Join Dr. Scott Faulkner on today’s Health and Wellness Wednesdays, where he explores the compelling world of stem cells with expert Donald Hudspeth. Broadcast live from Denver, this engaging episode provides valuable perspectives on public versus private cord blood banking. As the duo delves into the challenges faced by the healthcare system, they discuss promising new medications and how they are being utilized to tackle Alzheimer’s. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the intersection of technology, innovation, and medicine.
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Welcome listeners. You’re actually listening to Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John Rush on this beautiful Wednesday here in Denver, Colorado. 560-KLZ. If you want to join the show, feel free to call me, 303-477-5600. That’s 303-477-5600. Or you can find us on RushToReason.com. This entire three hours will be posted later this evening after it gets sliced and diced and cleaned up. So if you’re driving and you hear something that’s very compelling and I promise you over the next three hours, I’m going to give you brand new breaking news that you’ve never heard anywhere else over the next three hours. But if you can’t listen, then you can go to the 560KLZ website, Rush to Reason, and listen to this so that you don’t have to try and pull over or crash your car and write things down. We’re going to be talking about stem cells for the first hour. So a lot of longtime listeners remember when I was very first on hosting for John. It’s well over a year now. And I had a guest by the name of Donald Hudspeth. And Donald is from down in Florida, a friend of mine, and he’s an expert in the stem cell world. So so much has happened over the last year. This is taking the world by storm. We’re now talking about as doctors, not so much your regular doc in the box, but those of us that think outside of the norms. I just got back, Judy and I did, from A4M. What does A4M stand for? That’s the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine. So it’s a lot of like-minded doctors who are getting sick and tired of doing the traditional stuff. And looking at diseases and saying, wait a second, we’re getting so good. And especially with AIs, AI gets really ramped up in the medical space. It’s going to aid your provider in treating your illness or your genetic predisposition, your epigenetics. at an infancy stage so that we can correct these problems so that you don’t get Alzheimer’s down the road, so that you don’t have a heart attack, so you don’t have a stroke. Maybe we all just die because we got run over by a bus. But there’s so many different things that we can do, and A4M is leading that charge. person had called in and said, where can I get information of like-minded doctors like yourself? And in the second hour, I’m going to talk to you. John got a text message from one of the longtime loyal listeners who asked the question, where do I find somebody like you? Well, the short answer is there’s only one of me. So you can always call my office at 303-663-6990, castlerockregenerativehealth.com. and talk to me in fact yesterday there was a young lady from cheyenne wyoming who she cannot find a provider in a timely fashion or that will even address her issues and i’m in castle rock colorado so those of you who are listening who don’t know the colorado geography well well cheyenne is at the bottom of wyoming then you have to go through fort collins you have to go you know past longmont and windsor you have to go through north denver central denver south denver all the way to me And this young lady is so desperate she’s calling me in Castle Rock. And, yes, of course, I’m going to help her. But that’s how broken our system is. But that will be in the next hour. And I’ll address that gentleman’s text to John specifically. We will be talking about the controversy in the GLP-1 space. Those of you who don’t know what GLP-1 is, that’s the semaglutide, the terazeptide, and now the retatrutide. There’s a lot of hubbub. Don’t panic. I still have it. I can still get it. I know a lot of your providers are going to want to try and convince you that you need to change. Why? Because the industry has really clamped down on anybody providing this. I have my ways of getting you that same medicine that you’re used to. So we’ll talk about that in the second hour, the third hour, as well as in the second, I’m going to tease this. There is a new medication that has come out under compassionate use. It’s been through a couple of clinical trials through the IND investigational new drug phase, but it is specifically for Alzheimer’s dementia. Okay. And you heard me talk the last time I was on saying that all the studies from Big Pharma, all their drugs that they were promoting cause cerebral edema, which is swelling of your brain, and hemorrhage or bleeding in the brain. So all those drugs from Big Pharma do not work. Well, I told you, I just got back from the A4M conference, and there is a medication that I have been approved to be an investigational physician for. that is reversing mild, moderate, and severe dementia. Yes. So again, if you’re driving, don’t try and write this down. I’ll talk to you more about it in the second and the third hour. You can call my office and get more information at Yes, there’s a consultation. I’ll go through the whole thing. I guess the first question you’re going to ask is, does insurance cover it? And the short answer is no. So there’s that. But we’ll talk about that longer. Right now, I want to introduce my good friend, Donald Hudspeth. They’re in Florida, who, like I said, is an expert in stem cells. And so we’re going to spend this next hour because there’s a lot of… Lack of information, good quality information on which stem cells are the best, how do we get them, how do we deliver them, the whole nine yards. So here’s my disclaimer for those of you from the FDA. What Donald and I are going to talk about and what I’m going to talk about the next three hours if I do talk about stem cells is the FDA has not approved these cells. on the regenerative side. They have been proved for over 30 years on the blood cancer side, leukemia, lymphoma, myeloma, right? But when I use them on the regenerative side, these have not been proved yet. Now, there is an IND ongoing that’s an investigational drug. That’s the first step for the FDA to finally approve these down the road. It costs a lot of money, a lot of time. But I don’t want a phone call from the FDA saying, hey, you forgot to put out the disclaimer because I just did. So Donald, welcome.
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Thank you, Dr. Scott. Good to be with you.
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Great. Thank you for being on the air with me. I didn’t fly you all the way out from Florida this time. I spared you that long, arduous airplane flight. No problem. So tell us a little bit about your background and your credentials so people realize that you are truly an expert, one of the foremost experts in this space.
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Sure. So I work for a biotherapy and cord blood bank company called Cord for Life here in the Orlando area of Florida. I’ve been here for 23 years, started working in the laboratory, actually handling the blood products, the cord blood products that came in, processing those to get those valuable cells and store and bank them for future use and transplantation. I’ve worked my way up through the ranks now and I’m now the general manager here and oversee our daily operations. We’ve got 14 full-time employees here, several of which, over half of which, are in the laboratory helping us to provide this service both to paying families that want to bank umbilical cord blood for themselves, but also for those who understand the value of cord blood in the stem cell’s in cord blood, but want to donate that for the better good of the entire world. So we do offer donation services to any mom, any parents that are about to have a baby that don’t want to privately store, but as long as they’re located within the lower 48 states, They sign up with us in time. They can donate that cord blood free of cost, and we can process that and make it available to those in need.
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Okay, so we need to drill down on that public versus private. So what I want to do is take a break. We’re about a minute early, but that’ll give you plenty of time when we come back out of the break. So that you can educate the public because a lot of folks, their doctors don’t know about this. They don’t know about it. They kind of hear some whispers. What does that really mean? So I want to give you ample time to explain it. So let’s go to a break right now. And when we come back from the other side, I want you to really dice this thing apart so people, there’s no doubt of what that means in their minds. Okay? So you’re listening to Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John Rush, 560 KLZ on Health and Wellness Wednesdays.
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Welcome back, listeners. You’re listening to Dr. Scott filling in for John Rush on this Health and Wellness Wednesdays. If you want to join us, 303-477-5600, 303-477-5600. If you have a question for me specifically, you can call the clinic at 303-663-6600. Sorry, I got that mixed up with John’s number. 303-663-6990 is our telephone number down in Castle Rock. So I have a good friend of mine, Donald Hudspeth, who is the manager of Cord for Life. Cord for Life is the second oldest tissue bank in the United States. Tissue bank, what does that mean? They deal with blood products, umbilical cord, stem cells, the whole nine yards. And Donald was going to explain to us the difference between public and private banking of birth mothers or the baby’s umbilical cord. So Donald, have at it.
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Thank you, Dr. Scott. So Historically speaking, many, many years ago, umbilical cord blood and the umbilical cord itself is something that once the baby was clamped and the cord was cut, it was discarded as medical waste. However, we slowly started to realize that still remaining within that cord tissue was this umbilical cord blood that was a treasure trove of stem cells. And stem cells are the cells that can become all the different cells within the body. So whether you’re talking about lung tissue or white blood cells or nerve tissue, that all comes from the first stem cells and then they slowly differentiate into all of these various types of cells and tissues within the body. And so it became obvious that these cells had a value we were already using and we have been for over 60 years, we being the industry. We’ve already using stem cells that have been aspirated from the bone marrow to provide transplantation, bone marrow transplants as they’re commonly called, for those who had blood cancers, leukemias, lymphomas, and anemias. And so we realized these very same cells in a much less mature state were present in cord blood, and we realized that value. And so 33 years ago, the very first cord blood transplant was performed where a newborn baby girl, her cord blood was collected and was used to treat her big brother who was, I think, five or six at the time. And he is still alive and doing well. And there’s just a wonderful success story. And so we realized that this really is a valuable commodity that we’d previously been throwing away. And so as we fast forward through the years, we realized that Just as you can bank peripheral blood, you go to the Red Cross, you donate blood, it gets banked for future use within the next couple of weeks. We realized that through cryogenics and cryopreservation that we could freeze these cells and then thaw them at a future date and they would still be viable, which means alive. They would still be functional, which means they can still differentiate into the various cell lines. they still secrete all the same proteins that a fresh brand new cell can do. And so we started seeing cord blood banking rise. It started out in the donation setting because they didn’t know exactly where all we could use these cells. We knew that we could do the bone marrow re-engraftment. And so people could donate their cord blood instead of having it thrown into the trash. And then it could go into a registry. So if you’ve ever been to a bone marrow drive, you get a cheek swab. That same organization now called the NMDP, formerly stood for the National Marrow Donor Program, they oversee all the transplants in the United States. And so cord blood to a bank such as ours that is a member of the NMDP, those cord blood samples are listed on that registry so that anyone in the world can search and find a match for their patient. And so the difference between public and private, so in the public setting, the moms can decide, you know, I want to donate this for the public good. There’s absolutely no cost to them. We provide them with the kit, all the collection instructions. We talk to their physician staff to make sure that the physicians know how to do the cord blood collection. We talk them through how to package it and get it back to us. We take care of getting that shipment back to the laboratory in a timely manner. But then it became evident that Some parents want to store this for themselves. So private cord blood banking started to arise, and there’s several companies around the country that do this, some on a much larger scale than we. But we provide this service to those parents who want to privately bank. So instead of this being listed with the NMDP for anyone in the world to use, Now the family has control over their sample, their baby sample. So again, originally, as recently as 10 years ago, the long-term concept was this would be used potentially to treat some sort of blood-borne cancer, leukemia, lymphoma, anemia, something of that nature. But as science has come forward, we realized that there are many, many other things that these wonderful cells can do. And so that makes more important decision for these parents to decide, do I want to pay for a fee and bank this for my family’s future potential use? Or do I want to publicly donate it to the betterment of mankind anywhere in the world? So that’s what we offer here is those two options. And of course, if you call into our Our client services staff, they will talk with you as long as you want about all the different options, how to to go about enrolling both as a donor or as a private banking client.
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OK, and that’s Cord for Life there in Altamont Springs or a suburb of Orlando, Florida, right?
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That is correct, yes. You can visit our website at cordforlife.com, or if you prefer to call in and speak to a person, you can call us at 1-800-869-8608.
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So people are driving, they’re listening to this right now, and they’re thinking, well, what is the downside? I mean, some people don’t have the money to do the private side, let’s face it. But on the public side, if you’re a mom and you’re going to have this baby and we’re going to throw that thing in the trash can, you could potentially save multiple lives using doctors like myself because this is what I order from your company and I treat numerous patients. I want to have a patient later on who will testify to her story, her private story. What’s the downside to doing the public –
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Help me. There really is not a lot of downside. There is no change in how the doctors and nurses are going to perform the delivery of the baby. There is minimal, if any, change in how they’re going to provide services to the mom. There are some maternal blood samples that need to be collected, but that is going to happen anyway when you go into the hospital immediately. to deliver your baby. So typically the nursing staff will piggyback these extra tubes onto their required blood draw, but outside of the potential, if that doesn’t get coordinated properly, outside of the potential of a second phlebotomy, there’s really no change to how your baby is delivered. In fact, we specifically tell the physicians who want to discuss the collection process that Don’t even worry about collection until the baby is born successfully, is clamped, and everything, mom and child both, are fully compatible. You know, there’s no issues that they need to take care of. And if there is, whether with the mom or the baby, we tell them, forget the cord blood. Just do what you need to do to take care of the mom and the baby. And in some small percentage of cases, that’s the case where they can’t collect the cord blood. But the collection actually is done after the normal delivery, so there’s no change in that delivery process. So there’s really no downside to it. We do get a lot of questions, especially over the last several years when there was a lot of controversy about cloning and, you know, Dolly the sheep and everything. We do get questions, well, what are you going to do with my baby’s cord blood? And I can certainly say that… While it perhaps can possibly be done scientifically, we certainly do not do anything even remotely related to cloning. Basically, all that we’re doing with this is we’re harvesting and isolating those valuable stem cells. So we’re going to get rid of all the excess red blood cells that are going to be in that collection that don’t have a true value in the transplant and therapy side. And we’re going to get rid of some of the plasma, which is the liquid part of the blood. And so we’re going to reduce that collection, which is typically around 125 milliliters of blood, reduce it down to a 25-mil concentration of all those valuable cells that now can be used for all these different things.
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Well, that’s fascinating. And that’s exactly right. That’s what I use these cells for, whether it’s arthritis in the knee or shoulder. Again, these are off-label uses to satisfy the FDA. But I use it intravenously for patients with multiple sclerosis, Lou Gehrig’s, Parkinson’s, dementia, a whole plethora of things. I mean, it’s almost endless of the things that we can use it for. And that’s one of the biggest questions I get is how can you take that baby’s stem cells over there and put it in me and you didn’t check my blood type or anything like that? I think you just answered the question because all the baby’s red blood cells are destroyed and what you’re left with is a stem cell.
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That’s correct. So there’s two different parts as to why that typically can be done. So yes, the first part is your typical transfusion style reaction. So I’m type O, but I’m going to be getting type A blood. How does it mix and match? Is there going to be a problem? Well, because all of the red cells that are in the stem cell product, the cord blood product, all those red cells are going to be removed during the processing. And so the product that the patient would receive virtually has no red cells. It’s so few red cells in comparison that there’s absolutely no concern over any sort of transfusion type reaction. And then the second potential reaction that you have in this sort of use, if you have a very, very large dose, which we would typically see in the case of bone marrow transplantation using cord blood, where they’re going to wipe out the recipient’s immune system and then they’re going to give a large, large dose of cells from sometimes even multiple cord blood units. We’re talking in the billions of cells here. Because that number is so high, there’s another type of typing called HLA. And so again, if you’ve ever gone to a bone marrow drive, for someone at your church or community, you hear, well, I’m not a match or the brother’s a match or whatever the case may be. And it’s the HLA typing that they’re actually talking about being a match. And so in this setting where you’ve got billions upon billions of cells given to a patient who’s been irradiated and their immune system has been ablated, you can have the cord blood, which is considered the graft, attacking the patient in what’s called graft versus host disease. But in these therapeutic settings where we’re talking about a much, much smaller dose of cells as well as volume of product, we go from several billion total cells to maybe 30 million total cells. And so now, again, the fact that it’s such a smaller number of cells, and the fact that the recipient does not have their immune system wiped out, that graft versus host disease is not going to be a problem as well. So that’s why we typically don’t have to do any sort of blood typing or HLA typing when we’re using these small dose therapeutics.
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That’s right. So we’re going to take a quick break. When we come back on the other side, I want to talk to you about good manufacturing practices. And because the public does not really fully appreciate that, most doctors don’t appreciate it because… Even today, I had a salesman come in trying to peddle cells from Wharton’s jelly, and I want you to explain what the FDA means by current good manufacturing processes and why this gentleman… I didn’t even give him the time of day. I just kind of kicked him out. But why his product most likely does not fit the FDA’s criteria. So when we come back, we’ll talk about that. You’re listening to Dr. Scott filling in for John Rush, 560 KLZ. We’ll be right back.
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That is correct, yes. These are adult or sometimes referred to as perinatal stem cells. We’re talking about fully developed. This doesn’t have to be a full term, but a healthy, delivered baby. This is not from fetal tissue in any way.
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Fantastic. Okay, so the FDA has something called the Current Good Manufacturing Process, right, or GMP. So why is it that Court for Life has passed this and others have not?
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So it’s a testament to our dedication to quality, honestly. Good manufacturing practices are rules and regulations that… the FDA in collaboration with folks that accredit labs such as the American Association of Blood and Biotherapies or the American Association of Tissue Banks or the Foundation for the Accreditation of Cell Therapy. So these are all agencies that oversee tissue and blood banking, especially in the cell therapy realm. And what they have done with these are generated basic minimums That a facility needs to adhere to in order to be considered CGMP certified and CGMP compliant and again it stems around things such as do you process within a clean room. And what state of clean room is it? So you can have a class 100,000 clean room or you can have a much cleaner class 100 clean room. So what level of clean room, how and when do you certify that that room is considered a clean room and meets those criteria? It surrounds your quality plan. So when you have a process that you’re developing, has it been validated? Has it been certified to perform the way you expect it and provide the outcome that you expect? Do you do certain testing that’s required? Do you have release testing that’s going to, again, show that your product is what you think and what you say it will be? So it’s a general process. statement about the quality of the facility, the quality of the laboratory within that facility, and then more importantly, the quality and purity of the products that that laboratory manufactures for use within humans here in the US and around the world. Doesn’t sound cheap. It is not cheap. Obviously, every piece of equipment within a laboratory does cost money. Sometimes the bigger, the more expensive, and even sometimes the smaller. But it does require a lot of specialized equipment. The validations alone, when you validate a process that involves some sort of blood product or a tissue product, you actually have to get specifically designed donations where The donor understands the typical use of this is not going to be eligible because they’re going to donate it for research and validation. You’re going to then process that the way you would process a normal donation. But then instead of banking it for use in Jane Doe later, you’re going to turn around, follow that product, and you’re going to test it. Is it what we thought it was when we put it into the freezer? Is it still what we thought it was now that it’s gone through the freezing and thawing process? Did the cells survive? Are they still viable? Are they still functional? Is it still sterile and not contaminated? Is the container, has it survived that process? So the validations require you to produce unusable products that you then use in ways to show that your products long-term are going to be what you say they are. And so you’re talking about manpower to do that. You’re talking about materials, all of that, which of course costs money, all the specialized equipment that goes into that. It is not a small undertaking for a small lab to go through that process and become CGMP certified.
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So to your knowledge, how many labs across the United States are CGMP, if you know, or have already met that bar?
SPEAKER 15 :
I know that there are currently about 15 accredited AABB cell therapy and cord blood banks within the United States. And as part of that accreditation process, they would need to be compliant to CGMP. And there are, I believe, 111 or 112, somewhere in that range. of AATB tissue banks that specialize in tissues instead of just cells. So I would say that there’s probably another 100 or so research, like university type research labs that would meet those criteria. But again, you’re talking about total of, you know, somewhere in the neighborhood of maybe 250 labs within the entire United States, whereas Right here in the state of Florida, we probably have 500 labs that do some sort of cellular slash tissue slash body fluid processing. So it is a number that, as you look in the big picture, it’s a small number. But there are certainly a lot of labs around the country that do meet this criteria because, again, they choose to provide that quality to their clients, whomever they may be, whether it’s individuals or corporations that they’re working with.
SPEAKER 05 :
OK, so the short answer is if you’re going to go down the stem cell road and there’s really no reason for somebody now to go to Panama or Costa Rica or heaven forbid, Tijuana, Mexico, because here the FDA is watching you guys like a hawk. There are certain processes that you must follow. And when you send out a certificate of analysis, which is what you give me, it says this is how many cells are in there, these are how many are alive, and there’s no bacterial, no viral, no fungal contamination, no hepatitis, no Zika, no syphilis, any of that stuff, right?
SPEAKER 15 :
That’s correct.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Great. So I think we have a caller. Eric from Denver wants to ask Donald a question. So, Eric, what’s your question?
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, yes, sir. Thanks for taking my call, you guys. Mm-hmm. About 12 or 15 years ago, I had a kylectomy at the base of my right toe, and a piece of bone spur broke off and went in there, and he had to remove it. But he said that there’s not very much cartilage there, and someday that joint is going to have to be fused with screws, you know. So I wanted to ask, is there a way to— re- grow that cartilage with stem cells without having to go through the fusion.
SPEAKER 05 :
So, Donald, it sounds more like a clinical question. You mind if I tackle that one?
SPEAKER 12 :
Go right ahead.
SPEAKER 05 :
Go right ahead, Dr. Scott. So it’s the same process as if the orthopedic surgeon says you have bone-on-bone in your knee, okay? So the analogy I give to audiences or if I was meeting with you in my office one-on-one is As I said, imagine that the carpet around you is grass, and right here in front of you is a bare spot, dirt. Now, if you cordon it off, you keep the kids and the dogs and the cats off of it, with TLC and some water and some fertilizer and some sunshine, you can get the grass from around that dirt area to start to grow in. Okay. With the proper nutrition. So in this case, it’s the proteins and peptides, technically called cytokines and chemokines, but the proteins and peptides that the stem cell produces, which stimulates the cartilage to grow. So in your case, we want it to grow just like that grass to fill in that dirt spot. Okay. And then once it’s filled in, because we know for a fact from research that stem cells, when I put them into your body, will live about six to eight months. And I take a different approach. I talk about mesenchymal stem cells. That’s what we’re talking about here, right, as opposed to hematopoietic stem cells. So let me back up a little bit. In a sample, you have two different cell types. There’s the hematopoietic, heme meaning blood. So think of those as chocolate stem cells. So when Donald was talking about doing a bone marrow transplant for somebody with leukemia, lymphoma, myeloma, we’re really interested in the chocolate cells. However, when I as a doctor want to put these cells in your body, I’m trying to regenerate things. That’s the regenerative medicine, right? So those are mesenchymal. You’ll hear some doctors say mesenchymal. I say mesenchymal. Mesenchymal stem cells. Think of those as the vanilla stem cells. So they’re all in the same vial. I can’t separate them. Donald might be able to, but they come to me chocolate and vanilla in the same vial. I’m interested in the vanilla because it’s the vanilla that is going to send out the chemical signal to tell your cartilage cells around the edges to start to grow and replicate. Well, if we’re filling in a dirt patch, it takes time to fill that in. That’s why if we can get to somebody who has mild to moderate cartilage wear and tear in their knee and their shoulder and their big toe and their hip, then it’s so much easier. Because the lifespan of those vanilla cells, like I said, about six to eight months, they’re spending most of their time keeping the kids off there, the dogs and cats, getting it to grow in. But it didn’t really thicken it up. So oftentimes when somebody is severe, I will tell them, oh, by the way, in about six months you may need to come back to me and I need to give you a booster because now that it’s filled in, now we want to get it to thicken up. So it’s much easier when it’s mild to moderate. But there is nothing else that I know of in the world of medicine right now that will give you a fighting chance to regrow that cartilage so that you don’t need a fusion.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, so basically the answer is no, it will not work.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, I didn’t say that. I said you need to treat it with tender, loving care, just like the dirt patch on the grass.
SPEAKER 14 :
Uh-huh. Yes. Oh, I see. So you’re saying in lame and simple terms, it can be done, but it might take a while.
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s a heavy lift, right? It’s much harder than somebody with mild to moderate, but it can be done. Now, do I guarantee it? No. Because why? You’re walking all the time. So let’s go back to the grass analogy. If you have this grass and the dogs are running over and the cat, I get a lot of people down in the Castle Rock area that are athletes, right? Douglas County, everybody’s fit down there. And as soon as I make them feel good, what do they do? They go out and they run or they crash their mountain bike or whatever, and they undo that fresh repair. Now, if you can baby that sucker for about four months, then you stand a very good chance of getting that cartilage to grow back over that bone and you don’t need a fusion.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, I see what you’re saying now. And then you might have to repeat this process a number of times, and then you’ve got to take it easy and then repeat the process, like that type of thing.
SPEAKER 04 :
You’ve got it. That’s exactly right, Eric.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes. Oh, I see what you’re saying now. So it may not be that I have to get that fusion. That is correct. Now, I don’t think Medicare would pay for something like that.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, on the regenerative side, what I do, Medicare, I take no insurance. It’s all cash-based.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, I see, because I don’t think that modern medicine accepts this yet.
SPEAKER 04 :
That is correct. Oh, I see. It’s pioneers like me.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, that answers my question. Sure. Can I ask you another one about a tumor?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, we’ve got to take a break right now. We’re just a couple minutes past when I should have taken a break. Charlie’s looking at me through the glass. So let’s take a quick break. You can maybe ask me offline during the break, and then I’ll see if I can’t address it, okay? So you’re listening to Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John Rush, 560 KLZ. We’ll be right back.
SPEAKER 16 :
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SPEAKER 05 :
Welcome back, listeners. You’re listening to Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John Rush on this Health and Wellness Wednesday here in the Denver, Colorado area. And I have my great friend Donald Hudspeth from Cord for Life. They’re the second oldest tissue bank in the United States. They specialize in collecting umbilical cord blood for transplants for people who have leukemia, lymphoma, myeloma. But they also do regenerative medicine. They sell it to doctors like myself so I can help you, like Eric, grow cartilage in your toe or in your knee, your shoulder, or treat other conditions. And so, Donald, do you think you would be able to hold over possibly into the top of the next hour?
SPEAKER 15 :
Sure.
SPEAKER 05 :
Because we have a caller right now and she heard us a little while ago. She came to my clinic and I really want people to hear her story because let’s face it, Donald, you’re in a lab, you’re looking at microscopes, you’re making sure the day-to-day operations, but it is rare that you get to sit in my shoes and you hear the stories of the product that you and Saeed are producing and actually what it does for folks. So Kat, are you there?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes, I am.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, so we have Donald on the line. He doesn’t get to hear from patients that often because, like I said, he’s in a building there in Orlando, Florida, in the air conditioning. But do the audience a favor. Introduce yourself, tell them your back story, and then tell them what happened for you.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, so my name is Kat Tarnoff, and I had heard about – last August and told me about it. I contacted you. In my case, I’d been diagnosed with MS, and I was having issues with, especially with my gait, but with neuropathy in my feet and just numbness and tingling in my hand that ached all the time and was absolutely devastating. so cold it felt like my bone marrow was frozen and that tingling was going up my forearm. And I thought it was worth giving it a try. So what had you tried before this? Just the regular Western medicine treatments that all they try to do is keep it at bay, hopefully.
SPEAKER 05 :
And what did the neurologist tell you? Because this falls under the world of the neurologist. What did they tell you
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, the neurologist told me that I had, part of the problem was I had spasticity in my leg, especially in my ankle, that it wasn’t moving. The muscle was so tight that he actually told me I was walking like a stroke victim, which is lovely to hear. So I would swing my leg out to the side, and it made walking really difficult. I could only take small steps. My balance was off, and it was really impeding me. And so all they can do is do infusion therapies to try to keep it at bay.
SPEAKER 05 :
And was that reversing it, or were you slowly going downhill?
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, going downhill. There’s no reversing it with Western medicine. All they do is address the symptom. They don’t do anything about the cause.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. They’re great at treating symptoms, right? That’s how I was trained in the allopathic world. That’s traditional Western medicine. You’re exactly right. They don’t think, hey, can we back up in time? And what caused this? Is there a way that we can address this? Maybe even save people who are newly diagnosed or are not even getting this. But what happened after you gave us a call?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well… I’ll try to make this a little sure. I spoke to you. Everything sounded wonderful. Then I spoke to another provider. I had tried going to other providers as well. I tried other things like homeopathy. I tried just doing physical therapy. I was doing all kinds of things like that and acupuncture. And my acupuncturist, I told her about it. She was really worried. And she said, are you sure? We want to look into this. So I did a lot of research to see, is there any reason I should not? And I’ll tell you, I found no reason I should not. Because you explained to me that you use the first line cells. And so that negated some of the issues that some people can have with stem cell lines that you that you would not use right there and there was no downside so why not try it other than the cost exactly other than the cost but this is my life all right we got a minute and a half so tell me what happened to you okay so i went from not being able i didn’t want to walk my dog anymore because my balance was off i thought he’d throw me over taking tiny little steps that i just It was really impeding my life, but the things that improved were weird. My balance got a lot better. I was able to walk with much larger steps. The aching in my feet that was driving me crazy at night to where I wouldn’t even sleep in the bed. I was on a recliner. That went away. I’m able to sit in a car and ride for long distances where I never was able to do that. That made me crazy and in pain. And it doesn’t anymore. The tingling and numbness and coldness in my hand went away. But what was crazy is my eyesight got better. I used to have prescription glasses to drive at night. And I can’t use them anymore because I don’t need them. And I was looking up one night thinking, my goodness, there are so many more stars. And looking up like that used to put me off balance. And I’m not off balance anymore.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. It’s basically giving your life back, hasn’t it?
SPEAKER 11 :
It really has. It really has. I can run and play with my dog. And before, I was standing in the door of the garage throwing the ball to my dog and having him bring it back to me. Wow. It was at that point.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, thank you for sharing that with us and with Donald because, like I said, he doesn’t get to hear a lot of these stories because he’s stuck in his laboratory there in Orlando. So, Kat, God bless you, and hopefully we’ll see you in the clinic soon. If you want to reach me, you can reach the clinic at 303-663-6990. Donald will hold over to the next hour. Thank you so graciously. And we’ll be right back for Hour 2.
SPEAKER 1 :
I’m a rich guy.
