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In this engaging episode, Drive Radio navigates through classic car mechanics, current automotive technologies, and essential maintenance tips. From peculiar issues like tire pressure sensor alerts to the monetary dynamics of the classic car market, our hosts hold riveting discussions designed to enhance both your technical skills and automotive awareness. Plus, listen in for practical advice on car insurance that could save you thousands while ensuring improved coverage.
SPEAKER 10 :
Being an expert on general automotive knowledge, what would the correct ignition timing be on a 1955 Bel Air Chevrolet with a 327 cubic inch engine and a four-barrel carburetor?
SPEAKER 16 :
It is a trick question. Watch this. Because Chevy didn’t make a 327 in 55. The 327 didn’t come out until 62. And it wasn’t offered in the Bel Air with a four-barrel carb until 64. However, in 1964, the correct ignition timing would be four degrees before top dead center.
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Get ready for another hour of Drive Radio, brought to you by Colorado Select Auto Care Centers. Got a question for the experts? Then give them a call, 303-477-5600. Now it’s time to pop the hood and get our hands dirty. Drive Radio on KLZ 560 The Source.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, Hour 2, Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Myself, Ken Rackley, Toontech Automotive out here in Aurora. He is off of Colfax and 225, just a little bit east of 225 on Colfax on the north side of the road. So if you need anything out in this area, be sure to give Ken a call. a call and of course larry younger answering phones and charlie grimes our engineer we did have somebody that asked hey if you guys have some time which we do at the moment we’ve got lines open give us a call we’ll get your questions answered 303-477-5600 question of the day is your uh favorite or whatever you think is the worst ugliest car whatever you want to say that is the question of the day you can call in or text us that but somebody asked could we talk about hot soak. And for some folks that are out there, you may not even know what that term is. A lot of the modern vehicles with fuel injection, it’s just not as big of a deal as it used to be, but can explain, you know, hot soak and some vehicles that may be affected by it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. So, you know, if you’re driving warm days, especially, and just adds to it under hood temperatures and stuff like that, and you shut it off, go into the store, you know, get gas, you know, usually it’s the longer times, the 15 minutes or so that, you would be more apt to feel it and then you go to restart it and it has a hard time starting basically and basically what’s happening is your fuel in your fuel lines or you know it used to be carburetor the carburetor would percolate and flood the engine basically and then you’d have to get enough crank time on it to get cool fuel back into it, and so it’s not. But, yeah, on today’s vehicles, you don’t see it as much just because of the sealed system and things like that. But, yeah, it’s hard to start on a restart. And so getting back to the canister thing or the overfilling the tank, a lot of times that can happen, you know, just if the canister’s full. You know, and some of the drivability issues with… things along those lines of a purge valve check engine lights on purge valve stuck open. You fill it up and it won’t restart right away. It takes a long time because you just flooded the engine with vapor basically. And anyway, but yeah, the, The hot soak is you just have to, you know, keep cranking it long enough to get some fuel that’s not boiling. And once you get that, it starts up and might run a little rough, might, you know, might not, but it’s just a little tougher that way.
SPEAKER 05 :
and that’s a good explanation so and if you got any more questions along those lines either text me we can get into more depth if we didn’t go far enough in let me know or you can call in and ask that as well and we get into that a little bit more but typically for all of you driving now not as big of a deal as it used to be most modern vehicles with fuel injection and the higher pressures were running and so on it’s just not as big of a factor there are still some older vehicles floating around where that could be an issue so if you got any more questions on that by all means ask Ken or I and And, again, we’ll be here until 1 o’clock. We can answer those questions for you. And as I said earlier, we will not be here next Saturday for the Labor Day weekend. So if you’ve got specific questions, things that you want to ask, a project you may be wanting to tackle next weekend, we will not be around live to answer those questions next Saturday. In fact, some of us may even have more limited time. texting abilities and so on because of cell service and what have you. So if you’ve got a question, my suggestion is get that in today. Let’s get it answered because we will not be around. We’ll do a best of show for Labor Day weekend because we’re all going to take that day off. So if you have a question, get it in today and we’ll get that taken care of for you. Mark in Denver, you’re next.
SPEAKER 10 :
Good morning. How are you? Good. Doing great. Pretty boring question, but it’s never happened to me before. The tire sensor pressure. And I don’t know anything about that. So my 18 Tahoe, the thing goes on. I check the air pressure in the tires, 35 pounds. I’m not losing any air. And I have no idea. What does that cost to reprogram and put a new sensor in?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, no, I was going to say, as the batteries could be getting weak and the sensors themselves just from time, which they’re good for about seven years. So you’re a little bit over that now. So you’re pretty much there, Mark. And cost, it’s really – and you can do the sensors aftermarket. They don’t have to come from the factory. In fact, I think some of the aftermarket sensors are most likely exactly what the OEM is going to sell you anyways because they don’t make tire sensors. So at the end of the day – and, Ken, I haven’t – I’ve done this on the retail side. I’ve done it internally. So what is the retail cost of doing sensors and a replacement? Because I don’t know, to be honest with you.
SPEAKER 11 :
I don’t really either, other than me having to pay the tire company to do it because we don’t do tires and stuff like that. And I’m thinking they’re $80 to $100 a piece. So I’ve always done it when I do tires, so I don’t really notice the breakdown on that. But I’ll get the tires and the sensors all done at the same time. You said battery sensor. Where do the batteries go?
SPEAKER 10 :
I’ve never heard of that.
SPEAKER 11 :
It’s all built in.
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s all sealed in.
SPEAKER 11 :
They’re not serviceable.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, okay. So it’s built into the valve.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes. That’s a great question, Mark, by the way, because most people don’t know what these look like. There’s little different configurations for batteries. different ones of these that are made. What I mean by that is some companies will use a little different sensor and it might be a little wider, a little deeper, some will be a little bit narrower and smaller, but it’s a communication device.
SPEAKER 11 :
Transmitter.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, transmitter. It’s picking up the pressure, of course. It’s inside of the tire itself. And it’s about an inch, inch and a half long. I don’t know, half an inch wide or so. And it’ll be under the valve stem. So it’s all part of the valve stem assembly. That’s why you see a nut that’s actually on the valve stem that holds everything together. It’s not the normal squeeze in and pop in. Although there are some that do work that way. The better sensors typically will have a nut and they actually will screw down and screw onto the wheel.
SPEAKER 10 :
So do you have to break the wheel?
SPEAKER 05 :
You have to break the bead on the wheel, yes. That is correct.
SPEAKER 10 :
And then put the sensor in from the inside.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes. Correct. Now, on the aftermarket side, again, and this is something that, you know, do some checking around and find out what some of the different shops will do. And, Mark, where you’re at, Geno’s can do that for you, by the way. That’s something that they do, and they’re kind of in your area as well. They can do that for you because they do tires and so on. And, you know, you can pay anywhere. I think Ken is right. Depending upon the quality of the sensor, you can spend anywhere from $30 to $80 per sensor. It just depends on year, make, model, quality you’re looking for and so on. They can tell you all of that as well, by the way.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. Well, on another note, I switched all my insurance over to your recommendation.
SPEAKER 05 :
Awesome.
SPEAKER 10 :
Nice people. I’m working with Dave. Perfect. Yep. And he’s been great to me. He saved me. $3,000, $4,000, and I actually got better coverage. I was kind of nervous going to these independent guys that go through all these searches, but we were able to insure the Volvo convertible and the Porsche for far less money than what I was paying.
SPEAKER 05 :
Cool.
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s cool.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s great.
SPEAKER 10 :
I’m going to do the house and the other two cars and the trailer. And so everything’s good, but it’s a real pleasure. I’ll tell you, that’s quite a menagerie in that office there. There’s a lot of stuff to look at.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, there is. Absolutely. That’s good, Mark. I appreciate that. Thank you for the kudos.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Well, I have no ugly cars. No, you do not.
SPEAKER 05 :
You do not. I’ll second that. You do not.
SPEAKER 10 :
I don’t have ugly cars.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I don’t either, by the way. I won’t own an ugly car. Let’s just say it that way.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I just have never, I mean, I consider the square-bodied suburban a work of art is what I do.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, man, and they are getting to be just a complete side note. For those of you listening, if you own one of those, they are just continuing to go up and up in value on almost a monthly basis, Mark. They’re just, I don’t see them going anywhere. They’re going to be that way for quite some time.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I’m watching a 95 Tahoe right now, square-bodied, blue leather interior.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Talk about not restful, but $7,000, it’s got 53,000 miles on it.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s worth that. They’re not going to go down in value. It’s worth that.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, and they’re cheap to fix.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. No, you’re right. You’re right. And for everybody listening, even the – well, of course, we all know the 67 to 72s are worth a lot of money, but even the 73 to 80s are getting to be worth more money even yet because there’s very few of those left. And, Mark, even the – The 81 to 87s, those square-bodied ones are getting to be worth more money. I mean, any of the early Chevys, I don’t care what they are. Not that I’m biased by any means, but they’re worth more money than the counterpart of Ford and, of course, Ram. Some of the Ram chargers are bringing some decent money for a change, but none of them have done what the early Chevys have done, Mark.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I found a 56 Suburban for sale, but my wife said, you bring that home, you’re not going to live here anymore.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and that’s a car, for everybody listening, that’s a car that, while it’s cool, the 50s era is going down in value, not up in value. That’s a car that you’ll buy today and get less for it in five years.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Sorry to say, but that’s the truth.
SPEAKER 10 :
I’ll just drive by it, wave to it, and take off.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, those are cars because, you know, for everybody listening, I’m going to spend a minute or two on this because you brought up a great point, Mark, that I don’t think most people think through because you may get a car that you really love and you think it’s great, a 57 Chevy, for example. I personally, if I were going to buy a car, an older car for an investment, it wouldn’t be a 57 Chevy or a 56 or a 55. Great cars, love them, love the looks and all of that. The problem is there’s less buyers for those cars today than there was prior, and that’s getting worse because as that generation starts to die, as they get older, don’t have that love for it, or they’re not around to even drive them anymore and so on, Mark, the demand is starting to decrease. The supply, though, realistically hasn’t changed because those cars aren’t driven enough to be wrecked, and they may get stolen here or there, but realistically there’s as many of them on the road today as there was even five years ago. So point being, the supply is there, but the demand is diminishing. So those of you that are in that world that are thinking about buying a classic car, you can buy those relatively inexpensively, but they’re not going to gain in value.
SPEAKER 10 :
I have a friend that had two Duesenbergs and two Auburn Speedsters.
SPEAKER 05 :
Different type of car, by the way. Those are class of their own. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, they got rid of them five years ago because everybody uses these for barrel hearses now.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
I mean, the population base that’s looking at a car like that is gone.
SPEAKER 05 :
You’re right. No, Mark, you’re correct. Yeah, sure. And they timed that fairly well. Now, those cars are still doing okay, but I wonder how much longer will they?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, they’re not going to go up probably anymore.
SPEAKER 05 :
I don’t think they’re going up much. No, I really don’t think they are.
SPEAKER 10 :
They’re going to maybe maintain them. What made him get rid of that car is it stalled on me. He had to push a Duesenberg.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Gotcha. I mean, and for those of you listening, the cars that are really starting to – and they have been for a while now – but the cars that are going up – and I just keep looking at these things thinking, man, where is the limit? You take an original 69 Z28 Camaro, even the 70 Z28s. I mean, anything that says Z28 from about 72 back is getting to be worth just a boatload of money. Same thing with LS6 Chevelles and so on. I mean, all of those cars, Mark, are just, even though there are Pontiac and other counterparts in GM, they’re not bringing what a Chevrolet does, not even close.
SPEAKER 10 :
No. Okay, well, thank you, gentlemen.
SPEAKER 05 :
You’re welcome, Mark. Great comments, great questions. The tire sensor thing, yeah. In fact, that’s something we probably don’t hit as much on. For those of you where you’re struggling with maybe getting something to register, you did a tire rotation and things seem to be a little funky. If you’re at that seven- or eight-year mark… You could very well just need sensors, and there’s nothing else wrong with anything. You just don’t have enough battery power to really send the proper signal out for things to re-register and work correctly after doing that rotation because it does know you’ve rotated, believe it or not. It does.
SPEAKER 11 :
And keep that in mind, too, when you’re putting tires on your vehicle. you know, add a five or an eight.
SPEAKER 05 :
Put sensors in it. Yes, just do it at the same time.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s exactly right, Ken. Because, I mean, it’s going to cost you to break the tire down, put the sensors in, stuff like that. So instead of being just the cost of the part, it’s going to be, you know, an additional, you know, 70, 80 bucks or whatever it is.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. So great advice. All right, we’ll take a quick break. We’ll come back. Bob and Thornton, hang tight. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Myself, Ken Rackley, Tune Tech Automotive. Bob, go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hey, this is an answer to your previous caller. I think it was the previous caller about the tire pressure sensors and stuff like that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, TPMS.
SPEAKER 03 :
So just recently I bought an absolutely pristine… 2019 Cadillac XT5, and I don’t know who took care of this, but they took it to John Elway Cadillac for everything. So I bought this thing used. I stole this car. But anyway, since it was coming up on about 3,000 miles for the 100,000-mile maintenance routine, I did everything, every fluid change. bumper-to-bumper, I mean everything, axles, transaxle, coolant, oil, transmission fluid just to get a baseline, belts, hoses, everything. Well, one of the TPMSs wasn’t registering, so I thought, well, our six-years-old with 98K on it, I’m not going to replace one. I replaced all four. Well, I bought them off Amazon, okay? One TPMS was $26, but four were $40, so I bought all four. And now I don’t trust what they’re registering. They’re all registering a little bit weird, so I took it over to Discount Tire, and they’re always absolutely right on with their pressure. And I said, since it’s summer… It called for 36 PSI. I said, since it’s summer and it’s hot, put 38 in because when it gets cool, it’ll drop down to 34. So they put 38 all the way around. And now my dash is recording 34 PSI all the way around. And it’s got a little red indicator on there. And it’s so small, I can’t read it. So anyway… I think this will answer your previous caller’s thing. Don’t replace one. Replace all four. But don’t buy them from Amazon.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, buy, I was just going to say, buy. That is one of those areas where buy the higher quality sensors. Buy what they would consider to be an OEM replacement quality sensor. You’re a great point, Bob. In fact, I was going to mention that. I didn’t know that you were going to say this. I was going to mention that same thing. There is a huge difference in the quality of those things from Amazon. And by the way, this is true for a lot of you listening, where you may be doing some self-diagnosis, and I’m going to put this sensor on. Well, be careful where you buy said sensor because it may be the cheapest, but it may actually not read correctly and do what it’s supposed to. It may not fix the problem. So great point, Bob.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, now I know when my dashboard says 34 PSI, it’s actually 38.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, add four.
SPEAKER 03 :
But I don’t know what the – maybe it’s because I’m old and my eyesight is bad. There’s a little red indicator in that dashboard indicator, and I don’t know what that is, but now that I know that I’ve gone to discount and they put 38 all the way around, that’s fine with me.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, well, and with that, unfortunately, you’re going to have to, in the wintertime, you’re going to have to run a higher pressure, actually, in the tire to keep the light off. Correct, correct.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, let’s do this. Jeff, you’ve got a new car question. I want to have plenty of time for you. We’ve got a review coming up right now, which we’re going to roll through, and I want to answer that. So, Jeff, hang tight. Listen in to this car review we’ve got coming up. We’ll come back. I’ll answer your question on that here in a moment. Don’t go anywhere. Drive Radio KLZ 560. All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. That time of the week where we slip our car reviews in. I shouldn’t say slip in. We do these on purpose. We enjoy driving all the cars that we get. We appreciate all the manufacturers that allow us to do so. It helps our listeners out immensely when we have the ability to give firsthand knowledge of how certain vehicles work, perform, and so on. And to say all of that, Richard, we’re also very honest when it comes to Now, you and I, we’re vehicle advocates. Sometimes vehicles get bad wraps. It’s not necessarily a vehicle’s fault. It’s because the vehicle wasn’t bought for the proper purpose in the first place. So we’re very careful in looking at a vehicle for what it is. And we don’t often give bad reviews, per se, like you see a lot of folks doing. We just give honest reviews as to what’s the good, bad, and the ugly of any particular vehicle. So this week, we’ve got a 2025 Polestar. That is, by the way, Volvo’s… ev division for all of you that don’t know that when you see a pole star that’s actually a volvo but it’s a pole star it’s its own entity it does not run inside of a volvo dealership for example we drove the three uh the number three dual motor pilot plus performance fully loaded this vehicle specs out at above 90 grand richard which i’m going to start there I like this car. It had superb performance. It’s quiet inside. I’ve got a few complaints with it, but first complaint, I’ll just say straight up, it is pricey. In fact, I think it’s pricier than it ought to be for what you’re actually getting. Again, I don’t normally say a lot of negative things, but in this particular case, it’s overpriced.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and you and I have talked about this in this segment. I think that’s the case with some of these manufacturers. They’re sort of pricing these vehicles. In some cases, it makes sense for a luxury performance vehicle, and maybe that’s the category that they’re going for here. A little bit unclear for you and I. However, not something that would necessarily sway us one way or another, but it’s definitely something that we’re going to point out, Dad, right? When you compare similarly sized vehicles, this is – by far more expensive, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it is. And again, for some people, they might think, well, you know what, that’s right in line with some of the other high-end EVs. And I will go as far as to say this. If I were to compare this Polestar with a Tesla, for example, you know, Tesla Model 3, which they’re not even the same car, so that’s a hard comparison. But I will say that this Polestar… as far as fit finish quiet on the inside and so on is better than a tesla for you know let’s say but i just feel like what you end up getting in the car the size of it and so on now its performance is fabulous i’m going to say that straight up and i’m not sure exactly i guess they’re looking to go into the high-end luxury ev market and if that’s who they’re trying to market to then that 90k price tag is probably fine richard but i just feel like for what it is it’s overpriced now As far as how it drove, its functionality, how quiet it was on the inside, again, as I said, the overall performance, power, all of that, flat out, can’t be beat. I’ll just say it straight up. The car worked phenomenally well as far as all that’s concerned. Where I had a disappointment in this car, and I’m technically savvy, so are you. We both don’t struggle. We drive enough cars and do enough things even outside of… What happens with cars and technology, we play around kind of as a hobby, a lot of technology things, Richard. We test drive all sorts of things along those lines. And the reality is it’s not that I’m technology. I don’t struggle with that. I’m not technology challenge is what I should say. So with all that being said, though. This had to be. This is my biggest complaint on this car. This had to be one of the most technically challenging vehicles to drive with all of the stuff they have going on. Making certain things work is like an act of God to get to the right screen to make it happen. And it’s too cumbersome for the average driver, if you ask me.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and you and I have talked about this as well, and I think that a lot of these car companies can do some really creative and really cool things with the tech side of things, just because the electric motors open so much more. It’s a simpler design, right, Dad? You kind of turn it on, there’s a lot less moving parts, those sorts of things, and I think that they can do some really cool stuff with the tech side of it. But I think in some cases, and I’ve driven Polestars before, there is definitely a large learning curve That takes place. Don’t get me wrong, there’s some cool features, right? You know, instead of a car key, you had a card, right? You know, that you were able to use. But that also took some getting used to, which again, we’re not going to say in Polestar, we’re not going to say that this is a detriment because it may be not. It’s part of the learning curve that… your dealers and that sort of thing sort of have to kind of take the customers through. But it’s also something that we are going to note in a review because I think we think it’s important for you that if you are looking for something that is really straightforward and simple to operate, at least right off the bat or for anyone that gets in the car, this may be something to consider.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, so all that being said, here’s the other thing that’s a little bit different about this particular car. They don’t have, as I said earlier, and this isn’t a knock, this is just the way things are. It’s kind of set up similar to what Tesla has done, meaning you have to go to Polestar to actually buy the car. There’s only one that I know of in all of Colorado, at least in our whole area here, there’s only one. and it’s in Denver, and typically the way it works with Polestar is it’s an appointment-driven sort of a thing where you can get an idea of the car you want, and then you literally order the car online, they’ll deliver it, and it’s done much like Tesla does in regards to how to buy it. This is not the traditional dealership experience, unless I don’t know something along those lines, Richard, unless I said something wrong.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, I think you’re correct, which, again, is not necessarily a knock on the vehicle itself. We’re just informing you of the process. And for some of you that are maybe you want that, right? Maybe you don’t want the sales pitch. Maybe you don’t want all of the craziness that goes into buying a car. Sometimes this may be a vehicle for you, but we just want you to be aware of it. It’s not a traditional car buying experience like you would typically find.
SPEAKER 05 :
Correct. So for those of you listening, if this is something that you’re thinking of doing, this car, by the way, starts in the high 60s, almost 70 grand, the way our car was optioned out and all of that ended up being right around 90,000. The plus side is it does have a really high range as far as how far you can drive. I did enjoy that. And again, it’s zero to 60 time is spot on. It really does run, not run it. It’s got all the power. It’s an EV. It’s instant power. Until you drive one of these, you really can’t even describe, Richard, how that side of it works. But Polestar, you go to Polestar.com. That’d be the best place to go. We normally say go to your dealer, test drive, tell them we sent you. In this case, go to Polestar.com. If you get the ability to tell them how you heard about Polestar, please make sure you tell them that John and Richard Rush, both from Drive Radio and Rush to Reason, sent you.
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SPEAKER 05 :
All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Myself, Ken Rackley. Jeff, go ahead, sir. Hello, sir. How are you?
SPEAKER 08 :
Just airing off my electric lawnmower. Sorry, you don’t wash them with water. You don’t want to do that. You’ve got to air those off.
SPEAKER 11 :
Good point. We’re usually mowing the rain, though.
SPEAKER 08 :
How does that work? There we go.
SPEAKER 11 :
Good one.
SPEAKER 08 :
Uh, so, man, I got a neat project kind of going. We’ll see here. It’s funny. You touched on it last week about how, you know, these companies haven’t had to market their electric vehicles.
SPEAKER 05 :
No.
SPEAKER 08 :
Fairly because they’ve got the government, you know, grease in the rails for them, so it’s like we don’t have to work to sell these.
SPEAKER 05 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, we just… So, my point is that, okay, the Nissan Leaf, I come… My background, right, is… commercial vehicles. I grew up with Mastercraft truck equipment. You know, we made work trucks.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know what I mean? That’s right.
SPEAKER 08 :
It wasn’t very glamorous, you know what I mean? But then I look back now that it’s gone, and I’m like, oof, god, it is. It was actually kind of cool. You know, we really designed trucks for these plumbers, electricians, locksmiths, you know what I mean? And made them mobile, okay? Right. So I’m toying around. I’m washing cars, right? I got a little detail of company here in golden and i so i’m like well but i don’t do mobile i’m not very akin to it i’m just like you know bring it to me yada yada but the guys kind of got to go mobile to really scale it or anything to do well you know i mean you got to kind of because you can go mobile and it can be if you do it right you can make it pretty cheap just a quick spray down so i got this leaf and i can’t help but want to turn into a commercial vehicle already sure you know what i mean It’s almost like you get a conundrum because you’re like, I don’t want to destroy this thing yet, but at the same time, I can really test this sucker. It comes with vehicle-to-load technology, right, guys? So it has the V2L, but there’s no outlet. They didn’t equip it with an inverter. Shame on them, really. So I got a 1500-watt inverter. I want to go to maybe 25,000, 2,000, the Internet is telling you. if i could do 25 we’ll see but i got my 15 so i’m like whatever let’s put the 15 on it i got about a foot two gauge cable you know bang you know what i mean okay now i’m running a shop vac no problem you know run shop vac no problem if i try to kick on my little air compressor you know it kills my inverter okay you know right i kind of expected that i’d be pretty surprised if i could get both of them going sure at the same time so but anyway but the one does let it go and go and go well what you do is you turn the leaf on like it’s on on turn everything off the lights radio and it will right that vehicle load it balances your little 12 volt that’s under the hood you know what i mean your normal so and i let it run for a good you know by 25 minutes i set a 30 minute timer And I ran some stuff, and I ran it and ran it and ran it. Even then I hooked up the air compressor by itself. It will spool it up at first and run the air compressor. And then I even have the little electric Harbor Freight power spray that’s electric too. I got one of them, and he fires it up, and it’ll, no problem. I could spray for days off of this thing. And I was at 60% battery. On the Leaf, I came back, and I think after all that kind of stuff, I didn’t have a 2% drop in the big battery. I was like, oh, wow, okay. She’s plowing along for me. So I just wonder, like, how hard can a guy run on that before you start, you know, throwing codes? I guess we’ll find out. But I may try to build this thing out to be a little. I haven’t done any of the mobile jobs yet, but I don’t know. I’m about ready to launch it, and we’ll see. I’m doing a Groupon. And so we may, you know what I mean, I might get a little busier. I’ve got a couple guys that are helpers, and so we’ll see what can happen. If I can shoot around town and do these. But I don’t know. You could advertise it completely green, right? You know what I mean? No, we’re not, you know, yeah. Even though you could use your power probably at your house and everything.
SPEAKER 05 :
And really quick, how did you wire it in, Jeff? How did you put the inverter in? What did you do?
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s just on the hood under those. The leaf, it’s got a big plastic cover. you know, cover that covers everything. It looks just like a standard motor a little bit, just a little more square, you know what I mean? And then it was a nice flat spot. You could pop rivet the, you know, I could pop rivet it right on and mount it right on that plastic. And then you just run, you know, about two foot long, like I said, two gauge, you know, braided wire or whatever, you know, boom over. And they ran and I felt it and they didn’t even, it’s so funny, you can feel energy at that point, right? You can feel that shit going through the wire when you hold it and And it was getting warm, but not at all very safe. Like that set up with a 1500 and only using one thing at a time, I bet you could do that for a long, long time. I’d like to up it because it’s kind of nice if you run with two guys. One guy can do a little air, and that little air compressor does have to kick on while you’re vacuuming, which would be real nice. I don’t know if I could do that with 2000.
SPEAKER 05 :
Which one do you have, the 40 or the 62 kilowatt hour leaf?
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s the shittier, the badder one. The smaller battery.
SPEAKER 05 :
So the 40 will run a kilowatt an hour at 32 hours, and 1,500, 1.5, I should say, for 21 hours, according to AI. Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
So a long time.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Yeah, that’s very little, 1,500.
SPEAKER 05 :
You’d run for a long time.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
And there’s a whole, you know, and just as an alternative too, Jeff, just for grins, there is literally in AI, ChadGBT, you can literally get the entire build out as to which inverter even they recommend to use to do what you’re doing. I mean, you’re probably already on the right track, but it’ll tell you specifically point by point how to do that, where to exactly wire that in, and so on, since it doesn’t come with it.
SPEAKER 08 :
I already had the conversation with the car last week. It was amazing. I’m sitting there texting Jim and I this whole conversation, and the car was reading it back to me, and he did all the calculations. They were saying I could run my equipment for probably, because that little battery is so small, maybe 20 or 30 minutes, you know what I mean? But that’s about all I would need. But then it’s possible that that little battery would be dead. uh, he’d like the idea of keeping a deep cell with you, you know what I mean? Uh, and running it off that probably, you know, like more of a motor home battery.
SPEAKER 05 :
Wouldn’t hurt for what you’re trying to do. Probably wouldn’t hurt. Yeah. The life of the battery would be better to do it that way.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Longevity. I’m sorry to say that, but the longevity of the battery would be better. Let me say it that way.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, no, I get it. But, uh, I wonder, well, we’ll see. I kind of will see. Maybe I’ll try to just go there.
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, all you’re doing is what a lot of the other vehicles that already come equipped with that. So like the F-150 Lightning, the Silverado EVs and so on. There’s a lot of those that are already coming with what you’re talking about. In fact, a lot of the vehicles even now on the GM side have the ability to reverse plug in and run that right back into a power cell or other things in your home. And you could run your home several days just off your car.
SPEAKER 08 :
yeah no pressure well think about this thing if I did if you ever had a you know a little you know, lengthy blackout or whatever, you know, yeah, I could easily, if I knew the leaf was full, I can go out and I could plug my fridge into my leaf.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
My leaf would run in my fridge for a week probably.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and back to your whole marketing thing, and it’s one thing I’ve talked about over and over again, if they would let the free market do this thing right on the front side with the EV end of things instead of relying on government to do all the things that they did and force-feeding this, you’d be, I think, Jeff, A, I think EVs would be further along today than what they are. People would understand some of the benefits of what you’re even talking about right now and some of the things that they can provide. I think you would have seen some of that happen naturally. But as I’ve always said, and I talk about it daily, when you force feed something, you screw it all up.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
When you tell somebody you have to do something or when you tell someone you can’t do something, you get the opposite result.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
For sure. I’ll tell you another thing that’s very interesting with this Leaf. So I raced the front-wheel drive class in the dirt oval. Well, this thing would, I cannot wait to put a roll cage in it. Oh, yeah. I would eat him up. Perfect. It had 234 torque. Yeah. 234 torque. You have to work real hard to get to that number. That’s right. You know what I mean? And this thing’s already ready to go. So it would be like the government wants to do something. They should buy a couple hundred of these and give them to high schools and tell them to make race cars out of them.
SPEAKER 05 :
There are so many things that you – thank you for saying some of this, by the way, because that’s been my point all along. If you would have let free market do its thing and people would have understood some of the advantages that EVs have, and yes, there are. I know our side wants to poo-poo a lot of it just because of it being force-fed, and I don’t blame them for that. Anytime something is force-fed, nobody likes it. And on top of that, it was force-fed, and the taxpayers had to help pay for it. So that’s never a good combination. Had these things just come to market the way they should have, like the iPhone did back in the day, you’d have a totally different marketplace today with them.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 05 :
A hundred percent. Yep. I have said that all along and I will keep saying it because, as you know, I’ve owned one since 2020. There is a place for them. Most people don’t want to admit that or realize it because they’ve been force fed and they’re just anti they’re anti Evie no matter what. And you’re not going to convince them otherwise. Now, that’s part of the problem. And it’s sort of like think of it this way. It’s like back in the day, diesels got ruined in America for the longest time. They’re better today, and they finally have come around, but it’s taken 40 years for this to actually happen because the original converted Oldsmobile gas engines that were diesels back in the day, General Motors screwed up, literally screwed up the entire diesel market with those particular cars, with one engine. With one engine, they did more damage to the diesel market than probably anything else you could have ever done because it was such a bad… product and i want to say it was forced on people jeff but it was just such a bad product nobody wanted a diesel vehicle after that they ruined it same thing has sort of happened on the ev thing with it being pushed on people no different yeah that’s interesting at gm’s never been i love gm we’ve always raced them and i still do today but it’s uh
SPEAKER 08 :
And that’s the business of them. It does. It’s shade. I really, a lot of times, wish they never got the money from Obama. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. No, I do, too. I agree with you. You’re 100% correct. Absolutely. Totally agree.
SPEAKER 08 :
I would have buried that bow tie a long time ago. You know, it sucks, but it’s true.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep. You’re right. You’re right. Jeff, as always, appreciate you, man. Have a good rest of your day. Yeah, there’s a place for them, as I’ve always said, in the marketing thing. It’ll be interesting to see moving forward on the EV thing, the credits, the federal credits end at the end of September. So roughly about a month longer is all. And after that, they are gone, at least with this administration. It’ll be interesting to see what the manufacturers do to actually market those vehicles and see how that actually turns out. But we’ll be back. Got lines open. Any questions for us, let us know. 303-477-5600. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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And we are back, Drive Radio, KLZ 560, and lots of conversations today. We’ve kind of been all over the map today, but any questions you have for us, again, we’ve got a little bit over an hour left of today’s program. We will not be here next Saturday, so if you’re wanting a question answered or something that you need some help with or a project you may be working on next weekend, I highly encourage you to call us today. Again, we’ve got about an hour left of today’s program. We’ll get that answered for you so you can get that done. Now, next weekend, you’re always welcome to text us a question, although I will tell you next weekend we’re all going to be off doing other things and so on. It might be a little bit slower getting back to you than what we would normally be. So once again, if you’ve got something you’re going to try to do, a project, anything along those lines next weekend, I would highly encourage I advise you to call today. We’ll get that answered as quickly as we can for you. Myself and Ken, we’re happy to do that for you. Next weekend might be a little bit more dicey in getting your questions answered than today. Just saying. I’ll do my very best, but I’m not going to be on my phone. Not going to be glued to your phone? Not going to be glued to my phone. No, it’s going to be a weekend off, and no, I’m not going to be as glued to it as I probably am. normally would be so just just a side note again question of the day today is you know ugliest cars and i did have some of you actually give me the opposite and give me some good looking cars which that’s always okay but that’s right there has been over the years a lot i’m sorry to say but there has been a lot of ugly cars and as we were talking earlier ken and i were At times you just wonder why, what were they thinking when they made these vehicles? I don’t have that answer for everybody, by the way. I don’t know.
SPEAKER 11 :
When I even think, you know, even if you look back at the, what is the 53 Corvette? I, you know, maybe for the time it was good looking, but to me it’s not good looking. you know, the original.
SPEAKER 05 :
The original one wasn’t probably their best of all. I mean, they’re worth a boatload of money. Well, right.
SPEAKER 11 :
But it just wasn’t good looking, you know, to me. But that’s just a little bit more modern.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, that wasn’t one of my favorite. I would agree with you on that one. That wasn’t one of my more favorite.
SPEAKER 11 :
Once they were out for two or three years, I think they just, you know, they’re less rounded and less pointy in the back.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, they got more streamlined, I guess. I mean, I think in the those years they were still trying to work off of kind of that rounded sure you know yeah 40s early yeah late 40s early 50s yeah exactly they were trying to still keep some of that roundedness to it and yet the styles were now starting to go to a more um do i say angled blockish look maybe versus that rounded look is that a better way to say that probably yeah things started to change along those lines and again corvettes did as well and they of course changed as time went by and again and a A lot of cars do. Point being, why do some of these vehicles go through some of the changes? Why do they end up looking like they do sometimes? Honestly, that comes down to engineers and so on. So there’s Article Charlie. That’s where a lot of this came from. I’ve got 14. And, of course, we talked about the Aztec. That’s number one on this list because it was, in fact, one of and still is. Sorry if you own one. I’m sorry. You mean they weren’t bad cars, but they were sure ugly. They just weren’t good-looking cars. Now, the next one on here. This one’s interesting because I can’t disagree, but you don’t see many of these. The Buick Skylark 6th generation. So those were made, I want to say that would have been clear up into the 90s. So the 6th generation had to be in the 90s. 92 is when they started.
SPEAKER 11 :
Like almost a century looking thing.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and they were not great-looking cars. They were not good-looking cars. They could have done a better job.
SPEAKER 11 :
The Chevy Corsica, I think, is the same style.
SPEAKER 05 :
It was a combo of cars.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Is that a good way to say it?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, they kind of threw a bunch of stuff together.
SPEAKER 05 :
Let’s take a little of this, a little of that.
SPEAKER 11 :
It had a real flat body. Trunk. Yeah, it just wasn’t super attractive for sure.
SPEAKER 05 :
Now this one’s interesting because this is a car some people love or some people hate. The Nissan Juke. It looks like a front end of a bug. Some love it, some hate it. The bubbly headlights I do not care for.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 05 :
They come up out of the fenders. Yeah, right, exactly. Looks like a bug. Yeah, uh-huh. And again, that’s a car where some hated it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, not a bad car. Just some of the traits of how they look is, yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Correct. A few others that are on here, of course, and I’m going to say this name wrong. I don’t know if I’ve ever said it right. Citroen, the British cars, they were just ugly. They never were. Blocky. They never were good looking. And I would go as far as say this too. Oh, the Gremlin’s on this list. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. I mean, if you look at the— Pacer, Gremlin. Yeah, if you look at the Gremlin, I mean, and look at modern styles, that was probably one of the first modern SUVs, and not even an SUV because it was a two-door, right? Yeah, the Gremlin was a two-door.
SPEAKER 05 :
It was.
SPEAKER 11 :
Maybe they had a four-door, too. I don’t think they ever did. Maybe not.
SPEAKER 05 :
I don’t remember a four-door.
SPEAKER 11 :
I know they had a six-cylinder and an eight-cylinder available. Well, the Xs had four-oh-ones. Oh, really? Yeah, the Xs, they were actually pretty hot cars. Okay, yeah. And, yeah, I mean, but you look at the style, other than the front end being a lot longer than today’s, I mean, that’s kind of, they look a lot SUV-ish today, modern SUV-ish.
SPEAKER 05 :
The last vehicle on this list, of course, is the Cybertruck, which that’s another one people have a love-hate relationship with. Some people either love the vehicle, some people hate it. I personally, I just don’t know what you could do to that truck. I mean, you see a lot of them where they’re wrapped and people have done different things. They’ve tried to improve the appearance and so on. And I will just tell you that it’s like lipstick on a pig. I just don’t know what you do to make it look any better at the end of the day. It’s not a good-looking vehicle.
SPEAKER 11 :
I, you know, I, I kind of feel that same way. I mean, it’s, but it’s one of those things that’s, it’s nothing that anybody else has. I mean, you see every one of them that’s on the road, you know, so one coming at you, one.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, if you were going to market your business and had the ability to buy one, wrap it and put your name on it.
SPEAKER 11 :
And it’s got every flat panel to do that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly. If you, if you really want something eye catching where people are going to look at your business. Yeah. Now that’s a whole different ball game at that point. Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
One, you know, and the cool technology that it has in it and stuff like that. They are cool.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. And they are fast. Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
No doubt about it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, they are. And again, so that’s our question of the day. Those of you listening, you know, what is your most hated or, you know, the car that you think is the ugliest? You know, that’s the question of the day. And a lot of you have been texting these in, which you can do. 307-200-8222. 307-200-8222. Citroen was French. French. Yeah, well, either way, I can’t make cars.
SPEAKER 11 :
It goes along with the Renault.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. The cars. Yeah, not a great car. Somebody else did say the Nissan Juke. I just had that listed, but somebody else already texted that in. Subaru S’s are notorious for not looking good. or for looking like the cheap, or sorry, what am I saying? Subaru S are notorious for not liking the cheaper Amazon O2 sensors. Oh, I see what you’re saying. Okay, so that particular vehicle doesn’t like the cheap O2 sensors. You know, I don’t know too many vehicles that do. That’s another, the whole parts conversation Ken and I could get into because that’s something where you really need to be selective, especially on certain items you’re buying for your car.
SPEAKER 11 :
If you’re ordering computer parts for your vehicle on Amazon because of the price, you need to not do that. You’re going to be sorry. Yes, because you will either do it more than once or many times until you actually spend the money to get the correct operating part in there. So you’ll spend more time and money trying to save money that you won’t. Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 11 :
Because we get cars in all the time that, you know, they put in oxygen sensors, they put in the mass airflow. We just did one last week, a mass airflow on a. I think it was a, I can’t remember the car, but yeah. Oh, I got it off Amazon. Okay. Do you want it back to send it back? And he’s like, no, I can’t do that. I’m like, okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
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