Join Bill and chartered financial analyst Barry Kite as they delve into the current economic environment influenced by Biden’s policy changes and the unexpected market closures. While energy and nuclear stocks experience remarkable growth, Bill provides a detailed analysis of the tech sector, including the promising advancements in quantum computing and the potential future implications. The episode wraps up with insightful commentary on emerging opportunities within autonomous vehicle technologies. Stay informed and ahead with insights from seasoned market experts.
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He’s been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He’s the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He’s president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And welcome to the Monday. It is the Monday, January 6th live edition of the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. I’m here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst, and we have a pretty good start. To the markets, the gates opened at 9.30 a.m., and wow, they came rushing out of there, and they’re still doing pretty well here. The Dow is up 286. It’s still a few thousand points below its all-time. The Dow is at 43,018, and the NASDAQ is up 284 right now. That works out to 1.4%. Puts the NASDAQ at 19,903, just shouting distance away from that 20,000 level that it set last year. We have the S&P is up 64 points, 1.1%. The Russell 2000 is up three-quarters of a percent. The bond market a little bit, it’s up a couple basis points. We’re at 4.61%, so much for the Fed rate cuts. The market sets interest rates, not the Fed. And the market’s basically saying that the Fed was wrong. We’re right. Here’s where they belong, 4.61. And crypto doing well today. The cryptocurrency, it’s nearing 100,000 once again. Yeah, I got 101,000 here on the screen. So welcome to today’s Best Stocks Now show. with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. I’m here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. It sounds like the creeping crud, the cold ice blast, Arctic blast, is steadily heading its way easterly. It’s not here yet. We’re at like 55 degrees, but our producer in Dallas says it’s in the 20s today. And it didn’t help that a semi caught on fire. And the fire department put it out with water, but caused it created a big ice skating rink right in the middle of the busiest freeway in Dallas. It’s coming your way. So, you know, bundle up. It’s going to be a cold one. And in the meanwhile, the market has started off on a very warm note. You know, we had a big blast in the market higher on Friday before we went home for the weekend. In fact, we had a very good close after three, really four snotty days in a row of the market. You just can’t predict it these days. I will say this. We’re either getting big up moves or we’re getting big down moves in the market, and that has caused the VIX index, the volatility index, to rise. Let’s just hope we don’t get too many big down moves this week. Thursday’s going to be an off day, very rare. In the market, the market will be closed as we mourn the loss of Jimmy Carter. Very unusual for the market to be closed.
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Yeah, interesting enough, the bond market’s going to be open for a little bit during that day.
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Well, I’ve got to have liquidity.
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Some commerce, yeah, exactly. Some commerce has to occur.
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Right. The Dow was up 340 on Friday before, you know, at the end of the day. And the NASDAQ was up also 340 points. But, of course, a 340-point move in the NASDAQ is about double the percentage move of a 340-point move in the Dow. Because you have a bigger denominator there in the Dow than you do in the NASDAQ. And we had the longest losing streak prior to that. Very unusual since April of last year or so. You never know what you’re going to get when you wake up in the morning. I did see that the futures, they were just kind of, you know, not doing much last night. And then this morning I saw they were pretty buoyant. I’m going to guess… The news that I saw that probably is driving this occurred at 12.53 a.m. in China. China services sector growth accelerates to a seven-month high in December amid new business inflows. So, okay, we talk about catalysts in the market. And we talk about areas of the world that affect the market more than others. And I would say China, of all the countries out there, I’m saying China probably has the biggest impact. Europe’s probably number two as far as their economic reports that come in and how they impact our markets. China obviously a very important economy out there and a lot of companies depending on China for the parts that they need, the flow of goods that they need, the chain, the supply chain. And it’s a big trading partner and everything. And I also saw some news. I don’t know where it was said, but Trump is maybe looking to moderate his stance on tariffs a little bit. And I think you take those two things together. And that’s why you’re having this big pop in the market here today. What, we’re two weeks out? I think today they certify the results of the election, and of course it was four years ago today, January 6th, that there was a little bit of upheaval there in that certification. Today it won’t be… It won’t be vice president. Who was Trump’s vice president?
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Easy come, easy go.
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Mike Pence. It won’t be Pence doing it. It will be Kamala Harris certifying her loss. And let’s see if there’s any kind of drama or anything like that. We’re not expecting any.
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Well, and two years ago today, too, you penned the NASDAQ article in terms of the NASDAQ bottom. That was two years ago today, I believe.
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Well, let’s hope today’s not the NASDAQ top. We don’t know. We won’t know until a year from now or two years from now. But as always, we remain vigilant. I have heard a lot of, I listen to other people out there that are big market commentators. I was listening to Daniel, let’s see, Ives. Is it Dan Ives this morning? Yeah, Dan Ives, yeah. And, you know, he feels about the same way I do as far as the macros of the market. He says it should be concerning, you know, that the P.E. of the S&P is up there right now around 25 or 26.
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He’s a big growth guy, too, which is him saying, him even talking about valuations is kind of, you know, is a bit of a warning sign.
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Now, I wouldn’t say that he’s not bearish this year, but he does see the potential for a 20% drop in the market. And guess what his number one pick for 2025 was? Cash was number one. And then he had his number two pick was Cisco. which I don’t understand at all, but he’s obviously on his back feet there a little bit defensive going into this year, as I am also because of the valuations of the market and because of a lot of changes coming this year. We don’t know how it’s going to go. The tariffs, obviously, in two weeks we have a new administration coming in. It’s going to be like night and day versus the last administration. You’re going to have the mass deportations. Will this be upheaval? I don’t know. I think you have to step a little carefully here this year and be very vigilant as always, but a little more vigilant than normal. German inflation got a little bit of a surprise this morning. 2.6, it actually went up, going the wrong direction. I think it’s their energy issues over there.
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Well, and didn’t believe over the weekend, I think the Ukraine, the pipeline that we were talking about last week, that Europe’s been still getting some gas from. I think that agreement is gone. So they’ve got at least at the moment a supply issue. And for them, I mean, you’ve got inflation ticking up and GDP ticking down. Those going in opposite directions are never a good sign.
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No, no. And in the meantime, U.S. Steel is going to sue both of them. Nippon Steel are filing lawsuits after Biden blocked the merger deal. I don’t think they have a leg to stand on. You know, I mean, I think if it comes to something that we deem as important to America or to national security, it’s always that that’s the no pun intended.
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But that’s always the trump card is national security and basically would do whatever we want.
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And, of course, you know, Biden’s still got two more weeks to go. He’s been pretty busy when we come back.
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He’s been busier in the last two months than he’s been in the entire term.
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He announced some closures and some pretty big bodies of water today for drilling. And, you know, with just two weeks to go, he’s… He’s been very active and busy, and then we’ve got a lot to talk about nuclear. Boy, those stocks have been on fire once again. Probably the best performing stocks in the first week of the year. We’ll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today’s Best Docs Now show. Well, the Biden ban on drilling is just a few bodies of water. It bans drilling in the Atlantic and the Pacific.
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Okay.
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What else do we got left? Well, the Gulf of Mexico. Right. and the Mississippi River.
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I guess the Arctic Ocean.
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Yeah, there’s still some, and it doesn’t affect existing permits, but it will indefinitely ban offshore oil and gas development. in more than 625 million acres of coastal waters. You know, this is two weeks, obviously, before Trump will be inaugurated. The White House said Biden will use his authority under the 70-year-old Outer Continental Shelves Lands Act. to protect all federal waters off the Atlantic and Pacific Ocean. Now, I read that Trump could issue an order revoking it. He tried that with Obama’s ban up in the Bering Sea in Alaska. And the appeals court turned it down. So it would be very difficult for Trump to overturn this ban in this massive amount of waters. It also includes some of the Gulf of Mexico also. Okay, utilities. Utilities have new life. That sector was up 17.8% last year compared to a 10% decline in 2023. What made the difference? Well, you look at your top movers in 2024. Vistra, up 258%. We own Vistra. We’ve done very well with Vistra. Vistra is a Texas utility, but it’s a broker company. of energy, and it has a lot of exposure to nuclear, which is the new kid on the block. It was the old kid on the block, but now it’s the new kid on the block again.
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Yeah, and you look at the stock, it has a 55 PE multiple for utility, and that’s because of future ability to grow their power expansion.
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And how smart was the breakup of GE into three segments, including GE Vernova? which is the power segment, that stock up 151%. So Larry Culp has led a comeback in GE like one of the great comebacks of all time. And splitting off GE, which has a lot of nuclear exposure, that stock up 151% last year. And then, of course, Three Mile Island, which at one time was a dirty word in more ways than one. Constellation Energy up 91.4% last year. And then the fourth and fifth would be NRG, which is N-R-G, up 75%. And then Entergy up 49.9%. So, you know, I see that, personally, I see that trend continuing in 2025. And look at how we started the week. If the first week of January is supposedly a barometer, For the rest of the year, the best performing stocks last week, several of them were these exact stocks, Vistra and Constellation signed a big deal with the U.S. government. And let’s not forget, let’s go down a step. Now whether or not this ever becomes reality, the smaller nuclear reactors, the portable nuclear reactors, I think it definitely is going to become a reality. and uh… we saw a good movement last week in oklo we saw a good movement in SMR which stands for small modular reactors we saw good action in Ah, nanonuclear and a few others that are in that nuclear sector.
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In a broad-based AI kind of rally, I mean, you had everything from the power folks to, you know, NVIDIA, I think, is up, you know, 7% over the last few days, if you include today’s movement. You know, you have… Anything to do with data centers, you had some of the quantum computing stocks kind of perked back up on Friday. So if that’s a theme, it was a pretty broad-based theme across that whole sector.
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Yes, and, you know, like, okay, so last week, I mean, some of the top oil performers from last year, the top oil performer was Texas Pacific Land, TPL. which we own not only in the emerging growth portfolio but in the trade, the incubator portfolio. It was up 107% last year. This is one of the great performing stocks of the decade, DPL. Targa Resources was also a big winner last year, up 106. The oil sector was not a big winner, however. Kinder Morgan was up 54. Williams was up 52. And Oniok was up 41. So the pipeline stocks did well. And then like Texas Pacific Land, which is a hybrid, which buys land with the mineral rights. But overall, I mean, you look at the big energy producers. Devon was down 29% last year. Schlumberger was down 26.2%. Halliburton was down 25%. And the one that Warren Buffett was buying the most of, of any of the stocks in his portfolio, Occidental, was down 17.8% last year. with the S&P being up 23% last year. Okay, retail. Let’s see, we’ve got Bank of America calling Amazon, Chewy, and RH, which is Restoration Hardware. And I did see they are working on their building downtown on Bay Street in beautiful downtown Charleston. They’re going to put in a Restoration Hardware, which I think kind of fits our whole vibe that we’ve got going on here in Charleston.
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My wife’s been having me look at restoration hardware online, and she’s like, the closest one’s in Asheville. And I’m like, I’m not driving to Asheville in hopes of a coffee table. So hopefully, yeah, they need to build. They can’t build that thing fast enough.
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Yeah, they deliver. And the restaurant’s going to be up there on top, too, which I think will be a nice little addition. I went to the restoration hardware restaurant in Minnesota. I couldn’t believe how nice it was. Very good. Okay, I believe in Amazon. I don’t know about Chewy myself, online dog biscuits, but, you know, hey, it’s been a good… The guy who thought it up and brought it to fruition, it’s become a big company. Well, you know, I got a taste of the New York City congestion when I was there two weeks ago. I mean, it took longer to get from the airport to Manhattan than it did to get from Charleston to the airport. in new york to la guardia but they’re going to charge this congestion toll nine bucks a day even if you live there and i saw you know this lady was pulled over she said i live there why do i got to pay nine bucks to drive to my home well you know what they if they’re gonna think of something it’s either going to be thought up in new york or in california one of the two fubo Fubo, a big winner today. They had some kind of a legal spiff, and they decided to merge with somebody. With Disney. With Disney.
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And Hulu Plus, I believe.
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That’s a good one to merge with. Fubo is the winner of the day, up 157%. I wonder, Kathy Wood, she was a big… Never mind it was $129 at one time, and now it’s $3.59. We’ll be right back. Now, back to the second half of the show.
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The instigator. Because there’s something in the air.
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And welcome back here to the second half of today’s Best Docs Now show. Well, the market kind of surging right now. We’re surging. We’re having a very good day. Actually, the market’s about the same as when we opened the show. But I don’t know. There’s a couple of stuff I haven’t identified yet. We have a few that have helped us a lot since the open of the market here today. My next subject… is the one I covered in the newsletter on Saturday. If you’re not getting the newsletter, look, I mean, as we begin each year, I’m going to meet with my vice president today. We’re going to certify the election of Bill Gunderson as the service CEO for another year, right? We’ll see if I get the vote. Do I have the votes? I don’t know. You have my vote. Okay, all right. But one of my goals is always to… Be ahead of the rest of the crowd. No question about it. I want to be the first, you know, out there way before Dan Niles finds it, way before Morgan Stanley finds it. That’s not too hard to do. But to be out there, you know, on the cutting edge of things that are breaking and, you know, stay on top of the news and whatnot. Okay, so quantum computing obviously sprang out of nowhere last year.
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Well, when talking about Morgan Stanley, I think they just came out with a story today where they started coverage on Palantir as an underweight. I was like, where have you been?
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Now that it’s tripled, okay, and it did affect, that was our one loser, well, one of our losers to open the day. But anyways, I went over that quantum sector over the weekend, and, you know, it’s difficult to grasp. Maybe it’s beyond the physics in my brain. I mean, Wikipedia can’t even grasp it, really. A quantum computer is a computer that exploits quantum mechanical phenomena. On small scales, physical matter exhibits properties of both particles and waves, and quantum computing leverages this behavior using specialized hardware. So I put a picture of the hardware, just a little snapshot. It’s pretty neat looking. I’d hate to assemble that thing. You know, I have a hard enough time with my Lionel O-gauge railroad wiring things. Sometimes I light up when we try doing that.
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I’ve been switching some sound stuff around. You talk about that stuff.
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Now you get into this quantum stuff. Classic physics cannot explain the operation of these quantum devices. Well, neither can I, so I don’t feel so bad. And a scalable quantum computer could perform some calculations exponentially faster than any modern classical computer. theoretically a large-scale quantum computer could break some widely used encryption schemes and aid physicists in performing physical simulations. Now here’s the big caveat. This is in Wikipedia. It says, however, the current state of the art is largely experimental and impractical.
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When you said theoretical in that reading at one point, I’m like, okay, theory.
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And there are several obstacles to useful applications. All right. But that hasn’t stopped investors from piling in. We now have a quantum ETF, which I mentioned in the article. And I see it’s got a very good chart, by the way. That might be a good way to play this whole sector. because you’re getting exposure to about, you know, I’ve identified 10 actually, and I’m going to add one today. I’m going to talk about one I found this morning that has got quantum in its name, and I’ve never heard of it before, and it’s more in the biotech sector of all things. So anyways, I’m tracking nine stocks and one ETF. ARQQ. We’ve got Core, which has been around for a long time, coherent semiconductors. You have IonQ. You have Marvell, which is a very well-known, you know, mature company. You’ve got the smaller ones, QBTS, QMCO. You’ve got the ETF, which is the symbol. They got the symbol, quantum, QTU. QTUM. Then you’ve got RadNet, Rigetti, and QUBT. They’re behaving well today. Strap on your seatbelt. This is something that we’re going to follow. And I would suggest, I think we’re getting to the point where there’s a few of them that are investable. For sure, I mean, Marvell and Coherent and RadNet are. And maybe Rigetti and maybe a couple others are investable. But down in the emerging growth portfolio, right, these are emerging. Right now they’re in the incubator portfolio, but they could cross the line here. into some investments. Our emerging growth portfolio did very well last year. We nailed some big ones. And I think maybe there could be some here in this quantum. Now, the new one that I found today, okay, and it just came out in the news feed that I go over every single day. Let me see where that article is. I’ve got two newsletters open right now. There it is, QuantumSci.com. Symbol QSI. Okay, so this becomes the 11th member of the quantum sector that I’m tracking. I did add it to the database today. QuantumSci has entered into a securities purchase agreement with certain institutional investors for the purchase and sale of 15 million shares of common stock at $3.20 per share, blah, blah, blah. Now you go to QSI in Market Smith. I think they changed it to Market Surge. It used to be the daily graphs from Investors Daily. And the stock is pretty lively. It was down around a buck. All of a sudden it’s four bucks. It’s traded 35 million shares today. They develop access to the proteome with single molecule analysis and democratizing to researchers and clinicians. Okay, so if you go to their website, they are powering the proteomic era, which is groundbreaking power of single molecule proteomics with first to market next generation protein sequencer to every lab everywhere. So who knows?
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To every lab everywhere. It pretty much got all the bases covered right there.
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Yes. And you can go to their website. This little machine looks pretty cool. I think it could run my Lionel train. It looks pretty capable of a lot. But I look at the chart. And it’s like, okay, this thing is just waking up. So who knows, maybe it’ll show up in the incubator portfolio, but it is now in the database, and it will now be compared against all the other stocks in the database.
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What’s that symbol again, Bill?
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QSI. QSI. Yep, and it is headquartered in… brantford connecticut so anyways we’ll keep our eye on that if you want a stock to go up this is rule number 10b uh on gunderson’s rule 10 sell it sell the stock and it will go up the next three days in a row for sure which is which is what uber has done i sold it the last day of 2024 To lock in some, we needed some capital.
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A little tax loss harvesting, yeah.
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Well, I probably, you know what, sometimes I think it’s, I think taking taxes into account with, you know, like, okay, I’ve seen people that didn’t want to take the capital gain. Well, guess what? Before long, they lost the capital gain because the stock went down. Sometimes I think using taxes as far as, you know, trading strategies is not a good idea. Uber has now gone up. Well, it’s up 10% since I sold it. It’s one of the best performers here today. They are announcing an accelerated share repurchase agreement. I’m a big believer in Uber. I don’t think we’ve seen, you know, I think RoboTaxi is out there on the horizon for Uber. Palantir initiated. Okay, so initiated means they’re picking up coverage. Some guy over at Morgan Stanley got a call or an email, hey Charlie, we’re going to add a stock to your list for you to cover, or this team maybe. And they did their research, they did their work, and they came out with an underrate weighting. Never mind they missed the entire run. Palantir was one of the biggest winners in the market last year. Morgan Stanley picks up coverage, and they put out a… Their price target is like… 60 60 per share it’s trading at 80 right now i don’t know are they behind the curve i don’t know but you know what i would say that’s why we’re surging because palantir was down pretty hard on that news and now it’s almost even as they say does anybody listen to morgan stanley you know and buyers are coming into the stock right now All right, we’ll be right back. How about a subscription to DraftKings? All you can bet for what, $50 a month? I don’t know. There’s a lot of crazy ideas out there and stocks to talk about. We’ll be right back.
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You’ve got to go where you want to go. Do what you want to do with whoever you are.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today’s Best Docs Now show. Yeah, DraftKings is coming up with a subscription. You get better odds. $20 a month, they’ll give you better odds, bigger payouts. Pony, I want to mention Pony.
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Better odds. Isn’t that interesting? I mean, that’d be like if you went to the casino and the person next to you, right, gets paid out a little more on a blackjack than you do. It is strange.
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Okay. All right. Pony is one that I have my eye on, even though it’s a Chinese stock. It looks to be a big leader. I think probably China will be a big market for the autonomous vehicles and the robo-taxis, you know, getting in, getting a ride, no driver. Pony is expanding their service to Hong Kong. I imagine Hong Kong is a lot like Manhattan, New York City. So we’ll see how it works there. And then the last one I want to mention is Service Titan. That’s a software stock that recently came public. But you know what? It’s a sizable software company. nine point three billion dollars in market cap and uh… this thing’s a hundred dollars a share headquartered in glendale california that’s my birthplace glendale california at the glendale hospital there that’s still there uh… home to service titan which i have added to my app It hasn’t shown up in any of my A-plus momentum screens yet. And then this, the other one I would mention, and then we’re going to look underneath the surface of the market, this antimony. Not alimony, antimony and stibnite. This also has ramifications in EV batteries, big time.
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Yeah, and they’re trying to find something, or they’ve got some technology they’re working on that I think doesn’t use it, which would.
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keep us away reduce that impact of China keeping it away from us exactly and there’s two major players here and this is going on mostly in Idaho where they’re also trying to develop the portable nuclear reactor nano right Yep, this is Perpetua Resources, which I’ve mentioned before, breaking out to a new all-time high. And you can do a little bit of research on what antimony is used for and what it has the potential for. I can’t remember the name of the other stock that they were teaming up with. I’d have to go back and look in my notes. But this is Antimony. They got approved, U.S. approval for a Stibnite project, Stibnite Antimony and Gold project in Idaho. So there’s your Idaho stock of the day. Okay, now let’s take a look underneath the surface of the market. You got a pretty good move in the market. I’ll tell you the one that caught my eye was NVIDIA. What got into NVIDIA all of a sudden? I noticed towards the end of the week, I said, you know, this NVIDIA chart is really looking good again. And yes, look at it today. Now it’s hitting the upper end of that range. It’s been trading between $130 and $150. $152, call it, to be exact. And it’s at $152 right now. Now the question is, is it going to remain in that sideways range? Or is it going to break out here to a new all-time high? And it’s just like a dollar away from doing that. It’s up to $3.7 trillion in market cap once again. It is now pulled even with Apple, just like that. I mean, it was way behind, and now all of a sudden. And I think they’re looking ahead to his speech, Jensen Wang, at CES this week in Las Vegas. which will be all about electric vehicle. I mean, there will be a lot about robo-taxis. It will be a lot about robots, delivery devices, bringing you a Jersey Mike sandwich to your door. You know, maybe it will fly in with a drone, lower down a crane or whatever, and the robot will bring it. I don’t know. That’s where we’re headed, okay? And then, of course, getting in a car without a driver and all this kind of thing. My wife will say she feels like that when I’m driving. She feels like she’s getting into a car without a driver. I’m just kidding. But anyways. She gives me a hard time. I don’t know. I’ve never been in an accident in my entire life.
SPEAKER 04 :
Usually, if you’re on the road there, she’s got to drive while you’ve got the computer and the Wi-Fi rolling.
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If we’re on a long trip, I’ve got the charts going. I can get charts almost anywhere in America now. Let’s see. So anyways, NVIDIA, that’s an impressive-looking chart there. On the verge of a breakout. Okay. Other little ones that are impressive today. There they go again. Okay, look at Nano Nano NNE. That’s one we own in the incubator account. Maybe we should call it the reactor account. We bought some more last week.
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That desk drawer is glowing with as much nuclear as you can.
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Now, what I do is I start off with just a 2.5% overall position. So that would mean if you had a fully invested, let’s just say you’re working with $25,000. So that would be roughly a $625 position. I start off pretty small. I don’t want to have too much exposure to an incubator stock. Then if it starts to perform and the chart starts to look juicy like NNE does, I double that position to 5%. which we did last week, the nano. And that thing’s up 12.6% today. Wow. It’s not alone in the small nuclear space. You’ve also got Oklo, which is, oh my gosh, it’s been on fire. It’s up 11.6% today. And SMR is up 10.2%. And D-Wave Quantum is up 8.0%. So I can just tell you, obviously, it’s a risk on day. You know, Bitcoin is an indicator of that going above $100,000. These stocks are going to have some huge down days, and you’ll wish you’d have never met them, right? That’s just the way it goes in this space, in this out there on the frontier horizon type stocks.
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And hence your 2.5% entry point. Yes, exactly.
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Spread the risk around. What does venture capital do? They spread the risk around because they know. A lot of them will never come to fruition. All right. Well, we’re still on the four week trial of the of the live trading with live trading and incubator. It’s live trading and investing, by the way. You know, it’s also the stocks that I buy in the investment portfolios, which is 90% of what I do on a daily basis. And if you’d like to set up an appointment with us, if you’re not happy where you’re at, the guy just seems like, what are they doing over there for their fees? Give us a call at 855-611-BEST. 855-611-BEST. Go to GundersenCapital.com. to get a four-week trial. Have a great day, everybody.