Explore the different dimensions of freedom, from financial independence to legislative transparency, in the context of contemporary America with The Kim Monson Show. Learn about the intricacies of the ‘Big Beautiful Bill’ and how it aims to reform bureaucratic spending, influence environmental policies, and bolster American production. Alongside, reflect on historic struggles for liberty and find out why now, more than ever, engaged citizenship is essential. Whether it’s through community advocacy or innovative sponsorships, find your role in shaping a resilient future.
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With what is happening down at the Statehouse, I used to think that it was above my pay grade to read the legislation, and it’s not.
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I see big danger in as much as we will be giving an unelected bureaucrat the power to make rules about what we inject into our bodies.
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indeed let’s have a conversation and welcome to the kim monson show thank you so much for joining us you’re each treasured you’re valued you have purpose today strive for excellence take care of your heart your soul your mind and your body my friends we were made for this moment in history and thank you to the team that i get to work with that’s producer joe luke rachel zach echo charlie mike theresa amanda and all the people here at crawford broadcasting happy thursday producer joe Happy Thursday, Kim. And Joe, last night the girls came over, so I took advantage of the Hooters Wednesday Wings Day special. You buy 20 wings, you get an additional 10 for free, and that’s for to go or to dine in. And they have great specials for lunch and for happy hour as well. Their locations are Westminster, Loveland, and the one on Parker Road, the one in Lone Tree near me, Their final day is going to be this Sunday. So be sure and drop by between now and Sunday and wish them all very, very well. Hooters Restaurants will continue to be a sponsor of both the Kim Monson Show and America’s Veterans Stories, and I greatly appreciate that. how I got to know them. It’s a really important story when I was on city council. And it’s a story about the proper role of government and PBIs, politicians and bureaucrats and interested parties that try to control things instead of allow the free markets and capitalism to to exist, and that whole story is on my website. You can check that out. But again, I greatly appreciate Hooters restaurants and thank them for all that they do for us. Let’s see, let’s get into several of these things here. First thing, I think you’ll love the word of the day, and it is pugnacious. And it is spelled, Eric, I know that you want the spelling on this, so hold on here. It’s P-U-G-N-A-C-I-O-U-S, pugnacious. It’s an adjective, and it could be combative in nature or belligerent, disposed to fight. inclined to fighting quarrelsome or fighting. I would say that the definition of the radical activists on the left that have taken over the Democrat Party are quite pugnacious. So your challenge is to use pugnacious in a sentence today. Second hour, we’ll be talking with Rob Nadelson and he reached out. He said, Kim, I do this in Montana and I think it’d be great to do here in out of the Denver market as well. And that is ask Rob Nadelson. And so we’ll be talking about the Supreme Court. the Constitution, and that will be in the second hour, the second, third, and fourth segments. You can call in. That number is 303-477-5600. And don’t be shy, but if you are shy, you can text me at 720-605. 0647. And because of that, I was looking for Constitution quotes for the day. And I’ve got a great one with, let’s see, Abraham Lincoln at the end of the show. But I found this from Andrew Napolitano. He was born in 1950. He’s an American jurist and syndicated columnist whose work appears in numerous publications. including the Washington Times and Reason Magazine. He served as a New Jersey Superior Court judge, and he also served as a visiting professor at Widener University, Delaware Law School, Seton Hall University of Law, and the Brooklyn Law School, and he’s a regular on Fox as well. So this is what he said. All presidents but Jefferson have argued that their first job was to keep us safe. All presidents but Jefferson were wrong. If you read the Constitution, you will see that the president’s first job, as Jefferson understood well, is to keep us free. And that is, I think, a terrific quote from Andrew Napolitano. Next thing I wanted to mention, I talked with a friend of mine yesterday and I hadn’t really thought about it. I think one of you had texted in yesterday when Trent Luce was on the show. Trent is a sixth generation farmer and rancher. We talk about issues that affect rural America, rural Colorado, the people that feed and fuel us. And one of you texted in a question about, should we be concerned about China buying up a whole bunch of American farmland? And afterwards, I hadn’t seen that. I asked Trent about it. Or maybe I did it on the air. Now I can’t remember. And he said, we really probably should be more concerned with all the land that Bill Gates is buying up, all the producing land, because Bill Gates is not so interested in everybody thriving and flourishing. So he said to be concerned about that. But then my colleague called and said, Kim, I am so concerned about the Chinese buying land next to our Air Force bases. And it kind of stopped me in my tracks. I hadn’t really thought about it. But just think about the fact that your enemy is right next to your Air Force bases, think about the B-2s that did the mission to take out those nuclear facilities in Iran. If you have your enemy that is right next to your Air Force bases, they could have seen those B-2s take off. They could have followed them. This is a real problem, and so we’ve got to get that addressed. Not quite sure how to crack that nut on that, but that is something that we need to do for sure. A couple of other things that, let’s see, I wanted to mention, oh, our 50, we’re going through these 50 wins in the Big Beautiful Bill. This is from whitehouse.gov, and today is number 16, 17, 18, 19, and 20. So 16 says it refills the, okay, this is the big, beautiful bill from the White House, 50 things that it accomplishes. 16, it refills the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to safeguard America’s energy security. As we know, Biden drained our Strategic Petroleum Reserve. That seems like that’s a national security issue. So good for Donald Trump and company. 17. It repeals and rescinds every green corporate welfare subsidy in Democrats’ so-called Inflation Reduction Act.
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It stops illegal immigrants from receiving tax credits and tax remittances sent to foreign countries. I’ll have to think about that one to understand it. Number 19, it supports small businesses by increasing the Section 199A deduction to 23%, promoting the growth and success of Main Street. I think Mary Jansen mentioned that yesterday, and she’s going to come back on today. She had some additional thoughts on the big, beautiful bill. She’s one of my fellow board members. on the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. So we’ll talk with her in the next segment. And then number 20, it incentivizes Made in America. The bill rewards companies that build their products in America with lower taxes and allows Americans who buy an American-made vehicle to fully deduct their auto loan interest. So that is number 16 through 20. You can find that at whitehouse.gov. And this is 50 wins in the one big, beautiful bill. Now, I mentioned on a regular basis that we are an independent voice on an independent station. So what that means is that I have full control on guest selection, subject selection. And so we truly, truly are independent. And we’re independent because of all of your support and that I get to work with great sponsors who strive for excellence in their particular businesses. And we have Karen Gorday on the line right now. She is the owner of Radiant Painting and Lighting. And she’s actually on vacation, but she said she was going to call in on her regular weekly update. Karen Gorday, welcome. Thank you, Kim. Good morning. How are you? I am well. And you are back in Washington, D.C., Williamsburg area, yes? Yes. Yes, ma’am.
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We spent the last two days in Williamstown, Yorktown, Jamestown. It’s pretty exciting.
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I have found, I was back to Monticello a few years ago, and standing in these rooms and in the land where our founders walked, I find it so inspiring. So what are you finding?
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I found it very inspiring. There were things that I hate to admit that I forgot over the years or the years since I was in grade school and high school and things that I forgot. And that was really good reminders. And then just what they had to go through, you know, settling in new land and then, you know, rising up against the British. I will tell you the day we were actually in Williamsburg, in colonial Williamsburg, it was 94 degrees with a heat index of 125. And I just couldn’t imagine, you know, back in the day, they didn’t have air conditioning, right? And they’re just exposed to the elements. And really, when you put it all together, what they went through to create our country, It’s something that we should really honor and protect. And it’s that fragile.
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Well, and we are in a very fragile time. I think Colorado is at the tip of the spear of all of this radical activist stuff. And you have taken time to really understand what is happening. Lakewood, I think, is… is an example of what is happening. And I know that you’re on vacation, so I don’t know if you have any updates on that or not. But when you get back, I know that you’re going to be watching that closely as well. So do you have any updates or have you been watching?
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I do actually. I do actually. So the first reading of the ordinance was supposed to be July 28th. Would you believe, because of the outrage, they have decided to slow roll it just a little bit and the first reading was pushed out to august 11th and i really find that remarkable that this is the first time i can even remember them slow rolling something i wouldn’t say it’s really slow roll but but delaying things due to the public concern i think it’s huge
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Well, you’ve been at the forefront on that. You’ve written a very important piece, which I have it on my I have all these different headlines on my outline so that I don’t miss them. And it’s zoned out how Lakewood is selling out its neighborhoods. People can find that in the Lakewood Informer. And then you were recently quoted in the Denver Post regarding this as well.
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That’s correct. And I think in the Denver Post, I was on the phone with the reporter for like 30 minutes and I got one sentence. That’s how it works, right?
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It is.
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But it’s really, you know, hoping that people show up and make a difference. And I will tell you, I think we’ve already made a difference with getting that first reading pushed out. And, you know, I’ve got some things going on behind the scenes that I won’t talk about, but I’ve got some meetings set up for next week. So once I’m back, I can hit the ground running again on this.
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Okay, great. And then you do have a business as well, and that is Radiant Painting and Lighting. And it’s hard to believe we’re through the 4th of July, which means Christmas is right around the corner. So tell me about Christmas in July at Radiant Painting and Lighting.
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Love it. And how can people reach you?
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You can reach us on our website at www.paintwithradiant.com or give us a phone call at 720-940-3887.
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And that’s paintwithradiant.com. Excited to hear all about your trip when you get back. Godspeed on your travels. And thanks so much, Karen.
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Thank you, Kim. Have a great rest of the day.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That’s KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And we were just talking with Karen Gorday. with Radiant Painting and Lighting. She’s back in Virginia, Washington, D.C. area, in the places of our founding, which is so exciting. And she talked about freedom. Well, do you want to have financial freedom? Call our friends at Mint Financial Strategies. As an independent firm and an accredited investment fiduciary, they always put your interests first. Mint means more than money. It stands for a meaningful relationship, information sharing, and a network of smart strategies, a thoughtful advisor who puts you in control. No cookie cutter plans. Everything is tailored to you. Call Mint Financial Strategies today at 303-285-3080. That’s 303-285-3080. And on the line with me is Mary Jansen. We talked with her yesterday. She is a former city councilwoman in Lakewood. She is also one of my fellow Board members, a volunteer, Colorado Union of Taxpayers, Barry Jansen, welcome.
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Good morning, Kim. I don’t know how you do this every day.
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So you’re doing it two days in a row and you’re complaining, huh?
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I kind of slept in a little bit and I heard your voice. I went, oh my, I have to hurry.
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Well, thanks for doing this because I learned a lot about the Big Beautiful Bill yesterday. And then after the show, you had texted me some other information. And I love this. The first thing you said, yes, inch by inch, life is a cinch. Yard by yard, life is hard. Same with dismantling 60 years of government subsidies. Pick art battles, get the income flowing fast. and get our rights back. I loved that, Mary Jansen.
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Well, thank you. You know, that was taught to me by a neighbor. And when I heard that, I said, because I was always so, so many things going on and I didn’t know how to prioritize, you know, what do I need to do first? You know, and that’s when she said that to me, it just sunk in. And it was just kind of a rule I live by. It’s like, you know, I can’t do everything all at once. Let’s do, let’s take what I know I can do And take care of that first. And the Big Beautiful Bill, to me, is the money. We need to get our diamonds back, right? We need to get the money back so we can control what we can.
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Well, and so there’s some other things in the Big Beautiful Bill that you had mentioned. You said it slashes $1.6 trillion in bureaucratic bloat. And that’s not getting a lot of press in the mainstream media, I don’t think.
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Well, they don’t want to get that out because, I mean, the press is against us succeeding. And I did read an article this morning, and it’s from the Politico. And the title is, The People Who Brought You Bill Clinton Want to Introduce You to the Colorado Way. And I think everybody should go to read that because it’s pretty telling. I’m finding things, the breadcrumbs that were left, to me it seems… wow, just in a matter of 10 years, we’ve just lost everything here in Colorado.
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Yeah, the Denver vibe is gone. Denver used to be a place, a destination place. I know some people out of state that were, there was a recording artist that was doing a concert here in Denver and in Salt Lake, probably other cities as well. But they made the conscious decision to go to Utah and and not Colorado, and normally they would come to Colorado. So the Denver vibe, it’s off, and it’s because of this governor and previous Democrat governors and this mayor and then the goofy stuff that’s going on in the suburbs as well, such as Lakewood.
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Right, yeah, it’s all intertwined. It all has to do with money. I’m calling it a heist. I think they were after money. Because they want to put this national, they want to put their ideas national. So what did they first thing they did is they raised our property taxes by 35, 40% on some people, most people. You know, where did that money go? You know, where did that money go? And so they overcollected. And nobody, except for Lakewood, a little bit, lowered their mill levy to help the people out. Nobody else did.
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And they lowered their mill levy because you were on city council and you proposed that, right?
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I did. I proposed it. But what happened is as soon as I was gone, they raised it back up again.
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And the people of Lakewood miss you. They do. They do.
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Yes. They raised it back up again like two months after I was out of office. Yeah. That’s what happens when you don’t have anybody there watching for you. And unfortunately in Colorado, I don’t know what happens. I’m not going to say anything because if you do, you’re considered a denier. But to me, I just feel like I don’t know how we’re going to do this without making sure our elections are safe and secure.
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Well, we’re working on that. Okay, so this piece you mentioned, the people who brought you Bill Clinton want to introduce you to the Colorado Way. I’m going to have to read that. Politico leans to the left, but I need to read that because I don’t know what the Colorado Way is exactly.
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Well, it’s brought to you by the Progressive Policy Institute, so… Go figure what they’re up to. It’s a pretty interesting piece, and I started putting things together, and I said, well, if you’re going to try to introduce you to the Colorado way, how do you do that? Well, you get a show, you get all the money, and you get all the pieces to the game, right? So what was the best way to do that was to increase our property taxes, and I know that was a national thing. But here in Colorado, it just seemed like it was a lot. And I couldn’t, and you try to figure out where did that money go? And then being on cut, I realized that why do we have all these tax credits? You know, what is a tax credit? And then when you start learning what they do with it. That’s how they increase your TABER refund.
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Right. They control. And at this point, let’s just give a quick shout-out to our fellow board members, all volunteers. And you brought up the point. We pay our $25 dues to do this volunteer job. I know, call us crazy. But actually, the founders, they did a lot of stuff on a volunteer basis as well. In fact, put their lives on the lines. But our fellow board members are Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onozorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. Two things. It’s only $25, but we send out information, take positions on legislation during the legislative session. We’ll be taking positions on some of these issues that will be on the ballot in November. And we’re working on our ratings report, which takes a lot of time. But the governor has called a special session, so we’re going to have to roll up our sleeves on that. There are those that think that this special session, because they are hungry for more and more money, is they’re going to try to do something to really go after Tabor. I don’t know that for sure, but, boy, it makes sense.
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It does. It makes sense because they need it so they can do this national rollout, whatever they’re planning, you know, their dastardly deeds. We need just to be ready for it. Back to the big, beautiful bill. Can I just quick, because I know I’m getting close to my time. Yes, please. So, the Colorado Chamber of Commerce raised valid concerns about the market disruption, but the strategic tariff rollout forced China to drop its countermeasures and cut levies on U.S. goods from 125% to 10%. Why is that not in the news?
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You know, that is a direct win for domestic competitiveness. So… There’s a bunch of stuff that’s happening with this big, beautiful bill that the press is not getting out of. And when we listened, you know, Trent was on. God love Trent. I totally understand there’s all this stuff going on, but we really need to focus. Focus on what we need to get back first, and it’s our control of our finances and make sure we’re not in debt so we don’t put ourselves in a position where we can’t fight back.
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Well, economic freedom, and that’s why mint financial strategies on a personal level is so important. And you and I were texting back and forth because one of our listeners said, why is Trent so negative? And so I just asked him that. And I understand, I do understand where you have people that say one thing. We see it all the time here in Colorado with these PBIs. They say one thing. We’ll have Republicans that say that they protect Tabor. And then when we’re looking at the bills and they might have their name on it and it takes away our Tabor refunds. That is frustrating when that happens, Mary.
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Definitely. And we need to let those people know that, hey, don’t mess with my refund. Don’t mess with my money. It’s our money. If people want to give it away, sure, go ahead.
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If they want to give their own money away, they can.
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Own money away. Don’t give my money away. I’ll give my money to places that I want to, not what you do. So, yeah, that’s kind of where people need to re-understand, I guess. I don’t know. Maybe we’ve lost that. And they use our good, honest people. to make them feel guilty about that they have money. And we shouldn’t be that way. We worked hard for that, right?
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I totally agree. And I think there’s a paradigm shift. A couple of other things that you, well, another thing that you mentioned in this text is that this isn’t about taxing businesses. It’s about breaking decades of globalistic exploitation. I thought that was very telling, Mary.
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It totally is. You know, we need to take it piece by piece. And like I said, like, The big, beautiful bill. And, you know, either love him or hate him, Donald Trump, he’s a businessman. He knows he’s been through this. He understands now. I think when you’ve been through it, you understand it. You know, when you start losing your money, it’s like, oh, my gosh, what am I doing? I’ve got to do some things different. And he’s figured that out, and he’s doing that for America. Like I said, not everything in this bill is perfect. You know, you have to deal with people that you have to get along with to get the bill passed. and sometimes you have to give and, you know, pick and choose your battles.
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Well, just great, great information on this, Mary, and thanks for joining us a second day in a row to talk about this. That’s, again, that’s Mary Jansen, Jansen Photography, as well as she and I are both on the cut board together, and she also is a former Lakewood City Councilwoman. She is, she’s an amazing woman. Mary Jansen, thank you.
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I wouldn’t go that far. It’s just, It’s just I’ve learned a lot, you know, and I give that to Natalie Minton because she taught me so much.
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Oh, she’s awesome. She really is. Mary Jansen, thank you so much. We’re going to see you very soon. Okay. Thank you, Kim. And saw her last night, and we’re going to talk with her in the second hour, and that’s Karen Levine, my dear friend, Remax Realtor. And if you’re buying a home, selling a home, looking at a new build, you need to reach out to her and have her on your side of the table.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That’s Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And I wanted to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives today. fuels our hopes and dreams and empowers us to change our own personal climate. And also, as you know, I highlight the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo, co-founded by Drew Dix, Medal of Honor recipient for actions he took during the Vietnam War, and Brad Padula, who is an Emmy Award-winning documentary maker. But Drew has started a new podcast series. It’s called Words from the Silo. And I highly recommend that you add this into a valued resource. His most recent podcast is Our Changing Culture. It was published yesterday. But he’s got another one, Homeland Security and the Inside Threat, that was published right before Independence Day. So take a look at all of those. Really great information. You can find that at AmericanValueCenter.org. Our next guest, Greg Walcher, is one of the most recognized and respected national leaders in natural resources policy. In addition to his popular blog, Resources and Reality, he writes a weekly newspaper column on Western resource issues and is the author of Smoking Them Out, The Theft of the Environment and How to Take It Back. It’s in its second printing. And he speaks, a very popular speaker throughout the nation as well. Greg Walcher, welcome to the show.
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Thank you. Good morning.
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And I wanted to talk with you about two of your most recent publications. The first is regarding – and this was published in June – Supreme Court nips NEPA, which is a good start. And NEPA is the – I don’t have that right here –
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The National Environmental Policy Act. This is the procedural law that requires federal agencies to consider the environmental impacts of their decisions and frequently to publish environmental impact statements or environmental assessments.
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Okay. Now, is NEPA a good idea or a bad idea?
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Well, it was a good idea when it was passed. We shouldn’t make… major decisions without at least understanding what environmental impacts they may have. So it was a very well-intentioned law, and it has functioned that way for a very long time since the 1970s, early 70s. But it also has evolved to the point where the abuse of it is legendary, and it is used not just to consider impacts of the decision but to delay projects. and to stop projects, which was clearly never the intention of Congress. So the Supreme Court used a Utah transportation case that also involved Eagle County, Colorado, to say, wait a minute, you don’t have to consider the impacts of every single potential environmental consequence that may result in some completely different area in some future date. That’s not what it was intended to do. It’s a very interesting case that involved the Surface Transportation Board approving an 80-mile rail line in Utah, but it was challenged by a bunch of national environmental organizations and by Eagle County, Colorado, on the theory that someday, if they built this 80-mile rail line, that it would be used to transport oil from the Uinta Basin in Colorado to refineries in Texas, through Eagle County, Colorado, by way of Denver. And the Supreme Court, actually unanimously, which is quite rare, said, no, you can’t demand that the Surface Transportation Board speculate on whether or not oil is going to be hauled out of that region, whether it will go through Eagle County, whether it will go to Texas and be refined, whether it will ever be sold anywhere or not is just beyond the scope of what that law was intended to do. And it’s a precedent-setting ruling that I think will have very far-reaching consequences when agencies are no longer required to consider the most extreme possible consequences rather than the local environmental consequences of what they’re being asked to do.
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And, yes, speculation. So the law, so it’s the National Environmental Protection Act, NEPA, has been, as you say, abused to the point, instead of looking at this saying, okay, there’s this rail line, it’s going to go through this, it might affect this grass line, it might affect this, this, those things right there. That’s really what it was intended for as the law, right? Right.
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Yes, and it’s the same kind of thing as saying we’re going to list polar bears as endangered and we’re going to blame that on global warming, and therefore we can use the polar bears as an excuse to regulate power plants in Arizona because they may have some effect in the future on the climate, and the climate may in some indirect way have some effect on polar bears. It’s just too far reached. The Supreme Court… has reigned in that as well. And so I’m looking at a trend at the Supreme Court that says we’re maybe soon getting past this era of using every environmental law to stop every project in America. That’s not the intent of it, of course, is to make sure that we don’t foul the air and pollute the water. But to use that as an excuse to simply stop all human activity is not the intent of those laws, and they’re being abused to the point where the where the court has unanimously, again, I emphasize how rare that is, said, no, that’s an overreach. It isn’t what those laws were intended to do, and we’re going to put a stop to it.
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Okay, and so you said that this ruling, and you alluded to this, that this may affect the Endangered Species Act. And I remember the first time that I heard you speak, Greg Walcher, you had talked about endangered species. And you mentioned the polar bears. And you said, okay, they’re endangered. How many more do you want? And… And actually, the polar bear population has grown. But it seems that, again, the Endangered Species Act has been used to prevent, I would ultimately say, human flourishing and prosperity. Now, we have a duty to be good stewards of of our Earth, that’s for sure. But that doesn’t, not at the expense of no human flourishing, because I think that that’s kind of first and foremost that we need to be focused on.
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Yeah, the polar bear situation is especially ironic because we now know that the polar bears are not endangered. In fact, there are many times more of them than there were 50 years ago. Maybe we’ve gone from as few as 500 bears to more than 3,000 all over the world now. So it’s not an endangered species. The better example from the court docket is the dusky gopher frog where the court weighed in because the Fish and Wildlife Service was trying to designate critical habitat in completely different states where there were no dusky gopher frogs and where in fact they couldn’t live if they were there. And the court said, no, the critical habitat has to be in places where the species actually live or where there’s habitat that they could live and that their survival may depend on, but not designating habitat all over Mississippi and Texas for a species that lives only in a particular place in Louisiana. That’s the kind of precedent that I’m talking about, where these environmental laws were being used as a tool to stop human activity in places where it had nothing to do with the species and the court has said no we’re not going to let you continue that that type of overreach it has become common of course in this country but it’s about time that that the court is starting to say there is a limit to that
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What about California? I remember the Delta smelt, that that was used to restrict access for farmers to water to be able to plant crops, and that area became quite dry. Is that the same thing? Was that an endangered species decision as well?
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It was, and then there’s plenty of other examples of it as well, and sometimes not even with endangered species. Sometimes it’s this NEPA process we’re talking about. where, for example, the NEPA was used in the Klamath River Basin to say that the existence of four dams that have been there more than a century were a threat to a species of salmon, which is not a listed endangered species there, by the way, but it was nevertheless used as a tool to literally dismantle and tear down those four historic dams in the Klamath Basin, and that has dried up hundreds of thousands of acres of farms, and killed communities and devastated agricultural families in a way that I think, anyway, that NEPA was never intended to do.
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Is there going to be any remedy to what happened there on the Klamath River for these people?
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Well, I don’t know that anybody’s going to suggest going back and rebuilding those four dams, but it’s very, very hard. partly because of NEPA, to get approval to build a water project of any kind in this country. It’s the reason that Congress essentially quit authorizing major water projects 50 years ago. So I don’t know whether there’s any remedy for actions like that that have already been taken. But it’s insane to talk about dismantling infrastructure that we already have and where the politics already got fought over many years ago and in many cases These reservoirs have become enormously important, not only as recreational resources for the communities nearby, but also as wildlife habitat. And so, obviously, I wasn’t asked to vote on whether to destroy those dams, but it was a bad idea.
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It was a terrible idea. And then we’ve talked about water in the West before, but my friend Yvonne has said you can’t have water conservation without water storage. And so these different metropolitan areas that are trying to use the guise of economic development to bring people to, for example, to Denver, but not really thinking about water storage, I think it’s very short-sighted, Greg Walcher.
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Well, it misses the whole point of water conservation, as you say. In places like the arid west, that’s the only thing that mankind can control and that we ought to be concerned about. We can’t control the amount of snow that falls on Colorado, but our state loses a significant portion of the water that it’s entitled to use every year because it doesn’t have enough storage capacity in any of the eight river basins to store all the water Colorado is entitled to. And so we can’t control the amount of precipitation we get. We can control how much of it we store during the dry periods to use during the wet periods. Storage we can control.
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But yet NEPA has been used to prevent water storage projects, and you just connect the dots, and that means that there could be water shortages because of poor planning and poor action, I think, Greg Walcher.
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Well, that’s right. That’s right. The last major water project built in Colorado was… which was built by the Parker Water and Sanitation District, the Ruder Hess Reservoir. It took 30 years to get approvals to finally get built. And NEBA was intended to make sure that we consider environmental impacts and mitigate them to the extent that we can. It was not intended to stop projects like that, and it almost did in that case.
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Wow. Fascinating. So you can find this at Greg Walcher. That’s G-R-E-G-W-A-L-C-H-E-R dot com. And you do write this column on a regular basis as well. The next essay or article that we’re going to talk about is absolutely fascinating. And it’s just stay tuned. We’ll keep that as a cliffhanger. I’m talking with Greg Walcher. And it is important we have these conversations and they happen because of sponsors. And for everything mortgages, reach out to Lorne Levy.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That’s KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. The USMC Memorial Foundation is a nonprofit I dearly love. And why? Because it honors those that have given their lives, have been willing to give their lives for our liberty. The memorial is located right here in Golden, Colorado. And to support it and get more information, see what they’re doing with the remodel, go to USMCMemorialFoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. I have Greg Walcher on the line. He’s an author, respected leader in natural resources policy. And let’s get to it. This is a fascinating piece, Greg Walcher, from cloned sheep to woolly mammoths.
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It’s an interesting thing for people who follow science that we’ve gone from the ability to clone sheep in the 1990s in Scotland to to a new ability, apparently, to recreate extinct species, not just endangered ones. There’s a guy named George Church, who is a Harvard genetics professor, who led a team that finally figured out how to break this technological barrier. We’ve had speculation for years that they might someday be able to recreate woolly mammoths, for example, because there are several carcasses that have been found frozen, and so they might have that ability, but this team figured out how to do that Not starting with woolly mammoths, interestingly enough, but they’ve announced the birth of three dire wolves. Some of your listeners may recognize dire wolves from Dungeons and Dragons or Game of Thrones. It’s a species that is said to have been extinct for 30,000 years. But starting with DNA that they could extract from a 13,000-year-old tooth and a 72,000-year-old skull… George Church’s team figured out how to recreate dire wolves. They are potentially very dangerous animals. They’re more than twice the size of the gray wolves that have been reintroduced back into Colorado. They are wolves that stand four feet high and eight feet long. They’re bigger than human beings and could be potentially very, very dangerous. I mean, it’s a fascinating thing, and there’s all kinds of potential. to it if you think about, I mean, there are some endangered species and some extinct species even that might be fascinating. Dodo birds, for example, which used to inhabit the island of Mauritius, are extinct only because humans killed them all. So if somebody wants to repopulate Mauritius with dodo birds, I think that might be kind of cool. But dire wolves are a little bit different. It makes me think, you know, what if they decided to bring back Tyrannosaurus Rex or to repopulate the world with velociraptors? And, you know, Jurassic Park was a great accomplishment by Steven Spielberg. It was a great fantasy and quite entertaining. But if we actually have that technological ability, it just makes me think there’s a huge ethical question here that somebody other than George Church ought to decide. No one’s ever heard of George Church. Somebody ought to be involved in deciding what species we might want to use this new technology on. There’s no public process for it. There’s no law regulating it. And so some Harvard professor and a team of lab technicians could just make a decision like that that could have enormous consequences for mankind. And it just makes me think ethical questions that big ought to have some kind of public process for decision-making. Who gets to decide what species we’re going to recreate and what’s the process for that?
SPEAKER 05 :
I’m thinking – I find it interesting to recreate a species when they’re saying – well, humans get blamed for global warming, but yet – Other species emit the same things, such as methane. So new species would be emitting more of that. It’s like, why would you want to bring in more species when yet they’re so concerned about the human population and what that’s doing to the Earth? Are you following me on that? Does that make any sense?
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Yeah, well, it does. I mean, it’s just raising a question more than an answer. I saw where the Secretary of the Interior, Doug Burgum, said, this is really exciting. We could do a lot of good in recovering endangered species. I agree with that. And in some cases, possibly even extinct species, some of which, quite a few of which, man is responsible for. So, you know, the last Tasmanian tiger died off in the 1930s. They were killed by people. So if somebody, if some Australian process decided that they want to recreate Tasmanian tigers and repopulate what mankind killed off, whether that was a wise decision or not. My point is just somebody ought to decide that other than a researcher in a lab. Australia is a democratic society, as is the United States, and so the public ought to be involved in that decision. If they want to recreate the half-horse, half-zebra quagga that… used to, you know, they had the last one died in a zoo in the 1880s, but they’re dead because people killed them. So if people decide that they want to recreate them, I’m okay with that. My only point about it is that people ought to decide that in some kind of a process for which we have no law and no regulation, no system in place to decide, you know, what species we’re going to work on. And so in the absence of that, We just have some team at Harvard that made unilaterally the decision to bring back dire wolves.
SPEAKER 05 :
And in your piece, I’m looking at the image that you have, the timber wolf. You said the shoulder height is two and a half feet, body length is six feet. That’s a big animal. That’s a pretty good-sized animal. But the dire wolf is three and a half feet at shoulder height, and you mentioned a body length of eight feet. We’re having enough trouble out here with this timber wolf and attacking livestock, wildlife. There’s going to be at some point a human interaction here. And that’s going to be a problem. And so I agree. I would really question. And we do actually have three dire wolf cubs that are living at this time?
SPEAKER 08 :
We do. They’re living in a captive environment created by this Harvard team. They’re already speculating, though, that they want to release them. into the wild, they’re talking about some kind of a protected preserve. The professor says maybe on indigenous lands without any idea what that means, but assuming he’s talking about some tribal reservation, my first question is, has anyone asked a tribe if they want dire wolves or not? And the answer is no, nobody has asked anybody. So, you know, those are huge animals. And, I mean, a calf doesn’t stand a chance against a gray wolf pack. In Colorado, a full-blown bull elk doesn’t stand a chance against a dire wolf. So there needs to be some process for deciding whether or not that’s a good idea.
SPEAKER 05 :
Gosh, so you’re really raising the issue and raising the question, which is it really is an ethical question. And it’s really fascinating. We’ve got probably about a minute left. Greg, I always learn so much from you. And the amount of time that you put into the research on each of these articles is amazing. What’s your final thought to leave with our listeners today?
SPEAKER 08 :
I’m afraid that we may have raised more questions than answers. But a lot of these issues are questions, and to the extent that we all care about the environment, which I think we all do passionately, the public is entitled to weigh in on issues that may have severe environmental consequences. And so I’m just raising the question on issues like this, who gets to decide? In the case of the NEPA process we talked about at the beginning, does Eagle County get to decide whether Utah builds an 80-mile rail line? The answer is no. Okay, does some Harvard professor by himself get to decide if we want to recreate velociraptors? My answer is someone other than him ought to be involved in that decision.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I think that makes a lot of sense. And Greg, I really appreciate it. People can find you at gregwalter.com. You have an extensive list of all the pieces that you’ve written, and they’re right there on the website. So I’d highly recommend that people check that out. And then I have your book on my bookshelf at home, and that is Smoking Them Out, The Theft of the Environment and How to Take It Back. Greg Walter, we will talk with you again very soon. It goes quickly. I learned so much, and I thank you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you. Good to be with you.
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Now, Joe, the show comes to you live 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. The first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. The second hour, 10 to 11 at night. So this first hour that we just finished with Greg Walcher will be on again today at 2. And then people can also listen to it at Spotify and iTunes after we get all of it, everything posted. It was a pretty fascinating conversation. First of all, we talked about NEPA, which is the, oh, now I can’t remember. It’s environmental law, the National Environmental Act that was passed back in the 70s. But in his second segment, we talked about the reclaiming species that are extinct and what could that mean and and he mentioned this dire wolf uh that there’s been um it was extinct and then there were some researchers that there are now three live cubs of this dire wolf i didn’t know about that you but you said you’ve been watching this issue
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Yeah, I really like science, so I generally was watching it just on the curiosity and also just thinking about what could happen. And I think Jurassic Park is a probability in that.
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If they continue on that. So fascinating discussion. You can find that at gregwalter.com. So let’s see. Let’s get into the things that we like to do on a regular basis. First of all, I like to say thank you to our sponsors. And one of those is Laramie Energy. I thank them for their goal sponsorship of the show because it is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate. So just think about it. There is a real attack upon oil, natural gas, and coal. So that means there’s an attack upon the things that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate. So just connect that dot. I think that’s pretty important. And the people that are doing that are very pugnacious, which just happens to be our word of the day. And pugnacious is spelled P-U-G-N-A-C-I-O-U-S. It could be combative in nature or belligerent. disposed to fight, inclined to fighting, quarrelsome or fighting. And yes, those that are opposed to human flourishing and prosperity are quite pugnacious these days. Our quote of the day is from Andrew Napolitano. And he said this. He said that all presidents but Jefferson have argued that their first job was to keep us safe. All presidents but Jefferson were wrong. If you read the Constitution, you will see that the president’s first job, as Jefferson understood it well, is to keep us free. And I was talking with one of our listeners yesterday. She said, Kim, I think that we should put together a list of all the freedoms that we’ve lost over the last 100 years, basically since the Woodrow Wilson administration, which was the progressive administration that wanted to move freedom. America from a representative government to a government of those that are smarter, those elites, the administrative state, people that are not elected, but yet they would be making decisions about our lives. And one of the things about bureaucrats is they are insulated from the responsibility of their decisions. They’re unaccountable and they’re unelected. And that is totally antithetical to the American idea. And as I mentioned, our sponsors, I know each and every one of them personally, they strive for excellence in their chosen fields. And on the line with me is my dear friend, and that is REMAX Realtor, award-winning realtor, Karen Levine. Karen, welcome. Good morning, Kim. And the girls were over last night. You were over. We had a great time. But people had a lot of questions about inventory, that real estate inventory here in the metro area, because we’re seeing something that we aren’t used to, and that’s more for sale signs.
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That is correct. That is correct. We have more inventory than we’ve seen in probably about 15 years. And during the COVID era, we were complaining about shortage of inventory and due to the shortage of inventory and the abundance of interest in people wanting to buy real estate and to buy at very, very favorable interest rates. we found that we had low supply, high demand, and so values, prices went up. And they went up quite quickly and quite a lot. And then people complained because their tax assessments went up because those are based on values from 18 months prior to the assessment value given. and now um we are seeing our inventory increase because of a variety of reasons people are relocating desiring to leave our state creating inventory life cycle people are moving into smaller homes or assisted living situations because of our aging population and so we have more homes which means that for the first time in over a decade Buyers in many situations, not all, because as you and I’ve talked about, real estate is local. But there are opportunities where buyers have more room for negotiating. They have more opportunity. with these higher interest rates to maybe have the seller assist them in buying down the interest rate to something that’s more tolerable either short-term or potentially long-term by buying the rate down from its current market, say, at 7. Maybe they can get 6.75, maybe 6.58. for 30 years, or do what’s known as a 2-1 buy-down, which I know Lauren’s talked about, where you buy the rate down for 2% the first year, 1% the second year, so you ease into that ultimate payment.
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Okay. And there was, in a seller’s market, there were people that said, I don’t really need a realtor anymore. I can just put a sign out in my yard. And that worked for some people that would actually do research. But you and I have talked about it. There’s so many different touches on buying a home or selling a home. It is important that unless you want to go through and do all that research, you really need to have a professional helping you with this.
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Well, I like to consider myself the professional in real estate. And if you’re looking to do a real estate transaction and it’s something that most consumers do once every decade, once every 12 to 15 years. The market changes, the environment changes, the regulations change, and those are things that are difficult for the consumer to keep up on. And the same is true if we are looking for legal assistance or medical assistance. Typically, your home purchase is your largest investment that you make in your lifetime. And so having a professional on your side, having me on your side, I’m going to be there to advocate for you, to educate you, to give you the pros and cons of each of the negotiable items, each of those touch points, so that you know what your exposure is, your vulnerability is, and what your opportunity for success would be.
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And that is so important, again, both on the buy and the sell side. Now, I’ve seen that there’s some new developments that are being built now as well. So tell us just a little bit about a new build.
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Well… New construction is a great opportunity for a lot of or for some homebuyers in that if you’re willing, in most cases, to go a little bit farther out because that’s where our vacant land is, you can find favorable pricing, but also builders are giving those incentives. interest rate incentives to move their inventory. So sometimes you can buy a new home and have payments that are similar or maybe less than a resale property that’s farther in town. And so my call out or my request is if you’re interested in new construction, you want somebody on your side in that transaction as well, because when you go to visit those onsite projects you go and visit the person that is there they are representing the builder and their goal is to sell as many houses as they can at the highest prices and navigating a builder contract is even different than a standard real estate contract and so i have background in new home construction and can bring again additional knowledge to that arena to that scenario and help you in negotiating and purchasing a new home. Builders just ask that you bring your realtor with you on the first visit.
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Okay, and so how can people reach you, Karen Levine?
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They can reach me at 303-877-7516.
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SPEAKER 10 :
It’s good to be with you, Kim. And let me just say that I’m surprised that in President Washington’s rules of civility, he did not say, in addition to drumming your fingers and humming while other people are talking, he did not say, don’t just keep scrolling down on your smartphone while other people are talking.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well done, Rob Nadelson. Well done. And your book, The Original Constitution, what it actually said and meant, it’s in another printing, isn’t it?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, we just had to go to the fourth edition. The book came out in 2009, and what it’s designed to do is to provide a guide to the average person, a person who is a lawyer or a constitutional expert, as to what the Constitution actually meant, right after the adoption of the Bill of Rights. And it did well. It quickly went into a second edition in 2010, a third edition in 2015, and then we held back for an entire decade. And the fourth edition is just out. People say, well, why do you have more editions? The original Constitution hasn’t changed. And that’s true. but additional research is done, and sometimes people develop interests in issues that they didn’t have. So we included some more and additional information on impeachment, because since the last edition, there had been two presidential impeachments. So the current one is now available on Amazon. The best way to get it is actually to go to the Independence Institute website, independenceinstitute.org, Go to the Constitution tab and you’ll see it advertised.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. So that’s great. And I need to get that next edition because a lot has happened since 2015. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Regarding that. The whole immigrant controversy as well as impeachment.
SPEAKER 05 :
So I’d really, again, this is a book that I would recommend that people have in their Freedom Library on their shelves at home. Now, Rob Niedelsen, you reached out to me and said, hey, there’s something that’s pretty cool that’s happening in Montana. And it’s probably would be a good idea for our market here today. in Denver, in Colorado, actually, I think, for the whole nation to partake in something like this. So set this up. What have you been doing with this station back in Montana?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, to answer that question, Kim, requires a little bit of background. As some listeners know, I was a law professor for 25 years. And most of that time I spent at the University of Montana, where I taught constitutional law and many other courses. And I for a portion of that i was a frequent guest on local radio and then for a portion of that time i actually hosted the morning drive time show and people began to call me with questions about the law about the constitution um and i would answer them and so after i finished being the host we continued that i’m on this radio station every month and on statewide radio quite frequently as well, just answering people’s questions about the Constitution. So I thought it would be nice to do something like that in Denver. How it works is that people call into the studio line. Generally speaking, they can ask their question on the air. They can stay on the line while I answer it. Sometimes they can do a follow-up. Of course, you can’t get too long-winded. You can’t throw 75 questions at me and ask me to give a lecture because other people want to call in. But if people do want to participate in that and get their constitutional questions answered, I can do that. One other thing, Kim, sometimes people ask questions about pending cases, local court cases. I can’t comment on those because I’m not involved with them. But I can comment on constitutional issues and often on other issues that go up before the U.S. Supreme Court.
SPEAKER 05 :
And that call-in number, so we will start to take call-ins now, is 303-477-5600. Don’t be shy. The text line, if you are shy, is 720-605-0647. So let’s jump into this. So there’s been a whole bunch of Supreme Court decisions that have been released, and this is for this term. I know that you’ve explained that before, but if somebody didn’t hear that, explain the Supreme Court, their different terms, how this whole thing works.
SPEAKER 10 :
Sure. The Supreme Court is the only court that is specified in the Constitution of the pursuant to authority given to Congress by the Constitution. And that, by the way, becomes relevant later on if we talk about this universal injunction decision, the so-called nationwide injunction decision, that the fact that other courts are simply created by Congress becomes important. Anyway, the Supreme Court is given jurisdiction by Congress, again, pursuant to authorization from the Constitution. And it hears appeals on federal issues that arise either from the state courts or from the lower federal courts. So the federal court system, you’ve got district courts at the trial level and then intermediate appellate courts. One sits here in Denver, the United States Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit. And then any opinion or decision from those lower courts or not anyone, but many of them, can be heard by the Supreme Court if the loser asks that the Supreme Court review it and the Supreme Court agrees. The Supreme Court, for historical reasons, treats each annual session as a term. It calls it a term. And it’s called the October term because it begins in October. So the October 2024 term It began in October of 2024, and then it continued right up to June 30th of this year. So you’ve got these oddities of these cases being issued in 2025, but it’s actually the 2024 Supreme Court term, because that’s when the term began. The court also works in the period of time when it is not formally in session, although its workload is a little less then.
SPEAKER 05 :
So within the term, do they have two sessions? Do they take a break like over Christmas, or how does that work?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah. Yeah, they take breaks. I’m not privy to the entire calendar, but they do take Christmas breaks, and they’re kind of in and out. The really heavy work comes in May and June of each year near the end of the term because what happens is the justices – meet and then they discuss a case they decide who’s in the majority who’s in the descent the chief justice appoints someone to write a majority opinion or he could take it himself if he wants to but if he doesn’t he appoints somebody to write a majority uh decision uh then uh the dissenters decide who among themselves are going to write and the really controversial decisions tend to come out in june Sometimes I think the theory is they want to be able to get out of Dodge, out of Washington, D.C., right after they issue these decisions. But whatever the reason, they usually keep us waiting with bated breath all through the term until June, until they finally issue the most controversial decisions.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. I appreciate you setting that up for us. We’re going to continue the discussion. And these are questions for Rob Nadelson, 303-477-5600. Don’t be shy. We’re going to be doing this every month. And I think it’s something that we’re going to learn a lot about. And so we’re going to make all that happen. And it happens because of our sponsors. And the Bill of Rights in the Constitution is so important. The Second Amendment, the right to keep and bear firearms. to protect ourselves against bad actors is there, and it basically protects all of the other rights. And that’s why the work of the Second Syndicate is so important.
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SPEAKER 05 :
And welcome back. Be sure and check out the website for the Center for American Values, which is AmericanValuesCenter.org. And check out Drew Dix’s new podcast. It’s a great podcast series. It’s important to have trusted sources. There’s so much coming at us, so much confusion. And we need to be truthful. very judicious and choosing trusted sources on these issues. And what Drew is doing on this podcast series is so important. He’s a Medal of Honor recipient. He understands the military, national security, and you can find that at AmericanValuesCenter.org. That’s AmericanValuesCenter.org. And, oh, the name of the podcast, Thank You, Joe, is, let’s see, it’s something from the silo. Hold on. I have all this right here. It is Words from the Silo. Thank you so much. And that’s, again, at AmericanValueCenter.org. We have started something new. This is so creative. It was Rob Nadelson said, hey, I’m doing something like this in Montana on a radio station. How about let’s do this out of this Colorado station? And we are. So we want you to call in 303-477-5600. And the text line, if you are shy, is 720-605-0647. But we’ll be talking about the Constitution and the courts. Rob is the author of the original Constitution, what it actually said and meant, and it is in its fourth edition. So Rob Nadelson. These are novice questions. You mentioned the Supreme Court. That is the court that is put in place via the Constitution. The other courts are statutory. So that means Congress has made the laws for these other courts, right? Is that what that means? That’s right. Okay. That’s right. Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
But we have— You know, I just want to mention an example of this. You may recall several months ago, there was a in fact, you and I discussed this on the on the air. There was a decision issued by a court called the Court of International Trade in New York City, and it struck down some of President Trump’s tariffs. That decision was later put on hold. But a lot of people were scratching their heads and saying, Court of International Trade, what the heck is that? Yeah. And the answer is it’s the successor to the old customs court, which goes back into the 19th century. It’s a specialized court created by Congress. There are a number of these. Bankruptcy courts are an example, too. So the federal court system is fairly elaborate, but it’s all statutory. It’s not mandated by Congress. Excuse me, it’s not mandated by the Constitution except for the Supreme Court.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. So in the way that the federal courts are made up, you have district court and how many district courts are there?
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, I don’t know the answer to that question, but there are several hundred because there are, there may be something like 300 because there is one, at least one in every state and some states have four. So probably not as much as 300, but you’re dealing with quite a few. I think the 300 figure I got might have been the number of district judges. So Colorado, though, has just one district, and then it feeds into what’s called the Tenth Circuit. Circuit means a region, and that Tenth Circuit comprises Colorado and a number of other western states. And so once a case is decided at the district court, it then gets fed into the United States Court of Appeals for whatever circuit the district is in.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, so a circuit court and the Court of Appeals, is that the same thing?
SPEAKER 10 :
They are now, yes. You know, that term circuit is interesting. It comes from the old practice of judges, which actually Supreme Court justices still do, of riding around from place to place, originally on horseback, they would go from courthouse to courthouse. And that was called riding circuit, meaning riding around. So originally, these circuit courts were trial judges that went from place to place on horseback. Eventually, the term circuit came to be applied to the courts of appeals that are much more stationary, usually. I mean, there are hearings for example, outside Denver and the Tenth Circuit, but they don’t ride circuit the way they used to. It’s the Supreme Court that seems to ride circuit. Different justices are assigned different parts of the country to hear emergency appeals, generally when the court is not in session.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Okay. Now, I have other questions, but we’ve got listeners that are on the line. First listener is Ben Williams, and he is also a great sponsor of the show. He has Ben’s Plumbing, Heating, and Cooling. Ben Williams, welcome. What’s your question for Rob Nadelson? Hi, Ben.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, thank you. Hello, Rob. Thank you so much for being on, man. What an incredible education. Well, thank you. So here’s my question on this kind of a two-part question. If it can be proven definitively that a person or group of people have been fraudulently elected, what would become of bills or legislation that they have voted on and come into law? The second part would be if it can be definitively proven that ballots have been manipulated fraudulently, say in the case of our situation here in Arapahoe County with Tabor, What would become of that because it’s already become law?
SPEAKER 10 :
Good question, Ben. It is a good question, and it’s good to see that we’re starting off with a very tough one. I will give you a definitive lawyer-like answer. It depends. Oh, great. Yeah. Election challenges are very difficult to win. Do you remember the old trope about how this statement that Trump brought something like 48 challenges to the 2020 election and the courts ruled against him every time? Right. Well, the courts ruled against him in every case but one on technicalities. It’s very difficult to even get an election case heard. And generally, you have to be able to prove by clear and convincing evidence That means by a pretty demanding standard that the fraud actually resulted in you losing. Not that it might have, or probably, but that it did result in you losing. A very, very tough standard to meet. Now, if a ballot issue is proven to be subject to fraud, then that then the result in a ballot issue would be reversed, or in some cases the court might order a new election. The cases of candidates is more difficult. Generally, by the times one of these cases is won, the person fraudulently elected has been in office for a while, has been engaging in acts for a while, and I’m not familiar with any case where the courts have said that the votes that that person cast or the proclamations that person signed are illegal because of the fraud. There is a doctrine in corporate law called the de facto corporation doctrine, which results in certain corporate measures being valid even if they are technically defective. And I think that probably that’s what the court would do here. So the question comes up, let’s say we’re definitively proven that Trump won the 2020 election and therefore Joe Biden was not properly elected. Would that mean that Joe Biden’s actions would all be invalidated? And the answer to that, nothing in law is 100 percent certain, but 99 percent certain the answer to that would be no. The court would say, you know, we can’t under one reason or another, we can’t. undo all of those actions. Let me just finish by saying there was a very famous case called Luther v. Borden that arose in the 19th century, specifically in the 1840s. There were two rival governments of Rhode Island, each one claiming that the other one was illegitimate. And the position that the U.S. Supreme Court took was basically, oops, this is too hot to handle. The issue is not justiciable.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hmm. Wow. Ben, does that answer your question?
SPEAKER 15 :
That depends.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well done. Well done. Okay. Ben Williams, thank you so much. Great question. And now we have Mark on the line with, hey, Rob, we may need to name this stump Rob Nadelson. What do you think? Or try to stump Rob Nadelson. How’s that?
SPEAKER 10 :
Look, that’s not that hard. That last question pretty much did it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, Mark. And again, the call in line is 303-477-5600. We have Mark on the line. Mark, what is your question for constitutional expert Rob Nadelson?
SPEAKER 11 :
Good morning, Kim. I have so many questions. However, one occurs to me that I’ve been wondering for a while. And, oh, first of all, Mr. Nielsen, I need to thank you so much, sir, for your series on the founders, which I believe I accessed through Kim Monson’s website. And it should be standard curriculum for all youngsters to learn about from whence our liberty sprang and what they follow as young. dictated by the Democrats is nowhere near God’s liberty. So anyway, thank you so much for your hard work, sir. Oh, that was a site.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I was saying that was a series. There were actually several like that in the Epoch Times a few years ago. But you can find all that stuff at the Independence Institute website because it ultimately winds up there as well, and it’s more collected there. Anyway, go ahead, Mark.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you. Thank you for that. And so there’s something that really bothers me, sir, and I I would almost rather call you Squire. In fact, you deserve some type of title. However, the practice of quote-unquote law befuddles me at many times. It seems very illogical. And one of my greatest complaints, I’m curious what your viewpoint might be on this, sir, is that it comes down to being beholden still to the crown, or shall we say the bar? And my ignorant question is this. Is there any way the people could establish our own justice system free of the bar, which has no ties to any of this cockamamie precedent-setting stuff to where the real people can cut the bull? And say, yes or no, it’s right or wrong. And that’s all I have to ask right now.
SPEAKER 05 :
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Welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Our website is kimmonson.com. Do check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation. The official Marine Memorial is right here in Golden, Colorado. And the remodel will have different pathways of service where you can have a brick that will… Honor your loved one’s military service or your military service. And so to buy a brick that will be on one of those pathways, get more information by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. We are trying something new, and we are off to the races on that, and that is Ask Rob Nadelson. Our call-in line is 303-477-5600. Lines are full right now, so if you’re calling and the line is busy, just call back here in just a moment. But we have Mark had an excellent question. Mark, I think your question was this is why do why do we have to have attorneys that get the permission from the bar? to be able to practice being an attorney because the bar then can threaten being a member, disbarment, and in a way controls attorneys. Am I connecting a dot for you, Mark? Is that kind of what you’re asking?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes, ma’am, except the crux of my question, ma’am, is this. And I’ve stumped many a lawyer with this question. In fact, I believe a lot of lawyers are largely ignorant to the fact that They are, by being members of the bar, they are beholden to the crown. It is not American. It’s based out of England. And I believe as American patriots believing in God’s liberty, we need to be thoroughly divorced from any allegiance or subservience to anything British whatsoever at this point, ma’am.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, well, thank you for that clarification. Okay, Rob Nadelson, constitutional expert, what’s your answer to Mark?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I wouldn’t say lawyers are beholden to the crown, but you’ve got a problem here. On the one hand, the law is a complicated endeavor. It is like medicine. It’s a learned profession, and it’s not something that can always be done by people without training. On the other hand, the bar association, the organizations of lawyers are… They’re special interests like any other special interests. And all too often they act in ways that are for their own benefit or for the benefit of the government they serve and not for the benefit of the people or not for the benefit of clients. So what you have to do is you have to really strike a balance, so you have a system where there’s expertise on the one hand, but there’s also popular influence on the other. The founding generation did this pretty well because they required people who wanted to practice law to be licensed to take an exam. But they had a pretty wide open process for doing that. I mean, you didn’t have to go to law school, for example. They also had as part of the legal system active grand juries and, of course, trial juries. consisting of ordinary citizens who were not lawyers, who made important decisions based upon common sense with some instruction from the judge. So they balance that pretty well. I kind of agree with Mark that we’ve tilted that balance a little bit too much toward lawyers, or more specifically, too much toward organized bar association. Let me give you one or two examples. One is we’re now requiring… in this state and I think 46 others, 45 others, that before you could even take the bar, you must go to a law school, graduate from a law school, which are very often controlled by the universities, and they kind of imbibe that poison from the universities that we’ve seen such evidence of recently. And not only that, but the law school has to be approved by the American Bar Association, which has a whole lot of requirements, some of which are completely nonsensical or politically driven. I think that states should take the position that you can qualify for the bar exam by clerking in an office for a few years and then taking the test without having to go through a law school. And there is an additional mechanism that people can use, too. We have in Colorado and in many other states the initiative process, the citizen initiative process. You can use it to pass state constitutional amendments that say that certain positions, maybe certain lesser judgeships, you don’t have to be lawyers to fill. Or you can adjust the burden of responsibility more in favor of lay people and against lawyers. So there are those options. I tend to agree, as I said. that we’ve tilted the balance a little bit too much toward lawyers.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. So thank you, Rob. And Mark, thank you for that question. And we’ve got things coming in on the text line. Rob, this could possibly become a two-hour show as we do this because we now have Ron on the line. I’ll try to get to these text questions as well. The text line is 720-605-0647. And the call-in line is 303-477-5600. If you are trying that and it’s busy, give it a few, probably about 30 seconds and try it again. And so now we have Ron. Ron, welcome. What is your question for constitutional expert Rob Nadelson?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, my question was basically a statement, but I believe that the legal system is part of the majority of the problem that’s wrong with America. Because when you have here in Colorado, you have proof that they’ve manipulated and changed votes. in Arapahoe County. Then you have a, uh, and that’s the cast vote record you’re referring to.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes. Yes. Then you have an AG that posts, uh, the, the codes and, uh, the passwords and they have proof that they’ve changed, that there’s been manipulation and you’re sitting there saying that you have to prove it instead of saying, you know, the, the legal system, they use the, uh, the, uh, um language american language english language they use that to manipulate and make it hard so people don’t understand instead of making it very simple and i think that they that’s the reason why america is in the position they have it because you look at these judges and the stuff that they’ve done okay so uh
SPEAKER 05 :
sorry uh you have a good day thank you great question and rob i’m going to segue that question into something that we did want to talk about and that is these injunctions by these district judges and of course there was a supreme court decision on that and we’ve got maybe about three minutes on that yeah and thank you ron thank you ron kim i can’t speak to the details of local elections because
SPEAKER 10 :
I’m swamped trying to keep up with what I have to keep up with, and I just can’t judge that. I will say it is true it’s very difficult to challenge an election in court, and I think there are a number of reasons for that, but it can be very frustrating. I also agree that sometimes the courts play games. It’s called sophism. with legal language and manipulated in ways that are not justifiable. I think many constitutional decisions fit that category. As for the injunctions…
SPEAKER 05 :
And let’s explain that. We’ve had district court judges that have issued injunctions on different things that Donald Trump has done, maybe through executive order. My understanding in the big, beautiful bill, that 28 of his executive orders were codified into law.
SPEAKER 10 :
The particular case that went to the U.S. Supreme Court was called Trump v. Casa, and it dealt with three injunctions against his birthright citizenship claims. executive order. And we can get into the merits of that later. But in each case, the injunctions issued were what were called universal injunctions. That is to say, the court ordered the president not to enforce the executive order against anyone, not just against the plaintiffs who brought the case, but against anyone. And the U.S. Supreme Court said that exceeded the power of the district court. The district courts, remember, we mentioned this earlier, were set up by Congress. They were given certain powers. They were not given the powers to issue universal injunctions. They were only given the power to issue an injunction on behalf of the parties before the court, unless the case qualifies as a class action, which is a difficult thing to do. So that’s what that case was about. I think it was a worthy, a good slapdown of overreaching district judges. I have no doubt that this latest silly injunction against stopping the funding of Planned Parenthood will also be struck down because the grounds for that, which were even stated by the judge, but the grounds claimed by Planned Parenthood were simply nonsensical.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, Ron, thank you. Anything else?
SPEAKER 12 :
No, thank you. You guys have a good day. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thanks, Ron. Rob, I think that your idea, your experiment here in Colorado is highly successful. We’ll do this once a month. Now, next month it will be the second Thursday. Then we’re going to get on a regular rotation of the second Tuesday of each month. We’ve got a little over a minute. How would you like to button this up, Rob Nadelson?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, a crass commercial message would be helpful, right? That’s great, yeah. The fourth edition of the original Constitution is now out and available. Be sure you get the fourth, not an early one. And it’s a little hard to find on Amazon, so go to independenceinstitute.org, the Constitution tab, and you’ll see a way to order it. They charge an absurdly low price for it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, that’s great, and we all should have that on our Freedom Library at home. I need to get mine ordered. I’ll make a note to myself on that. So, Rob Nadelson, this is great. We’ll do this again next month. And all of you, put that call-in number in your phone so you’re ready next month. That’s 303-477-5600, 303-477-5600. I love this. The mental gymnastics to go through these questions is so awesome, Rob Nadelson.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, it’s great. I really enjoy it, and I enjoy talking to your listeners.
SPEAKER 05 :
And definitely, this is great. Our quote for the end of the show is from Abraham Lincoln. He said this, he said, We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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