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Indeed, let’s have a conversation, and welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Tuesday, Producer Joe. Happy Tuesday, Kim. And a great show planned for you today. So stay tuned. Check out the website. That’s KimMonson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter there. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com. Our text line, I’m behind on emails. I apologize. Text line is 720-605-0647. And greatly appreciate each and every one of you. We look at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it’s never compassionate nor altruistic to take other people’s stuff, whether or not it’s their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunity, childhoods, or lives via force. And force can obviously be a weapon, but it can be a policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation. The agenda of the World Economic Forum and globalist elites played out at the local county and state levels, particularly here in Colorado, through land use codes, zoning regulations, forced fees, all kinds of things. And we are… really add a precipice here on whether or not we will be a free country or not. That’s why we do the show, is to help you get your brain around these issues. Because remember, if something’s a good idea, you shouldn’t have to use force to implement it. On the show, we focus on the issues, and we’ll mention the people pushing issues, but really try to stay out of the personality fighting. I do thank the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show, and we’ll talk with Susan Harris in the second hour. And I greatly appreciate each and every one of our sponsors. Hooters Restaurants has locations in Loveland. right here in Aurora, just down the street on Parker Road and Westminster. They have great specials Monday through Friday for lunch and happy hour. Try out their fish tacos are famous. And so check those out as well as great nachos and great fish and chips as well. And again, that’s Hooters Restaurants, great sponsors of both the Kim Monson Show and America’s Veterans Stories. Our word of the day should be a word that you’ll be able to easily use in a sentence today in its quandary. And it’s spelled differently. I have always in my mind spelled it incorrectly. And Eric says, please, Kim, spell the word correctly. So quandary is spelled Q-U-A-N-D-A-R-Y, and it could be a state of not being able to decide what to do about a situation in which you are involved. They have an example. I’ve had two job offers, and I’m in a real quandary about over which one to accept. And some days when I am looking at The headlines, I’m in a quandary on what I should highlight first. And so we will get through a few of these headlines here in just a moment. Our quote of the day, I went to James Monroe. And this is a guy that I really would like to spend some time to get to know more about him. He was born in 1758. He died on July 4th, 1831, and he was an American founding father. He served as the fifth president of the United States. He was the last founding father to serve as president, as well as the last president of the Virginia dynasty. He was a member of the Democratic-Republican Party, and his presidency coincided with the era of good feelings, concluding the first party system era of American politics. He issued the Monroe Doctrine, which was a policy of limiting European colonialism in the Americas. He had previously served as governor of Virginia. He was a member of the United States Senate, U.S. ambassador to France and Britain, and the seventh secretary of state, and the eighth secretary of war. And in the painting, the famous painting, let me get to the details. I have this here for you guys. Hold on just a second. He is at the Battle of Trenton. And you know, the famous portrait of Washington crossing the Delaware. And in there, there’s a young man behind him that is holding the flag. And that is James Monroe. And this is from the website EmergingRevolutionaryWar.org. It says, to attack a Hessian garrison at Trenton, New Jersey, some nine miles to the south. In the foreground, anonymous men and possibly one woman of varying nationalities and races row an overloaded boat across the river, pushing great slabs of ice out of the way. Two of the boat’s occupants are not anonymous. That is General George Washington, standing resolutely near the bow, and young Lieutenant James Monroe holding the stars and stripes. And so that is, I think, super interesting. That’s your tidbit of history for the day. And this is what James Monroe said. He said, there’s a price tag on human liberty. The price is the willingness to assume the responsibilities of being free men. Payment of this price is a personal matter with each of us. And so that is our quote of the day from James Monroe. Some of the headlines that I wanted to go through. The first one is, and this is pretty huge, and that is that the Trump administration is canceling this pending loan for a massive power line project. And it says the Energy Department, this was I think last week, said it terminated a pending $4.9 billion loan guarantee offered by the Biden administration to one of the nation’s largest power line projects, marking the latest move by the Trump administration to undermine clean energy development initiatives. Now look at the bias there in that particular report, and this is from Politico. Politico leans very far to the left, but I thought it was interesting to pull this headline. It says, But the department said it opted to terminate the pending guarantee for the $11 billion project after a thorough review of the project’s financials. To ensure more responsible stewardship of taxpayer resources, the Department of Energy has terminated its conditional commitment. It goes on to say the Trump administration canceled the conditional loan guarantee on the same day it outlined its plans to dominate the global artificial intelligence race, including spurring the additional energy needed to achieve that goal. The administration has instead taken action to stunt wind and solar development. When you say that, actually what it means is that it’s no longer going to have all of these subsidies and tax credits anymore. And it says, anyway, Politico goes on to say, including a recent executive order designed to limit the ability of those projects to continue to utilize tax incentives under the GOP mega law. So this is very huge. And as we are learning that many of these transmission line projects are using eminent domain to take people’s land, for these transmission lines across rural America, ostensibly to get power to the metro areas around the country. And there’s something really wrong with that picture, and so I am very pleased to report to you this. And again, that was from Politico, so you can see the political bent on that particular piece. The next thing, and I really would like to hear from all of you on this, 720-605-0647. And that is there is this wildlife overpass that is going across I-25 and Greenland. And it says the Greenland Wildlife Crossing is set to be the world’s largest animal crossing. It says it’s under budget as halfway mark, that they’re at the halfway mark. I don’t know quite what to think about these wildlife crossings. And is wildlife smart enough to figure out that that’s where they need to cross? I don’t know. But I find it interesting that we are spending so much money on this. So I’d really like to hear from you what you all think about these wildlife crossings. I’ve seen them as I’ve driven through Wyoming. I’ve seen them and I… And I just I wonder if it’s seems like there’s an awful lot of money that is going to something that I’m not sure that animals know that that’s the place that they’re supposed to cross. Do they really want to cross? I don’t know. But I thought that that was pretty interesting. And so we’d love to hear with you from you about that as well. Yeah. Next thing, as you know, Denver is going to have a big debt question on the ballot. And it is basically they’re going to say without increasing debt that and what that means is, is it is increasing debt because there are bonds that would be paid off. And so it’s like going back to the bank and borrowing more money. So in essence, maybe your payment remains the same, but it would have gone down. So it’s very disingenuous whenever you see a bond question that begins with without increasing interest. taxes and so this is from the center square it says the denver city council added 15 infrastructure improvement projects to a proposed bond package that will appear as a ballot measure on the november 4 ballot the current list of projects totals 935 million with 823 million for of that for the projects and 112 million for project administration and contingency says we’re going to continue to work on perfecting this bond package and making sure that what we refer to voters matches what residents have told us is most important, said City Council Pro-Tim Diana Romero-Campbell. This week, we’ve added several important projects across the city, including a future recreation hub and skate park in southeast Denver. They are going around to all of these communities today. and asking for a wish list. Right now, when people are hurting in America, there’s high inflation, high property taxes, which even if you’re renting, that plays out into your rents unless you’re being subsidized through government, government taking from one person to give to another. And so they’re going around, they’re putting together a big wish list to try to get a whole bunch of people to be able to vote for that so that each of these city council members can go back to their constituents and say, hey, vote for this. You need to say no. No, as Jason Bailey has said, with citizens for no new debt, the answer on this should be no. And we have these important discussions because we have sponsors that understand how important it is to be engaging in this battle of ideas. They each strive for excellence. 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Hey, good morning, Kim. How are you?
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I am well. And so we’ve been discussing this, this whole surveillance state that we are moving into under the guise of so many different things. It could be fixing our forests, so putting up all kinds of surveillance. In our wild areas, or it could be flock cameras that are watching us and our traffic and in our metro areas, we are being surveilled all the time under the guise of keeping us safe, trying to protect us. And certainly I like that, but I’m very concerned about the surveillance state.
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Yeah, it seems to be a difficult balance when you want your own personal safety versus the safety of your rights and freedoms as well, right? So, you know, it becomes a balancing point and I think it’s tipping way too far in the other direction and people are just accepting surveillance just to be safe. The AI component of all the wildfire detection is pretty alarming. To me, you know, and I’ve been looking at some of the other companies who are involved with different types of technologies as well, and we can get into that today for sure.
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Okay. Now, Mike, there’s so many things that I like that the Trump administration is doing, but they certainly are all in on this whole AI thing. And there’s, again, good things with artificial intelligence. But the fact that they are collecting all of this data, that seems to me like one of the reasons that there’s these big data centers or data centers is because they’re collecting all of this information on us. What do you think?
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Well, unfortunately, yeah, this is something that I would completely disagree with the the administration on they just put out an executive order i’m not sure if you’re aware on june 12th of this year about wildfires it says empowering common sense wildfire prevention and response um and they talk about a few alarming things in here one would be new technologies and the other would be actually creating a new unified wildfire response agency, you know, trying to combine different agencies, Department of Interior would have and other agencies would have into a single, almost like how the DHS was created, right? You just have one single agency doing a unified fire response as well. When you combine that with the proliferation of this technology, it becomes rather alarming. So, yeah, Section 2 says within 90 days of the data disorder, Secretary of the Interior and the Secretary of Agriculture shall, to the maximum degree practicable and consistent with applicable law, consolidate their wildland fire programs to achieve the most efficient and effective use of wildland fire offices, coordinating bodies, programs, budgets, procurement processes, and research as necessary, recommend additional measures to advance this objective. So that’s pretty alarming. For everybody who remembers how the DHS just showed up out of nowhere basically 24 years ago.
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Then we’re looking at streamlining and consolidating federal government once again into one unified section.
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So there’s this part of all – I think all of us that says, oh, gosh, that sounds like that’s more efficient. And when we see headlines regarding wildfires, destruction of property and homes and lives, then that could sound attractive. However, centralizing power can be a good idea maybe, but it can be a very bad idea a lot of the time.
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Especially when – if you look at the next section, it actually – Section 3B talks about developing a comprehensive technology roadmap in consultation with the Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy to increase wildfire fighting, firefighting capabilities at the state and local levels, including through artificial intelligence, data sharing, innovative modeling and mapping capabilities and technology to identify wildland fire ignitions, which, again, you have companies like Pano, Dryad, and what have you, and weather forecasts to inform response and evacuation. Again, everyone likes to be safe, you know, but as we push farther and farther out into the wilder areas of our country, I don’t Do you believe there’s a little bit of risk? This is not talking about something like a Marshall fire, which would be, to me, a very freak occurrence. This is the fires that happen out in the middle of almost nowhere, right? National Forest, whatever. So now you’ve got this executive order saying not only should we streamline the government into one agency, we should also encourage all this A.I.
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So, but in that, I’m not hearing much about the mitigation of our forests as far as cleaning them up. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that there’s going to be a problem when you have all of this dead underbrush and you have all of these trees with the beetle kill on our mountainsides. You could have either it could be human, a human mistake, or it could be some lightning. It could start those fires. So it seems to me like one of the first things we should do instead of all of the surveillance is manage our forests.
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Well, yeah, there are some sections in there talking about using woody biomass and forest products, reducing fuel loads and things like that as well. However, I think you’re correct. We’ve been dealing with this at Jefferson County where, again, they’re taking healthy live trees up to, you know, in some areas up to 22 inches diameter or more and using them for logging as compared to taking out dead, dying things under brush and leaving the overstory, the canopy, that can trap moisture, which is better, you know, than just clear cutting. So there is an argument on both sides. I’m not a forestry expert, but I have talked with some, and it’s interesting to kind of see that debate of do you clear cut Or do you remove the dead and dying stuff and then leave the canopies and let the larger trees grow larger? They’re more resistant to fire. And I think it is interesting because we’re looking at building products that are acceptable in the WUI, which is the Wildland Urban Interface now. And one of those building products that is acceptable in dangerous areas for wildfire is heavy timbers because heavy timbers are generally resistant to burning. So if they’re resistant to burning for your home construction, Why do they have to get removed as they’re live trees in the forest? But the dead stuff, the underbrush, the understory, yeah, I think we could all agree that dead beetle kill trees definitely poses a risk. So there is some in this executive order as well. Now, the executive order itself got stymied by the House Appropriation Committee. Last Tuesday I was reading an article in something called the Mountain Journal, and it looks like they want some answers on the – the benchmarks of actually removing some of the wildland fuel and other mitigation timber volume targets and fuel reduction goals. So they also ordered the General Accounting Office to study the creation of a consolidated firefighting service and get back to them within about six months or so. So this executive order is meeting some resistance at the House level, which I think is healthy for government to debate itself and try to come up with the best product. But again, I don’t see much in this article talking about, well, why is there so much AI in this executive order? You take the Fix Our Forest Act and you take the new executive order and it looks like AI, unfortunately, would be here to stay.
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And what can we do about it? Anything we can do?
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Well, you know, the Fix Our Forest Act, first of all, is still coming up for a vote in the You know, I know that Hickenlooper is in favor. However, it wouldn’t be a bad idea to address the concerns with any center that you know. And also just kind of get the word out, I imagine, just as we’re doing here in media. Just to say, hey, this is part of it. You know, are there other methods to do besides just start having cameras out there, start having sensors on trees like what Dryad Network had to have drones like Rain Arrow. things like that, is this a better way or should it be more common sense measures of just, like you said, just really, truly getting into forest health?
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Okay. Mike, we’ve got just a couple of minutes left. I know you’re watching things on the local level as well. Anything in particular you want to highlight today?
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Well, on the local level, we’re still looking at the Arvada land use rate. So that’s coming up in a few weeks. Pretty healthy debate right there. And we’re definitely getting somewhere. It’s kind of exciting. One of the issues we kind of ran into is this alkaline hydrolysis or the water cremation. And that’s always an interesting debate because, you know, is that an applicable use of our sewer system? I don’t know if you’re really aware about water cremation.
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I don’t. So explain that quickly.
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Basically, it’s a new service. It was made legal, I believe, in 2011 in Colorado, where they’ll take a unfortunately deceased person, put them in a kind of bath of a high pH fluid, if you will, and then heat that fluid in that person up and basically melt that person away, take the bones out. They have to do something with the bones, and then they can dispose of the liquid remains right basically into our sewer system.
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That seems weird.
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Yeah. And then coupled with the fact that while they need an industrial wastewater permit for this situation, just so everybody’s aware, the… The Water Quality Control Division at the state level is looking at using reclaimed water in yet another use. Might be a good idea, might not be, but they want to look at using it in snowmaking for ski slopes. And I just sat in on a meeting for that, and it was pretty interesting because there’s a fair bit of a ski lobby, it would seem, and they want to use reclaimed water up on the ski slopes. And that also seems interesting when you start combining what goes into our drain and then what might go up onto the mountains.
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Okay, so just to clarify, and then we’ll leave this as a cliffhanger and get you back on this. So there’s a procedure when somebody is deceased, they go through this procedure and it creates liquid and they’re putting that liquid into our wastewater, right? Is that what you’re saying?
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That’s what it seems to be, yeah.
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Boy, that doesn’t seem like a very good idea to me. So we’ll leave that as a cliffhanger, Mike Rolick, and we’ll get you scheduled to talk about that again. And also, we’re seeing all kinds of rewrites on land uses. And so we’ll want to delve into this Arvada land use as well. So we’ll get you scheduled again very soon, Mike Rolick. Thank you so much for being a citizen watchdog.
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Thank you. Have a great day, Kim. Bye-bye.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out the website. That’s kimmonson.com. And on the line with me is Colorado State Senator Mark Baisley. He represents Colorado’s 4th Senate District. He is also a candidate for governor. Mark Baisley, welcome to the show.
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Thank you, Kim. It’s a joy to be with you, and I’ll apologize in advance for my sexy voice. I’m getting over, I don’t know, a flu or something. COVID or something. I get COVID in the natural way. I get it from a wet market.
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Oh, did you? Okay. You’ve got a birthday coming up.
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Is that right?
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That’s what I heard.
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Why would you hear such a thing? Yeah, it’ll be a big one for me, too.
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Okay. Well, happy birthday. And I thank you for all that you have done representing the people of Colorado. And Colorado, we’re in a tough spot, Senator Baisley. So give us an update. What do you think about the state of Colorado?
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Yeah, we’re in an unhealthy state. Now, the Democrats control virtually everything statewide. So they have the vast majority in the House and the Senate and the governor’s office. And then the other statewide offices as well, Attorney General and Secretary of State and the Treasurer, both U.S. Senate offices. So the single party rule is not good you know kim i i’ve thought to myself uh i look at what they do and when when you know when we go into uh an office like that then you have a you go in there with motivation with a purpose and you know people will go in there sometimes just because they think it’d be cool to have that title or to have that position but some go in there with a a single mission and uh Others, more patriotic folks, I think, come in there for the good reason of managing the government. The folks that come in in the unhealthy way, which is what we have most of the time now, is people that come in to manage the people rather than manage the government. And they do so with the power that they have. So I asked myself recently, what did we do with that when we Republicans… had those majorities everywhere. And the one real shining example of good use of that moment was Taxpayer’s Bill of Rights. So the Republicans, when they’re in charge, when they’re given the responsibility and the authority to make law, they came up with limitations on the government. And I wish that we had done a whole lot more of that back when we had the opportunity. And, you know, if you could reach back in time, that’s what I would be saying to the legislature and the governors of decades past. Say, hey, get more guardrails in place because this place is about to explode. And as you know, Kim, because you monitor these things regularly, We set new records all the time for the numbers of bills that pass. So the record stands from last year at 705 bills that push through the process. And so many of them are to manage the folk. And also, the other unhealthy part about it is there’s a strong emphasis on sexuality. There’s just an obsession over on the other side of the aisle with sexuality and the kinky kind. And they press it, press it onto the families. And so, yeah, we need to get back to managing the government in the limited ways the government was supposed to exist in the first place for things like… Setting up infrastructure towards a good economic benefit, not to give jobs, but to create a great environment where jobs will be created naturally as it always happens.
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Right. And in the private sector, government doesn’t increase, produce anything. And the only way a government job is created is because money is being taken from hardworking everyday people. Let’s make a distinction here. As you mentioned, all of the higher offices in Colorado are currently held by Democrats. Right. But these Democrats are not the Democrats of JFK or your grandpa and grandma. These Democrats are radical activists, which we are seeing push. Really, it’s a Marxist agenda of government control of people’s lives. And instead of, again, JFK lowered taxes. And so there’s no real correlation between it. JFK Democrat and the Democrats that are in office in Colorado at this time?
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Boy, you’re not kidding. And it’s almost like demonic possession. You know, it’s a small group of really radical folks have taken over the Democrat Party and done so very methodically over the past few decades, I suppose. Yes, way beyond what JFK excuse me, what JFK, his whole worldview would look very, very tame and inspirational, of course, even for us today. But yeah, what they do now, you know, there are a lot of them. I mentioned earlier, folks come in with a single view, single subject view. So we’ve had candidates come in or legislators come into office, um, one who lost his son in the, the Aurora theater shooting. So his whole existence has to do with getting rid of guns, denying people their right to defend themselves because he, he believes that that’s what caused the death of his son is that people have their second amendment rights. So he, he aims to, to rid us of our second amendment, right. For our sake, right. It’s, uh, and we’ve had, uh, one new, we have one still in the office in the house who, um, was evicted from his home when he was, uh, I believe around 12 years old, his family was evicted. So, so he comes in with all the, um, um, controls over landlords and he’s making it a miserable place to, uh, to provide rentals in Colorado. Um, and then we have, have one that’s no longer in office, but, uh, We had a disabled veteran who was injured and lost use of his legs from a helicopter crash. And we, of course, appreciate him for his service. But everything that he worked on had to do with handicap access. So as an example, the entire… interface to every agency online in the state that’s all being reworked so that there is all of the accessibility compliance online for interacting through websites across every agency. And that’s an extremely expensive transition. but we, we get those, those folks in there and that’s all they do. And they’ll, they’ll run five bills every year that just, uh, focus on just those, those items. And that’s not a healthy thing either. So, um, instead of focusing on, um, trying to make this state run better and create great opportunities, economic and educational opportunities, then they get off the rails. And, um, so I’m hoping that we get back to at least balance next year and, uh, and vote in at least a governor who will veto all the terrible bills that come pouring through rather than give a wink and a nod and sign them into law. I mean, it’s one thing to have them come through and get debated and win in the legislature, but we need a conscience who stand there in the governor’s office to say, no, that’s a bridge too far. I’ll be sparing the people from that bill. We don’t have that now.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and Mark Baisley, this Colorado that I love, it really is – it’s in decline. And it’s because of these policies by these radical activist Democrats. But I think it’s also we need leadership that will really stand against that agenda. And we’ve seen – I think sometimes, and particularly as I’m watching legislation, I’ll see Republicans put their names on pieces of legislation. It’s like to reach across the aisle, put their name on a piece of legislation to get along with the Democrat. And I’m thinking, keep your names off of those and take a stand. I know it’s difficult, but I really would love to have Republicans really begin to stand on principle. What’s your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, for sure. Principles of liberty, huh? Yes. You know, I’m by trade an aerospace engineer. I live in Colorado because what is now Lockheed Martin moved me out here 36 years ago. It was Martin Marietta back in the day, and So as I entered in the state legislature back in 2019, I was serving in the House of Representatives at the time, and in my first couple of weeks, I realized, boy, I need a process. As an engineer, I need a process to think through these bills, because hundreds of bills were coming at me, and I found that I was an expert on like half of 1% of them, you know, just You don’t know all the things that are going to come at you in water rights and in veterinarian limitations and just a whole variety of interesting topics, but that you’re not expert on, and you’re being asked to vote wisely on that. So I came up with five questions that I ask of every bill, and that’s my principles. First, has to do with our oath of office uh would would this violate would this bill create a law that would violate the constitution of the state of colorado or the of the united states second does it reflect american founding principles life liberty pursuit of happiness see plural bassoon and god we trust liberty um third should this even be a law a lot of things are a good idea but shouldn’t be a law and fourth how was wisdom inform a conflict of rights because there are many times when a bill will advance someone’s rights, but at the expense of another person’s rights. So that’s, that’s just requires wisdom for a decision. And then the last one I ask is what, what would my constituents want? And I, I make that last on purpose because I usually, I never, I rarely get there. I’ve only gotten there twice where I’ve, I’ve gone to people in my town halls and say, Hey, here’s the situation, and I remember one was whether they wanted to fund all-day kindergarten. After voting to provide all-day kindergarten, the funding was insufficient, so I just asked them, hey, do you want me to vote for funding all-day kindergarten now that you’ve voted to provide all-day kindergarten? But that was the only time I’m remembering that. I know there was a second one, but I can’t remember what that was. Anyway, you have to walk into it with with your principles and have them hold tight for you, because you’re going to be confronted with a lot of questions on a lot of topics, and you’re not going to be expert on hardly any of them. So you need a process. And by the way, I keep about a 10-inch statue of Thomas Jefferson on my desk on the Senate floor. And for the first few months, he was looking at me and facing me. And after a while, I turned to him and had him facing the Democrats.
SPEAKER 10 :
And mentioning Thomas Jefferson, I found this quote from Andrew Napolitano that he said, of all of the presidents of the United States, only Jefferson got it right. He realized that the job as president was not to keep Americans safe, but it was to keep them free. I thought, wow, I like that. So we’ll keep that as our cliffhanger. I’m talking with Mark Baisley. He is state senator of California. Senate District 4 here in Colorado. He’s a candidate for governor. These discussions happen because of our sponsors. And if you’ve been injured, reach out to John Bozen and Bozen Law.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. As you know, the two nonprofits that I highlight on a regular basis on this show, the first is the USMC Memorial Foundation. And they are raising money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial and taking care of the Marine Memorial. And they’ll be celebrating their 48th anniversary on August 23rd. And so you can get tickets by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That’s usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And then the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo on the Riverwalk. They really are focusing on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism through their honoring our Medal of Honor recipients, their educational programs. And Drew Dix, co-founder, and Brad Padula, I listened to one of their recent podcasts regarding partisan politics. And again, the center is nonpartisan, nonpolitical, but a super interesting podcast. It’s Words from the Silo. So check that out at that website. That is AmericanValueCenter.org, AmericanValueCenter.org. Talking with Colorado State Senator, representing Colorado’s fourth Senate district, Mark Baisley. He’s also a candidate for governor. Mark Baisley, tell us a little bit about your candidacy for governor.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, thank you for asking. Yeah, you know, just taking from where you and I were just talking about, there seems to be a lack of urgency in to do well for the folks, to manage the government rather than managing the people. So let me give you the number one priority for me, which is something I’ve been working on as a legislator, and that is to develop economic opportunity. So I have worked hard to get Colorado qualified for the CHIPS Act, which gives us the grants and tax credits for bringing – semiconductor manufacturing from China back to the US, but Colorado in particular, I led the charge to get Colorado designated as the tech hub for quantum computing, which is bringing a billion dollars of quantum dollars into Colorado. We are now centered around University of Colorado and their physical lab up there. We are the center of quantum computing development. And then help bring the crazy Sundance Festival to Colorado. But that’s like having the Super Bowl come to town for 10 years in a row. And if we just create opportunities for economic development. then it will happen just through the natural law. And when people are economically healthy, then everything else seems to follow. We don’t worry so much about affordable housing because you can afford your house and so on. So that was the number one for me. Closely related, though, is education. Education has always been very important to me, and my emphasis is relevance in education. So I have established great conversations and relationships with the president of the University of Colorado, the president of of MSU Denver, Chancellor of UNC, the President of CSU, and so on, and in mines, spent time with them. And my goal there is to establish the relationships, the partnerships with our industries. in colorado because when when our universities are focusing on trying to prepare those students for those jobs that those those industries want need then they don’t they find that they don’t have the time to be doing all the silly indoctrination things and so it’s a that’s a strong focus for me and the presidents are cooperating with that i feel like we’ve really moved the needle over the past few years of working with that um and in safety over wildfire that you just talked about. I serve on the Wildfire Task Force and and making sure that we have all of the, not only have all the aircraft that we need, which is two helicopters and five fixed wing aircraft, but also the software to be predictive about where those fire fires are going to break out. So we get them in place before they’re even needed. Uh, law enforcement working with the Trump administration to, uh, to get the bad element out of our state. Cause we, we all know very famously that we have the bad element in our state and in an embarrassing fashion. work with them towards that. And emergency management services is another task force that I’ve been leading for five years now to get rid of surprise billing with ambulances, to fund our ambulances properly because it’s really hodgepodge. You know, 40% of every bill that goes to someone for an ambulance service goes to collections because it’s rarely covered by insurance. So I’m fixing all of that. Last thing for me is property tax. Our property taxes, we know, just go shooting up because we don’t have the governing element of Gallagher Amendment anymore. But I have the solution for that, and that’s to decouple the value of our property from the calculation of the property tax. It should never have gone that way in the first place. I’ve introduced that bill. Of course, the Democrats killed it. But I’m going to keep running that bill, and we’re going to get that one through eventually so that we have a nice, predictable, smooth, reasonable property tax system.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
So that’s where I’m headed.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. And we’ve got a couple of minutes left. One of our listeners said, how do we get rid of being a sanctuary state? What’s your thoughts on that, Mark Baisley?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, it starts first with a new governor. Look how things changed immediately when Donald Trump became the president. If you recall, there was excuses made over and over and over. We cannot fix the border. We can’t close the border. We can’t control our border until Congress acts. Well, we just got strong, powerful leadership, determined leadership, came in with the right staff, brought the right people, credible people in the right positions to take to fix that, and he fixed it right now. And so you’ll find me doing that as well. I will work directly with the Trump administration. In fact, I had a meeting with Tom Holman about a year ago, almost exactly a year ago, and I would work with Tom Holman to make sure that our folks are allowed to, and we need to overcome the legal challenges that the Democrats have put in place, the roadblocks put in place, on a statewide level, but we need to get past this position of being a sanctuary state and inviting people to come and to cost the taxpayers a whole lot of money for supporting people that ought not to be in the country in the first place. So that’ll be a big one for me to do, and I’ll cooperate with the Trump administration immediately on that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Mark Baisley, how can people get more information about you?
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s MarkBaisley.com is my website, M-A-R-K-B-A-I-S-L-E-Y.com. And, yeah, love to hear from folks. Appreciate any support, mostly. Just please vote for Mark Baisley for governor. I’ll be proud to serve.
SPEAKER 10 :
And there’s a lot of information there. Again, that’s Mark Baisley, B-A-I-S-L-E-Y dot com. And Mark, thank you to you and your family for stepping forward to run for office. Really, well, run for governor. Really do appreciate it. And thank you for your service as a representative and senator here in Colorado as well.
SPEAKER 08 :
You’re so awesome, Kim. I appreciate you immensely. Thank you.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, again, that’s markbasley.com. And our quote for the end of the show is James Monroe. This is a little long, but I thought it was fascinating. He said, Let us then look to the great cause and endeavor to preserve it in full force. Let us by all wise and constitutional measures promote intelligence among the people as the best means of preserving our liberties. And that’s why we do the show, is to help you get your brain around these issues. So, my friends, today, be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals. And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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Happy Tuesday, Kim.
SPEAKER 10 :
and we’ve got a great show planned here for the second hour and so let’s just jump right over here to our word of the day which is quandary and i had not spelled that correctly in my mind for a long time that’s why i am glad that erica said spell it out it’s q u a n d a r y and it is a noun it could be a state of not being able to decide what to do about a situation in which you are involved And the example that the dictionary gave us was I’ve had two job offers and I’m in a real quandary about which one to accept. So your challenge is to use the word quandary in a sentence today. And in studio with me, we’ve got obviously producer Joe is behind the boards, but we’ve got producer Luke as we are continuing our discussion on The Prince by Niccolo Machiavelli. So it’s great to have you here.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, it’s great to be here. They haven’t locked me out of the building yet, so I’ll continue to arrive.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, that’s good. I’m glad about that. And you produce a number of shows over here at KLZ and some of the other stations as well, right? I do, yes. So great to have you. And I love this. People really enjoy this book discussion, so we get these different perspectives on this. And I was in a quandary about, I’m not sure I quite understood exactly what it is that he’s talking about, so I’m in a quandary what this discussion will be, so we’ll get to that. Okay. Here in just a moment, our quote for the show is from James Monroe, and he was our fifth president. He was born in 1758. He died on July 4th in 1831, which again, one of our founding fathers, I quoted Jefferson earlier in the week, and Jefferson and Adams, John Adams, both died on the same day, which was… July 4th, 1826, 50 years to the day after the Declaration of Independence. Did you know that, Luke, that these two founding fathers died 50 years to the day? I find that amazing. And then James Monroe a few years later. I find that amazing. More than just curious. But this is what James Monroe said. He said, there’s a price tag on human liberty. That price is the willingness to assume the responsibilities of being free men. Payment of this price is a personal matter with each of us. And again, that’s James Monroe. Luke, in the first hour, I mentioned this headline regarding the Greenland Wildlife Crossing. It’s to be the world’s largest. It says it’s on time and under budget. Looking it up, it looks like it’s going to be about $15 million for this wildlife bridge in between the Denver metro area and Colorado Springs. Mm-hmm. I, first of all, $15 million, okay. It says that they want to reduce crashes with wildlife. I like that idea. I’ve always wondered, is wildlife smart enough to figure out where the bridge is? I don’t know.
SPEAKER 04 :
What do you think? Yeah, typically they are, at the very least, in places where other wildlife bridges have been implemented, they are used. I think it’s a good idea. I mean, especially when you take into account This day and age, I mean, we have so many people who are, you know, even though it’s illegal, still texting and driving, still on their phone and driving. And while that responsibility is on them, it’s not like a buck who’s jumping across the way can understand that people may not be always attentive. I think it’s a good thing, you know, reducing… crashes with wildlife. It’s a substantial aspect. Maybe it’s an observation bias. I’m out in Elizabeth, so I see cars on the side of the road and the corpses of deer and big animals on the side of the road almost every day on the way. So it’s a pretty big issue. I imagine it’s even worse out there if they’re spending the money on it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Well, and I’d love to hear from all of you what you think about it as well. 720-605-0647. And I just, I think the other part of it is, is I was just, I did a road trip out to Western Kansas on Saturday, and they’re not taking care of I-70 at all. You can tell when you hit the state line. And I had coffee with someone yesterday who handed me the synopsis of the state budget, and zero, that is zero, general fund dollars are going to transportation. And much of the transportation dollars that are being spent are going into multimodal, which is buses and bike paths and trains, and not fixing our roads and bridges. Any thoughts on that?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, I think that’s a shame. I think… There’s a couple things that taxpayers can universally agree upon. And not hitting a pothole on your way to work is one of the biggest things.
SPEAKER 10 :
And keeping your tires.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, that we all kind of universally want. Fix the roads, guys. It’s one of the biggest reasons that we pay taxes. Let’s make sure we can drive from point A to point B without having to total our car every 30 miles.
SPEAKER 10 :
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SPEAKER 07 :
Nice leading in there, Kim. Good morning.
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So, John, you just mentioned something. Witnesses disappear. So prompt action, if you can get a statement by a witness early, then that is important if you can’t reach them later, yes?
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Well, and I’ve got to think a witness. The further down the road you get from a time standpoint from when the event occurred, their memories get fuzzy.
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It starts happening pretty quick. So that is a super important reason to talk to somebody right away while things are fresh.
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Yes. So what is that best way to reach you, John Bozen, with you and your team of attorneys?
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Again, that’s John Bozen with Bozen Law. If you’ve been injured, prompt action is very, very important. And procrastinating typically is not a good idea in anything in life. So again, that number is 303-999-9999. John, we’ll talk with you next week. Have a great day.
SPEAKER 07 :
You too, Kim. Bye-bye.
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and welcome back in studio with me is producer luke and producer joe of course because he’s behind the boards but producer luke you had been doing uh filling in for some of my shows and you and i ended up having some great discussions we decided to do these book discussions we started off with economics in one lesson by henry hazlitt that was my choice Your choice has been The Prince by Niccolo Machiavelli, and our next book will be The Communist Manifesto, which is Joe’s choice. So let’s set this up. We’re studying chapters 7 and 8. Chapter 7 is of new dominions acquired by the power of others or by fortune. So what do you think about this, Producer Luke?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, so to kind of reset up, because it’s been a little while, this book by Nicola Machiavelli was written in approximately, it was 1513, but wasn’t officially published until maybe about a decade or so later. And the context in which it is written is to kind of peel back the curtain from this man who has interacted directly with previous rulers and is a big historian. Historically speaking, Machiavelli kind of was the guy, right? He was the advisor. He was the person you wanted in your corner to kind of help you if you were a ruler. And this is one of his later works after he had fallen a little out of favor. Like I said, it’s kind of a reveal. It is a peel back of the curtain to kind of inform how certain people come to power and then once they’re in power, how they hold it. And chapters 7 and 8 specifically are detailing three… Three to four kind of distinct methods in which people come to power and then how they hold their power after rising from that position. This chapter in particular talking about concerning new principalities or powers, which are acquired either by the arms of others or by good fortune, depending on the version of you have. Obviously, again, for reference, power. this book was translated into English from its origin language. So depending on your translation, may use different words, which is kind of interesting to keep in mind as you listen to the different versions. And while I was reading this, there was a sentence, a little piece that came about that I thought was kind of interesting, especially given the time in which this was written. So I’ll read a little excerpt that I have from my version. It says here that states that rise unexpectedly, then, like all other things in nature which are born and grow rapidly, cannot have their foundations and relations with other states fixed in such a way that the first storm will not overthrow them. Unless, as it is said, those who unexpectedly become princes are men of so much ability that they know they have to be prepared… Which is kind of a mouthful. It is. But I think to sort of simplify it is stating that If you find yourself in a position of power due to either fortune or the arms of others, more often than not, you will find yourself failing unless you are of such genius and of such character and are capable of thinking so far ahead that you can lay a stable foundation for this thing you have been given. And given that this was written in 1513, I find it kind of interesting to almost draw a parallel to the founding of America in a way. And not to say that the signers of the Declaration of Independence were given America through fortune, but they were in essence given. given America through the arms of others, unless Benjamin Franklin was on the front lines. I don’t think he was. I don’t think John Adams was there either. So it is through the arms of others that this nation was acquired, but it was through their capacity to think further ahead and to lay a stable foundation of a nation that that America has been able to persist well beyond, I think, what historically would have been its expected lifetime.
SPEAKER 10 :
So just a clarification, certainly you’re correct regarding Benjamin Franklin, but yet you had Washington, Monroe, Alexander Hamilton, that they actually were picking up arms. So it was a combination, don’t you think?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, yeah. I think that’s a really good point. I just think it’s so interesting to see this perspective written from someone, you know, hundreds of years before the founding of America ever came to be. Provide this example of, hey, things that, you know, the star that burns the brightest, you know, dies the fastest, right? These things that come about so rapidly have a tendency to fail unless there is a stable foundation. And to see here… He doesn’t provide any example. He doesn’t go on to say, and here’s an example of something that rose very quickly and then worked because of a good foundation. He gives later examples in the text of some principalities, some states that lasted maybe a generation. And those to him were the… sort of pinnacle of rising to power and keeping that power. So to see an example come out of America using almost not his theories, but sort of following that path of, hey, if you want it to succeed, you should probably do X, Y, and Z. And to see that play out so many years after his death, I think is very interesting. It kind of gives weight to things he says later in the text, where, you know, we’ve seen America succeed for 250 some odd years. It’s like, hey, maybe this guy knows what he’s talking about. He was, you know, some hundred odd years kind of ahead of everyone else, at the very least, in his theory.
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s really interesting. And the foundation component is interesting. Producer Joe, let’s have you weigh in on this.
SPEAKER 21 :
I was just thinking, I find it interesting that through that in America, I think there’s kind of a mixture of both pieces where you get the presidency by means of others’ arms and also through luck because we have a candidacy race and then we go through. And so there’s other people helping on the back end. I find it interesting that it was a combination that curates the presidency each year, and those are people who usually have outstanding abilities.
SPEAKER 10 :
So, and when you say the arms of others, you’re not meaning military arms, you’re meaning the efforts of others?
SPEAKER 21 :
Yes, ma’am.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, okay. Luke, one thing that I don’t think Machiavelli could really think about is the idea that the founding fathers put their lives on the line for liberty, for future generations, and put together this foundation. As you said, we’re at 250 years, 1775. There was a lot going on at that time. Next year will be our 250th anniversary. So clearly they put in place a foundation. as well. But they were not. And I know this is is a discussion that’s out there that that said they were in it for themselves, which I think that’s what Machiavelli would say that they were, these leaders were in it for themselves instead of for others. And I think that’s somewhat unique in the American idea. And I think that I think a lot of kids are not taught that there was so many selfless acts to bring the founding of America. What do you think about that?
SPEAKER 04 :
I wouldn’t – I don’t know if I would call it entirely unique in its intent. I would call it unique in both its intent and subsequent success and execution, where I think over the course of history, there have been a number of people – A number of groups, a number of establishments who have fought for good reasons, though they haven’t always succeeded or once they find power, find that power corrupting. I think America is a very good example of fighting for very good reasons, and through no fault of the founders, I think have found that power corrupting a little bit. I think it’s hard to look at the current state of affairs, either in the previous administrations that have happened in the past, or even just on a more local level, to see how the ideas of the founding fathers and the sort of foundation that has been established has been twisted and chipped away at and nicked for others’ good fortune. for the benefit of those who are willing to exploit it. As a matter of fact, later in this text, Machiavelli talks a little bit about a historical example. This is in the later chapter, so jumping just ahead because I feel like it’s relevant. He talks about – forgive me on the pronunciation of this man’s name – Oliver Otto is referenced as a prince who came to power through criminal act, who came to power because he schemed and plotted. And it mentions here that he was raised by his paternal uncle after having become an orphan and gained a lot of honor and integrity through his efforts through campaigning. Oliver Oda was historically regarded as a pretty, you know, honorable man until one day he had a little taste of power, killed his family, usurped everything that his uncle had ever built and took it all for himself, only to hold it for a couple of years before it fell out from under him. So I think Machiavelli, at the very least, in these instances, when we’re talking about this on a historical standpoint, a lot of his examples, the stuff that he saw in his lifetime, was selfishness. A lot of his experience in dealing with power is in seeing how that power corrupts or seeing how that power is abused, right? Very rarely does Machiavelli offer an example of what he believes to be a truly honorable man who did well, in which he references people he respects for their honor, people who have integrity. But in the same breath, Machiavelli also says because of their integrity and honor in these spaces, they failed. And they failed due to the lack of integrity and the lack of honor employed by the enemies.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Joe, do you want to weigh in before we go to break on that?
SPEAKER 21 :
I was just thinking it’s interesting because Luke mentioned that we’re not the first one to have this kind of idea for America. We just executed it at best. But we had other small states like Greece and stuff. So I think America, the reason it’s so successful as well is we are the biggest conglomeration of people who believe in this idea. And so I was thinking that was interesting.
SPEAKER 10 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, the next thing we should talk about sort of is a lead-in. We’re talking about America’s founding and sort of talking about Machiavelli’s examples of… How some of that can corrupt Machiavelli references a lot about how people come into power and then hold that power. And a lot of times people hold that power through nefarious means. And I know that you have a guest in the next segment. So we kind of need to wrap up in this one. So I wanted to go through a list, sort of the spark notes version, very condensed. He uses, you know, he’s very verbose and very eloquent with his speech. So I wanted to kind of boil it down to a few points. Because I think it’s interesting to see how these are also being implemented in America today. He mentions that when you gain power through the arms of others, it is often difficult to maintain that power unless you employ systems for control. And the best way to employ that control is to… Destroy those in power who opposed you. He says, almost in essence, to kill them. I imagine it’s a bit harder to just go around and stab people to death today. But, you know, to destroy them, to undermine them. To gain the favor of the wealthy and the well-connected. And then to embed yourself into institutions of learning in the church. He then proceeds to give an example of how a previous ruler had failed to embed himself into the church, and that was his point of failure. But it’s interesting to sort of take that idea and see how those who seek to do harm are still doing these things. They are destroying their opposition. They are embedding themselves with the wealthy and well-connected. They are integrating themselves into the universities and trying to weasel their way into institutions of religion. The next thing he says is to, in simple terms, create the problem and then sell a solution. He then proceeds to give an example of when a duke occupied the Romanja. He had found it was under weak rule. So his solution, this duke, was to embed almost a judge who was swift and cruel in the execution and enforcement of the rule of law. Well, the people didn’t like that very much. While it established order, it twisted people the wrong way. They did not like being judged swiftly and cruelly. So the Duke had this judge publicly executed as a sign of goodwill. He installed a solution, but it’s a problem, right? Someone who would do all of the dirty work for them. And then once they had served their purpose, kill them as a way to sort of placate the masses and say, see, I’m on your side. And then in the last chapter, chapter eight here, not the last, but the last of today’s show, talking about those who rise to power through nefarious means. One of the sentences he says in the tail end, which I found very interesting, paraphrasing a bit, sort of taking the beginning and the end. He says, hence it is to be remarked that in seizing a state, the usurper ought to examine closely into all those injuries which it is necessary for him to inflict and to do them all at once. So as not to have them repeated daily, we skip a few for injuries ought to be done all at one time so that being tasted less, they offend less benefits ought to be given little by little so that the flavor of them may last longer. And it is very interesting to see how that very same strategy is being employed. These massive omnibus poison pill bills that are forced through 600, 1,000, 1,200 pages of nonsense, forced through so all the pain can be done at once. And then they’ll drip feed you some solutions. They’ll very slowly dole out the things you actually want so that their flavor may be savored longer. And again, we saw his strategy sort of reinforced and employed later in America’s founding to see his strategy that he talks about in 1513 still being employed today as a way to sort of maintain rule. Very interesting stuff, I think.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, interesting. Maintain rule. And I agree with you regarding big bills. There’s always going to be some things of great concern about that. But there’s some good things in there as well. Joe, what’s your thoughts?
SPEAKER 21 :
Really all that could come to a head were a bunch of examples, but I think one of the most prevalent examples right now is the Epstein files. They gave us just enough information that we’re wanting more, and so we’re looking for the solution through it, but it’s the way they’re kind of controlling the narrative and demonizing the current administration into they’re not doing what they’re supposed to, yet… The Joe Biden administration had these files and never released them. Why do they care now? And it’s interesting because I feel like that applies.
SPEAKER 10 :
I think that’s a really interesting question. What do you think about these Epstein files, Luke?
SPEAKER 04 :
I think. I think my personal opinion, this is going to be entirely conjecture. There’s very little we actually know. So grains of salt and all that. I think both parties are largely involved, which is why both parties are weaponizing it against each other. When Jeffrey Jeffrey Epstein was originally arrested, put in prison, and then suicided, was famously under the Trump administration. During that time, I mean, I still have all the old audio files from these stations. Every show host for the next six months released the files. The Democrats are on the files. We need to release it. Jeffrey Epstein didn’t kill himself. And that was all under Trump’s administration, right? That was all, I think it was 2017, I want to say.
SPEAKER 10 :
You’re 19.
SPEAKER 04 :
Was it 19? I’ll check. Pre-election. Yeah. But it was under Trump’s administration. But we didn’t do anything with it then. It was leverage. Well, then the Biden administration comes into power and we’re still not doing anything with it because it’s leverage. And now we’re in Trump’s administration again. and we’re not doing anything with it. Probably because it’s leveraged still. I think, 2019, yes. Okay, thank you. I personally, and again, not to get too personal with this, I think the current narrative of just drop it and forget about it is very Orwellian. It falls pretty firmly into the ignore the evidence of your eyes and ears, right? It doesn’t matter what you hear or what you see. The only thing that matters is what the party tells you. 1984 Georgia Orwell. Yeah. I don’t like that. I don’t like that we’re being asked to forget about it. I think it is substantial, has been substantial for many years. I don’t think it’s going away anytime soon. And the effort put into telling us to forget about it is more damning than not.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Super interesting. Let’s wrap this up. Let’s go to you first, Joe, and then we’ll go back to you, Luke. This is great, and we’ll do the next chapters next month. I love this. So your final thought, Producer Joe.
SPEAKER 21 :
So… I kind of agree, Luke, but I also feel like it’s a smokescreen for the left because we haven’t heard anything about the extra successes that Trump’s had in dealmaking and other things due to the fact that everybody’s focused on this Jeffrey Epstein stuff. And I think it’s just used as a magic trick to try and demonize the current administration.
SPEAKER 10 :
Interesting. OK, thank you, Producer Joe. Producer Luke, your final thought.
SPEAKER 04 :
My final thought is I do not like the way people are so willing to change their tune when someone in power tells them to. I think it is important that we as individuals stick to our foundational ideals and principles that we believe strongly in and those principles should hold. even in the face of powerful people telling us otherwise. I think if we don’t have our own intellectual integrity, especially in these events, then we have nothing at all. I think you should hold on to what you believe in and what you know is true and to pursue that truth till its ultimate end, whatever that means for you.
SPEAKER 10 :
Producer Luke, thank you. Gentlemen, I really appreciate this. This is always great. So, Producer Joe, thank you. Producer Luke, thank you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, thank you for having me. It’s my pleasure.
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And welcome back. And be sure and check out the Center for American Values located in Pueblo on the Riverwalk. They are doing amazing work. They’re nonpartisan, nonpolitical, but focused on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism through their honoring of our Medal of Honor recipients, great educational programs for educators, and also for kids and adults. Just doing great work. And Drew Dix has started a new podcast series, Words from the Silo. And you can find all of that by going to their website, which is AmericanValueCenter.org. Great sponsor of the show is Susan Harris and her family. She’s on the line. Susan Harris, welcome. Good morning, Kim. How are you? Well, I am doing well. And so you do live in Arizona. And Arizona, I thought, let’s get an update on what’s happening with one of our neighboring states. And regarding elections and election reform. And I was looking at this piece that I sent over to you late from the Arizona Mirror. And the legislative session began. concluded last month, and I didn’t think this was possible, but it says in this article that there was 1,854 pieces of legislation that was introduced. How is that possible?
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, it’s mind-boggling that it’s even happening. And the article kind of focuses on the gridlock that we have going on here because we have a A governor who’s a Democrat, but then our legislative bodies are Republican majorities. Both the House and the Senate have Republican majorities. And as a result, it’s just a constant back and forth. Legislation gets passed. It goes to the governor. Sometimes she’ll sign it depending, you know, if it’s pretty innocuous. And that probably accomplishes very little. But she’s vetoed a large number of bills that actually got passed of that 1,854 bills, only maybe 450 or so, maybe a little more than that actually, you know, got passed by the legislature because there’s not enough time to even look at 1,854 bills. And, you know, it, to me, thank god for gridlock because no one wants 1 854 bills to be passed in a year in 10 years i mean it’s just too much legislation and so quite frankly i’m happy that they’re not able to get anything done
SPEAKER 10 :
It seems, Susan Harris, that what should happen is there should be a focus on 10 bills to reclaim liberty and then have the legislators get behind those and be out there talking to their constituents saying, these 10 bills will help move us towards your own personal liberty. That seems like that should be a strategy.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, but that requires common sense, which our government doesn’t seem to have right now. And it’s really a challenge. I do think the strategy of pushing bills – I think their strategy is pushing bills to the governor’s desk to make it so obvious that she’s just a partisan hack – And it’s not willing to do anything good for the people. If the Republicans bring it to her desk, um, unless it’s, you know, completely innocuous. So I think that’s kind of been their strategy because they’re having to deal with such a, you know, a partisan situation here in our state. And they’re just hanging on and hoping to get a Republican governor in the next election. And I really think that’s their strategy.
SPEAKER 10 :
And when is the next election for the governor?
SPEAKER 11 :
So she was elected in 2024. So is that right? No, 2022. I’m sorry. So she’s, you know, I guess 2026 will be the next governor election.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
And the Republicans do have some really good candidates that are going to be on the ticket. So we’ll see what happens.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and Susan, I know that you have your finger on the pulse of what’s happening in Arizona. What about elections? We need to assure that we have free, fair, honest, and transparent elections. And some of the headlines that I’ve read is the Republicans in Arizona had passed some good things regarding elections and that the governor, Katie Hobbs, vetoed those.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. I mean, and that’s just the situation we’re in. She’s not going to change anything about elections because right now, um, everything that’s in place works in the favor of the Democrats and allows them to continue, um, you know, kind of to work, work around, um, the actual will of the people, if you will, allegedly. Right. So, um, But, yeah, she’s just going to block anything that would change the way elections are run at this point.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
So, again, nothing is going to be accomplished because of the situation that we’re in.
SPEAKER 10 :
So at least at this point, which here in Colorado, with the trifecta of the radical activist Democrats having the House, the Senate, the governor’s office, the top administrative, well, the top offices like attorney general, secretary of state. Right. We’re in a real pickle here. Let’s change gears.
SPEAKER 11 :
You’re almost like California, you know, kind of a uniparty, one-party state. Right. There’s so much control on one side.
SPEAKER 10 :
And we’re seeing this play out by very, I would say, almost dangerous pieces of legislation. For example, the 1312 that was passed that basically says that the state can take people’s children if people do not affirm the gender dysphoria of a child. It’s crazy. Yeah. but let’s, let’s move over to national. What do you think about Trump and what’s happening with his administration?
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, I think in the big picture, it continues to just be when after when, and you know, the mainstream media or the, the most of the news outlets are doing their best to downplay everything that’s going on. Um, You know, no matter what happens, I think I saw the other day, the New York Times, after he got the EU deal passed, the New York Times, instead of saying, talking about the victory of that trade deal, said, well, how is this going to impact Europeans? Oh, my gosh. So they’ll do anything to put a negative spin on what Trump tries to get done or what he does get done. But You know, my view of the EU trade deal is we got some tariffs on our side and we don’t have to pay tariffs. But the reason we don’t have to pay tariffs, it’s not because they’re so weak. It’s because their laws restrict us in their markets already. So they actually have regulations that keep us out of their markets. They don’t need tariffs to keep us out. So, you know, they accomplish the same thing through their regulations and their fees that are in place for anyone that tries to get into their markets. So it’s just very interesting to me how all of these things are spun by the media. But I just, all the trade deals that have been happening, you know, the Thailand-Cambodia ceasefire that kind of happened over the weekend, And, you know, quite frankly, even all the Russiagate information that is coming forward, although I find it very interesting that people are surprised by this information or they act surprised or, you know, we’ve known all this information for eight years or more. So it’s not new. None of this is new. But I guess it’s kind of nice that Some of it’s being verified and that maybe it will actually come out that it is true that no, we, you know, all of us that have been saying this for years, we’re not crazy. So that’ll be interesting to see what happens. And if anyone will ever be held accountable, which I’m very skeptical of.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, that whole accountability thing, when it goes all the way to the top with Clapper and Brennan and Comey and Clinton and Obama, accountability is going to be really interesting to see how this is navigated, I think, Susan.
SPEAKER 11 :
I know. And, you know, really to get back any credibility at all with the government and not to mention the media, but most importantly, our government, to have any credibility at all. If we never see accountability, then I guess I feel like that ship has sailed and it’s just not going to happen. So I’m hopeful, but I know there are a lot of people in power on both sides of the political spectrum that do not want accountability for anything. And they love to have their cake and eat it too. They love the way the money flows and they don’t want it to change.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, as you just said that, I think that they want our cake and they want to eat it, too. Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
And the American people. What a great way of looking at it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, gosh. Hey, Susan Harris, I so appreciate you and appreciate your continued sponsorship of the show as well, because we’ve got to engage in this battle of ideas so that people can get their brain around these issues again. And I know that you do a lot of great work, Arizona and PragerU and us. And I really do appreciate that. Thank you to you and your family.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, thank you, Kim, for all that you guys are doing, bringing things to light. And, you know, we just continue to move forward and fight for what we think is right. I think it’s starting to come to pay off. It really is.
SPEAKER 10 :
I think so as well. And we do this in the spirit of our founders for our children and our children’s children. So Susan Harris, have a great day. You too, Kim. Thanks so much. And another quote from James Monroe. I love this. He said, During the darkest days of the Revolutionary War, the Continental Congress and George Washington, he said, I call him the first George W., urged citizens to pray and give thanks and ask for God’s protection. And that’s what we need to do today. So be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and justice. and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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