In this engaging episode, the Drive Radio crew explore cutting-edge solutions like colored PPF to protect and enhance your vehicle’s aesthetic. Learn how innovative techniques can save you from costly repairs and preserve your car’s value over time. Whether pondering over an old Chevy or considering an upgrade to your car’s exterior protection, this episode provides invaluable insights.
SPEAKER 23 :
Being an expert on general automotive knowledge, what would the correct ignition timing be on a 1955 Bel Air Chevrolet with a 327 cubic inch engine and a four-barrel carburetor?
SPEAKER 20 :
It is a trick question. Watch this. A Chevy didn’t make a 327 in 55. The 327 didn’t come out till 62. And it wasn’t offered in the Bel Air with a four-barrel carb till 64. However, in 1964, the correct ignition timing would be four degrees before top dead center.
SPEAKER 03 :
Get ready for another hour of Drive Radio, brought to you by Colorado’s select auto care centers. Got a question for the experts? Then give them a call, 303-477-5600. Now it’s time to pop the hood and get our hands dirty. Drive Radio on KLZ 560 The Source.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, and we are back. Hour number two, Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Appreciate you all listening. Larry Unger, of course, answering phones today with us today and screening calls and so on. Charlie Grimes, of course, our engineer. We have Roy and Dietze from ProTech Auto Shield over in Wheat Ridge, and Josh from Legacy Automotive and Ridgeline Auto Brokers. Three locations to serve you, one Boulder, one Fort Collins, one Longmont as well. And you can find any of our partner sponsors, whether it’s Roy, Josh, whoever, just go to drive-radio.com, drive-radio.com. Okay, Bob, before we get into some questions I’ve got for Roy and Dietze, go ahead, Bob.
SPEAKER 15 :
Hi, John. Thanks for taking my call.
SPEAKER 08 :
You’re welcome.
SPEAKER 15 :
Hey, I’ve talked to you several times, but over the last couple months, I’ve learned more than I ever really wanted to know about my 09 Chevy truck, 6-liter. Um, so about two months ago, I come home and when I was getting ready to put it in the garage, I heard like a chirping noise and I thought, all right, that’s weird. So I replaced the, um, tensioners, both the tensioners on the front of the motor that didn’t do it. Took it to a shop, and he checked it. He says, oh, it’s the water pump. He replaced the water pump. He said, nope, not the water pump. My fault. Didn’t charge me for it. So I took it to another shop, and this wasn’t one of your member shops. This was just another shop in Lakewood. And the guy comes out, and he says, yeah, my mechanic knows what that is. He’s heard it before. You’ve got rods going out. We can replace it with a Jasper motor to the tune of $11,200. And I thought, huh. You know, and I’m not a mechanic, but I’ve helped build motors. And I know what motors sounded like, at least older ones, when rods go out. And it didn’t sound like that. It was a chirp. So I called a mechanic that’s a friend of mine. I’ve known him for over 40 years. And he comes, stopped by the house. He says, start it up. It ran for about three seconds. He said, shut it off. And he says, that’s not a rod. He says, you’ve got lifters went to heck.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
So he says, Bobby says, let me do some research. He called me back and he says, yeah, evidently, Bobby says there’s like 180,000 of those six liter motors. He says that the lifters are failing. He says, and it’s not a bearing. He says it’s lifters. He says, we’ll pull the manifold off of it, pull the heads off. He says, put some Johnson lifters back in there. We’ll be good to go. What do you think of all this?
SPEAKER 08 :
And the Johnson’s a good lifter, by the way, so I don’t have any issues with that. I’m sorry. I’m trying to do more than one thing at once all the time. How many miles? I think I missed that, Bob.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, I didn’t even tell you. It’s got like 94,000. Okay, so you’re 94K. Does it use any oil?
SPEAKER 08 :
No. No. Has anybody bothered, because before I would do anything with it, I would pull a couple of spark plugs. In fact, I’d pull them all. The camera systems are so cheap now that if somebody doesn’t have one, you could buy one and give it to them because they’re that inexpensive. I’m not exaggerating. I would then have a tech look, you know, bore scope basically inside each chamber. What do things look like on the bottom of the head? What do the side of the cylinders look like? Do we still have some cross-hatching left, or is all that gone, and are they super shiny? In other words, where I’m going with this is if we’ve got – No cross-hatching left. Everything’s super shiny. We’ve got carbon buildup on the bottom of the valves and so on. I wouldn’t do a cam in it. I would look at a long block at that point.
SPEAKER 15 :
Really? Okay, yeah. We wasn’t even going to do a cam if it’s not scored or that. We were just going to replace the lifters.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh. I’ve never – this is just me talking. I’m going to get Josh’s opinion on this. But I have never been one to just do lifters and see that work long-term. Can you do that, and will it work temporarily? I mean, could you do it, flip the vehicle, get it sold, get rid of the noise? Sure you could. Would I do that on my own personal vehicle long-term? I absolutely would not.
SPEAKER 09 :
If you’re not going to keep it another 100,000 miles, then don’t do the cam.
SPEAKER 08 :
Fine.
SPEAKER 09 :
Go for it. Yeah, throw it together. But if you’re going to try and keep it, you need to do the cam. Correct.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I want to keep it, but I don’t use it that much. I’m lucky if I put 15,000 miles a year on it. And I’m at that age where I don’t know how much longer I’m going to even be driving this thing. So, but is it, you know, now let me ask you this. I guess in order to put the cam in there, you pretty much have to drop, because it’s a four-wheel drive, you have to drop that whole front axle to be able to drop the oil pan to get down to the oil pump, even as you’re replacing the cam. Is that right?
SPEAKER 09 :
No. We can usually sneak it out. Yeah, you can. Radiator condenser just because there’s not enough room. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Really? But again, it comes back down to literally for the amount of time it takes to work around it versus that particular vehicle, the time it takes to pull it and just do it on the ground. It’s probably a toss up at the end of the day, Bob. I’m not exaggerating when I say that.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, because cams are actually cheap. I mean, they’re not… Oh, yeah, they’re not bad.
SPEAKER 08 :
And no offense, at 90K, I’d want to put a timing chain and everything in it anyway. So you’re at that point where on a… Basically, it’s a small block Chevy. I know it’s not really, but it is. Same basic design. And before somebody sends me a big old long email criticizing me of that and telling me that, no, they’re not the same, the same basic design is still there. It still has a timing chain in front. Yes, they do last longer than what… The original small block chains would, but you’re basically at 100,000 mile on the engine. I would be looking at it a little bit differently personally.
SPEAKER 15 :
Gotcha. Gotcha. All right. We’ll do that then because, you know, I just assume if that timing chain, if it’s about at the end of its rope, I just assume go ahead and do that and not have to go through this again.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, well, you know, next question. Anybody listening always knows I want to ask this anyway, so I might as well. Rest of the truck, really great shape. Everything else works. It’s good. Paint, everything. I mean, is it a really decent truck outside of that?
SPEAKER 15 :
It’s a really beautiful truck. Yeah, didn’t fix it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, it’s got an eight-foot bed. It’s black on black.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, it’s a real pretty truck. And I like it. You know, it’s an 09. It’s an old truck, but it serves my purpose. It pulls a boat up to the lake, and that’s my main purpose.
SPEAKER 09 :
And my thing is, you know, between putting cams and lifters and everything, like John said earlier, price a motor because it’s always about a wash. By the time we do cams, lifters, pull the heads off, everything correctly, it’s almost the same price as putting a new motor in the truck. So run the numbers on both.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. When you say a new motor, would that be through GM? Because I’ve heard bad things about Jasper.
SPEAKER 09 :
I’ve had luck with Jasper, you know, but GM2, you know, that’s a good motor, too. So, you know, they’re both kind of in the same price range. And I’ve had, I mean, I’ve had luck with, good luck with Jasper. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. I mean, yeah, this one really does come down to, you know, personal preference. Some have had really good luck. Now, you personally cannot buy a Jasper engine without going through some sort of an authorized dealer. As a regular just individual, unless you’ve got a fleet shop or something along those lines, you cannot buy from them.
SPEAKER 15 :
Gotcha. Gotcha.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. They have authorized installers and so on. Am I right, Josh? Last I checked, you couldn’t buy a direct retail engine, right? Okay. That’s what I thought.
SPEAKER 15 :
I’ll be darned. Well, that’s good to know.
SPEAKER 08 :
So now, and this is another one where you can look online. Do you want to, you know, on the GM side, because they’ve got their entire crate motor program. There are other, like the, I think they’re called, is it called, is it Blueprint? I can’t remember the name. They’re at all of the auctions and Siemens. Is it Bulletproof or Bull?
SPEAKER 09 :
That sounds about right.
SPEAKER 08 :
I can’t remember now. I’ve got to look it up, Bob. But there’s another great – it’s either Blueprint Engines or Bulletproof. I’ve got to look the name up. I apologize, folks. Usually I have this off the top of my head. But they’re a really good engine builder as well. Now, they’re going to do some things that are a little more specific. So you say, you know, I haul a boat at times. Okay, do you want a little extra horsepower? And if so, where do you want it in the power band at and, and, and? And if you’re going to go do a replacement engine at that point, well, then look at some of those things as well.
SPEAKER 15 :
Gotcha. Gotcha. You know, you guys are just the best. All of you together, especially, you know, it’s a wealth of knowledge, and I genuinely appreciate all of you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, thank you. Thank you, Bob. We appreciate that very much as well. And, yeah, it’s definitely a team effort. You guys know that. There are times where literally I will be the first to say this. I get a question from you all. And I sit here for a minute, and I look at some of the folks that are usually with me, whether it be Josh or any of the others that we have around us, Roy and others, and I usually look at somebody, and there’s times I might know the answer. There’s times I don’t know the answer. There’s times I’ll even tell you that I don’t, but I can find the answer, and then I’m usually texting somebody or asking a question at the same time. And I’ll do that even during the week. So that’s one thing else I should mention. A lot of you will have these kinds of questions even during the week. Do not hesitate to send a text message. 307-200-8222. We can always answer those. I get questions even on, you know, what Roy and Dietze do on PPF and ceramic coatings and all of that. I had somebody even this past week that I recommended, you know, just call Roy and Dietze and have them answer those things directly. But I get those questions all of the time and never feel bad about asking that. So, all right. I’ve got my own questions for Roy and Dietze. We’ll come back and do that in a moment. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Okay, we’ll just continue a conversation we were having during the break on right now because it’s a good question. And that is with the advent of colored PPF. And so for all of you listening, we say PPF, the old clear bra, whatever you want to call it. So paint protection film, that’s where PPF comes from. And now they’re making that colored. and I guess the question that I was throwing out to Josh, given he does a lot of used cars and things like that, so say you’re looking at reconditioning a car or maybe you’re taking, you know, people are listening and you want to take your own car and either spruce it up or sell it or do whatever, or you’re looking at a car to buy, and it’s got a lot of, I call it road rash on the front end. So somebody didn’t do some PPF originally, and so it’s got a bunch of, you know, wind, sandblasting, you know, the front end’s got a lot of chips in it. Let’s just say that. And somebody didn’t touch all those up and you can just, you know, even from 10 feet away, you can tell that car’s got a lot of road rash on the front. Can you take and do some touch up slash colored PPF and help that car look immensely better when it’s all said and done?
SPEAKER 24 :
Yes. And if you’re going to do that, I would recommend the colored PPF just because it’s going to last a lot longer than vinyl will. And like I was mentioning during the break, I did that with my car that I bought used and it had a lot of road rash on the front.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don’t know what else to call it. Road rash. I don’t know. It is what it is. That’s what I’ve always called it.
SPEAKER 24 :
Yeah, and I actually did it with clear PPF. So I did the touch-up, you know, the same color. And then we did the clear bra on top. And obviously, if you look it up close, you can see that it’s there.
SPEAKER 08 :
If you’re three or four feet away, you’re not going to notice it.
SPEAKER 24 :
Yeah, you can’t even tell.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. So for some of you listening where you’re thinking, well, I’ve got one I’d like to do something with, but I don’t want to paint the whole front end. You wouldn’t have to. You’ve got ability. ProTech, I should say, has the ability to help you with some of that to where you can spruce that vehicle up and make it look a lot better than what it does currently. And by the way, now you’ve got the added protection because it’s on there for that point from that point further.
SPEAKER 24 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. Now, when you say is something I’ve not even asked when I’ve been at the shop, I haven’t even asked to see color PPF, I guess next time over there, I’ll, I’ll do that. And I’ll ask to see what it looks like. How many shades or how many colors can you get?
SPEAKER 22 :
A lot.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right now there’s a lot. Really? There’s a lot. So it’s not just like the main colors you can get.
SPEAKER 24 :
No, and they have like Damascus. They have clear Damascus, black Damascus. They have just all kinds of colors. It’s become kind of like vinyl now.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, it’s becoming like vinyl. Really? Yeah. But now, I mean, you get the benefits of the PPF. Right. Which vinyl doesn’t have. Exactly, yeah. Vinyl is just vinyl. Vinyl is just vinyl, very thin. Well, depending of the vinyl.
SPEAKER 08 :
So somebody’s got a, we’ll use Josh as an example. He’s got a car that he potentially can buy, has a lot of road rash on the front. He knows he can get a higher price out of that car by getting it all spruced up, making it look good. He’s got the ability to take that color and can he darn near match it?
SPEAKER 24 :
I wouldn’t say match it, but get close. Yeah. There’s a lot of, there’s a lot of companies now out there with doing fashion film. Now you also got to keep in mind that depending on which one you get, you’re also talking about quality and.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, but you could theoretically, because painting the front end of a car is expensive. By the time you take that into collision center and they take all of the old off and do whatever they need to do, and I get all the prep work that goes into that and so on, by the time you’re all said and done, and Roy, you would probably know this better than anyone, but you take an average, we’ll take an average SUV, for example, and you’ve got to paint the nose of that car, so all of the bumper, the nose around the grille and so on, It’s a lot of money. What are you talking about?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, no, it’s a lot of money. Four grand, five grand? Probably more, yeah. Yeah, six.
SPEAKER 24 :
We did a quote on a Jaguar. It was a coupe. Okay. And it was through a shop that the customer wanted to repaint it because it was wrapped when he brought it to us. Okay. He had some hail damage, so we had to remove the wrap.
SPEAKER 18 :
Got it.
SPEAKER 24 :
And there was a lot of paint damage underneath.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 24 :
So the customer asked us to get him a quote for repainting it. And it was, if I remember correctly, it was upwards of $12,000 to repaint the whole thing.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. So it’s not cheap. No, it’s not cheap. So for some of you listening where you’re looking at, this is where I’m going with this, you’re looking at a used car even. You’re like, you know, it’s a really great car, but I can’t stand the way the nose looks because it’s just all road rash. We have the ability to help you with that where you might still be able to buy a really great mechanically sound. Of course, we always talk about getting that used car inspected and so on, but buying a really mechanically sound vehicle that might have a few cosmetic issues with it, those can be fixed is my point.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
You guys can go in there and dial in that end of things.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. And actually the car that she’s talking about, I mean, I remember we removed the vinyl and it was, I mean, the paint was damaged, scratches, everything.
SPEAKER 07 :
It was bad.
SPEAKER 11 :
And believe me, I mean, after we did, I mean, redo the wrap, it was a completely new car.
SPEAKER 08 :
Interesting.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Okay. I mean, it depends on the damage on the paint, talking about rock chips or deep scratches. Right. Yeah. But, man, that car, it was just, it made a difference after we rewrapped it.
SPEAKER 24 :
So, yeah, keep that in mind when you’re buying a used car. If it has vinyl wrap, you don’t know what’s underneath.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good point. That’s a great point as well. Double check to see what’s underneath.
SPEAKER 11 :
And I think you mentioned before, right, I mean, when you guys buy used cars, do you guys remove the wraps or something like that?
SPEAKER 09 :
We do, especially the clear brawl up front because what we’re buying, it’s all yellowed and starting to flake. Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Because they’re using, I mean, they were using probably all technology and cheap stuff.
SPEAKER 09 :
And the problem is it must be acidic or something because sometimes it seems to, not just the fact of the UV, but like it kind of leaches this yellow into the.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, because the PPF, I mean, the yellowing is caused by the adhesive on the PPF. But now new technology, it got better. Okay. And then it has some, like they call it top coat. You know what I mean? On the PPF, that prevents for UV and yellowing.
SPEAKER 24 :
Talking about that yellowing, on white cars, when you put a dark-colored vinyl, sometimes the dye seeps through, and it kind of stains the white, but if you leave it out in the sun, it clears up.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, okay. All right, good to know. Dennis in Littleton, you’re next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 12 :
Hello.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hey, Dennis.
SPEAKER 12 :
Can you hear me all right? Yes, sir. I’m having trouble. The starter the other day was running all right. It’s a 218 Silverado.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I don’t know. I pull in the grocery store, small incline, you know. It seems like it’s putting the brakes on. It almost stops all the way. And then when I make tight turns, it does that in the parking lot. I don’t know, like even when I back up, sometimes it’s like you’re putting the brake on.
SPEAKER 08 :
And we don’t have it in four-wheel drive. Emergency brake’s not on. We don’t have any issues there, Dennis? No.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, I haven’t checked all that. It’s on two-wheel drive.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, so it’s on two-wheel drive, and we for sure don’t have anything e-brake-wise stuck on because what happens sometimes is if that cable gets rusty and so on, you can sometimes apply it, and even though we’ve released it, we’ve let it go, it may still be engaged.
SPEAKER 12 :
I never use it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
I just don’t use it as long as it’s in park, you know. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 12 :
That’s good enough for me. I never used it since I had it. Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
Do you drive the truck a lot?
SPEAKER 12 :
Maybe somebody stepped on it. You never know.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and how many miles are on the truck? 133. 133. Yeah, because these, you know, the parking brakes on this should be the shoes inside the rear disc brakes. And sometimes if it sits a lot, so I don’t know if you’re driving all the time, but they will kind of rust in place and cause a lot of drag too on those.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, it sits a lot.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, that could be it, too. That’s what I would have it looked into is, you know, take it into somebody, and they’ll know, they’ll put it up in the air and be able to tell what the rolling resistance is on all those wheels. Right away. And they’ll go chasing that. And that’s what I have had with these trucks, especially if they sit where they’re in kind of a wet climate, you know. And if you tow a boat, there’s usually all the guys who put boats in the water all summer long. We see this all day.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, it sits in the garage, though, you know. What was I going to say? It’s okay to drive it to… Sure.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I wouldn’t see any issues with that. Absolutely, yeah. And Geno’s over there can look at that for you, Dennis.
SPEAKER 12 :
Where, Geno’s?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, Geno’s can do that for sure.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I’m not too far from him.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, just take it over to Steve and the guys. They’ll take care of you.
SPEAKER 12 :
Appreciate it.
SPEAKER 08 :
You bet, Dennis. Nope, thank you very much as well. Tyler, Mick, you guys hang tight. We’ll come right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 08 :
All right. We are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Thanks for joining us today. I appreciate it very much. Tyler in Indianapolis, Indiana. What’s going on?
SPEAKER 17 :
Hey, I called in about three weeks ago about a 2007 Toyota Tundra about a couple hundred miles after getting my oil changed. I didn’t have oil pressure. Right. And I’ve got a resolution. So I wanted to call back in.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, perfect. Perfect. Yes.
SPEAKER 17 :
So the advice was to take a look at my receipt and check the oil weight and the filter, make sure all that was correct. I found the receipt. Everything seemed to be on the up and up, but I still wasn’t going to drive it to the shop. So I got it towed in, and the tech called and said, it’s pretty simple. It was the oil change shop. When they took the oil filter off, There’s a support pin in the housing, apparently. Probably fell on the floor, and they didn’t put it back in, and it just crushed my oil filter.
SPEAKER 09 :
It’s pretty common. Napa actually stocks those because there’s two different lengths, and they actually stock them at the store all the time. And we usually keep one on the shelf anymore, it seems like.
SPEAKER 17 :
Good news is the oil change… uh chain shop that’s paying for all of it including towing okay that’s good at least they stepped up that’s good yeah yep just want to let you guys well that’s good no i’m glad we got some resolve that’s what it’s all about so since you’re an indie tyler do you go the 500 every year yeah you should uh i would encourage everyone to come out to the indie 500 you really can’t There’s no way you can have as much fun in one day than you do at the Indy 500. I agree.
SPEAKER 09 :
Isn’t it like an official state holiday?
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, for sure. I think we’re about… Let me see. If I had to guess, so today is March… We should be around 83 days to the race. Not that we’re keeping track.
SPEAKER 08 :
Not that we’re keeping track. No, it is a great event. And I went as I was in my teens. I haven’t been back. I need to go again. But it is, to your point, Tyler, it is the greatest spectacle in motor racing, and it’s very true. Yeah, it is.
SPEAKER 17 :
It’s also the greatest spectacle in drunk people watching.
SPEAKER 08 :
In people watching, yes. I was going to say that next. Absolutely. Definitely. And I am sure over the years that’s gotten better or worse. I don’t know how you want to say that.
SPEAKER 09 :
It’s gotten better. Okay. It’s been worse. Okay. The crowd has been nicer than in the past, I would say.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s good to know. No, it is. It’s like Barrett-Jackson, Tyler. It’s one of those things everybody needs to do at least once. Yeah, or once a year. Or every year. Every year. Yeah, absolutely. Very cool.
SPEAKER 09 :
See you there.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, Tyler, thank you very much. I appreciate it. Yeah, that’s your stomping grounds. Yeah, it is. That’s where you’re from. So Mick in Westminster, you’re next.
SPEAKER 14 :
Hey, John and company. Yeah. Excellent day to lay a wax job on the car. I’m doing that and giving you guys a shot. All right. We appreciate it. I’m pretty good at multitasking in some ways, if it’s not over two. That was cool. Your show makes me flash back on stuff. That guy just with Indy 500. I grew up with my dad. He was a carpenter, and he did contract work, and he was working out at Lowry Hill Lowry redoing a handball court. And this was during, was it a Sunday they were on Indy? Uh-huh. Saturday. He was doing some OT, you know, just a one-guy contractor. And we were listening at that time. That’s how old I am. You know, you had the Andretti’s, the Jones, Pernilla Jones, the Foyts, people like that just doing. And that’s something, man. Some of the stuff that got me really hooked is the gearhead, motorhead. But along the same lines, I kind of get to thinking, mine was wandering, myth or truth, truth or dare, is there any legitimacy to the old bromide with car trannies, buying a used car that some people could fudge the tranny condition by adding sawdust into the box?
SPEAKER 08 :
Old, old days, yes. Haven’t seen that for years, though, Mick.
SPEAKER 14 :
That legitimately would… It seemed like, boy, that stuff would pull up in there and just bind up and… It’d be too much resistance, but people could actually get by with that for a while.
SPEAKER 09 :
They could get to the test drive around the block.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and I will just say this. In all the years of being in the industry, and I started in the mid-’70s, I’ve personally never, ever, ever seen that. I’ve heard about it. You heard wives’ tale stories about it way back in the day. But honestly, Mick, in all of the years of being around vehicles throughout my entire career, I’ve never seen it.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s what I was wondering. I wanted to talk to wrenches that had maybe seen… somebody fail out on the gear.
SPEAKER 08 :
Now, I’ve seen over the years a lot of other things that you would shake your head at as to what people tried to do to get vehicles down the road and sold and different patchwork things and so on. So, yeah, I’ve seen all sorts of things along those lines. I mean, even back in the day, you’d see people do all sorts of crazy things like adding 90 weight to the oil to get the pressure up and things like that. Yeah, those I’ve actually experienced back in the day, Mick.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, that’s interesting. Were they doing that to compensate for loose gaskets and seals?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, back in the day, everything from loose oil galleys, bearings, things like that, that’s what caused low oil pressure on a lot of those older engines. And, yeah, they’d do anything they possibly could to stiffen the oil up to get it sold.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, that’s interesting. Yeah, I just, like I said, got to thinking, yeah, my dad kind of held that. I remember one or two views that my dad actually – Actually, it was kind of after he bought the car, but he’d actually – he was going to change – he always changed the oil anyway, but it’s fresh, fresh new stuff. And he’d look through the old – He’ll drain stuff and see if he saw any floating crud that wasn’t metal shavings or resembled a snogging.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and, you know, you bring up a great point, Mick. To me, that’s why they’re talking through the brakes even of, you know, do you take your car to the dealership or do you go to a regular independent shop to get your oil changed? Or in some cases, do you do it yourself? And I will just tell you that. Over all of the years of changing oil and personally doing it and still do my own at home, that is one of the things that a good seasoned technician will always do. I mean, for me personally, you just, I don’t know, it’s habit, I guess, over all these years. Even on a newer vehicle, I still will have the oil run across my finger. I’ll still look inside the pan. I still feel what does the oil look like, smell like, feel like, shine a flashlight on it. Is there metal in it? I mean, these are things that seasoned techs look at that I hate to say. The average quick lube person has no idea what I just said.
SPEAKER 09 :
and you got to realize a seasoned tech, we don’t just use our eyes. Like we can smell it. Yeah. Whether a car’s running bad, all our senses. And sometimes once it don’t exist, it feels like to solve it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh yeah. Yeah. That totally makes sense. Yeah. You’d, You know, you’re looking for telltale signs, alteration, decomposition of the grade, whatever fluid is. Yeah, I totally understand it. I appreciate it. Like I said, my mind got to wander.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I appreciate it. No, great call. No, I appreciate that very much, Mick. No, thank you.
SPEAKER 14 :
And I tell you what, guys. Appreciate you. When you guys knock off for the show, I’ll leave a patch of waxing for you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. I appreciate you. Thanks, Mick. No, and folks, this is where, you know, I know we talk about it a lot, and I know I sound like sometimes a broken record when it comes to having any vehicle you’re looking at. We talk about this a ton, but Josh, you know, Bridge Not Auto Brokers, sells cars. And I can’t tell you how important it is a must in the state of Colorado. There is no such thing as a post-purchase inspection. I mean, yeah, you can get them done, but the findings are, okay, here it is. You’re not going to do anything with that. It is what it is at that point. You’ve bought the car. You own it. You have to do a pre-purchase inspection.
SPEAKER 09 :
It’s an owner’s inspection after you purchase it.
SPEAKER 08 :
That’s right. Some of the things that we’re talking about in a lot of cases can be found during… The pre-purchase, for example, you’re pulling – every technician, at least I always did when you did a pre-purchase, you’re looking at all the food levels, including the oil itself. You’re pulling it. You’re doing the sniff test, the flashlight, what’s in it, and has it been recently changed? And if it has, well, is that good or bad? And on and on we go, and you’re looking at all these different things as you’re doing that pre-purchase. It’s not just – You know, how should I say this, Josh? You know, eyeballing the whole underside of the vehicle and looking for leaks and things like that, it is literally looking at how has this vehicle been maintained? Can I see any Royce case? Can I see any body damage that’s happened in the past? Does it have any rust? Have I seen any places where it looks like something’s been fixed? On and on we go. These are things that, and by the way, this is where I don’t think you can do a proper pre-purchase in a driveway. You have to get it on a lift. You cannot look at all of these things in the drive. Myself, as good as I am at knowing cars and all of that, I can get all the upper side done, but there’s no way I can look at the underside of the vehicle, even crawling around on a piece of cardboard or your belly or whatever. You just can’t see everything necessary until it’s up in the air. Am I correct? You’re very correct.
SPEAKER 04 :
You just can’t see it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Ken and Bertha, you’re next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, so I have a 2019 Nissan Rogue, and I hear they are notorious, Nissan Rogues are, for that front-end crash sensor giving you this dash error. And they tell me to get someone to recalibrate it, fix it and recalibrate it. It can easily be $3,000. So I’m just saying, hey, advice here, please, because I’ve replaced it twice. It does nothing.
SPEAKER 09 :
But you haven’t calibrated after you replaced it, right?
SPEAKER 04 :
Correct. I can’t. I don’t know how to. I don’t think I can. And they said it could be the software. But I was bumped in the rear end right before it happened.
SPEAKER 09 :
But it’s the front sensor that’s acting up?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, it doesn’t tell you.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. So that’s when, you know, for us, you know, we have a factory-level scan tool, so I can get in and actually see what that sensor sees. I can calibrate it, and I can reflash it if it needs it. But how I start is I get in first thing on these and see what fault it has in it and decide whether it’s just a calibration error or it’s a bad part. You know, we can go from there.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh. See, the windshield cracked, and I had to have that replaced, and they couldn’t do that. They could just tell… I think they thought it was the front, but that was the extent of it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, especially if they replaced it. Did it happen, like, right after the replacement or about that same time that you started getting the air?
SPEAKER 04 :
What happened… So what happened, the car was bumped in the rear end. Not much of anything, but, like, three days later, the windshield split, you know, and they don’t attribute it to the accident. You know, you got to go do it yourself.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
So I brought it in and got a new windshield, but that sensor… I think had already come up. They didn’t know if they could do the windshield because of the error. So, yeah, so the error was already there.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. Yeah, I’ve had a lot of issues with, you know, especially the front-facing sensor on the windshield going out or being out of calibration on those, and it will give you errors all the time.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, how about the one that’s in the bumper? This is right in front of the hood latch.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, for the active radar crews?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, that’s the one.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, those can be off too. That’s usually a radar on those, and we can calibrate that too. But the first step is just to see what’s going on with it, you know. So our first step is always pulling codes and seeing, you know, is it just a calibration error or is it actually there’s damage, the sensor’s loose, or, you know, just needs to be readjusted because those actually you can adjust them up and down and all that. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
So that’s the difference between 300 and 3,000. Somebody that knows how to, that’s done it before. Oh, yeah. Is that what you’re saying?
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. And the difference is, you know, what parts does it need? If it needs that sensor, then you’re in the 3,000. If, you know, it just needs a calibration, you’re in the 300. So that’s the thing is we need to know what, you know, parts it needs first and if it does need parts. So that’s how you get that numbers. Calibration, probably in the $300 range. Needs a part, 3,000. If it is the 3,000…
SPEAKER 04 :
You have to do it to pass inspection though, right?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, you shouldn’t have to do it for emissions.
SPEAKER 04 :
Because I’ve got that… You know, triangle on my dash because of, you know, on a lit up.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, but you should be OBD2, not an IM240 test on a 2019. So they shouldn’t need to. It’s usually only when you run it on what we call the dyno, the IM240 test, that you need to have the brakes work and all that because they’re literally going to run the car up to 60 miles an hour. Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
So they’re going to ignore that little triangle?
SPEAKER 09 :
They should ignore it because all they’re going to do is plug into it.
SPEAKER 08 :
They’ll even know that the code that’s there has nothing to do with the missions. Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, well, that’s good news. So I could bring it in, and if it’s $3,000, I could say, well, I’m not going to do it now kind of thing?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Is that right or no?
SPEAKER 09 :
It functions just doesn’t work anymore.
SPEAKER 04 :
What would it cost to diagnose then? What does a diagnostic cost roughly?
SPEAKER 09 :
Usually it’s about $150 for the diagnostic.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
And usually I kind of roll it into, you know, we’ll put that into it if it’s just a recalibration because I’m halfway there, you know, on that part of it.
SPEAKER 04 :
How much notice do you need? Because I live way north. So just tell me, what would you need? What would make it work for me?
SPEAKER 09 :
Right now, I need about a week’s notice before.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 04 :
And if I bring it in, how long could I stay there that day and it be done? Or would we be talking maybe more days?
SPEAKER 09 :
What we’d probably do is put you in a loaner car. Okay. Because sometimes you have to pull things apart to do the recal. And if it is a part… Then we could let you know. But the easiest thing is then we put you in a loaner car for the day.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. So I’ll wait and get your address again, okay? Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
Just call Legacy Automotive, 303-396-0555. Perfect. Thanks so much.
SPEAKER 04 :
I appreciate the help.
SPEAKER 08 :
Ken, thank you very much. We’ll be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 08 :
All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. And really quick, back to Ken on the whole calibration thing. And, yes, any of you guys that are driving most modern new vehicles, and what I mean by that is if it’s got lane departure, blind spot monitoring, lane keep assist. I mean, I can go down the list. You’re going to have to recalibrate when you do a windshield. Or when you replace a side view mirror. Or, Josh, what other? I mean, I can go down the list. I mean, there’s all sorts of things. You replace the bumper. You do any sensors, anything along those lines.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and most of them have a ton of sensors in the front bumper. So even the slightest bump, all of a sudden we’re replacing the ping sensor or the radar or something of that nature.
SPEAKER 08 :
So all of that has to be recalibrated any time something like that happens. Gary in Denver, you’re next.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, hi, John. How are you? I’m living the dream.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good for you.
SPEAKER 16 :
Um, this morning I went and got my brakes and my rotors replaced.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
And I’m, I’m very happy about that. And one of the things he insisted was that when I have that done that I also get the brake fluid replaced. Is that something you should do when you get your brakes and your rotors replaced?
SPEAKER 08 :
Typically, yes. Any more brake fluid, I would say, should be replaced every time you do that. That’s a little different than what we used to do back in the old days. I will just tell you that. In the old days, nobody ever did it. But I will be honest, Gary, back in the old days, master cylinders leaked. calipers leaked wheel cylinders leaked you were doing brake fluid replacements anyways just because you usually had a leak at some point in time that required it so you really didn’t do formal change outs since we now have a lot better components and we don’t have the leaks we once did yes we should be changing out the fluid okay i just i thought it was the right thing to do so i went ahead and did it perfect you’re fine hey i also you know um
SPEAKER 16 :
You know, I work for the federal government, so I’m an insider when it comes to everything that’s been going on. You know, Trump, or not Trump’s, Musk’s questions about what, list five accomplishments?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 16 :
And, you know, no big deal. I mean, who can’t, you know, summarize, you know, five accomplishments?
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you. How hard is that?
SPEAKER 16 :
I mean, in a week? I mean, you didn’t have five accomplishments? I mean, give me a break.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, Gary, my thought on that is, and I’ll talk about this probably more next week, but I will tell you as a business coach, and one of the things I’ll do with a lot of new clients especially is, That exact question. Not only are you as an owner, what are you doing each week, but what are your people doing as well? Because then as a coach, I can go in and start fine-tuning what are we doing, who’s doing what inside the business, where can we fine-tune things and make things more efficient and so on. It’s the fundamental of business, Gary.
SPEAKER 16 :
You’re right. And, you know, John, I was really – Sort of upset about all this, you know, this big, they’re getting ready to cut a lot of federal employees. And I was really upset because, you know, I might fall victim to that, even though I’m an outstanding performer, but I don’t have a lot of experience. You know, I only have 15 years experience. And I really had to, you know, get real and just tell myself, you know, there is a lot of employees that are not productive. And I may, you know, be part of the fallout. But it needs to be done.
SPEAKER 08 :
Honestly, Gary, I really think, and I’ve known you for years, I don’t think you’re the one they’re going after. It’s the others that you even know exist that aren’t doing anything, that can’t name five accomplishments this past week, that frankly blowed everything up and cost all of us money, including yourself. So at the end of the day, and I also feel this way, anybody that’s good at their job, whether they’re inside or outside of government, never has a problem finding another job.
SPEAKER 16 :
You’re right. So anyway, I know that’s not what this show is about.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, no, but you’re fine. It dovetails in because it applies to all of us. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right, I’ll let you go.
SPEAKER 08 :
Gary, appreciate you very much, man. Thank you for listening. He’s been faithful for, gosh, I’ve been talking to Gary for more than a decade, I think, on this program. So, Gary, thank you for being as faithful as you are. I’ve really grown to enjoy talking to you on a regular basis and appreciate you very, very much. So I really mean that. Okay. Before we go to break, people that are taking their car out now, maybe they’re deciding, hey, it’s a really beautiful day. Let’s take the car we’ve had out and storage. I think you’re a little early for that personally, but some may be thinking let’s pull things out. The season is starting. The season is starting. You know, car shows will start back up and all that stuff will start rolling around. So what do you guys recommend? I know we only got a couple of minutes. We can come back in the last hour. We can talk a little bit more. But what’s one of the first things you should do pulling that thing out on the cosmetic side? We’ll talk mechanical as well, but on the cosmetic side.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, just, I mean, just bring it to us.
SPEAKER 08 :
Besides taking it to you, yeah. Yeah, bring it to us.
SPEAKER 11 :
Give it a wash. And then we look at the pain and everything. We’ll tell you if you need some pain correction.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, for some of you guys, depending upon how you store it and where you store it and who’s been around it and have you… Some of you guys have barn cats and animals that might be crawling around on things and so on.
SPEAKER 11 :
Or a cheap car cover that I’m not very fond of.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and you might have a car cover. Again, you might have some of those critters that are floating around that are walking on the car and things along those lines. And if that’s the case, you may very well need to do a little bit of paint correction on some things because you’re probably… Well, not probably. You’re getting some damage done by what I just said.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. I mean, by washing the car, I mean, every week or two, whatever, you get some scratches here and there. And then we can help you with that. I mean, we do our ceramic coatings and all that. You maintain the… The clear, hotter. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
I’ll also say this. I’ll put a plug in for Roy and Dietzen, all those at Mike and everybody at ProTech, AutoShield. I had a really – I don’t get this very often, but I parked down here at the station, and there’s times where getting to the underground parking is not as easy as it might sound with my truck. So I typically park outside, and I got the nastiest of door dings, which I typically am really good at trying to find the right spot and get away from everybody and not have anything happen. You’re still around a bunch of people at times, and I’m not trying to be – rude here but this particular parking lot has a bunch of knuckleheads in it that aren’t very inconsiderate of those they park next to somehow anyways i got some big oh huge nasty door ding in the left rear door of my truck that was it was deep and some way somehow you guys were able to had to remove the door but some way somehow you guys were able to take that dent out and we didn’t do any any body work or any paint work whatsoever
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, we had to take it apart, I remember.
SPEAKER 08 :
You guys did a great job. Pulled the dent out. Came out beautiful. And it was right on the crease on that line going down that body of a Chevrolet truck and right on the edge. And you guys did a great job. And those are the hardest ones to take out, by the way.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And now the season is starting. I mean, we’re going to start getting some hailstorms pretty soon. So think about us.
SPEAKER 08 :
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