which is just burn the place down is basically what they're doing. And somehow they think that's a good idea.
SPEAKER 13 :
One of the things that I find encouraging is that we are starting to see lawsuits against these adults that have done this mutilation to these children. And so lawsuits against the adults, the doctors, the hospitals, I find that very encouraging, Kevin Lumberg.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, well, and of course there, there's the statute of limitations concern, because so many of these things, when it comes to transgender stuff, is you convince the child, and I'm not going to call them a child, not a young adult, but you convince them that this is a really good idea, they go through that, and then many years later, after the statute of limitations has passed, they realize it's a bad idea, and I think one of the ways to address this here in Colorado is, because I don't see our legislature outright banning it right now, but I do see the possibility of making the medical profession more accountable, and probably not through the legislature, even though I hope we have some attempts, and I think there might be a couple of bills that are going to try this. But that's one reason to protect Kids Colorado is there, is so that we the people can stand up and and maybe run another initiative to just extend the statute of limitations when it comes to all these transgender surgeries and prescriptive drugs. If somebody wakes up as an adult and discovers, hey, that doctor, they stole my life from me by what they did, and they should have known better, well, they ought to be held accountable.
SPEAKER 13 :
You know, and that is one of the things regarding A Climate Conversation, which your documentary, ArtClubMovie.com, people can watch that for free. I think if you've not watched that, that's important. And from AClimateConversation.com, we've started a podcast series. And one of the discussions that we had is Greta Thunberg had said, being, I don't know, United Nations or where she was as a young adult. And the accusation was that her childhood was stolen. And I think her childhood was stolen, again, by indoctrination. But that was one of the things that they were trying to say, we need to protect kids' childhoods. But yet, over here on the transgender side, they are taking our children's childhoods. And you mentioned another important point. It's not just the physical. It is the indoctrination that's been going on with their minds as well. And I'd reflected on this, Kevin Lundberg, because first of all, I really have felt that the push towards forced bicycle helmets has been more of a control thing versus a safety thing, because the people pushing that typically haven't shown that they care about children. But we'll leave that out there. But so parents want to be good parents. They put bicycle helmets on their kids because they want to protect them. They want to keep them safe. But yet we are not protecting on what's going on in the inside of their brains. And that's why what you're doing with Art Club Movie and all of the work that you're doing is so important, Kevin.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and, you know, it's interesting you mentioned art. Greta Thunberg as being an example of a child whose brain was twisted in a different direction. Do you know that there was a bill that is now law here in Colorado that instructs the public schools to give a seal of climate literacy to high school diplomas or students' diploma, a seal of climate literacy endorsement? And it's just another example of how they run down or or you mentioned another one. I mean, it's just there's so many things. Can't believe it. Next to tomorrow. Tomorrow, new standards for for child safety seats go into into play as if what they have in place is not enough today. And and your example of, well, do they really care about the child? Let me give you a cold heart example. When I was in the Senate. There was a change in a requirement for a booster seat for a child in a backseat. And Senator Cadman said, well, that doesn't work in my pickup, which is a three quarter size, because if you could put a young younger child on. on a booster seat in my pickup, their head is sitting against the back window. So we need an exception that says, if you've got this kind of vehicle, you shouldn't do that because they should be lower down so that they can be more safe if there is a wreck. And do you know that the highway safety folks that were promoting that would not allow that amendment to go through? That was an exception they weren't willing to accept, even though it was obvious to everybody that the safety of the child demanded that in that special circumstance. And to me, that just opened my eyes so much to so much of these controls they put in place. It's not necessarily because it's better or worse for anybody. It's just that that doesn't fit their agenda. And their agenda is to drive things from the top down rather than to give liberty to the individual family and individual for how they believe their life should be best conducted.
SPEAKER 13 :
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Check out our Web site. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. And do check out the U.S. MC Memorial Foundation. You can still make a tax deductible contribution for this year and support the foundation as they are raising the money for the remodel for the Marine Memorial Foundation. out at 6th and Colfax. And to do that, go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Kevin Lundberg is on the line. He is a former state senator, also the author of the Lundberg Report. Lots of important comments coming in on the text line, Kevin, regarding our children. But let's talk about just a few of these other laws that are going to be going into effect tomorrow. And they're all about control, from what I can see. What's your thoughts?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, yeah, and actually a couple of things. One, a lot of the bills I've been talking about that have become law are already in effect. But you're quite right. As of January 1st, there will be a few that will kick in gear at that point. One of them that I think is just absurd, and another one of those you can't believe is happening, is the control on hens that lay eggs. They've changed the rules on what that means here in Colorado so that, I don't know if you've noticed, but I was rather shocked a few weeks ago looking, I went to a grocery store and the egg section was empty and discovered it's because all the suppliers couldn't, or were gearing up for this new law that goes into effect tomorrow. And the price of eggs has just skyrocketed. I mean, it, it, It's gone up nationally for other reasons, but here in Colorado, they just supercharged it with this new law. Now, the law, this is an interesting one, was actually passed in 2020. And that was, let's see, what was it? House Bill 1343 back in 2020, but it said by January 1st, 2025, All hen-laying eggs in larger production facilities. Quite fortunately, my five hens are held safe, even though, frankly, they're in a cage-free environment. Well, they're in a cage because if they aren't, the coyotes will eat them.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right, to protect them.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
So I wrote an essay on that back in 2020, and I think we'll see if we might republish that, because I said that what would happen is the prices would go up and we would see shortages, and that's exactly what it is. And for a dozen eggs, I remember when it used to be $2.99. Right now I'm being charged $8.99 for a dozen eggs. And think about that family that would – cook eggs for their kids. It's a great protein source. And here they're getting squeezed because of that. And again, they passed it and then they put it out there so far in the future that they really don't have to be accountable to the voters on that. And so we need to make some changes on that.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right, right. But do remember that the current governor is the one who signed that bill back in 2020. And he's the same guy who signed the bill to reintroduce wolves in Colorado. And now the ranchers are, I mean, they knew what was going to happen. Believe me, that's just another example of what's happening. Here's another one. And that is, it's called secure firearm storage in a vehicle while unattended. Well... What that really means is if you carry a weapon in your car for any personal protection issues, and I know a lot of people who have done that regularly, well, now you've got to lock it up if you leave your car. Well, and lock it up doesn't mean lock the door to your car. That means put it in the trunk or put it in a hard case so that you need a key to get into it. You have essentially disarmed the citizen. who considers a firearm to be an essential part of what they carry in their car. I think that's completely unacceptable, but that's another law that goes into effect tomorrow. You know, I already mentioned the child restraint laws. Well, here's another one that has to do with your car, and that is that any driver... must use a hands-free system to make calls while driving. Now, I say any. Right now, it applies to youth, you know, a driver under 18, I think it is, which maybe is acceptable because we have kind of an incremental system of allowing somebody to drive. In other words, you get a learner's permit at first, and there are certain restrictions, and then finally... When you're 21, you're considered to be ready to drive as an adult. Well, now the adults are told, but you can't use your phone. Oh, but then if you look at the exceptions, it's remarkable. Because if you're a commercial driver, you can use your phone. If you're an emergency police or emergency people, you can use your phone. And what I mean by use your phone is pick it up, dial it, hold it, talk to somebody. No, instead you restrict the hands-free. Well, some vehicles kind of accommodate that, but not everybody, not everything. There's no exception there. So here's another one of those control measures where they're putting in place. It just goes on and on. Anyway, those are the ones that I have highlighted for going into effect on January 1st. But if you go through all the other lists, it's just so extensive of what has already kicked in. You know, I... uh let me just scan through here i've got about 30 bills that i've identified um that i mean the the list couldn't stop oh here's one let me talk to you about oil and gas for a little bit because they threw a lot of controls on the oil and gas industry and we have just about a minute on on this so uh i know it's just a silver lining thing i am so pleased that the president has selected Chris Wright to be his secretary of energy because this is a guy who works and lives in Colorado who understands the oil and gas industry like very few people can. I don't know him personally, but I've heard him talk, and I just became a fan of him immediately. And now he is going to be running the energy department for our nation. I can't help but think that he's going to do some things that are going to help us back here in Colorado.
SPEAKER 13 :
I surely hope so. Kevin Lundberg, I so appreciate looking back and looking forward, and we'll continue this. Last year during the legislative session, we had you on once a week, and hopefully we can do that as well. So I wish you and yours a very happy New Year.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, we haven't talked about that, but it's a deal.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, so it's on the air. So happy New Year, Kevin Lundberg. We will talk very soon.
SPEAKER 15 :
Thank you. Happy New Year, Kim.
SPEAKER 13 :
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SPEAKER 13 :
That seems to me like government is establishing a religion. If you give people rights, women's rights, gay rights, whatever, there can't be equal rights if there are special rights. Surveys show that people still really prefer freedom over government force.
SPEAKER 20 :
Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
SPEAKER 13 :
Indeed. Let's have a conversation. And welcome to our number two of the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You're each treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Tuesday and Happy New Year, Producer Joe. Happy New Year, Kim. 2025. We've got a lot to do in 2025, Joe, and I'm pretty excited about it. So fasten your seatbelts. We are pre-recording for tomorrow for New Year's Day. We pre-recorded our number one yesterday with Susan Harris, a great sponsor of the show, the Harris family, and just really a good conversation looking back and looking forward. And then we will pre-record with Trent Luce here tomorrow. A little bit later this morning. And so but we're we're we're in it. And as you all know, we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to use force to implement it. And check out the website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You'll get first look at our upcoming guests and our most recent essays that comes out on Sundays. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com. Text line is 720-605-0647. Thank you to all of you who support us because we are truly an independent voice. And you can listen to the show 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. The first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour is broadcast 10 to 11 at night. And that is on all KLZ 560 platforms. That's KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, and the KLZ app. So let's get into it. Our word of the day is indignation. And it is spelled I-N-D-I-G indignation. N-A-T-I-O-N. And it could, number one, that's a noun, it could be, definition is anger aroused by something perceived as unjust, mean, or unworthy. Anger. Number two, the feeling excited by that which is unworthy, base, disgraceful. Anger mingled with contempt, disgust, or abhorrence. And as this discussion that we had with Kevin Lundberg regarding legislation and the fact that this governor, Governor Jared Polis, has really been behind and pushing this transgender agenda with this radical activist extreme movement. legislature as well. This, my friends, this Democrat Party is not the Democrat Party of JFK or of your grandpa and grandma. This has now been taken over by radical activists that are pushing ultimately a communist agenda of total control of the populace. And we in Colorado are at the tip of the spear on that. And it is with great indignation that I look at these agendas. And so your Your challenge is to use the word indignation in a word today and it's spelled I-N-D-I-G-N-A-T-I-O-N, indignation. Our quote of the day is from Benjamin Franklin. And of course he was one of our founding fathers. He was a drafter and signer of the Declaration of Independence. And he said, without freedom of thought, there can be no wisdom and no such thing as public liberty without freedom of speech. And so over the last four years during the Biden-Harris administration, we have really seen this effort to shut down voices. And actually, it was even before that with political correctness, where people would self-censor because they did not want to offend someone else. And quite frankly, freedom of speech It's the freedom to offend somebody. And ideally, we want to treat others with respect and not be mean in our speech. However, if somebody wants to do that, they can. And the old saying, The adage of sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me. Words do hurt. They definitely do. But we need to figure out how to deal with that instead of trying to suppress speech. And that's why we do the show is so that we can kick the tires on all of these different ideas, which is so important. And a wonderful sponsor of the show is the Boson Law Firm, John Boson. And John Boson, welcome. First of all, Happy New Year.
SPEAKER 06 :
Happy, healthy, and hopefully very healthy and prosperous New Year.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. I know we are all looking forward with hope and optimism towards 2025 with also, I think, a dose of realism. We know that we're in a very difficult situation in our country and particularly here in Colorado, but I think people are rolling up their sleeves. They're engaging in this battle of ideas, and that is so, so important. But I want to talk with you. First of all, what is your tips for New Year's Eve on people staying safe?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, they're out and about on the town. And I tell my kids this to this day. Even though they're all adults, it's still keep your head on a swivel. Be observant. Know what is going on around you. And don't celebrate so much that you don't know what's going on around you. And if there's a problem... Get away from it quickly, without hesitation.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. So good advice. I love the John Boson dad-isms. But let's say something does happen. Somebody is involved in an accident. What are some tips that people should do?
SPEAKER 06 :
There's so many. One of the most important things, if you're the person that has been involved in the accident or the incident, and you're able, do whatever you can to document what just happened. If it's a motor vehicle collision, there's people in the vehicle that are able, document. If folks come up and say, hey, I just saw what happened, make sure you get their name and their phone number. Call the police so they can do an official investigation and document and determine what happened and who was at fault. If it's an incident, slip and fall. Document or have someone document what caused the fall, what caused the trip. If it's ice, take pictures of what happened. If it's a bad staircase or a railing that's not set, take pictures. Document, document, document. And if possible, have other people document so that they can tell what happened, what they saw, what they observed. Photographs, videos, in this day and age, there's really no excuse for someone not to have both of those things when something happens. Again, if they're able, if they're not, hopefully they're with someone that can document or a good Samaritan or stranger can come up and hopefully provide that documentation. Super important. Because liability, why did it happen? Is someone at fault? It's the first thing that needs to be accomplished if someone is going to pursue justice and get compensated for what happened to them.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and I think it seems like a no-brainer that we would say, okay, pull out your cell phone, take some pictures. But the other thing is that the adrenaline gets flowing if somebody's involved, even in a fender bender. And sometimes, many times, people don't really think straight. And so the fact that we talk about this on a regular basis, I think, is so important so that people can think, oh, remember about that. Because, again, if you're involved in an accident, your adrenaline is really flowing, and sometimes you just don't think clearly.
SPEAKER 06 :
It happens all the time. I talked with an individual yesterday. It was a fender bender. It wasn't a huge accident, but he was injured. His car suffered property damage. They didn't call the police. It was not his fault. He got a picture of the person's ID, their driver's license. You can't read the name. You can't make out the address, the license plate. He took a picture, but he didn't look to see that he took a picture that you could look at later and tell who this person was. Didn't get any insurance information. Didn't even get a phone number. So it's going to make it extraordinarily difficult. Didn't take a picture of the person's car or the license plate on the car. Nothing else. His adrenaline was flowing. He wasn't thinking right. It's going to be extraordinarily difficult to help this person at this point because we don't know who that person was that hit him. tough one.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wow. Wow. Okay. So documentation, make sure that everything is clear on that. Wow. Okay. That's so important. If somebody has been injured, document and then call Boson Law. What's that number for Boson Law? 303-999-9999. And again, hopefully stay safe. That's what we really want. But if in fact you are injured, give Bosun Law a call for a complimentary appointment or a phone call. And that number is 303-999-9999. John Bosun, I so appreciate you as a sponsor and I wish you and yours a joyful and healthy and prosperous 2025. Let's fasten our seatbelts because we're going to engage in this battle of ideas.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's just getting started, Kim, as you and I know. It's a long battle, a lot of battles ahead of us.
SPEAKER 13 :
And we're going to engage in those for sure.
SPEAKER 06 :
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SPEAKER 13 :
Well, we'll stay on it, John Bosen, and we'll talk with you next week. So thank you so much.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you, Kim. Take care.
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SPEAKER 13 :
And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I want to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show because it's reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams. This industry is under legislative and regulatory attack here in Colorado, and yet Colorado is rich in these resources. And so it's so important that we shed light on what is happening with all this because reliable energy allows us to control our own personal climate, to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer. And so that's why we need to shed light on this. I am so pleased to have Erin Lee on the line. She is the executive director of Protect Kids Colorado. We want to look back and look forward. We talked a little bit about this with Kevin Lumberg in the first hour. Erin Lee, welcome. Hi, Kim. Happy New Year's Eve. Happy New Year. And you are you are such an inspiration. And it started with your daughter going to what you thought was our club. It was a transgender indoctrination session. And of course, your journey is people can see that in the movie. artclubmovie.com for free. But you are out there working. Last year, we tried to get some initiatives on the ballot. It was not successful, but you're not giving up. So let's look back and let's look forward with Protect Kids Colorado.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, so we were formed in 2024. Actually, you mentioned Senator Kevin Lundberg was on earlier today. He was the person who brought together a group of mighty believers, legislators, pastors, movers and shakers, people that just cared about making positive change here in Colorado, especially surrounding this issue of the transgender contagion and the stranglehold that it has on our state in particular. And, you know, we recognize that it's very hard to get common sense legislation through our legislature here in Colorado. And that citizens ballot initiatives are a great alternative for we the people to actually put forth just common sense, middle of the road legislation that most Coloradans can get on board with. And that's what we learned in the process. You know, we ran two initiatives. We actually filed 20. And we went through a very hostile title board and only got two initiatives through. But one would have just prevented boys, biological males, from participating in female sports. And the other would have just said if you transition a child to the opposite sex at school, you must tell their parent. It wasn't really preventing them from doing it, just ensuring that parents are informed. And what we found is that most Coloradans agreed with these issues. But we also found that most Coloradans had no idea that this was a problem. You know, a lot of people just don't know anything. that these issues are affecting so many Colorado families. And so it was a tremendously successful education campaign of the people in the state to help educate on these issues and let them know that, yes, these are problems, here's what we're facing, and here's some really easy solutions that we're bringing forward.
SPEAKER 13 :
So you mentioned the title board and getting these initiatives on the ballot. I think there's real politics that goes into that because you were continued to be delayed at the title board. And so what that did is that compressed the amount of time for your all-volunteer group to get signatures and to organize all volunteers. People are busy. I know me personally, I didn't quite realize how long it actually takes because it's not that I would just knock on a door. I decided to go to my neighbors. Then they wanted to talk about it. They wanted to understand it. And so it took a lot longer to get signatures than I realized that it was going to. So when the title board continued to challenge or have these challenges at the title board, it compressed that timeframe. So I know that that was an experience that you and the other board members are going to strategize on in the future.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. So we should have had six months to collect signatures. And we started the process back in November of 2023. So we started filing these initiatives and going through the process. We went before the title board January 3rd. of 2024 that's when we kicked it off and they they did it's comprised of the secretary of state representative and attorney general representative and then legislative legal services and as you can imagine in this state the ag and the sos are not friendly to issues like ours and their job is to be objective and to simply determine if these initiatives are a single subject but they went so far as to say the word parent was too broad to be a single subject So it was clear right off the bat that this was not an objective process, that there was bias being demonstrated. And so we had hurdles we didn't anticipate going into this first round. And when we finally got the initiatives through, we had less than 100 days to get the signatures. But we did rally over 1,000 volunteers in a very short amount of time, and we got nearly 70,000 signatures of the required 125,000 signatures. which means that if we had had that full timeline, we would have been the first all-volunteer effort to get these issues on the ballot. So we really pulled out a tremendous volunteer effort with such a limited timeline. But going into the next round, we are aware. of the bias that's being demonstrated. We're aware of these hurdles, and we will be tackling it way in advance to ensure that we have that six-month timeline. And we hope that Coloradans will jump in. You know, like you said, you took some petitions, and all you have to do is talk to your neighbors, talk to the people at church, talk to your mom group. Everyone knows someone who agrees that these issues are important in Colorado.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, what happened with me, Erin, is I thought, oh, I go to all these different organizations, and so I'll be able to get signatures. Well, all my buddies were carrying petitions as well, and they beat me to it. So what I ended up doing was walking my neighborhood and just knocking on doors. And I talked with neighbors I hadn't for a while. And so, again, that took time as well, just the catch-up. But they were not aware of what this agenda is doing here in Colorado and to our children. And so the two initiatives that made it through, like you say, just common sense, that if a child is wanting to be using different pronouns or there's also this whole different species thing that parents were not even aware of. and that the parents just needed to know. That's just as common sense. And then keeping boys out of girls' locker rooms. I think just about everybody agrees on that. It's crazy that we would have boys in girls' locker rooms.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's crazy that we can't get these things passed through the legislature. You know, last year they passed 1039, which is the non-legal name change, which now compels teachers' speech. It forces any public educator to socially transition a child. And this was really a way for us to say, okay, we couldn't stop that, but you need to tell parents. And when it was going through the legislature, we pushed really hard for an amendment to just make sure parents are informed. and that you know democrats just unilaterally across the board were against it And so this was really a way for us to say, okay, we can't win on overturning that law in the legislature. But most Coloradans agree parents shouldn't be lied to. And it has a great damaging effect on these kids. Our story is a perfect example. As you said, you know, Kevin and I put out Art Club Movie. It's artclubmovie.com just a few months before we started this effort because it was important to let people know, yes, this is happening in Colorado. This is not an isolated issue. And since I've come forward, I've worked with hundreds of families here in Colorado. I'm actually working with a few families now that fled to Colorado from California in order to not lose custody of their children for not affirming their gender identity. And I fear that we're not far behind yet. here in Colorado, that the laws that they're passing around this issue are such that parents could potentially lose custody of their kids for not going along with the gender transition. And as I learned in my family, it was incredibly damaging for my daughter to adopt that identity. It nearly took her life trying to go on this impossible pursuit to change her sex. And thank God we were able to not affirm and help her get through that. But most families aren't so lucky. So it's not a remote issue. It's absolutely affecting hundreds of Coloradans. And it's important that we pass some kind of a law that protects these kids from being socially transitioned behind parents' backs.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and the website is protectkidscolorado.org. And I love this quote that you have on the website. It says, everyone has a deep-rooted responsibility to protect our kids. And we do, whether or not it's grandparents, parents, community members, that is something that is absolutely fundamental for a society to thrive and flourish. And so I think that's such an important quote that you have there.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, we all have a responsibility. I mean, there's no one more worth protecting than innocent children. And it was amazing to see all the people come together today. in this effort. It was grandparents, you know, the gays against groomers stepped in, the radical feminists who, you know, I fundamentally disagree on just about everything with, but we agree that men aren't women and that we should protect women's faces and we should protect the most vulnerable, which is the children in Colorado. So there's really no effort that's more worth getting involved in than protecting innocent children in the state.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, and so what can people do right now in preparation for 2025? Because we really need to roll up our sleeves and do something about this. So what should people do?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, so obviously our effort takes funding. We are entirely grassroots. So we're all volunteers. As I said, we're all believers that came together to do kingdom work to protect kids. And so we need funding in order to run these initiatives. It's not a free process. And also people can sign up to volunteer. And as you experienced, that can be as easy as carrying a petition and trying to get 80 signatures once we get to that point, which will probably be about four to six months from now once we tackle the title board. And we'll be bringing very similar issues, again, very middle of the road, common sense, protecting kids. So I encourage people to donate if you can. It's still one day left here in the year end. And also sign up to volunteer. And that will look differently for everybody. But we'll have lots of opportunities to help educate, to carry petitions, to show up at the legislature this session, to make our voices heard. We've learned leading up to this process that not a lot of people show up in Colorado to pay attention to the laws that are being passed. And if more of us would show up to make our voice heard, and you can do that remotely via Zoom, then we could potentially make change and not even have to get to this ballot initiative process by utilizing the mighty now 21 in the Colorado House. So sign up to volunteer, donate if you can, and sign up for our email list to just stay involved with what we're doing. We'll have a lot of event opportunities, volunteer opportunities, and ways to get involved this year.
SPEAKER 13 :
And is the contributions tax deductible?
SPEAKER 12 :
So we are a C4. They are not. But if there's a large contributor, I would love to speak with them about our C3 sponsor.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, that's great. We're going to continue the discussion with Erin Lee. She's the executive director of ProtectKidsColorado.org. And we're at the tip of the spear on this particular issue here in Colorado. And so it is so important that we understand it. And so we'll continue the discussion. This happens because of our great sponsors. And one of those is Lavaca Meat Company. And Lavaca is located on the corner of Maine and Nevada in Old Littleton. And it is really a premium product. It is truly the steakhouse experience at home. So be sure and check out Lavaca Meat Company.
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SPEAKER 13 :
And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. And you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I mentioned I'm an independent voice. That is why... and your support is so, so important. But just wanted to mention the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team. They know that there are unknowns that can keep you up at night, and that is why they can help with your insurance and health insurance needs to replace lost income. So call Roger Mangan at 303-795-8855 for a complimentary appointment. Like a good neighbor, that Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team is there. I'm talking with... the executive director of Protect Kids Colorado. That website is protectkidscolorado.org. And Aaron Lee, we seem to be, again, at the tip of the spear with all of this radical transgender activism attacks on our children. On the national level, President-elect Donald Trump has said that he is going to work to protect kids. How is all this going to match up?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I mean, our country clearly sent a strong message that we're sick of woke. We're tired of this transgender agenda and we're ready for a new direction. But as we saw with the overturning of Roe v. Wade, Trump respects state rights. And it's my firm belief that Colorado will get worse before it gets better. You know, we're one of 24 states that has not passed laws to protect kids from gender ideology. 26 states have banned gender mutilation of children in the name of gender ideology and have sought to protect girls' sports. But we're in one of the states that has gone the opposite direction, has really doubled down and advanced this transgender agenda. And so I do believe that we're going to have a bigger fight here in these states, especially here in Colorado, once Trump takes office. Now, there are some issues that he's made clear. He wants to protect girls' sports. He wants to prevent the mutilation of children. He's clearly taking a stand against it. But on issues like the one that is most personal to me, notifying parents that children have been transitioned at school and preventing schools from teaching kids gender ideology in first grade, which, by the way, is now a state mandate in the state of Colorado. Schools are now required to teach kids about trans and queer starting in first grade. So I do believe the fight will get even harder here. And we're going to need national help from the states that are preventing these issues to step in and help us fight back and hold the line. What happens in Colorado does not stay here.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and I think it is correct that it's a state issue, and I think we need to honor that. So that means, again, we roll up our sleeves and we go to work on this. Now, you are up in Larimer County, and it seems like up in Larimer County that that is ground zero for this fight regarding this in public schools. Is that too much of an overstatement, Erin Lee? Yes.
SPEAKER 12 :
Not at all. You know, my top two worst districts are Jeffco and Poudre here in Larimer County. And if you look at the funding of these two districts, Pat Stryker lives in Fort Collins and Tim Gill largely funds Jeffco. So for anyone who's read The Blueprint or has looked into how Colorado flipped blue, these are two billionaires and millionaires that are funding the transgender movement. And so it's no surprise that their money pours into the Larimer County and to Jeffco schools. and that they're really leading the charge, those two districts, on lying to parents, transitioning children, you know, boys sleeping in the girls' room, teaching these kind of ideologies, and really doubling down on it. Now, I have an ongoing lawsuit against the Poudre School District. Actually, Pam Bondi, who's going to be our next attorney general, took our case. So I'm represented by America First Policy Institute. And they'll be here on January 21st, arguing our appeal on the 10th Circuit here in Denver. And so there's a lot at stake here in our case as to defining parents and ensuring that parents aren't lied to. So Colorado really is ground zero for this agenda, and Puder and Jeffco are leading the charge.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and Erin Lee, as I was doing my voter's guide for the 2024 election, there were a number of different school districts that were asking for new funding for bonds or for mill levy overrides. And most of them passed because people think education of our children is important, which it is. However, as I was researching these different school districts, even the best uh school district a 60 yeah about 60 of the kids maybe it's 50 i'll say that 50 of the kids in third grade cannot read and write at grade level but but and one of the reasons is because we've taken our focus off of really educating our kids if you have a teacher that is having to have this whole pronoun thing and play that pronoun game, it takes the focus off of reading, writing, arithmetic, civic studies, all of those things. And our kids are getting dumbed down. So not only are they being told that boys are girls and girls are boys, they're also getting dumbed down at the same time.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah. Statewide, that number is actually closer to 70 percent of children cannot read or do math at grade level. And as you said, the reason is we've dumbed down the curriculum, but we've also put such a focus on administration. So well-meaning people, I mean, we all want our public schools to do well. We want our kids to succeed. And people think that when they vote for these mill levies, their money will go to the right people. parts of the school districts. But the reality is that since this happened with my daughter four years ago, our district has added millions of dollars in administration. So we've got a new superintendent and he just keeps adding new administrative roles like an LGBTQ coordinator and a DEI coordinator. And none of this helps the kids succeed academically. We're just throwing more money at DEI, at administration, at these initiatives like comprehensive sex ed and teaching kids about transgenderism in first grade. And it does not do anything to help them succeed in life, really. The money is being squandered. And it broke my heart to see every single one of the school districts get that money. Because we know it's not going to go towards helping kids. It's not going to go towards teacher pay even. Our teachers are so underserved. And unfortunately, their administrations are just they don't care about the teachers or the students. They care about pushing these agendas. That's very clear. And a lot of the reason they ask for more money is because COVID funds ran out and they got used to spending it on these things like a bigger administrative staff.
SPEAKER 13 :
So what can we do? I've mentioned this on the air. So Trump with Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy has started DOGE, the Department of Government Efficiency. And I think that we need to have DOGE Colorado. We need to have DOGE Poudre School District. where we go in and take a look at the money as citizens, shed light on where this money is being spent. And for example, any federal grants that are coming down to push agendas, I think that we need to encourage our municipalities, our school districts, our counties to not take the money. And that would start to, I think, affect this printing of money in Washington, D.C. I know this is a big order, but But I think if we cut the money off, that'll be a big step in the right direction, Erin Lee.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, that's a big order. I think so much of the change that needs to be made here in Colorado needs to happen at the local level. Parents, grandparents, concerned citizens, they need to pay attention to what the school board is doing. Go to the school board meeting or watch it back. Most of them record it and put it on replay on YouTube. Watch what your school board is doing. Show up and make your voice heard. Suggest these things. Most school districts have a district advisory council or a district advisory board. where parents can get involved or grandparents and make these suggestions directly to their school boards. Because we are a local control state. School boards have, you know, majority of the control. The state board dictates the curriculum, sorry, not the curriculum, but the standards. But districts get to choose their own curriculum. They get to choose how they spend their money. We really need to start making our voices heard at a local level. We have seen change happen when people collectively get together and show up and make their voice heard to their school board. Change can be made.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, so let's, young families, they're just trying to keep everything together, I think. There's so many different pressures on them, and so many of them do not think that this agenda is occurring in their school. And there's so many teachers that got into the profession because they just want to teach because they love children. What would you say to these young families and these teachers that are getting caught Colorado?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, well, as a parent of three kids in three different schools, I can't stress enough that are not traditional public schools. I can't stress enough that we've got to get our kids out of the public school system. You know, I draw attention to what they're doing to try to help parents be aware, but I think we're going to have to hit them in the wallet. And I'm hitting them with lawfare, as are other parents here in the state. But the nonsense will stop when the money stops flowing in. And it's our tax dollars from sending our kids to these schools. So I firmly believe that every parent should consider pulling their kids out of traditional public schools. And as you said, parents think that it's not happening to them. It's not happening in their schools. I thought the same thing. And then it was too late when it did happen. And oftentimes it's so subtle. You know, they're starting these pronoun conversations in kindergarten. They're starting lessons about Harvey Milk and sex work in first grade. They're reading books about how boys can become girls in second grade. It's been just inserted into every area of of our public education system here in Colorado. And it's no longer safe for parents to send their kids to public schools. I truly believe that. I took a night job to pay for private Christian school for my daughter. I drive 30 minutes each way to take my son to a conservative charter. We sacrificed for our kids. But I like to tell parents, you either sacrifice for your kids or you are sacrificing your kids on this altar of wokeism. And oftentimes it's so subtle, you can't even detect that the indoctrination is happening to your kids. So I firmly believe parents should pull their kids out. And if not, pay more attention and take a more active role. I know that requires sacrifice, but there's nothing more important than protecting our children.
SPEAKER 13 :
So that is the next thing is, is if people in any school that their child is in, how can we get transparency on these books? And one of the first things I think that we need to go back to books and paper, because when kids are on computers or iPads, all that stuff can disappear. And so how do we get transparency in what our kids are being shown?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, it should be easy. Parents should be able to ask and be shown. We even tried to pass a law in 2022 that just said if a parent asks, you must show them. And unfortunately, that's not a law here in Colorado. We don't have full curriculum transparency. And that means parents have to work a little bit harder. But I just caution parents to read everything that comes home. Send a message to the teacher on the first day of school and say, here's what I will and will not tolerate. If these issues are being presented to my kids, I expect to be notified. And open every book that comes home and utilize the power of public record request. I didn't know what that was prior to our incident happening, but Colorado Open Record Act enabled any citizen to request anything a school district is doing, be it curriculum, finances, outside party involvement. You are the person funding your school district and they are beholden to you. And so utilize public record requests if you have to, but just ask for the materials first and open everything that comes home.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, super important. And again, Erin Lee, your final thought, and that website is protectkidscolorado.org, and you can sign up to volunteer and make a contribution there. Your final thought.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes, and just encourage people to watch artclubmovie.com to really understand the issue and share it with others because it starts with education, and then we can move on to the phase of making change. But our first responsibility is just to inform our neighbors of what's happening.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, absolutely. Erin Lee, thank you so much. And I wish you and yours a very joyful and healthy and prosperous 2025. We'll talk again very soon. Thanks, Ken. And when I think about protecting kids and what Erin Lee is doing and Kevin Lundberg and Lori Gimmelstein and Rich Guggenheim and Patty McKernan, Linda White, all of these people that I know that are working diligently to protect Kids Colorado, I also take great heart from the stories of our Medal of Honor recipients today. that are highlighted at the Center for American Values because they were protecting those around them as well. And that is why they took action when the situation presented itself, to protect those around them. And I take great heart from their story. So be sure and check out the Center for American Values. That is AmericanValuesCenter.org. That's AmericanValuesCenter.org. And for everything mortgages, whether or not a first, second, or reverse mortgage, reach out to Lauren Levy.
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SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, Kim. Good morning and Happy New Year. Happy New Year. When you were talking about the children, they've been attacking them with sports as well as, you know, like field days. They no longer have winners or losers. And everybody wins, supposedly. But what that does is it takes away from children how to deal with adversity. So whether you win or lose and striving to be better, but it takes away their ability to handle adversity. And I think the governor and the mayor, illegitimate governor and illegitimate mayor, realize this, and that's what they're pushing.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and I think to your point, we've not been teaching adversity and resiliency like we used to because we all have adversity and we need to be resilient, teach our kids to be resilient. And I think that that even plays out in the suicide of our children as well by just these subtle things, Ron.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. And when kids, that's why they just don't know how to handle it when it comes up and you're an adult. That's why they attack them while they're children and affects them when they go into the military. And people with weak constitutions try to push it onto the children so they can justify their weak constitution.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's a really interesting point, Ron. And so again, that is another thing that we need to be teaching. And it can be through these different stories, the stories of our founders, the stories of our Medal of Honor recipients. We need to be highlighting these stories of people that have overcome adversity and resiliency. So Ron, thank you so much. I wish you and yours a very joyful and healthy and prosperous 2025. We'll talk to you in 2025.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you, Kim. You too. Goodbye.
SPEAKER 13 :
And Gammy is on the line. And Gammy, you are so on top of this whole transgender issue. What's on your radar?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, my two heroes are on here, so I have to say hello, happy new year, and hope to see you in the new one because I might be turning a little older, but I'm getting more fierce now.
SPEAKER 13 :
And let me be the first to wish you happy birthday. Your birthday is tomorrow.
SPEAKER 14 :
Thank you. Right, after midnight. I may have been the first baby born in Wiesbaden in 1950, but I'm not sure. It was like four in the morning. Don't remember for sure. Right, to the issue. You're so spot on. But one of the things that is so insidious is remember Matt Walsh did his movie, What is a Woman? And then the other movie, American Groomer, that's now being made available by Karen England. It's only like 30 some minutes. You've got to watch it. You can get a rumble, you know, YouTube, wherever. But what people are not aware of as parents, one of the big issues is is that the American College of Pediatricians did a big press conference and released their findings against all procedures, mental and physical, chemical, against any minors. And their idea of minors is over 21 because of certain parts of the brain don't develop to, like, what, your mid-20s. And then the spine, you know, and other things. But you have got counselors here. clinics being set up in every school possible all over the nation. And what's happening is half of these counselors are not qualified. They're inept, period. And they're so into the dogma, like the Trevor Project is surveys. It's not science. And the whole trans movement is not psychology. It is mental science. ideology of mental illness. And yet they're using these things to create the gender confusion. So our target as parents, as citizens, is those counselors in every school in America and the curricula created by both Cassell, S-E-L, social emotional learning, and all of the other rich billionaires paying for all this curricula, the guilds, the strikers, the bridges, the Pritzkers and the Rothblats and others. They are putting the curricula in here, and it translates into Julie Bailing's Beneath Sheep's Clothing. It translates into Marxist Terrorism and Destruction of Western Civilization.
SPEAKER 13 :
It is, and Gammy, you are so spot on and you are so informed on this. And I just saw this come through on X from Leading Report. It says, Harry Potter creator J.K. Rowling states that there is no such thing as a transgender child and that no child is born in the wrong body. And my, my, my, they're going to be going after her, Gammy.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes, they are. And they're after Aaron. They're after you. They're after all of us. And I've made a decision, you know, I'm going to take more training. I'm going to start back at my self-defense, you know, because I had to recover from my surgery. But I'm going back. I wrote that big letter here just two weeks ago, you know, to all the legislators or, you know, as many as I could get my hands on and commissioners.
SPEAKER 13 :
And what is so important, Gammy, is because we're just about out of time, is you truly do walk your talk and you really do care about our children. And I know that you're fervent on this because you've looked under the hood. You see what is really happening to our children. And I appreciate all of the great work that you are doing on this. So, Gammy, I wish you happiness. A really joyful and healthy and prosperous 2025. We'll roll our sleeves up and we have work to do, Gammy.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes, ma'am, we do. And I'm with you. And I love all of y'all. And I love our kids to the last drop of my blood. I'm in this.
SPEAKER 13 :
I know that you are. And it is so important that we shed light on this. So it's great to have Kevin Lundberg on. And he, with Aaron Lee and John Lee, created this movie to know more about this. It's artclubmovie.com. You can watch it for free. And I would highly recommend that you do that so that you understand what is going on, because we have a responsibility to protect our children, to protect those around us. And we are in this significant battle of ideas. It's a battle of good versus evil. It's not really left versus right or Democrat versus Republican. It is really right or wrong, good versus evil. And we are dedicated to stay in this battle of ideas that is raging here in Colorado. We are at the tip of the spear. And I'm very encouraged, though. We've got a lot that's happening. So our quote for the end of this show is from Benjamin Franklin. He said, So, my friends, today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. You're not alone. God bless you, God bless America, and Happy New Year.
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Eirene (ay-RAY-nay) is the Greek word for peace. Eirene appears in the Bible 92 times with multiple significant meanings, from reconciliation with God to tranquility in the soul.
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Eirene
Transcript of FLOT Line 1010 aired on December 29, 2024
Good morning and welcome to The FLOT Line. I hope you had a wonderful Christmas and are
ready to start the new year which is not very far away. It’s a great honor to be speaking to you
this morning. Thank you to all 50 states tuning in. What a great privilege it is for me to bring you
the Word of God every Sunday morning on this radio network. Today we are going to talk about
the wonderful thing called peace, the wonderful peace that God will provide as we go through
the coming year. Luke 2:14 gives these words,
“Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace
among men with whom He is pleased.”
I don’t know if you remember who said this but it was
spoken by the commander of the angelic army, an elect angel known as the King of Arms. These
words were spoken the night that Mary gave birth to Jesus, the God-man. Yes, Jesus Christ was
God and man, undiminished deity and true humanity in one body forever. Paul wrote something
about this in Philippians 2:8-11. My very own pastor, Bobby Thieme, taught this recently about
how you cannot really appreciate the birth of the Lord Jesus Christ until you understand this
passage as well,
“Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming
obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. For this reason also, God highly exalted
Him and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus
every knee will bow, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and that every
tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”
Yes, glory to God
in the highest and peace on earth among men through Jesus Christ. This birth of the Lord Jesus
Christ is the single most important event in the history of the world. It’s the one thing that
guarantees the resolution of the angelic conflict and it guarantees peace between God and man.
The Apostle Peter stated the peace that we can have starts with 2 Peter 1:2,
“Grace and peace be
multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord.”
This peace can be yours today
through a relationship with Christ Jesus. In Philippians 4:7 Paul wrote,
“And the peace of God,
which surpasses all comprehension, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.”
This is a phenomenal way to live. This is a phenomenal asset believers have, peace with God -
eternal peace with God knowing that you're going to heaven and peace with God in time. Jesus
Christ Himself said this as recorded in John 16:33 when He spoke to the disciples,
“These things
I have spoken to you, so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation, but
take courage; I have overcome the world.”
The amazing thing about what our Lord says is that
He does not guarantee you a life free of conflict but He does assure you that you can maintain a
relaxed mental attitude in spite of the circumstances. In spite of what you may be going through,
you can have peace if you use God's wonderful problem-solving devices. We teach this as having
a FLOT line in your soul. We’re going to show you why this is important in your life in the study
this morning. In John 14:27 here’s what the Lord told the disciples,
“Peace I leave with you; My
peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you.
[He is not going to take it back like
the world does.]
Do not let your heart be troubled, nor let it be fearful.”
This is indicative of
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what our Lord was thinking while He was going through circumstances. The same peace He had,
the same relaxed mental attitude He had, the same trust He had, the same faith He had, He
passed on to the disciples so they could live like He lived. This is the prototype Christian life. It’s
the Lord Jesus Christ showing us how to live. No one in the Old Testament had a life like this.
You have the most unique life in the history of the world. You have the Christian life pioneered
by our Lord Jesus Christ while He was a man, lived by our Lord Jesus Christ as a man. Never
once did He depend on His deity to spare Him. Never once did He depend on His deity to sustain
Him. He always had peace and He leaves this with us. We can have this same peace. He spoke
these words to His disciples in order to prepare them for what was coming once He was
crucified, resurrected and ascended back to heaven. As we approach the year 2025 we need to
remember these things because there's no doubt national and international conflict are coming.
You can bank on this. Even today there is terror across America as hundreds of drones are seen
flying over homes, airports, as well as military institutions and no apparent explanation from our
government concerning what they are, where they came from or who they belong to. The shift in
political leadership is going to cause great concern for thousands of individuals who despise the
new president and his agenda. There will be no peace for any Christian who does not understand
that Jesus Christ controls history. You must understand this if you want to have peace because the
greatest comfort and peace of a child of God is to know and understand God's unique plan for his
life; to know and understand God's purpose for his life; the purpose for his existence and to know
that he has not been left alone to fight it out in the devil’s world. Do you have peace today? Let’s
start with this one. Are you certain that if your life ended today that you would go to heaven? Do
you know this for sure? Are you positive about this? You can know it. There’s no reason you
shouldn’t know it because the Bible is very clear about it. You can know it for sure according to
Scripture. People write to me and say, “You can’t know this for sure.” Yes you can. 1 John 5:13,
“These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that
[this is a
purpose clause]
you may know that you have eternal life,”
and that you may continue to believe,
trust, in the name of the Son of God. As a child of God, you're guaranteed His daily care and His
daily provisions. Not only are you given eternal life, not only can you let your mind be at rest
because if something were to happen, you will be in heaven. There is no doubt about this if you
put your faith in Jesus Christ. As a child of God you are also guaranteed daily provision and
daily care. In Matthew 6:25-27 Jesus said,
“For this reason I say to you, do not be worried about
your life, as to what you will eat or what you will drink; nor for your body, as to what you will
put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing? Look at the birds of the air,
that they do not sow, nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them.
Are you not worth much more than they? And who of you by being worried can add a single hour
to his life?”
So don't be worried. Worry is a lack of peace. If you're worried about making it in
the devil’s world, if you're worried about surviving, if you’re worried about, “How am I going to
get along? I'm not making enough money,” you don’t have God’s peace. Your Lord knows what's
you’re going through. He’s not going to strand you. He’s not going to throw you under the bus.
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He will make sure you have everything you need to live your life comfortably, I promise. It may
not be the way you want to live it. Maybe you want to be a millionaire. This might not be in the
plan for you, but He will not abandon you. You don't have to worry about your clothing. You
don’t have to worry about what you’re going to eat. You are much more important than a simple
bird and He loves you, so relax. Don’t be worried. You should have peace, confident in His daily
care and His daily provision for you. How do I know this? Because Psalm 55:22 tells me,
“Cast
your burden upon the Lord and He will sustain you; He will never allow the righteous to be
shaken.”
All you have to do is go to the Father. Hopefully you will do this. When you have a
situation in your life that you don't understand, when you have a situation in your life that is a
conflict, take it to the Father and He will deliver you through it. He doesn’t say He’ll make it go
away. He says He will sustain you through it and He will never allow the righteous, this is the
righteousness of Christ given to you, to be shaken. What does this mean, I don't have any
righteousness?
“There is none righteous, not even one”
(Romans 3:10).
“All our righteous deeds
are like a filthy garment”
(Isaiah 64:6). I don't care how good you are, it’s not going to get you to
heaven because 2 Corinthians 5:21 says,
“He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf,
so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.”
The righteousness spoken of in
Psalm 55:22 is the uniqueness of the Lord Jesus Christ, His righteousness given to you. He who
knew no sin was made sin for you. It was a trade out deal. He took your sin. He gives you His
righteousness. You cannot be shaken according to Psalm 55:22. What a wonderful subject to
consider as we enter into 2025. The word peace you’ve heard me talking about, I’ve quoted it a
bunch of times, is the Greek word
eirene.
It simply means harmony, security, and safety. Security
and safety. Our Lord told the disciples that it was possible to have a complete relaxed mental
attitude in spite of the difficulties they were going to face, difficulties like the threat of death,
animosity and hatred from the religious crowd. Yet there was still a peace they could have.
Again,
“Peace I leave with you; My peace I give to you.”
If you're not at peace today, something
is wrong. Either you don't understand the plan of God or you're not living the plan of God. Now
let me tell you something, this doesn't mean you won't have conflict. In Matthew 10:34-36 Jesus
says these words,
“Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring
peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her
mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be the
members of his household.”
When you put your faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, your whole family
can turn on you. If you get serious about growing spiritually and learning the Word of God, your
whole family may laugh at you, think you’re a nut, think you’ve gone over the hill and think
you’ve gone crazy. “Why are you doing all this Bible study? Why are you doing all this praying?
What’s wrong with you?” Your own family may fight you. Jesus Christ our Lord said this. When
you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, you fit into the plan of God. Your family might not consider
this. They may think you’ve gone crazy. I have a dear friend of mine who says her family is just
like this. She loves the Word of God. She studies the Word of God but her family doesn’t
understand it. This may happen to you. Our Lord made it clear in this particular passage, the son
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who follows Him will be hated by their own family members. Why? Because this is the cost of
true discipleship. Matthew 10:37,
“He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of
Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.”
The priority in your
life, the priority in my life is first of all to love God with all our heart, to love His Word, to love
His plan, to have peace and prosperity through His plan, to trust Him, to be comfortable with
what He has for us and put our faith in Him. If we put this down on paper, who do you love first?
Personal love for God is what motivates you to obey God.
“For this is the love of God, that
we
keep His commandments; and His commandments are not burdensome”
(1 John 5:3). Do you
love your father and your mother more than Him? Then you are not worthy of Him. Again, “
He
who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.”
He wants to be first in your life.
He wants to be priority number one in your life. This is the only way you're ever going to have
the peace that you're looking for. Personal love for our Lord Jesus Christ will come with a cost, I
promise you. You can ask the martyred disciples that when you meet them in heaven because all
but one of them were martyred for their personal love for the Lord Jesus Christ. Many of them
were married and many of them had children, yet they gave their lives to follow Christ. This may
happen to us someday. We don't really know what’s going to take place in the future. We have
great hope and great confidence that the leader of this country will keep us safe and allow us to
continue to worship in privacy but you never know. We don’t ever know. When you commit your
life to follow Christ there’s going to be conflict in the middle of the storm but we can have peace.
How? Because we know we are right in the center of God's will. The promise of peace from God
does not mean the absence of conflict. This is why you have a FLOT line in your soul, to stop the
outside sources of adversity from becoming the inside source of stress. Having stress like worry
and fear is not having peace. This is the absence of peace. In Colossians 3:15,
“Let the peace of
Christ rule in you hearts.”
What does this mean? The heart is your mind. You have two parts to
your brain. The Greeks called one of them the
nous
, the mind. They called the other part the
heart, the
kardia
. This isn’t the organ that pumps blood. It’s talking about the heart of your soul
and you have to let the Word of God rule in your heart, in the memory center, in your frame of
reference, in your vocabulary. This is where the peace comes from. When you know the Word of
God, when you know it, trust it and love Him so much that you can be comfortable with this,
then you can have peace. It comes when you let Christ rule in your heart. After my salvation I
read a book by evangelist Billy Graham entitled “Peace With God.” Allow me to quote Billy
Graham here just for a minute as I read to you. “As we look around we find there is little
personal, domestic, social, economic or political peace anywhere. Why? Because we all have the
seeds of suspicion, of violence, and hatred and destruction within us.” He’s talking about the sin
nature. The antidote to the these sorts of attitudes of suspicion and hatred is found in Isaiah 26:3.
Here is the antidote to hatred. Here is the antidote to suspicion. Here is the antidote to violence.
“The steadfast of mind You will keep in perfect peace because he trusts in You.”
This is the key
to peace. The word trust is the key. For us, the peace we have is built on the foundation of trust.
You have to remember this. If you don't trust God, you are never going to have peace. So do you
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trust God this morning? Today? Not just for your salvation, but do you trust Him with your life,
with your very breath, with your very existence? Are you willing to put your trust in His
leadership? Then you'll find it in the Word of God. Many people go through life never
understanding what the will of God is. What is the geographical will of God? Where does God
want them to be? What does God what them to think? What does God want them to do? This is
what you have to learn because this is where the peace comes from. The peace we have is built
on the foundation of trust.
“Trust in the Lord with all your heart
[100%]
and do not lean on your
own understanding”
(Proverbs 3:5). This is doubt. If there's any doubt in your life, if there's any
confusion in your life, there’s no trust. Trust is the foundation for peace. In Isaiah 41:10,
“Do not
fear, for I am with you; do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God. I will strengthen
you, surely I will help you, surely I will uphold you with My righteous right hand.”
So can you
trust Him? Yes you can. Can you depend on Him? Yes you can. It’s just a matter of whether or
not you're willing to do it. In order to have peace, you must have faith. In other words, do you
trust God to do what's best in your particular circumstances or do you panic at the first sign of
adversity? Do you start asking for prayers to induce God to intervene and change your
circumstances? The first time something goes wrong, do you get on the internet and start saying,
“Pray for me brother?” What do you want me to pray for? “Make this go away so I don’t have to
face it.” This is exactly what Paul did in 2 Corinthians 12. He had a thorn in the flesh and he
prayed three times earnestly for it to go away and God kept saying, “No. No. No.” Why?
Because under adverse circumstances your faith grows and increases. Sometimes you want God
to take away the very things that are going to bless you, the very things that are going to teach
you, the very things that are going to help you to grow because you don't like your
circumstances. At the first sign of adversity, you start hollering for help. “Make it go away. All
you prayer warriors, pray for me. Pray that it will go away.” It’s pitiful. The faith-rest drill is part
of the FLOT line of your soul. Do you understand how it works? If you don’t understand the
faith-rest drill, call me or write to me and we’ll send you the book “
Christian Problem Solving.”
It will explain the faith-rest drill in detail, I promise you. In the Old Testament, faith-rest was
normal for believers who God used to change history, to pave the way for the Lord Jesus Christ.
They didn't have the spiritual life you have. They didn't have the canon of Scripture. They didn't
have the filling of the Holy Spirit. They only had faith and this is what God tested them for, to
see what kind of faith they had. Moses at the Red Sea in Exodus 14 is a good illustration.
Pharaoh's army in hot in pursuit was going to kill them, angry because they left Egypt. Listen to
what Moses told the frightened Jews as they tried to escape the Egyptian captivity. In Exodus
14:13,
“But Moses said to the people, ‘Do not fear!’”
What does this mean? There was no peace.
There was no trust. There was no faith. They were afraid.
“Do not fear! Stand by
[quit being
nervous, quit jumping around, just relax]
and see the salvation of the Lord which He will
accomplish for you today; for the Egyptians whom you have seen today, you will never see them
again forever.”
Pharoh thought he had them cornered. He had the Red Sea behind them and he
had his army coming after them. He thought for sure, “We’ve got them now.” The only people
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who got it were Pharaoh and his army. God opened the Red Sea and they went across in perfect
peace. When Moses said, “Stand by [hold your peace],
”
it meant relax. Trust God. Use faith. The
Lord will handle this for you and the same thing is true for you as well. In the case of certain
death with the Red Sea in front of them and Pharaoh's army behind them, Moses said, “Hold
your peace. Don't panic.” This is just another opportunity for God to demonstrate His
omnipotence and rid the world of an evil ruler. I encourage you today to hold your peace. Don't
panic regardless of the circumstances. Trust in Him. Lean not on your own understanding. It's
very simple, do you love God? I hear people tell me this all time, “I love God.” Really? Do you
trust God? “Yeah, I trust God.” Really? Then relax, enjoy the ride. Remember what the Lord says
in Psalm 84:11,
“For the Lord God is a sun and shield; the Lord gives grace and glory; no good
thing does He withhold from those who walk uprightly.”
The only conditions God asks of you is
to love Him, obey Him and follow His leadership. Do you love God? Do you obey God? Do you
grow daily? Do you stay filled with the Holy Spirit? Do you replicate the life of Christ to those
that you meet? Or are you so self-centered that you think all you need to do is show up at
church? Are you the nod to God crowd? “Hello God. Goodbye God. See you next Sunday God.
Bless me God. Have a good day God.” You’re never going to have peace with an attitude like
this. You’re just using church to go through some ritual that has no reality to it. The reality of the
Christian life is a wonderful way to live with total peace, total confidence, total trust and total
love in the heavenly Father who loves you much more than you love Him. Remember what Jesus
said,
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His uniquely born Son”
(John 3:16). He loved
you before you were even formed. In eternity past He knew who you were and who you would
be and He still loves us, in spite of what you have done and what I've done. We don't deserve His
love but He loved us. If we love Him we can experience this wonderful life I'm talking about,
this wonderful peace, confidence and assurance. It comes from the act of faith, trusting God,
putting your trust in Him and living by the faith-rest drill. Do you know the faith-rest drill?
Again, let me remind you of our book
Christian Problem Solving
. I’d love to send it to you. It’s
free, we don’t sell anything. We don't hustle people for money, you know that. Simply the Word
of God is what this show is about. We teach the Word of God clearly for you. I'm not a pastor but
I want to get you to a good pastor where you can learn God's Word on a daily basis. If you don’t
have peace, you should have. You should have a lifestyle of peace, trust and faith because this is
the lifestyle God set out for you. This is how you can enjoy your life to the fullest. Get the
monkey off your back and put the monkey on God’s back. Let Him worry about the details and
circumstances while you cruise through holding your peace. Don't let it go. Put your faith in
Him, okay? I hope you're listening. I hope you’ve learned. I hope you will apply this
information. If there is anything else that we can help you with, don't hesitate to contact us. Until
next week this is your host Rick Hughes saying thank you for listening to The FLOT Line
