In this intriguing episode, explore the enigmatic note left by Joe Biden for Donald Trump. How does such a gracious message align with previous rhetoric branding Trump as a fascist? We also examine Trump’s execution of power in his second term, challenging the norms with actions against alleged enemies and navigating the tumultuous waters of immigration policy—all while staying true to his campaign promises.
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He’s the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor Studios, here’s Mike Geller.
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Every day the show starts, the man says, he’s your happy conservative warrior. I don’t know how much happier I could get. If I was any happier, I’d have to just, I don’t know, go pop a champagne cork and just sit on a beach and count our lucky blessings. Count our lucky stars. My gosh. Trump sending troops to the border, firing thousands of Biden political appointees. The left is freaking out, of course. They’re melting down as they are wont to do. But you have to wonder if the American people are on to the big lie, and that is that he’s a fascist. He told Sean Hannity last night, look, I went through four years of hell. I spent millions and millions in legal fees. I won, but I did it the hard way. He paid a heavy price. Imagine what it must feel like to be called a fascistic dictator. Biden did it, right? I mean, we could pull out the tape of Biden’s, the hits of Biden calling him a dictator, an Adolf Hitler wannabe. So when Peter Doocy of Fox News said to Trump the other day at the Oval Office, have you found the letter yet? And Trump opens up the desk drawer and says, wow, there’s a letter from Biden. It’s a tradition, right? The outgoing president leaves a personal note to the incoming president. And they put it in that famous resolute desk. And it was, I mean, emblematic of the era we’re living in. It took the TV reporter to tell Trump, look, President Trump, look in your desk and you’ll find the note. Oh, there it is. Well, he revealed the contents of the letter that Joe Biden wrote to Donald Trump. Now, I mean, riddle me this, Batman. What do you say to a fascist? Right? Right? It’s a fair question. If you think the guy’s going to be a dictator and a monster and an Adolf Hitler, what do you put in a letter to him? Well, we know, thanks to Peter Doocy’s efforts and Trump’s willingness to share the contents of that letter with the American people. And incidentally, I think that’s unprecedented. Most presidents, I don’t believe, reveal what the predecessor writes to the new president. So that’s Trump. Trump doesn’t, he’s very, he’s utterly transparent. What you see is what you get with this guy. He says he’s going to close the border, he’s going to close the border. He says he’s going to send troops to the border, he’s going to send troops to the border. He goes down the list of all the promises he makes and all the promises he’ll keep. He says that the January Sixers were treated terribly and unfairly punished. The punishment didn’t fit the crime. I’m going to pardon him. He pardons him. I mean, on and on, the guy does what he says. And he gives interviews, and he sits down with hostile reporters, and he talks, and he talks. There’s no hidden agenda here. He’s the antithesis of the deep state. So, Trump being Trump, he revealed what Joe Biden wrote to him. Now, again, you remember and you keep in mind as I read this brief letter what they said about President Trump. So at the very least, you’d think, well, it’s going to be a very awkward note. Because if you’re writing a note to a dictator, if you’re leaving a letter behind for a fascist, You’ve got to be at least diplomatic, but you’ll be cold. It’ll be awkward. It’ll be perfunctory. It’ll be maybe formal, but it won’t be like it normally would be because this isn’t normal because it’s not normal that we’ve got Adolf Hitler at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Here’s the letter, and I quote, Dear President Trump, As I take leave of this sacred office, I wish you and your family all the best in the next four years. The American people and people around the world look to this house for steadiness in the inevitable storms of history. And my prayer is that in the coming years will be a time of prosperity, peace, and grace for our nation. That isn’t even grammatically correct. And my prayer is that in the coming years will be a time of prosperity, peace, and grace for our nation. A little awkward there, but okay. May God bless you and guide you as he has blessed and guided our beloved country since our founding. Is that what you say to a fascist? Is that what you write to a dictator? May God bless you, Adolf? May the Lord guide you, Benito Mussolini? I mean, do you realize how we were conned by all of them? They never thought Trump was a dictator. They never believed he was some awful, horrific dictator. evil guy. Truth to tell, Biden is probably like the rest of us. He probably likes the guy. I mean, you don’t write a letter like that. You just don’t. You’d say, good luck or, you know, I mean, I don’t even know what you’d say to a Hitler. I don’t know what you’d say. But you sure wouldn’t say that. You sure wouldn’t. Bless you and God bless you and may God keep you and guide you. Are you kidding me? And a lot of people are texting me on the MyPillow text line that say he didn’t write it. Well, I think he did. Just humor me for a minute as we try to… I want to just spend a couple of minutes on this. Humor me and let’s pretend… or stipulate that he wrote it, okay? He wrote the letter, all right? Let’s say Biden left him a letter that says, the American people look to this house for steadiness. May God bless you. I wish you and your family all the best. Let’s say Biden wrote that. That does confirm that he never believed that Trump is a bad guy. Doesn’t this confirm what we’ve said all along? that none of them believe that Trump is a bad guy? We’re in the Relief Factor studios. Welcome aboard. It’s Thursday, January 23rd, 2025. We have a couple of open lines for you. 800-655-MIKE is my number. 800-655-6453. One phone number does it all. You can text us on the MyPillow text line or call me. But I want to put your voice front and center. 800-655-6453. 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Thank you.
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Mike Gallagher.
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Lots of great text messages pouring in on the MyPillow text line and I love it so much. I always love the instant feedback you give me. It’s like our own personal focus group. I was listening to Chris Stegall this morning talk about the Harumph Society. He loves his Harumph Society, and I know everybody loves that too. And, you know, our little club are people who text the show regularly, thanks to MyPillow. I mean, they sponsor and support the text line. Please don’t ever text and drive, or text at a red light at least, or pull over. Standard text messaging rates can apply. Mike, Biden’s letter just proves that they only tried to win the election by lying in order to scare people into voting for the Democrats. They used the Hitler accusation as a tool, not believing it one bit. It’s true. It’s absolutely true. And I think he wrote it. I have a hunch he voted, Biden voted for Trump. Now, that may sound outrageous, but considering what they did to him, the coup that they committed against him, forcing him out of office. There are all these reports now about the icy relationship between Biden and Kamala. You think? I mean, she was his pick to be his vice presidential running mate because of her skin color. and her gender. That’s it. He promised, I’m going to have a black female as my vice presidential running mate. And instead of collectively vomiting at the idea that somebody would be selected simply based on the color of their skin and their gender, she wound up being the presidential candidate for a few months. Of course he hates her. And of course she hates him. If he had stepped down when they wanted him to, maybe they would have had a better chance of winning. I’ll bet Joe and Jill Biden voted for Donald Trump. That letter that he left for Trump in the desk is a letter from somebody who’s a supporter. That’s a letter from somebody who said, I’m MAGA. I’m voting for you. Scott’s in Kalamazoo, Michigan. Scott, welcome aboard. How you doing?
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Good. Good. I just wanted to add to the conversation that on the Laura Ingraham show last night, they talked about the letter, and it was, Written in cursive, and it was barely legible.
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That means he wrote it. That proves he wrote it, Scott. You know? And I think you’re right. Liberals don’t even know how to write in cursive. No, no. Well, nobody under the age of 70 knows how to write in cursive. Exactly. All right. I think you’re right. And he’s always… And whenever he sees Trump, he always smiles. Yep. Oh, I know. I still wonder what Barron said to him. Barron, although there’s another video angle I saw last night where Barron was actually kind of leaning towards Jill Biden when Barron leaned in to shake their hands at the inauguration, and Biden lost his smile. He was smiling at the kid, and then he stopped smiling. I’ll bet he said, hey, raiding my mother’s underwear drawer was a really bad idea, old man, wasn’t it? Bert’s in Largo, Florida. Hey, Bert. How are you doing today?
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Hi, Mike. Hi. I disagree with what you said about the letter. I think that the letter is an escape hatch.
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How so?
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An escape for who? Well, I think that Biden is trying to get Trump to not bring charges against him.
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Oh, to try to cozy up to him so he doesn’t wind up in jail.
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Yeah, peddling political influence, U.S. Code 8, Section 1324, and violation of other immigration laws. I mean, Biden’s got a list of things he did. People died because of what he did.
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Remember when he was asked, would you pardon yourself? We got a really bad connection here, Bert. I don’t know if you’re on a speaker or whatever. I don’t think you can hear me, and I can barely hear you. But remember when Biden was asked if he would pardon himself? Red State wrote about that today, how revealing that was. If Biden only pardons people who he thinks did something wrong, well, then clearly he thinks Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger and Betty Thompson and Anthony Fauci and all the rest of them did something wrong. If you’re only going to pardon… And Biden was asked, do we have that clip, Christian? Can you pull that? We played it yesterday or two days ago a lot. This stunned me. Are you going to pardon yourself? And Biden was shocked. He said, pardon myself? Why would I pardon myself? I don’t need to pardon myself for crying out loud. I didn’t do anything wrong. So, obviously, you think that all these folks you pardoned did something wrong. John’s in Phoenix. Hey, John.
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Yes, I think this is one of the few times that Biden actually wrote something and said something that came out of Biden because everything else that he says was all written in front of him and teleprompter and stuff like that.
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Sure, sure. And you do think it was actually him? Yes, yes, most definitely. All right, appreciate it very much. I’m really, I think I’m doing pretty good, Eric. What do you think, Tracy? Christian, I’m doing so good. We did a change in the way I do the show in the studio. And I’m, look, just like I might be one of the few left that writes in cursive. No, somebody just texted me, hey, Mike, I’m 47. I know how to write in cursive. But I’ve always had like a gazillion monitors in here. And the Salem News Channel folks said, Mike, you’ve got too many monitors. You’re cluttering up the desk. I’m on one monitor today. But I’m tabbing from screen to screen. Pray for me. But doggone it, I’m so brave. There’s no better time than right now to call my friends at PhD Weight Loss and Nutrition to start your journey to a healthier you. As I hear from you about how PhD Weight Loss and Nutrition has changed your life, I know that each one of us has had our own reasons for starting. I started my journey because I gained enough weight and was ready to make a change. I sat down with Dr. Ashley Lucas, and like they say, the rest was history. I lost 53 pounds, and I’ve kept it off. We all have different reasons for starting. Call 864-644-1900, 864-644-1900, or just go to MyPhDWeightLoss.com, MyPhDWeightLoss.com.
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He’s the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor Studios, here’s Mike Gellerin.
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They’re calling it President Trump’s revenge tour. He’s flexing his vast new powers to target what he describes as the enemies from within. And look at these headlines just a couple of days into his presidency, his second term. Justice Department directs prosecutors to probe local efforts to obstruct immigration enforcement. The Pentagon is sending 1,500 active duty troops to help secure the U.S.-Mexico border. Trump tells the feds to report any COVID or covert DEI work. Trump fires all government DEI staffers, ending affirmative action for federal contractors. Trump suggested to Sean Hannity last night on Fox News that we ought to eliminate FEMA because FEMA did a whole lot of people in North Carolina dirty. I hear every day I get an email or two or more from people in the Carolinas who tell me that America cannot believe the devastation today. as a result of the hurricane and the storms, and how FEMA hasn’t done anything to help. And Trump’s position is, look, we’ve got to beef up the states. We can help them with funding, but the states have to step up and help their citizens. We’ll help fund it, but you can’t rely on this army of people from FEMA who may or may not show up, depending on whether it’s a red state or a blue state. And back to the headline about Lake and Riley. The Lake and Riley Act has been passed. Boy, it’s a real fascistic kind of a thing. It gives our country the right to detain illegals charged with a crime. You’re here illegally. You get charged with a crime. ICE gets to get involved, and you can get detained and eventually deported, depending on the outcome of the case. Not really onerous. Doesn’t seem to me to be a bridge too far, that an illegal who’s charged with a crime, arrested and charged with a crime, has to face detainment and possible deportation. What lunatic thinks that’s a bad idea? Well, 156 of them. Because 156 Democrats on Capitol Hill voted against the Lake and Riley Act. And I’m just absolutely mystified by this. What in the world could anybody say against the Lake and Riley Act? How does any elected representative… voice opposition to legislation that would force illegals to be detained by ICE if they’re charged with a crime. I’m trying to follow their thinking. Look, I’m a pretty open-minded guy. I’m in a great mood today. We have so much winning going on. We’ve got so many good things happening. We’ve got this country is coming. I think this country is coming together. and certainly headed in a whole different direction. So let’s take a look into the mind, let’s peer into the thinking of a prominent American Democrat in Congress. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez took to the floor of the House yesterday, railing against the Lake and Riley Act. Of course, the act was named for the young woman from Georgia who was brutally killed by an illegal. So here’s AOC’s argument against what I believe, and I think you believe, is common sense legislation that allows America to detain illegals charged with a crime.
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I want the American people to know what is in this bill. Because in the guise and in the wake of tragedy, we are seeing a fundamental erosion of our civil rights in this bill. If a person is so much as accused of a crime, if someone wants to point a finger and accuse someone of shoplifting, they will be rounded up and put into a private detention camp and sent out for deportation without a day in court. So when a private prison camp opens in your town and they say, we didn’t know this was going to happen, know that they did and they voted for it.
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I don’t even know how to respond to that kind of idiocy. Private prison camps. Now, you know what I heard when she said that? The funniest movie ever made, in my opinion, in my humble estimation. There’s a couple of classics. Christmas Vacation, one of my favorite funny movies. But the absolute fall out of your chair, roll around on the floor, laughing out loud movie is Bridesmaids. Ever seen Bridesmaids? Kirsten Wiig. It’s got some funny Melissa McCarthy. And it is hysterical. It’s a little dirty. I think it’s problem. Sure, it’s rated R. But there are some scenes. It’s like the movie is a series of one-act plays. There’s the scene in the bridal shop. There’s the scene, I mean, now if you rent the movie or watch it, the very first scene is very over the top, sort of a funny sexual situation with Kristen Wiig, who I think is one of the classic comic actors of our time. Anyway, there’s a scene where she hates to fly and she’s afraid to fly. And she takes pills and then her seatmate gives her some vodka or something to wash it down with and she gets all high on the flight. And she’s like roaming up and down the plane, drunk. And she’s in coach, and her friends are up in first class, and she keeps trying to sneak into first class. And the flight attendant keeps kicking her out of first class. And she says to the flight attendant, what are you doing to me? It’s civil rights. It’s civil rights. That’s what I hear from AOC. It’s civil rights. We can’t detain illegals. who’ve been charged with crimes, it’s civil rights. That’s all I hear from AOC. She’s as dumb as the character in the movie, who’s actually smarter. I would vote for the character in that movie, Bridesmaids, over AOC any day of the week. She’s warm and she’s funny and she’s got the bake shop that went out of business, but she’s a loyal friend and she’s going through rough times, but she’s at her core a good person. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is none of that. Imagine arguing against a bill that would expect that if you’re illegal, you’re not supposed to be here in the first place, and you’re charged with a crime, whatever it is. Hey, I’ll go along with you, AOC. Shoplifting. You’re going in and you’re ripping off Walgreens and you get arrested for it? You get detained and deported. That’s normal. You know, that’s a normal reaction. How do you even come to grips with the idiot? Can we talk about the 156 Democrats who voted against the Lake and Riley Act? Is there anybody within the sound of my voice that thinks AOC has a point? Welcome aboard. It is Thursday. We are ready to roll in the Relief Factor studios. We’re streaming again today up on X. And I know there was a little bit of an iPhone glitch around the country yesterday, but maybe that’s all been worked out. So you can… Engage in the show from the Salem News Channel via X today. Just follow us at Gallagher Show. Don’t forget to follow. You’ve got to follow us. That’s all we ask. 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The Mike Gallagher Show. Deported all immigrants who are here illegally, 55% of the New York Times. Marquette, 64%. CBS News, 57%. ABC News with a slightly different question, 56%. A majority of Americans, in fact, when they’re asked this blunt question, which I believe gets at the underlying feelings, do, in fact, want to deport all immigrants who are here illegally. There’s no arguing with these different numbers because they’re all essentially the same across four different pollsters.
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In the ReliefFactor.com studios, here’s Mike.
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I was thinking a lot about my history with Sean Hannity last night when I saw him sit down with President Trump in the Oval Office for Trump’s first post-inauguration interview. They went one-on-one. You know, Sean and I go way back. In fact, we both started at WABC Radio at about the same time. Sean was brought to New York not as a radio host but to be one of the original primetime hosts of a fledgling Fox News channel. And then Phil Boyce hired Sean to do, I think it was a nighttime, an evening show, originally at WABC. And not long after that, I started there after having worked in Albany. And anyway, Sean and I had a lot of history together, and I just am always so proud of his success. And he’s, of course, become a household name and a good friend of President Trump. So I’m sure that’s why Trump gave Sean that first post-inauguration interview. And I love seeing good things happen to friends of mine. I mean, Sean is engaged now to Ainsley Earhart. They don’t make a big deal about it over on Fox News. But, you know, she’s one of the hosts of Fox and Friends. And, of course, just kind of an interesting dynamic. You know, Sean, of course, is in Florida now. Ainsley works in New York with Fox and Friends. So I guess they get together on the weekends. which, you know, when you have a fleet of private jets and Sikorsky helicopters and rocket ships, I guess you can do that. It’s not hard. It’s an easy commute. I did it, although I took the Amtrak. Denise and the kids were up in Albany, and I was in the city in some ratty apartment over by York Avenue there in Manhattan. And we’d get on the train every Friday after the show and take the train up to Albany and we’d spend the weekend together. It’s a little bit nicer for Sean and Ainsley, I think. I think that the perks of their lives are maybe a little bit better than mine. But look, I’ve got no complaints. And I’m proud of him and I’m happy for him and I’m glad for his success. And I was glad to see him ask Trump about the issue that really bothers me. And I’ve been reluctant this week. But I’ve got to get out of this mode. Look, Trump got elected. I think I did my part. I worked hard. I didn’t agree with piling on. And I don’t want to ever pile on. Because I love the direction our country is going in right now. And I’m grateful. And I’m grateful to every single one of you who voted for him. We did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. So I think I can kind of be maybe a little bit more objective than I was during the campaign and be a little more blunt about my true feelings over things that he does. And I’ve said all along, nobody agrees with everything somebody does. And I’m not going to agree with everything. And I have to confess, I am bothered by the pardon of people who were violent on January 6th. And let me tell you why. First of all, Trump’s answer is perfectly plausible. It’s a perfectly good answer. All of the January 6ers, he said, have been punished enough. And I agree with that. How many years do you go to jail for breaking a window? How many years are you supposed to spend in solitary confinement for being violent with a police officer? I mean, 100?
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50?
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And, you know, I understand the criticism. Well, look, this is a bit of a distraction. Let’s move on. Yes, but… This is a fascinating issue, to me at least, the issue about the difference between a pardon and a commuting of a sentence. If you fought a police officer that day, if you assaulted a police officer on January 6th, I admit I’m not comfortable with that person getting a pardon. A pardon is like wiping the slate clean. A commutation means I’m commuting your sentence. but I’m certainly not going to excuse you for fighting with cops. And that’s what Sean asked. That was what led to this question last night in this really riveting interview that Sean conducted with the 45th and 47th president in the Oval Office.
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The only criticism or pushback I’ve seen is about people that were convicted or were involved in incidents where they were violent with police. Why did they get a pardon?
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Number of reasons. Number one, they were in there for three and a half years, a long time. And in many solitary confinement, treated like nobody’s ever been treated so badly. They were treated like the worst criminals in history. And you know what they were there for? They were protesting the vote. Because they knew the election was rigged and they were protesting the vote. And that you should be allowed to protest a vote. You should be allowed to. You know, the day when the day comes, you shouldn’t be able to invade the Capitol. Ready? Most of the people were absolutely innocent. OK, but forgetting all about that, these people have served. horribly a long time, it would be very, very cumbersome to go and look. You know how many people we’re talking about? 1,500 people. Almost all of them are, should not have been, this should not have happened. And the other thing is this. Some of those people with the police, true, but they were very minor incidents, okay? You know, they get built up by that couple of fake guys that are on CNN all the time. Nobody watches. They were very… minor incidents and it was time you have murderers in Philadelphia you have murderers in Los Angeles that don’t even get any time they don’t even collect them and they know they’re there to be collected and then they go on television and act holier than thou about this one or that one now he’s totally right I agree with everything he said I just struggle with pardoning somebody who assaulted a cop
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And, look, as somebody pointed out from California, it’s got a text message on the MyPillow text line, assault on a police officer typically has a two- to three-year sentence. And all of them did more than that. Absolutely. I agree. It was time for them to get out. There were people sentenced to 15, 20 years. There were some people sentenced to prison for parading, for walking, going through an open door. And that’s garbage. That is bull crap. There’s no reason for that. So I get it. But, you know, as Julie Kelly confirmed to us yesterday, President Trump essentially said, you know, to heck with it. Let’s just pardon them all. They were trying to go on a case-by-case basis for all 1,500 of them. And finally, Trump and his team said, forget it. Let’s just give them a blanket pardon. If I had any reservations… And I suspect Sean does, too. I haven’t talked to him about it, but I think that’s why Sean asked the question. Why pardon somebody who would even think about assaulting a police officer? 800-655-MIKE. Let me get your reaction to all of it. And feel free to disagree. I suspect you will. That’s okay. Let me get your take on it. Again. Difference between a pardon and a commutation. Why pardon all of them, including those who assaulted law enforcement? Got a problem with that. Let’s see if you do, too. 800-655-6453. Hope you join us.
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Are you getting tired of the winning? I mean, are you getting… I mean, we talk about being deliciously fatigued by keeping track of everything. Do you think… Do people get tired of hearing us just revel in DEI gone, birthright citizenship gone, Green New Deal gone, gender sanity, climate sanity? I mean…
SPEAKER 10 :
I said that yesterday repeatedly. Are you tired of winning? It’s like it’s a dream that we don’t want to wake up from. And he sat down last night with kind of a freewheeling conversation with Sean Hannity. And I like that Sean asked him about… Look, why pardon people who assaulted cops? And it’s a fair question. It’s a reasonable question. And his answer was a reasonable one. His answer was, okay, it’s what I basically was saying. How long are you going to incarcerate somebody? I mean, and make no mistake, their lives were destroyed. So in other words, this isn’t just about being in a nice, cushy jail. And incidentally, anything but. They were shuttled from one prison to another. They had all their… I mean, the way these people have been treated, let’s face it, they’re in a different category. Now, a different class of prisoner. Now, to the left and to people who hate Trump and people who hate Trump supporters, that’s perfectly okay. That’s normal. That’s all right. They’re a different… They tried to overthrow the government, Mark. They’re monsters. Democracy was almost in the breach. They were going to hang. Right. They had a guillotine or a noose. I mean, this is all the hysteria. And the gig is up. I mean, it’s absolutely, it’s over. And some of these judges now are freaking out. I saw one headline this morning, judges push back against Trump’s pardon, undoing years of the work they did. Oh, yeah. You put years of your work as a judge to destroy the lives of people, some of whom, maybe let me clarify, many of whom walked into the wrong area. They just were walking because that conviction was parading. The parading conviction, you went to jail. Some of those January Sixers went to jail. So when he asked Trump about, I think, I asked Julie Kelly yesterday, and if you missed my interview with Julie Kelly, we have it posted on YouTube. I hope you follow my YouTube channel. We’re diving our brave new world. We’re back into Facebook and Instagram and X and everything else. And Julie Kelly, who’s the author of January Sixth, and she’s on Substack, this you know she pointed out the the the way these prisoners have been regarded it’s never been done before it’s we’ve never had this happen this way before and uh you know and and many of these people were they’re not afforded due process so she confirmed to me what the Axios reporting said. And the reporting from Axios was that as the Trump team was laboring over case by case, while this person was parading, while this person picked up Nancy’s podium, this person broke a window. And finally, Trump’s position was, and I certainly won’t say the word, but I will say blanket. Yep. Pardon them all. Blanket. We’re done here. Let’s just do a blank. We’re done here, and let’s move on. And Julie confirmed that, which means Trump’s position was, you know what? Some of these people probably did bad things.
SPEAKER 12 :
Are there a couple of people who, by virtue of attacking, who might have… Perfect world deserved a little more than four years of jail time. Sure. Okay, fine. But there are scads of people in the George Floyd riots and the BLM riots. And I know this is sort of both sides-ism. But it’s true. Who got nothing? Who got nothing?
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s right. They got away with it. They got away with it.
SPEAKER 12 :
They were actually heroes. Isn’t it funny to watch the media culture, Mike? The other day, I guess night before last, when he came out with the tech guys with that Stargate healthcare AI thing. which is just fascinating. I’m excited by that. You phrased it exactly right. AI still scares the bejabbers out of me, but is it a possible force for good in so many ways? You bet. And then after that, he said, okay, I’ll take some questions. And the very first questions were, harumph, harumph, President Trump. You’ve said it’s never good to attack a cop. How dare you pardon these people? Suddenly the media culture cares about cops. They didn’t care so much about police when George Floyd rioters were beating their brains in.
SPEAKER 10 :
And if you look at, and if we’re going to talk about pardons, you can’t gloss over what Grandpa Joe did with Fauci and Liz Cheney and all the rest of them for crying out loud. These people, if you accept the premise that Anthony Fauci was complicit with China and we did gain a function and everything else, if you accept that premise, I would argue what Fauci did, and I don’t know that he did, but I’m just saying if you accept that, that’s a heck of a lot worse than anything anybody did on January 6th.
SPEAKER 12 :
So you’re talking about subverting democracy? How about what Liz Cheney and this committee did in their breathless zeal to destroy a president? That was a far greater stain and attack on democracy than the admittedly bad act of storming the Capitol. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 10 :
And he not only has his lifelong pension, I believe he still has security. How do we feel about Trump ripping the Secret Service away from John Bolton? How do you feel about that?
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
It’s not my favorite thing.
SPEAKER 12 :
It’s not. And John Bolton immediately went whining about that. And my first thought was, relax, John. Iran joins America in no longer caring about you. That having been said, his point was, I’m a target. I’ve been a tough anti-terror guy, which he has, back when we liked him. And if it has been custom to – I mean, who gets it? We know ex-presidents do, ex-vices. Well, that’s a good question.
SPEAKER 10 :
Who’s entitled to it?
SPEAKER 12 :
If that’s been the rule, I don’t want it yanked from John Bolton if every other John Bolton has gotten it for 50 years. But by the same token, there’s another question. That’s right. How many people? Secret Service is, I think we’ve learned they’re a little spread thin, haven’t we? So in part of Secret Service reform, we’ve got to figure who gets protection and who doesn’t. Maybe every last hanger on and staffer in every presidency, maybe the line is placed somewhere. So, I don’t know. Does it look vindictive? Is your problem that it looks vindictive because Bolton hates Trump?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, well, and I don’t want anything happening to anybody. I mean, I want everybody to be safe. And some of these people, I’m, look, I already got in enough trouble over the pastor, so I’m not going to get in trouble again today. The bishop. I thought about you. Oh, yeah. I know.
SPEAKER 12 :
Did you see the tour she went on on The View and CNN?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, look, look. Hey, Mark. Mark, come on. How did… Look, Mark, Mark, how dare you? Every good woman of the cloth has to go to the view. Come on. A woman of God, there’s nothing more spiritual than sitting down with Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar. I mean, if that doesn’t expose who she is, then nothing does.
SPEAKER 12 :
Real quick, before you go, on the vindictiveness beat, this is just 30 seconds. What do you think about them yanking the portrait of General Milley off the wall of the Pentagon? Love it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Love it. Take them all down. Take them all down. Take out the pliers and the hammer and pull those portraits off the wall. I think you’ve got to take down Biden’s. All right. Incidentally, let’s talk grace. Did you see Biden’s note to Trump in the desk? Now, first of all, 30 seconds on this. Outgoing presidents leave a little note.
SPEAKER 12 :
But wait a minute.
SPEAKER 10 :
But wait a minute. Here’s how this was uncovered, though. This is hysterical. Peter Doocy, who is now reporter in residence at the White House. I mean, he gets to ask all the questions. It’s a whole new dawn for that young man. He’s just the happiest guy going because he gets all that. And he says to Trump in the Oval Office the other night, Have you looked in the desk to see if there’s a letter from Biden? Have you seen the letter? And Trump says, this is on TV. I don’t know. Is there a letter in here? He opens the drawer and there’s the letter. Peter Doocy made Trump. So Trump never opened his desk, the resolute desk, and there was the letter. And it was charming and it was gracious. But I’ve got to talk about it. Well, but I got to talk about the letter. The letter was, hey, I’m praying for you and your family. May America shine. I love you. Did he write it?
SPEAKER 11 :
Did he write it?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, but do you write that to Hitler? Do you write that to a fascist? I mean, this is what we mean about they never meant it when they were so… They couldn’t have meant it, or don’t mean it now. And here’s the thing. If you think he’s a fascist, well, then you don’t need to leave him a letter. Who cares about tradition? Don’t leave a letter to the… All right, now let’s go down this hive rabbit hole. The Hive Bakery. lord in heaven above i did a little bit of a deep dive into that woman who owns it in flower mound and you and i got some some mentions all over the country because you you talked about it i talked about it i saw people posting oh mark davis at 6 60 a.m the answer talked about this mike gallagher and mark talked about it this is the lady the trump hating far left loony who’s got a bakery in flower mound texas Now, Mark, is Flower Mound, am I crazy? Is it not a conservative community? Southern Denton County, pretty conservative stretch of territory, yes. Well, she hates apparently the people who live there because she said the MAGA people here are garbage. They’re not fit to lick our spoons. We’ve got the best bakery in Texas. And you’re all scum because people were asking her to bake MAGA cakes and everything. But I guess she perceived that to be a goof. What if it wasn’t a goof?
SPEAKER 12 :
Exactly. I thought about this some yesterday. For those who don’t know… We’re all hopped up about bakeries in conservative land because everybody wanted the conservative bakers to make the gay wedding cake or the trans reveal cake or blah, blah, blah. And the bakers didn’t want to do it. And we said, hey, you got the right not to do that. So flip the coin. Does the liberal baker have the right to refuse a MAGA cake? You and I would say, yes, that’s a free speech right, too. So if they get 50 orders for MAGA cakes at the Hive Bakery where they got rainbow flags and Beto stickers, does somebody really want them to do it or is it just a bit? Are they just trolling? I’m
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, how do you know? I mean, you’re in the customer service business. If you work at a Publix or a Winn-Dixie and somebody walks in and buys items… But I’d be suspicious. I mean, but it’s not Publix. It’s not Winn-Dixie. It’s not Kroger. But it’s not her role. I know. It’s not… Somebody wants to order a dozen cupcakes.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, anyway… But don’t you kind of think… Okay, put on… Let’s say you and I run the Lib Bakery, the pretty famous Lib Bakery, and we get 10 orders for MAGA cakes. Aren’t you going to think, okay, this is a bit. They just want us to make the cake and then they’re going to stiff us.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, ask the lady who owns the bakery what she thinks of the guy who doesn’t want to bake cakes for a same-sex wedding couple. I guarantee you she believes that that baker is discriminating for not doing so. So I don’t think you get to sit around and say, but here’s the bottom line. Yeah. Check out her social media posts. Oh, my Lord. This woman. I’ve seen them. You have? Not just over recently. I mean, like, how about people who she doesn’t like, who, like, complain about, she was complaining about customers who don’t like the style of icing she has. In other words, stuff that was completely unrelated to this controversy. I don’t know. Just seems testy. Testy? Not since one flew over the cuckoo’s nest have we seen testy like this. This woman, and this is the thing. It’s beyond politics, Mark. Let’s face it. Some of these people are truly, and I’m not saying this to be pejorative here, they’re truly mentally ill.
SPEAKER 12 :
There’s a mental health issue. It’s got to be exhausting to go through life that way.
SPEAKER 10 :
But there’s also something wrong with some of these people. And I have to respectfully say, ma’am, you might make good cupcakes. Get you to a counselor. Go to your pastor. Go to a rabbi.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, find some counseling.
SPEAKER 10 :
Find some therapy because there’s something wrong with her. She was mad about apparently some customer complained about what time they closed, and she was like, F you. I can close when I want, and I’m a baker.
SPEAKER 12 :
That’s another talk show. Let’s say they close at 6. Did somebody walk in at 5.58?
SPEAKER 10 :
with a really complex order. I mean, it’s quite the adventure. Look, you want some fun reading? Go into the history of the Hive Bakery and Flower Mound social media posts, and you will go right down that rabbit hole. So, my goodness. All right, well, troops on the way to the border. AOC, what’s not to love? Elon Musk’s a Nazi. The talk show gods continue to smile on us, my friend. Brave new world for me today. You’re a creature of habit. I know how you are about the way you do things in your studio. For 20 years, I’ve had like 19 monitors. It’s like a space shuttle cockpit. I have to have my text messages displayed. I have to have my this. I have to have my – well, they’ve talked me into going to one monitor total. Oh, my. And I’m doing it to death. I’m scared to death. I’m in a sweat.
SPEAKER 12 :
Is smoke going to be pouring off that screen because you’ve got so much loaded into it?
SPEAKER 10 :
I’ve got like seven screens, but what they’ve introduced me to are the concept of tabs. I didn’t even know about tabs. But you can tab from click, click, click, and you go to one screen. So I’m doing it all today. The show’s going to be a disaster. I can’t concentrate. I’m shaking. I’ve got a rash on my forehead. The first time in 20 years I’ve used one monitor for everything. I have an idea.
SPEAKER 12 :
Let’s see how the show’s going to go. Middle of the show.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, Mike, this is Bill in Philadelphia.
SPEAKER 12 :
I just want to know… Eric, I can’t get the screen to work. Eric, I can’t see the monitor.
SPEAKER 11 :
Do you like Trump? Is this a good thing, Mike? I’d like your analysis.
SPEAKER 10 :
Tracy, where’s my OneNote? Tracy, where’s my OneNote? I can’t see it, Tracy. Are you okay? Tracy! Yeah, that’s the way it’s going to go. We’re in trouble here, so pray for me. I’m so brave. I’m so brave. Love you, too.
SPEAKER 03 :
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