In this gripping episode of the Mike Gallagher Show, we dive headlong into America’s escalating culture clash and the dangerous normalization of political violence. With revelations that a staggering 56% of left-leaning individuals justify political assassinations, the show analyzes how such views have seeped into the public consciousness. Leveraging insights from high-profile guests like Pam Bondi, we explore the intricacies of free speech, hate speech, and the fine line between them.
From the wild world of D.C. politics to America’s culture clash, brace yourself for the reality check you’ve been waiting for. The one and only Mike Gallagher Show.
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Dash Patel and Pam Bondi are two of the most popular Trump administration officials. Both of them now are in the hot seat after the assassination attempt. Do you know there’s been research that says 56% of people who identify as left of center believe political assassination is justifiable? Can you let that sink in for a moment? 56% of people on the left believe that assassinating your political adversaries is justified. This is not a small number anymore. What we’ve witnessed is an extraordinary explosion of the justification of killing political opponents. We need God in a desperate way right now. This country is in desperate need of a revival. Mike Lindell has been talking about this for years. And Mike has said it over and over again. We ought to get MyPillow’s Mike Lindell back on the show just to talk about the need for an American revival. I played those kids yesterday at a church. These joyful, happy kids holding their Bibles and talking about the joy of redemption and the value of eternal life. We’ve got 56% of people. It’s stunning to me. There has been a gradual acceptance of what happened to Charlie Kirk. And I remember screaming loudly about the murder of Brian Thompson. He too was gunned down. In his case, for what he did for a living. He happened to be the CEO of of an insurance company. And a lot of people in America think that’s absolutely A-OK. Luigi is a hero. He’s a martyr. He’s a great guy. He’s representing people that have been, you know, given the shaft by the greedy insurance companies. So gun him down. Man’s walking in front of the Sheraton Hotel on 6th Avenue in New York one morning. Go stalk him. Put a mask on. Hide behind a vehicle. Jump out behind him. And pump him full of bullets. Way to go, Luigi. Let’s donate to your legal defense fund. We are broken. We are broken. This country is in trouble right now. Now, we can do two things at once. We can certainly have conversations about important issues like speech. I mean, the New York Times headline just cracks me up. Silencing Charlie Kirk’s critics. Oh, no. We can’t have that. Right, New York Times? Critics. Celebrating somebody’s assassination isn’t a criticism. You can criticize Charlie Kirk’s beliefs all day long. joyfully celebrating his assassination is not criticism. Silencing Kirk’s critics. I can’t believe what I’m reading. Oh, you know what those MAGA people are doing? They’re getting people fired for just criticizing Charlie Kirk. No, people are getting fired because like ghouls, like demons, like actual real world devils, they’re happy. Joyful that a 31-year-old husband and father was assassinated in front of thousands of horrified people. I don’t even know. But we’ve got to begin with Pam Bondi, and I’m going to do that because I don’t want to ever stifle what you’re… I got tons of emails about this. Here it was yesterday. This is Pam Bondi on the Katie Miller podcast.
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There’s free speech and then there’s hate speech. And there is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie in our society.
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Do you see more law enforcement going after these groups who are using hate speech and putting cuffs on people so we show them that some action is better than no action?
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We will absolutely target you, go after you, if you are targeting anyone with hate speech, anything. And that’s across the aisle.
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Uh-oh. All right, 800-655-MIKE. Reactions have ranged from Eric Erickson out of Atlanta calling her a moron. Mary Catherine Hamm, somebody I respect. No, no, no, that’s not correct. A lot of people… on our side, are saying that is absolutely the wrong thing to say. My buddy Mark Davis gives Pam Bondi some grace by saying she’s just not a very good communicator. I don’t know if we could just chalk it up to poor communication. But let me lean into the smartest audience in the world. That’s you, 800-655-MIKE. Let me lean into your calls. I want you to flood the zone with your reaction to what Pam Bondi just said. We are going to target people who commit what she called hate speech in the aftermath of the gleeful celebrations… of Charlie Kirk’s brutal, brutal murder. PhD weight loss has changed my life, and I’ve got a little secret for you. You know Big Pharma and semaglutide and the shots in the belly. You’ve seen the story recently about the study that shows that a lot of people that are getting this are going blind. You don’t want to do this. You want a program to lose weight that’s centered around science and nutrition, a proven roadmap that has helped over 8,000 clients lose weight and keep it off, like me. I lost 53 pounds a few years ago, and I’ve kept it off. I know what to eat and when. I know how to quiet any of the cravings I might get and finally release that unhealthy belly fat that I carried along for so long. Make the phone call that can change your life in the way it changed mine. It’s called PhD Weight Loss. PhD Weight Loss, Dr. Ashley Lucas’ program is brilliant. And how do I know? Well, 53 pounds later, here I am. 864-644-1900 is their number. Call and schedule your consultation. You can do this program from anywhere in America. Call 864-644-1900, 864-644-1900, or visit MyPhDWeightLoss.com.
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there’s free speech and then there’s hate speech and there is no place especially now especially after what happened to charlie in our society do you see more law enforcement going after these groups who are using hate speech and putting cuffs on people so we show them that some action is better than no action
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We will absolutely target you, go after you, if you are targeting anyone with hate speech, anything. And that’s across the aisle.
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Yikes. Okay. I’ll get the ball rolling because I believe that’s the wrong approach. Here’s the headline. Not that I care about the mainstream media, but the Axios take away. Republicans embrace speech limits. Daily Beast. Republicans embracing hate speech, shut down speech they don’t like. Look, I don’t like, I loathe the way so many people have glorified and celebrated Charlie’s assassination. I don’t think anybody needs to be locked up for it. And more importantly, I don’t think Charlie would want anybody locked up for that. I don’t believe that Charlie Kirk himself would favor or agree with Pam Bondi. It’s the wrong approach. Got a great picture on the MyPillow text line. Thank you for sending this, Delaware. I love this. Mike, my husband and I are huge fans of Charlie’s. We’re heartsick over his murder. Here we are proudly wearing our We Are Charlie t-shirts. Also, big fans of your show. We watch it on Salem News Channel every day. Thanks so much, Marty and Tammy from Greenwood, Delaware. And you look great. Marty and Tammy, I love it. They both got their I Am Charlie T-shirts on. I was going to wear – I have a Charlie Kirk T-shirt that I got from a Charlie Kirk event. I almost wore it the other day at the event we had in South Carolina. But then I thought, ah, it’s maybe a little bit too much of inserting myself into the whole Charlie Kirk story. I don’t know. It just felt – it didn’t – it felt a little – I don’t know. It was like an event with a bunch of listeners in South Carolina. But maybe we ought to start all wearing our I Am Charlie shirts or anything that can honor Turning Point, where thousands and thousands of requests have been coming in to start chapters, Turning Point chapters, high school and college chapters. But let’s dive in here. I want to get your reaction to it. 800-655-MIKE. Do you think Pam Bondi is wrong? for saying we’re going to target people who are guilty of hate speech. We’ll start in Montgomery, Alabama, where Ed is holding. Ed, how are you?
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Thank you, sir. Thank you. Good morning to you. I’m surprised that I don’t agree with you. I respectfully don’t. I’m surprised. Well, we’re not only hate families.
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Family members don’t always agree with each other. That’s all right. That’s all right.
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Tell me why you disagree.
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You want people locked up for some of the terrible things they’ve been saying? You want them to go to jail?
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Well, if it’s within the limits of the law, yes. Yes, it is. I feel like we’re in a war. And I just really have a question, sir. What did we do? I’m old enough to remember the 60s, Kennedy and Bobby, JFK. But I wasn’t intellectual. I was still playing Hot Wheels. I was still playing with my Tonka toys. I wasn’t connected to it. But I just want to know the question, what did we do then? How did we turn it around then when there was so much communistic influences, 50s, and that movement out of colleges, it all came out of colleges.
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What did we do then? How did we turn it around? I’m a little bit confused. I don’t think we were going around jailing people. If there were any people who were celebrating Reverend Martin Luther King’s assassination, and I don’t know that there were, if there were people celebrating Bobby Kennedy’s murder, and I don’t think there were, I don’t think we locked anybody up. I want you to hear yourself, and I love you. I do.
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I know people stood around the TV and danced when Kennedy was assassinated.
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Okay, you want them to go to jail? Did any of those people get locked up? I’m asking, what did we do about it? What did we do about the situation then? Well, we didn’t lock people up, Ed. We didn’t put people in prison. Well, that’s not an answer. Well, that is the direct answer. You’re not answering me. I’m asking you, you want people locked up for celebrating Charlie’s murder? Sure, sure. Again, I’ve already said it. Affirm it. Second time, sure. Oh, no, you didn’t affirm it. Within the limits of Right. You didn’t affirm it. You qualified it by saying within the limits of the law and the limits of the law include the Supreme Court defending free speech as awful as it is. I mean, we got it. I think Charlie would say you got to defend reprehensible speech or we’re going to we are going to live in a dictatorship. Look, I know we’re all upset, Ed, about Charlie’s murder. We’re all grieving, and I think we’re not thinking clearly. And with all due respect, I say this with love, and I appreciate you listening to the show. I don’t think you’re thinking this through. I just don’t.
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I’m just looking from the 20,000 position and saying, than Jabba the Bar Hut head, and certainly the AGs before him in the Obama nation.
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I got it, I got it, I got it. All right, thank you, Ed. Look, I understand what he’s trying to say, and if you’re inciting some… Look, if you call somebody Hitler enough times, and somebody tries to take out Hitler, I’ve asked that on my show many, many times. Long-time listeners know I’ve said that. But let’s face it here. Let’s be clear. The Attorney General of the United States believes that it’s time to enact hate speech legislation, apparently, in the name of Charlie. But that’s – look, the media is flipping out over the way – sophisticated online sleuths are identifying teachers and doctors and mental health professionals and people of authority, professors, who are saying these reprehensible things, and they’re getting them fired. Or at least they’re shaming them publicly. But that’s not the government stepping in and targeting people who are saying that. That’s the… the free-flowing exchange of people who have a laptop, for people who have a phone, for people who have eyes to see, and they’re saying, look at that guy. He’s a teacher, and he’s showing the video of Charlie’s assassination to his 10-year-old students. Now, should he be arrested for that? Or should he be fired? I believe, in the spirit of my friend and colleague Charlie Kirk, that we better be real careful about enacting hate speech legislation. And this has always been an objection that we’ve had for a long time. Democrats are the ones that come up with, they’re the ones that want to lock people up. Now, maybe people are of the position that it’s time to let turnabout be fair play. Now it’s time for them to to kind of be on the receiving end of this. 800-655-MIKE. And Ed, it’s a complicated issue there in Montgomery, Alabama. I get it. You say you’re in the Deep South. You know my affinity for the South. Your geographical location doesn’t diminish or boost your position. I just think it’s the wrong approach. And I don’t think Charlie would have wanted that. Every single day, it’s a joy to remind you that portions of our show are sponsored by MyPillow. As you know, our friend Mike Lindell, big legal victory last week. He’s been in a ton of hot water, as you know, because he believes in election integrity. Of course, due to his friendship with President Trump. Well, last week, there was a $5 million vote. judgment against Mike that was overturned by the courts. Good news for MyPillow. So you keep praying for MyPillow, and you keep supporting this great American company. The premium MyPillow, limited time, great price, $18.98. If you go to MyPillow.com, this pillow is a godsend. Look, I bring the MyPillow products with me when I’m on the road. Here at the hotel in Washington State, I’ve got the MySlippers with me. Those unbelievable slippers because I pat around in the hotel room. I don’t know what’s on that rug. I bring the MyPillow with me. I roll it up into the suitcase. I’ve even got my MyPillow loungewear. Tons of great products. If you haven’t been to the site in a while, go check it out. Go to MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher specials. Click on that box. And with anything you order, enter the promo code MikeG. You’re going to save big. The slippers, the doggy beds, and the Giza dream sheets. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. Or call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034. Like we love to sing.
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From the wild world of D.C. politics to America’s culture clash, brace yourself for the reality check you’ve been waiting for. The one and only Mike Gallagher Show.
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I hate it when I come into work and it just feels like there’s nothing but bad news. And there does feel like nothing but bad news right now. Moments ago, a New York judge tossed the district attorney’s terrorism charges against the accused UnitedHealthcare CEO assassin, Luigi Mangione. The suspected killer appeared in court. Today, he faces a slew of state and federal charges. The judge tossed out the first-degree murder associated with terrorism charge. They kept the second-degree murder charges in place. Now, he’s also facing federal charges, but the judge… The NYPD’s Counterterrorism Intelligence Bureau is warning businesses, political groups, and public figures that the risk of more assassinations remains elevated. The assessment, according to ABC News, reads, “…these individuals, public figures, political figures, and business owners…” likely remain vulnerable at open-air speaking engagements and public events which have been targeted by malicious actors seeking to advance political or ideological agendas and or draw attention to unique personal grievances through violence. Look, some of them are willing to say it out loud. There’s some left-wing streamer named Destiny who, who was on somebody’s podcast yesterday, we saw this on X last night, and said that assassinating prominent people like Charlie Kirk and Brian Thompson, well, there’s a reason for it.
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You need conservatives to be afraid of getting killed when they go to events so that they look to their leadership to turn down the temperature. The issue is right now, they don’t feel like there’s any fear. Like, I don’t know. I don’t know. It’s like memes. It’s just means to everybody, I guess. I don’t know, bro. I don’t know. I don’t care. I’m playing beer games.
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How about that? Got to make conservatives afraid to appear in public. So that we’ll tamp down the rhetoric. What he’s saying, of course, is we’ve got to silence their points. Charlie Kirk’s ideas need to be silenced. And they silenced Charlie Kirk. They killed him because of his words, which I guess makes that left-wing streamer Happy. There’s some breaking news out of South Carolina. Clemson has been, you know, I was there over the weekend and just got back last night in dramatic fashion. Runway incursion at the St. Pete Airport. Ever heard of a runway incursion? That was a first. All the flying I’ve done. Oh, boy. Never seen, never been on a plane that starts to land and then rooms up again because there was another plane on the runway. Okay. Anyway, got back from South Carolina. Big drama and debate at Clemson University because there’s a trio of employees there. I think one professor and I think two other employees, if I’m not mistaken, who were cheering Charlie Kirk’s murder. And apparently they’ve all been fired. I’m getting a lot of text messages coming in, some breaking news. There was one professor, I think, fired yesterday, and now Clemson finally fired the other two who praised the murder of Charlie Kirk. You know what? Clemson gets to do that. Businesses get to do that. Nobody’s calling for, I don’t think, the arrest of somebody who cheers Charlie Kirk’s assassination. Pam Bondi seems to suggest we should do that, and I’m not sure that Pam Bondi’s point yesterday was the best articulated response we should have. This has gotten a lot of attention. Everybody seems to want to talk about it. She’s being widely criticized. Eric Erickson out of Atlanta called her a moron. Charles C.W. Cook, National Review. denouncing her position. Here’s what she said that has everybody fired up.
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There’s free speech and then there’s hate speech. And there is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie in our society.
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Do you see more law enforcement going after these groups who are using hate speech and putting cuffs on people so we show them that some action is better than no action?
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We will absolutely target you, go after you, if you are targeting anyone with hate speech, anything. And that’s across the aisle.
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I was wondering, after I heard that, what Charlie would think of Pam Bondi’s assertion that we will target you, go after you, if you’re targeting anyone with hate speech. Charles, well, we know what Charlie thinks. would think of it. Charlie addressed it prior to his death. Charlie tweeted about it. Real important to hear what Charlie would say about Pam Bondi. There is no doubt in my mind that Charlie himself would object to what Pam Bondi said. Charles C.W. Cook over at National Review writes, actually, no, she won’t. She won’t target or go after anyone for hate speech, quote-unquote, because legally… Charles C.W. Cook writes, The distinction that she made between hate speech and free speech is false, incorrect, imaginary. It does not exist. It is a fiction. Under every relevant Supreme Court precedent, speech is speech is speech. There are categories of speech, libel, incitement, threats, and so on. But speech that is supposedly hateful, including about Charlie Kirk’s murder, is undoubtedly protected by the Constitution. And I believe that Charles C.W. Cook would be backed up by the words of Charlie Kirk himself. On May 2, 2024, Charlie posted on X, and I quote, Hate speech does not exist legally in America. There’s ugly speech. There’s gross speech. There’s evil speech. And all of it is protected by the First Amendment. Keep America free, Charlie wrote. I believe with all of my heart that Charlie would find fault with what Pam Bondi said. Her heart’s in the right place. She means well. She’s hurting. Many in the Trump administration knew Charlie personally and well. All of us who knew him are hurting. All of us need to be careful and choose our words quite carefully. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. We’re in the Relief Factor studios for Breaking News Tuesday. Great to have you here. Tuesday, September the 16th, 2025. Your voice, your call, your perspective. Look, you’re my therapy. Having callers like this, having your voice on this show is what matters to me. And I love hearing from you, so thank you for your texts, for your calls, for your emails. Your voice, your perspective, coming up.
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The mayor there in Charlotte, of course, she said prayers and thoughts go out to the victim. And then she is not villainizing those who struggle with their mental health or those who are unhoused. She couldn’t resist giving a shout-out to the mentally deranged homeless demographic. I’m just going to say the Democrats are going to lose another election if they don’t get it.
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It’s probably too soon to talk about an election, although I suspect Charlie would want us to. But I have to just say that I don’t know that the Democrats… are going to know what’s coming next November. I really believe that. I think normal people see a young man assassinated for his beliefs, and they’re seeing the real tidal wave. These are not a few isolated. Clemson University. Thankfully, Clemson and South Carolina fired the three despicable employees who said positive things about Charlie’s murder. And people are getting silenced, or I’m not silenced, fired left and right. People are losing their job left and right. Now that’s what the New York Times called it, silencing their critics. I saw this headline this morning coming into work. New York Times, silencing Kirk’s critics because people are getting fired for Nurses, mental health counselors, a Secret Service agent, college professors, airline pilots. People who, for some reason, think it’s normal to gloat about Charlie’s assassination. As I’ve been saying all along since this happened, it’s one thing to think it. Bad enough that you would think that that’s a good thing? That somebody whose voice and words you didn’t like got killed? Got a bullet in the throat? Bad enough you’d think that, but then you want to say it out loud? You want to post it on social media so the whole world can see how demonic you are? And that is demonic stuff. That’s about as dark as it gets. You cheer for somebody else’s horrific, brutal murder, you’ve got big, big problems. And I would urge anybody in the former category, not the latter, but people who are thinking you’re glad he was killed, get help. I’m serious. Reach out to somebody. Go to a pastor. Find a therapist. Talk to your loved ones. Say to them, you’re so broken that you actually took some kind of satisfaction or delight in seeing Charlie Kirk bleed out in front of thousands of people. You need help. I mean, I know what you need. In my heart of hearts, you need the Lord. You need God. You need some faith. Silencing Kirk’s critics, says the New York Times. That’s not a critic. Jamie Lee Curtis is a critic. She didn’t agree with him on anything. On anything. I’ve got to play this again because it was so powerful. No one wants to silence her. No one wants to arrest her. I know Pam Bondi is getting a lot of heat for what she said on a podcast. Probably deservedly so. My friend Mark Davis this morning in Dallas said, well, she’s not exactly the best communicator. Maybe she just miscommunicated the message when she talked about hate speech. You know, Pam Bondi knows our world well enough to know better. You start criminalizing speech… That’s a hot button for a lot of Americans. Let me play the Pam Bondi clip real quick. This is from a podcast, the Katie Miller podcast, leading to a lot of people, like Eric Erickson out of Atlanta called her a moron. Charles C.W. Cook over at the National Review said a terrible, terrible, ridiculous thing to say. It’s not been a good 24 hours for Pam Bondi, the attorney general, who said we will absolutely target you if you’re targeting anyone with hate speech. Now, is she talking about threats? Is she talking about threatening to kill somebody? Well, of course, there’s a crime against threats. But here’s what she said and how she said it.
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There’s free speech and then there’s hate speech. And there is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie in our society.
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Do you see more law enforcement going after these groups who are using hate speech and putting cuffs on people so we show them that some action is better than no action?
SPEAKER 03 :
We will absolutely target you, go after you, if you are targeting anyone with hate speech, anything. And that’s across the aisle.
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I was wondering what, it went through my mind, what would Charlie say about her position? Look, Charlie already talked about it. In a post from about a year or so ago on X, Charlie said, there is no hate speech. There’s gross speech. There’s repulsive speech. There’s regrettable speech, but there is no hate speech. There should not be crimes for speech. Keep America free. That’s what Charlie said. Charlie defended the kind of speech that has resulted in, as a result of his murder. Charlie himself condemned speech. Essentially what Pam Bondi said. Now, you may have a different take on that, and that’s fine. I appreciate the debate. I want to talk about it. 800-655-MIGHT. 20 before the hour. 800-655-6453. But back to the New York Times headline, silencing Kirk’s critics. Let me give you one of Charlie Kirk’s critics. Jamie Lee Curtis, the famous actress, on a podcast, the WTF podcast. Trust me, nobody wants to silence her.
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disagreed with him on almost every point i ever heard him say yeah but i believe he was a man of faith and i hope in that moment when he died that he felt connected to his faith even though i find what he his ideas were abhorrent to me yeah I still believe he’s a father and a husband and a man of faith. And I hope whatever connection to God means that he felt it.
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Now, I predict she’ll get slammed for that. And that just shows how broken this country can be. That a woman who disagreed with Charlie’s words and beliefs is grieving with everybody else over his assassination. She exhibited some humanity. She responded like a normal person would respond. For that, she will be vilified. Just awful. Awful.
