Andy also discusses the broader movements in the corporate world away from wokeness, asserting that this momentum might align with a cultural shift led by recent political developments. Through real examples and an engaging dialogue, this episode sheds light on how big businesses are waking up to the real needs of consumers and throwing off the mantle of enforced ideologies. Listen in to understand how this could signal a return to more neutral and consumer-friendly corporate practices.
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Filling in is Andy Pate, party of choice. And I’m your host, Andy Pate, filling in for John Rush today. John will be back next week. Until then, right now I am joined by Ashley Carter. Ashley, how are you?
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I’m doing well. How are you? I’m doing well.
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Now, Ashley, for those who don’t know you, what do you do here at KLZ?
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I am a writer-producer here for KLZ.
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A writer, producer. So I can blame you for every stupid thing coming out of my mouth.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, pretty much. This is great.
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Oh, man. Oh, man. I can’t wait to tell my wife. This is going to save our marriage. Okay. Ashley, before we get to movies, because we’re going to do some movies. Going to do Moana 2. Going to do Bonhoeffer. But first… Christmas came early this year already because of the election. For me, it came early right there. But also it just came early because of an announcement from Walmart. Have you heard about this?
SPEAKER 11 :
I did briefly.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Well, I want to play a little bit of this. And this is from Robbie. What is his name? I’m spacing his name. Sorry, guys. boom boom robbie starbuck okay and robbie starbuck has been hounding them about their dei policies and this is really important because dei is racism it’s bigotry hardcore and so i want to play a little bit of robbie’s announcement and this is right where he’s just jumping right in to what happened with start with um walmart and just so you know folks um He was looking into them. They got wind of the fact that he was looking into them, so they did something different. They brought him in and talked to him. He made recommendations, and here’s what they did. Here we go.
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Conversations, I am very proud to report to you guys that Walmart has decided on making some changes. I’m going to lay out what those changes are for you and explain how massive this is for our movement. We are unstoppable at this point with a 100% flip rate where we change corporate America and get them back to a culture of sanity and neutrality. Bullet point number one, Walmart will be removing all inappropriate sexual and or transgender products that are marketed toward kids. Things like chest binders for teenagers or books that encourage transitioning. That is all going to be gone. Okay, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. $100 million to a racial equity center.
SPEAKER 11 :
I love that that’s where my money’s going.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, that’s great. That’s a really good place to put the money that we are paying out of our paychecks to buy things at Walmart. Hey, just a reminder for people. There are a lot of people when they hear racial equity, they think equality. Racial equality. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Racial equality, and just as a reminder, that means equal opportunity. That’s a good thing. Racial equity means equal outcomes. Okay, so forced racism by quota, by government, okay, or by a business in this case. So racial equity is bigotry enforced.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, very, very disguised, but bigotry and racism, 100%.
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Yeah, what it basically is is the death of merit. So we’re going to throw out merit. And one thing that’s really upset me all the time, people say, well, what, is it because you’re a white guy and there aren’t any quotas that benefit you? No, actually, the thing that really upsets me is the way that racial equity, and not just racial equity, but social equity, insults every group that you say you’re trying to help. Because what you’re telling every group, you could be telling women, it could be people of color, it could be gay people, it could be whatever, you’re telling them, you can’t make it on your own unless we, the government, or this business prop you up. We have to force people to go through diversity trainings and tell them they have to like you more. And by the way, how does that make you feel, knowing that everybody in your workplace has been told they gotta like you more? I mean, I would feel pretty awkward.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. I mean, you have to imagine that these people know that they’re not necessarily there of their own merits or that people like them for who they are. They have to know that people are being forced to like them and forced to work with them.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. And we just had the ultimate quota hire lose a presidential election. Yeah. Now, I’m not just saying that. I mean, Joe Biden said that he said, I will choose a black woman, a woman of color as my vice president. Mm hmm. He threw out all black men of color. He threw out all white women. He obviously threw out all white men. He said, it’s this one group. And so he basically told all of America, she’s being chosen because of this. And then in the aftermath, he says, oh, no, it’s because she’s such high quality. You know, folks, she wasn’t. So I just want to, we’ll go a little further here because Walmart pledged a few more things. But just real quick here, 100 million.
SPEAKER 11 :
$100 million that we’re giving to Walmart to do this.
SPEAKER 06 :
For a racial equity center to push that on their employees and through their products. Okay, continuing on.
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bullet point, Walmart will no longer participate in the HRC’s corporate equality index social credit system. This scoring system is what has brought wokeness into so many segments of corporate America, and we are happy to see them no longer participating. There is not a corporation in America that should be participating with the HRC’s CEI scoring system going forward. The HRC got explicitly political in the 2024 election. working with everything they have to defeat Donald Trump and calling him every name in the book. It is time for companies to recognize that they need to move away from this system that is explicitly political and embrace corporate neutrality so that everybody is welcome in their stores. Fifth bullet point, Walmart is going to be reviewing their supplier diversity programs to ensure that nobody’s receiving preferential treatment on the basis of race. And they will also ensure that financing eligibility will no longer be predicated on providing certain demographic information. Sixth bullet point, and this is a favorite for me being Latino myself, Walmart will no longer be using the term Latinx in any of their official communications. That is going to be wiped away. I was very disappointed to see it was there, but again, this is across corporate America. So this is a company, Walmart, who is doing the right thing here, and I want to give them credit for that. Getting rid of this, big. We don’t want to hear Latinx ever again. Bullet point number seven, Walmart will be discontinuing their racial equity training through the Racial Equity Institute. Again,
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, oh, amen. Yeah. They were training you in racial equity. In other words, training you to be bigoted. Okay. I’ve been through diversity trainings. They were bigotry trainings. Here’s how to be bigoted. Now, you can be bigoted against this group, not against that group, but make sure to be bigoted. Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
It never fails to amaze me that corporations and people ever thought that this was okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, my gosh. It was unbelievable. What it really is, is this. People on the left who are pushing all of this stuff want power. They always want power. They always want control. And so the second they take even something that’s a good thing, right? Because, golly, stopping oppression of any group is a good thing. Yeah. right 100 so um but they can’t they can’t use that in a good way the moment they take that up they have to use it to do what crush another group they have to use it to do what power use power use control hold them down hold them down insult them and turn people against them the left cannot do anything in any way that’s positive and uplifting ever period okay let’s let him finish
SPEAKER 15 :
Again, getting rid of woke trainings. And last but not least, drum roll please for the big one, DEI. They will be discontinuing use of DEI both publicly and privately at Walmart. This is a massive win for our movement. The momentum just keeps growing. This is the largest employer in the United States worth almost a trillion dollars. Other companies are taking notice. Suppliers of Walmart are taking notice now. With Christmas right around the corner, I’m happy I could deliver you guys one retailer that will drop the woke policies. You’ve still got Amazon and Target acting crazy out there.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, and he’ll get to them. Ashley. Is this yet another byproduct of Trump winning?
SPEAKER 11 :
I believe so.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, is this Trump-mentum going on?
SPEAKER 11 :
I think this is Trump. I think a lot of corporations were waiting to see the outcome of this election, but I think that they were secretly preparing. Because I think in an article it said that Walmart has been looking at some of these for a couple of weeks now, some of these different policy changes.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right.
SPEAKER 11 :
I think corporations were preparing for this Trump momentum, this Trump movement, because they realize they don’t have to adhere to a democratic government anymore. just to succeed or just to make money.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I think that companies, corporate America has been moving away from wokeness little by little. And I think it really began before Trump. If you just look back over the last couple of years, what do I talk about every Friday? Movies. Wokeness is getting Disney and these other companies killed at the box office. Oh, yeah, it really is. And, you know, people are looking and just saying, look, will you please just entertain us? The only differences are when they do a totally female oriented movie, then they can go woke. They can do it with Barbie. They can do it with Wicked. Wicked’s not that woke, honestly, but it’s a little woke. Barbie, of course, was all woke. But they can do it with a totally female-oriented movie and still make megabucks off it. If they do it with any other kind of movie, they crash and burn. They do it with kid movies, crash and burn. They do it with guy movies, crash and burn. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, this is what has been happening. What happened with Trump… was not the beginning. It was really the end of this arc of America looking and saying, will you quit preaching at us?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. I mean, I agree. I think Trump’s election is a byproduct of the United States of America being over all of the woke, all of the DEI. We’re just tired of it all at this point.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. And let me put it even a different way. It’s the top of the hill. It’s the peak. Everything we’ve seen, it’s the byproduct, right? Because it came at the end. Getting Trump elected was the peak. It was the peak rejection out of all this, not just by old white guys like me, but young people who are now doing the Trump dance after a touchdown. I mean, this was America just saying, look, we’ve had it. We don’t want to hate anymore. We don’t want to be bigots anymore. We don’t want to say, hey, this kind of bigotry is bad, but this kind isn’t as bad. Yeah, it’s all bad. It’s all bad. We want to love each other again. And this is why I think so many people right now are feeling such relief. Not the hard left, obviously, but I mean everybody else. They’re feeling such relief because it’s like we can love each other again. Yeah. We don’t have to walk on eggshells and walk through minefields with everything we say in the workplace, everything we say everywhere we go. We can just be together. What do you think?
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, I agree. I definitely feel that relief of I can just exist again. I don’t have to be careful necessarily of my thoughts and opinions getting out there because… The majority of people are agreeing with me now, and in all reality, it seems that my thoughts and opinions are not as crazy and despicable as I was led to believe that they were.
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Well, and also, let’s face it, Ashley, I’ve known you for a little bit here. You’re obviously a strong woman. You’re military. You carry yourself as a strong woman. Woman, okay? You’re no, you know, weak sister off on the side. And how do you feel now knowing this? If Kamala had won, there would be even more and more pressure for women to basically oppress men, for women to look down on them, push them around, and this, you know, basically retribution for years past. Do you get the feeling, hey, man, we can just like each other again? Oh, yeah.
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100%.
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100%. I mean, we could do it anyway, obviously, and we did here, but you know what I mean. Societally.
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Yeah, there’s no longer this pressure to just hate a certain group of people just because…
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some other news source or someone tells us that they’re oppressing us exactly well tell you what for all of us who who get to love again and laugh again and like each other again now we can go to walmart again i was going there anyway but you know what i mean i can feel a little bit happier knowing not one dime that i’m spending at walmart this holiday season is going to go to this garbage and push push bigotry i’m happy so you know what christmas came early Christmas did come early. Merry Christmas. Okay, up next is High Five Plumbing. The holidays are here. We just mentioned them, right? Just mentioned the holidays. And nothing’s worse than plumbing problems when you’re hosting that pig party. Well, just in case, remember this number. 877-WE-HIGH-5. That’s 877-WE-HIGH-5.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver’s Afternoon Rush. KLZ 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush along with… Ashley Carter. Ashley Carter. Ashley, I got a personal question for you. I know I haven’t known you long, but this is personal. You’re going to kind of have to give of yourself. Are you ready?
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I’m ready. Are you ready for a movie? I am so ready for a movie.
SPEAKER 06 :
You are so ready for a movie. Okay. Well, Ashley, how much will someone give up for the truth? That’s a big question. You know, a lot of us believe in truths, but how many of us really sacrifice for truth?
SPEAKER 11 :
I don’t think a lot of us.
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Not very often. Well, we find out in Bonhoeffer, Pastor, Spy, Assassin.
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Hitler has captured the nation’s imagination.
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Bravery is a rare commodity. You will go to England as a spy. What good is the church if it doesn’t speak for the victims of the state?
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The church’s job is to kindle peace.
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Peacefully? Oh, you mean silently. I need you to understand that your life will not be the same after I speak these words. We have devised a plot to assassinate the Fuhrer. Guide our hands. Guide our trembling hands.
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God sent Germany, a true savior!
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Our silence, in the face of evil, is itself evil.
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Words aren’t words anymore, Dietrich. They’re nooses, bullets. This is a trigger that cannot be uncalled for. Will God forgive us if we do this? Will he forgive us if we don’t?
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Ah, will he forgive us if we don’t? What do you think? How does it sound, Ashley?
SPEAKER 11 :
It sounds like an incredible movie. It sounds like something I kind of want to go see.
SPEAKER 06 :
Very intense, doesn’t it? Yeah. Okay, well, before getting into this, I must give an example of how crazy movie reviewers can be. Every now and then I read through just two or three just to get a feel for how they feel about the movie.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
And, you know, see if they agree. And this one went into how this was… Very enlightening because it gave us a feeling for how Hitler rose to power, and it’s a direct parallel to Trump.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. And so because, you know, there’s so many. I got to give them a little bit of credit. The intense Trump supporters. You know, I’m a Trump supporter. You know that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
But, I mean, the only Trumpers, the Trumpies, the, you know, they do come off pretty cult-like.
SPEAKER 11 :
Very much so.
SPEAKER 06 :
Pretty worshipful of the man. OK, so I can kind of understand that. But this idea of this kind of folks just draw a little pretty clear contrast here. Hitler made government bigger. Trump makes government smaller. Now, I know those are almost identical to some people, but they’re really not. OK, do we see the difference?
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, yeah.
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OK, let’s jump in. Jonas Das here. Now, he stars as Dietrich Bonhoeffer, a famous German pastor who stood up against the rise of Hitler. As a child, Dietrich was fairly spoiled in a wealthy family. I didn’t know this. He watched his brother go off to war for Germany in World War II. I mean, World War I. Okay. Back in World War I. And then he later went on to study theology in America. Now, we even see Bonhoeffer enjoying worship in a black church, which is fascinating. Actually, he found the black church in America to be the most real church.
SPEAKER 11 :
I can see that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. And he looked at a lot of the church, rest of the church in America, the white church, and nothing against white people. It’s just that it was like, do you guys even know what it’s like to be tested? I mean, do you understand? And so that was pretty interesting. Now, at times, Bonhoeffer could easily have stayed in America. He could have stayed in America and stayed safe because obviously Hitler was rising back in Germany and things were becoming very unsafe. But he refused safety. We see him go back in Germany, drawn into the anti-Hitler movement, bringing about his great sacrifice and the deepest devotion to God, because that’s when we have our deepest devotion to God is when it’s challenged.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, much of this film is done in flashbacks, so time kind of leaps around. As virtually all Christians know, the Lutheran pastor Bonhoeffer, he suffered horrors in a Nazi war camp. He defended the Jews and used the stripping away of comforts to bring him closer to God. By the age of 39, Bonhoeffer wrote great books like The Cost of Discipleship. And that’s the story of Bonhoeffer, Pastor Spy Assassin. What do you think, Ashley?
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, I think it sounds cool. It sounds like a very interesting movie to go see. It sounds like an interesting story to read about. I’m a big history person.
SPEAKER 06 :
It really was. It was very fascinating. Okay, what works in Bonhoeffer? Well, first of all, Dostoyevsky puts in a fine performance capturing the intellect and the horrors of Bonhoeffer. And I really like that because that’s kind of hard. Okay, that’s pretty broad. It’s fascinating to see the rise of a dictator in the midst of a suffering nation. It’s even more fascinating to see some church leaders embrace a human master like Hitler, and they really did. I didn’t know it was that bad. I didn’t know the church, so many of the leaders threw themselves behind Hitler.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, it’s kind of a scary thing when you actually think about it.
SPEAKER 06 :
It is a scary thing. Now, a lot of people didn’t. A lot of people in the church didn’t, and so it was very much split. We also see the great dangers of government power. The stronger the Nazis grew, the weaker and more subservient the church became. And there was a direct parallel. You could see it. Now, watching Dietrich experience freedom in America was something I didn’t know. OK, I knew what he went through there. That’s kind of what you hear about with Bonhoeffer. Right. And he does his writings while he’s dying and so forth. And I didn’t know that he had freedom in America. I didn’t know he could easily have avoided being a martyr, but he refused. He could have stayed here, hung out. The black church here, they loved him. And not just black. There were white people here, too. He had friends here. People loved him here. OK, and he could. But he wanted to lead his flock back there, even if he knew he was leading them off a cliff.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. I mean, if you ask me, there’s nothing more Christian than, you know, going out and doing God’s work, even if it’s not safe.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, what did Christ do for us? He went out and did his work, even though it’s not safe. Yeah, right. Right. So talk about, you know, following the great example, right? Well, Bonhoeffer did it. I love the simple message. Here it was. Worship God, not man. Period. beautiful message yeah and by the way that is a message that is sometimes forgotten in today’s church it can be so you know folks uh you know not not just people who can really get off on trump i love trump look i’m loving the trump dances i’m loving what’s coming i am but there are people who look at trump because the bullet just barely missed him and they see him as god’s vessel it’s like look god is sovereign and did god sovereignly protect trump yes okay but folks don’t make him more than a man let him be who he is yeah he’s fine okay he’s doing just fine and setting trump aside there are people who also become rabid supporters of this christian music star or that pastor and then they become super pastors and whatever i just think in the church we sometimes forget Just because somebody is really gifted and talented and popular doesn’t make them more than someone else. All right. Let’s see. Oh, it was frightening. Sorry. I’m going to jump ahead here. It was frightening to see socialists use the church only so long as they needed it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
And socialists do that. They rise up in the church. And this is something I’ve noticed with left-wing churches here in America. The more left-wing they become, the more they compromise away and explain away and move away from the scriptures.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
And they do. So they use it only as long as they need it. The more Christianity becomes less popular in America… The more the socialists simply abandon Christianity altogether because they don’t need it. But when Christianity was very popular in America, well, they were all in the church because it was, you know, and it’s just kind of like they don’t believe in it at all. And it was really interesting to see this happening in Germany. They didn’t believe in it at all, but they were using it as long as they needed.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, they believe in power.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. Exactly. They believe in power. Okay, what doesn’t work in Bonhoeffer? Well, some of the dialogue is too pithy. It seemed like everybody had a pithy moment. I almost thought they were going to start to rhyme. And I understand what they’re doing is repeating a lot of the great works and writings of Bonhoeffer himself. But it was just like, okay, okay, that’s enough wisdom. But it wasn’t that bad. Wasn’t that bad. Jumping around so much made it a little difficult to appreciate the timeline.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, I can see that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. Also, it says pastor, spy, assassin. Well, you know what? There wasn’t much spying. He didn’t do hardly any spying, at least not that I saw. Assassin, yeah, he was involved in the plot, but he wasn’t playing a huge role. It kind of seems to me like they played that up a bit. He was mainly a pastor.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
So I kind of wish he would have done more spying.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, yeah, Pastor, Spy, Assassin, to me, made it sound like it was going to be some sort of Bond action film.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, that it was going to be, you know, obviously it was going to be Bonhoeffer, a pastor who was, you know, devout, and we knew what he was going to go through, but I thought there was going to be a little more action. There wasn’t. Much of Bonhoeffer’s life was cut out, okay? So it was tough to see real progression from his early protest to his final sacrifice. It was also tough to see how people were affected. They were affected, but it was tough to see the full breadth of it. This man had an unbelievable impact on the church in the last century.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
In fact, he still impacts the church in this century. OK, this was an incredible man. And it just it just didn’t seem like they were catching capturing all that he was doing.
SPEAKER 11 :
They were capturing him, just not so much the effect that he had on people.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, and I thought they could have captured that a little bit more. And finally, overall, the performances were great, but the storyline, it seemed unfocused. It just kind of lacked focus. It just kind of went along. Okay, so that’s Bonhoeffer, Pastor, Spy, and Assassin. Rotten Tomatoes, not surprisingly, gave it 60%, which is good for Rotten Tomatoes for a, let’s face it, conservative-leaning Christian movie. This is from Angel Studios. I’m going to go right with them. I think they’re spot on. I do out of five stars, just so you know. Three out of five. That’s what I’m giving it. Three stars for quality. I think this was a good movie. I think he had a terrific performance. His performance was much better than three stars. I don’t think this was a great movie. I don’t think it had the focus that it needed.
SPEAKER 11 :
That makes sense.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. For something like this. Political, I’m going to give it a four. It was very good. Obviously, moral or religious, I’m going to give it a four. It was very good, obviously. Do I recommend going to Bonhoeffer, Pastor, Spy, Assassin? Yes, I do. But I just want all the Christians out there who are thinking, I’m going to go to this. It’s going to be the greatest thing ever. I’m going to tell you something. You’re going to see a good movie. You’re not going to see a great one. And that’s just my opinion. There you go.
SPEAKER 11 :
Honestly, in this day and age, I’ll take a good movie.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I’ll take a good movie. That’s great in this day and age. All right. Let’s take a break. We’ll come back with Moana, too. You ready? I’m ready. All right. Up next is Michael Bailey Law. Hey, the needs of your estate, they change constantly, so check in with Michael to keep it up to date. Get your will done with Michael Bailey at 720-730-7274, or you can find him at klzradio.com.
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Now, back to Rush to Reason, presented by Hi-5 Plumbing, Heating, and Cooling, where every call ends with a high five.
SPEAKER 06 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Andy Pate filling in for John Rush along with… Ashley Carter. Ashley Carter. Are you having fun, Ashley?
SPEAKER 10 :
I am having a blast.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right. Well, Ashley, I’ve got to ask you again here. I’ve got to ask you again. Are you ready for another movie?
SPEAKER 10 :
I am ready for another movie.
SPEAKER 06 :
You are ready for another movie. Well, can a sequel build on the original charm and magic of Moana? Disney hopes so with Moana 2.
SPEAKER 09 :
Little fish!
SPEAKER 12 :
Big fish! You were gone forever. It was three days. Where are we going? Before Maui stole Tiffiti’s heart, our ancestors wanted to connect our island to all the people of the entire ocean. It’s my job as a wayfinder to finish what they started.
SPEAKER 18 :
Moana, show our people just how far we’ll go.
SPEAKER 12 :
This is a call from the ancestors.
SPEAKER 18 :
Hidden in a terrible storm, it’s an ancient island. Setting foot on its sands would break the curse, bring our people together again.
SPEAKER 12 :
I know what I have to do. Maui, I could really use your help.
SPEAKER 10 :
Can I get a chi-hoo? You will be destroyed. And your wayfinder, too.
SPEAKER 04 :
Now I kinda miss the lava monster.
SPEAKER 1 :
Ow! Ow!
SPEAKER 12 :
What if you don’t come back? I’ll be back.
SPEAKER 06 :
I promise. She was right. She came back with another movie. All right. Okay. Ali Cravalho. She stars as Moana, the island princess turned wayfinder who rescued her people in the first film. This time Moana must go further than helping her people rediscover the sea. Now she must find other people as she has seen visions of them. There are other people out there. While Moana’s parents aren’t sure there are other people out there, they trust Moana. So they decide, go ahead, go on your quest. But Moana’s little sister, Samia, she really doesn’t want Moana to go. They’re super besties. Okay. They’re very tight, very tight. And she just doesn’t want to see her. Very cute little girl. Very cute. But go Moana must, and she must follow a fire in the sky to find the others out there. I don’t know if it goes over Colorado, but I’m not sure if she came this way. And this time she has a bigger boat and even a crew, including, let’s see here, an old cook named Kele. Loto, the brilliant, quirky girl who’s an engineer and keeps the boat together. And Moni, this big, muscular guy who’s also an island historian and fanboy of Maui. And, of course, you got Hey Hey the Chicken, you got the little pig, you know, you got the bands back together, right? Oh, and about Molly. He’s being held prisoner right now by a bat demigod named Matanji. Now, she serves the evil Nalo. You keeping up with these? Matanji, Nalo, Matanji, Nalo. I’m trying. um nail bad nail bad okay he’s a weather demigod who has cursed mankind at an island called motef motefetu motefetu all right now once mankind was all one here’s how he did it once mankind was all one all together on motefetu but naila was angry at what we could do if we united so he split us up at motefetu and then tore it apart with a great storm All right. All right. That’s why we’re all separated. And they didn’t know if there was any other people. All right. Well, Moana must break Nalo’s curse and bring us together. But he controls the weather and a giant clam, of all things. I don’t even want to go there. Anyway, it’s all very dangerous. So Moana and Maui must work together once again. And also Moana’s crew, they’re very different personalities. And they must unite and work together as a team along with Maui. But can they defeat Nalo and undo the curse? Can mankind come together again? We find out in Moana 2. What do you think?
SPEAKER 11 :
Sounds interesting. It sounds like they’re probably doing the same thing they did with the first Moana, where they’re digging into Hawaiian history, Polynesian history a little bit.
SPEAKER 06 :
It’s similar. Okay. What works in Moana 2? All right. First of all, the opening songs were pretty good. And there were a few funny lines throughout. There were some nice funny moments here and there. Secondly, there were pretty good sight gags with flipping hair. These islanders can flip their hair, right? And the Moana bees, the girls who want to be like Moana. That’s cute. And Charlie, I’m afraid I didn’t have you queue up crickets. I should have. Because what else is good about Moana 2? Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Guys, this is a bad movie. I’m just going to tell you something. Yuck. All right? This should have been released on TV and cut down into maybe episodes. I really don’t know why. I think that was actually originally the plan, wasn’t it? Yeah, Charlie’s nodding yes. Yuck. Okay, what doesn’t work in Moana 2? Hey, this is going to take a while. Here we go. The songs are less memorable by far than the original. They’re silly. They’re not catchy. Rock’s song, his song, was pure garbage. Well, this fourth song where Moana, she’s trying to motivate her crew. So they just shove a song in so she can sing motivationally.
SPEAKER 11 :
Great. I got enough of that in High School Musical 2.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Well, she could have done kind of a Tony Robbins thing, you know, and really motivated that. I don’t know. It wasn’t very good. The water. Remember how the water was a really funny character in the first film?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, the water was a character in and of itself.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, well, the water’s a character in this one, but just kind of hangs around and is cutesy or whatever and isn’t funny. All right? I like the water when it was funny. Here’s the biggest problem, and I’m not kidding. I am not kidding. My wife went to this with me, okay? Okay. So she’ll back me up. By the way, folks, she’ll be here in the next hour. About 10 minutes of story in 100 minutes of movie.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, great.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, I’m not kidding you. Everything was dragged out. The launch when they’re launching to go out was dragged out. Stupid songs were added that you don’t care. They would just take dangers and challenges and shove them in there so you would have dangers and challenges. They didn’t really play into the plot line. They weren’t really… key or crucial. They brought back the coconut people because we have to bring back the coconut. I will say I did enjoy them with their darts that would make you sleep.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Make you numb and that kind of stuff. Babes basically a Novocaine kind of gag. So that was kind of fun, you know, sort of kind of momentarily.
SPEAKER 11 :
For a little bit.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, a very little bit. You know, very… Underline, boldface the word, little. Let’s see here. Ultimately, they face Nalo, but he’s just an outline or something who attacks them by reenacting the movie Twisters. Oh, great. We got twins! We got twins! This was… Nothing. I mean, you barely even see Nalo, all right? Now, here’s something that is only going to probably be seen easily by someone like me who is a theologian, which I am. There’s an intense anti-Bible agenda. A few people are going to pick up on it, so I don’t think it’s that big of a deal. But it’s underlying, and it’s definitely there. God separated us at Babel, and now the evil demigod Nalo separates us with the curse of Modu Fetu. And then, of course, has a big, great storm to keep us apart and break up the land and all this. I mean, this was basically an attack on what God did at Babel.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, they’re essentially saying that God was afraid of us. That’s why he separated us.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. And only Moana’s courage can challenge this terrible God, thus bringing mankind back together in a globalist paradise. We love each other. If bad old God doesn’t split us up, you see, then it’s all going to be great. And, you know, for folks who are wondering now, Andy, do you really think that they are? First of all, they are that liberal. Even the girl, you know, Ali’i Cravalho, who plays Moana, is a very liberal. Very liberal, very intensely liberal. You know, she’s bisexual. She’s this angry person who, you know, hates on DeSantis for what he did with Disney and all this. Although, you know, she works for Disney, so I can kind of understand that. But it’s just she she’s one of these hardcore leftists. who fortunately is not as stupid with her mouth as Rachel Zegler. Yeah. Okay. This was icky. And there was definitely an underlying agenda there. Now, the beautiful thing is, guys, kids aren’t going to get any of that, so who cares? Okay. But it does mean later on, if kids ever do learn the lesson of Babel, they’re going to kind of have a different feeling about the guy who launched it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Probably.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. It teaches a real message there. And here’s another thing that’s icky about this movie. It’s icky. There’s a lot of gross humor in this and slime and ooze and stuff all over them and stuff. You know, I guess that’s cool for an old Nickelodeon skit.
SPEAKER 11 :
I was going to say that’s so I don’t want to insult them, but that’s so DreamWorks. Oh, that is DreamWorks type humor.
SPEAKER 06 :
And that’s early week DreamWorks. Yeah. I mean, it’s icky. It’s yuck. Guys, it was gross. There’s a lot of gross humor in this. I’m not going to describe it. Let’s see here. All this is tied together by boring songs and a tiny storyline stretched thin over an hour and 40 minutes. It’s boring. I was so bored. Thankfully, my wife was there. So I left the movie, literally left for about 15 minutes. I had to get away.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know a movie’s bad if you have to walk out of the theater for a second.
SPEAKER 06 :
I had to. I had to get out and just walk around a little bit because I knew she could fill me in. And I figured, you know, she married me. I’d let her suffer. All right? That’s her penance. Well, she suffers enough. I mean, she’s married to me. I mean, my gosh. And she did it. And boy, she hated this movie. She hated it more than I did. I think Elon and Vivek need to stop Doge from cleaning up our government until they clean up Disney. Yeah. All right, please bulldoze Disney. No more Moana twos. This was awful. It was boring. The music sucked and it had an underlying agenda, which was so poorly conveyed. No one’s going to get it anyway, except theologians like me. And so this is just a bad movie. It’s boring. I’m not saying there aren’t good moments throughout. There are, but they’re tied together by a lot of yuck.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, do you remember when Disney, whenever they came out with a sequel, it was always straight to VHS, straight to video sequels.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, right, right.
SPEAKER 11 :
They need to go back to doing that. If they want to make a movie, pop it out on a VHS.
SPEAKER 06 :
But this was like the Mulan sequel. This is like those cheapo rotten sequels that were put out. Yeah. Okay. Only they put this on the big screen to make a lot of money. And it’s going to make huge money on its opening weekend. Keep in mind, folks, kids don’t care. No. I mean, kids have no ability to discern quality. All they want is shiny things on the screen. You can put a sparkler in a kid’s hands and light it. And that’s going to give them all the entertainment value of Moana 2.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s become such an excuse for studios, though.
SPEAKER 06 :
I know.
SPEAKER 11 :
Where they’re just like, well, it’s for kids. They don’t care. Yeah. Doesn’t matter. Doesn’t mean you can put out stuff like this.
SPEAKER 06 :
Look, we always knew this when I was managing at movie theaters. We always knew we were going to get crushed on the night of Thanksgiving. Why? Because everybody’s sick of each other. They’ve got cabin fever, right? They can only make it to about three. And then they start pouring into the theater. Now, folks, I know what you’re going to do. You’re going to take your kids. You’re going to take them to the theater. You’re going to open the auditorium door. You’re literally going to throw your children inside there. And you are going to run away from Moana 2 and go watch Gladiator 2 like, you know. A normal person. Like a normal person. Rotten Tomatoes. They gave this 67%, which was very friendly, and it’s got a small left-wing agenda. Not much. It’s just a little woke, whatever. I don’t care. Quality, I’m going to be friendly. For me, it was a half star, but I’m going to give it one and a half stars. Wow. Which is, by the way, much nicer than my wife. My wife, who’s a beautiful Christian woman, I really can’t repeat the words that she had to say about this movie. Political two, more religious one. I did not like the underlying theme, no matter how poorly it was conveyed. That is Moana two. Do I recommend going to Moana two? Folks, it doesn’t matter if I recommend it. You have no choice.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
You are the prisoner to your children, okay?
SPEAKER 11 :
If your children want to go see Moana 2, you’re going to go see Moana 2.
SPEAKER 06 :
You are going to go see Moana 2. So what I’m recommending is earpieces.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, that’s good.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay? Listen to the game. Listen to a podcast. Listen to whatever makes you, you know, listen to ocean sounds if this helps you get away from it all. Do whatever you got to do to make it through Moana 2. Notice how that rhymes?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right. All right, let’s go to break. Up next, we’ll talk a little bit about Kamala.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, yay.
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Suck it up, buttercup. Back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 06 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s afternoon rush, KLZ 560, Andy Pate filling in for John Rush, along with Ashley Carter. Ashley! What’s up? I’m sorry about Moana 2.
SPEAKER 11 :
I know, I’m really disappointed about that.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, but I want you to listen to something that’s just as impressive as Moana 2, and that is Kamala Harris released a video message for her peeps. And here’s just a little piece of it.
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Just have to remind you. Don’t you ever let anybody take your power from you. You have the same power that you did before November 5th. No, you didn’t, you lost. And you have the same purpose that you did. And you have the same ability to engage and inspire. So don’t ever let anybody or any circumstance take your power from you.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, so that was the very brief. Okay, that’s coming off the thing.
SPEAKER 11 :
I don’t understand this narrative of you’re going to lose your power. No, you’re not.
SPEAKER 06 :
Don’t let anyone take your power. You’re powerful. She sounded loaded. Come on, be honest.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. I mean, I thought she was drunk throughout her entire campaign trail, to be honest. But she sounds like she’s two boxes deep.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah. Well, at another point, she’s talking about the war goes on. It never ends. Well, her bar tab never ends. I’m going to tell you something. You know, I really I know it sounds like I’m making fun of her, but honestly, folks, I feel bad. I feel bad. It hurts when you see all these people in Hawaii and you know that they have to be sober for a month because she drank all the alcohol there. Okay? I mean, let’s be honest. There’s no alcohol left in Hawaii. No. Okay? She went through it. That’s why she came back. That’s why the trip ended. Because nothing left. Yep. None of those, you know, I think she even got one of those, you know, what are those parachutes or whatever in their teeth?
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Umbrellas.
SPEAKER 11 :
Umbrellas. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
I want to I want to get a drink with umbrellas because I think she had a few. What do you think? I mean, she sounded like I understand the depression. I feel bad for her there. It’s horrible to lose an election like this.
SPEAKER 11 :
Especially when you were 100 percent set up to fail.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. But she sounds bad. Yeah. This didn’t sound good. And, you know, she’s talking about their power, their power, their power. How about we how about talking about we got to come together for the good of our country? Yeah. How about how about we’re going to build a greater country? You don’t have to say make America great again, but how about we’re going to build a great, great America together? How about we’re going to do this together and get excited about it, even if you’re having to act that way? You know, this is the way you do it if you’re smooth. She isn’t smooth. No. All right. Well, that is the end of our number one, folks. And our number two, my wife is going to join us and we’re going to be talking about cartoon movies. Yes. Which are your favorite kind of movies, aren’t they? They’re my bread and butter. Exactly. So if you want to give us a call, 303-477-5600 and tell us your favorite cartoon movies, that’d be pretty cool. Yeah. And you better know some because your kids want to see them. All right. So I’ll do that. And until then, keep it right here on Rush to Reason, KLZ 560.