Mark plots a course for GOP success to the midterms with 63 days to go; local mayor in Mississippi pushes back against lowering flags for Dolly Parton; Lindsay Clancy jury deadlocked.
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Welcome to a meeting of the minds crafted from decades of talk show experience, an extension of the magic they’ve created together on radio in the phenomenon called M&M. Hot topics in the news and wisdom from life. It’s Mark Davis and Mike Gallagher. This is M&M Extra.
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For the first day of September, welcome, everybody. It is Tuesday, September 1. Mark Davis here, half of the M’s, half the hosts, twice the enthusiasm. We’ll see how that works out. Well, I’ll tell you what’s going to work out today and tomorrow. We’ve got some things planned for tomorrow. I’m going to do a deep dive tomorrow into something happening right in front of my face and many of you, and that is the Texas Senate race. It should be pretty cut and dried as far as Ken Paxton and James Tallarico. There are complicating factors that we just shouldn’t have here in Texas and around the country. It’s called whiny obstructionists who just can’t handle the fact that Texas voters demanded change. But sit tight. We’ll have that for you in detail on tomorrow’s M. It’ll return to actual M&M as both of the M’s are back with you for Thursday and Friday. I’m Mark Davis. Happy morning, host here at 660 AM. The answer in Dallas, Fort Worth. The other M is the currently away. Mike Gallagher, host of National Renown and Global Fame. And we’ll be back together for Thursday and Friday and parts of next week. And I’m going the week of September 21st. We’ll have you covered in some manner of speaking, no matter what. And so for today’s exercise, let me just remind you that we are brought to you every day. by pre-born. These are fantastic people who help you stand for life by helping them provide ultrasounds for girls and women. You will double the likelihood that a woman will choose life. If you just go to 833-850-BABY, 833-850-BABY, or go to preborn.com slash MMExtra and more later on what you can do for these fantastic people. So to begin, what can we do to forestall a certain disaster nine weeks from today? Surely you’ve heard the narrative that the midterms are just it’s just going to be, as they as they say in podcast land, an ass kicking for the ages. And you know what? It might be. Or it might not. I think that there are so many. variables. There are so many X factors, so many things that could go a certain way or a certain other way. Let me toss those out here on the table a little bit because anytime there’s something in life, in politics, in a relationship, in a business deal where there’s a lot of uncertainty, find a list of the things that you do have some control over. Find a list of the things that That are factually correct, that are that are certain when dealing with there’s going to be a portion of life, a certain slice of the pie that’s always going to involve uncertainty. I mean, please, we know that in our daily lives. We know it in politics. We know it in every every realm. But in those times of uncertainty. hold fast to those things that are a constant, those things that you can count on. So what might those be? First, the tough part. I said on the radio this morning, I formed a sentence. You ever form a sentence in your head? You think about saying that, then you go. The sentence that formed in my head was this war is still going to be going on on November 3rd. I don’t know that. So I didn’t say it and I’m not going to say it now. I will say that it appears pretty unlikely that we’re going to have a tidy, well, nothing was going to be tidy, that we will have a satisfying, a definitive, encouraging end or exit ramp to the war in time for gas prices to really improve by November 3rd and for everybody to feel great about the way the war went. That I mean, everybody, not just me. I’m a believer. I support Trump. I support the aims of the war. I’m I’m all in this. Yeah, absolutely. It gives me a seemingly endless well of patience from which to to draw. But you also have to look objectively. You got to look at independent voters. Got to take a look at how people are going to be feeling about everything. And I had drawn my own little personal line in the Strait of Hormuz was that we probably needed to have this wrapped up during the month of September. So it’s September 1st. We got 29 more days to get this done. Who’s with me? And I know I’m being inappropriately flippant about something that’s very serious, but it’s just my way of illustrating that this is going to be a huge month. And let’s check back on September 30th. or every day since, because we’ll be here, and just sort of see how we think it’s going. See how we think it’s going. And I don’t think we need to have a signing ceremony on the USS Missouri where all the terrorists go, oh, how wrong we have been. Just something, man. Throw us a bone, man. If there’s just something that looks like a cause for optimism, because the thing is, That with a media culture that hates the war and Democrats rooting for us to lose it, it’s easy to get lost in the fog. That there are two there are two major aims, really major aims of the war effort for Iran not to become a nuclear power threat to its neighbors or to us. That’s pretty well done, at least temporarily. And for Iran to no longer be able to be a reliable funnel of terrorist funding to Hamas and Hezbollah. And that’s pretty well been done, too. But it’s temporary. It’s for now. They could rear their heads and become a danger again, probably in pretty short order. If we don’t, here comes the term of the year. Finish the job, whatever that looks like. So the month of September is going to be a big chronicling of how the war effort looks like it’s going. And that, of course, is tied directly to the to the economy and to gas prices and to the price of everything. Affordability has, you might have noticed, reared its head. President Trump distances from the concept of affordability as a cudgel to beat his brains in with. He knows that things are expensive and he’s trying to do things about it with less regulation, lower taxes, less government in our lives, the kind of conservative things that tend to work well for an economy. They sure did during Reagan. But obviously, it’s going to be a possible headwind going into November 3rd if things remain pretty costly. And what his point has been, and it’s been my point, too, is we suddenly discovered affordability during Trump when things were pretty tough during Biden as well. We do remember Biden, don’t we? And the media wasn’t making a big stink about it. then. So those are the challenges. But when voters go in, that’s silly me. I almost said when they walk into the polls on November 3rd, does anybody even do that anymore? With all the mail-in voting and early voting and all of this nonsense. In my day, we had one election day and we went to a place to vote and we liked it. Doggone it, we liked it. Yeah, I did. And now there are all kinds of different ways to vote. All we all we wanted was for you to be able to prove who you were and prove you’re an American citizen and asking too much. Apparently it is. By the way, the failure to pass the Save America Act is probably a Republican conservative voter enthusiasm suppressant. So that’s not good either. But OK, OK, OK. Enough Debbie Downer. What is good?
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Hi, borders, borders. Remember that problem? It’s like we are a funny people. We solve a problem and we don’t have enough appreciation that we solved it. If you have cancer, boy, do I really want to do this? If I do, I’m plowing forward. If you have cancer and your cancer is cured, aren’t you appreciative of it? For every day of the rest of your life, six months later, you go, I think I had cancer. I’m not sure. I don’t really know. Whatever. No, you’re not flippant about that. So the border, this is very poetic or very clumsy. I don’t know which you tell me. The border was a cancer on the American economy. And not just Biden, but Obama before him. Heck, we had Republican presidents who let too many illegals in. And And it’s been solved. Now, we still have problems with people overstaying their visas, with H-1Bs. It’s not like the whole immigration landscape has been fixed. But the problem of countless people pouring across the border, fixed. Crime is just much better. We’ve achieved environmental sanity. We’ve achieved gender sanity. Now, it’s not like you snap a finger and it’s done, but these battles are being won, and that ought to be worth something, I would think. So many questions. So many questions. How will the war be going? How much will gas be? How much credit will Republicans get for solving those things that I just described? We deserve to get plenty. Will we? I don’t know. We’ll find out. And that’s what makes. The midterm’s almost impossible to predict. I know the chances are that it’s not going to be a great Republican day. That tends to be the way things go. Right after a party wins the presidency, the next midterms, they get kicked in the butt. Absolutely could happen, but it doesn’t have to. I don’t think that it has to. We’ll see what kind of drama unfolds. Let me tell you the kind of drama that unfolds in a fantastic book. It’s called Carbon Zero by our friend Craig Stanfill. This is a fantastic book. It’s about AI. So you got that. And it’s kind of an apocalyptic. Horrible things happen over the entire planet. That’s always kind of a fun plot line for me. So if you take that and high tech and out of control AI and put it in book form, bam, there you are. That’s exactly what Craig has done. Preorder it at Amazon. What happens is some people with some really good intentions have an idea that sounds like a good idea, and it really turns out to not be a good idea at all. No spoilers. I’ll let you read it as I’m doing and fill in your own blanks. Go to pre-order now for a limited time. The Kindle edition is just $2.99 for our viewers here on M&M Extra. Go to Amazon, look for Carbon Zero. There’s the picture of it right there on your screen. And the author again is Craig Stanfill, S-T-A-N-F-I-L-L, Carbon Zero. Get the discounted rate during pre-order time right now. That’s the good folks helping you out there in the… in the book world with plots that you can appreciate. I love authors that do things that are as fresh as today’s headlines. And I also wish I could write a headline every day about how much better I feel, how much better I am in that right shoulder of mine, thanks to Relief Factor. Mike’s been able to tell you a story for a good long while about backs and hips and sacroiliacs and the SI issues. With me, it’s just kind of a simple rotator cuff, but I’m out throwing the ball in the back for… The ever-changing names of my dogs. I can’t wait for Mike to come back and screw up the names of my dogs again. It’s Jake and Bruno. Then it became Jake and Hugo. Then Jack and Diane. I don’t know. When he comes back on Thursday, it might be Sacco and Vanzetti. I have no idea. But I do know this, that even some of the early morning aches and pains that when you’re 68 and you get up and you go, oh, Mike. I need a couple of minutes. Nope, I get up and I am raring to go. Some of these just little aches and pains or medium-sized aches and pains, in the case of my shoulder, they are gone. And this is the kind of story that you can have, too, with a three-week Relief Factor pack for just $17.76, the starter pack, $17.76. Go to relieffactor.com. Or call 1-800-4-RELIEF, 1-800-4-RELIEF. You’ll connect with the friendly local team and they’ll do everything they can to help. And we hope you’ll soon share your story with us as well. So let me let me share a story about this. This is interesting. I pitched this or framed it on the radio show this morning. There’s a bit of news about the most loved woman in recent history and the most hated woman of the moment. We’ll get to Lindsay Clancy in a minute because her jury, as tape rolls on this right now, at roughly midday, that jury is deadlocked. And I don’t think they’re going to come back with anything by this afternoon. So we’ll see. We’ll get to her in a minute. Let’s go to maybe not just one of the most loved women, but one of the most loved people like in the recent history of ever. And that’s Dolly Parton. She wound up back in the news. And of course, she was nothing but the news for the news was nothing but her for a good long while in a deserved deserved period of time of love and reverence and observance of her magnificent life. Then there was a mayor in Olive Branch, Mississippi. I was in Memphis for a few years, 1985 to 90. It’s right there at the southwest corner of the state. So you got Arkansas over to one side and Mississippi down south and Senatobia, Holly Springs, Olive Branch. These wonderful little Mississippi communities that were kind of Memphis suburbs. Olive Branch, a cool little town. And they’ve got a mayor and he did not want to put the flags at half staff for Dolly. Let’s go to the phones.
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What? What? How dare he? You know, get a rope. So I offered that on the show this morning and I offered it in the following way and I offer it for you now. His point was. let’s not go jacking with putting the flag at half staff for all kinds of people who are not former presidents and not heads of state and not war heroes. I think he’s just worried that at some point we’re, you know, we’re, we’re, you know, dropping it for Bruno Mars. Should he meet an untimely end? Actually, I like Bruno. Let’s let here, let’s use De Niro. If we had a, if we had a Democrat president, Robert De Niro died. Yeah. And they talked about putting those flags at half staff for Robert De Niro. I am on the streets with a flaming pitchfork in protest. So the mayor has a point that we really want to keep the bar stratospherically high. for where we put the flag to half-staff. There have been a lot of state governors can do it. Whitney Houston was a daughter of New Jersey. Clarence Clemens, Springsteen, saxophone guy. They brought the flags down in New Jersey. Ron DeSantis did it for Jimmy Buffett. You know, all good, all good, all good. These are governors doing things in certain states. When the national flag goes down, I mean, you’re going to get it for Dr. King. You’re going to get it for Rosa Parks. You’re going to get it for Billy Graham. You’re going to get it. But entertainment figures, entertainment figures. How many other people from the world of entertainment have had a president drop the flag to half staff? The answer appears to be one. Want to take a guess? The president who did it was George W. Bush. The year was 2003. The entertainer was Bob Hope. So that’s some pretty rarefied air. That’s a pretty special category there. Bob Hope, Dolly Parton. That work for everybody? It kind of does for me. I can’t necessarily think of anybody else who I’d shoehorn onto that half of Mount Rushmore. I also don’t think that putting Dolly on the list of folks who deserve this means that, you know, that… Kid Rock and Ricky Gervais are right behind. Why did he come up with them? So it’s I think the mayor has a point. But I think Dolly was deserving. OK, I think the mayor has a point, but I think that Dolly was deserving. I think. People have a point about postpartum and looking at the Lindsay Clancy story. But I think I know why the jury’s deadlocked. I’ll talk about that with you in just a minute. As I tell you that you’ve got a point, speaking of the popular culture, if you complain that it’s just too poisonous sometimes, and that’s why there’s Eccle. Eccle is a streaming service, E-K-K-L, Eccle.com. Stars of Duck Dynasty, Willie and Corey Robertson, their whole clan have put this together or collaborated with those who are putting this together. 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Is there such a thing as postpartum psychosis? Yes, no. Yes, there is. Let’s head down there. Can it get so bad that somebody can be so mentally bent that maybe they are so insane that they commit a crime that they are not to be held responsible for? OK, let’s go with yes, because the human mind is a curious thing. So, yes, let’s say I said just said, is it possible? So that’s a yes. Is Lindsay Clancy a fitting example of this? And that’s where we run aground. I don’t know. The defense says yes. That’s why she brutally, methodically killed her three beautiful babies. The prosecution says, no, she’s totally making that up. I can’t read minds, and I wasn’t there, and I don’t know. But what I do have is the evidence, and what I do have are the facts presented in the courtroom, and it just looks a little too premeditated, doesn’t it? It just looks a little too premeditated. It looks a little too methodical, because the elements of… So the glibly described insanity defense are you don’t know the difference between right and wrong and you literally don’t know what you’re doing. I mean, you are so three sheets to the wind mentally that you don’t literally know what you are doing and you have no active operational concept of right and wrong. Did this apply to her? Man, I just don’t think it did. I just don’t. Now, I’m not on the jury, but the people on the jury may be having the exact same quandary that I’ve just described because earlier in the morning and the judge said, get back in there. And that’s got to be the worst. You got 12 people. You have 12 people and they all they have to be unanimous. You can. Hey, it’s nine three. Is that good enough? No. And I have 12 people unanimously agree that the state. Absolutely proved beyond the shadow of a beyond reasonable doubt. Excuse me, not the shadow beyond a reasonable doubt that she’s guilty of this crime. Anything less than that. And they have to acquit a little bit of a doubt. I don’t know. Maybe she was suicidal. I don’t know. But she you have you have to acquit or they do have a number of avenues available for lesser offenses to convict her of second degree or even manslaughter. So for them to be deadlocked, it doesn’t just mean they can’t figure out whether she deserves the full book thrown at her. It means that they can’t even figure out if they can’t even agree on manslaughter, can’t agree on second degree, can’t agree on anything. So are we going to go back to square one? They’re not going to let her out. That would involve a complete new trial and another entire jury. So. What to conclude? Where does the flow chart? Well, the flow chart obviously leads nowhere because we ran up against that brick wall of do we know that these criteria of postpartum psychosis as a get out of jail free card that they apply to Lindsay Clancy? We don’t. I don’t think you can. No, I don’t think you can. So as we conclude, maybe this is my way of landing at the following destination. I don’t think she’s going to be convicted of first-degree murder. I think if that were the case, that would have happened in about an hour. I don’t know that she’s going to be convicted of second-degree. Maybe, just maybe, there’s a sufficient concept of a mitigating circumstance rattling around in the head of this jury that maybe she heard the voices, maybe the suicide attempt was real, maybe she didn’t know what she was doing. Because I tell you, I would have voted to convict with my at a distance grasp of what the facts of the case involved. But guess what? There aren’t 12 of me in there apparently are there. Nope. So I think either a manslaughter conviction that might take even a little longer or an acquittal. One of those lies ahead. Let me tell you what lies ahead tomorrow on M&M Extra. It’ll be another episode of M. That’ll be me. And if you’re in Texas wondering what’s going on, outside of Texas wondering what’s going on, I’m going to tell you what’s going on. Not just in the notion of Paxton versus Tallarico, but what is in the heads of so-called Republicans and so-called conservatives just whining and moaning and fussing about – they’re not whining about Paxton. They’re whining about the fact that Cornyn lost and they just – can’t handle it. My suggestion that they get over themselves, pull their heads out and grow up. That’s tomorrow on M&M Extra. In the meantime, thank you, Eric. Thank you, Yasmin. Thank you, Tracy. Thank you, Mike, wherever you are for letting me handle this solo. I’ll let you do the same when I’m away. And have a great rest of your day. And thanks for listening on Apple and Spotify and doing the YouTube download of the live stream every day. We do it every day at 11 o’clock Central and noon Eastern. That’s M&M Extra for this Monday. Happy September, everybody. I’m Mark Davis, and we will see you next time.
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