Join the Drive Radio team, along with special guests from Hands of the Carpenter, as they explore the incredible impact of their car donation program. This episode delves into how the initiative aids single working moms by providing them access to reliable transportation. Crystal Scott from Hands of the Carpenter explains the meticulous vetting process and how their programs go beyond just handing out keys. Through extraordinary dedication, they ensure no car goes wasted by repairing or appropriately recycling them, making every donation count. Listeners will hear about the personal experiences and challenges faced by single mothers and how
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All right, Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Thank you all for joining us today. We appreciate it. It is a live program today, one week before the Independence Day weekend, so it’s June 28th today. And somebody mentioned through the text line a moment ago that when we come back, so we’ll have a live show the week after Fourth of July weekend, we will be closer to 2050 than we will be to the year 2000. So, Pat, from all… Tech up in Fort Collins, good morning. Good morning, nice to be here. And Steve from Geno’s, good morning. Good morning. So there’s a little tidbit for you, and Steve, introduce the guest you brought with you.
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We have Crystal Scott from Hands of the Carpenter.
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All right, Crystal, welcome as well.
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Thank you for having me.
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Thanks for joining us, we appreciate it. Okay, before we get going, and I’ve got questions of the day, which we’ll do in a moment, but before we do that, again, Charlie Grimes, our engineer, Larry Unger, answering phones, you can get geared up, ask us questions today, because again, we’re not going to be here next week. 303-477-5600. Crystal, explain what, I talk about this frequently, but Hands of the Carpenter, give us your little spiel on Hands of the Carpenter.
SPEAKER 12 :
So we assist single working moms with their vehicles. And so we have a repair program that’s called SHIFT. They do have to fill out an application. But what happens once they get qualified? They bring in their vehicle to one of our locations. We do have three. And we do what’s called a welcome evaluation. And what we’re doing is we’re actually interviewing that vehicle to see if it’s still viable and should be continue to invest in. And if the repairs make sense, the type of car, the mileage, all of all of the moving parts, then we do those repairs for them and keep them on the road.
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The other thing I know you guys do as well is you, for a lot of you listening, I’ve had you guys do this. You’re at the end of your vehicle. You don’t know where to go with it. It’s still viable, but maybe really not a huge sale item, and what you were offered even on a trade wasn’t that big, and you’re thinking, why don’t I just go donate this car? You guys take those cars as well, correct? Correct.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. Running, not running. We will graciously accept anything that people are generously able to give to us. There is a tax credit applied.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. The other thing I know that you guys do, which I appreciate because… Some of the back story here for a lot of you listening, Pat may not know this, Steve does because he’s been with me for a very, very long time. We at one time tried to do things along these lines. We had a particular Christmas year that we had decided, and I had all sorts of help with this. We had sponsors. Napa was a big portion of it. Dennis, when he owned Extreme Auto Repair back in the day, we had all sorts of things going on, coordinated this deal where we were going to give a car away, and we did, every weekend between Thanksgiving and Christmas as a program. So it’s Drive Radio. We did that. And we did. Now, I will tell you that it was somewhat successful, and I don’t want to get into all the details as to why it wasn’t successful. Let’s just say that it’s really hard to vet people out. And so the problem that I had in a lot of these – by the way – You see a lot of programs like mine to where they’re giving vehicles away and so on. Let me just tell you what. They’re not vetting them out very well either because it’s extremely hard to do unless you’re partnered up with somebody like Hands of the Carpenter. And that’s where we got involved was because… We didn’t have that ability. And I was even using some local city agencies to help us with the vetting. And I will be straight up honest. It was a disaster. You guys didn’t know that off air because we did it on air and gave cars away and did all of that. But the off air side of that ended up being an utter disaster. And the reason we’ve never done it since… is because it was an utter disaster. I had people that we had given cars to that already had cars. I had people we gave cars to that wanted to know why we weren’t buying their license plates and insurance, and it was a mess, and I’ll never do it again. It was one of the most disappointing things I think I’ve ever done as far as community involvement goes because the expectations of the folks involved were so high, and I learned a lot about people, and this is a long time ago. That’s why we’ve never done it since is because it was such a failure off air not on air but off air that we decided we’d never do it again well then hands of the carpenter dan they came along and the difference between them and what we were doing as a program is is crystal said a moment ago they have this whole application vetting process and what i do know and crystal hasn’t said this yet but they look at everything this this young lady or older lady single lady is what i should say has going on do they have the ability to even own a car Can they afford the insurance on the car? Can they keep the car maintained? And all of the other things that go into this, can they do all of that? And if not, they’re there to help them with a lot of that, budgetarily speaking. And I know you guys do different training and classes and all sorts of things to help folks get to that particular – help these ladies, I should say, get to that particular level. But, folks, those were the things that I, Steve, Pat – at that time, I was running a business even, an automotive business. We don’t have that – We don’t have that time, the energy, the resources, the volunteers, all of the things that it takes to make that happen. We didn’t have that available where you guys, Crystal Hands of the Carpenter, that’s what you do.
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Correct.
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You’re it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes.
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You’re it. Yes. So here’s a question. Maybe if you don’t know this, that’s fine. I don’t want to try to put you on the spot. But how many ladies per year do you think you guys are able to assist? Do you have that number by chance?
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Sure. So this year’s goal is 880. Wow.
SPEAKER 16 :
Wow. That is truly amazing. You’re kidding me. Wow. Okay. That’s a big number. That’s a lot. Good for you. That’s a huge goal. Good for you.
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Yes. I believe last year we were able to serve 664. Okay. Wow.
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Okay. Still a big number. So for those of you listening, here’s what I want to tell you. If you’ve got a vehicle that, I don’t want to say it’s on its last leg, but maybe it’s a good running vehicle. You just don’t know where to go with it. You’ve not really got any place to donate it to. And you’re like, this is too good of a car to just send to the crusher. Mm-hmm. You know what? We have, again, hands of the carpenter. We have a place that you can take those, and I do know this as well. There’s two locations now to take care of that, or three locations. One in Aurora, one in Golden. Where’s the third? Federal Heights. Federal Heights. Okay, so that’s a new location I didn’t know about. Okay, so we have three locations now to take care of you. The other thing I do know as well is they’ve got partners on the towing side and so on to where if it’s a car even that doesn’t run, all you have to do is call them. Uh, here’s the one thing that I do know they have to have that makes things a whole lot easier. Please have title. Um, if you don’t have title, it gets really, really messy and yes, it can be done, but it just becomes this convoluted mess that quite honestly is a burden for them more than it’s a help. So as long as you’ve got a car, it doesn’t even have to be running, but if you’ve got good clean title, that’s what we need, right?
SPEAKER 12 :
Correct. It’s a one, two, three step process. You’re just going to go onto our website, handsofthecarpenter.org, and you’re going to fill out a very short and simple form. And then we’re going to see how are we going to receive the gift. Is that going to be something that we need to send a tow to get? Or are you able to bring it in and drop it off? And then you just need the keys and the title.
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Okay. That’s it, folks. They’ll handle the rest of it. And again, I just know this because I’ve toured the facilities. It’s been a while since I toured the Golden facility, but it’s a very nice setup that they have going on. They help all these ladies out. Everyone is vetted. This isn’t something to where you’re worried about this going to somebody that’s not. in need and doesn’t need this hand up, because it’s really why it’s called Hands of the Carpenter. We’re trying to lift these folks up at the end of the day, and it’s not a handout. I think I want to make sure I’m really clear on that, Crystal. It’s not a handout, because that typically doesn’t do anything. It’s a hand up to really help these particular individuals with life, I guess is the best way. And guess what, folks? We all end up in positions that we didn’t necessarily think we were going to be in. In some cases, it’s not even our fault that we’re there. Is that a good way to say it, Crystal?
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. I don’t think any of our clients really woke up one day and said, you know what sounds like fun? Let me be a single mom today.
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Yeah, great point. Some it’s divorce, some it’s widow. There’s all sorts of reasons why these things can come up. And again, it’s just a great ministry. It’s a great way to help people. uh, these ladies. So if you’ve got the ability to, and I’m going to talk about this a little bit more through the show too, if you’ve got any ability to donate a vehicle by all means, but for some of you that are a little handy, we’ve got opportunity for you as well that we’ll talk about here in a moment. But again, myself, uh, patch night from all tech automotive up in Fort Collins with us today. And Steve Horvath from Gino’s questions. Uh, we’re, we’re here to answer questions as well. Again, not going to be here next weekend because of the 4th of July, uh,
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SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, so our vehicles and all of our programs are not actually free to our clients. Yeah, that’s right.
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Sorry, I didn’t say that right. Yes, they participate. Let’s just say it that way, right? Yes.
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So they do pay just a percentage of the fair market value for that vehicle. I’ve actually been with the organization going on my 12th year.
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Oh, nice.
SPEAKER 12 :
And so I’ve seen this program grow. We’ve definitely learned from past lessons.
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Like us. Yeah.
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Yes. And when I first started, we were actually donating the vehicles out. And then I was a part of the change to ask them to pay a percentage towards that repair, towards that vehicle. And I actually have seen way more investment into that vehicle from the client.
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Yeah, of course.
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Because it gives them a sense of pride of like, oh, I got this for my family. I am providing for my family, whatever their percentage was.
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It’s not a freebie.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, so they take a lot more ownership of it, and they take more care of it.
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But that, and I had a question on the text line, that initial donation, so I, Steve, Pat, we take a car, we donate it to Hands of the Carpenter. There’s an established value that, again, you guys have to participate in. with IRS rules and that perceived value or that value that cans the carpenters gonna give you a receipt make sure I’m clear on this you’re gonna get a receipt from them saying here is the value this is what you get to take as a charitable donation on your taxes
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Yeah, so once we receive in the vehicle, and then we do an evaluation on that vehicle to figure out where is this going to be the best use of this vehicle so that we’re keeping in mind the stewardship of all gifts and all clients. And then from there, in about 30 to 60 days, then we follow up with what happened with the vehicle and then that value. So when you donate at that time, we can’t give you a price at that moment, but then we do follow up with appropriate tax documents.
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Gotcha, yeah, because if it’s ever audited, let’s say, for example, they audit Pat and say, okay, you gave this donation to Hands of the Carpenter. This is what you wrote down, and they have to make sure that matches what Hands of the Carpenter gave you, so you can’t cheat is my point. Let’s say Hands of the Carpenter gives you an evaluation of $2,000. You can’t put four on your taxes. If you ever get audited, that’s going to be a problem. It has to match is my point because that’s what Hands of the Carpenter is using as their income if you would quote unquote evaluation to know this is the this is the gift this is the donation that we received right crystal correct okay yeah so you guys can’t cheat it has to it has to be i guess you can i mean more power to you but if you if you get caught they’re going to come back and find that because hands the carpenter is going to have their side of the fence well and i think if you believe in the program there’s no reason to cheat No, you’re doing this – you’re not doing this for the donation. Although I will tell you, some of you that have asked me over the years, you know, what do I do with this vehicle, I think by the time I’m done explaining to you how this all works, you’re realizing that, oh, okay, not only am I going to get a little bit of a donation out of this when it’s all said and done on my taxes, I’m really helping somebody else out when it’s all said and done. So I’m recycling my vehicle in a way that, quite honestly, it wouldn’t be recycled otherwise. Yeah.
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Correct.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes, absolutely. So then, like, if I donate a car, you’re going to get back with me and say what you did with it? Correct. And that’s kind of an extra little… That makes you feel good. Yeah. And then, you know, you might also say, you know, it needed to be crushed and it wasn’t worth it. And that’s okay, you know.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
I mean, that’s the truth.
SPEAKER 12 :
And absolutely. And all of those, it doesn’t matter what ends up happening with that vehicle. Anything and everything helps us. So anyone who has ever worked on a car or bought in parts or… owns a car knows that there are expenses that go into a vehicle and with our repair program, we need funds to be able to do that. So anything and everything helps.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, now this is one where I’m not sure because I know it used to be this way. You guys also would look for technicians, people that maybe are in the industry, out of the industry, retired from the industry. They’ve got that skill set where they can come into a shop and they know how to do certain things, do some of the refurbishing things that you guys need on these vehicles. Are you still looking for volunteers? How does that part work, Crystal?
SPEAKER 12 :
Thank you for asking. So we’re not looking necessarily for people to come in and do repairs, but we are needing assistance on taking vehicles to get emissions, shuttling them back and forth between our three locations now, filling them up with gas, maybe even just cleaning it out.
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Okay.
SPEAKER 12 :
Getting it nice and ready for a lady.
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The old-fashioned lot boy. Yeah, that’s where I started.
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Right up my alley. We all know where we started. Go back to my roots, yeah. Exactly. Easy enough. Okay, and what’s the best way for folks to get a hold of you on that, Crystal?
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That would be actually going to our website, handsofthecarpenter.org, and get involved. And then there’s a tab to connect with us for volunteering. We also have other moving parts of us. We do have a gala coming up in November. So we would need people from time to time to help us with that. And then we have other volunteering opportunities. So if you don’t know anything about a car, but you still want to get involved with us, we actually do have other areas for support. Awesome.
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Awesome. Awesome. On top of that, I’m getting some other things in on text messages in regards to how things should be sold and different things. I’ll talk about some of that as well throughout the program because there’s some great questions coming in on just general sales and so on, not necessarily the donation side like we’re talking to Crystal about. But, folks, I can’t say enough about Hands of the Carpenter, something that I think, Steve, we’ve been working with as far as Drive Radio is concerned now for decades. probably a decade or more. I’m trying to remember when we had Dan on here last time. I’m probably not wrong on that, am I? I think so. It’s been quite some time. Well, I know that the first time I met Dan, I was living in Golden and we had already been affiliated with Dan for a while before meeting him in person. And I’ve lived in Golden nine years now. So it’s got to be a decade or so that we’ve been with Hands of the Carpenter and helping them along these lines so yeah great organization folks again if you’ve got a vehicle that you’re you’re just not knowing what to do with now one thing i should also ask crystal let’s say it’s a vehicle where they’re just not sure should this go to scrap should it go to you guys do they call you first anyways how should they look at that so it’s a vehicle not running let’s say i’ve quit driving it it’s been parked out back it’s in the driveway and i need to do something with it i heard you guys talking on air it hasn’t run in several years do they still contact you
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, you can just fill out that form, and then our vehicle donations coordinator, Brenda, will connect with them.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay.
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And then if they have specific questions or are unsure about anything, she will walk them through the entire process.
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Is there ever a vehicle you don’t take? Sorry to put you on the spot, but…
SPEAKER 12 :
No, I think sometimes like campers and big box trucks are a really big challenge for us. Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, that’s typically not something a single mom’s driving.
SPEAKER 12 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 16 :
Just saying, folks. We’re not going to put her in an RV. We’re not going to put her in a box truck.
SPEAKER 17 :
Then she might be a single homeless mom. Then if she had an RV, we don’t need that either.
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And those are – I’m going to be straightforward here. This isn’t a dumping ground. I want to make sure I’m really clear on this. Hands of the carpenters taking these vehicles and going through them, and there’s a process of vetting and all of that. And as Crystal even explained, there’s even a buy-in now to these folks that are – that are going to own these vehicles when it’s all said and done. And they’ve got the ability to keep them insured, to keep them registered, all of those different things. So this isn’t something where they’re going to be out there running around with expired tags two years later. That’s not how this works. We’re not believers in that either. On the same token, it’s not a dumping ground for your old tent trailer that you don’t know where else to take it or your old RV that doesn’t run anymore. Yeah, no, this is not that either. We’re not donating those sorts of vehicles, and that’s not a help to them. Now, I guess I could say this. If it’s something where you want to give a really nice donation to them and you’ve got a nice RV, here’s my suggestion. Sell it, and if you still want to give that donation to them, just give them the cash. Go sell that on your own. Go get that vehicle taken care of and just give them the cash. It’s still a charitable donation at that point in time, right? You take cash. Yes. Cash always works.
SPEAKER 07 :
All day long, right? Yes.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, so if you’re in that position and you’re trying to figure out what to do with that particular vehicle and you still want it to be a nice donation, you can still do it that way. You can go sell that $5,000, $7,000, $8,000, $10,000 camper, whatever it is, and if you decide you want to just donate the money, you know what? That works just as well. No problem there whatsoever. Any other questions, guys? We’ll take a break otherwise? No. Okay.
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All right.
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We’ll be right back, guys. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Drive Radio KLZ 560. Myself, Pat Schneidt from Alltech Automotive up in Fort Collins. Steve Horvath from Geno’s. And Crystal Scott from Hands of the Carpenters. Somebody asked on a text line. This is funny. Oh, before I get going. Sorry. Somebody asked me what was the question of the day. What cars… Did your high school friends drive? That was from one of you, by the way. One of you suggested that during the week, so I went ahead and added it to the question of the day for today. Steve asked me a moment ago, what is it? So there is the question of the day. What cars did your high school friends drive? We’ll get into that throughout the program today, 303-477-5600. Somebody just texted though and said, John lives in Golden. Does he ever wish he lived in a super affluent area like Cherry Creek, Larkspur, Franktown, Douglas County, and hasn’t Golden or especially Arvada kind of gone downhill a bit? No, in fact, I will tell you that… I don’t even go to downtown Golden this time of the year. My wife and I won’t because there’s so many tourists that now come to the Golden area. It’s become kind of the second boulder along the Front Range or even downtown Fort Collins. Pat would know what I mean by that. I think between those three, it’s becoming very popular. No, we won’t go downtown this time of the year in the evenings because there’s just so many tourists that flood the area because of how popular it’s gotten. So, no, in fact, if anything, I think it’s probably become – more upscale since I’ve lived there than the other way around. And I’m not saying that good, bad or otherwise, it is what it’s just where I live. It is it is what it is. I moved out of Boulder back in 2016. And because I could take that money and do a lot more with it in other places, and golden was closer to the station than any other place. And so that’s why I did what I did, Pat.
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I just think we need to clarify the move upscale for Golden is not due to the rushes living. No, no, no, not at all.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely not. No, absolutely not. Also, really quick, I want to make sure Crystal explains, too, that the program, we were talking about this through the break, so I want to make sure we said this on air. When you have involvement with these young ladies, there is a time limit on this as well. Explain that. You were talking to Steve about this, so explain that if you would, Crystal.
SPEAKER 12 :
Sure. So once a lady is qualified and we do that welcome evaluation and we have her for three years. And so we are doing all the necessary repairs, getting the vehicle back up to, you know, really being reliable and safe. And then we’re also helping her with her maintenance. Every three months, 3,000, we all know something has to happen.
SPEAKER 01 :
That’s an oil change.
SPEAKER 12 :
So we’re trying to instill those really good vehicle ownership habits and We’re there when they have a question about, hey, my car is making this weird noise. We talk to them all the time about, oh, great, you know, that’s probably this, but why don’t you come in and let’s just make sure. And so they have three years with us, and they just have to – we 100% promote legal driving. So they do have to currently have valid registration, valid insurance, and a current and valid driver’s license.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 12 :
they do renew that every year for to qualify for that next year okay um and so once they are done with our our three-year program we do also kind of offer a little graduate uh program as well but they do have to go through uh those three years okay and we do ask that they come and see us for a minimum of three times for their calendar year so if they start tomorrow it would be this time next year that they would have to renew and update their documents But if they do that, and we just want to make sure that they come in at least three times for that year because we need to see them for their oil changes. We want to put eyes on everything always and let them know, hey, we’re not ready to replace this belt yet, but we are seeing cracks. That’s going to be X, Y, Z amount of money. Let’s go ahead and start budgeting for that repair because we know that is coming up.
SPEAKER 16 :
You know, as a side note, as a shop owner, and I know Pat and Steve are as well, I would like to put a lot of customers through that program because there’s a lot of people in general that just need to be trained along those lines that these are the things we need to be doing on a vehicle on a routine basis. Not the majority of you guys as listeners because you all get how this works, but I’ll tell you, and I think Pat and Steve, you guys could attest to this, there’s a lot of people that don’t know this.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, that’s the truth, and I think we say there are people that do believe in maintenance and come in and do the 3,000 in three-month checks, and then there are people that don’t, and we see them when they have a catastrophic failure. Honestly, our business model needs both types of customers, but we definitely prefer the maintenance and daily or monthly check-ins.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, because they’re the customers that understand how all of this works, and they want to take care of their vehicle, and they want to keep it on the road. And I used to have this slogan in my business and in my shops, and it’s still true today. I can plan for maintenance. I can’t plan for your next crisis. So it’s much cheaper for me to maintain your car than it is for me to fix your car. So let’s keep it in and get it maintained, and then we don’t have to, quote, unquote, fix it if we’re doing the proper maintenance. So that was my slogan that I used for years, and it’s still true to this day, and it’s true with a lot of things in life, not just your car. Yeah, that’s a good one. Okay, question of the day again. What cars did your high school friends drive? Steve, you.
SPEAKER 17 :
I had a friend that had a, remember the old Monte Carlo? Oh, yeah. Like a 78 Monte Carlo.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
You know, you got to hand it down from your parents. Oh, that’s a great car. Yeah. Remember he had, some of them had that seat where you could move it and then you
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yeah, turn sideways. I saw one of those online the other day. It had a swivel seat in it.
SPEAKER 08 :
A swivel bucket seat.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, it made it easier getting it out.
SPEAKER 08 :
Long before you, Crystal.
SPEAKER 16 :
I’m sorry.
SPEAKER 08 :
Carlos and Chevelles in the mid-’70s had those.
SPEAKER 16 :
They were awesome. Actually, those are cars that for the longest time literally didn’t really have a lot of value, and they’re coming back right now. Those mid-70s Monte Carlos are actually starting to be worth some money, and they weren’t for the longest time. Because the Chevelles and the Camaros are getting scarce. Yeah, so now the Monte Carlos are starting to become more popular. And I saw one the other day for sale that had the swivel seat. When Steve just said that, it reminded me of that. I’m not sure that was the safest design in its day and probably why it didn’t last, but it was very interesting that you’d swivel to get out of the car with that thing. It was like a bar stool. Yeah. With a little lock engagement thing where literally you’d pivot it out to get out of the car, and you’d get back in and pivot it back around. And it was kind of goofy. It was. And they had problems with those because those would get loose over time, and that’s why that didn’t stay very long.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Those cars actually are getting to be worth some money, and for those of you that might still be hanging on to one of those, yeah, don’t give that car away. That’s one of those that give away as in sell for really cheap because they’re starting to get worth more and more money as time goes by. Other cars? What about you, Pat?
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, okay. So there’s a little bit of context to this story. So I grew up in a town before cell phones, right? And so the activity on weekend nights was to cruise Maine. Sure. And A&W on one end and Taco John’s on the other. And it was four miles of two lanes each direction. So being a car guy, I was ultimately embarrassed because my first car was a Pinto. Okay. So that didn’t fit. the cruise scene at all.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I didn’t.
SPEAKER 08 :
My buddy, however, was fortunate enough. He had a 71 Chevelle with the wide tires in the back and lifted up in the back. So let’s just say I bought the refreshments and the gas and we took Todd’s car. Okay. That works. And I was also fortunate enough that my mom did purchase a 77 Monte Carlo, new from the dealership. And so when Todd wasn’t available, I asked, Mom, can I borrow your car tonight? That works.
SPEAKER 16 :
Nice. Okay. Again, there’s the stories we’re looking for, 303-477-5600. And that is, again, a question of the day that came from you all as listeners. I also will encourage you. I struggle at times with the question of the day. So if there’s any time you guys think, hey, this would be a good question of the day, throw it my way. I keep a little index on those. I’ve got a few more that I’m going to do here in the coming weeks, again, coming from you all as listeners. So if there’s a question of the day that you’ve always wondered, why don’t you ask this? Send it in, and chances are we’re going to use it because I’ve been doing questions of the day now for over 20 years, so more than two decades. And, yeah, we repeat some occasionally, but I try my best to do fresh ones every week and think about how many of those questions of the days we’ve done. So 52, not quite 52 as we take some times off, but let’s say 48 questions of the day for the past 20-plus years it adds up. 1,000 questions? Yeah, there’s been a lot of questions over the years. So again, if you guys have any questions of the day that you’d like us to ask, by all means, let us know. And again, today’s question of the day is, what did your friends drive? So in my case, I actually had a couple of different friends that most didn’t have really… hot cars although i had one um friend of mine that had a v8 grim one which were pretty rare at the time and actually are today yep and believe it or not that was a faster car than most people would give it credit for it was ugly was that a little 304 amc they had a 304 amc in there and it was green so it wasn’t the prettiest car either but boy did it run better than it was a sleeper because it ran better than most people would have thought it would have run
SPEAKER 08 :
So, you know, that body style is actually, I think, modeled now by BMW in their X1 and their X3, right? It’s kind of that roller skate looking car.
SPEAKER 16 :
It kind of is. Yeah. Not my favorite look, by the way, but Steve just got up a picture. Then I had another friend that had the… And this one was hopped up. It was a Mustang II, but it had a hopped up 302 in it that actually ran really, really well. Nice.
SPEAKER 08 :
The hatchback or the coupe?
SPEAKER 16 :
It was a hatchback. Nice. But they weren’t great cars, as you all know.
SPEAKER 08 :
No.
SPEAKER 16 :
In their stock form, weren’t a great car. But with the 302, it ran pretty well. And then I had another good friend of mine, my best friend going through high school. He had a 70 Cougar with the 351 Windsor in it that he had done all up and hopped up and everything. And that was actually a pretty fast little car, actually.
SPEAKER 17 :
What about Crystal?
SPEAKER 16 :
What about you?
SPEAKER 17 :
What did your friends drive in high school? I’ve got to know what your age did.
SPEAKER 12 :
I’m from Durango, Colorado. All of us drove trucks.
SPEAKER 16 :
That’s okay. I did too growing up. I had a hodgepodge in high school and I still do. Some things never change, I guess, guys. I’m still that hodgepodge guy. I have several different cars. You all know that. I have my own little fleet that that I’m always working on and changing around and selling and buying and moving around. My wife’s like, are you ever happy? No.
SPEAKER 08 :
Never. My wife’s the same way. I tend to roll in and out of cars all the time. It’s like, you could sell a couple of these and buy one nicer car. No, it doesn’t interest me.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I hear you. All right, Steve and Aurora, go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, you guys just reminded me. This goes back a ways. I had a friend… They had a, I believe it was a 71, 72 Pinto. They actually put a 454 Chevy in it. Oh, you’re kidding me.
SPEAKER 16 :
No way.
SPEAKER 09 :
No. Really? No. Pinto with a big block.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right, there we go. That’s pretty cool.
SPEAKER 09 :
It was kind of awesome. I mean, it only had basically one purpose. It’s going straight. That’s it.
SPEAKER 16 :
That’s it. Well, it could probably do anything else. Really quick, and I didn’t have it. Well, I did have it. I had a neighbor that had one of these. Remember they would do that with the Vegas, Steve? They’d either put a small block or a big block in a Vega. I had a friend down the street probably listening to me right now. Kurt, if you’re listening, you’ll know I’m talking about you. But I had a friend that lived down the street that had one of those, and he was older than I. And so when I was probably only in my 13, 14 years or so, Steve, that old – I’d see that thing roll down the street. Man, did it sound good. Yep, yep. Oh, I totally would have done that if I had the skills back in the day. Yeah, those are great cars, too.
SPEAKER 09 :
I had a 68 Plymouth Roadrunner 4 on the floor. That was my very first car.
SPEAKER 16 :
Nothing wrong with that. That works. Good for you. Those are cool cars, too. Yeah, nothing wrong with that. Too bad you don’t have that car still. Oh, no, it’s worth a little money now. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. All right, you guys take care. Thanks, Steve. Appreciate you very much. Paul, Black Force, hang tight. I’ve got time for you. Got a couple of comments. We’ll take those as well as soon as we come back. Drive Radio, again, 303-477-5600. We’ll be right back. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 16 :
All right, we are Back Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Paul in Black Forest, you’re next. Go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hey, good morning, John and company. Good morning, Paul. On the question of the day, what kind of car did the kids in high school drive? Well, for most of them, it was their parents’ car.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good call.
SPEAKER 06 :
And then, yeah, I also had a Gremlin. A friend of mine had that thing, and he high-centered it, smashed it all up, and the thing was kind of a purplish pink. Okay. Ugliest thing you’ve seen. The only thing worse was an AMC Pacer.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, it was a fishbowl on wheels. Fishbowl, yeah. That’s what I called them.
SPEAKER 06 :
There was a funny trend there that I kind of observed, even a little bit after high school. A lot of them got into Ford Pintos until their rear collision news broke, and then all of a sudden there were no Pintos.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Yeah. Very true. On the comment about driving your parents’ car, that was an important lesson because we did learn that that old LTD four-door with seven dents on the side was just as fast as the GTO.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. I had somebody just ask, too.
SPEAKER 16 :
That’s a good question of the day as well. Somebody asked, did I ever have friends where my parents or grandparents wanted me to be more like them? Honestly, I can say that no, I didn’t. Because you guys all know me. I was a weird kid, started working really early, and I was just an oddball anyways. What? I still am. Thank you. Thank you, Pat.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
I don’t know that my parents would have ever said, because I was just such a unique kid anyways, kind of just did my own thing. I wasn’t influenced by what others did. I wasn’t a follower. I don’t know that I was a leader. I was probably a little later in my teen years, but even early on, I mean, it’s hard for kids that are 9 and 10 to be quote-unquote leaders, but I wasn’t one of those that followed the crowd. I kind of, I guess you could say, sang to my own tune and Again, I had a paper route when I was nine, and I realized then what cash was and what it could do and how important it was, even at age nine and ten, and then started working in the dealership when I was 12. And, yeah, I was that kid that I never smoked in my entire life because when I was – 11, 12 years of age, I cleaned up. In the 70s, everybody smoked. And I cleaned up enough after everybody that I just never had, not against anybody that does, I never did because I cleaned up after enough people when I was a kid. I just never had that desire because I was the cleanup kid. I started out. I was the janitor, basically. So, Paul, I appreciate your comments. But, yeah, those were good times. Let’s just say that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, you know, you could be writing my own biography, too, John. I grew up in my dad’s shop, cleaned out those heaping ashtrays and cars for an oil change. Yep. Started when I was 12, worked there until I got out of college, spent 30 years in the Army, always dabbling with cars and working part-time. The most interesting job was working as a service rider in Fairbanks, Alaska. Wow. Oh, wow.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I would say so.
SPEAKER 06 :
Dog sleds? Yeah. The first lesson I learned about working on cars up there, you put a brand new $60 dealership serpentine belt on a car, run it right out of the side in the shop. Customer picks it up five hours later without running it for a while, breaking in the belt, start it up, all the ribs fall off.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, wow. Because of how cold it was.
SPEAKER 06 :
And 50 below zero. You had to run them for at least a half an hour to finish the vulcanizing in the belt. Wow. We just have a bald rubber band there. That’s crazy.
SPEAKER 16 :
That’s something I didn’t know. Not to change the topic completely, Paul, but what’s the coldest you ever worked in in Fairbanks, Alaska? About 62 below. 62 below zero. Okay, can you feel the difference between like 20 below and 60 below?
SPEAKER 06 :
Only on your exposed skin. I was going to say, you’ve got to be covered up.
SPEAKER 16 :
That’s what I thought. Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
It definitely changes your recreational activities. I’m sure it does.
SPEAKER 16 :
And the cars, I mean, it takes a lot to get a car to operate at 62 below, doesn’t it?
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, man. And, you know, the Army, in their infinite wisdom, didn’t build garages in the government quarters. So I had a Dodge Conversion van at the time because we had a newborn little kid and we were tripping around Alaska. I had put studded snows on the back of that. Sure. And they were really good. They had their auto craft shops on base. And for the cost of the parts, they would do the winterizing.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Or I did my own. But that van with the 318 had two block heaters in it, a battery pad heater, a transmission pan heater, and an oil heater. I was pulling 14 amps on a 15 amp. Wow.
SPEAKER 16 :
Unbelievable.
SPEAKER 06 :
But that… But that baby always started. Good for you. Yep. The only other weird thing in about a 45, two weird things, a 45 below zero day, parked the van out in the driveway, didn’t have it plugged in, wouldn’t matter on this anyway. Wheels weren’t quite straight ahead. Started up in the morning, all the power steering fluid comes out of the gearbox. drive it down to the street to the autocraft, let it warm up, refill it, never did it again.
SPEAKER 16 :
So that seal got that cold, it just leaked everything out. Yep. And as soon as it warmed up, it re-sealed.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, a little side pressure on it, I guess, and it all came out.
SPEAKER 16 :
Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
SPEAKER 06 :
And in the springtime, and in the springtime, on most cars, you’d have to recharge the A.C. because the seal, especially the impressive function, shrunk enough for all the freon to leak out.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. Unbelievable.
SPEAKER 06 :
And then on the old, and then the, I had an old Bravada up there. This was in the mid-90s, late-90s. They had that spider web injector system. Unfortunately, I was working at a dealership then, but we parked it at the Fairbanks Airport where they had plug-ins hour on, hour off. Flew down to Minnesota to warm up for Christmas.
SPEAKER 16 :
Fly to Minnesota to warm up. I’ve never heard that one before, Paul.
SPEAKER 06 :
I go to fire it up at the airport, parked it there. It must have been during an hour off. It was about 40, 45 below zero. all the little Teflon seats on those little poppet valves ripped out. And by the time I got home three miles away from the airport, I had a quart and a half of gas in the oil.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, wow. Yeah, those were, as you know, those would get so bad they’d hydrolock the motor if you weren’t careful.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah, and unfortunately I was moonlighting at the dealership then, and it still cost me $600. My cost as a weekend service rider to have one of my guys do that thing, that was like $19.90.
SPEAKER 16 :
They were not cheap. I did many a motor back in the day on those, Paul, because of that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, in my high school car. They did run well.
SPEAKER 16 :
They did, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, in my high school car working at my dad’s shop, I had the luxury. Mom wouldn’t let me buy the 66 hearse with the ambulance package in it. She didn’t want a hearse parked in front of her house. Got it. I understand that, too. But I did pick up every year. I was too poor to own a car and a motorcycle, so I’d buy a winter car and then sell it, buy a motorcycle for the summer when I was growing up in Minnesota. But I scored an Oldsmobile with a 425 Rocket 360 horse in it, and that was about the time. That was about the fastest car in high school, especially after Dad and I got done tuning the distributor and the four-wheel.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Good for you. Those are great motors.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, good for you. Awesome. Paul, great memories. Thank you, sir, for that. I appreciate that very much.
SPEAKER 06 :
And if you’ve got time, I’ve got to follow up on a previous call.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, go right ahead. Because Mark, Black Forest, hang tight. We’re going to take you after we come back from the top of the hour break. But go ahead, Paul.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I called you a while back about that 07 Mercedes E550 I picked up that had a growl. We were talking, you know, I was wondering, tranny cavitation, wrong fluid, and all that kind of stuff. Well, I did go back to, you know, their Pitocin fluid, and it drained and filled a few times, and that took care of most of it, it seemed, but that might be my imagination. Found out later that, you know, I figured in the car they want 91 octane in it at this altitude. I live at 7,500 feet in the springs. Well, I just wasn’t running high enough octane gas. So you sat at a stoplight, and the engine apparently had a limit how much it could back off timing or whatever, and it would growl until you put it in neutral, then it would stop growling. Run higher octane fuel, and the whole dang thing went away.
SPEAKER 16 :
Good, good, good. Well, I’m glad. Thank you very much for that. That’s a great answer. Yeah, I appreciate that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, it might be useful to somebody else to know the Cadillacs don’t run.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 06 :
The Cadillacs that require premium don’t run worth a darn without premium.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, absolutely, Paul. No, I appreciate that very much. Thank you for that.
SPEAKER 06 :
And then I’ve got another deal I got in. I picked up a 97 Ford F-150 for my grandson. Same deal as my daughter. I pay half, you pay the other half, and that’s how I get some say-so in what you buy. Sure, sure. I’m not putting a new driver in a Honda Fit or a Yaris or something. I got you, yep. Something body-on-frame that’s not at the bottom of the hog pile when you get these pile-ups. But Immaculate truck, California truck, 180K on it, the one-owner vehicle. And the doggone thing has that same high idle for three or four minutes after you start it up, even at these temperatures. That thing will high idle until you run out of patience and try to goose it. It doesn’t kick down like an old carburetor. Any ideas what that might be? I’ve changed the coolant temperature sensor in it already.
SPEAKER 17 :
Steve, thoughts? You’re over here thinking.
SPEAKER 16 :
I can see.
SPEAKER 17 :
The wheels are turning, but I’m not coming up with anything. I’m not either. I think it’d be good to put a scanner on it while it’s doing that. Oh, good idea. Just to see what the numbers are and just to see if it is reading super cold or something like that. And that’s on the F-150, right? Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it’s a 4.6 in that one, not the 5.4.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. Hmm. Hmm. I think I’d start with what Steve’s saying. Paul, get a scanner on it when it’s doing that and see what it’s doing exactly, what the sensors are reading. Yeah, that’s a good idea.
SPEAKER 06 :
I’ve pulled the codes on it. The only code it had was for the EGR low flow, and I’ve got the stuff to fix that. Yeah, it won’t change that either.
SPEAKER 16 :
Every Ford ever built. Yeah, that’s not an issue. Paul, I’ve got to run. Appreciate your phone call and all the stories. Thank you for that. Mark, hang tight. We’ll get you as soon as we come back. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 11 :
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