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In this episode of Drive Radio, automotive enthusiasts, Mark and Ken, engage in an insightful discussion about the intricacies of ignition timing for classic cars. They delve into the history of the Bel Air Chevrolet and unravel some common misconceptions about its engine specifications. As the conversation unfolds, they switch gears to tackle modern topics, exploring the performance dynamics of electric vehicles, and providing practical tips for efficient car purchasing.
SPEAKER 10 :
Being an expert on general automotive knowledge, what would the correct ignition timing be on a 1955 Bel Air Chevrolet with a 327 cubic inch engine and a four barrel carburetor?
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It is a trick question. Watch this. Because Chevy didn’t make a 327 in 55. The 327 didn’t come out until 62. And it wasn’t offered in the Bel Air with a four-barrel carb until 64. However, in 1964, the correct ignition timing would be four degrees before top dead center.
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Get ready for another hour of Drive Radio, brought to you by Colorado’s select auto care centers. Got a question for the experts? Then give them a call, 303-477-5600. Now it’s time to pop the hood and get our hands dirty. Drive Radio on KLZ 560 The Source.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Mark Guernsey with me today from Accountable Auto Care up in Broomfield. Ken Rackley from Toon Tech Automotive down here, not far from the station, by the way. Over here in Aurora, Colflax and 225. I sort of drive by Ken’s place almost daily.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, right. Just didn’t hear.
SPEAKER 06 :
He could see me. I’d wave. Exactly. He’s a little bit off the road there. Just yell. I’m sure I’ll hear you. Absolutely. So anyways, we appreciate these guys taking time out of a beautiful Saturday. Yes, it’s a live program today on the 21st of December as we wind down the year. So if you’re listening to a replay, you know what day it is, and we appreciate all of you listening as well. Jeff up in Steamboat, how are you, sir? Hey, Jeff. Are you there?
SPEAKER 22 :
There we go.
SPEAKER 06 :
I didn’t know your mother had passed. Yeah, this past September she did, yes.
SPEAKER 22 :
Oh, my. Oh, I’m so sorry. Well, I never met her, but it’s a pleasure meeting your dad and your uncle. when I scouted your place there last year. Well, I appreciate that.
SPEAKER 06 :
My dad is now in memory care. My mom was his caregiver, and then when she passed, he had to go to memory care. Oh, man, what a change. It’s been a long summer, Jeff. Let’s just say that.
SPEAKER 22 :
Oh, my gosh. I’m so sorry about that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, thank you.
SPEAKER 22 :
And I was surprised to hear you on today. Last weekend… My daughter and I went up and got our Christmas tree cut, so I was out of range to be able to listen to you, but today we just got back. from uh being in denver doing a commercial oh nice you’ll see it on the you’ll see it on the super bowl okay good it’s a pretty pretty cool one with some uh some guys you’d recognize awesome but it’s for fan duel and it’s oh it’s pretty hilarious very cool i’ll look forward to that jeff awesome yeah yeah but what a day up here too we just need some snow it’s uh muddy and on christmas day so skiing will be better yeah we to your point even down here while we like this nice weather we’re having well my feeling is it’s either nice or it’s snow one of the two but yeah we could use some snow we’re at that point yes definitely exactly yeah it’s it’s kind of scary down there if the wind’s blowing yeah we need some snow yeah and uh well i don’t have any questions for you this time i’ve followed your advice on uh getting the Rancho shocks for the truck, and I don’t have any other problems right now. Oh, I know one thing. My son has taken his, he got an appointment with, is it Alltech up in? Yes, up Fort Collins, yes. Fort Collins, yeah, that’s where he is. Nice. And he’s got an appointment to have the transmission service, and then he’s coming up for Christmas.
SPEAKER 06 :
Nice. It’ll be great on Monday. Well, we appreciate that, Jeff. Thank you.
SPEAKER 22 :
Those guys are good.
SPEAKER 06 :
They are. Pat’s a good guy.
SPEAKER 22 :
He’s been in there before.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Awesome.
SPEAKER 22 :
I want to meet him when I get over there.
SPEAKER 06 :
Awesome.
SPEAKER 22 :
Anyway, you guys have a great day.
SPEAKER 06 :
Jeff, thank you, man. Appreciate you very much. Have a great rest of your day, and thank you so much for your sympathy. Soren, you are next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. Well, on buying cars, number one thing is if you’re buying a pickup, try going to the fleet guy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, well, just remember, if you’re a regular retail customer, they may or may not talk to you.
SPEAKER 1 :
Right.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, but if you buy a lot of vehicles.
SPEAKER 06 :
If you buy enough, yeah, you’ll have no issues there. And, yeah, for all of you that are listening where you’ve got a small company and you own two or three vehicles or something along those lines, or your family even with four or five vehicles, you can usually get in and get something done, Soren. But, yeah, if you’re a one-off buyer, they’re going to send you over to the retail guy.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and then having a really good relationship with your salesman, knowing everything about the guy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 11 :
Even knowing his address works pretty good sometimes.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and, you know, as you know, this, by the way, is the other advantage that the fleet guys have, Soren, as you know, is they’re typically at the dealership way longer than what you’re going to find the average retail guy. Some of the fleet guys have been in some of these positions in town for a decade or two, and I’m not exaggerating. So it’s totally the opposite of the retail guy.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, well, at the dealership, we do a lot of business with – The guy there, he’s been there 23 years. He’s on the retail side, though.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I’ve got several of those I work with, and one of them is almost ready to retire, which I’m not looking forward to because I hope his replacement is as good as he is.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. That’s one piece of advice there. I’ve had a lot of experience even for being 16. I’ve been working with a guy buying him a lot of vehicles.
SPEAKER 06 :
Nice. Good job, Soren.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Yeah, I watched a video yesterday put out by Hagerty Media Group.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
They had a Demon 170 versus a Lucid Air Sapphire on the track. And the Lucid would just constantly pound out 9 second quarter miles compared to the Demon doing 10 seconds.
SPEAKER 06 :
Not shocked.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, that’s kind of insane.
SPEAKER 06 :
And it’s a heavier car to boot, so factor that into it.
SPEAKER 11 :
I know, but people who say that electric cars aren’t any good.
SPEAKER 06 :
That is not a correct statement. Now, I will say and always have that most people buy electric cars for the wrong reasons. There are some folks that do buy them for the right reasons, and I think those folks end up being very happy with what they buy and so on. The people that typically aren’t happy are the people that are even… against them, number one, aren’t buying the car for what its intended use was. Now, I also will say this, Soren, that the news media and the government have not done a very good job when it comes to EVs and the explanation of and what their capabilities of and their limitations and so on. They make it sound like it’s an everyday driver for everybody out there, and you’re just going to go coast to coast in the thing, and nothing could be farther from the truth. But to your point, Soren, the performance side of an EV – I mean, even that 500E that I was talking about that’s the least special, you know, just west of us here from the station, still a really fun car to drive for being a very small car.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, they’re kind of insane little cars.
SPEAKER 06 :
That 500E is actually a fun little car to drive. Again, I reviewed it this last summer. Nothing wrong with it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I know it’s just a little bit far.
SPEAKER 06 :
yeah and again that the limitations on that car is it’s 150 mile range now most people don’t live and work more than 40 to 50 miles away from work so you still got plenty of range for that you charge up at night and off you go but yeah you’re not going to hop in that car and go to the mountains and back yeah most well the only real good car for going long distances is the teslas Teslas or the new GM pickup has a long range. Actually, I believe right now it’s the longest EV range out there, I believe. Now, some of the Lucids might be a little longer, although I wouldn’t buy a Lucid or some of the others because I’m not sure they’re going to be around. I know there’s Rivian owners even listening. I still wouldn’t buy a Rivian right now. Who knows if they’re going to be around down the road.
SPEAKER 11 :
Teslas might not have the biggest battery pack or go the farthest, but they definitely have the best charging network.
SPEAKER 06 :
They manage it the best is the way to say that, Soren. Tesla manages their battery system better than anyone.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and they also have the best charging network out there.
SPEAKER 06 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. And that’s the only way you’re ever going to get anywhere is if you’ve got a good charger.
SPEAKER 06 :
Correct. But, again, most people buying them are not going coast to coast or even outside of the city.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right, yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, another good advice for buying a car is call them and make sure they got all the paperwork ready before you get there so you don’t spend a ton of time in the dealer.
SPEAKER 06 :
Can’t argue that. Yeah. Can’t argue that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Have it all set up before you go in. Yep, exactly. Yeah, because you can do that all prior to going in if you’re buying it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Because your time is worth a lot more than sitting in a dealership for hours upon hours.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you. And going back, Soren, even what I was talking about when you first walk into a dealer and walk on the lot and so on, I mean, it’s okay for you to say that, hey, you know what, today my time is limited. I’d like to buy this particular car. I’m going to cut to the chase. We’re not going to work off of payments. I want to know what your bottom dollar deal is on said car. I’ve already got my financing approved, you know, so on and so forth. And my plan is if I buy this car, I’m out of here in an hour. I’m not dinking around. That’s great.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good way to go.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, well, my dad had it. He had a deal with the other dealer. He had it, so he walked in there, and within 10 minutes, he drove out the new pickup.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, to your point a moment ago, you get some fleet deals going.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, if it’s already purchased, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
You get the right fleet deal, you don’t go to the dealership. They come to you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, right.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, well, that’s also the best.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, I don’t know that, you know, not trying to brag, but because of the relationships and so on that I’ve had over the years, I can’t tell you the last time I picked up the car at the dealer.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
I just don’t.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s true for a fact.
SPEAKER 06 :
Don’t want to.
SPEAKER 11 :
If they make it, well, they’ll offer to bring it to your house and bring you the paperwork and just make it super easy.
SPEAKER 06 :
And it’s simple. Then it’s literally a five to ten minute transaction and you’re done.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. And you don’t have to ever leave home. Nope. Only way to go. That’s the best way to do it. Yeah. Just got to buy enough vehicles to make it work.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s exactly right. You’re correct.
SPEAKER 11 :
Then they start liking you a lot more.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s right. Well, like anything else, Soren, you start having a history there, and they understand what you’re doing and how that works and so on.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. I’ll say this, though. Working with non-commissioned salesmen compared to commissioned salesmen, there is a big difference.
SPEAKER 06 :
Of course.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep, goes back to the whole fleet thing again. Right. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
They pretty much know their bottom line, and, you know, that’s… There you go.
SPEAKER 06 :
Really quick, too, before you go, Soren, I was looking at Rivian’s projections just for grand. So their net loss projected for 2024 will be one point… $1 billion down 20% from the previous year. Yes, they still have some cash in the bank, but for those of you listening, yeah, that’s a car I wouldn’t buy right now until they get financially better off because down the road, depending upon what EV sales do, they may not be around.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, just add that to the list of what Elon can buy next.
SPEAKER 06 :
There you go. It wouldn’t be a bad line for him as far as having trucks go.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, something compared to a Cybertruck.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, that thing’s ugly as sin. The biggest difference, and not to get off on a tangent here, but the biggest difference is Rivian does their whole car production management and so on way different than what Tesla does. So I’m not sure how that marriage would work, to be honest with you. I don’t know, Soren, why Musk would want to buy it, because at the end of the day, he could build what they’re doing just as easy without having them involved at all.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I guess we’re going to see, or at least our family is going to see what it’s like to drive a Cybertruck because we rented one for the day after Christmas.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, nice. Well, call in afterwards and let us know. I’m anxious to know.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, it’s going to be interesting.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I’m anxious to know.
SPEAKER 11 :
So, yeah, okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, Soren. Thank you, man. Appreciate you very much.
SPEAKER 11 :
Have a good day.
SPEAKER 06 :
You too, man. Appreciate it. And good kid. I love Soren dearly. He’s one of those young people that have been raised right. So, Soren, thank you for that very much. He’s 16 now.
SPEAKER 09 :
Crazy.
SPEAKER 06 :
So, Soren’s driving now. He started calling us when he was 14 or a little younger than that even. We’ve known Soren for a while now, so Soren, thank you. It’s been fun to watch you grow up, by the way, and I mean that sincerely. I appreciate you very much.
SPEAKER 09 :
And hopefully that car’s available when he goes to rent it and it’s not in the shop because the last couple times I rented an EV, it wasn’t there when I got there.
SPEAKER 06 :
Good point, Mark. Good point.
SPEAKER 08 :
We were in Dallas a couple months ago or so, and my daughter and son-in-law had, you know, you know reserved uh compact basically they got there and it was a volt okay volt or an equinox or something or bolt yeah yeah sorry and um and they’re like uh you know they didn’t have and we didn’t know how much we were going to be driving so they’re like so anyway they got moved into a mustang gotcha it’s because it’s like yeah i would have driven the bolt Well, I know, and I told them that. That’s because I’ve had one. Yeah, right, exactly. And I told them about your experience in, what, Hawaii or something.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, they work great.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, exactly. But you have experience with them.
SPEAKER 06 :
That helps.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, it’s all new, this whole area. They would have been fine with it because they wouldn’t have needed to charge it or anything. Yeah, it wouldn’t have gone that far anyways. Right, and plus we had a Wagoneer that we rented.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, there you go. So you’d have had it covered either way.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, right. But they’re like, yeah, they moved into the Mustang. And they said that was fun. But, you know, I said, oh, you would have been fine with that.
SPEAKER 06 :
You would have been. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 08 :
Because everything was a 20-mile radius.
SPEAKER 06 :
You’d have been fine.
SPEAKER 08 :
We were only there for three days. So, yeah. But, you know, it’s something that, you know, if you don’t know, you don’t know. That’s right. And I said most of the time the hotels will have some type of way to charge it and stuff. And it won’t even cost you and stuff like that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely. All right, guys, we’ll come right back. Lines are open, 303-477-5600. Don’t go anywhere. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Lyle in Nebraska. You’re next. Go ahead, Lyle.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I just have a question. I was told by a dealer out here, dealership, that the transmission fluid doesn’t need to be changed unless you’re having problems with it. I have 32,000 965 miles on this 2020 Silverado.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, first of all, they’re incorrect. It does not have, you know, they’ll tell you it has lifetime fluid, but lifetime of the transmission maybe is the way they could say that. No, that particular transmission, especially given that that one’s under the recall, which did they tell you about that, Lyle? No, they didn’t. That one’s under recall. And you’ll be getting some stuff in the mail on it. And that one in particular, I would be doing a service at about every 40,000 miles because of that recall that’s out there, which is on the valve body. And I won’t get into all the details. We talked about it a couple of weeks ago. But reality is it can have some valve body issues. And I feel personally that if folks would do the services on that like they should, they probably wouldn’t have these problems in the first place. I get it. There’s been some new transmissions even with problems. But once they get past that and guys are out driving them and so on, I feel like if they’ll service the transmission, Lyle, they just won’t have those same issues. And that’s opposite of what the dealer will tell you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. And are you tolling a lot with it or are you just – Is it just maybe transportation?
SPEAKER 05 :
Maybe just around town.
SPEAKER 06 :
40K, you’re fine. Yeah. Yep. And it’s a fluid transfer. So whoever does it, when they do it correctly, not the dealer, by the way, because they won’t typically do this, find a good independent that will do this for you in your area where they flush it out. They take all the old fluid out and put all new fluid in.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep. Where am I going to find one of them again? Well, and I’m not positive.
SPEAKER 09 :
I think there’s a Napa Auto Care Center there.
SPEAKER 06 :
You can always go to either make a phone call 1-800-LET-NAPA, or you can go to NapaAutoCare.com and find a location near you that way.
SPEAKER 08 :
But be sure and ask the question, do you flush it? Right. Not drop the pan and fill. It needs to be flushed. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 09 :
Transmissions are like batteries, and their life depends on how hot they get, what the temperature is.
SPEAKER 08 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 09 :
And the new fluid is the best way to keep that temperature down.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep. Luckily, you don’t have a lot of hills there, things like that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, they have hills.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, grades like we do, but not so much. No, no, they actually do.
SPEAKER 06 :
They have sand hills and the dunes there.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s Mark’s area, Lyle, as you can tell. Yeah, I’ve got relatives in that town.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, there’s bluffs and it’s not level.
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s not flat. Sorry, I’ve only seen the flatlands.
SPEAKER 05 :
But it’s not. It’s nothing like Colorado. I grew up in Colorado. No, that’s fair. Sure.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, point being, Lyle— And you’re not towing. The dealer’s wrong, like they are a lot, because they’re trying to sell everyone on a total cost of ownership, and they’re going to tell you that you don’t need to service it, and nothing could be farther from the truth. It still needs serviced.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s what I figured. I’ve listened to you for years. Thank you. That’s what I kind of knew, but I— I talked to the guy the other day, and he said, no, you’re fine unless you start having problems with it.
SPEAKER 09 :
But once you have problems, it’s too late.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s right. It’s done.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you, Mark.
SPEAKER 08 :
And it does need to be changed then, but the whole transmission needs to be changed.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, now you’re a whole other ballgame. So, yeah, no, you need to change it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. And it does take a special fluid. It’s not the Dex-6.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. It’s full synthetic now, Lyle.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Okay. All right. Good question, Lyle. Thank you very much, by the way. Mac, hang tight. We’ll come back to you in just one second, so don’t go away. Myself, Ken Rackley, Tunetech Automotive. Mark Guernsey, of course, from Accountable Auto Care up in Broomfield. And if you need either one of these guys, just go to drive-radio.com. Again, drive-radio.com. Stay tuned for this review. We’ll be back right after that. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560. It’s that time of the week where we do our car reviews. Richard, you just drove a 2024 Toyota Land Cruiser, and it’s not like the Land Cruisers of old, or maybe it is.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I was going to say, there’s sort of a play on words here, right? It’s not like the Land Cruisers… Of the recent old, right? It’s not the ones that they just got rid of. And so for some of you, I guess, buffs or car buffs, we’ll call it, right? You’re more used to the bigger Land Cruiser, right? The more luxurious one. It had the TVs and all sorts of stuff on it. That is no longer the case. They actually got rid of that for a year, brought this back. But it’s not to be confused. This is a midsize SUV, five passengers. It’s right between like a 4Runner and a Sequoia, if you’re familiar with kind of the truck-based SUVs. There’s no longer a V8. It is a V6, and in this case, this was actually the hybrid version of it. I’ll kind of get to the details here. Yeah, basically, it’s got a 2.4-liter four-cylinder engine with the hybrid system, 326 horsepower, 465 pound-feet of torque. This thing, Dad, is sort of meant to be bought. and go out on the road, or I should say off the road in a lot of cases, right? This is meant to do that. And like you said, you are more familiar of the Land Cruisers of, I guess I’m going to call them yesteryear. This much more aligns with that.
SPEAKER 06 :
It does. I mean, yeah, way back in the day with the… FJ40s, FJ60s, some of, again, you old car buffs that Richard just mentioned. I remember some of those vehicles from way back when. They were sort of a runoff of the Jeep CJs back in the day. And then the Land Cruisers, of course, came along. And they ran that way for a very long time until they really… I guess I could say, Richard, modernize that platform. And it was very popular around the world, not just here in the U.S. And people would drive those things for half a million miles and not exaggerating and came to love that vehicle. Well, as you said a moment ago, that particular model ended. You can get… You can basically get that vehicle only in a lot more luxurious form on the Lexus end of things, but it is not one of the same. That’s, I think, some of the confusion as well. In the past, Richard, you could buy the Land Cruiser or get a little bit fancier Lexus of the same basic vehicle. That is not the case anymore. This is more of that old traditional Land Cruiser style.
SPEAKER 03 :
It is. I mean, it’s related to the new Lexus GX in a way, but it’s different, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
But it’s not, yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
Because that GX, you can get with a third row and such, and this Land Cruiser, you can’t. And I’ll kind of get into the specifics, and then we’ll finish talking about the rest. Three trim levels, Dad, for this model year, 2024. 1958, which is, again, a throwback to kind of the no-nonsense, no-frills origin of the Land Cruiser. The medium edition, literally just called Land Cruiser. or the first edition, which is, you know, sort of, well, it’s what it sounds like, right? It’s kind of a special one. You can get some different things on it. You can spruce this vehicle up. The one we drove was not spruced up, right? It had cloth seats. It had, honestly, heck, it didn’t even have a power driver’s seat. I’m manually, you know, pumping myself up if I wanted to sit higher or lower myself down or scoot forward, whatever it might be there. It does have some things as far as dual-zone climate, but if you… And it’s got a smaller center screen. Again, we drove the 1958 edition, I want to specify there, which, again, is supposed to be an ode to the older generation. As it sat, Dad, again, not a whole lot of options on it. As it sat, $60,790, which, again, you have to be the judge of it. I will say this. At our altitude, and I think off-road, which we didn’t get a chance to take it, and we’re even limited in what we can or can’t do, this vehicle ran really well up here at our altitude, Dad, with the i-Force Max technology underneath the hood. This thing got up and went. It went when you wanted it to. Some people argue that the braking was a little bit subpar, but what I would say, Dad, is it’s still a big SUV. I mean, it’s not a small car by any stretch of the imagination. So, again, it’s not meant to be a little sports car that’s going to be able to slam on the brakes in that sense. But they’ve done a nice job at allowing for some upgrades if you want to, depending on what you’re looking for. This particular model had a roof rack, had some rock rails on it. In terms of styling, Dad, it’s not like the Land Cruisers of yesteryear. It’s more modernized, right? It is. It’s got some sleek, a little bit boxy. Again, folks, if you’ve seen the new… Lexus GX is running around. You’ve seen these. But this is not the Land Cruiser of the outgoing model, Dad. And that’s not to say it’s a bad thing. And like you say, sort of an ode, and a lot of people are going to know this car, Land Cruisers, from many years ago. That’s kind of where they want to get back to, right? They want this thing to be the do-it-all model. car for you to do it all suv right you can take the kids to school and that you can go off road you can take this thing camping you can tow some you know you can tow your camper depending on how you want to do it it really is meant to be that you sport utility vehicle right you know the suv it’s really meant to do that in a lot of cases and so i think they’ve done a nice job on it um my only honestly nitpick dad is just for the 1958 you’re paying sixty thousand dollars for a car and you don’t get any of the frills that I mentioned. But that’s just a personal experience, right? That’s more of my personal opinion. Some of you, Dad, and some of your listeners may say, hey, when I’m off-road and I’m doing some of this other stuff, I don’t want to mess with any of that, right? I don’t want to have the risk of my seat not working or to get some water in it. or whatever it might be. So outside of that, very comfortable, quiet. The roof rack did add a little bit of wind noise driving down the road, but that’s to be expected pretty much on any vehicle when you start adding some additional accessories, Dad, as far as that goes. That’s right. Overall, was really pleased with it. Fuel economy, let me get that for folks really quick, was an average of 23. And again, this is partly, it’s a heavy vehicle, Dad, but due to that hybrid technology where you can actually hear and feel the engine, shut off at times 22 city 25 highway and again we were actually right there about 23 24 miles per gallon so for folks that want to learn more they’re starting to get some of these on the dealership dad i’ve seen several of them driving around town they are out there we encourage folks to get out as we always do test drive it because what we think that and what we like or don’t like someone may differ completely from that and so that’s why we encourage you get out to your toyota dealership and let them know that john and richard rush from drive radio and rush to reason sent you
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SPEAKER 06 :
all right we are back drive radio klz thanks for listening mac and falcon you are next sir are you there mac yeah hey john how are you sir you hear me okay i can hey uh so i’ve got a
SPEAKER 10 :
2007 VW Jetta that I bought new, 2.5 liter, manual transmission, 5-speed. When I got the car, they told me it was a sealed transmission, and I didn’t need to change the fluid, and I have done just that. It’s original clutch, and I have no problems with it at all. And I’m wondering your take on that. Did I do the right thing? It seems like I did.
SPEAKER 06 :
Is that a DSG transmission, or do you know? In other words, do you shift it?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, it’s a manual.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, so it is a true manual. I would still be changing the fluid in it, and as far as it being sealed, I can’t say that I’ve ever seen a sealed manual transmission. Typically, they have the ability to access fluid.
SPEAKER 09 :
It’s still got a drain plug and a bill plug. Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, cool. Well, I certainly would have done that along the way. I use full synthetic at 5,000, even though they recommend 10,000. I’ve been doing 5,000 along the way. That’s smart. It doesn’t burn oil. And 272,000 miles plus is still going strong.
SPEAKER 06 :
Nice. Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Nothing wrong with that. I appreciate the advice. I bought a newer Jetta, a GLI, and I’m going to change the oil on that every 5,000 miles. as well i know it’s more expensive and they say 10 but it seemed to work well last time around right yeah it’s it’s cheap insurance pretty much you know the way keeping that sooner so your recommendation is to change it even after uh 272 000 miles was never changing it before huh
SPEAKER 06 :
This is different than an automatic. You’re not going to hurt anything by doing so at all. Right, exactly.
SPEAKER 08 :
A lot of times, like, the drain plugs have a magnet on them. They’ll just, you know, they’ll collect the little fine particles and cleaning that magnet and, yeah, and running it.
SPEAKER 06 :
And as you know, Mac, with… With any fluid, I don’t care what it’s in, especially in a manual transmission where there’s no filtration. Granted, they don’t get as hot as an automatic, so they don’t necessarily need a cooler, but that fluid is still getting hot, getting cold, getting hot, getting cold, all of that. Reality is it’s breaking down just like anything else, and yes, I would change it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, I think I’ll look into that. YouTube’s my friend for stuff like that.
SPEAKER 08 :
There you go. Good stuff. And two, when you do that, when you pull the drain plug and it’s draining, you might just get an extra half quart or something like that, drain it all out, and then on the fill, add another half a quart and just kind of flush some of that other stuff out also before you start refilling it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yep, got it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, thanks for the advice, Chris.
SPEAKER 06 :
You’re very welcome. No, Mac, thank you very much. And, yeah, just before we go to break. We’ll explain this. We do it a lot, but we have to because there is still a lot of education in this area because you’re going to hear different things from the typical OEM dealer sides of things to us in the aftermarket. And if you don’t believe some of what I’m saying, just go to any of the social media platforms, YouTube, TikTok, Facebook, you name it. and start doing some research on what we’re talking about in any of the, especially independents, because frankly, there’s, I’ll be careful how I say this because I want to step on toes, but there’s not as many dealer techs rebuilding transmissions as there once was. Most dealer techs are taking a unit out, putting a unit in, taking a unit out, putting a unit in. Very few are going through the transmission front to back. And I know that because look at some of the things I’m telling you to go check, and you’ll see that even some of the guys that used to be in the dealer world have left for all sorts of reasons, are now out in the appendant world doing their own thing, and they are guys that will do a complete rebuild of even the late 10-speed transmissions that are in Ford and Chevys and so on. So reality is you’re going to hear things from the OEM dealer saying, sealed unit, never mess with it, non-serviceable, blah, blah, blah. You can go listen to these guys that actually work on them and do the rebuilds of, and they will tell you nothing could be farther from the truth, that the best thing you can do to keep these things running all of the life of the vehicle is do normal services like we talk about here on a regular, consistent basis.
SPEAKER 09 :
There’s no fluid out there that doesn’t break down, and there’s no fluid without add packages, and those additives fall out. They don’t last forever. They don’t stay bonded.
SPEAKER 06 :
Just like your engine oil. It’s no different.
SPEAKER 09 :
It’s going to break down, and there’s contamination that gets added to them no matter where this fluid is.
SPEAKER 06 :
Mark, you are a thousand percent correct.
SPEAKER 08 :
They all need change. You are exactly right. And a manual gearbox, you know, every 50K.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it gets less damage and abuse than most, but it still breaks down. Ad packages fall out. You get metal and aluminum and steel shavings in there.
SPEAKER 06 :
It’s funny that the same dealers that will tell you that you don’t have to do anything on the transmission will still tell you that at 35,000 or 40,000 miles, the diffs need serviced. Right, and they sell those all the time. It’s ironic that they’ll sell you one but not the other. And again, a lot of this is coming from the OEM themselves, from Chevy or Ford or whoever, Toyota, I can go down the list. And they’re going to tell the dealers not to push said services. Now, there are some good dealers out there that understand everything we’re talking about, and they will go ahead and recommend some of these things to you. But I will tell you that the majority of… will not because it goes into the total cost of ownership figures that everybody uses to compete with one another, and that’s why they’re not telling you. All right, we’ve got lines open, 303-477-5600. We’ll be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 06 :
All right, got an email in. And Sam, if you’re listening, you can tell me in an email whether you’re hearing this or not. But this is a great question. So I figure this is something that we can answer collectively together anyway. So I appreciate you emailing this in. So Sam’s older. He’s got some lower back issues and so on. And he needs to get out of the car that he’s in now, which is a… vw passat and he’s wanting to go to something with his back where it’s more of a slide in not climbing in you know not getting down in and then climbing back out and or climbing up and getting in basically something that you could slide in and out of which a lot of your and he’s asking what’s the best used you know kind of that mid crossover suv and that would be a perfect vehicle by the way for somebody that’s that has that kind of a condition where you’re just kind of sliding in the vehicle and sliding out. Most of what I happen to drive, being trucks, you’re climbing in, you’re climbing out, you’re climbing. Exactly. And even some of the high-performance cars, now you’re climbing down and climbing out and you’re climbing down. So I understand exactly what you’re talking about, Sam, and getting into one of those vehicles to where you’re literally just kind of going in and back out. So his question is, what reviews can I trust? and then what’s the best crossover vehicle to buy that’s around 15 grand. Now, those are two separate questions because when it comes to what reviews can you trust, honestly, and we say it even in our reviews all the time, we’re driving and testing brand new vehicles. Do we know what the vehicle’s going to be like five years from now and what its longevity is going to be like and so on? No, we have no way of knowing that. It’s a new vehicle. Now, some of them are kind of long in the tooth, and you can get an idea of how well that particular vehicle make and model’s been performing and get a pretty good idea of how long this one’s going to last moving forward based on that. You get a new model that just all of a sudden comes out, which a lot of these that we test drive because they do that on purpose. They want the press to be highlighting a new thing they’ve come out with. So in those particular cases, we have no idea what the longevity is like. And by the way, nor does any other reviewer. I don’t care who they are. It could be car and driver. It could be some guy that’s famous on YouTube. It could be whoever. And, again, at the end of the day, do they know what the longevity of that’s going to be like? No, they do not. Now, if somebody’s doing a long-term test drive, you know, they’ve had it for – in some cases, they may get it from the manufacturer for a year or more, or they – They may buy the vehicle and do the testing on their own, and they get rid of it at the end, and some reviewers will do that. We’ve done that even ourselves here on Drive Radio. That’s a little different scenario, but even then, you’re driving it a year. You may get 15,000 to 25,000 miles on it. Even that doesn’t tell you what’s it going to be like at 100.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right, exactly.
SPEAKER 06 :
Even long-term reviews aren’t super accurate when it comes to that.
SPEAKER 08 :
especially on new power plants, things like that, new transmissions, new engine configurations, drive trains, stuff like that. Right, exactly. If you’re looking at something that’s been out for a while and has a track record, you can at least get an idea of that power train.
SPEAKER 09 :
I think that track record has the best value for anything from car parts to cars themselves.
SPEAKER 06 :
By the way, the two guys that are here, along with the other shops we have that sponsor this show, That’s your resource for what type of vehicles have the best longevity. You can just pick up the phone and call them. Now, all that being said, that’s one part of the conversation. So that’s the review side. So reality is you’ve got to do everything we just talked about because otherwise there’s really no way of knowing. Now, this is a separate conversation because I can’t put what’s the best crossover for $15,000 in with the review conversation because they’re not one and the same. Because when it comes to a $15,000 vehicle, I’ll be straight up honest. You could have a car that has some of the best reviews out there and has done the best with consumer reports and on and on and on we go. But if it’s been beat and not well cared for, it’s no better than the worst car on their list that’s been very well cared for. So that part of it, the $15,000 part, comes down to who owned the vehicle prior, how well has it been cared for, what kind of condition is it in now. That’s a larger factor than who made it. And I’ll say that all day long. Yes, there’s known problems with certain cars, and I get that, but… Even with that, if the right person owned it and did everything necessary and now have finally traded it off or done whatever and it’s gone into the used market, I’ll take a… lesser known quality car that’s been maintained and taken care of well than I will a highly known reliable car that hasn’t been taken care of and maintained well.
SPEAKER 08 :
I would much rather have a car with 100,000 miles on it that’s been well maintained than a car with 30,000 miles that hadn’t had anything done to it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely. And I’ve heard a lot lately about, I want a car that’s one owner. I’m like, who cares if it’s one owner? Did he take care of it?
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
Because if he’s beat it, he doesn’t take care of the services, change the fluids. Exactly. I don’t care if it’s five owners if they’ve taken care of it and done the work that needs done. And that’s a bigger factor. Exactly.
SPEAKER 08 :
And where did it come from? Where has it had its life?
SPEAKER 09 :
East Coast, Salt, Midwest.
SPEAKER 06 :
Don’t want it. So when it comes to Sam, your question, where do I find the best opinion on the best used crossover? There is none. Yeah. Because everything we just mentioned comes into play because none of those people know what I just said. Now, you’re going to look at Consumer Reports and find all sorts of data on, you know, buy a RAV4. It’s got the best, you know, not only resale, but track record and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, again. Everything I just said still comes into play, especially at $15,000. Because by then, you’ve probably made it through a few owners. Now, you might find a one-owner $15,000 car. And by the way, Ridgeline Auto Brokers up in Boulder and Fort Collins, like we’ve been saying, can help you with this particular – this is the car that they actually specialize in. But what I will tell you is you need to find that car first at that price. Then you start doing the research we’ve just mentioned. And then last but not least, in your case, especially, Sam, with the medical condition sides of things, go get in the car.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Because that will have as much of an effect on everything as anything else. You have to feel comfortable in the car, and it doesn’t matter what some reviewer anywhere said about the car.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, what are you able to get in and out of comfortably? And, you know, yeah, when we went through that with my mother, you know, it was one of those things. My daughter has a Ford Escape, and she could get in and out of that all day, every day. My car, not so much. Our trucks, not at all. And so, yeah, same thing.
SPEAKER 06 :
Great example. So for you, Sam, especially, and again, please email me and let me know you’ve heard this, but really for you, this comes down to more of what fits you Not what some magazine, website, reviewer, any of those guys have said. That is irrelevant. This comes down to you, the car, the price, how well it’s been maintained, going back to the whole pre-purchase sides of things we talked about a little bit ago. All of that is a much larger factor than anything else buying a $15,000 used car.
SPEAKER 08 :
find the make and model that fits you first.
SPEAKER 09 :
But if you can go to a used car lot and try two or three, you’re going to know what you like better and what’s easier.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely. What’s best for you. Now, all that being said, remember that even once you find a make and model that you like and now you’re going to kind of go down that path of finding the used car in that price range that fits you, just remember also, and we’ve talked about this in the last hour with the trim packages, each one of those might be a little different. One with leather might feel a little different to you than one with cloth and, and, and. So that’s another thing where make sure you’re always going to be comparing, you know, apples to apples because even in the same make and model of car, depending upon how they’ve trimmed it out, may have a factor upon you and, and your, you know, your back condition and so on. And what I mean by that is some may have manual seats, same car. Some may have a manual seat. Some may have a power seat with lumbar. I mean, You’ll find different things on different vehicles. That’s where you’ve got to go and find the car that fits you best, given your condition. Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
And different trim packages to road noise, things along those lines, you know, things you don’t even think about and you wouldn’t even necessarily notice unless you’re actually listening for it. So that’s. Yep.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, well, we were talking during the in the first hour about tundras with bench seats. And where do you find one? And so we had a caller that Jan called in and asked all of that. What Ken just said on that is absolutely right as well. You take one of the bottom of the barrel type vehicles and go to the top of the line and how it even sounds and feels inside. They’re completely different because, yes, there is more. road noise protection and so on in the high-end vehicle than there is in their bottom line vehicle. Padding in the door panels, on and on we go. I mean, there’s a lot of different factors that they go through to make that car more quiet. And, yes, the upper-end models will typically be more quiet than the lower-end models. Now, some of that goes from, you know, make to make to make. And some European cars, for example, will be super noisy going down the road, and you can go hop in a Chevrolet or a Ford and be half as noisy. Yeah. You have to go drive these cars. We even talk about it when we do the new car reviews. My son Richard says it all the time. You really have to go get in this car for yourself, see how it feels and fits you, determine if it works for you, your family, your lifestyle, and so on. And I’ve said this over and over again. A 10-minute test drive doesn’t tell you that. So if you’ve got the ability to rent a car for a day or two of the make and model that you’d like to buy, go do that. Because a driver on the block in a new car with a sales guy breathing down your neck is not going to tell you all of the things that I just said and how well you actually fit into that car. It goes back to our first hour conversation of don’t buy on emotion, buy on facts.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right, exactly. And like you said, so leather seats, whatever, the cloth seats are harder to get in and out of because you don’t slide as easily. Because you can’t slide.
SPEAKER 06 :
Perfect example.
SPEAKER 08 :
My mom used a grocery bag, and she could actually slide in on the cloth seats.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, just, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Little things.
SPEAKER 09 :
But is the seat heater important to you or not?
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, exactly. And that has a lot to do with the trim pack, yeah. All right, we’ll talk more about that. Questions, by the way, you can text me, email me like Sam just did, or call in directly, 303-477-5600. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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