In this episode, discover how current events and deep-seated conspiracies intersect as John Rush and his guests explore the complexities of political discourse. From the sensational Epstein saga to real-world impacts of political decisions, Rush to Reason provides insight and clarity. Listen in as the hosts debunk myths, analyze opinions, and dissect the narratives that shape our world, all with a commitment to logical reasoning and compelling discussion.
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SPEAKER 15 :
All right, we are back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Bob, what’s going on, sir?
SPEAKER 03 :
Akron, Ohio.
SPEAKER 15 :
Wrong.
SPEAKER 03 :
What?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yep, that is not the answer.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, Akron, Ohio is the rubber capital of the world. They had Goodyear, Goodrich, and Firestone. And Goodyear Blimp was sponsored by Goodyear. So they used to fly over all the sporting events and so on and so forth. And they’ve been replaced by drones now. And it’s not Akron, Ohio? No.
SPEAKER 15 :
It is not Akron, Ohio. That is not the right answer.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, your screener and I had a nice conversation. He’s from Ohio, and he kind of agreed with me. But, okay, well, I’ll wait for the right answer. But my dad was in the rubber business for 43 years at Dunlop Tire, and he always talked about Akron, Ohio.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hmm.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, remember, they adopted it as the city’s official bird in 1983. Not anything along the lines of what you guys are probably thinking. So maybe that’s more of a hint. And I’ll give you this. It’s not anywhere in Ohio. Or let me give you one more hint. It’s nowhere in the Midwest. Wow. There’s the other hint. It is nowhere in the Midwest.
SPEAKER 1 :
Oh, you got me.
SPEAKER 15 :
So, anyways. No, I mean, again, that’s why Producer Ann does a good job of finding good questions of the day, because, frankly, I would never guess half of these. Way more than half. I wouldn’t guess 90% of them, Bob.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. A Goodyear… What was the question, John?
SPEAKER 15 :
What city adopted it as their official bird?
SPEAKER 03 :
Phoenix?
SPEAKER 15 :
Nope.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
Nope. Nothing. Nope. Nope. Okay. That’s why these are fun. Thanks, Bob. Appreciate you. That’s why those are fun. Go ahead, Joe.
SPEAKER 06 :
John, do you really want the answer, the correct answer?
SPEAKER 15 :
If you have it, sure. Why not?
SPEAKER 06 :
Redondo Beach, California. Correct. Which was next to Carson City, which was the West Coast base where they would keep the blimp. Not every airport can handle it.
SPEAKER 15 :
Can handle it, right.
SPEAKER 06 :
You have to have a special tower. and Carson City was right next to Redondo Beach, and they adopted the blimp. There you go.
SPEAKER 15 :
There is the answer. It had nothing to do with tires or anything along those lines.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, Redondo Beach, California, next to Carson City, the West Coast home of the blimp.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yep, there you go. Good answer, Joe.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, John.
SPEAKER 15 :
Those are fun. Again, they are fun because most of the time they’re way off of what most people are thinking, and as Bob just proved, it’s usually off of what we’re normally thinking.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, that goes back to, like, the most popular fruit. Nobody thinks a tomato is a fruit.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right. Correct. I did have an answer yesterday. Somebody said, you know, the question yesterday was, you know, why are there so many countries that end in Stan? And somebody texted and said, because some guy named Stan named them. It’s like, no, that’s not the right answer.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s not their reason. It’s Persian. It’s Persian for land.
SPEAKER 15 :
Anyways, I did get a laugh out of that. I will say that.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, John, maybe I’ll call in later.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right, sounds great, Joe. Appreciate you. Oh, man. Anyways, okay, yeah, those are fun. And thank you, Producer Ann, for doing that, because they are a lot of fun, and I do enjoy it, and I know a lot of you guys do as well. It’s a lot of good banter back and forth, and a lot of you will even text in the answers to the question of the day. So thank you for that as well. Okay. I was going to do this yesterday but didn’t get a chance to get to it. We had lots of other interaction calls and so on, which for the rest of the show today, I’ve only got one other guest at 5 o’clock. So we’ve got plenty of time. If there’s something on your mind, something you want to talk about, by all means, let us know. 303-477-5600. But following the tragic news of what happened over the weekend. You know, in regards to all sorts of things, but especially the things happening, you know, the flooding that happened in Texas, which I talked about that yesterday. There were so many – and there always is from the left – but so many just flat-out floods. false claims by the left regarding not only the the weather service and what was happening along those lines but then of course some of the nasty comments about you know individuals that had you know lost lives and loved ones and so on in some cases keep in mind it was a children’s camp that got hurt the most out of this which again i don’t know all of the circumstances surrounding that. I had several of you texting in even late last night after I got home just wondering, not being accusational, but just wondering, okay, if you’re in charge of a children’s camp that has a river running through it and you’ve got this much torrential rain coming down, What are you doing? And again, I don’t know, folks. I don’t know if they were doing anything at that point in time, if they were trying to get people to higher ground, if it just came so fast they had no ability to do that. I don’t know. Those are things that I’m sorry to say we may never have any answers to. It depends on what kind of survivors or things that they end up finding. We may never know some of those answers because, believe me, I was thinking through some of the same things. I don’t know. But again, some of the just… Just grossness. that comes out of the left, and things along these lines, you know, the old saying, the bodies aren’t even cold yet, and yet the left is out just attacking conservatives and Trump and policies and so on. Senator Chris Murphy, these are consequences to Trump’s brainless attacks. Democrat House Leader Hakeem Jeffries, Republicans spent months threatening to condition disaster assistance, and on and on it goes. It’s absolutely… I can just keep going, but the reality is the left shows no mercy. They’re totally brainless at times, totally insensitive. All these people that have been affected by those floods, and again, they have lost. In some cases, I was reading this morning, my wife was telling me there was a set of twin girls at the camp. I mean, I can’t imagine being the parents. of some of these children and having to hear all of this and then yet at the same time you’ve got an entire political party that’s doing nothing but attacking rather than trying to console these individuals you know they’re talking about how it’s because of the lack of staffing at the national weather service which by the way wasn’t the case at all there was actually more people on staff at the national weather service so there’s so much just gross neglect coming out of the left regarding this particular situation in texas that I don’t know how anybody could be affected by this. In other words, you’re somebody that’s lost somebody in this. And if you were somebody on that side of the aisle, which, believe it or not, those of you that are on the left, there are still liberals in conservative areas like Texas, and we have no idea what each children’s parents’ political affiliation was or wasn’t. and yet you guys are going to come out and attack these particular individuals in some cases. Some people, there was even a, I didn’t, well, maybe I’ve got it up here, Charlie. I don’t know, Charlie, if you sent me this or somebody else sent me this. Former Houston mayor appointee rages at flooded Texas girls camp for being white only. So we’re even going to go down that path now. So, again, we’re not consoling the individuals that actually lost loved ones. We’re now going to accuse that camp of being white only. I mean, again, the left has absolutely no conscience whatsoever. They don’t care. I said this a million times. I’ll keep saying it. 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And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Marty, what’s going on?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I want to just kind of get us right back onto the historic moment that has been brought to us with the Epstein last 48 hours. The relentless nature, John, that you described coming from the left, that’s not going anywhere. What is leaving out the front door, and we talked about Iran in this, but the MAGA support, Trump is actively losing fans, wearing down the MAGA supporter. This one is a betrayal that I don’t know that we’ve seen come from that level of office. We’ve had some really scumbag. This betrayal.
SPEAKER 15 :
How so, Marty? First of all, let’s back up and tell everybody. So the Epstein thing, which I’ve not covered a lot on this program, frankly, because, Frank, I’ll be straight up honest, Marty, I’m probably one of the few conservatives that doesn’t care one way or the other at the end of the day. Never did a whole lot for me one way or the other. Lots of scumbags do lots of scummy things. But the reality is, at the end of the day, doesn’t change the outcome of politics one iota. So I never spent much time on the whole Epstein thing all along. So for those of you that maybe haven’t been caught up. There were supposedly an Epstein list. Again, I say supposedly because nobody’s ever seen it. Nobody’s proved that it exists or didn’t exist, no matter what anybody says. There’s lots of conspiracies. I know Marty around that. But the reality is nobody’s ever seen the list, no matter what Snowden or anybody else would say, by the way. All of those are conspiracies. So the reality is there was supposedly a list that all the clients on it and that that was going to be made public by the DOJ. In fact, Pam Bondi said something to the effect of there’s, you know, I have this on my desk now. you’d have to dive into that a little bit more and say what was on her desk. Did she even look through it at that point? Did she know what was inside of it? I’m not giving anybody a pass here, Marty, but I’m not going to go as far as you to say this is a total betrayal because nobody knows what was inside of any of that, you included.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, no, no, no, no. They have let us know plenty of what’s inside of this. Who has? We’ve known since 2016 and then, of course, the arrest and then death of Jeffrey Epstein. unresolved matter for many years now, and it brought us up until today.
SPEAKER 15 :
An unresolved matter, how? Again, Marty, I’m going to be a devil’s advocate here. What does knowing who or who is not on this list, let’s say there is a list, and let’s say it gets made public, which I said early on, I told everybody even way back when, you can go back and even listen to me, that if there is one, you’ll never know it anyways when it’s all said and done. I said that way back when. Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
reality is if it exists and there are names on it what does it change at the end of the day well it changes this whole power structure that you were kind of describing about who’s elected who’s in office but how so marty so let’s just pretend well let’s just pretend for example chuck schumer’s uh committed a crime there total speculation but just for example a high you know i
SPEAKER 15 :
OK, this is a good speculation. Let’s take somebody like a Chuckie Schumer or a Hakeem Jeffries, who is now in charge of the minority of the House. So let’s just say that, for example, one of those two names or both of them are on there. I’m sorry to say, Marty, but for their voters in their areas, it doesn’t change a thing unless they can be proven they did something so egregious that they go to jail. There’s nothing there that changes the outcome of their elections.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. So you’ve got two things working. And I think you and I are in agreement. Of all the heinous crimes that you could commit on the planet Earth, predatory actions toward a child is number one. Absolutely. Least forgivable. Absolutely. Okay, so just the fact that being attached to this and litigation happening to this, I am telling you, even the sickest of sick Democrats… They have a pause. So but here’s not I’m not going after just Democrats because I know they’re scumbag Republicans. That’s right. It’s on both sides. That’s right. Be demanding. Exactly. And so what we’re saying is we as the people were promised you want to get you want to clean up the swamp. You start with that list. They’ve already acknowledged the list. They’ve already acknowledged the video evidence. Pam Bondi, Cash Patel have both said that the FBI hasn’t. heinous videos up to 10 000 and they they don’t say that there’s any other johns but jeffrey epstein and we don’t believe as the people that this was a matter of national security because some of these documents are classified under national security what on earth if this person is attached to no one the greatest pedophile ring is now classified national security that won’t fly none of this stuff and this is the consequences of a captured president. This is the greatest fall that you will ever witness because he had a meteoric rise. And the fall, the betrayal that’s taking place right now, it’s going to take MAGA a few days to wake up out of their stupor and realize, now, what did he just say? He’s now giving weapons to Ukraine. He’s best friends. I mean, absolute lovers with Bibi. And then he’s talking bad on Putin. Putin’s a liar. Putin’s full of it. This and that. And the other John, in the blink of an eye, oh, and we signed the horrendous, big, beautiful bill, which folks know what’s coming. From a federalized, centralized tracking, AI cannot be touched at the state level. This is dangerous territory. It’s the consequences of $250 million from AIPAC, John.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, this is where you and I will have to agree to disagree because I don’t see all of what you said having the negative effects that you do, including – and I am with you, Marty. I’m 100% with you in regards to the whole pedophilia end of things. And, yes, anytime anybody harms a kid in any way, shape, or form, whether it’s sexually, whether it’s physically, mentally – It shouldn’t happen no matter what, Marty. I’m on your side as far as that goes. But when it comes to all of the rest of this, you know me, I’m one of those where let’s wait and see what actually ends up happening, what actually ends up, you know, is there really a list? Is there not a list? Is there proof there’s a list? And so on. Because the reality, Marty, over time, all that stuff ends up coming out. It can’t be hidden forever if, in fact, that exists. And I’m one to say that, you know, I went through the big, beautiful bill the last hour with Jordan Goodman. There’s a lot of things in it that I don’t like. There’s a lot of things in it that I wish we would have done differently. There’s a lot of things in it I wish we wouldn’t have done at all. But the reality, Marty, is you’re not, and I’ve talked about this for several weeks now, you’re not going to get everything out of that bill, period, no matter what. It is what it is. You’ve got to compromise and get whatever you can out of it.
SPEAKER 05 :
MAGA folks, just wake up and smell what’s happening around you. The America First agenda.
SPEAKER 15 :
But really quick, Marty, and I talked about this yesterday in regards to even what happened to me at Fourth of July in Mexico, which, by the way, they do a better job of celebrating than we do here. Here’s the reality of what MAGA is forgetting, though. There is a bigger market of voters out there besides MAGA. MAGA is not the only voter base out there, and you’re not going to win. And it’s proven here in Colorado. You can’t win elections in Colorado with just MAGA, Marty. It’s not going to happen. You’ll lose every time.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, you’re so right. And the House and the Senate and guys in the Donald Trump mode, they have no margin for error. They can’t lose any MAGA. MAGA was the greatest political fan base in the history of this country. Won’t deny that. If not the world. I won’t deny that.
SPEAKER 15 :
But you have to remember, too, that even in the last election, it wasn’t just MAGA that got Donald Trump elected. He did a really good job of reaching across, you know, not the aisle, but to the middle, if you would, and getting a lot of even young male voters. And I talked about that even at that time, how a lot of male voters were just disenfranchised with the other side and what they had done. and the way they treated men, and on and on we go. And Donald Trump did a great job of bringing a lot of those folks in, because he couldn’t have won the last election with just MAGA.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I’m sure he gained fans and the Democrats lost fans. And so there’s no doubt that that MAGA expanded its fan base. But I can tell you right now it’s eroding faster than it’s attracting new.
SPEAKER 15 :
And that’s where I will disagree with you. I think there’s hard core. of MAGA that might be eroded, might be disenfranchised, might be on the Elon Musk train where they want a new party, which, by the way, is the dumbest thing you could ever say because that’s going to do nothing but draw things away and make it even worse to get people elected on down the road. I think there is a core along those lines that I will agree with you wholeheartedly, Marty, that are feeling very duped, if you would. Although I will tell you, and I experienced this on vacation, I talked to a lot of different people on purpose to find out, you know, Where do they come from? You kind of get an idea from people when you start talking to them what side of the aisle politically they’re on. And I will tell you this, Marty, I didn’t talk to one single conservative that’s against Donald Trump on vacation. Not one.
SPEAKER 05 :
OK, and that’s that next leg, though. That’s that next shoe. People don’t really appreciate the impact of the Epstein list. And I know you’re not there yet, John. But what this did is it cemented. It put in perpetuity this deep state corrupted power. We’re untouchable. You’re down there and we’re up here. You and I both know that because the FBI runs around all the time. Department of Justice news flashes. Oh, we busted this human sex trafficking ring. We busted this. We wanted that one. Because that one has if it has. There’s theories out there, Marty, floating around.
SPEAKER 15 :
I read some of them today that basically said that, you know, this is as much the the CIA and the FBI internally saying don’t release anything. If there is anything to release, don’t release anything, because that takes away our ability to actually use it against some of these guys in other areas. So I have no idea, Marty. That’s just hearsay that I heard today.
SPEAKER 05 :
All we’re looking for, John, is that first promise kept outside of the border. He closed the border. We give him that. The deportations are way behind schedule. But I’m still smelling, sniffing, looking everywhere I can. I want to find that America first thing start to happen. And what I find going on, John. is Trump is now looking much more like all the rest of them. Promises said.
SPEAKER 15 :
Marty, first of all, you guys on that side need to slow down a little bit, take a deep breath, and then look at, like I tell my kids at times, Look at all of the accomplishments and the other things that are actually happening. I spent the last hour even talking about and arguing over what are tariffs going to do when it’s all said and done. I will tell you this, Marty, Donald Trump is the first Republican president, not only president, but first Republican president we’ve had that will take a stand against the foreign countries that have been fleecing us, you know, for I don’t know how many decades now. So you can’t say that he’s the same as the rest. That’s that’s inaccurate, Marty.
SPEAKER 05 :
When it comes to the really big stuff like… That is really big, Marty.
SPEAKER 15 :
Those are things that will affect all of us on a day-to-day basis when it comes to us living out our lives and being able to afford to do the things that we do. That is big. It’s huge, Marty.
SPEAKER 05 :
I’m willing to trust that plan. I’m just saying economically, prices, I mean, yeah, you’ve got to dip in housing prices a little bit. But for the most part, food’s still really expensive. Energy bills haven’t come down. Gas is still hanging out at that same price. So, again, sounds good. No, no, no, Marty. Gas is down.
SPEAKER 15 :
Since Donald Trump took president, I know because I buy a ton of fuel on a monthly basis. Gas is down 75 cents a gallon. You’re not right in what you’re saying there. You’re completely wrong. What? 75 cents a gallon, Marty.
SPEAKER 05 :
I would ask that that gets verified.
SPEAKER 15 :
Marty, I buy fuel by the thousands of gallons a month. I can tell you how much it’s down.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I was just doing it twice in two days. And when I see these prices of, you know, $2.75 to $3, right, you’re in that category. That’s not really influential money change right there. So, again, I’m asking for where’s the economic relief? Where’s the significant gain in employment?
SPEAKER 15 :
Marty, really quick, and you should know this, but lesson for you and everybody else listening. When you are large operations that are using hundreds of thousands of gallons of fuel a year, and the price can drop by even 50 cents a gallon, and that lowers your overall cost of goods, meaning you can pass that back along, which is what they do when it comes to food prices and so on, you’re darn tootin’. It has a major effect upon everybody out there listening, you and I included. Absolutely does.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s going to be really tough to say that because the gas bill for XYZ shipping company manufacturer, because they got a little reprieve, I don’t think that that savings comes right to mom and dad immediately. Absolutely it does.
SPEAKER 15 :
You hear me, Scott? Regardless, talk on Thursdays, Marty, when we talk about even the reality of some of the tariffs that have actually been implemented and we’re actually paying for at the end of the day because the actual shipping costs to get said items over here, it ends up being a wash. The tariffs go up, but the price to get the goods here go down. So at the end of the day, that’s why, by the way, the Fed isn’t considering this, but that’s why there’s been no inflation up to this point, because even when there are tariffs, we’re spending less to get the items here.
SPEAKER 05 :
Let me just be clear. I’m supportive of the tariff and that agenda. I am. I’m just saying that has to play out. We don’t even have trade deals with major players yet. So to give so much credit yet, we still are to be determined on the China deal is all
SPEAKER 15 :
But they’ve got to get things signed, sealed, delivered, get all of the the major, you know, you know, get all the fine tuning, I guess you could say, of that done. But for the most part, that’s where I was even questioning Jordan a little bit. The China deal is basically done. We’ve got other countries that need to come to the table. And part of what Donald Trump sent letters out today and basically telling these knuckleheads, listen, we’re not going to dance around this forever. You guys are going to get this stuff figured out by the end of the month or I’m going to just tear off your period. Here it is. You still there, Marty? Did I lose you? I think I lost.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, there you are. You were there. Go ahead. Sorry about that. You know, you’re right. And let’s just give them the credit of they’re eventually going to want to do business with the United States. They don’t have a choice. We’ll come to you.
SPEAKER 15 :
For the first time, and I say this a lot, but for the first time in a long time, we have a president that understands we are the world’s largest customer. Start treating us like one.
SPEAKER 05 :
You’re 100 percent right. I give him full credit. And I guess this is where I’m trying to go is that, dang, is that going to be enough, though, to carry us over the other things that we’re just we’re just still involved with?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, the next thing, Marty, that’s got to happen, and I think Trump knows this fully, is we’ve got to get this everything all dialed in. We’ve got to get the Fed to bring interest rates down at least a full point so you can get some reprieve on the housing end of things so you can put some life back into it because it’s dead right now, if not going the other direction. I mean, we’re going to have to really resuscitate it if it continues on much longer. I do believe Donald Trump knows all of that. And we won’t do well in 2026 unless you fix what I just said. That one, by the way, of all things, Marty, that we’re talking about, even groceries, gas and so on, it’s the price of the interest rate alone. on your mortgage that will have more to do with 2026 than even the Epstein list does?
SPEAKER 05 :
Here’s where I would say, though, the concern is we haven’t added new houses. The second you drop interest rates, I now know your payment has some room. The price of my house just went up. See, we don’t have enough pieces to spread out amongst these. So now if I can just get to a $2,000 a month mortgage, we can do it. We don’t have those kind of houses. And the second that interest rates are cheap, my house just got more valuable. Six fifty, seven fifty, eight hundred. There’s nothing in our area.
SPEAKER 15 :
And that’s why I had a conversation with a listener yesterday about is there a is there a bubble in Colorado when it comes to housing? And the reality is because of what you just said, Marty. No, there is not. There might be some. pockets in Colorado where you might see some dips and things like that. But Colorado is still an area where more people are moving in and they want to buy houses and there’s not enough to go around. Now, on the same token, Marty, and I’ve talked to some folks along these lines, you can go to right now Las Vegas. There’s some places even in Arizona. There’s places all through Florida where what you and I are talking about doesn’t work. It’s totally different there.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and just the shame of the way we’ve constructed our financial setup today, which is inflationary. And as this is going on, our dollars are eroding. So there’s a number of things at play here. I mean, just think about it, just the privilege here. both mom and dad working to buy a basic old home. You know, that’s a tragedy.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and I’m glad you said that because this is another one that I talked about. There’s another one I talked about, I believe, not last week because I was gone, but the week before, Marty, and I’m glad you just brought that up because keep in mind, one of the things that always bothers me when people talk about Buying your first home, and I can’t afford to buy that home, and I can’t do this, and I can’t do that. I’ve reminded people. I had a conversation with some folks on vacation along these lines, and I think they finally saw the light and realized that, oh, yeah, okay, wait a minute. Time out. I never really thought about it that way. Marty, these same people. that will complain about not being able to afford their first home are buying homes that are on average double or triple the size of my first 900-square-foot home. So the reality is the expectations of what I should be able to buy, because mom and dad live in such and such, my point is, Marty, that there’s a lot of folks out there, even listening to me right now, that want to go out and buy their first home that need the lower expectations, and they could probably afford to do so if they did, but they don’t want to.
SPEAKER 05 :
But if you’ve got to move to Pueblo to find that 900 square foot house, how do you keep your job? See, math just doesn’t work. These mortgage payments, there’s not a lot of jobs that can pay a $3,000 and up mortgage. But guess what? That’s what it costs. It does in this area.
SPEAKER 15 :
And Marty, you’re right. If you want to live, and I say this all the time, if you want to live in Colorado, yes, that’s what it takes. And that’s why our cost of living in Colorado is more than it is in, let’s say, Birmingham, Alabama, for example, where you could go there and live for probably less than half of what we do here. And there’s all sorts of places along those lines. So with every choice, Marty, there is an upside and a downside. Absolutely. Absolutely. And as a Colorado native, believe me, I’ve watched all of these things change over the years, and I’m not going to tell you that I’m happy about it. But, you know, on the same token, Marty, we live in an area that a lot of people love. I look out to the west of these windows of mine, and you know what I’m talking about. I sit here and I look at the front range, and the reality is as you get closer and closer to those mountains, the higher and higher the property values are, and you’re never going to change that.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I think that’s what we’ve come to. It’s just more tragic than a solution is inches away. Lowering rates helps the wealthy. We know that. And so, unfortunately, it is a don’t spend because they’re flashing places for you to spend all your extra money everywhere, whatever subscription, whatever $7 drink. I think it’s a moment where the American consumer says, holy cow, these things that were sort of thrown at us as nice luxuries of the United States, are actually causing our demise because we can’t afford the basics and the debt. I can’t argue that.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, and Marty, I do think that’s an area where I think there’s a lot of people out there that really need to take a hard look at what am I spending money on? What do I need? I mean, Marty, I’ll be the first to tell you, and this is not to brag. It’s just because I value certain things differently. I’m a guy that probably could look at somebody that has half of the income that I have and yet probably has twice the television services I do.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 15 :
That’s the problem, Marty.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep. And they know we’re suckers for that privilege. We were just talking, this is the last thing, and John, great call, but thank you for it. No, it’s good. You know, when we were kids, it was blockbuster video, famous video, Friday night. Our kids now could literally watch any movie they want seven days a week, any time of day. Right. And you think, how great. No, no. How awful. So reject it. Go to the library families and just take your money and put it in the kingdom somewhere. I’m with you. Absolutely, Marty.
SPEAKER 15 :
I’ll close on a good note on that one. I agree with you 100% on that one. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 05 :
Good stuff, John.
SPEAKER 15 :
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SPEAKER 15 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Really quick, I did want to add back to before we talked to Marty. I was talking about the particular gal from Texas. She was a former mayoral appointee. In fact, she worked on the food shortage or the food desert, whatever you want to call it, committee. And anyways, she had put out some social media things and got some backlash on it. And this is the kind of people that we’re talking to when I talk about those that are on the left. Not everybody, but there’s a good portion of them that I think are very much this way. a person, girl, responded to her and said, in response to her getting attacked on social media for some of her stances, she says, girl, you brought this upon yourself. Freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from the consequences. By the way, well said. Very true. We’ll give you the ability to say whatever you want to, but just remember, there may be some backlash on that. You may be held accountable for what you said. So, this gal, though, I can’t say this word on air. I think you’ll all know what the word is. And I can’t say it because, number one, it’s not a word I use, nor would I use this word, say this word. But this particular gal, again, she comes back and says, consequences for what? With three laugh emojis. Maybe it was God with a little g, God’s will to wash them little c’s away. I mean, that is as vile and as vulgar and as rude as could ever be to individuals that lost their kids at that camp. Again, folks, I’m telling you. This isn’t just a right versus left issue. This is a good versus evil issue like we talk about a ton, not only on this program, but all across the Crawford Network, including the National Crawford Roundtable. Literally, these are the types of things that prove this is good versus evil. This is more spiritual warfare than it is anything else, because this is good versus evil. When you’ve got freaks like this… that are saying the things that she’s saying, not giving any condolences to those that have lost their kids in this total tragedy. She has those things to say instead. So those of you that are on the left, this is you. These are your people. And I’ll tell you this, I see very little anywhere, social media or otherwise, that condemn these sorts of individuals on the left. I can tell you this right now, and I can promise you this, and Charlie knows this as well, because he could vouch for this. If this had been something said from our side, among any other types of situations, I would be condemning it the next day on air.
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
SPEAKER 15 :
I would not put up with that nonsense, period, no matter what side of the aisle it’s coming from. Either side of the aisle it’s coming from. I mean, when you’ve got people that in some cases may have lost all of their kids, I don’t know. We’ll hear more and more stories as they come out. But then to have these sorts of individuals, and I get it, she’s a low life when it’s all said and done. It’s just an appointee. But, again, had a little bit of quote-unquote clout. Sadie Perkins, or Perkins, I should say, is her name. When you’ve got these type of vile individuals spewing out the things that they spew, you really have to think about, you know, What’s going on here? And yes, in my opinion, this really is good versus evil. Go ahead, Joe.
SPEAKER 06 :
John, I’ll go you one better. This is a tweet by somebody known as Cindy Steinberg, who has a Twitter page called at rad underscore reflections. And it and I won’t say the word, but she her tweet is F these white kids. I’m glad there are now a few less colonizers in the world now, and I don’t care whose bootlicking fragile egos that offends. White kids are just future fascists, and we need more floods in these areas, in these inbred sundown towns.
SPEAKER 15 :
Unbelievable.
SPEAKER 06 :
Sick people full of hate, John.
SPEAKER 15 :
Sick and twisted, and again, Joe, it goes back to my whole good versus evil, and you just proved the point again.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. And John, regarding the people who are blaming Trump, I’ve actually got some data on that area if you want to hear it about the flood history of that area. Sure, go ahead. You know, obviously people are blaming Donald Trump. He cuts the National Weather Service, and clearly we have hard evidence that they started issuing flood warnings 14 hours earlier. That area has been known as Flash Flood Alley for decades.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Because it’s got a 150-year recorded history. It goes back either further, but They only have records going back to 1868 of that area continually being subject to the floods. And it got that name decades ago based on that history, some far deadlier than the ones that occurred this past weekend. And, for instance, in 1921, which was 104 years ago, a flood caused the river to rise 36 feet, which is 10 feet higher than this last crest. And it killed thousands. Not 90 people. It killed 215 people. Now, was man-made climate change responsible for that 1921 flood or the four previous deadly floods going back to 1868? No. How many cars were on the road in 1868, John?
SPEAKER 15 :
Zero.
SPEAKER 06 :
How many cars in 1921?
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, not a whole lot because Henry Ford had just cranked up the Model T a few years earlier, so still wasn’t that many floating around, Joe.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, so the people that are blaming Trump and National Weather Service, it’s all bunk. Again, that weather has been getting worse. Again, it got the name Flash Flood Alley decades ago.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, and again, this is where I’m not trying to judge because I don’t know the situation. I don’t know what was going on inside of the camp. I don’t know what folks were doing that were there. But I just in the back of my mind have to wonder that, okay, if you know this stuff is coming and you’re paying attention to the weather, which you should be given the circumstances of where you are as to what you just explained, Joe, somebody there, I hate to say this, but somebody screwed up.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, big time, big time.
SPEAKER 15 :
Sorry, I don’t know how else to say it. I’m not trying to be mean to anybody because that same person that messed up probably isn’t alive today, but somebody messed up, Joe.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and probably more than one person, but, you know, there were several camps there, John, and so it wasn’t just one camp, but, yeah, people messed up big time. And it didn’t help, by the way, they were in an area, some of those areas had no cell phone reception, so you wouldn’t have even got, you know, in my town, I get a storm alert on my phone. I don’t know if you get it. I do.
SPEAKER 15 :
I do.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, but if you’re in an area where no cell phone reception.
SPEAKER 15 :
Also, Joe, and this is what we talk about on Ready Radio all the time on Friday, so then you need to have a weather radio that just picks up natural frequencies, and you should have that there at all times.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep, to this day, John, I still have a, it’s battery operated, but it’s also got a little hand crank.
SPEAKER 15 :
Absolutely, I do too. I still have them too, Joe, just in case.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, a little hand crank radio, just in case. Yeah. Hey, John, can we real quick just go back to the alleged list real quick?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes, yes. I’ve got about five minutes. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, first of all, if such a list existed and Trump’s name was on it, Why wouldn’t the Biden DOJ have leaked it last fall?
SPEAKER 07 :
They would have.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, because, you know, they knew it was a close race. They knew Kamala might.
SPEAKER 15 :
I would go as far as to say this, Joe, even if they knew there was some on their side, but there was enough on our side to have a negative effect upon the election, which, by the way, could have, depending upon, you know, going back to Marty’s point, if in fact that’s what, you know, would have happened if some of some of these would have had, you know, more serious implications, let’s say. You know, you’re darn tootin’ that they would have released that, Joe.
SPEAKER 06 :
And I’ll go you one better. Now, Merrick Garland, our former head of the Department of Justice, and James Comey, both Trump haters. Right. If that list had existed, they would have seen it. Now, with the administration coming out yesterday saying there is no list, without having to divulge names, if they had seen such a list, wouldn’t they be out on every talk show in town right now saying, Bull, that list exists. We saw it. The administration is lying to you.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yep, they would be.
SPEAKER 06 :
The fact that they aren’t doing that, John, ought to tell you that the list never existed.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and that’s kind of what I keep coming back to, Joe, is, you know, I just and I’m not to argue with all of the hardcore MAGA supporters that are out there, which, by the way, I mean, I’m a hardcore Trump supporter as well. I wanted him to win. I voted for him, voted for him three times, by the way. I mean, the reality is I wanted him to do what he’s doing right now. But I’m also not so so hardcore that I’m blinded by other things that there might actually be an answer to. And the reality is, to your point, maybe there is no list.
SPEAKER 06 :
Again, if there was, I’m sure Comey and Garland would be on every talk show.
SPEAKER 15 :
To your point, Joe, Charlie has a saying. Two words. People talk. So in other words, when there’s all these sorts of conspiracies and different things that are rolling around and different things that, you know, that we think are there and so on, the reality, Joe, is, as you know, and everybody else knows, nothing is ever totally kept secret. If there was something that big, especially on this level, you can be rest assured we’d know about it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Sure. Because, by the way, let’s assume for a minute the list didn’t exist. Do you think if that list existed that Merrick Garland and James Comey would have been the only two people in the entire Department of Justice who ever saw it?
SPEAKER 15 :
No.
SPEAKER 06 :
No. There would have to be a dozen people who saw it.
SPEAKER 15 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 06 :
So if the list existed, why haven’t any of those dozen or more people come forward? Great question. Great question. Absolutely. Good answer. They can’t. Because if they did say that, they’d get called before a congressional hearing, and they’d be forced to testify under oath. that the list existed and that would encourage you, and they wouldn’t do that.
SPEAKER 15 :
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SPEAKER 14 :
This is TJ with KLZ Radio, and I’ve got Al Smith from Golden Eagle Financial here in the studio with me. Al and I were just talking about how in retirement he helps his clients to stretch the time in their retirement. Al, what do you mean by that? Tell us a little bit more about how time works in retirement.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, when you think about leaving the working world, you think about, well, it’s still going to take money to live on once I’m retired. And that nest egg, whatever that is, that’s going to permit you to do what you want to do with the time that you have sort of earned for yourself. So the nest egg is not only in dollars, but it’s also in the time that you have to do the things that you believe will be fulfilling in retirement. And when I have a conversation with people, I think it’s equally important to think about how they’re going to be spending their time as it is to accumulate a nest egg.
SPEAKER 14 :
You’ve got to have some pretty good examples of things that people do in retirement. So open the door for us. What sort of things can we expect?
SPEAKER 12 :
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SPEAKER 14 :
How do people get in touch with you if they want to stretch that time out in their retirement?
SPEAKER 12 :
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SPEAKER 15 :
All right, got a few minutes here left. And what I want to close out with for this hour is really speak to a lot of the folks that even Marty was talking about. And I consider myself, as I told Joe a moment ago, a hardcore MAGA supporter as well. I mean, I wanted Donald Trump to win. went through that whole process, voted for him three times. Once he became our primary candidate and all of that was a done deal, of course, we were on board and off we went, even as a show. I would have told you this, though. If he hadn’t had been the primary winner and somebody else had been, Would I have been for them? Absolutely. My allegiance doesn’t change based upon person. My allegiance is to the party. And that’s probably where I differ from a lot of you that are out there, because I know that if we don’t move forward as a party, we don’t win. We lose. Anytime we start splintering off and not staying true to the party. And is the party perfect? No. No more than your family is perfect. No more than you are perfect. No more than the company that you own is perfect. No more than the church that you attend is perfect. You get my drift? Nothing’s perfect, folks. The GOP is not perfect. It has many things going on in it that need to be fixed and taken care of absolutely. Is it all the RINOs’ fault? No. Is it all the MAIA supporters’ fault? No. It’s just the way things are sometimes. And the reality is, yes, we still keep working hard for the things that we believe in. But at the end of the day, if we don’t come together and figure out a way to move the R forward, the Ds win. Period. And there are people listening who say, well, I’m not either. I’m always independent. No, you’re not. You can say that, but no, you’re not. Because you will pick a side, especially when it comes to voting and putting, you know, filling in the letter, you know, next to the filling in the circle next to the name or pulling the lever, depending upon what state you’re in or whatever the case may be. You’re not independent. You may think you are, but you’re not. When it comes down to it, you’re picking a side or you’re just not voting. I guess if you’re an independent and you don’t vote. And I’ve always told my people, even that have always worked for me. If you don’t vote, then don’t complain. Your vote is the way for you to express your complaint, if you would. Elect someone else rather than the folk that are there right now. And if you’re not voting, then stop complaining. Stop your whining. But I’m also one that doesn’t believe in splintering off of a party like what Elon Musk is wanting to do just because you don’t like what the party’s doing. That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard, and I talked about that yesterday. Elon’s an extremely, extremely smart guy, except in this area. In this area, he’s as dumb as a rock. I’m sorry to say he just is. He’s as dumb as a rock. He’s not looking at it correctly. He’s letting his emotions outweigh his reason. And any time we do that as human beings, we have a really bad outcome. And any of you listening to me should know that. When you let emotions dictate what you’re doing over what you should be doing on the reason end of things, you know, what common sense tells you to do, you’re going to find yourself on the wrong end of the stick when it’s all said and done. So one more hour coming your way. Don’t go anywhere. This is Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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