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Join John Rush and Andy Pate on ‘Rush to Reason’ for an eclectic mix of conversation and film critique that captures the essence of unpredictability in daily life. From heartfelt memories of conservative icon Charlie Grimes to an unexpected analysis of a football horror flick, the hosts don’t shy away from peeling back layers of reality and entertainment. Discover the underlying themes of ambition, sacrifice, and critical reception in the film industry in a captivating dialogue on what drives individuals in pursuit of greatness.
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It’s finally Friday on Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush. So I tell him I’m a pro jack. And who do you think they give me? The Dolly Lama himself. So we finish 18 and he’s going to sniff me. And I say, hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know. And he says, oh, it won’t be any money. And when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness. So I got that going. And movie reviews with Andy Pate.
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I think that you got the wrong impression about me. I think in all fairness, I should explain to you exactly what it is that I do.
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What I do have are a very particular set of skills. Skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you.
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Chief Lane, what do you want to do tonight?
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The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world. Stick a fork in me, Jerry. I’m done. Now, here is your host of Rush to Reason, John Rush.
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And it is Friday. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes, and hope you all had a fabulous week. I’m glad it’s Friday. So am I. Always a good day.
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It’s been a rough week, hasn’t it?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, you know, you take the aftermath of last week and sort of, you know, dovetail that into this week. And, yeah, actually, Andy, yeah, it’s been – I was talking to – oh, I can’t remember who it was earlier today. And it’s like, you know, it’s just been an extra tiring week for some reason. Has it? I don’t know how else to say it. It’s just been – I don’t know. I guess just because of everything else going on, and even Andy and I before the show were talking, you know, not to be rude to Charlie or anything along those lines, but I’m ready for another story. I mean, I’m ready for the next chapter, and frankly, I think he would say the same thing if he were still here.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, I think so. You know – It’s been so emotional, so painful, and I didn’t really talk about this much last week, and I won’t today. We don’t have time, but Charlie meant so much to me. I happened to watch a lot of his videos. Okay, I was a huge fan. I considered Charlie to be the number one most important conservative voice for the past election, maybe the past two. And so for me, it was absolutely devastating, and also I just loved the man.
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Right.
SPEAKER 11 :
So just the emotion. I think that’s part of why we’re worn out, John. I would agree with you. It wears you out.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, I would agree with you. Okay. Because we’ve got three reviews to do today. Okay. I’m going to slip in question of the day now to give Andy plenty of time to get things done that way. So yesterday’s was what is the first semi-automatic pistol, the Salvatore Dormus, which was invented, by the way, in 1891.
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1891.
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A long time ago, by the way.
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Oh, yeah.
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There are only 50 of those made, meaning if you have one of those today, they’re worth a fortune.
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Here’s a question. How well did it work?
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You know what? That’s a weapon I know nothing about.
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That’s got to be such a step forward at the time, right?
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Oh, yeah. Big time, Andy. Absolutely, Andy. Just saying. Game changer. Game changer. Today’s impossible question. In 2022, 6.64 billion people had a smartphone. How many people have one in 2025? So just three years later. That is the question of the day. Okay. All right, we’ll be right back. We’ll get rolling on movie reviews. Dr. Scott Faulkner coming up next. I say it all the time, but I mean it. If you want a doctor that thinks like we do here on Rush to Reason, look no further than Dr. Scott, 303-663-6990.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate and John. Are you ready for a movie?
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Absolutely.
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All right, John, well, football horror. Okay. Have you ever thought of a football horror movie?
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No, I have not.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, why not in him?
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There are a lot of people saying you could be the next great quarterback. I can already see it now. Cam running down the tunnel with the crowd chanting his name.
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I hear you’ve been invited to train with legend Isaiah White himself. Care to elaborate?
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I want to be the GOAT.
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Cameron Cain. Great meeting you. I’m a fan. That’s crazy. I damn near worshipped you growing up.
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Who are you? I’m him! Who are you? I’m him! Montauk! Let’s play a little catch. We going to the blitz! You want to play at your highest level? You want to be a legend? Let me tell you something.
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This ain’t a game. In this game, violence is rewarded. So learn to enjoy it.
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I have to break my hip.
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Cam, are you okay?
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I think something’s off.
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I don’t know what you’re getting yourself into. Now we play some football. Don’t have to do this. I have to break my hip.
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I’ve never been more certain of anything in my life. And how bad does Cameron Cade want it?
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I’m not just going to give it to you. You’re going to have to take it. What if I say no? Ron, think of it as a gift from the gods.
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Okay, I’m sorry. I didn’t know if you heard that. He said at the end, what are you willing to sacrifice every day? John, what are you willing to sacrifice every day? I mean, we are on the 12th floor. Do you run the steps before you start the show?
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Yeah, no, uh-uh.
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Charlie does.
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Yeah, he does, absolutely.
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Several times.
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Absolutely.
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Well, he’s very dedicated.
SPEAKER 10 :
He is.
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Okay, John, greatness in sports requires more than athletic ability since you’re competing against the greatest athletes in the world. That makes sense, right? I mean, you’re all great athletes. What’s your edge? To be great, you must be fixated and unrelenting. But at what cost? Marlon Wayans, he stars as Isaiah White, an all-time great NFL quarterback who came back from a devastating injury to win multiple Super Bowls. Well, they’re equivalent of Super Bowls in this mythical league that they have.
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Whatever.
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Okay, Tyreek Withers. He plays Cameron Wade, a new hotshot quarterback who idolized Isaiah as a kid. Cameron’s about to go pro as a top pick, but he gets assaulted by a mysterious attacker and sustains a head injury. Well, Cameron is advised to give up football. But after an entire life being driven by his dad to succeed, he can’t let go of the dream, John. And that makes sense. I mean, when you see a kid totally driven by his dad for years and years and years, is he going to let go?
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No.
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No, he isn’t. And of course, Cameron’s soulless agent will do anything to get his meal ticket back on top. Then Cameron receives an invite to Isaiah’s desert. Well, it’s his desert home, but John, it’s more of a compound. Okay. To train with his idol and overcome all odds. Desperate, Cameron accepts. This is basically the five days from hell when Isaiah will drive Cameron to break through all human barriers with fanatical dedication. But is there more going on? What begins as an opportunity quickly descends into shock. As Isaiah uses tactics Cameron never imagined. For instance, Isaiah actually punishes other people when Cameron makes mistakes. Yikes. Right? Because you’re the leader. You’re the quarterback leader of the team. Other people suffer if you make a mistake. It helps that Isaiah has his own little cult. who are willing to be, shall we say, punished. It’s really weird. Julia Fox, she plays Elsie, Isaiah’s wife. Now, she’s more than flirtatious and caught up in Isaiah’s twisted mind games with Cameron. But ultimately, this is about Isaiah and Cameron. To what lengths will Isaiah go? What are Isaiah’s motives? And can Cameron survive to become like him? That’s the story of him. What do you think?
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Weird.
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Very weird.
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Yeah.
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All right, what works in him? Well, first of all, Marlon Wayans, he pours himself into the role. He’s a fine actor. I don’t know how much of his stuff you’ve seen. He seems like one of the Wayans you’ve seen less of.
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Okay.
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But he’s very talented. He pours himself into it and does a good job. Next, for the horror genre, this desert compound is located, well, it’s isolated. Like a cabin in the woods. It’s kind of cool. So they’ve got that going for it. All right, what else works in him? Oh, no. Absolutely nothing. What doesn’t work in him? Wow, this is going to take a while, but I’m going to whip through it. First of all, a movie can’t make us think if it’s too outlandish to be plausible. And this is way too outlandish. And you know me. I can do crazy. I can do kooky. I can do stupid.
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Right.
SPEAKER 11 :
But you better be funny. You better be entertaining. You better have a good pace. You better have a good script. None of the above.
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Okay.
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John, they have absolutely none of it. Him pushes way too hard. It’s exaggerated, preposterous. You know you’re just watching a movie here. This is a horror film blending artsiness and shock. Totally forced. The message is basically you really need killer instinct. Like that’s a message anybody cares about. It goes nowhere. The football scenes, John, they’re bad. They feel staged, phony, and Hollywood. Just stupid. I mean, really stupid. We’re going to talk about this, by the way, in the next review I do on how hard it is to really direct football scenes and make them feel real. and not contrived. Let’s see. There’s no focus at all. I mean, do you get drafted or do you just get signed by teams? It goes back and forth. I don’t know what they’re doing here. They have a combine, right? The draft combine. Yeah. But this film is so cheap. You don’t see any combine. It’s all happening just outside. They were low on money for this. This had no budget. The horror always works best when we care about the good guy. Right? Okay. I mean, I got to care about the good guy or girl and hope that they don’t get killed or that things go well. I don’t care about Cameron. I don’t know anybody who would care about Cameron.
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Not bad, huh?
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He’s an all right kid, but I just don’t care. He’s not a good personality. There’s nothing about him. I don’t like him. I don’t care about him. Cameron was drugged much of the time, so bad writing could look like hallucinations. Ah, okay. Folks, you’re not hallucinating. The writing’s bad. It’s just that awful. It is boring. It’s awful. The writing feels like stoned high schoolers did it. I am serious. Really? Oh, it’s absolutely embarrassing. Yawn. I literally, not kidding, yawned many times. I generally don’t yawn in a movie.
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Is that bad?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and it wasn’t late at night. This was the first of three that I was seeing. This was in the afternoon, and I was yawning.
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s bad.
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Grandpa needed a nap, you know.
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That’s that bad.
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Oh, terrible. Let’s see here. For an explosive sports horror, I’m surprised at how bored I was. That’s what blows my mind. I’m watching all these big, supposedly flashy things happen and horror and terrible things happening. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Shock, shock, shock, shock, shock. No writing. No character development. Nothing. I’m like, what is this? And by the way, the storyline didn’t hold at all. It was all over the map. It was just a mess. Have you ever come out of a movie and you’re just like, that was a mess?
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Yeah, sometimes. Yeah. Well, I try not to go to those because you usually warn me.
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Okay, let me do it. Transformers movies.
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Okay.
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Not the first one or two. I’m talking after they got into it. Every one you came out thinking, that was such a twisted mess. I have no idea what happened on the screen.
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I’ll give you that. Yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah, that was this. Okay. This had also quite possibly. The most idiotic ending I’ve ever seen. Really? I am dumber for having seen it. Oh, no. I mean, I can’t recover. I did lose many IQ points. Is that bad? It is so bad, so stupid. John, how many thousands of movies have I seen? Not only do I review over 100 a year, but also I was a movie theater manager for many years. Okay, John, I’ve seen a lot of movies. This had the most idiotic ending I’ve ever seen. It was so bad and stupid. Wow. And what blew my mind was this. It was a terrible movie up until then, and then they dumbed it down. They went lower. Okay? I mean, this is awful. Rotten Tomatoes, for some reason, gave this 30%. Yeah, I got nothing. I can’t explain why. Someone knows someone. Maybe because the movie largely had a fairly black theme. Maybe the liberal reviewers wanted to pump it up because of that. I don’t know. I guess maybe. But I’ve seen plenty of black-themed movies that they were willing to say, nah, this isn’t hitting. I don’t like it. This one, I don’t understand anybody liking this at all. Quality, gosh, I’m right between zero and half star. You know what? I’m going to give it zero. This was so bad. I’m going to give this flat zero stars.
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Is that bad?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 10 :
Really?
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Yeah. And, geez, I’m suddenly spacing the name of the guy who was a producer of it, but he has put out lots of really good horror movies. And, you know, they’re black-themed horror movies, and he’s terrific.
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The director is Justin Tipping.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, but that’s not it.
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s not the producer.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. The producer, he usually does a lot of the writing and directing. He did none in this show. He’s a producer, which means what? He threw a lot of money into it, into the look and feel of it. He didn’t write it. He didn’t direct it. You could see it. It was awful.
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Ian Cooper?
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No.
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Not him? Simon? No. Sorry, man. David Kern. No. Wow. We’ll give up. I’m blowing out on him.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Well, basically, Jordan Peele. There we go. Thank you, Charlie. Jordan Peele. He’s further down the list. Yeah. In other words, he was just a name that they got somebody to contribute in on this a little bit.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, literally, because he’s like one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. He’s the eighth guy on the list.
SPEAKER 11 :
John, there are people in there. In fact, I was talking to somebody at the theater. They wanted to go to this movie just because Jordan Peele was involved. I’ve gone to a number of Jordan Peele horror movies. They’ve gotten worse lately. They’ve lost focus.
SPEAKER 10 :
Did he check out or something or what?
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Maybe. Maybe he’s just doing too much volume. That can happen where they try to put out too many too quickly. I think the guy is brilliant. I think a lot of his early stuff was very good. I really like it.
SPEAKER 10 :
In this case, they just attached his name.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I think so. Oh, Jordan Peele’s involved.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hey. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Guys, no. This is awful. It’s that bad. Because, like I said, I want to give it a half star just because it’s still not as bad as Y2K because nothing is. But no, I’m going to give it zero.
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Is it worse than Y2K?
SPEAKER 11 :
No. No, it’s not as bad as Y2K. Y2K is the worst movie.
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Ever.
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Well, it’s the worst easily that I’ve seen in five, six years. Okay. So this is not as bad as that. But it is horrible, folks. Do not. I know. And for those out there who are thinking, Jordan Peele, Jordan Peele. He has virtually. He didn’t write it. He didn’t direct it. He’s what? Third, fourth, whatever. Eighth. In the list of producers, this is not a Jordan Peele movie. This is a bad movie.
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Okay, political and moral.
SPEAKER 11 :
Political two, moral religious two.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, so two and two.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, they may, you know. It doesn’t matter.
SPEAKER 10 :
You’re not going to see it anyways.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, they insult you a little bit here and there. Not enough to where I care. That’s just a thing. Political two, you’re wondering, Andy, why didn’t you mention those? Because I don’t care. The movie is so bad, I literally didn’t care about what it was saying politically and morally. So anyway, him is a disaster movie that wasn’t supposed to be.
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The best export we have is common sense. You’re listening to Rush to Reason.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate. And John, are you ready for another movie? Absolutely. All right, well.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hopefully better than the last one.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I think we can top that, John. I’m pretty confident. Sports are for the young. I think we can agree on this, right? We’ve all watched it. It’s a young man’s game. But an old guy lives his dream in the senior. Football.
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The greatest game in the history of mankind. It’s more than that. It’s a shot.
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Hello? At immortality. I never finished my senior year. Why not? I got thrown out for fighting. gets kicked off his own team. I wish I could go back and do it all over again. I’m eligible. Eligible for what? To play.
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Every one of you is gonna have to earn a spot on this team.
SPEAKER 16 :
Just to be clear, there’s no hidden camera somewhere?
SPEAKER 08 :
No one’s gonna run over me. I guarantee you that. Okay. Okay?
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How are you doing this at your age, man?
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He’s like a 59-year-old Rudy.
SPEAKER 08 :
He’s my father.
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I’m coming for you, old man. I don’t want to watch him break his neck.
SPEAKER 08 :
If you got hurt, it would destroy every soul on this team.
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Why does this one have to be a win?
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It’s not about winning. I know why you have to do this, and I’m with you. This game, it’s a second chance. We’re not defined by our successes. We’re defined by our regrets. And I’ve had a ton. As a teammate, as a husband, as a dad. I’m so sorry. Don’t let tonight be that first regret. Will Mike Flint finally get his name in the history books? Let’s make this a game they’ll always remember. That’s you, Flint.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right, John, what do you think?
SPEAKER 10 :
I mean, cheesy, but sounds good.
SPEAKER 11 :
It is cheesy. I’ll say right out front, this is a cheesy movie. Okay, Michael Chiklis, you know him.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
He stars in the true story.
SPEAKER 10 :
I like him, actually.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, yeah, I like him a lot. He stars in the true story of Mike Flint, a 59-year-old man who wanted to play college football again. Once again, true story. Oh, really? Oh, yes. Oh, I didn’t know that. Yeah, Mike had once been a good player, but he was kicked off his college team for fighting, as you heard in the preview. Now in 2007, Mike has terrible regrets over the worst decision of his life. But then Mike learns there’s a loophole giving him one year of eligibility. So despite the misgivings of his wife, Eileen, who’s played by Mary Stewart Masterson, she’s a wonderful actress, Mike walks on at Sewell Ross State University. Okay. This 59-year-old wants one last chance to play. You’re like me playing football. I know, it’s funny. Well, naturally, Mike can’t move like the young guys. And the whole idea sounds bizarre. There’s plenty of razzing from some of the players, but there’s respect as well. Well, throughout the process, we see Mike training longer and harder than the young guys, giving everything he has. Like so many Rocky-style films, the training is inspirational. But still, is this a good idea? Mike was driven by his dad’s failure is not an option mindset. Is he letting that motivate him or control him? And by the way, he’s he’s a pretty violent man because of this. All right. Never to his wife. Never. You know, he would never. And at one point he’s asked about, you know, you always want to fight. He says never against someone who can’t fight back.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, I kind of like that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
OK. This is a question for all of us, though. You know, is it motivating us or is it controlling us when we look back on these? You know, the whole failure is not an option thing. And I think this is something that drives a lot of men. Yeah. OK. Our upbringings, our failures, our circumstances. How much do these push us into bad ideas or how much do they inspire us for good? It’s a personal question for everyone, and Mike has his own pros and cons. But by his side, he has a smart wife who could convict him and back him. That’s marriage. In the end, could we get one more game out of The Senior? That’s the story of The Senior. What do you think?
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, again, it seems cheesy, but I didn’t know it was a real story. That makes it a little bit more interesting.
SPEAKER 11 :
It is, and it’s by Angel Studios.
SPEAKER 10 :
A lot of great actors and actresses in it, by the way.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, yeah. So you’ve got the Christian studio putting this on.
SPEAKER 10 :
Real quick, some, that as I look through here and look at who they are, surprise, they’re in an Angel film. Oh, yeah. Because some of the roles they’ve played in the past, you wouldn’t put the Angel label on, let’s just say that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and let’s face it, Michael Chiklis has played some roles where you wouldn’t put the Angel label on. Angel Studios, by the way, doesn’t just work with Christian actors. They work with anyone.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, they don’t.
SPEAKER 11 :
Which is interesting. I think that they like to have an impact on actors.
SPEAKER 10 :
I believe in this case, looking at all of the ones that are listed here, they probably are. Yeah. Good for them, by the way.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I think it’s kind of neat. Well, what works in the senior? I like how Mike’s not just yearning for the glory days. I like that. He made mistakes and wants to make good. That’s a positive message. But he’s also been damaged. All right? That’s a tough message. I like the messaging throughout. As faith-based films go, this is pretty well directed and filmed. You have okay football action, pretty good. It’s much better than the previous movie.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, the football action in this is way better than in him.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Which is just… That’s surprising, actually. Yeah, I know, because you would think, okay. It’s a budgetary end of things. It’s probably way different, right? You would think so, yes.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, you have excellent performances from Chiklis and Masterson. That didn’t surprise me. They have good chemistry, good heart. They worked very well together. You could see them doing more. You have a good exploration of the rift between Mike and his adult son.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
And that’s been really hard because, you know, he wanted his adult son to be manly, manly, manly, tough, tough, tough, fighter, fighter, fighter, just like him. And the kid didn’t want that. And it’s not that the kid wouldn’t have grown up. This is one of those cases where you can really see the kid being affected by the dad, right? Being pushed, pushed, pushed into something, you’re going to want to be anything else, right? And that was a real problem. I thought they explored that well. It was good. There’s some funny moments, which was a strength of I Can Only Imagine. Remember that movie? So that’s good. They kind of have that feel again. This is a classic feel-good movie at a time when we need to feel good. I mean, we really do. It’s faith-based. But a big Bible discussion, it wouldn’t have fit here. They have it mixed in lightly because it’s really part of his life. Okay?
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. He really did have it. I mean, he was no Christian. All right. But he had Christian influences in his life and it did affect him. It’s very well balanced. I like that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
What doesn’t work in the senior? It’s the same basic story as the rodeo. Okay. Which Angel Studios just put out.
SPEAKER 10 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. Probably shouldn’t have released them.
SPEAKER 10 :
Old guy going back into the whatever. Right. The sport.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and that’s what I’m saying. Releasing them from the same studio in the same year, I wouldn’t have done that. I would have put this off until next year. This also suffers from lots of cliches, of course, as you expect. But… Sports movies, the ones that are really cliche-ridden, it gets old quick. And I think they have a few too many in this. I’ve seen much worse, but a few too many. As with The Last Rodeo, sequences with young actors look clumsy, not raw. It comes off sanitized, and you can tell there’s a Christian studio making this. Sure, they have a little bit of language to try to make it somewhat real, but it just feels sanitized. Like the young people would be funner, even more fun than this. All right. And now the last rodeo had huge problems with the young actors. They were terrible. The young actors in this are much better than the last rodeo. So I’ll give them that. While the locker room sequences are poorly written and directed, the more touching scenes are much better. All right. So the locker room sequences, I’m just kind of like, I’m not feeling it. This doesn’t feel like a good sports movie. Even a sports comedy like Major League, the locker room sequences… Joe Boo.
SPEAKER 10 :
Joe Boo, right? Right.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, they’re crazy, they’re over the top, but you can feel it.
SPEAKER 10 :
But that’s what goes on in locker rooms.
SPEAKER 11 :
But it feels totally real for that movie.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. The locker room sequences here don’t feel very real for this movie.
SPEAKER 10 :
Because they’re too sanitized or… Yeah, they’re sanitized, they’re clumsy.
SPEAKER 11 :
There’s also… You know what, John, when I’ve seen Angel Studios, and they’ve tried this a little bit, trying to do… Now, they did do the Kurt Warner movie, which we’ll mention in the next hour, and that’s good. That was much better. But generally, when they try to do sports, you can tell… These are people who didn’t play the game.
SPEAKER 10 :
They don’t understand what goes on.
SPEAKER 11 :
Or at least don’t understand the game. They don’t understand, or they don’t know how to direct the game. And it just doesn’t come off feeling real. It comes off like actors trying to act like they were in a locker room.
SPEAKER 12 :
Does that make sense? Yeah, I get it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and it doesn’t work. More touching scenes are actually much better, especially between husband and wife, husband, father and son. Those go a lot better. Let’s see here. Even then, the pace is too slow. There’s too much hesitation. They needed more topping off lines. Now, topping of lines, that’s a stage kind of thing. lingo and something you and i do it’s something richard and i do okay a lot of times you’ll hear richard and i on the radio and right as he’s finishing i’ll jump in and right as i’m finishing he’ll jump in okay that’s called topping someone’s lines okay and it’s it’s called ping pong bam bam bam bam back back and forth back and forth back and forth and you hear if you were to hear people instead if you were to put space in between all those lines I speak space. He speaks space. She speaks space. It slows down. It’s disjointed. It’s stunted. Okay. You have that in this movie. There’s a lot of that going on in the senior where you don’t have people topping each other’s lines. And when you top each other’s lines, it’s almost like you’re cutting each other off. There’s energy there. There’s flow. Okay. It’s boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. That’s missing here. And you can just really tell. Locker Room Speech, in the end, very poorly edited and directed. Very poorly done, John. Very poorly done. It’s totally unrealistic. It’s just bad. It’s one of the… Worst done locker room speeches I’ve ever seen.
SPEAKER 10 :
Really?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. It’s the anti-Hoosiers. Okay, I’m sorry, but they just didn’t stick the landing. All right? Rotten Tomatoes gave this movie 90%. They like this movie, John. I’m going to give it three stars. Okay. I think it’s good. I think it’s good. I think it’s worth seeing. And I think it’s a real feel-good movie right now. But it’s not great. It’s not one of the really good football movies that we’re going to discuss in hour two. Political four, more religious. I’m going to give it a four. But in a way, that’s a good thing. I don’t think I wanted a five.
SPEAKER 10 :
You don’t want to sanitize. It’s a football movie.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn’t want a sermon. Okay, so I actually didn’t want a five with this. So actually, I wanted a four. That’s a good thing. It’s got a good message, but it’s not browbeating me.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, anybody can go see it then.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, well, yeah, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with this. And by the way, that’s a good question there, a good point that you raise. Can you bring a non-Christian to this film and have them not really feel pushed? Yeah, you can.
SPEAKER 10 :
Good.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s the way it ought to be.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I think so, too. I think we need more of those.
SPEAKER 10 :
I agree with you, Andy.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, don’t get me wrong. I think there are movies that are just made for Christians, and that’s fine.
SPEAKER 10 :
And that’s fine.
SPEAKER 11 :
But this isn’t that, and I like that. So do I recommend going to the senior? Well, certainly after some of the movies that have come out. It’s a weak time right now. But also, folks, we need to feel good right now. It’s a tough time.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, good point.
SPEAKER 11 :
And this is a feel-good movie. Yes, go see the senior. Have a good weekend.
SPEAKER 10 :
In light of that, their timing isn’t bad. Right. Given that they’ve already had a similar movie like this earlier in the year, in light of everything that’s happened, which they didn’t know, by the way. No, they didn’t, of course. They had no idea that was going to happen.
SPEAKER 11 :
They had no idea that this was going to happen.
SPEAKER 10 :
In that case, their timing’s pretty good.
SPEAKER 11 :
It’s very good. It’s very good.
SPEAKER 10 :
Which will probably help them.
SPEAKER 11 :
I believe so.
SPEAKER 10 :
I’m guessing.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 10 :
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SPEAKER 11 :
Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, John. Are you ready for a third movie? Absolutely. Okay. Dave Bautista. Do you like him? Yeah. I like him. Yeah. Well, he has another action movie in Afterburn.
SPEAKER 04 :
When the solar flare hit… lost our humanity you saw what people did as the world burned the monsters they became if we’re to rebuild we have to hold on to every masterpiece of human achievement jay you have a gift for acquiring treasures and what would i be hunting down this time mona the mona lisa
SPEAKER 09 :
Z’s and warlords. Yeah, this is definitely a bad idea. The world is a gladiatorial arena. I worried the opponent was hard to fight. I could have taken that guy.
SPEAKER 18 :
You’re welcome.
SPEAKER 09 :
We just flew into a war zone. Jumped out of a plane for the first time. Got attacked by a tank. All this work painting, I don’t get it. What’s going on that everybody’s willing to die for? I want our world back, Jake.
SPEAKER 04 :
From these ages of chaos.
SPEAKER 1 :
We got work to do.
SPEAKER 11 :
We got work to do. What do you think, John? Good. Sounds, I mean, sounds good. Sounds good. Okay. Well, we start in a post-apocalyptic setting. As several years earlier, a solar flare destroyed all electronics on Earth. And wiped out a lot of other things, too. I mean, I don’t know. Do you know what a solar flare can do? It’s incredible.
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely. Oh, yes. Talk about it on Radio Radio all the time.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, you do? I didn’t know that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, it was massive. CMEs and all that. Yes, absolutely.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. And wiped out everything. Well, rather than having our governments forge the way ahead, which they thought they were going to. You know, everybody figured, well, the governments will pick it up, we’ll rebuild, we’ll get this going again. No, they fell apart, and warlords rose to take control of territories.
SPEAKER 10 :
Typically what happens in these novels, by the way.
SPEAKER 11 :
Really quick here, you do Ready Radio before the show on Friday.
SPEAKER 10 :
And I actually read or listen to books along these lines constantly.
SPEAKER 11 :
What I want to ask, John, is because you’re so well-prepared, will you be a warlord?
SPEAKER 10 :
I will be, yes.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, are you planning on being a warlord?
SPEAKER 10 :
It is survival of the fittest. I’m here to tell you I’m going to be on the top.
SPEAKER 11 :
You’ve already written your territory up there in Arvada, Golden, that whole area.
SPEAKER 10 :
I’ve already got my tower built. I’m ready to go.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, this is cool. Okay. Well, Dave Bautista, he stars as John Rush. No, he stars as Jake, a man who specializes in finding rare objects. Jake is freelance, but his main employer is Valentine. He’s played by Samuel Jackson, who we love. Valentine is a king. I’m using air quotes here in England. And now he has a new target for Jake, the Mona Lisa. Yes, the actual Mona Lisa. Why? Because in this collapsed world, rare artifacts bring power. Although Valentine is a shady character with deeper motives. But the pay is good, so Jake agrees. Well, unfortunately, Jake must be dropped into France, airdropped into France, which has descended into complete chaos. So, you know, like France today.
SPEAKER 10 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 11 :
It’s run by evil General Volkov. And to complete his mission, Jake is joined by rebel fighter Drea. Is his wife a transgender? No, no, she is not. Well, he doesn’t have a wife. Oh, you mean the General Volkov’s wife? Yeah. No, no, no transgender wife.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, just checking. Just checking. Candice, you don’t have to worry. Sorry, just checking.
SPEAKER 11 :
You’re safe to watch this movie. Dre is played by Olga Karolenko, who I’ve always liked. You know, she’s pretty. There you go. Well, as Jake battles Volkov’s henchmen, he begins wondering why all the fuss over a painting. I mean, sure, it’s valuable, but all this? There must be more. And there is. Well, once Jake realizes the full scope of his mission, it’s too late to get out, John. So he and Drea must fight to survive France. You know, like France today. I mean, sorry, France is such a mess right now. And they’ve got to get the target and get back to England. Will this save the world? We find out in Afterburn. What do you think?
SPEAKER 10 :
This is right up my alley. Like I said, I read all these books.
SPEAKER 11 :
You are so going to be a warlord.
SPEAKER 10 :
It’s incredible. Oh, yeah. This is right up my alley, Andy.
SPEAKER 11 :
I see you wearing animal skins.
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely. A helmet. Don’t give me a bear skin. We’re ready to go.
SPEAKER 11 :
It’s going to be great. Okay. Is Richard going to have an animal skin and helmet on?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah, we’ve already got our plan figured out. Absolutely. We’re dialed in.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. Well, what works in Afterburn? Some of the close quarters action sequences, the fight sequences, they’re very good. I always like watching Dave Bautista fighting in a movie. He’s such a big guy. He’s a brawler. He’s fast. And they always make it so it looks faster. And, of course, he’s using a shotgun and blowing people away. So you have lots of visceral blowing this off, blowing that off, and whatever. That’s always fun. Okay, what else works in Afterburn? Oh, no.
SPEAKER 10 :
That stinks.
SPEAKER 11 :
I’m sorry. I’m so sorry. That stinks. I wanted desperately to like this movie. I did. Yeah, I do, too. I know. What doesn’t work? Nearly everything, John. This is a cheap, cheap film. You ever heard the little birds go cheep, cheep, cheep, cheep? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That’s what this film is like.
SPEAKER 10 :
It’s ruining my day, Andy.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I’m here to ruin your day. But that’s okay because now you know that when you’re a warlord, you won’t have anybody else who can rise up out of this movie.
SPEAKER 10 :
Can I use it for educational purposes?
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, absolutely.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, good.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, you can watch it to get a feel for how you’re going to do this. Okay, good. Are you going to have a compound and people like me can’t?
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 11 :
You’re going to leave us starving outside?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah. No, you’re locked out. Absolutely. I kind of figured. You need a secret password. Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
I’ll be the first one blown away as I come over the wall. I’m trying to feed my children. You don’t have any children. You’re done. Back to the movie. Okay, we got to get back to this movie. What is so bad about Afterburn? I’m sorry. There’s very little CGI to show the post-apocalyptic landscape. And that’s the whole reason for the movie. Yes. I mean, warlords.
SPEAKER 10 :
Sorry that it is.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, warlords have risen to power, but we don’t see any impressive Lord of the Rings style battles over territory. There are close quarters action sequences, which only takes a few people. They’re cheap. Right. but no large-scale battles. This all looks so small. It’s almost like a play. I mean, don’t get me wrong. You do have some moments of marching troops, so to speak, but this is weak. The script is all fizzle, no pop. There are virtually no one-liners, whether for action or humor. Several issues are raised, like food shortages, poverty, but not explored. I mean, it’s just terrible. They mention them and then move on to whatever else, nothing they’re going to say. Any film using the line, this is a really bad idea, has awful writing. I’m sorry. When the hero says, he’s going to do something risky, this is a really bad idea. Bautista uses it several times. Yeah. Yeah, don’t do that. Yeah, I know. Every actor sleepwalks through this film. I’m serious.
SPEAKER 10 :
Is that bad?
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, yes. Bautista, he looks tired. Karolinko, she’s comatose. Even Samuel Jackson has no personality.
SPEAKER 10 :
What? He always has personality.
SPEAKER 11 :
How do you have Samuel Jackson have no personality? He is personality, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
Didn’t write it well enough.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I almost wonder if somebody drugged him before he went on set. It was incredible. The villains, they do terrible things to people we don’t care about. It’s just like, whatever. Who cares? Oh, yeah. The plot is convoluted. Who cares about the Mona Lisa in a world where everyone is starving and warlords control the streets?
SPEAKER 10 :
I could have written a better script than that, Andy. Yes, you could have, John. No one cares. Trust me. In an apocalypse, no one cares about that stuff. No. The guy that wins has the most of everything. That’s who wins. Yes. Okay. And it’s not art. Oh, no. No, no. It’s guns and ammo and food and water and all of that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Now, they did make ammo and food important. Okay. But, John, eventually this is explained, but that falls short, too. Okay. It’s all about getting one weapon in a world with far better weapons. Huh? Yeah, okay. Okay. Bautista and Karolinko, they’re on the run, but they rarely run.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, what are they, old?
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, I know Bautista isn’t, you know, 25 anymore, but come on, man. Pick it up. One, two, one, two. At one moment, they even slowly walk away from a fiery explosion behind them.
SPEAKER 10 :
Without running.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. That was probably the studio going up in flames with stars storming off the set. I have no idea. Because I got news for you that those two, along with Samuel Jackson, cashed their checks and ran screaming off the set when this was done. I’m just going to say it. Bautista’s career has now hit rock bottom. That’s too bad. It seriously has. Other recent movies in the Lost Lands, bomb. The Killers game, bomb. This guy on his own as a leading man has been putting out bomb after bomb after bomb. They’re going nowhere. And by the way, that’s probably part of the reason why they had no budget for Afterburn. Awful.
SPEAKER 10 :
Too bad.
SPEAKER 11 :
Rotten Tomatoes. They couldn’t even get anybody to review it.
SPEAKER 10 :
That bad.
SPEAKER 11 :
Maybe some other reviews have popped, but last one I saw, they only had one review. There’s probably some more, but it was obviously a thumbs down. So it was sitting at 0%, but that doesn’t really count. There weren’t enough to count. Quality. Here’s the big question, John. Is this as bad as him? No.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, good.
SPEAKER 11 :
No. It is a half star.
SPEAKER 10 :
Not a zero.
SPEAKER 11 :
Not a zero. It’s not a zero, if only because I like Dave Bautista. After his last three movies, I don’t know why I like Dave Bautista. Maybe I’m still thinking Guardians of the Galaxy. You feel sorry for him. Yeah. Well, you know, I loved him as Drax, right? I loved him in that. And there’s still a part of me saying, I still want to like this guy. Yes, he’s a liberal nutcase who hates me, but I like the actor. I want to like his movies. Yeah. Dave, seriously, take a step back, slow down, and get a good script. Now, I’m serious because, John, his career is plummeting right now. I mean, it is going off a cliff. And he has to do something. He has to get a good script, get in a good movie, and he’s got to do it stat.
SPEAKER 10 :
Quickly.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. Political, too. A little bit here. Not enough to matter. More religious. What do you do in a movie like this? But it’s a three.
SPEAKER 10 :
It is what it is for the movie that it is.
SPEAKER 11 :
It’s the end of the world. Yeah, yeah. You know, I mean, people aren’t going around.
SPEAKER 10 :
They’re not baking cupcakes.
SPEAKER 11 :
They’re not baking cupcakes. But they’re also not going around showing a ton of skin.
SPEAKER 10 :
There’s no time for that. It’s the apocalypse.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, apocalypse. Well, you know, I mean, there are apocalyptic movies where, I don’t know, they do show some skin.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I suppose there might be some of that, but typically, I mean, even all of the books and stuff that I’ve read, typically, yeah, no, everybody’s just, they’re trying to survive. That stuff doesn’t even exist.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, like, you hate Mad Max Fury Road. I respect that. It’s not your kind of movie. Totally respect it. But the frantic action in that kind of movie…
SPEAKER 10 :
Is better than this.
SPEAKER 11 :
Or the frantic action in Furiosa needed to be injected into this.
SPEAKER 10 :
This is the opposite. No, I would agree with you on that.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, they have one moment where they have a bunch of people who are apparently cannibals, and they’re also gymnasts. And they’re jumping around and flying around and all this in France. Help me. I got no explanation.
SPEAKER 10 :
As a side note, because we got a minute here. Yeah, go. Every single one of these books I’ve read where they turn into cannibals, they get the shakes. Do they get the shakes? I don’t know if that’s true or not.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, nobody had the shakes in this, just so you know.
SPEAKER 10 :
Every book I’ve read, when there’s a cannibal, or even a tribe of cannibals or whatever, they get the shakes.
SPEAKER 11 :
Is it because they’re not getting enough fiber?
SPEAKER 10 :
I don’t know.
SPEAKER 11 :
I don’t know.
SPEAKER 10 :
Eating the wrong kind of marrow? I don’t know.
SPEAKER 11 :
I don’t know.
SPEAKER 10 :
They start eating each other.
SPEAKER 11 :
Let me just say this, John. When the movie is made about your kingdom, when you become a warlord, it will be better than Afterburn.
SPEAKER 10 :
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SPEAKER 10 :
Live and local, back to Rush to Reason. All right, Charlie just sent me this. Yes. In regards to what we were talking about earlier, where the McCrones are going to offer scientific evidence to U.S. court to prove that Bridget is a woman, in fact.
SPEAKER 11 :
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
SPEAKER 10 :
Brigitte. Brigitte. Brigitte.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I don’t want to see evidence that this is a woman. Just so you know, personally.
SPEAKER 10 :
Scientific evidence.
SPEAKER 11 :
Ew. Scientific, okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
I don’t know what that means, but… This is all having to do with Candace Owens, of course.
SPEAKER 11 :
Does a baby show a clip of her watching HGTV?
SPEAKER 10 :
That beats me.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, that might do it. I don’t know. Here we have proof.
SPEAKER 10 :
I have no idea. All right, next hour, football movies. Yeah, football movies. We’ll do picks, of course, NFL picks. Richard and Andy will do that right at the top of the hour, then football movies. So start texting in your favorite football movies. There aren’t that many. Yeah, it doesn’t have to be all football. No. But typically you don’t have a movie without it really being all football because that’s just typically how it works. Generally, yeah. Football isn’t something that’s usually just mentioned. Yeah, it’s usually the heart of the movie. So anyways, we’ll be right back. Don’t go anywhere. Hour 2 is next. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 1 :
I’m a rich guy.
