HR3 Rush To Reason December 16, 2024 by John Rush
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It’s Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush. Presented by High Five Plumbing, Heating, and Cooling, where every call ends with a high five.
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All right, we are back. Hour three, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Time for our Monday Mortgage Minute. Kurt, how are you, sir? I’m doing just fine, John. How are you? I’m doing very well. Affordable interest mortgage. And, Kurt, folks out there listening that may be thinking about refinancing their home, when should they think about that?
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Well, the first thing when somebody calls me up, you know, how much money can I save? What are the rates? I’m going to ask them. I said, how much are you looking at saving to where it makes it worth it? Normally, if you can start to save, depending on the loan size, $100, even $100 a month can actually benefit you. But the average person is going to save anywhere from $150 to $400 a month on a refinance. And that’s not taking into consideration that in most cases, you’re going to skip two payments. They’re going to be deferred. So if your payment’s $2,000 or $2,500, now all of a sudden you’ve saved $5,000. That $5,000 can go a long way to pay off credit card debt.
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Somebody out there listening says, well, yeah, but rates aren’t quite as low as I’d like to see them go. I mean, Kurt, let’s say they go ahead and do it now. Can they do it a year from now again if they really drop substantially?
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If they drop substantially, you can do it in seven months.
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Okay, seven months. So for those of you listening, don’t worry about that end of things. If you can be saving money today and then do it again on down the road, why not?
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And if you’re saving two months’ payment, it basically pays for the refinance. So it’s not costing you anything if it’s seven months down the road either.
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All right. Talk to us about down payments. Somebody out there listening, maybe they’re looking at potentially, you know, Kurt, they’re looking to maybe buy their first home. Or, you know, maybe they’d like to take some equity out of what they have, change areas, do something a little different. What are they looking at for down payments?
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Most people believe you’ve got to put 20% down. Otherwise, you’ve got to pay mortgage insurance. While that is true, that’s not necessarily costly because the mortgage insurance that they’re having on most of these homes, if you’re doing a loan for 85% or 90% loan to value, they’re nominal. And you’re getting such a great rate up front on it, it really doesn’t bother you to pay the money because you’re still saving so much. So right now you’re seeing banks with special programs that you know, 10% down or 5% down on a first-time homebuyer. There’s some great programs for that.
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Okay. Again, all of you listening, 720-895-0500 is the number to call. That’s Affordable Interest Mortgage. Kurt, you take over Haystack Help Radio on Wednesdays from noon to 1. What are you guys doing tomorrow?
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We’re going to be talking about a lot of questions customers have called in and asked me, and I’m going to be answering them on air tomorrow.
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Awesome. Kurt, as always, I appreciate it. And if I don’t see you, well, I’m going to see you Thursday, so never mind. Kurt’s going to join us Thursday. We’re going to talk Thursday. Yeah, all of you listening, Kurt’s going to be with us an entire hour on Thursday evening at 5 o’clock, so join us then. Otherwise, Kurt, I will see you then.
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Take care, John.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. And again, appreciate you all listening. And again, those of you that are in the whole mortgage end of things, if there’s a question, by the way, specifically you’d like me to ask Kurt Rogers on Thursday, on any level, everything from construction loans to you name it, if there’s something you’d like me to ask Kurt, please let me know. You can send me a text message, 307-200-8222, and I can sure add that into my notes to ask him questions. on Thursday. Then don’t forget, you can always call in live during the Thursday show as well, during that five o’clock hour, third hour, and ask questions as well. Kurt’s always happy to answer them. And as far as mortgage brokers go, I will just tell you right now, one of the not only nicest guys you’ll meet, but one of the smartest guys in that industry as well. So Elizabeth Mitchell joining us now. Welcome back, Elizabeth. How are you?
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I’m great. Thank you.
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Thank you very much. Daily Signal, co-host of the Daily Signal podcast. All right, you’ve got a story about a detransitioner that sued a doctor who prescribed her irreversible sex change drugs at age 12.
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Yes, it is absolutely shocking. So to summarize Clementine’s story, when she was 12, she was experiencing some discomfort related to her body. She’d been sexually assaulted as a child and had some trauma related to that. But unfortunately, she was diagnosed as transgender, was placed on puberty blockers, hormones, and was eventually got a double mastectomy at age only 14. Later ended up regretting it in college, went to therapy, realized it was just that trauma she had from her childhood. that she hadn’t dealt with and that she really was a girl, decided to start living in accordance with her biological sex, and now she’s suing the doctor that allowed her to make a decision that is irreversible that she’d later regret at such a young age.
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Now, again, I’m I’m a parent, but I’m not her parent and wasn’t there. So I don’t know what all went on. And, you know, the advice that, you know, a parent was getting. I do know, though, Elizabeth, as parents, we listen a lot to what the medical staff and doctors and so on say. Now, I will say there’s times where I still think we as parents need to step in and, you know, do what we know is right for our kids. But on the same token. I will at times give parents a little bit of grace because we rely heavily on the medical community, correct?
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Yes. So that’s pretty much what happened here. The doctor, Dr. Joanna Olson-Kennedy, a very controversial child transgender doctor, she told these parents that if they didn’t let their child take these transgender drugs, that even though they might affect fertility of other side effects, then she would probably commit suicide. They said you can choose between having a living son and a dead daughter. Even though Clementine wasn’t even suicidal at the time, this is just a classic, classic motto of these transgender doctors of you can choose between suicide and being transgender, and it’s just a lie, and Clementine knows that now, and so do her parents.
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And again, I apologize because I should have paid more attention to the video that I was watching, but I believe she testified on Capitol Hill about all of this as well. Am I right in saying that?
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I’m not sure. She’s currently at UCLA studying theater. There are other detransitioners, though, who have been very prominent here on Capitol Hill, such as Chloe Cole. She’s testified several times about her experience talking about how transgenderism stole her childhood, took away what should have been innocent, young, fun years of her life, ended up leaving her in a hospital for years and years. And so it really does create lifelong patients in a way that kids can’t consent to at the age they’re being allowed to in many states.
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The reason I ask that is because the particular testimony that I watched, basically the doctor said the exact same thing that you just said about Clementine. So I’m thinking, okay, wait a minute, is this the same person? And if not, it tells you the rhetoric those doctors continue to use is my point.
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Yes, that really is the prevailing rhetoric around this, is that kids will commit suicide if the parents don’t let this happen, and it really is a scare tactic that I think is used by these doctors to make a lot of money and to push their political narrative.
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Yeah, and thank you for saying that, by the way. I’ve talked about this before in my program. It’s been probably… I know it’s been a while since I’ve done this. And as you may or may not know, Trinidad, Colorado, which is a town south of Denver, quite a ways south of us, almost to the New Mexico border, not quite that far, but it’s getting close, way closer to New Mexico than it is actually to the Denver area. And a lot of this whole transgender sex change end of things was pioneered, if you would, just here in Trinidad, Colorado. Colorado. And my point with all of that is the money side of it. You are spot on. It is huge money that these doctors get into when they get somebody to agree to do a transition or sex change or whatever the case may be.
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Yeah, and it’s not just one procedure, one prescription. They’re creating a patient for life. That’s right. Surgery, it’s not a one-time thing. That would be expensive if it was, but it’s not. There’s going to be upkeep. They’re going to have to do repeat surgeries to deal with the side effects. It’s going to be drug prescriptions for life. It really is just a repeating, just endless money stream for these doctors.
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Elizabeth, I coach small businesses on the side outside of what I do here. And in that world, anytime you’ve got especially a retail business or any business, you’re trying to get as many repeat customers as you can because it’s much less costly to keep somebody that’s already coming in to come in than it is to try to go out and find a new customer. These doctors have it made. Literally, they’ve got built-in business for the life of that patient. Right.
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You’re completely right. They’re having people who are not just getting their product once, but are going to be getting it many, many, many times, and that is very lucrative.
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And nobody, by the way, other than folks like yourself and me, nobody’s talking about that side of it. Everybody’s looking at this like, Oh, the poor kid, you know, they don’t know what they’re doing and they don’t know what body they’re in and blah, blah, blah. And I’m not trying to make light of kids and the struggles they have. But, Elizabeth, these struggles that kids have had going through puberty, frankly, have existed since the beginning of mankind. It’s a change in your whole world, your body. Kids change at different times in different ways. And, you know, no two kids are the same. And I’ve raised plenty to know that. I mean, every one of them goes through these things differently. Some adapt, by the way, very, very well. Some really struggle. It’s just part of life. Am I right?
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You’re totally right. That’s pretty much Clementine’s message as well, was that she wishes the people had just told her that growing up, going through puberty, being an adolescent is difficult for everyone. Everyone has a lot of complicated feelings during that time. And that doesn’t mean you should change your body. It just means you’ve got to get through it. And those in your life should just love and accept you for where you are and shouldn’t tell you that you need to change your body to make your body match your feelings, which will pass.
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What do you think, outside of making these doctors accountable for what they’re doing, which I believe they need to be, so that’s one side of it, but outside of that, how do we change that whole narrative of, well, you were assigned this gender at birth, not you were born this way? I mean, how do we start to turn that tide back, frankly, the direction that it needs to go, because, Elizabeth, I say it on air all the time, and I don’t mince any words. I look at the whole transgender end of things very much like Clementine to where there’s some mental things going on that really need to be addressed. This is more of a mental illness end of things that we really need to help these kids get through as opposed to changing their bodies. How do we change that narrative? I mean, what I’m saying makes it sound really, really bad when, frankly, it’s a whole lot less – damaging to the child to talk about a mental illness and how do we overcome that versus changing your gender. Am I correct in my thoughts?
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Absolutely. You are right. We need to tell it like it is. We need to stop using these euphemisms that have become so common. Even conservatives are sometimes using these words. We should not be saying sex assigned at birth. We should be talking about God-given biological sex. You’re either male or female. That’s all there is to it. We should not be using the phrase gender-affirming care to refer to these irreversible medical interventions for children. That is not what it is. It’s lying to children. And I think you’re completely right that we need to win this not only by helping kids to accept their biological sex, but we also need to make sure the way we’re talking about it is truthful. And that comes with not using phrases like sex assigned at birth and gender-affirming care.
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And for everybody listening, and Elizabeth, I think you probably would agree with me on this. This is, in my opinion, all part of the master plan of the Marxist movement, because if they can, A, confuse kids, B, get kids to change gender. C, that means these kids will not be reproducing on down the road. Therefore, what we do as far as our population is concerned changes. And ultimately, it’s all about control over the population as much as it is helping these kids out. Am I right or wrong?
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Yeah, I think that we’re seeing a lot of these efforts to kind of make people not have as many children among the left. Not only are we seeing that with abortion, of course, is a really obvious example, but also with having people… do things to their bodies that make them infertile. And the saddest thing about that to me is that these kids are making the decision to be infertile when they’re children themselves. They don’t even know they want children. They don’t even know what that means. They have no idea what they’re committing to. They’re committing to not being able to be mothers and fathers one day, and that’s an extremely weighty decision that… I think it’s really sad that kids are able to do that.
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I agree. I mean, and you’re proving it with a young lady named Clementine. Reality is as they grow up and they get a little older, and by the way, their brain matures and they mature and they start looking at life a little bit differently and they think, oh, crap. I guess I’ve ruined all of my chances to actually have kids and have a family and do what some of my peers I see doing are. They’ve eliminated themselves from that.
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Yeah, and I think we can all pray and hope that maybe it’ll be possible for these people to get married and have children and have normal lives. That’s really what they want looking back. And I think the biggest way that we can… The biggest thing we can do here is to just prevent that from happening to more people by saying you’re making a change to your body that you’re never going to be able to go back on that and you really need to be an adult before you can make that kind of decision.
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I want to close with that because you hear some of the left come out and lie to people by saying, oh, these things are reversible. There’s nothing that’s going on that’s irreversible. Elizabeth, nothing could be farther from the truth.
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You’re completely right. This is reversible. If you regret it, you can go back. You can get your old body back. You can change your mind. You can go back to being a girl if you want. But it really wasn’t that simple.
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No, it’s not. Elizabeth, thank you again. Daily Signal, Daily Signal podcast. And again, I’m sure the podcast, they can just go find it, any of their favorite podcast sources, right?
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That’s correct.
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Absolutely. Elizabeth, Merry Christmas. Thank you, by the way, for all the time you spend with us. I appreciate it very much.
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Merry Christmas. Thank you so much.
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You’re very welcome. And again, Daily Signal, as you guys all know, we interview several folks from there, plus I follow them, get something in my inbox from them on almost a daily basis, if not daily, and I appreciate all that they do, and they’re fighting the good fight. Support them any way you possibly can. Golden Eagle Financial is up next, and as you look to your financial future, and maybe you know where you’re going, or maybe you don’t, and if you don’t know, you really need to know, talk to Al Smith today. Find him at klzradio.com.
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All right, I have something I’m going to play. I was going to play actually last Thursday, but we ran out of time. Had enough other stuff that went on during that particular day that I didn’t have a chance to do it. So this is John Stossel, and he’s talking about why government can’t build anything. You guys hear me talk about that quite often, but he’s really solid, as you know, and I’m going to let him go through. This is going to talk about charging stations for EVs and broadband. Here we go.
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Both parties visibly happy to announce agreement.
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Three years ago, Republicans and Democrats grabbed your money promising.
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To build thousands of miles of fiber optic cable.
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Cable that would provide high speed internet to all of America.
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$65 billion broadband push.
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Three years later, no one’s been connected. Not a single project is underway.
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Okay, really quick. That’s dated October 4th of this year. So probably hasn’t been anything hooked up in the last two months either. So there you go.
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Why? Because governments aren’t good at building anything.
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As Milton Friedman put it, Very few people spend other people’s money as carefully as they spend their own.
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Politicians spending other people’s money wasted it. Private companies laid miles of cable while government officials obsessed about giving broadband to the right people. Boys, girls, people of color, people living in rural America. Aging individuals, prisoners, LGBTQ persons. Any company that wants funds to build broadband has to hire certain people.
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You have to hire these certain people based on their color, based on their sex, and you have to use unions.
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Matt Cole’s investment company researched the government’s funding and made this ad. What am I looking at here?
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Oh, there’s nothing more important than making sure you’re representing all the right causes. You have all these companies that could actually do this, and they say, this is unimplementable with the restrictions, so they just walk away.
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Eventually, government will probably succeed in installing some broadband. But by then, this hard-to-install cable may be totally unnecessary because of satellite internet like Starlink. Starlink already exists and costs much less.
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They could do it literally today. You could have devices in these people’s homes within the next couple months, and they could have high-speed internet access.
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So why didn’t administration officials do that? They said Starlink failed to demonstrate it had the ability. Then, once it became clear that Starlink obviously did, the administration said it won’t use Starlink because it’s a monopoly.
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So first they’re not functional. Now they have a monopoly. The reality is that they didn’t want that to be the solution. They don’t want to give money to Elon Musk.
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Take over, Elon! Yes, take over!
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But now, Musk has a friend in government, so things may change. But that’s not a good way to spend your money. Politicians doling it out to their friends. In fact, politicians have a bad track record when they decide what to build. They pump billions into high-speed rail. Fifteen years later, we still don’t have it. They lost $500 million on Solyndra. Almost a billion trying to create synthetic fuels. More recently, a Biden meatpacking scheme starved a million chickens. And although Biden promised government would build 500,000 charging stations. Two years later, how many have they built for $7 billion? Seven. And again, government’s failure at building things is not just a Democrat thing. Republicans joined Democrats in grabbing your money to build computer chip factories. We will enable advanced semiconductor manufacturing to make a comeback here in America. Democrats bragged about adding strings.
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Diversity, equity, and inclusion. The CHIPS Act contains 19 sections aimed at helping minority groups.
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You already have a talent problem. Now you’re looking at only being able to recruit from a very small minority of individuals. Then you have to do climate pledges. Then you have to hire from unions. But diversity is good. And there’s been horrible discrimination in this country. That doesn’t mean that you should shift the pendulum back to hire someone because of their race or their skin color if they’re a diverse candidate.
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All right, I’ll leave it at that. John from Cheyenne, you are next. Go ahead, John.
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I’m sorry. I was just thinking about your last guest. She was great. But we have to think about this as Christians, and God’s perfect. He doesn’t make mistakes. So when somebody who claims to be Christian comes out and says, well, I think I was born in the wrong body, you’re saying, no, God made a mistake and created me wrong. And we have to start saying that back to these people when they say, well, the child’s confused. No, the child needs a little bit of Christianity and religion, or maybe even Judaism, brought into their lives. to teach them that they were made in God’s image.
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Right. Agree. John, that’s been my whole mantra from the transgender standpoint for the longest time, and I’ve taken heat from the left on that and don’t really care because they’re loonies anyway, so at the end of the day, you know, you’re correct. I mean, I stand by, and again, I know it’s fundamental, I believe that God… created the world and all of us as well, and creates each child as well. And no, God doesn’t make mistakes. Now, I also—some would say, well, then how can you say that, you know, some kids aren’t born with some developmental problems and things like that? Well, we live in a fallen world, and some things happen because of that. That’s all.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. But to say, I was created wrong, is wrong. And the whole thing with the trans thing— is the LGBTQ, when they got the Supreme Court ruling that gays could marriage and everything, they didn’t just say enough is enough. They veered to trans because they didn’t want to lose all that money they were getting.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and I think, though, and along those lines, John, I do think that as time goes by, it’s already happening. You’re going to find the gay community, quote-unquote, separating or dividing themselves once again from the trans end of things because at the end of the day, they’re realizing that these trans people, for the most part, number one, are not on the same wavelength and doing the same agenda that the gay side is.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, and there’s already a group out there online that’s read some of their posts called Gays Against Groomers.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 11 :
And they consider a lot of these trans people groomers. They’re just looking to groom.
SPEAKER 05 :
Looking to groom. They’re looking to, you know, men wanting to be women to go hang out in the women’s restroom and things like that. I mean, again, at the end of the day, these guys… A man wanting to be a woman, going through the whole change, then quote-unquote is a woman, but then still likes women. No offense, John, that person’s not gay. That’s still a heterosexual man that just figured out how to get in with women.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Sorry, that’s all it is.
SPEAKER 11 :
I know that I’ll probably wind up in jail, but if I see somebody that was born a man, and I can tell that they’re not a woman… going into a restroom where my wife or my daughter or my granddaughters are, we’re going to have a problem.
SPEAKER 05 :
I can’t disagree with that. No, I’m the same. That’s just not going to be allowed.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s not going to happen. If I am 63-year-old, I’m just not going to allow it to happen. Right. But going to Stossel, I follow him on Twitter or X, and I saw that video last week. I mean, he’s so phenomenal with just pointing out a waste. And that first one with the broadband, I mean, I’ve lived in the middle of nowhere for 20 years. I’ve had internet since I’ve lived here. Yes, it was crappy when I first got it in 2004. Now, I don’t have any problem with it at all. And that’s all through the free market getting better. And I look at it this way. Every time the government steps in, they make it worse.
SPEAKER 05 :
John, I don’t think there’s an exception to that.
SPEAKER 11 :
The only thing the government does well is the military for the most part.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and here’s a question for you because you’ve been in it. Do they?
SPEAKER 11 :
You know what? If you took the Washington bureaucrats, the generals who became bureaucrats out of it, and you say from a corps commander down, they do a pretty good job. But once you get above that, like, core command, then it’s all politics anyway.
SPEAKER 05 :
And that’s what I mean by, you know, do they. By the way, I didn’t say that to go against any servicemen or women that are out there, you know, fighting for our country. I’m talking about the higher-ups, government, if you would, and what they do. Because at the end of the day, I would even argue they don’t do that very well.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, but even if, you know, if a core commander got an order saying, you’ve got to defend this, you know, 10 miles. they would know how to do it and do it well. Because that’s what they do. That’s what they train for. From that level, which is a three-star general on down, most of them have common sense. And if you get to where Pete Hegseth was before he got out of the military, he was a low-level officer. He was on the ground, so he knew what’s really all about. But to go back to what Stossel was saying, if Elon and Vivek and the rest of that crew could just stop programs like that, how much better off would we be?
SPEAKER 05 :
And, John, as you know, I interview folks on here, as you know, all the time, and the reality is it’s widespread. It’s not even just one area of government. It’s one after another after another after another. That’s the main issue, as you know.
SPEAKER 11 :
I’ll give you a prime example. Do you know that there’s a tax on your telephone bill? And I believe it’s on cell phone bills, too. That goes back to the mid-1910s, where they were charging a small tax to extend telephone lines. Yep, telecom tax. Yep. And they’ve never gotten rid of it, nor will they ever get rid of it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Once it gets started, it never stops.
SPEAKER 11 :
It goes in there. Until somebody stands up and says enough is enough, it goes in their pocket. Like the part Stossel was saying where you’ve got to hire… two of this and three of that and four of those, that’s not the way business runs. If you hire 10 guys, you know those 10 guys are going to do the job. Why do you care if they’re all, for instance, they’re all gay? If there’s 10 guys that can do the job and do it well and they’re all gay, I don’t care. I don’t care. Can they do the job? That’s the question. So, John, you have a good day.
SPEAKER 05 :
You too, man. Appreciate you, John, very much. Have a great rest of your night. Joe, you’re next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 12 :
And, John, I had heard the Stossel thing last week, but what I had heard actually a couple years ago, and I’m looking for it right now to send it to you, you know Prager University, right? They actually did a piece a couple years back that goes even back several hundred years where they do a deep dive on government’s repeated failures to get things done. I think they started with the construction of the Intercontinental Railroad, how much time and money the government wasted and how little track got laid there. And then they finally decided to give up on it. Privatize it. Well, they didn’t actually fund anybody.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, at that time they called them the Barons. Those guys did.
SPEAKER 12 :
The Barons decided, screw it, we’re going to do it. Not a dollar’s worth of government money. They laid down, they got the entire Continental Railroad coast-to-coast built in like three years. And the government has skewered around for something like five and didn’t even get 100 miles of track laid.
SPEAKER 05 :
I’m still surprised, Joe, that we built things like the highways and Hoover Dam and so on, which, by the way, I don’t think we could even do today.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, and by the way, and it all got built, of course, by private contractors.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
And they weren’t tied up in knots by environmental impact statements, by Davis-Bacon wage laws. They didn’t have DEI quotas they had to make. Eisenhower just said, who was Republican, by the way, just said, here’s the money.
SPEAKER 05 :
Build it.
SPEAKER 12 :
We’re going to specify what the road has to be, you know, what it’s got to be made of.
SPEAKER 05 :
By the way, one thing, I doubt this would happen, but one of the ways that Doge would save the everybody money, by the way, across the board as far as governments are concerned, is to eliminate the whole Davis Act in and of itself, Joe. They would save gazillions of dollars coast to coast by doing so, as you know.
SPEAKER 12 :
Excuse me, not just at the federal level.
SPEAKER 05 :
Every level.
SPEAKER 12 :
When the I-25 expansion, John, any… Any county, city, road in this, any building, the state of Colorado, you know, if a new school gets built in this state, it’s Davis-Bacon wages. A new county road gets built with no government money, it’s Davis-Bacon. These people standing out there holding the little slow stop sign where they stop you and then turn the sign, you know, they’re getting paid.
SPEAKER 05 :
Flagman, they’re called. Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
They’re getting paid $30 an hour.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep. And for all of you listening, there’s a table, there’s a list, by the way, for every contractor that agrees to sign up for that. And as a contractor, because I know I do this, you have to provide proof that you’re paying those employees on those particular jobs that particular wage. Even that employee, Joe, doesn’t normally make that wage. If you go out and even do some subcontracting work for those particular individuals, you’ve got to pay that particular wage, even if that worker is working for you, for less money doing it on a daily basis otherwise.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right. And, John, I’ve got to tell you how far back some of this stuff goes with the DEI hiring. I’m going to go back 40 years. I was working at a New York City area for Carrier, and we do big industrial air conditioning units. So we had this massive project to rehab a unit at LaGuardia Airport. That was one of their main – and, John, this unit is as big as a tractor trailer, as big as a – it was massive. You could work on it from the inside. Anyway, so we had this big 150-page contract from the LaGuardia Airport Authority, whatever, And, of course, we were a union company. We were employing union employees. So it wasn’t a Davis-Bacon issue. But buried in this contract, they had some minority labor utilization provisions. And I had called the business agent and said, hey, look, I need, you know, so many minorities, you know. And he said, well, I’ll send you what I got. Anyway, about two weeks into the project, I get a visit from one of their inspectors. And they said, let me see your payroll, you know, who’s – How many of these are minorities? And I said, well, this one, this one, and this one. And she said, you’re four short. I said, well, I called the union. They don’t have them. And her answer to me was, not my problem.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, she didn’t care.
SPEAKER 12 :
She doesn’t care that I tried and couldn’t get them. They were not available.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
And she said, not my problem. And she was going to start assessing me penalties. So I literally had to get with the business agent and said, look, I need to hire some people literally off the street. I need you to give them a temporary work card. And, John, these people were completely unskilled. Unreal. And we basically gave them some lenient work.
SPEAKER 05 :
All those things do, to your point, Joe, to cut to the chase, is add costs.
SPEAKER 12 :
So all it did was add costs to the project.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep. Everybody thinks that our taxes are this and our taxes are that and this is that and that’s that. I mean, the reality, Joe, is there is so much of that utter nonsense that goes on that drives the price of everything up.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right. And so from that point forward, John, every time I bid a job for the city of New York— or the state of New York, I always – and I would look to what the minority – because, again, we were a union shop. I always looked at the minority hiring provision, and I just added in – if it was five additional bodies, I just added in the cost of five additional bodies that were going to be basically nonproductive.
SPEAKER 05 :
That you had to have there on the job just because.
SPEAKER 12 :
That I just had to have on the job just to meet the quota. And when I say – I shouldn’t say no. They were mentally, you know, we had them doing cleanup work. We had them basically hauling.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, but they’re not as efficient as they would be doing something else. You’d have a skilled laborer working.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right, but can you imagine paying somebody, by the way, right about now it’s about $45 an hour. Can you imagine paying $45 to push a broom?
SPEAKER 05 :
No. Ridiculous.
SPEAKER 12 :
But that’s what, you know, but if you’re working in New York City right now, either for the city or the state, and every contract you get will have a DEI quota, and you’ll just, and if You’re not, you know, and if you’re a union contractor, you’ll just have to.
SPEAKER 05 :
You don’t have any choice.
SPEAKER 12 :
You’ve got no choice.
SPEAKER 05 :
It is what it is. That’s right. You’ve got to agree to it. Otherwise, don’t bid. Yep, you’re right. Joe, appreciate that very much. Spot on. And I appreciate that coincides with what we were talking about, the video I played with John Stossel. Cup Creek Heating and Air Conditioning, talking about HVAC, which Joe was involved in for a very long time. If you’ve got any problems with your furnace at all, please give Cup Creek a call today. KLZradio.com is where you find them.
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SPEAKER 05 :
All right, we are back. A few minutes left here of this Monday edition, and one thing I wanted to talk about, which this applies all the time. Yes, it’s more important during the holidays right now, but really this particular PSA, public service announcement, can apply any time, and that is the scammers that are out there. And I have a 12 frauds of Christmas that I will not have time to go through all 12. I might be able to do that a little bit later this week, but… I was, I shouldn’t say almost victim of, but a reminder to me, I already had this in my notes, and then this happened earlier today to me. And some of you have probably experienced the same thing. But I had one today that was really hard to tell that it was a scam. Phishing is what I should say. And it was a text message that had come from the USPS, which I’m like, I don’t know that I have any packages coming, but it’s Christmas time. There might be. I don’t know. Who knows? A lot of things going on right now as far as that. And they needed to verify the zip code, my address, zip code, to make sure that it would come through customs. So it could be something coming from overseas or whatever, which, by the way, a lot of things do. And so at first I’m like, oh, I’m not sure. So I went ahead and just copied. I didn’t reply to the message or anything. I just copied and pasted the link that they had. And sure enough, it went to the USPS.com website with all of the right letters in front, the SSL certificate, the whole nine yards. And, yes, I can look at those things. And trust me, it was accurate as far as all of that was concerned. Okay. What wasn’t accurate was the last part of the URL, and it was asking me to fill out all the personal information. Not social security or anything like that, but name, address, phone number, verifying all this information that they were asking for. And I’m like, man, this just doesn’t seem right. And I went to the main, for me to figure this out, two things. I went to just USPS.com and went to the tab that this particular page that I was on was under, and I did a side-by-side comparison, and there was no link to what I was looking at. If you go to USPS.com and you go to the tools section or whatever it is, there is no place to verify an address. So that was the first clue that I had was this thing is a phish is because that doesn’t exist as a link on their website. The second thing, because once I saw that, I’m like, OK, where did this message actually originate from? What phone number? And as I looked, there was an out of country code first and then the phone number. And I’m like, OK, there’s there’s my real, you know, there’s my real message. clue as to what’s going on here. And then I went ahead and just went to USPS.com and looked at their scam end of things and their phishing sides of the fence, which is what somebody was trying to do to me, was phish for some information. And again, in this first page, I didn’t see anything that wasn’t pretty easy to gain on someone anyways, but you don’t need to give anybody anything they don’t already have. So I just went ahead, deleted, reported that. I use an iPhone with Apple. You can actually report that as junk spam, whatever, to where hopefully it blocks those in the future. My point is this. You have to be extremely, extremely diligent and sharp on some of these messages, emails, and things that you’ll have come in because even somebody like myself who is – I’m just telling you, I’m very on top of these things and knock on wood, I’ve never been scammed yet – But today, I’ll tell you what, they’re just getting more and more sophisticated all the time. 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Suck it up, Buttercup. Back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, that’s it for today, folks. Thank you all for listening very much. I appreciate it. You can always listen to a past episode, by the way. Just go to the website, rushtoreason.com, and find us there. Myself and Andy will be back tomorrow. Enjoy your evening. This is Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
