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This episode of Drive Radio on KLZ 560 is your one-stop-shop for unraveling the complexities of car maintenance and diagnostics. Hosts and guests share their knowledge on diagnosing elusive automotive problems, dealing with cold weather vehicle challenges, and understanding the evolution of car components. Whether you’re looking for a second opinion on your vehicle’s issues or seeking to make sense of the latest hybrid acceleration experiences, our experts have you covered with practical advice and solutions.
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It’s 106 miles to Chicago. We’ve got a full tank of gas. It’s dark, and we’re wearing sunglasses. Hit it.
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Whether you need help diagnosing a problem. I want to ask you a bunch of questions, and I want to have them answered immediately. Or just want to learn about all things automotive.
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Hey, how exactly does a positive track rear end on a Plymouth work?
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And it is Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Thank you all for listening. We appreciate it very much. Charlie Grimes, our engineer. Larry Anger, of course, answering phones for us. If you’ve got a question, call in, which we’ll give you that number here in just a moment. Ken Rackley, Tunetech Automotive, with us today. So good morning, Ken. Good morning. Always good to be here. Mark Guernsey at Accountable as well. He was with us a little bit in Fix-It Radio, so good morning, Mark, as well. Good morning. And appreciate Mark. And again, up in Broomfield, so we’ve got all the way down in Aurora, all the way up in Broomfield. You can find both of them, by the way, by just going to our website, drive-radio.com, drive-radio.com. I actually gave both these guys’ name out earlier in the week. as well and just refer people to the website it’s easy that way you can find them and and make a phone call go online however you want to do it it’s all there all the information is there so it makes it really easy our line here our number here i should say 303-477-5600 303-477-5600 the text line which a lot of you use as well which we can answer questions off of and we do each week 307 282 22 307 282 22 we actually answered a couple of automotive questions during fix it radio so keep those coming in we’ll get those questions answered they were both good questions and we’ll i mean i answer those during the week even somebody calls up and has a question we’ll we’ll answer i don’t care i mean uh people drive And typically automotive questions come up because not everybody knows the answers. And by the way, that equals those of us that are here. There’s times where we’ll get into things where we’ve got to go do some research and figure out exactly what’s happening with a particular problem we’re trying to solve or a question that a customer might have or whatever because it’s the nature of the business, right?
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Right, exactly. Well, and, you know, half the time you think of these questions as you’re driving, so you don’t have time to, you know, maybe ask them at that point, and it’s during the week, but anyway.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, you know, and can you just mention a great point? So those of you listening, you guys do text me on a lot of things during the week, and I appreciate that, but if you really want to talk to someone about… a particular problem you’re having, you can go to any of our shops that help us with this program.
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We’re there all day every day.
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Yeah, they’re there and able to answer the phone when in a lot of cases I can’t because I wear a lot of hats during the week and I’m on air in the afternoons and so on. And yeah, sometimes you guys will call in and ask a question then. But typically speaking, if you’ve got a, especially more of a long-winded, question where you’re going to have to spend some time on the phone and they even need to go online and look a few things up and so on. You know, both Mark and Ken or Steve at Geno’s or Arvada West, or I can go down the list of the folks that we’ve got that we’re involved with. And the reality, you know, Josh up at Legacy or up in Fort Collins, Pat up there. I mean, the reality is any of the folks that we have that we are associated with, Toyaxis, downtown Denver on the Toyota, Lexus, Honda sides of things. I We have somebody literally you could pick up the phone and talk to, and it doesn’t have to be me is my point. We have a great network of individuals that can help you answer those questions, and it doesn’t always have to be me. A lot of times, John, it’s just the relay. In some cases, absolutely it is. In some cases, depending upon what it is, I’m sending that to one of these guys anyways, especially if I know. Because one of the first things I always ask is, what area are you in? Sure. And if somebody says, well, in this case, I’m in North Denver or Broomfield or I’m in Thornton or I’m in Aurora or even in the park area or whatever, I will automatically send them to whoever you’re closest to and say, well, first things first. In a lot of cases, it’s a vehicle where it needs to be looked at anyways. So at that case or in that point, it’s like, okay, get that vehicle into one of these individuals, into one of these shops. Let’s find out exactly what’s going on because – There’s a meme going around the Internet right now. Maybe I’m the only one that’s seen this, but it shows. Let me make sure I say this correctly. So it’s got like this gypsy with the crystal ball in front of him. And the caption is diagnosing car problems over the phone.
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Right.
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Okay. And in a lot of cases, when I get messages and things like that, I mean, I know some things and I know some of you personally, and you’re pretty good at describing exactly what’s going on. But the reality is until somebody puts their hands on said vehicle, it’s a crapshoot. It’s a guess because you really don’t know what’s going on until you see it.
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Exactly. Yeah, and I get a lot of those calls during the week. It’s like, I just need a tune-up. It’s like, oh, yeah, why is that? And, you know, it’s like, well, it’s running rough. It’s like, and the check engine light’s on, and is it flashing? No. You know, it’s like, okay, well, tune-up’s probably not going to take care of that. One percent of chance it might, but there’s something else going on.
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And Mark and Ken both know this. We don’t even use the word tune-up anymore.
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No. No, it doesn’t mean anything. It’s a thing of the past. It doesn’t change the way it runs. Anything that’s considered a tune-up would just be more maintenance type thing. Correct. Just to keep it, continue to run for a long time.
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Correct. So when you guys that are listening, by the way, some of you and you think, well, I need a tune-up, and you walk into the shop and they kind of give you this funny look like, well, why? It’s because we, honestly, we haven’t used that term in two decades. Right.
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Exactly.
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I’m not exaggerating when I say that. It hasn’t been used in 15 to 20 years.
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Right. Exactly.
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Exactly. Because tune-up can mean, first of all, there’s no plugs, points, cap, rotor, wires in a lot of cases. They just don’t have the existing parts that we used to have to even consider being a part of a tune-up. Even fuel filters anymore are typically built into the tank on the pump itself. They’re not even changeable.
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Most manufacturers got away with fuel filters 20, 25 years ago.
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Anymore, a tune-up would be considered possibly a plug change, maybe the coil packs on top with the boots that go to the plug, and maybe, just maybe, do an induction service as well. Sure. And anymore, those are typically done separate from one another. Sometimes they can be done at the same time, but typically those are done apart from each other.
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Right, and a lot of the calls that I get, somebody asking for a tune-up, They’re more so referring to an oil change, you know, just more standard maintenance type thing. Yeah, exactly. Just a service, just a biannual service or whatever. Good to know. And yeah, because, you know, the more prying you do, you know, just what are you looking for? Why do you think you need that? Yeah, right.
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And that was always my first question was, you know, why do you think you need that? Well, I’ve got such and such, such and such. Okay, well, let’s dig into a little bit deeper and find out exactly what’s going on. Or the other one I would always get as a shop operator would be, well, it’s over at such and such, and they’re telling me I need this, that, and the other. Okay, well, let’s dig a little deeper into that one as well. Why are they telling you this? Why did you take it in in the first place? What was the initial problem? What are we trying to fix with this and, and, and? And then ultimately, I would say, well, if you’re really looking for it, and this is straight up what I used to say, If you’re looking for a second opinion, you must have doubts as to where you are now. Let’s confirm all of that. Let’s get rid of the doubt in your mind. We’ll get you that second opinion. Let’s determine what the cause of the problem is and let’s move forward because evidently something is awry here and you don’t like what’s going on. So let’s help you fix that.
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A lot of times a technician at another shop is young and misdiagnoses it. It happens all the time.
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Or the customer just doesn’t feel comfortable.
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Or it was diagnosed by an uncle or a friend or the parts store.
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That’s true, too. Happens a lot. That’s true, too, Mark.
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Absolutely.
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My neighbor said.
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Yeah, exactly. The cubicle over said. Yeah, exactly. It could be this. Exactly. It very well could be, but it could be 500 different other things, too.
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John and Cheyenne, you’re up, sir.
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Good morning, gentlemen. Good morning. Good morning. so I’ll give you a quick back story my 11 Ram 1500 4.7 235,000 plus miles on it I took it to work on Monday and I parked it for the week and I got back yesterday afternoon and when I went to start it it cranked but it didn’t want to start right away until I gave it some gas that’s weird
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Especially with fuel injection, that’s really weird.
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And it had been cold while you were gone, or was it still cold yesterday?
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Well, yeah, it got down to almost zero here in Cheyenne, I think, on Tuesday and Wednesday. It was parked outside the whole five days.
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Yeah. So I, you know, and we had a couple of vehicles like that, that was, it was rough starting after the cold spell. Uh, you know, all we can figure is maybe, you know, it dropped a little bit excess fuel pressure in the line and, you know, finally built that back up, but I. It’s kind of a guess at that point. Luckily, it did finally start. But, yeah, it’s… As soon as I gave it some gas, it started right up. Okay. Yeah, that’s kind of peculiar.
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Yeah, the computer should compensate for that. So that means something’s not quite right. Yeah, exactly.
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I didn’t get any check engine lights or codes or anything. I haven’t read the codes with… What’s that? Say that again.
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You broke up, John. You didn’t read the codes or we lost you there?
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I didn’t. I did not read the codes because it was last evening when I got home. And there may not be any. Right.
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Not every problem sets a code. Good point.
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And, yeah, it was something like that. In some cases, you know, cars that – and not – I guess I can’t even say most. Maybe some cars, if there is an issue as they get a little older, you know, cycle the key in the on position, turn it off, cycle it on. You know, just build the pressure up to, you know, where it needs to be when you initially start it. Can’t hurt, but, you know, kind of hard to say if that would help in that situation or not.
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Yeah. I’m sorry. Who’s speaking? I didn’t catch the name of the show, John.
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Oh, yeah. This is Ken.
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Yeah. Tune tech. Why does it seem like every time it’s snowing up here, you and Ken are on the air?
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Well, it’s got to have been that way this year. Well, yeah. Sometimes I can’t make it, so I get here when I can.
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It has kind of been that way, John.
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You’re right. Not on purpose.
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I’m not moving snow today. I’m not moving snow because we didn’t get enough. It just started about an hour ago. Right.
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We got some rain. That’s funny. Actually, looking back on it, you are correct for the most part. Yeah, Ken’s been here on snowy days.
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You are right.
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Well, there’s nothing to do at home other than plow. Yeah, and that’s what I’m normally doing. That’s great. John, the other thing, I had a comment, and it really stepped out to me. So I took a company pool vehicle. And it was a 21 Escape hybrid. Okay. And it drove nice. I mean, I’m not going to complain.
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No, they are. Back when I was test driving those even and talking about them in our reviews and such, yeah, John, I never had a single complaint. Good vehicle. They work great.
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Well, here’s what I noticed, and this is what made me laugh, is when I got in the Ram after I got it started, it was like, I didn’t notice how much difference in the acceleration was on that hybrid until I got back in my Ram.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. I’m like, what’s going on? Is there something wrong? And then I’m like, yeah, you were driving on. So those hybrids, they really take off from the light and stuff and go unlike, you know, an older gas engine. But yeah, I just want to comment on that. I drove one and it ran really well. I drove it all the way up to rapid city. It drives nice on the interstate on the back. You know, I was doing, you know, Three or four above the limit all the way, whatever the limit was, and it handled really nice. And what I like about that better than my 4Runner is if I drift on the lane, we had crosswinds in Wyoming. That never happened.
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No, really?
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Come on now.
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Never not happened.
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If I do that in a 4Runner, it beats. You know what I mean? Right. to let me know, the lane control. Where in that Ford, it just kind of vibrated the wheel a little bit. Everything’s a little different.
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My Chevy vibrates your butt. Each vehicle’s a little different on how it does things.
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It’s better than the 4Runner. Actually, I turned the 4Runner lane control off.
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Personally, truthfully, I don’t like the beep, so I’m with you on that one. I would rather have maybe the wheel shake a little bit with my truck.
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Have a feel instead of audible.
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Personally, I like that better than the audible.
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I would think so, yeah.
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Sure.
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Well, I just wanted to get your opinion. And like I said, the truck is going on 13 years old with 235,000 miles. Do you think maybe I need to have a…
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more you know when i do uh an epr i usually do a 44k on it too do you think i maybe need to do something a little more net on the fuel system it’s always a good idea um i’m going to say on that truck we’ve run into a lot of fuel pump relay issues and chrysler actually has a relocate kit to get that relay separated and it’s a very well known problem on your particular ram So you may want to look into that. I mean, test it. Make sure that’s what’s going on. But it’s a very common problem with corrosion in the relay where it originally was developed or designed.
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Where did they put it originally, if I can ask?
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It’s in the tip of the totally integrated power module up front.
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Right, right. It’s a relay box that’s not serviceable, so they made that particular relay serviceable.
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Right, so they cut the wires and place it elsewhere to avoid the corrosion and avoid that problem.
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All right. Well, if I keep running into it, I’ll take it into my guy. I’m a little… Not great on some of the newer electronics, so I’ve got a good mechanic, and he probably knows about that.
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Absolutely. And it’s a service kit that is installed on that. So, yeah, it makes things fairly cut and dry.
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All right. Well, you guys be safe. Have a good day. We will, John. You too, man.
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Appreciate you very much. We will be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Okay, a question I asked during Fix-It Radio, which we ended up taking so many other phone calls on, we didn’t really get to the question of the day. So today’s question of the day, I’m just continuing on here on Drive Radio, which was my plan initially, is what’s your favorite tool? And for a lot of you listening, it can be all sorts of things. And I gave you what mine was during Fix-It Radio. And it varies. At least for me, it does. Some weeks, it’s… better than the other now i also have another favorite tool which i talked about during fix it radio uh being i have a cordless vacuum milwaukee cordless vacuum that just works fabulous and it’s awesome now i have another tool that’s my favorite and my son got me this for christmas uh i want to say a year or so ago christmas or birthday can’t remember which anyways it was a gift And he had one and he knew how much I envied it. And so he got me one. And it’s the only one that I know of. And I’m not typically one that wants extra chargers and batteries and so on, because, you know, if you go one brand, it kind of gets nice.
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Right.
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This is one of those rare exceptions. So DeWalt makes a cordless screwdriver. That works off of a gyro, meaning you don’t have all these stupid buttons and stuff that you’re always dinking with. In other words, if it’s engaged and you turn it clockwise to the right, it tightens. If you turn to the left, it loosens. And it does it based upon how much turn you’re putting into it as to how fast and how much torque it applies. It is the slickest cordless screwdriver ever. that you’ll ever use, and it’s industrial type. So it’s not like one of these pen type that you’re using for a computer or things like that.
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Used for three projects and it breaks.
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Yeah, no, this is robust where if you’re taking a dash apart or a console or you’re using it around the house to even put a light switch in or anything along those lines, it’s more than enough for all of that. In fact, it’s powerful enough to drive a drywall screw into wood or something if you want to use it for that. I mean, it’s not some cheesy… cordless screwdriver that you’ve seen some of these in the past where it gets to half a turn and stops. Oh no, this thing is… You’ve got to be hanging on to it.
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It’s pretty robust.
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But what’s cool about it is, again, with the gyro part of it, it becomes very natural and how you’re using it, and you’re no longer triggering and trying to paddle or whatever you’re doing with a switch on going on or off as far as that particular fastener is concerned. And it’s got the regular hex bit top to where you can literally put any fastener in it that you want to, put a long extension, a short one, however you want to do it. but the cool thing is literally you can be any direct and I don’t know how this thing works. I mean, I’d love to take it apart and see what the innards are made of, but you literally can be upside down. You could be using it flat. You could be using it top down. And when you turn the screwdriver, you know, the handle, you know, and it’s all one assembly. So, but when you just make that movement and you’ve got your, it’s got a little button you push. And then if you move it right or left, it knows how much you want to tighten or loosen based on that. And, and, Once you get a little bit of a hang, and it doesn’t take much to get the hang of it. Literally, use it once or twice, and you’re like, oh, man, this thing is like, okay, I get how this thing works.
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How have we ever functioned without it?
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This is the simplest thing ever, and it works. Now, the one thing about it, and this is true even if you’re a DeWalt guy, its battery is all on its own anyways. So it’s one of those, because of its size, you’re going to be using it. I don’t care if you’re a DeWalt guy, Milwaukee guy, Ryobi guy, whatever. You’re going to be using this battery, this charger on its own anyways. Now I will tell you this. I think I end up charging this thing, and I use it quite a bit. I don’t think I charge this thing but once every other month if I’m lucky. That’s how long the battery lasts. It has a lifespan to it. And the other thing that’s nice about it, I was using it the other day for something, is let’s say it’s a really, really tight fastener and you don’t want to rely on… It’s one of those things where you don’t want to rely on the automatic portion of the screwdriver to tighten it. You want to know exactly how tight it is on your own. You just leave the button off and use it as a regular screwdriver. You can literally tighten that fastener exactly the tightness that you want. Some people use torque wrenches. I’ll be straight up honest. uh it’s a rarity for me to use a torque wrench unless you’re doing wheels or something along those lines because anymore i’ve done things long enough where i can pretty much tell you is this 20 pounds 30 pounds 40 pounds i mean i can pretty much tell you what i’m doing right where it’s at because you’ve done it long enough at this point right and there are there are those times where you want to know exactly kind of where you’re at well you can just release the button still use it as a regular screwdriver And it’s all locked in at that point, and it literally then becomes just a regular mechanical screwdriver, and off you go. It is literally, folks, I’m not exaggerating, one of the slickest, not only around the house, but I ended up, because I’ve got a barn with stuff out there, I actually have one up by my house, and I actually bought a second one and put it out in the barn because it becomes so handy. I don’t want to have to run back and forth to find it. I just have one in each toolbox.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I know. First world problem.
SPEAKER 06 :
I get it. It’s a tool nut problem, which I am. Well, how many things do I have at work that I have at home and then out in the shop? You and I, we’re one and the same.
SPEAKER 10 :
Some things I’ll have two or three of because I’m addicted to tools. Okay. I’m not a gambler. I’m not a druggie. I never was into any kind of things along those lines. But if there’s any addiction I have, it’s tools.
SPEAKER 06 :
You get your fix off of tools. That’s right. Yeah, right. Exactly. A snap-on truck goes by and it’s like, uh. Right. Exactly.
SPEAKER 10 :
But again, you guys can go look it up. I’ll try to look up the number here during break for some of you.
SPEAKER 06 :
Is it an 8-volt or a 18-volt? Hang on. Okay, let me do this. Anyway.
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We’re close to a break. I will find the exact part number here in just one second. I should have had that on the front side, but I was just thinking about it when we talked about the best tool. Hang tight. Lines are open. 303-477-5600. We’ll be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 06 :
The only thing you need to throw in the kit would be a 10-millimeter socket, and you’re pretty much ready to roll.
SPEAKER 10 :
Off you go. Absolutely. And just to make sure, too, this is not like a lot of the cordless screwdrivers. You’ll have, like, a hinge in the middle where they’ll bend and do different things. I’m guessing because this one’s gyroscopic, it doesn’t do that. It is one straight, about 8-inch long or so screwdriver. It’s got a little button at the bottom. So the way you hold it is you hold it in your hand, and, of course, your fingers, your two middle fingers… It can hit the button, so if you want to use the gyroscope, you hit the button and then turn one way or the other, and it’ll tighten or loosen. Or you can leave it off altogether and then just tighten it. And it’s got a rubber grip to it, so it makes it – And it feels good. Yeah, it feels good in your hand and all. I mean, whoever designed this for them, and if it was them, you know, whatever, good job. I have not yet seen – and my son and I both have looked – I should say son’s plural. I have yet to see anybody else that makes as robust of a screwdriver that does what this doesn’t and why they don’t. Ryobi, Milwaukee, you know, all the rest of them. Why no one else does this? I have no idea because this has got to be a top seller for the wall. Once people now here’s the downside to it. You can’t buy it at Home Depot. And we don’t know why. Home Depot does not carry this particular tool. You have to go to DeWalt, Amazon, online, whatever. I do not know and I cannot answer why…
SPEAKER 06 :
Maybe it’s just something they haven’t introduced. It’s just not a SKU they carry. Right. Maybe it’s not something that they feel it would sell.
SPEAKER 10 :
And, again, folks, I have no idea why that is the case, but I will tell you that all in all is, in my opinion, one of the best tools and funnest tools, reliable tools that I own. Buck and Cheyenne, you’re next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
Good morning, John. Good morning, Buck. Good morning. I want to thank you. before I went to the Barrett-Jackson thing.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, nice.
SPEAKER 07 :
You asked for a little report back. Yes, please. You’ve got a couple hours. I can fill you in. Exactly. I’ll try and be a little more concise. You’re fine. One of the things we planned on being down there Tuesday, and my wife and I both picked up the crud, And so we didn’t get down there until Wednesday evening. We figured on being down there Monday evening.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, you were fine.
SPEAKER 07 :
So it shorted us a couple days. Then we had a little, we both had scooters, and mine had a little mobility problem the first day. I did rent a scooter down there. They’re about $70 a day. But if I was going to do it again, I would do more pre-planning. Okay. If I hadn’t talked to you, I really would have been lost. Well, thank you. And I’m so amazed at what they do there.
SPEAKER 10 :
You there, Buck? We lost you. Oh, we lost you. Buck, I tell you what, I’m going to take a call from Jerry. Buck, call us back. I still want to hear about the rest of your experience, so we’ll get you back on, get to a better spot, and we’ll have you right back on. Jerry and Greeley, go ahead.
SPEAKER 14 :
Last fall, I had an incident where I was up in the mountains on a dirt road and got— somewhat behind a truck that was dumping, I’m assuming it was mag chloride. Yeah, most likely. Yeah, they had a sign that said… On a dirt road, yeah, typically that’s the case, yes.
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s suppressive, yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
And I was shortly behind him. I’m actually driving through puddles of this stuff, and so as soon as I could get home, I crawled under there and washed everything off as well as I could. But, well, just in general, it seems like It seems like it used to be whatever they put on the roads, it would dry white when it was done, and then it was pretty easy to hose off. But they must be putting something else on there nowadays because on my vehicles, my white vehicles, it’s got a real brownish tint. And it’s a lot harder to get off, like it sticks.
SPEAKER 06 :
Actually, talking to Douglas County, they put a molasses in there.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, that would make sense.
SPEAKER 06 :
And if they get too much in there, it turns into just slime when it gets wet before it settles. Okay. There’s your answer, Jerry. That’s probably why it’s sticky.
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely. Yeah, it makes sense.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. Well, and I always do whatever I can to hose it off as soon as I can underneath because I don’t want things rusting up. But is there any sort of a treatment you can put on that does anything that’s worth a darn that’ll stay underneath on the undercarriage?
SPEAKER 10 :
There’s a lot of folks that will advertise things, even like spray on ceramic coating and so on. And I’ll be honest, Jerry, no, nothing that I have seen that I think is legitimate for what the money is they’re asking. I haven’t seen anything yet that I would buy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and we have that on our roads, too, and we’ve been driving on them for 20-plus years. I mean, just keeping them clean. That’s it. I don’t see a lot of rust on our vehicles. I mean, I don’t see any more than any other vehicles.
SPEAKER 10 :
And I’ve experienced this. I’ve talked about this, Jerry, on air before, given what we do as a business. I will tell you straight up. you’re getting a lot more corrosion out of the road salt that’s put down in the wintertime like now. In fact, if you look at the roads, you know, a day after a storm, they’ll be white just from all of the brine and the salt and stuff that’s going down on them. And the brine they’re putting down is basically a liquid salt that they’re putting down on the front side. CDOT is, in my opinion, and I don’t think I’m wrong on this, Jerry, because I can tell you this from experience with the vehicles that we own and what we do with applications and so on. you’re getting far more corrosion from the salt than you are even the mag chloride. Yeah. I learned that the hard way.
SPEAKER 06 :
Keeping it as clean as possible. That’s right.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, Jerry, to the point where, like with us, even when we put product down as a company and our sanding units and so on, in the old days, we would wash all those out after each storm, get them all nice and clean and so on, and we soon realized that we were actually hurting ourselves. We now just… blow everything off best we can in between storms. We let that sit. We dry it out. We then put new product in the next snowstorm. And we don’t wash them until the very, very end of the year now.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Because of that.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s good.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I… Well, I mean, I guess I could drag the hose out of the air compressor in the garage and do that.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, I think for a regular vehicle, I mean, keep in mind with us, we’re talking, you know, we’re putting tons of salt in a hopper and all of that. It’s a little different than what’s coming onto your vehicle already in a liquid form. Yeah, if you can just get that washed off as soon as possible after a storm, that’s the way to do it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, the mag chloride, I mean, just living on that as long as we have, we haven’t really seen a big of an issue. Like John said, the salt they put on the road is a lot worse than the mag chloride.
SPEAKER 10 :
I can tell you that our trucks, our salt trucks, get way more corrosion than our mag truck. Let’s just say that. That’s what I learned the hard way.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, you wash the mag chloride off, and it doesn’t leave a salt film behind where it’s going to continue to rust. That’s right. Exactly.
SPEAKER 10 :
So, I mean, not something I’d worry about as long as you’re washing it afterwards. Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I appreciate it.
SPEAKER 10 :
You’re very welcome, Jerry. No, you’re welcome. I appreciate that call very much because that’s a great topic this time of the year. Buck, go ahead, man. We have you back.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. I don’t know what happened. Well, it’s all right.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, hey, technology.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Anyway, before anybody goes and if they haven’t read you, I’d agree you’ve been lost, you need to do some pre-planning. And your idea of just buying general admission at that, you said find somebody that will get you into better. I ended up talking to my friendly banker and getting a letter from him and bought a bidder’s number for about $500. And it was well worth it. You figure the Going in and out every day for two people, you get a bidder’s number and you also get a pass for your partner. So it’s cheaper, if you’re going to be there four or five days, it’s cheaper to get a bidder’s number. It is to pay daily admission.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah. Yeah, and thank you for that tip, Buck. I am fortunate enough to, when I go, I’ve got a media pass and don’t have to buy anything, so I’m very fortunate as far as that goes. And I’ve never done the math on the ticket prices, so thank you for that, because I wouldn’t have thought of that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, makes sense.
SPEAKER 07 :
But you need to start about two weeks ahead of time. We registered when we were there at If you would get online and register a couple weeks ahead of time and have all that stuff ready to go would certainly help. The other thing is there’s so much to see. My wife and I decided we’re going to go back again because we didn’t get to see all of it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Nice.
SPEAKER 07 :
And you talk about putting those guys are promoters. They are. That is a class thing.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and really quick, Buck, for those that maybe don’t know, Barrett Jackson itself was sold several years ago to a promotion company that they felt like they could even up the ante on what Barrett Jackson was doing. Not that they were doing it poorly, but they felt like they could get in there and add some things to what they were doing prior. And, Buck, to their credit, they did.
SPEAKER 07 :
And the other thing is, besides just seeing the cars go across, We didn’t try and get up on the stage. We could have with our bidder’s number.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right, right.
SPEAKER 07 :
But just as Carl…
SPEAKER 10 :
Say that again, Buck, just the what? We lost you. Oh, we lost him again. Okay, let’s do this. I still want to hear what he has to say, so we’ll get Buck to call us back right after the break here. Lines are open, by the way, 303-477-5600. Myself, Ken Rackley, Tunetech Automotive. Mark Guernsey, of course, with us as well from Accountable up in Broomfield. We’ll be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I’ll get right into it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, go for it. First of all, the roadsters, the typical old hot rods that I grew up with, those values are not holding up. They are not. You’re correct. And the other thing that was very interesting, 10,000 may be a little tight, but between 10,000 and 50,000… you can buy you a very nice drivable special car out there if you’re inclined to get one of those. There were a lot of cars that sold for less than $50,000, especially early on, and I’m sure it was the two days we missed. They also sell a lot of memorabilia, which is kind of interesting. I wasn’t interested in it. probably want to know, Rick Hendricks bought a couple of ZR1 Corvettes.
SPEAKER 10 :
He bought the first one, VIN001, I believe, right, Buck?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
3.8 million or something, right?
SPEAKER 1 :
3.7.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, 3.7, okay, 3.7 million. And then he had one, he donated, he bought one for a little over a million that was to go to the, people that were hurt by the hurricane down in the southeast part of the United States, plus a little bit towards California. He bought one for over a million dollars, donated it back, and then bought it again for over a million dollars. He’s a class act.
SPEAKER 10 :
He is a class act, and of course, as most people know, he’s made a fortune in all the things that he has done, and He’s a billionaire, and I’m not saying that’s anything to be taken lightly, but he doesn’t have $100 billion or $50 billion. He is literally a billionaire, but even with that, Buck does a lot of great things for the community. In fact, I will tell you, probably in that regard, does as much as guys that are worth 10 times, even 100 times his net worth do.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and he’s also self-made. He didn’t inherit it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah, no, no, yeah, no, no, he made all that on his own. If you go read his history about working in the industry and starting out working at, you know, car lots and dealerships and so on, and then owning, you know, getting enough money put together to buy a lot or buy a dealership, and then on and on he went. Yeah, Buck, yeah, he is a true American story.
SPEAKER 07 :
Again, kind of honored to move on more with these cars. The 55 Chevys on up seem to do pretty good, even the Restomods, some of that. The Mopars are holding their value pretty good. Somebody took an old Plymouth and made a Daytona out of it, and the thing sold for, I don’t know, $250,000, something like that.
SPEAKER 10 :
And it’s not even original.
SPEAKER 07 :
And it wasn’t even a numbers or anything.
SPEAKER 10 :
It’s a clone car.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Yeah. And the Mustangs, Cobras, they are holding their value pretty good.
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely. So are Camaros and Chevelles. Those are doing very well also. And then I’m guessing, Buck, I didn’t look, but just because I know they haven’t really dropped much, but the early Blazers, early Chevy trucks, and the Broncos, of course, are just sky high.
SPEAKER 07 :
That’s right. I should have kept one or two that I had. Yeah, me too.
SPEAKER 10 :
It makes two of us. Yeah, I had several of those back in the day, including some scouts that were actually in consideration. If I had just kept them the way they were, they would be worth a fortune today because they were bone stock and just cream puffs at the time. But, you know, Buck, I was raising a family and needed cash.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think we all have a little story along those lines. You know? Right. That’s a good old American story. The other thing that was kind of interesting to me, they had a driving experience, and I think their machine that simulated the racing driving was $165,000. But they had a demonstrator there, and I didn’t get into it, but you could get into it, And I think for a fee, they would simulate driving a race car. And that was really interesting to me. They had some other, I can’t think of their names, that would give you a five- or seven-day course for about $1,000 a day to simulate handling some of the hotter cars. The accessories, shop stuff, floor stuff for your shop, I mean, it’s really an experience. And I thought, well, $500 is a lot of money to spend. But when you think about all of the stuff that you can see and do there, and, of course, you don’t want to go there. If you have to ask how much it costs, it’s one of those things. Don’t go. You have to ask how much it costs. You don’t want to go. Yeah, you’re right. And then… And then there’s a lot of money floating around there, a lot of trophy wives, trophy girlfriends, et cetera. Oh, yeah. We sat next to a guy with a group, and his buddy was a billionaire, self-made again. And they had been going there every year for about 20 years. But it hits you. If you’re into cars, it’s really an experience.
SPEAKER 10 :
Buck, I’ve even said that even if you aren’t into cars, but you just want to go and experience something that’s different than you would normally find, you like watching people and events and so on, and they’ve got great food, as you know, by the way, as well. They’ve got everything from lobster sandwiches, lobster roll sandwiches, to whatever you can think of there. And the reality of just the experience itself, even if you just went for a day, a Friday or a Saturday, and you’re not even a car person, I have had conversations with people there that were with someone else or they were the girlfriend of somebody else or whatever the case may be, where they are not car people and still had a blast.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, my wife is not a car person, and she’s a man that she’d like to go back to.
SPEAKER 10 :
There you go. Point being. Yep. No, for anybody listening, Buck, thanks for calling back in and telling me. I will definitely be there next year. I missed this year because of other things going on with politics and so on, but I will definitely be there next year. And yeah, for all of you listening, it is an experience that you need to go to, period, no matter what. If you can afford to go and make that one of your bucket list items, Buck, it is definitely worth going to.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you for giving me the heads up. You’re very welcome, Buck. Because I would have been somewhat lost. And again, I want to reiterate, do some pre-planning on it. About a month before you go, start thinking about how you’re going. We had our motel. Get all that and get your…
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, you bring up something interesting, Buck, and I’m going to add to that. For a lot of you listening, if you just go to Barrett-Jackson and sign up for their newsletters and stuff, they will start helping you, Buck, do some pre-planning on that months in advance even. I mean, literally, they will start sending some things out in about October. for the Scottsdale one. And they do three of these a year and they’ll start telling you what’s coming up and what you need to do. And so Scottsdale, of course, I think being one of the bigger ones that it’s very enjoyable, but they do them around the country, three different ones, I believe. And in, and it’s a, again, for all of you listening, just go to Barrett Jackson and sign up and get on the newsletter.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hmm. Good idea. Yeah. Uh, but, uh, I probably used up as much of your time as I should. No, you’re fine, Buck.
SPEAKER 10 :
I appreciate the report back. It’s awesome. No, thank you, thank you. You’re the man. I’ll let you go. Appreciate you very much, Buck. And, Tony, you are next. We might run out of time here, top of the hour, but let’s get started at least. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I wanted to talk to you about, you know, that guy was talking about salt and all that stuff on the bottom.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, Jerry was, yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, you think it’s necessary to use a pressure washer, or can you just do it with a garden hose?
SPEAKER 10 :
Anything you can do to get that rinsed off is best. If you’ve got the ability and you’re close by one of the even touchless car washes where they’ve got the underbody spray, if you’ve got the ability and you can go through one of those after a storm, I would recommend that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and if you’re doing it at home with a pressure washer, if you’ve got a big enough pressure washer, they sell a deal that’s got wheels on it, and you hook it up to the pressure washer and you just roll underneath it, and it’s really slick. It works really well, especially if you’re going to work on it or something too.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I saw those, but I was wondering, you know, 4,200 pounds is what they put out. That seems like an awful lot.
SPEAKER 06 :
Probably in the car wash, that’s probably about what they’re at anyway. Yeah, you’re probably 3,000.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, it depends. I mean, most of those are variable, so it depends on what you’re doing. I mean, you get some of the touchless ones where they’re really doing the scrub cycle, I guess you could call it. Yeah, they’re probably in that range or above. Typical rinse cycle, they’re probably 2,500 to 3,000 PSI. I mean, your typical homeowner’s unit is going to be 1,800 to 2,200 PSI typically is what you’re going to have at home.
SPEAKER 06 :
And that roller deal, too, if you get one that’s wider, it’s dispersed less on each jet. So if it has six jets on it compared to four, you’re going to be, yeah. Great point, Ken.
SPEAKER 04 :
I’ve been going to the coin-operated car wash, but they take a ton of quarters to do it. They don’t have them set up to take credit cards, you know.
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s an old school one, if that’s the case. Most of the ones around here, they have upgraded into, you know, credit card or even a monthly wash club or whatever.
SPEAKER 06 :
But, yeah, anything you can do, yeah, definitely helps. I mean, even if just the pressure washer and your regular wand under there. Because typically, as you’re driving through it, it’s not going to collect in the middle, so to speak. Mostly underneath the wheels. It’s more in your fender wells and on your outer sides there.
SPEAKER 10 :
Along the frame rails, all that kind of stuff.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 04 :
Do you have time for a question about cordless tools?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes. You know what? Let’s do this, though. I’m at the top of the hour. I’m going to leave you on hold for just a moment, Tony. Don’t go anywhere. You’ll hear the news here at the top of the hour. We’ll have plenty of time when we come back that way. Those of you listening, we have openings 303-477-5600. Also, remember, you can text us, and I apologize. I’ll check the text line here in a moment, 307-477-5600. 282.22. Myself, Mark Guernsey from Accountable up in Broomfield with us today. Ken Rackley from TuneTech over in Aurora. Charlie Grimes, of course, our engineer. Larry Unger answering phones. We’ll be right back. Hour number two for Drive Radio is next right here on KLZ 560.
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