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On this nostalgic episode of Drive Radio, we take you back to a time when signing up for a record club was as popular as a road trip playlist. Get ready to reminisce about those old-school car stereo systems, from cassettes to CD changers, and everything in between. Listen as we share memories, humorous anecdotes, and a few surprises along the way.
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SPEAKER 14 :
All right, Hour 3, Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Myself, Mark Guernsey, accountable up in Broomfield. Ken Rackley, Tune Tech in Aurora. And you can find all of our shops. Mark and Ken both go to drive-radio.com, drive-radio.com. You guys are sending me text messages. A couple of them I’ll go over. One of them is, PSA, any of your listeners coming up to Cheyenne for Frontier Days? This was the fourth. Showing me a picture of a trooper. Fourth state trooper I’ve seen in 12 miles on I-25 from the state line. They also have a few unmarked pickup trucks that are working I-25 today as well. So, yeah, any of you that are going up to Cheyenne Frontier Days, watch. I guess keep your speed in check is what he’s really trying to say there. And then somebody also was giving me some examples of – Different merchants that seem to struggle at customer service, and the question is why? I wish I could answer that, other than they’re just morons. I don’t know. I don’t know why in today’s world you would not want to give good customer service with all of the social media that can talk bad about you. Why you would not give good customer service in today’s world is, frankly, it is beyond me. I don’t have an answer for that, other than you’re just an utter moron.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, right, exactly.
SPEAKER 14 :
People are going to know you don’t give good service. Right. Why would you want that reputation? And in this case, it happened to be Les Schwab up in Cheyenne not giving good service. I’ll say it. I could care less. I don’t have any ties to Les Schwab. Why would you be a chain like that and not give good service?
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. Exactly.
SPEAKER 14 :
Makes no sense to me whatsoever. I don’t understand that. So anyways, thank you, by the way, for those comments and letting us know, because I guess I would find somewhere else to go if it were me up there. Terry in Arvada, you’re next.
SPEAKER 15 :
Good morning. Oh, I’m sorry. Good afternoon.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes. Switched over. I’m running behind. We bought a 2000 Chrysler Town and Country brand new. And it came with a CD player in the stereo. And we didn’t own any CDs at the time. So we asked them if they could switch it out for a cassette player. And they said, yeah, but we can’t guarantee the dash won’t rattle. So we kept the CD player and converted. And then I bought a 2004 Toyota Tundra. And now I’m still driving it. And it has AM, FM, CD, and cassette. All in the one unit. Wow. And so I don’t have any cassettes anymore.
SPEAKER 14 :
You know what? I actually still do. I don’t know why. I guess over the years I’ve just kept them in the container that they were in, and they’re just still kicking around somewhere up in the attic. But I haven’t listened to one in quite some time.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. I remember my first cassette that I got even. I think I still have it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Really? Uh-huh. That’s cool.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 15 :
Did you ever join the Columbia Records? Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Ten free for a dollar.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s right. We all have stories of exiting the Columbia whatever it was, music club or whatever. They were like the mafia running that thing.
SPEAKER 11 :
You couldn’t get out.
SPEAKER 14 :
There was no way they let you out of that contract.
SPEAKER 11 :
You can’t get out.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 15 :
Thank you, gentlemen. You have a great program.
SPEAKER 14 :
You too. No, Terry, thank you. Yeah, I belong to that. I’ve talked about that on The Daily Show before and made fun of it because I think all of us back in the day were a part of the Columbia Records, you know, whatever, whatever. Yeah, you joined for one buck and you got so many tapes for free or for the buck and then you had to sign up for the whatever it was, you know, $14.99 or $9.99 a month or whatever it was after that. Man, that thing lasted indefinitely because if you wanted to get out of that thing, good luck. I think… I think the only reason I was able to get out of that is… And my dad had to help me because when I initially signed up, I don’t think I’ve ever told you this story, Charlie. So the way I got out of the Columbia record thing was I think I signed up, I was like 14.
SPEAKER 10 :
So you weren’t an age.
SPEAKER 14 :
I wasn’t an adult. I wasn’t technically able to sign into any kind of a contract. So by the time I was like, I don’t know, 17 or 18 and wanted out of that thing three or four years later, I think my dad helped me. We wrote a letter that basically said, well, guess what? When I initially signed up for that and no adult had signed on the contract, I was actually able to get out for that reason, that reason alone. But man alive, they did not want to let you out of that thing at all. And it was amazing. I signed up when I was like 14. I was way ahead of my time. At that time, I was already working, had my own money and all that kind of stuff, so it wasn’t that big of a deal. And I paid for all of them after that. Right. And then I remember when CD, I think that’s why I wanted out of the Tape of the Month thing was CDs started to come out. And I just realized that I’m not going to switch over to CDs. I can just buy whatever I want. I don’t need this Tape of the Month Club thing anymore. And you guys all remember the Tape of the Month thing is, you know, the first few you got was what you selected. And then after that, they were all crap.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Random people you didn’t want to listen to. Yeah, the stuff that you got. I mean, Charlie probably remembers. The stuff you got was stuff you’d never listen to anyways. You could just throw it in the trash. It was all garbage. Right. But, yeah, we were all part of that. So, Terry, thanks for the memory. Or maybe not thanks.
SPEAKER 10 :
I do remember our 04 truck. It still had a tape. It was an LTZ, and it had both. It had CD and cassette. Yeah, that’s right.
SPEAKER 14 :
It had one up above, and the CD was down below, above the center console.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
They had the pocket, and then the CD player was right below that, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, right.
SPEAKER 14 :
If I’m not mistaken.
SPEAKER 10 :
And then when we went in for the 08 truck, it was…
SPEAKER 14 :
Somebody said changers under the seat even you could get.
SPEAKER 10 :
You’re right. Yeah, you could load.
SPEAKER 14 :
You could do like a 10 disc or something under the seat.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and then we got another LTZ in 08 after the other one got totaled, and it’s like, no cassette?
SPEAKER 14 :
They were like, nope. And what I remember, at least on the GM ones, was the changers under the seat, they didn’t work so well because if you hit a really large bump, they skipped. Right, right. Where the dash ones had a better shock absorbing or something, but the ones under the seat, the changers, they did not. They would skip all over the place if you hit a really hard bump.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, we were talking about that old record player in the Chrysler. I’ll bet that skipped a lot. How do you keep that from skipping?
SPEAKER 14 :
I have no clue.
SPEAKER 09 :
You’ve got to have a smooth road. Who thought that was a good idea? In the 50s.
SPEAKER 14 :
I didn’t look this up. You guys did. Did it take 45s only?
SPEAKER 09 :
Did you put full albums in? I think there were two options. 45 was one option. Others had a full-size record in there. It pulls out underneath the dash. But with that 45, you could listen to both sides.
SPEAKER 10 :
It sounded like it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, wow.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, because it said it did something from the bottom.
SPEAKER 09 :
It’s got needles on both sides.
SPEAKER 10 :
So you could listen to two songs on your three-hour drive. Well, maybe that holds it in place.
SPEAKER 14 :
Two songs. I’m guessing that if you have one of those, it’s extremely rare and probably valuable today. I’m guessing if you’ve got one of those right.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and it looked like it was only in the high-end cars and stuff like that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it wasn’t. It was an add-on feature that you paid a lot more for. Right, yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I’m guessing so.
SPEAKER 10 :
I look like it was standard on a new New Yorker St. Regis or something like that. So like the top end of the top end.
SPEAKER 14 :
And there’s a lot of things I know about or have seen pictures of and so on. That is an item I’ve never seen in real life. Oh, no. I mean, I’ve seen a lot of the old swamp cooler type air conditioners and those sorts of things. I’ve never seen one of those players ever.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, you Google the record player, it comes up as 1956, and that’s the only year it shows up as.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s one of those items I’ve never seen in person.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and how many of those cars are still around? You know, I mean, there’s probably not. I mean, they weren’t a sports car, so they didn’t really. There were four doors and stuff like that. But, yeah, we were talking. Yeah, that record player would be way more distracting than texting. Yeah, somebody also just texted. Don’t flip the record while you’re driving.
SPEAKER 14 :
And Mark might remember this even. Do you remember the aftermarket CD players like the single double dens where you took the face off so they didn’t get stolen?
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, yeah, right. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
They had a little button you take them with. They had a little carrying case thing. You’d put them in the pouch thing or the little hardened case that you’d take with you into wherever you’re going so nobody stole your radio.
SPEAKER 10 :
Or they had the whole Panasonic thing that the whole radio pulled out. You carried it around with a handle. Yeah, right, exactly. I forgot about those. Yeah, the whole thing slid out. Yeah, I think it was Panasonic. Yeah, you’d carry that thing around.
SPEAKER 09 :
Then they had a model where it looked like the face came down and it looked like you had taken the face cover off. But it was still there.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, when you shut the key off, it just kind of folded. It just flips down and covers it up. And then some of them would hide.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. There you go. Okay. All right. I forgot about all that. They tried everything.
SPEAKER 14 :
Al, we’ll get your comment on radios. Don’t go anywhere. And lines are open, by the way. Any of you have comments on that, by all means, let us know. 303-477-5600. We’ll be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 14 :
Three deuces and a four-speed, most guys can’t tune one carburetor, nonetheless three.
SPEAKER 10 :
I wouldn’t attempt. I don’t have the time to try to attempt that. There were special tools for those back in the day. Yeah, right, that vacuum and all kinds of different stuff.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I actually have one with all the stuff that, you know, because my dad did a lot of that stuff. And so, yeah, I actually have one of the tools you need to balance those out properly.
SPEAKER 12 :
Sure, yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
It’s very, very interesting.
SPEAKER 12 :
Crazy.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, it is crazy, actually. So 303-477-5600 is our studio line. We’ll take more calls. We have one line open. Alan Lakewood, you’re next.
SPEAKER 16 :
Hi, John. Hey, Al. I just wanted to add a comment. I remember back in high school I had a Volkswagen Beetle. It had an AM radio. And I went to Radio Shack and I got an FM converter.
SPEAKER 14 :
An FM converter. How did that work?
SPEAKER 16 :
I don’t know. I guess maybe I just, you know, it brought a tune into the radio that was FM signal and the amplifier from whatever that little radio.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, so dumb question. How did you tune the FM side?
SPEAKER 16 :
It had a little FM tuner, just like you’d have with the little AM.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
So I could get FM radio, and then I realized I needed a set of rear speakers also.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
So I pulled some wires, and I had four speakers.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
There you go.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. I mean, back in the day, as you guys all know, and I know young people hate hearing that, but anyways, back in the day. I’m going to say it anyways. And radio shops, as you know, Al, and all you guys, I mean, that was big business. Radio shops made a ton of money back in the day doing all of the upgrades, the speakers, adding the tweeters, the amps, the subwoofers, and all of that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 14 :
Some of them still exist, but not near as many. I mean, I’ll bet it’s a tenth that are out there from what it used to be.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, all those different components are all combined into one now. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
And the factory sound systems are not half bad.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, they’re actually.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, you get what you needed at Radio Shack, and, of course, they’re long gone. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
I love Radio Shack as a kid. I could spend hours in there.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, there was a guy down in Cherry Creek, like second in university, I think it was Western Radio. And he had this little radio shop, and he’d help you out with stuff. But I think he sold that piece of property for like $5 million. Wow.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hell yeah, right then. Good for him. That’s right. Good retirement. Yeah, good for him.
SPEAKER 16 :
Thanks. Have a great day.
SPEAKER 14 :
You bet, Al. No, thank you, by the way. Good memories. The FM, that add-on to a radio, that’s new to me. I did not know that.
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s something I had not seen. Those Volkswagens, they had one speaker. That was it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, they had one speaker.
SPEAKER 10 :
I think it was speedometers here, and I think the speaker’s over here, and the radio’s here. Gotcha. That’s all they had.
SPEAKER 09 :
They’re calling it a converter, but it’s almost an add-on.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. All right. Rob, go ahead.
SPEAKER 15 :
Hey, guys. Hey, Bob. You guys have got some good stuff going on. Thank you, thank you. I’m a senior citizen. I haven’t talked to you in a long time, but I’ve got old cars and stuff. But with all those electronic gizmos, when I was a teenager, I was messing with them all the time. And early on, what happened was the record industry decided that they wanted to do something for blind people. I know if you wonder where I’m going with this one. But what happened was they created the 16 RPM speed, the slowest one. Some of the force speed players that are made during the 60s still had the 16 RPM. So you got a lot more, but it’s mostly four voice, not classical music or anything like that. So what they did was they converted, they created, so why we could put more on a record and they started with Chrysler and the other companies. I don’t remember exactly how many got into it right away, but the first ones were 16 RPM players in the cars.
SPEAKER 14 :
I did not know that.
SPEAKER 15 :
If you had to buy a special record, you couldn’t put it down. You know, and get a 45 out of your pile, you know.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, 33 and a third.
SPEAKER 15 :
So then they decided.
SPEAKER 14 :
So hang on really quick. I just want to make sure I understand this. And they did it slow, I’m guessing, so that as the car moved and might have bounced or whatever, it wasn’t as much of an impact. Am I thinking correctly?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, that’s a good point. But the move was very small. Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
They could put more songs on a record.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. Yep. Okay, that makes sense. Correct. Shocking. Oh, man.
SPEAKER 15 :
You’re right. gouging their records. So then when they finally got to the 45, you would shove them into the top and it would play upside down. I think the Big 16 did upside down. I can’t remember. But I was trying to help a guy in my Skyliner club. I have an old Skyliner. And he wanted to put one in his car. I said, are you nuts? There’s too many other things you can use. And he shows me this thing. It was a total disaster. But it did use FM conversion. And it would be mono conversion FM. Oh, no, I’m sorry, AM. So it would go into your AM radio. It would come out on a frequency like 1420 or something like that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
SPEAKER 15 :
And that’s how you got it into the speaker.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 1 :
Huh.
SPEAKER 14 :
I had that, and that I don’t know anymore. You guys are teaching me today because that’s stuff I did not know.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, yeah. I got gadgets. I’ve got restored radios downstairs that I did. I did a 49 Zenith. It’s just awesome. That’s cool. Because I was a kid and I blew one up. So I said one time, someday I’m going to find one of those and recreate what I damaged.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
It was just like, anyway, but going back to the car, you know, you had the adapters also for FM. That was easy and cheap if you only had an AM radio. But they didn’t have stereo, you know, FM early either.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
So then you come on with, I found something at a swap meet I had never seen before. It was a Panasonic 8-track. Okay, who the heck wants that? But it was a really cool-looking thing, and it had a slide-out mount, so somebody couldn’t steal it. You put it under your dash. Now you’re going into more like the late 60s. And I got the guy down for $10, because I said, I know I’m going to have to work on it to find parts. But it was really cool. On the front, it had an FM radio part to it. You could press a button, and it would play FM stereo.
SPEAKER 14 :
All right.
SPEAKER 15 :
So, yeah, so I put that in my ex.
SPEAKER 14 :
Very cool. There you go. While you’re on, Rob, really quick, somebody texted in and said, who remembers reverberators installed in the trunk to power rear speakers?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes, going over a bump, ka-bang, ka-bang.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, there you go.
SPEAKER 15 :
I had one, too.
SPEAKER 14 :
There you go.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, don’t go over, you go on the bumps on purpose just to entertain your friends. See that? Because the spring would fly around, you know, it was subjected to vibration. If you, you know, if you pumped, if you went out and pushed up and down on the trunk of the car to make the trunk wiggle around, especially side to side, you know, kind of sound. Oh, gee. Anyway. So I’ll end it at that point. That’s cool. All the gadgets were just so funny, you know. Amazing. But with this FM thing, I was able to pump it into a power amp, you know, boost the sound. And the 8-tracks are great. Because if you’re in good condition, they’ll play okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. Good to know.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right, guys.
SPEAKER 14 :
Rob, thanks. No, appreciate it. Charlie, this is more of a question for you. Somebody’s asking, is AM still in HD? Do we still do HD here? That’s what I thought. So, yeah, if you have an HD radio, we still here on KLZ. We do HD broadcasting. So, yes, all of our stations. So that question, Legends, which we do music on, sounds great. But, yeah, if you’re asking that question, yes, we still. If you have an HD AM radio, we broadcast in HD here at KLZ. Mickey, you’re next.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep. Oh, the other guy got the 200 transmitting radio. The FM tuner transmitted on 1400 AM.
SPEAKER 14 :
So you had to tune your AM radio to 1400. And I’m guessing because very few stations actually are in that 1400 range, and if they are, they’re usually a very weak signal, so you’re probably able to pick up what’s closer, meaning that’s why they went that way. Most people don’t know this mickey you probably do but for those of you listening that may not know this anything on the left of the dial on am like 560 has a much stronger signal even for the same wattage that you would have on the far right side of the dial so you would need 10 times the power at 1400 as you would for 560 because of the way the am signal works i learn something every day that’s why our signal on 560 is so strong sure makes sense
SPEAKER 05 :
And since the other guy stole my thunder, one more audio wonder was 8-track converters where you could put a cassette in the – Oh, yeah, that I did know about.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I remember those. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Thought I’d throw that one in.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, no, I remember that, Mickey. That part I do remember. Yeah. Okay. Thanks, Mickey. Appreciate it. Yeah, so for those of you that maybe didn’t know that, a lot of radio guys I think do, and I only know that just from being around here in Charlie as much as – as i have been but yeah the way the am dial works is anything on the left of the dial is always stronger as you get further to the right you need more power to equal what’s on the left hand side of the dial i mean i’m not joking you would need charlie correct me if i’m wrong but if you’re a 1400 signal versus so we’re we’re 565 000 watts if you go all to the right of the dial at 1400 you’d need at least 50 000 watts to equal what we do with 5 000 watts Or maybe more. I mean, as you go to the right of the dial, the signal is much weaker and harder to get out there as opposed to where we are on the far – we’re the first signal on the dial here in the whole Denver, Cheyenne, Wyoming, Nebraska. That’s why we reached all those different states. And we’re 102 years old. Also, for those of you that don’t know this – 560 and KLZ, three letters. The older the radio station or signal is three letters because as there’s more stations, they had to add that fourth letter.
SPEAKER 10 :
Makes sense.
SPEAKER 14 :
So that’s why we’re 100 plus years old because it’s KLZ.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. Well, and I just remember it as a kid, you know, it was 56 KLZ. Right. You know, I just remember that, you know, my dad.
SPEAKER 14 :
I still have an old belt buckle from back in the day that says KLZ 560 on it. Yeah. Which again, and in KLZ, as you all know, through those, all of those years, we’ve gone through, you know, many things. changes, I guess you could say, even some ownership changes, and was country for a while, was ESPN for a while, and so on, and now we’ve been our format now for, gosh, quite some time, 15 years or so now probably. I’ve been here 11 during the week, and we’ve been Drive Radio since 2008, so we’ve been here on this station for quite some time and are very comfortable here. And Mr. Crawford’s owned this for 32 years. Wow, nice. Anyway, so we’ll be back, guys. We’ll take a quick break here. We’ve got a car review that we’ll play here in a moment as well, but we’ll be back right after that. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560. All right, so it is that time where we do a review on a weekly basis. So, Richard, what have you driven lately?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, so it drove kind of in that electric vehicle side of things, a 2025 Volvo XC90, Dad. This was the plug-in hybrid version, so it gives you about 40 miles worth of range on a single charge, which for a lot of people is sufficient, especially if there’s even charging at your office or you’ve got the capabilities to charge do whatever you need to do. Again, you can go 40 miles on electric only, and then it switches seamlessly to its hybrid powertrain, even charges the battery a little bit as you’re going. It’s got a lot of flexibility. This is a luxury SUV, Dad, right? This is Volvo’s three-row SUV, but it is a luxury car. I don’t want people to mistake that and think that this is a great value. This car, as we tested it with about $89,000, I think just a hair underneath that. But again, you get that Swedish luxury, right? You get really nice apportionments on the inside, heated and ventilated seats. You’ve got captain’s chairs, I think, that are heated in the second row. You’ve got a third row. Granted, when you put that up, you don’t have a ton of room. in the, you know, very back for cargo or whatever it might be. But you’ve got the third row if you need it. And you get the styling, right? This is a really pretty car. It’s a fun car to drive. Its lines look great. And this car, Dad, is something that Volvo’s Well, they’ve been doing for a while now. And I think, let me pull up my facts here. It was introduced in 2016. They’ve got some new trim level names for 2025. But for the most part, Dad, they’ve kind of just done some subtle redesigns to this car. And that’s because it’s done really well for them. And it really attracts kind of the right type of buyer, which is, again, you need to carry around four people, maybe five, and still have some cargo room because you can split that third row up. And that the benefit of these plug-in hybrids over the all-electric vehicles that are out there is you have the capability of just charging from a normal 110-volt outlet, right? Just plug this car in. And overnight, in most cases, I think it’ll probably charge straight from your outlet, right? As long as you give it about 10, 12 hours to charge. I don’t have the exact figures in front of me. Now, if you do have a level 2 charger, I think this thing will go from basically zero miles to about 40 miles. all within, I don’t know, maybe two, three hours, Dad, right? These plug-in hybrids, because these are just such a much smaller battery pack, right, than compared to their full EV counterparts. And so, folks, while this used to qualify for some different rebates and things like that, but the benefit of this is, like a lot of the cars in this segment and even other segments, is if you want that flexibility to say, hey, I’m not going very far today, or maybe my commute’s 20 miles one way, even with picking up the kids, dropping them off, or maybe it’s about 50 each day. Well, you’re only using 10 miles of gas only. You can probably go maybe even two, three weeks on just charging this car, Dad, right, not having to put fuel in it.
SPEAKER 14 :
and i think there’s a benefit there and you’ve driven these volvos in the past the luxury really is nice on these on these swedish made vehicles luxury safety of course volvo well known for their safety and how they actually build the vehicle it’s one of the safest vehicles on the road i mean i would not hesitate to buy one of their vehicles i do like the plug-in hybrid version uh probably more than i do even though i’m a standard ev you know car owner i like the plug-in hybrid because you kind of get the best of both worlds meaning if you want to take a trip across the country knock your socks off, go for it. If there’s some places to plug in along the way, so be it. If not, you can still go coast to coast very easy, just like you could in a regular internal combustion engine vehicle because it has one of those on it. It is a true hybrid, but yet it’s plug-in, meaning that you get that benefit of that 40-mile range or so around town where, like you said, Richard, a lot of people would never even have the regular gas engine come on in most cases because if they charge nightly, that that normal charge daily would be sufficient for them to go to and from work, school, whatever it is. And by the way, do it in complete luxury and style and safety at the same time.
SPEAKER 06 :
Nope, absolutely. And last thing I’ll say is, like you say, again, folks, price point, about $88,000, $89,000. It is a luxury SUV. Don’t get it confused. However, it’s a car that the warranty kind of proves that, Dad, with what they’ve done. And like you say, the safety is sort of second to none. That’s kind of what they became known on. And they just put a lot of nice creature comfort. They actually redesigned the infotainment display, Dad. It made it easier to use. And for those of you that have listened to our past reviews on Volvo, that’s maybe the only biggest complaint we’ve had. It’s an easier-to-use interface. Really cool how they’ve integrated CarPlay and Android Auto into there, all that. So if you want to learn more about this, folks, hit your local Volvo dealer, test drive this vehicle, get your family in it, ask questions about the EV side of it, those sorts of things. And when you do that, let them know that John and Richard Rush from Drive Radio and Rush to Reason sent you.
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SPEAKER 14 :
All right, Drive Radio, KLZ 560. And today we sort of transitioned into… The whole car radio end of things, which was not my plan today, which is fine. I mean, whatever you guys want to talk about, we’re in, and it brings back memories. And it’s been a long time since I even went back and thought about all the different radio things that were happening. Now, I will say this, and maybe Ken and Mark both can relate. So as a kid, with all the cars I had, and fast cars and different things and so on, I guess budgetarily speaking is why I never went to any of the big radio shops and spent big dollars, even though I probably could have. I never spent money doing all of the big subwoofers and big speakers and tweeters and all the fancy sound systems and so on. And it wasn’t because I didn’t like music and all that. I spent money on fast cars. So I would rather have a set of headers or exhaust or an intake or carburation or whatever else I could do, and I didn’t spend money on the radio side of it. I spent it on how fast can I go. You know, there’s an old saying, speed costs money, how fast can you afford to go?
SPEAKER 11 :
Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I spent all my money trying to go fast, and I didn’t really care so much about the sound quality of the stereo. It’s not that I didn’t have a decent stereo, but I did all that stuff myself. I would buy a pre-done deck, and I did my own speakers and wired them, but I never went as far as building all of the amps and all of that stuff. I just never went down that path. I was more into how fast can I go.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, that was my – that’s how I rolled too. I wanted loud music, but it’s like, you know what, I need this car to run good.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, exactly. I was more about I want to build the next engine.
SPEAKER 10 :
I’m not so worried about – Nobody’s talking about, oh, yeah, your radio sounds really good, but, yeah, he blew your doors off.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right? Yeah, thank you.
SPEAKER 14 :
I was more of that than I was into the radio.
SPEAKER 10 :
You sounded really good behind me. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 14 :
He’s a good one, by the way. Jeff, you’re next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 17 :
Hey, good morning again. You’re welcome, Jeff. Do you remember the radios that had the little triangles on them, three triangles on the dial? As you would tune back and forth, there would be three spots in the radio. Those were part of an emergency broadcast.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I remember those. Yeah, that was the emergency thing, right? Emergency broadcast.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. It was a civil defense frequency during the Cold War. And they kind of went away in the 60s and 70s because now every radio station has the emergency alert system. And you’ll hear that little beep, beep, beep that comes on. So every station is part of that. Interestingly, they had to switch those transmitter frequencies around. locations around because they were afraid that Soviet bombers might home in on the signals, use them as a way to home in.
SPEAKER 14 :
That I did not know. I had no idea.
SPEAKER 17 :
Also, there’s four different, they’ve gone through a bunch of changes over the years, but there’s four different levels of certification for AM radio stations. A, B, C, and D. And the higher ones are the ones that can do the 50,000 watt low torques. I don’t know if KLZ goes up to 50,000. No, we’re 5.
SPEAKER 1 :
10,000.
SPEAKER 14 :
We’re B.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, DR, we have a little Catholic radio station broadcast in the valley here. It probably goes two miles, three miles or so. It’s like, I don’t know how many, 10 watts maybe? Probably, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, again, those 50,000-watt blowtorches were meant to be able to send the signal all over the United States in case of an emergency alert to make sure everybody could get it, so. And interestingly enough, there’s an AM station I listen to down in Missoula that’s on the exact same frequency as a country station somewhere in the United States. It could be in the south for all I know, but it gets completely overwhelmed at night. Got it. If you go outside the city, because I think the one in Missoula can broadcast at 500 watts, maybe 1,000. And the southern one’s $50,000, so it doesn’t even hold up.
SPEAKER 14 :
Charlie said it’s possible it’s Mexico because they can run a million watts because they’re not regulated the same way we are.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, I don’t know. It could be Mexico, but I don’t know that they play American country.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, you’d be surprised. Absolutely they do. No, literally they do. I’ve been down there and tuned the dial on the rental car and so on, and, oh, yeah, they do. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Keep in mind, there’s a lot of Americans that live in those areas, and they’re the ones that have money.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, yeah, except that there have been some demonstrations in Mexico City about the tourists who came down here.
SPEAKER 14 :
There has been in Mexico City, but that is, by the way, that’s an anomaly because the rest of the areas understand tourism very well, including the cartels.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. Yeah, sometimes the cartels get it wrong, though. Some idiot in the cartel hasn’t gotten the message.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, sometimes, although I will tell you that for a lot of the touristy areas, Cabo specifically, those guys understand tourism very well. My feeling is, and I don’t want to get off track here, but my feeling is they own some of the resorts and so on. It’s how they launder some of the money, and they understand tourism very well and need it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yep. I can appreciate that. Yeah, and interesting car story to get back on track. A guy I worked for lived in Italy for a while, and they would break into cars to steal radios. And he had a, I don’t want to say a 66 convertible, Mustang convertible. and he just had an ordinary AM radio in it. So he would lead the top down because he didn’t want anybody cutting through his convertible pop. He just lead the top down and let people see it’s an AM radio. Don’t bother to go in. It’s not worth stealing.
SPEAKER 14 :
Interesting.
SPEAKER 17 :
That was his death deterrent.
SPEAKER 14 :
That was the deterrent. Yeah, makes sense. Makes sense. Good story. Jeff, I appreciate it. Let me take Brent before we go to our last break. Brent, go ahead.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hi. And so I talked to you guys about a while ago, probably eight, nine months ago, and I have a Ford fusion. And when I was doing the leak down test, um, I found that the four-cylinder was not good. You guys told me maybe put some stuff in it and see if that fixed it. Well, come to find out, I believe that the problem was actually it was out of time. The belt had actually slipped. When I parked it and I drove in the driveway and I bounced the car getting up inside my garage, I couldn’t restart it. And I was like, whoa. So I retimed the whole thing, pulled it back out, put it in a different location so I could actually work on it throughout. But I decided I’m going to do a check down. So I checked all that. Everything seems fine now. But I’m still getting this low EcoBoost problem. But if I do a manual shift, if I shift the car manually, it does not pop up. But if I let the car decide to shift, it can’t figure out how to quite, I think, figure out how to shift. So then it throws in a weird state, and then it thinks it has low boost and throws the code. The next thing is that also when I was manually shifting, it was fine. I’m like, oh, my gosh, I’m getting hot in the car. So I turn on the AC, and then that triggered the same response. So I don’t know if there’s an actual problem or it’s more now there’s A computer. All the leak down tests that I did were close to 90%.
SPEAKER 14 :
You had a turbo issue or something too, wasn’t it?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, that’s what it says. It says low turbo boost.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, that’s what I remember. Okay, yeah, that’s what I thought. Low boost or something, right? That’s what the code is, right?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, yeah, that’s what the code is. And I replaced all the… I’m going back to memory, and I remember the…
SPEAKER 14 :
the calls and such brent and i would say that in and i’ll let mark and and ken chime in on this but i would think you’ve got more of a computer control issue going on as much as anything especially if you can shift manually and everything works fine i would say you’ve got something going on you know in the ecm body control module something along those lines okay And this is one where you really need a good, solid scan tool, not code reader, on it while this stuff is going on to determine what is the computer actually reading and doing in response.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I do have a live monitor. I paid like $500 for this monitor. The problem is I’m not sure how to read something like that.
SPEAKER 14 :
And that’s where, yeah, and I should follow through with, it’s not just the scan tool itself. It’s the person reading. Interpreting.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 14 :
It’s like anything else where you look at a Wall Street trader and you see all this information that’s on the screen and it looks great and it’s there, but unless you know what it means, it doesn’t mean anything to anybody else.
SPEAKER 10 :
It doesn’t mean anything, right. So if you go back into your freeze frame, when it sets that code, Sometimes it will tell you what it’s seeing wrong, depending on what kind of software you’re using. Go back into your freeze frame and see when it set that code and see what… The parameters were. Yeah, see what the parameters were when it set that. I mean, is it… Yeah, just have to see what might be off in that if it shows it. It might not even show anything there, but… yeah there’s just a lot of live recording and then once it hits that then pull over and then go back and freeze frame that well you can do that but most of the software yeah most of the software you can access freeze frame because the computer is doing that stops that anyway yeah it stores that anyway yeah okay yeah your your scan tool will have that we’ll pull that from the computer right exactly
SPEAKER 14 :
It’s not the scan tool doing the freeze frame. It’s the ECM doing that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. The ECM stores that any time a code is set.
SPEAKER 14 :
So you can retrieve the data.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, so you can get that data when it actually happened.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, because they created a permanent code in there. So then that data should be there.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, that freeze frame should be in there, and you can go back and access that, see if there’s something way out of it. way out of whack on that. And then, you know, whether it be a sensor or if there’s actual boost pressure that’s low, something like that. I mean, could be the turbo starting to fail. Or does it have a new turbo on it?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, it doesn’t. But, I mean, I’ve put cameras behind there to see if the wastegate is staying open. Sure. And it’s not. It’s moving around. It’s moving freely.
SPEAKER 10 :
It’s closing all the way, everything.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I’ve felt all the way around the turbo to see if there’s like a leak or something, hot air coming out somewhere while I’m revving it up and having somebody up top underneath the car probably, you know, but not the best idea, but… things like that, and I’ve got nothing. And then, like I said, I put it in manual, and she wants to go like she’s, like, how she used to want to go. But I put her in drive, and it’s like, oh, I’m ready to go. And then, like, not even more than three minutes later, it, like, can’t figure itself out and starts not knowing what to do. And then, boop, the code comes back up.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Yeah. And, you know, it could even be, like, a software issue, you know, more updated software for that. I mean, there’s a lot of things that can, can sure cause those. I know on some of them, not necessarily the Fords, but on some of them, you know, we see a lot of turbo failures start that way, you know, to where they’re just not boosting like they should. Yeah. Yeah. Intermittent. Well, not so much intermittent, just, it just catches it in that particular, you know, in drive instead of, you know, actually shifting it manually or whatever.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
All right, that’s your next step. Brent, I’ve got to run to a break. Work that out. Let me know how that goes. You know how to get a hold of me. We’ve emailed back and forth on some things, so you can do that as well. We’ll come back in a moment. Don’t go anywhere. Drive Radio KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I left Kentucky back in 49 and went to Detroit working on assembly line. The first year they had me putting wheels on Cadillacs. Every day I’d watch them beauties roll by and sometimes I’d hang my head and cry, cause I always wanted me one that was long and black. One day I devised myself a plan that should be the envy of most any man. I’d sneak it out of there in the lunchbox in my hand. Now getting caught meant getting fired, but I figured I’d have it all by the time I retired. I’d have me a car worth at least a hundred grand. I’d get it one…
SPEAKER 14 :
Yep, one piece at a time, Johnny Cash and Mark was saying earlier, he had a big lunchbox.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, right.
SPEAKER 14 :
Let’s just say that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, car parts are not that small.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, no, you’re not building a whole car out of your lunchbox. But anyways, it’s a great song, and Johnny Cash. and a lot of you uh mentioning other songs and as well today and charlie’s played a lot of those today so thank you by the way i appreciate that very much thanks for all the text messages it’s been been a lot of fun and you know kind of getting off on the whole you know sound system radio end of things which you know one thing leads to another but it’s been good we haven’t talked about some something along those lines i don’t know that we’ve ever covered the whole you know audio end of things with different radios and all of the different things and thinking about what’s transpired over all the years and and i meant what i said earlier when it comes to the new cars of today i will give the the factory credit of course they’re wanting you to not go to the aftermarket to do all the radio sound systems and they become so integrated now into the rest of the vehicle to where the head units themselves are working in combination with the ecm and it’s all together so it’s very hard now to even make those changes that we did But to their credit, the sound that comes out of them is so much better now than it was when we were kids. I know it’s not perfect, but the need to go to the radio shop and have upgrades made just aren’t there like they used to be.
SPEAKER 10 :
I don’t need to rattle the windows anymore. Yeah. Not as much. Those days are gone. Depends on the day.
SPEAKER 14 :
Exactly so. Ken Rackley, Toontech Automotive. Thank you very much, as always. Appreciate you. Thanks, John.
SPEAKER 10 :
Give your number really quick.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, 303-364-3391. And Mark from Accountable, same thing. Give us your number.
SPEAKER 09 :
That’s 303-460-9969. All right.
SPEAKER 14 :
Appreciate you guys very much. Charlie, Larry, you guys as well. Thank you. Everybody have a fabulous weekend. If you’re listening to a replay of this on Sunday, thank you for that as well. Don’t forget, you can always text the question 307-200-8222. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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