Mike Gallagher and Mark Davis tackle Krista Pike’s failed execution, a major Preborn milestone, the Flydubai attack and the latest political chatter. Listen now.
On this edition of M&M Extra, Mike Gallagher and Mark Davis begin with the extraordinary aftermath of Tennessee’s failed attempt to execute death-row inmate Krista Pike.
The two discuss the mechanics of lethal injection, what happens legally after an execution attempt fails, and whether Tennessee’s procedures and personnel are up to the task.
Mark also recalls witnessing an execution in Florida decades ago, describing how that experience shaped his own support for capital punishment. The conversation expands into
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Well, how do we feel with this botched execution of like a pillow, like a nurse sneaking into the hospital room and putting a pillow over her head? I mean, is that more humane than inject? What do they do with her now? Now what do they do?
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For those that don’t know, Krista Gale Pike was the poster woman for the death penalty, a brutal murderess.
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Demon. Horrible. In fact, quote, I cut that B word nine times. I cut that B word’s throat nine times and the B word didn’t die. That’s this nice lady that’s on death row right now. They can’t figure out how to kill. I mean, the Supreme Court had to go green light the execution because an appeals court put it on hold, which, by the way, that’s cruel. She’s an hour away. You talk about cruel and unusual punishment. She’s about to die. Then they say, oh, no, there’s a stay. Oh, let’s throw it to the Supreme Court. Oh, no, then the Supreme Court says, yeah, go ahead. Of course we’re going to do it. And, of course, it was the typical 6-3… verdict from the SCOTUS. It’s always the same three libs holding out. They’re always on the wrong side of every issue. Anyway, they can’t. And this is not the first time this has happened in Tennessee.
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Nope. Or in America. We have a lethal injection problem. I think there’s a supply chain problem with the quality of the stuff that you Because they could not kill her. And the question, and this is, I don’t mean funny like in a real comical way, but it is almost satire. What did they do with her when they failed to kill her? They took her to the hospital. She’s getting treated. The hospital? Yes. To what? To try to make her better? Yes, to get better so we can ostensibly try to execute her again.
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Kill her again. Yep. Well, yeah, you know what, though? I’m sorry. I’m enough of a conspiracy theorist. I don’t think I’m a conspiracy theorist, but maybe I am. This stinks like yesterday’s herring. It’s like somebody said, well, you know what? If we don’t put it in the vein the right way, maybe she’ll live and they’ll get rid of this barbaric death penalty. I do not dismiss it.
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that at all from people from people tainting the supply of lethal injection chemicals to any one of a number of things and not to be comical again but of course you know what the last thing they do before you get the needle in Huntsville or in Tennessee or whatever is they swab your arm because you don’t want that thing to get infected
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Right. You don’t want a little infection there. I’m sorry. That is so right. Well, I also love the last meal thing. Now, she didn’t want a last meal. There’s all kinds of – look, I was up late in the night watching this crap unfold. And, of course, I always have to make it about me. I’m now convinced because of my new cardiovascular disease that I’m about to keel over any second now. And they can’t kill her. I didn’t hurt anybody. And they can’t kill her intentionally. And I’m about to go – I’m about to drop – I may drop during M&M Extra today – I’m right in the middle, and they can’t kill this woman who’s a brutal murderer? Oh, my gosh. What’s going on in the world today? Can I pause all this weird and great news? Incidentally, are you catching the vibe shift about polls, about the economy, even gas prices?
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I am, yes. And I am cautiously vigilant in looking at where this all might go.
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And that would be really good. Now they’re picking Kansas, Iowa, Alaska, Collins in Maine. Now they’re saying Michelle Tafoya is in play against Flanagan. I’m going to talk to her next week on the show. Oh, awesome. Michelle Tafoya. But let’s just pause for a moment and talk about the goodness of of the Mark Davis audience. And I mean the Mark Davis. Look, you’re like, I know you’re a rock star. I get it. I know. I mean, I’m just, I’m the guy that carries your bags around, you know? So we did something kind of neat in the past, over the years, when we have a partnership with somebody that’s doing good. Like, oh, let’s say pre-born. I An organization that is saving babies’ lives, you can provide an ultrasound to a young woman who’s considering an abortion. And when she sees that baby and hears that baby’s heartbeat, she’s two times more likely to save that baby and not abort it than not. And they’ve become the title sponsor of our new venture that just celebrated 100 episodes yesterday. Wow. M&M Extra. Mark Davis, Mike Gallagher, unfiltered, unscripted. Mark’s always going blue. I can’t believe your language. Stop it. Your potty mouth. I’m yammering about. I’m showing my EKG and my health results on the podcast. I mean, we get very personal. And we’re having a ball. And we have so much fun. We hope everybody checks out M&M Extra wherever you get your podcasts. With pre-born, you could do $28 a month to provide one ultrasound a month, but $15,000 buys a whole ultrasound machine to save babies for years. I thought, wouldn’t it be kind of neat if M&M Extra sponsored a machine? If we could provide a machine from the podcast. So I said, the fun you and I have had, we’ve had lunches in Dallas for years with big donors that are big-hearted people who want to hang out with you and me at a beautiful restaurant. We have this great spot picked out, private room. And I thought, all we need are five people to donate $5,000. Three, three, three. Five people to donate $3,000 apiece. They can bring a guest, of course. And we’ll have an ultrasound machine, courtesy of Eminem Extra, the podcast. Yep. Mark, we’ve got four out of five. We have one slot left.
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We’re this close. We’re this close. We just need one person.
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So, right now, if you call 800-655-MIKE, Tracy’s standing by, 800-655-6453, it’s a tax-deductible donation. There’s only one seat. Well, there’s two seats technically left. Because you get to bring somebody. Right, but there’s one slot left for… Four people, Corey, Greg, Buddy, John, have already donated $3,000 apiece. All we need is one more, and I think we’re going to get it, and we might get it today. So if you’re inclined to save lives, and if you’re pro-life, this is a great way to show it. $3,000 tax-deductible donation, courtesy of Eminem. We’ll have a… We’ll set up the date.
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We’ll get with everybody and see what date works best for everybody as we work through the fall. It’s not going to be next week or anything. We’ll get with everybody’s schedule and see what works well. Try to get it certainly done before the holidays at a wonderful, you know, close to DFW airport and just a nice, convenient, wonderful place. So if you’d like that last seat for you and your plus one as we celebrate the acquisition of an ultrasound machine for pre-born. But what we’re really going to do is sit around, we’re going to eat, we’re going to sling hot topics, we’re going to talk about stuff, lots of Q&A. It’s always just a joy to do this with listeners, and we’d love for you to be a part of it.
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We hope first one in gets it. So we’ve only got one slot left, 800-655-6453. Right now, Trace, let’s get that one person in and I have a good feeling. All right. Now let’s see how that happens in the next couple of minutes. Fingers crossed. The prayers are up that somebody’s heart is touched and wants to save those lives and have lunch with Mark and Mike in the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex. So go back. Honest to goodness. I’m not being rhetorical. What do they do with her now? He just can’t let it go. Well, they stabilized her. Well, no, you haven’t answered me.
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No, well, they stabilized her.
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And now what? And then we tee it up and give it another shot. Do it again? Yes. Isn’t there like a thing when you survive?
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No, that’s a complete urban myth. Of course not. Really? We tried. We can’t do it again. No, you guys.
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The audience, the text message audience is in a forgiving mood. Dallas just wrote they need to drive a silver stake through her heart. Okay, I’m sorry. Wow. Well, I mean, look, it’s hard to kill the devil. I mean, the devil, it’s hard to stamp out evil.
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And maybe we have a methodology issue because this did not happen with old Sparky in the state of Florida in an execution that I witnessed in July of 1984. I forgot about that. You witnessed an execution. Yeah. And it turned me into a staunch death penalty supporter. People said, if you ever see one, you’ll be shrieking and repelled by the whole thing. I’m 26 when I go into this thing, and I’ve got a kind of a young punk libertarian thing going. Does government really need to determine when people live or die? Blah, blah, blah, which is a good sentence. But the ultimate answer is yes, because the death penalty is proper. It’s symmetrical. It’s scriptural. It’s good. And when I saw the relief on the faces of the victims of this horrible man who had slaughtered people in Miami a couple of years earlier, I said, I just saw something that was good and just. And that was 2000 volts at 14 amps. And he was gone in like 90 seconds. Well, you know what also works? You know what also works? Firing squad. Firing squad doesn’t really miss. Is Gary Gilmore, Gary Gilmore, right? Utah, 1970-something. Yep. His famous quote, let’s do it. And how did they do that? They put like five guys and like only one or two of them have actual blood. They’re real concerned about someone. Now, this is interesting. How would you like to be the executioner on that staff? In the firing squad, some of the guns had blanks so that people on the firing squad could live the rest of their lives and say, maybe it wasn’t my bullet that killed him.
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That would not have bothered me, by the way. I would have wanted it to be my bullet that killed him.
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I don’t know what you do with the syringe there. I don’t think you have seven syringes and people going, oh, mine contains Kool-Aid. I do not know. But…
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I mean, it’s a wild thing. And you know what’s going to happen. This is just giving all kinds of fodder to the anti-death penalty crowd. Of course. They’re saying it’s cruel. It’s terrible. It’s unusual. It doesn’t work. And I’m not kidding you. When I’m talking about the pillow over the head, why not? I mean, just put her out.
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Because that probably is cruel and unusual. Well, you’re killing her. No, I know. Then why don’t we just hang her from a tree until she… We did hanging back in the day.
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I’m always fascinated that we’re worried about the method of killing somebody. I think that’s optics, and I know what you mean.
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It’s all optics. I don’t lie awake at night. In view of what these people did, I don’t lie awake at night worrying about coddling them to their death. However, as a society, we would probably like to be a little bit high-minded about this. We’re going to kill you. But with the electric chair, it’s apparently, from what I’m told, it’s like being hit by a train at a million miles an hour. You don’t feel anything. Wow, you are gone. Wow. Lethal injection is like put your dog to sleep, again, or so I’m told. Well, I did. Firing squad’s a little grisly, but, you know.
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A little blood spatter and all that, your head blown off. I mean, that’s a little rough. I mean, look, we’ve all had to, us dog lovers, we’ve all been there, done that. I’ll never get over, and I’ve done it four times in my life, which is the worst. Oh. It’s terrible. And you know what, though? It’s the most peaceful, gentle, wonderful thing for an ailing dog to have that injection and they just stop moving. And you know what? And I don’t think anybody’s German Shepherd ever sprang from the table and went, but it didn’t work.
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I mean, so if we can make this work, if we can bat a thousand with this at the veterinarian’s office, it would seem like we wouldn’t be dropping the ball on death row.
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Do you think the online rumors that the execution squad was made up of all females is true?
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That seems like a Lindsay Clancy urban myth. It’s all over the Internet.
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It’s on the Internet. I believe it. It’s on the Internet. Well, there you are. I saw it. If I saw it online, what I also saw was a bunch of heroes saving 175 lives on that fly Dubai plane. What a story. And did you see how they called it like a tussle? A skirmish or something. Skirmish. It was just kind of a disagreement.
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They were concerned about the altitude.
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Yeah, they were arguing about the temperature in the cockpit. Dinner choices. Yeah, they didn’t. Heaven forbid they say jihadist terrorists wanted to have another 9-11. No, let’s not say that. Let’s dance around that story. You don’t hate the news media enough. Enough, enough, enough. And Steve Hilton clobbered Becerra in the debate last night. We’ve got some highlights for that as well.
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California governor, can he win?
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No, maybe not, but probably not. But there’s a lot of places where Republicans can win, and I don’t think you’re optimistic enough. When I told you about the vibe change in America right now, I’m telling you, Mark, go with it.
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I’m totally right. Listen, I’m the guy who says that I consider it to be a thoroughly plausible notion that the disaster does not happen. Paxton is absolutely right. Absolutely going to be Tallarico. Don’t know about Michelle in Minnesota. I certainly don’t know about California. But all kinds of things are possible. And I think we are going to fend. I think we, as you so skillfully said, all we have to do is show up. If we care enough about this country, we can fend off the midterm disaster. I believe it is possible. I’m going to pray for that to happen.
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Amen. Love it. Love to see you at M&M Extra. We’ve got a big day today and a big special interview tomorrow about the Admiral who was scapegoated for Pearl Harbor. So don’t miss it wherever you get your podcast. M&M Extra.
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Only on Salem Now, featuring one of Charlie Kirk’s final interviews. The new documentary, Can You Hear Me Now? Investigates modern prophets and divine messages shaping our political and cultural destiny. I would have dreams and then they would come to pass. Some people absolutely have the gift of prophecy.
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If God exists, how would he inject his information into our world? More than likely, he would use humans.
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Jesus appeared in the dream.
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I heard a voice and it began to speak to me.
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It is the word of God that needs to be the bedrock of any functioning and flourishing civilization. Why would God have me be one of the last people to interview Charlie before he died? Satan would love Christians. So just be a spectator, not engage, not participate. Is there something he’s trying to say?
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