Leighton Gray, a senior fellow at the Frontier Center for Public Policy and host of the Gray Matter Podcast, offers a critical perspective on Trudeau’s tenure, questioning the rapid political changes occurring in Canada. He brings to light concerns over a systemic lack of checks and balances, which has allowed Trudeau to navigate his policies with little resistance. These actions, Gray argues, parallel efforts in the United States, albeit with fewer obstacles due to Canada’s political structure.
The dialogue takes a turn as Gray introduces the broader implications of the MAGA movement beyond American borders. As the discussion unfolds, it is evident that the sentiment behind ‘Make America Great Again’ is not isolated to the United States. Gray points out an increasing global pushback against globalism, attributing this shift partly to the Chinese challenge to U.S. hegemony. This has spurred a populist response across various nations, manifesting in movements that prioritize national sovereignty over international integration.
John Rush echoes these sentiments, acknowledging that the political climate is indeed changing, with populism gaining traction. Particularly, he notes the discontentment amongst Canadian citizens who view Trudeau’s administration as moving away from traditional Canadian values. Rush draws parallels to the United States, highlighting how similar sentiments have catalyzed significant political changes, most notably the rise of Donald Trump as a pivotal figure against globalism.
The episode later shifts focus to discuss the opposition’s efforts in Canada. Pierre Polivier, likened more to Ron DeSantis than Trump, is noted for aligning his policies closer to those popularized in the U.S. by Trump. Gray optimistically envisions a political scenario akin to the camaraderie shared by Ronald Reagan and Brian Mulroney in the 1980s, hoping for stronger U.S.-Canada relations under a future administration change.
Amid these global discussions, the episode takes a local turn as Rush responds to recent political developments in Colorado. With election strategies around appointments and the implications of these for state politics, he provides a critical analysis of political maneuvers that affect governance at the state level.
Tying these threads together, the episode of Rush to Reason serves as a rich tapestry depicting the dynamic flux of political ideologies and the resultant shifts they cause. It challenges listeners to consider the consequences of these movements and the broader narrative of anti-globalism as it shapes the future of international relations.
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All right, we are back. Hour number three, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Leighton Gray joining us now. Welcome back, Leighton. How are you?
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm well, thanks. It's great to be on the show again.
SPEAKER 14 :
I appreciate it. A host of the Gray Matter podcast. You're also a senior fellow for the Frontier Center for Public Policy. Talk to us about Trudeau. And he's bringing back a cabinet committee meeting addressing the relations between the U.S. now that Trump won.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, so for the benefit of your listeners, essentially the Trudeau government is a Chinese client state. They've been up to, since coming to power in 2015, they've been up to all the same stuff that the Democrats have been in the United States, only it's progressed very, very quickly because there's not as much opposition to it that's happened in the U.S.
SPEAKER 14 :
You don't have the same checks and balances, right?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, unfortunately right now we've got a coalition government that gets to do pretty much whatever it wants. However, the good news is he's the least popular prime minister in the history of our country. Even his own party wants him gone. And they're very, very worried about Donald Trump. You might recall back in February of 2022 when the truckers convoy got broken up in a very... uh totalitarian authoritarian way donald trump was at cpac and he said you know he when he becomes president again uh he's going to free canada from this uh authoritarian totalitarian dictator uh they never got along very great previously uh i don't think trump has a lot of respect for justin trudeau no i agree with you it's interesting um Earlier in the year when it was clear that Donald Trump was going to be the Republican nominee, Trudeau actually sequestered his cabinet for three days, worried about whether or not he would win. And recently he did likewise once more. So I think that... I think that the winds have changed. You know, there's an old joke, William Williams used to joke that Canada was a loft apartment over a great party. But, you know, there's a lot of lawmakers in the U.S. who are looking at Canada and saying, does Canada pose a geopolitical threat to the safety and security of of the United States because of its deep infiltration by China.
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I'm going to stop you for a minute there, Leighton, because as an American, I've had even kids, family living in Canada at one time, had a son-in-law in Canada, so know a little bit about what goes on up there. Not near as much, of course, as you do, but what I would say as an American, several years ago, I would have said, what's the risk of Canada doing anything. I mean, that's about as friendly of a country as you could ever imagine, and I can't think of anything ever happening in that way. Today, though, Leighton, I will agree with those that would say, yeah, given what you're talking about, and I've watched some of this myself from down here, what you've said in regards to Trudeau and his administration, I guess you could say, yeah, I think it's a threat.
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I do, too, I think maybe for the first time since 1812 when they burned down the White House or tried to. But, you know, I don't think that the Trump administration is going to tolerate this. I think that because the American election, and you may disagree with this, but as someone who's outside of the United States, it's very clear that the rest of the world is MAGA as a global movement. Not a globalist movement, but a global movement. I can't argue that.
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I agree with that. I think it's going to have far-reaching... Really quick, to back what you just said up, and you maybe saw this, I watched some clips prior to the election I shared with my audience where I was watching video clips of people in Japan, not Americans in Japan, but Japanese carrying American flags, marching down the street with MAGA hats on at the same time, thinking, wait a minute, this isn't just in America... This is happening everywhere.
SPEAKER 04 :
It is. It's a response to globalism. Right. The real enemy behind globalism, as everybody should realize, are the Chinese. They're challenging U.S. hegemony globally. And I don't think the new Trump administration is going to have any of it. And so I would I expect and many Canadians hoped. that the Trump administration is going to take a much more sincere interest and scrutiny over the domestic politics of Canada. Because everything that Justin Trudeau and his government are supporting is everything Donald Trump has already said he's against.
SPEAKER 14 :
I can't disagree with anything you just said. And by the way, it's sad that it's come to that point because Canada doesn't need to be that way, as you know. I mean, it has been in the past a great country, a great ally of ours. We have had great relations back and forth over the many, many centuries, literally, that we've been doing that late. And the reality is it doesn't need to be disrupted. Unfortunately, much like where we were headed as a country, and as you just said a moment ago, we just happened to be lucky enough to have a few more checks and balances in and have the ability to disrupt some of what the Chinese government would like to do to the U.S., unfortunately, you guys are all in.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's unfortunately at the government level, not at the populist level. That's right.
SPEAKER 14 :
Thank you. Thank you for the clarification. Correct.
SPEAKER 04 :
Canada is behind the United States in terms of an organized populist movement, which is what MAGA is. I was at a Trump rally in Henderson, Nevada recently, And I witnessed it firsthand. And unless you've seen it, you don't know how real it is. And it's much deeper than politics. Canada's not there yet, but I believe that that tide is rising, and I believe that that tide is going to be driven by MAGA.
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I can't argue that. I think, number one, people are just in. And by the way, Leighton, it just happens to have the label of MAGA. But I think what it really is, is your point a moment ago. It's anti-globalism. It's, hey, we want to have things the way they used to be. And we're not in for having one superpower, albeit China ruling the world. None of us want that. We want to go back to some of the autonomy we once had. We can get along as different countries. We can benefit one another accordingly. and we want to go back to what that once was. So call it MAGA, call it anti-globalism, call it whatever you want, but that's what it is.
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Yeah, and I would say it's not even going back. I think from listening to what Mr. Trump is saying and seeing some of these appointments he's made, he's going forward. I think he's going on the attack against globalism.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, I can't argue that. No, no, no. What I meant by going back is there was a time where globalism wasn't on the forefront light, and again— It's been a while. I mean, that's been going on. I'm 60 years of age, and globalism has been around for a very long time, started here in probably the early 60s, but it really has gotten legs in the past 20 years.
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I agree. The left has been on the rise, and, of course, there's a lot of reasons for it. It's our universities. It's the media. It's expanding bureaucracy everywhere, expanding size of government. But it sounds like in the United States there's a plan to deal with all of that And I believe that's going to have far-reaching implications for Canada and also for the rest of what we used to call the free world.
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And what I really should have said a moment ago, because I've said this many times on the program, and I don't know why it didn't come to my mind a moment ago. Really, what this is all about, Leighton, is it's anti-Marxism. That's the movement going on. Call it MAGA, whatever you want to label it. But really, at the end of the day, it's anti-Marxism. And because it's not just China, by the way, that believes in that. It's Russia. It's North Korea. There's many countries out there that want democracy. to be that and what's interesting is once they start to get hold then they start fighting amongst each other because somebody can only be at the top it can't be everybody and they're not going to allow that so what they don't even understand amongst themselves is they'll be fighting with each other at some point even though they claim to be allies right now Russia Iran but at the end of the day Leighton this is us against Marxism oh and this is very true and you know Dennis Prager who by the way is in the hospital I saw that yeah prayers go out to him I did see that today
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He likes to say that America is the last best hope for humanity. And he's right. And fortunately, right now, the man of the moment is the right person at the right time. And it's not just him, it's the whole coalition.
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That's right.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I really pray that this is going to be something that is going to is going to sweep the globe because it's a movement that I think has come of age. I think it's an irresistible force, and I think although they're not going to give up easily, the left never does, I don't think that they can withstand what's coming in terms of the populist movement. You can see the pendulum has started to swing, and you can see the broad shoulders of the United States swinging that hammer.
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Well, what happened here, Leighton, and it could happen very well in Canada and other countries as well, I call it the not even forgotten man, and literally I mean male, I don't mean female. I mean the pushed away, forgotten man, the anti-male movement in America finally came to roost, and men finally woke up and said, you know what? We're tired of this. We're tired of being told all the time that we're worthless. We don't amount. Our opinions don't amount to anything. And by George, we're going to vote and we're going to vote for the guy that's probably the ultimate alpha male out there. And that's the direction we're now going to head. And that's where we're at.
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Yeah, you know, it's almost like the plot of an old Western movie, you know, like Pale Rider, you know, where these gangsters come into town and the gunslingers take over the town. And then this outsider comes from nowhere into the town and clears out all the bad guys and restores the confidence. of the people in the town, and they help this outsider restore sanity. It's the same sort of idea with High Noon. You're right. And that metaphor seems to be what's happening in the United States. And expanding the metaphor, I hope that that town will also be you know, the global community, because we really have to respond to all the bad guys. That's right. Amen.
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Amen. I'm with you. We're, you know, we want the same thing for Canada that we've had here, because I'll tell you right now, Leighton, I've got good friends that live in Canada. And again, I used to have family there. And I'll tell you that, you know, Trudeau is one of, if not the worst things that's ever happened to you guys.
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Yeah, he is. Everybody gets... Every country seems to get one. And we've got our Justin Trudeau.
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But OK, before I let you go really quick, because I know there's somebody running in opposition to him. How is that going? He's very Trump like, by the way.
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Yes, he is. I would say that he's more like Ron DeSantis than Donald Trump. But that's still a pretty good version of conservatism, in my opinion.
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Absolutely.
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I think Ron DeSantis would have been an excellent president as well. So we have his name is Pierre Polivier. And, you know, he's adapted himself. He's very clever. He watches the polls and he sees the impact of the popularity of Donald Trump And so I think that what he has been doing is sort of leaning towards some of the policies that are so popular in the U.S. and that many Canadians want. So I would see, once he becomes a prime minister, I would see, I foresee a close relationship between the United States and Canada, much like what we had when Ronald Reagan was president and Brian Mulroney was our prime minister back in the 80s.
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What's that timeline look like before I let you go?
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Well, that's a great question. Everybody wants him gone. We may get an early election here, but the absolute limit is going to be October of 2025, which sounds like a long time away. Not that far.
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No, not that far. Leighton, how do folks find you, sir?
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The best way to find us is obviously the podcast is everywhere you find podcasts, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Podbean. But to follow us is on our X page, which is at graymatterconvo. If you like what you see, please follow us. And thank you for having me.
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All right, we are back. And somebody also mentioned that on the text line that part of the reason why Matt Gaetz resigned like he did is because he knows that Ron DeSantis can just appoint somebody to take his seat right away. That's incorrect, by the way. As I talked about on the podcast this last week, which you'll hear, it was on last night, you'll hear it again tomorrow if you want to listen to it or just go to the podcast and listen to it online. But Bob Duco and I were even talking about that because even Bob, which Bob's really smart, But this doesn't happen a lot, and the only reason why I knew about it was because of what had happened here in Colorado with Ken Buck. Otherwise, I probably wouldn't have known either. It's constitutional across the country, not state by state, that if you resign your seat as a U.S. representative, there has to be a special election. The governor controls the timing of... that special election, but there has to be another election. And if you think about it, the reason for that is because representatives are from the people, meaning we elect them. They're not appointed or put in place by another quote-unquote bureaucrat. Senators, that's a different situation, because they're for the state. They represent the state, not... The people, now they represent the people through the state, but you get where I'm going with this, because there's two different roles there. Senators, yes, typically speaking, I think there's 14 states that do a special election, but 36 states, the governor appoints whoever is in that vacancy, that seat that's vacated, the governor then appoints someone to fill that. That's for senators. But in the case of Matt Gaetz, once he resigns, or any of these people, Stefanik, etc., if a U.S. House member resigns, there has to be a special election. This is where I think it's a little dicey for Donald Trump, because you've got to worry about, you know, if there's something... needs to happen quickly, and we're in the midst of making sure we get seats filled back in from these special elections, is there enough in the House to make this particular bill run through? You know, can I get it passed? Now, somebody also asked me about recess appointments. Yes, Donald Trump can do recess appointments, meaning he can appoint people during the recess of Congress and the Senate and so on. He can do that. Here's the catch that I learned. And again, I'm not an expert in any of this, but this is what I've learned. He can appoint them. They can go through that recess appointment. They can get confirmed because it's a much less, you know, it's not as near as stringent a thing to go through in that particular situation. They can be confirmed, but they can't get paid for Until back in session. That's what I've learned. And you guys can check me on that to make sure that I'm correct. But I believe that's what I've been told. And I believe that came from a very reliable source. And I believe that is correct. So, yes, he can do recess appointments. Presidents do. Every president does. Obama did it. Biden did it. It happens. Trump can do it as well. But to my knowledge, and what I believe is true, that can happen. They can be appointed. They can have all that done and even start serving, but they cannot be paid until everything's finally checked off correctly once session starts. So that is my knowledge on how that works. And somebody asked if I would explain recess appointments and what Donald Trump can do. And there's a lot of, you know, details here. And again, folks, these are things where you've got to almost be a student of the Constitution to understand all these things. You know, a lawyer is, I guess, what I'm trying to say. And I'm not. I am not. I am one of you. I still coach other businesses, run my own business, do all sorts of other things, and yes, I do this show, and yes, I study a lot for this show, but I am not a constitutionalist. I am not an attorney. I interview a lot of them, both constitutionalists and attorneys, so I've learned a lot over the years from those individuals, but I'm not one, and I've never claimed to be. But I do read a lot, and I do believe that that's the case. Speaking of people vacating their spot, there was an article out today in the Colorado Sun About Colorado Senator Chris Hansen, who, by the way, is about as far left as you can get. I'm not sure you can go any farther left than Chris Hansen. And I mean that. He is responsible for a lot of the laws. And if I get time today, I'll talk about when some of these, you know, when he's going to affect some of the bills and stuff that even were passed here recently. Stuff that was even done in the last session. He's responsible for. He was the sponsor of. He is a true blue lefty. Who just resigned. He just won his new seat. And by the way, this is a guy that's never won an election until now. He's been appointed until now. He just won. He just resigned, meaning his seat will now be appointed. And he's going to work for a utility down in Durango. And my point with this is, what a scumbag. You knew you weren't going to be here. Guaranteed, he knew he wasn't going to be here. But because he was worried about somebody else from our side winning that seat, he went ahead and ran. I mean, smart on their part. I'll give Democrats credit where credit's due. They were smart in this. He went ahead and ran one, and now since he won't be able to serve, he resigns, and somebody gets appointed to take his place. What a load of garbage, by the way. Chris Hansen, you should be ashamed of yourself. I know you're not. You're a lefty. You'll never be ashamed of yourself, but you should be. What a crock of garbage. This guy basically sews up the left having this seat no matter what, even knowing, I believe, going into this, that he was going to go to work for this utility. Because, by the way, those types of jobs don't just come up last minute. It's not something that he interviewed for yesterday. Guaranteed. Guaranteed. That's been something probably he's been interviewing on the last several months. If not, maybe a year. Who knows? When you go to run, basically be in charge of a utility. Trust me, I've known people in that world. Some of you listening have been in that world, and those things don't happen overnight. There is a complete, especially now with DEI and everything else, there is a complete interview process that goes on with multiple people, internally and externally. Trust me, he knew far in advance what was going on, but because he's such a coward, he didn't want to admit to any of that, and he just resigns, and now somebody else gets appointed to his Senate seat. That's how the left plays, guys. That's how the left plays. Give them credit. You know, they won fair and square. Nothing he's doing is illegal, by the way. It's just, in my opinion, very dishonest. And I will tell you it's unethical. But the left doesn't have ethics. So why would that matter? They accused Donald Trump of not having any. And yet they'll do this. What a bunch of hypocrites, by the way. If a Republican had done this, the left would be all over this saying the same thing I'm saying. They'd be crying foul all day long. Trust me, I know them enough to know that. Look at those dirty, rotten Republicans and what they just did. That guy knew he wasn't going to ever serve, but they knew that he could get replaced right away by somebody in an appointment. So, you know what, they knew all along. It wasn't a fair and square election. That's exactly what the left would say. You guys would be whining from here to the moon and back. I'm not whining. I'm mad. What a load of garbage. And by the way, that's something that won't make the mainstream news, what I just said. It'll make it that, oh, yeah, he resigned to go take over the utility down in Durango. Yeah, that'll come up, but not what I just said. Nobody will take the angle I just took. You won't get that out of our mainstream media here in Denver, not at all. Because they're a bunch of cowards, too. You won't hear Kyle Clark talking about this, guaranteed. Somebody should put a little bug in his ear. What a load of garbage. This guy should have resigned during the campaign and said, I'm not going to be able to serve. I'm taking a job down in Durango as a head of utility there. But again, this is what the left does. They'll tell you how upstanding they are. And oh, yeah, you know, you guys on the right, you don't have any ethics whatsoever. Look at Donald Trump. That guy is just a womanizing pig. And yet you'll do this. And claim victory in it. And not think twice about it. I guarantee you Chris Hansen doesn't think twice about it. Again, my biggest issue with Chris is some of the things that he's passed or made pass here in Colorado that we're all going to now suffer for. Total scumbag. Yeah, I'll call it like it is. Total scumbag. I don't care if he's a senator here. Well, he's not a senator. Now he's resigning. What a scumbag. Good riddance and have fun, Durango. You got a total lefty that's going to go down there and run your utility. Have fun. When the power isn't on, don't come crying to us. Because this is the kind of guy that'll go down there and make you run on windmills and solar. Trust me, that's who this guy is. So have fun down there when the power is out. And don't come crying back to us. I know Durango can't hear me, but some of you guys listening will push that down that way and let them know that. What a load of garbage. All right, Hi-5 Plumbing is next. 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All right, might as well keep talking about Democrats. Our very own Governor Polis, the poser that he is. Yeah, I mean that sincerely. What a joke that guy is. Illinois and Colorado governors announce a state-level coalition to resist Trump policies. All of a sudden, Polis is states' rights. All of a sudden. What a clown. What an absolute clown. First of all, I see nothing that Donald Trump's going to do that would take away states' rights. He hasn't said anything about that. In fact, if anything, for example, he gets rid of the Department of Education, he's throwing that right back to the state. He has said numerous times, I will not sign a nationwide abortion ban. I believe him when he says that. That's a states' rights issue, much like the Supreme Court said. So I don't see Donald Trump doing anything that wouldn't do anything but shore up states' rights versus what I guess these guys feel, these coalition of governors feel, that he's going to somehow rain down federalism on them. Again, this is all just a bunch of posing, just a bunch of nonsense. Gets Polis in the news. Gets him set up for 2028. Trust me when I say that, by the way. If you don't believe me, I'm sorry, but that's most likely what's coming. He will be one of the frontrunners in 2028. This is part of what he's doing. So they're going to be co-chairs. Pritzker. of Illinois and Polis will be the co-chairs of the new nonpartisan, I always laugh when they say that, coalition of the nation's governors committed to protecting the state-level institutions of democracy, which we don't have anyways. ahead of Donald Trump's incoming presidency. Governors Safeguarding Democracy, or GSD, will be overseen by governors and supporters and supported by a network of senior staff designated by each leader while being supported by the Governor Act, an organization championing fundamental freedoms. Again, they act like Trump's going to come in and take everything away from us as a state. Nothing could be farther from the truth. What a waste of money, by the way. Every one of these things, by the way, doesn't run for free. Your tax dollars, as Coloradans, will go to support this. The staffing, our participation in, and so on. This stuff doesn't happen for free. They're collecting money somehow. So GovAct is advised by a bipartisan board that includes former Republican and Democrat governors and senior officials like former GOP Governor Arne Carlson of Minnesota, former Democrat Governor Deval Patrick of Massachusetts, and former Governor Bill Weld of Massachusetts. And frankly, I don't care who sits on this thing. Now, when Biden was there, yeah, I'd want a coalition of governors to protect state rights because they're big Federalists. They want the federal government to control everything. As you guys know, I'm a states rights guy. I don't think we have enough states rights. I think far too many things are run by the federal government. I go as far as I was thinking of this the other day. I would even go as far as to say, do we really need the whole gas tax, federal funding, federal highways, all that kind of stuff? At one time, you know, Ike put in the federal highway system, the interstate system for national security. So we could run nuclear warheads, weapons and so on back and forth across the country as needed. Bridges had to be a certain height. The highways had to be a certain width and so on and so forth. Folks, with the ability for us to transport and do things the way we can now via air and other things that weren't available back then, do we even need that? And by the way, it's built. It's not like we have to build it again. Why can't that money just be diverted to each state on their own and let them handle it and get the feds out of it? Why do the feds have to be involved in the highway system at all? In today's world. And if I'm wrong, lines are open 303-477-5600. I'll take a late break here and go for another few minutes here. So if you want to call in, feel free to do so. Why do we need an interstate federal funded interstate system? Maybe that is something that DOGE... The new department set up by Trump that Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy will run, maybe that's one of the things they'll look at, because I can guarantee you there's a huge amount of waste in that. The Mavis Act that makes... Every single worker that's in one of those projects get paid an above-average wage, costs all of us money. You talk about another area of waste, that's another one you can get rid of. Go to Congress, get that thing changed, get it reversed, get rid of it. If a contractor wants to go out, and they're going to have to pay a wage to have workers anyways, but why do they have to meet a certain hourly wage for a flagman, for example? Or a guy setting cones. Or the guy running the excavator. Or the guy running the paver. Or, or, or. I can go down the list. Every one of those jobs has a set wage by the feds. It's total garbage. All it does is cost us more money. It's ridiculous. Another way to save taxpayers money is eliminate that. Get rid of it. I would add to that, get rid of the whole federal operation of interstate and the roads anyways. Let each state handle that. It's not like we do a great job of that anyways. Drive out of Colorado around any state that we're bordering and tell me how much better the roads are across the border versus ours. So it's not like Colorado is spending that money efficiently. Governor Polis, he wants more states' rights. He can't even fix our roads. He can't take the money that we're even getting from the feds when it comes to that. He diverts it into other things. What a clown. What a clown. And if you don't believe what I just said, go drive it. I'm guessing he hasn't. He's usually on an airplane, not driving, I'm guessing. So he probably doesn't know what the edge of the border looks like going into New Mexico and Utah and Kansas and Nebraska. And I can go down the list of the seven states that border us. The reality is he doesn't know because he doesn't care. He acts like he does. Like I said earlier, he's a poser. He makes it sound like he's all high and mighty for you guys as Coloradans. He could care less about you as citizens of Colorado. He does not care. I don't care what he says. He doesn't care. His actions tell me he doesn't care. In fact, last I checked, he calls most of you selfish bastards. Because you don't wear your mask. That's what he thinks of you, by the way. That's what our governor thinks of you. Can't believe that guy got reelected. What an absolute clown. It's our own fault he didn't. Sorry. It goes back to the conversation I had earlier about our party. And yeah, in that case, I'm blaming the last folks that were in charge. Regardless, we've got to do a better job. We've got an opportunity to have a better governor in 2026, but we've got to start now, and I guarantee you we haven't. I'm not sure why, but we haven't. Anyways, this whole article about this whole coalition of governors basically making it sound like Donald Trump's some sort of a tyrant. All he's going to do is rule over the states. He's going to take states' rights away and so on. What a load of garbage. Again, this is nothing but... posing. It's a scare tactic. It's making people in the state afraid of Donald Trump and the federal government because they think all of a sudden Trump's just going to march through here and take over with the National Guard, which he doesn't even have control of, I guess over the military. I mean, it's just lunacy. Stuff's not going to happen. Trump's not going to do one single thing to take anything away from us as a state. Not one thing. So, if anything, he will add back to what we do here, i.e., the Department of Education. He gets rid of that, we have more money at the end of the day. So I don't see any of that happening whatsoever. Dan, go ahead. We've got a few minutes.
SPEAKER 03 :
So on top of our illustrious governor that we have, he appointed his whatever you call him, the person he's married to.
SPEAKER 14 :
The first man?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I guess, whatever. First gentleman, sorry. First gentleman. He's over Parks and Wildlife.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, I forgot about that. You're right, Dan. Yeah, you're right. The guy that's probably never been outdoors really hunting, fishing, anything along those lines, but yet he's in charge of it.
SPEAKER 03 :
But he loves the wolves, so that's why we got the wolves in the states.
SPEAKER 14 :
You're right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Because they made that decision that the Parks and Wildlife couldn't come out for or against the wolves. And there's a lot of probably wildlife biologists that would have said don't vote for that wolf thing. So it's going to be a battle. I don't know what we're going to do about that. But the Cattlemen's Association and all the Sportsmen's Association have got to get together and start working on how we can combat. Yep. nepotism that's going on with the state.
SPEAKER 14 :
I can't argue that. And again, these sorts of things, as I said, and I mean what I'm saying, Dan, as you know, this is all just posing. This is all just optics. This is to make Governor Polis seem bigger than he really is so that as he goes to potentially run for president in 2028, that's all this is for.
SPEAKER 03 :
And think about his executive order on catalytic converters. Yep. You know, he's They pose themselves as being so caring and everything, but what about the single mom who's trying to raise two or three kids and she can't afford to have her catalytic converters fixed?
SPEAKER 14 :
Because there's three times as much doing it the way he wants done. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and he doesn't care about them. He says he does, but he doesn't care about single moms. And so I don't know. That's just my two cents.
SPEAKER 14 :
Dan, I'll let you go. That's a great point. You're spot on. If he really cared about people in the state of Colorado, number one, he wouldn't have the EV mandate. Number two, he wouldn't have done with the catalytic converters what Dan just talked about, because, yes, it increased the cost of getting that replaced twofold, if not threefold, depending upon the car. He doesn't care. He doesn't care. He'll tell you that he does. But it's all false promises. It's all false. He doesn't care. His actions tell you that he doesn't care. And I don't care if he's listening or not. I hope he is. You're the biggest poser out there. I got nothing good to say. Sorry. I have nothing good to say. The only attaboy that I'll ever give Governor Polis is he's a great strategist because that's what he's doing here. He's good at strategy. He understands that end of it. He knows who to pander to. And he does a good job of that. Outside of that, I mean, I don't have any use for him as a governor, period. He's done nothing for us as a state as far as I'm concerned. Just look at our oil and gas industry and how he's decimated that. And then tell me how much he loves our state. Now, he'll come back and say, whoa, it's all for the good of the people because we're cleaning up the environment and the air and blah, blah, blah. What a bunch of nonsense. Literally. That technology has gotten so much better today that why Colorado isn't drilling and drilling and drilling and drilling and exporting and exporting and exporting its gas and oil and making even more money off of it as a state is beyond me. We have that ability, especially now with what Trump's going to be doing. We more than have the ability now to do that and capture some of that. Capitalize on that is what I should say. Cash in. Flesh Law coming up next. And Kevin wants to help you with whatever legal needs you have. Civil, criminal, Kevin can do it all. He's not afraid to go to court. He'll represent you whatever he needs. 303-806-8886.
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All right, I will on Tuesday talk about a particular article that really proves what Andy and I have been talking about for a long time now. I've been calling for the removal of Dave Williams from the GOP chair for, oh gosh, almost two years. Literally, close to two years. I know he's not quite been there two years, but I started right after he got in. There's an article in Colorado Politics talking about Jarvis Caldwell calling out Colorado Republican leadership for lack of support. And if you don't believe some of what I've been talking about in regards to the current GOP leadership, read that article. Andy and I will get into that on Tuesday. We'll go through this. It literally just solidifies all the things that Andy and I have been talking about for a long time now. Again, I was not bragging, but I was the first person on air, I think in the press period, to start calling out Dave Williams and all the shenanigans the guy pulls. I was on a mission. Still am. I want the guy gone. I want him gone from Colorado. Literally, pack up your family, move back to Florida. Gone. I mean that sincerely. I'll pay his moving expenses even. You heard me. Yes, I said that. I'll pay his expenses. Pack it up, Dave. Get out of here. Move back to Florida where you came from. Or New Mexico or wherever it was. I think his last stint was Florida. Don't quote me on that. I'd have to go look for sure, but... Regardless, I want him out of Colorado. He has done nothing but tear our party apart. In fact, I always have wondered, is there really an R next to his name or is it a big D? Democrat. I don't know. He acts like a Democrat more than he acts like a Republican. The cronies that are around him do the same thing. And if you're somebody that's surrounding yourself with him or if you're around him, shame on you, by the way. You're not very bright. There are some people, by the way, that have been around Dave that I had some respect for at one time that I have zero for now because I can't believe they're that stupid. Yeah, I really can't. I can't believe you're that ignorant to hang out with that guy and support him. But there are. I mean, what's that old saying? There's a sucker born every day and you can't fix stupid. I'll close today with that. Guys, we'll be back tomorrow. We've got movies, myself and Andy. My son's not going to be with us, so I'm not sure what we're doing with NFL picks, but I'm sure we'll figure that out as well. But have a great night. This is Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
