In this episode of Rush to Reason, host John Rush dives into the intricacies of maintaining your home’s heating and air conditioning systems as the seasons change. Hunter from Cub Creek Heating and Air Conditioning joins John to discuss when to consider upgrading your HVAC system and the cost savings involved in doing so. Additionally, they explore the concept of ‘auto mode’ on your thermostat and how it impacts home efficiency during unpredictable weather transitions. The episode also highlights the importance of regular tune-ups to ensure your systems are performing optimally and the potential regulatory changes that could affect
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And welcome, Monday, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Hope you all had a fabulous weekend, another week in store. Hunter from Cub Creek Heating and Air Conditioning joining us now and probably talk more right now, heat versus AC. Hunter, as we have a cold front moving through.
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Yeah, it looks like tomorrow might be a little bit chilly.
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Uh-huh, it may very well be. Now, I know we’re not out of the woods yet, and some folks will be going back and forth. That’s the time of the year, or this is the time of the year where that can happen. You can flip-flop from using AC. It was 80 degrees at my place yesterday, and yet at night it cools off. And for me, not quite enough to turn the furnace on, but it’s getting close.
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I call this time of the year the auto mode because on your thermostat, most people’s thermostats are in the auto where it’s on heat and cool. So I know I have mine set there. And yeah, there’s been a couple mornings where I’ve noticed the furnace has come on. So it definitely is that time of year.
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meaning they need to be basically taking care of the furnace sides of things that will be firing up if it hasn’t already. And, you know, I’ll mention this for you as well, Hunter. If you’re somebody that maybe struggled a little bit this last year with the AC side of things and maybe you know you’re actually due for an upgrade, you know what? The combination of that and furnace, maybe they should think about doing both at once.
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I highly recommend doing both at once. Number one, it’s going to save you a lot of money on the installation costs. Typically, it cuts about $2,500 off the total bill if you do them both at the same time. So that is a pretty big savings. Not to mention, when you go to replace that AC, The AC uses the blower on the furnace motor to cool the home. So if you put a brand new AC on an old furnace, you’re not actually going to get that full efficiency rating that you would get out of that. out of that AC that it’s rated for. So if it’s a 16 sear AC and you’ve got it on an older furnace, you may not get that full 16 sears out of that system. So to boost efficiency, not to mention matching everything up, It is going to increase efficiency. And then on top of that, the peace of mind you’ll get with both of them. If you do both of them, you’ve got a 10-year parts warranty on all of them. It’s basically out of sight, out of mind. We don’t have to worry about it for 10 years. Just change that filter and that furnace, and you’re off and running.
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All right. For folks that are listening, they were there thinking, you know, I know that all of that is true. I probably might wait until next spring to go ahead and do something with the AC unit since I’ve made it this far. But I’m having struggles with my furnace. What can you do to help them?
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We’re always going to leave the decision up to you. We’re never going to force you into anything you don’t want to do. Our job is to educate you on something that you don’t know about that we do. Our goal is to give you the most information we can for you so you can make the best informed decision for you at your point in your life. That’s what we’ll do. We can come in. We offer tune-ups. We actually offer a variety of tune-ups. We have our basic tune-up, which runs with everybody in the market where we come through and we’ll just check um we just check everything if there’s anything outside of that we’re gonna if there’s anything we find we’ll let you know and it and but as far as that goes we’ll just go through all the motors all the blowing blower motors and everything and check it all out um and then we do offer a next step up where we go through and we actually clean a lot of the components in the furnace and do that um and that’s and then change and the filters included with that service and then we um ultimately do that. On the next one, we go through and we actually do everything as I mentioned before. On top of that, we’ll run a combustion, what they call a combustion analysis on your furnace as well. What that tells us is that gives us the complete picture of how your furnace is operating. If it’s achieving complete and total combustion, if we’re running at peak performance, if we’re a lot of times at altitude, almost all of our furnaces a lot of times are under-fired. because we don’t have as much oxygen. So basically you’re running fuel rich. So we can really increase the efficiency with that top tier tune-up. And on top of that, we are running the special now for KLZ listeners of $56 off of all of those. So it is a great time to take advantage of all that.
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Okay. So how far out are you on some of that if somebody actually needs to get something taken care of that way? In other words, if they need to get a tune-up done or whatever, how far out are we?
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Tune-ups aren’t an emergency, but we can get to you within a week now. As it stands right now, obviously, that’s first come, first served. So as we get more and more, obviously, it could get pushed out longer. If you do have a furnace problem or anything like that, we can get to you sooner. As always, we like to say no heat is an emergency in Colorado. You can get a lot of issues with that.
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Right. Somebody just asked, too, a text message came in. Are furnaces going up due to NOx emissions? In other words, is there emission standards changing that’s going to push the price up on furnaces?
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There is a lot of talk on that. California has entered a lot of the low NOx stuff. It’s low NOx. So they are moving towards that. It’s more on the 80% side. I know Colorado has flirted with it quite a bit. I know a lot of counties, Boulder County and different counties are going to, and this is as far as I’m, I know right now is just going to new and new construction builds, but they’re going to no, no combustion appliances. So basically you’re, you’re relegated to a heat pump or anything or something like of that nature, electric heat at that point. I have heard rumors of places more down towards Colorado Springs and stuff that There’s rumors that they’re going to low-knock stuff, and I’ve heard of a couple companies installing some low-knock stuff, but it’s not quite there, but it is something that more than likely is coming down the pike.
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Okay, so my thought there, and thank you for texting that in, if you’re somebody where you’ve been putting off a furnace replacement, you know you’re getting to the end of life, you’ve just been waiting, for whatever reason, Hunter, budgetary reasons or whatever, my suggestion would be before something like that changes, and for a lot of you listening, this doesn’t matter federally what’s going on politic-wise. This is all on a state-by-state, city-by-city, county-by-county basis, Hunter, as you know. My thought would be knowing some of that might be changing, I would get that done sooner than later.
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Yeah. And ultimately it’ll, it’ll also to add to that, it’ll also more than likely follow as more and more jurisdictions include the low NOx requirement and stuff like that the manufacturers typically um tend to follow suit okay so they will start converting all and pretty much all the 80 furnaces will at some point they’ll start that’s how they’ll be manufactured just because it makes no sense makes sense and and and like i said that typically the odds are that will drive up the price
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All right, Cub Creek Heat and Air Conditioning. I say it a lot, but find them at klzradio.com. You can go to rushtoreason.com and find them there as well. Hunter, as always, I appreciate it. Thank you for all that you do for us, and we’ll keep sending folks your way.
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Awesome. We appreciate you, John.
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Thank you. Thank you, Hunter. Appreciate it very much. And great guy. And I mean this sincerely. If you have any issues at all with anything HVAC-related, give them a call. Wait. If Hunter’s super busy, depending upon what the weather and stuff is doing, as you just heard a moment ago, that’s fine. Go ahead and wait. And, again, on the furnace sides of things, call early. If you’ve got any issues at all, call now. Don’t delay. Again, Cub Creek Heating and Air Conditioning. Find them at klzradio.com. And up next, Roof Savers of Colorado, whereby Dave can rejuvenate your current roof. And we talked to him this morning, and he mentioned about some of the insurance things that are still going on. He continues to give me case-by-case analysis. What I’m saying on that is a lot of insurance companies are canceling insurance policies because of age, condition of the roof, and so on.
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All right, Friday’s question of the day. In 2022, 6.64 billion people had a smartphone. How many people have one today in 2025? The answer is 7.21 billion, meaning that some have more than one. Because remember, the population, the 7 billion or so people we have on planet Earth, that includes kids. And in some cases, elderly who might actually not even be able to use a phone any longer, meaning that if there’s that many phones, a lot of folks have more than one. And I’ve seen some of those people. That one, you may be one of them. This is not a criticism, but I’ve always wondered why. They make the ability to forward phone numbers and so on to where, why do you carry two devices? And I’ve always heard the excuse, well, this one’s work phone, this is personal. Okay, so you’re not disciplined enough to put that one down, even when it involves work? In other words, okay, so that’s your work one, and you just sort of turn it off and don’t worry about it when it’s not time for work? You’re not disciplined enough to just ignore those messages? Anyways, sorry, not to get off on a tangent, but I’ve never been able to figure out why you would need Two phones. I’ve heard stories, by the way, of certain CEOs that carry around a half a dozen phones. Marcioni used to run Stellantis. I read an article last week about him and he carried, I think, again, I read the story last week, so didn’t memorize this. But I’m not mistaken. I think he carried six to 10 cell phones in any given time. I don’t know why. The story didn’t say why. And I’m not criticizing him because he was a great CEO for Stellantis. In fact, things have tanked ever since he left. He died, basically. Things have tanked ever since then. So I’m not criticizing the guy. He did a great job. So I don’t know. Somehow he figured it out. But I don’t know how you would juggle around 10 different devices or even six different devices. So anyways, moving on. Question of the day today. Each king… In a deck of cards represents a king from history. What does the spades card represent? We had this one a few weeks ago, by the way, so if you remember what that is, you can fill in the blank. I’m not sure I ever gave anybody the answer on that one, though, so maybe that’s why producer Ann put this one back in. So each king in a deck of cards represents a king from history. What does the spades card, or who does the spades card represent? All right, moving along in today’s program, we’ve got a lot in store for you today. I’ve got a couple of guests that will join us throughout the show. This news just came up, and rarely, by the way, when it comes to entertainment news… Am I before Charlie? Almost always. He knows long before I do, but right before showtime today, I asked Charlie if he had seen the news that Jimmy Kimmel is actually returning to ABC tomorrow night. I think I lied. Charlie said Thursday night. I was wrong. It’s Tuesday night, tomorrow night. I misread that. So tomorrow night. Walt and Izzy Company in a new statement says the move was made to avoid further inflaming of a tense situation at an emotional moment for our country. Now, in reality, what that said was, we’re going to give him one more chance, and if he screws up again, he’s gone. That’s my take. Now, I don’t know what kind of talks they’ve had behind the scenes. I highly doubt— that Jimmy Kimmel will make any kind of an apology. In fact, it’ll be really interesting to see how he handles some things. And maybe the way Disney is looking at this is they just know that his contract is ending at the end of the year. So rather than trying to end things prior to that, we’ll go ahead and give him one more chance, put him on a short leash. But if he comes on air and says anything stupid again, he’s going to be gone. Maybe that’s been said to him and his agent. I have no idea. I am a little bit shocked, truthfully, that they’re bringing him back. Now, the other thing that could have happened here is they could have very easily gotten together with some of their corporate attorneys and looked through everything and some of the threats that have been thrown around from Jimmy Kimmel and some of those that are close to him. You know, there could have been a lot of that going on as well. And maybe they’re trying to determine that this is the best thing we can do damage control wise to just move forward. Again, folks, I don’t know. I’m not involved in any of this stuff. And I’ll just be straight up honest. I don’t care. When it comes to entertainment and those loons, I honestly don’t care. I don’t watch Jimmy Kimmel. I don’t know anybody that does. Don’t really care whether he’s on air or off air. I know that Disney, though, if they’re not careful, has a lot more at stake than Jimmy Kimmel does. Because there’s a lot of conservatives, especially, that have a lot to do with Disney because of the Disney name. Even though I don’t consider Disney to be conservative in any way, shape, or form, and they are not, there’s a lot of conservatives, though, that still love the experience that you get at Disney. And what I mean by that is the parks and so on, not necessarily the Disney Channel and all of that. But in general, conservatives and I don’t think I’m wrong in saying this, Charlie, it may be maybe they shouldn’t have done this. But for years and years, you know, conservatives, because I know a lot of them gravitated toward Disney. They looked at Disney as being wholesome, and if you were going to go to a movie, it needed to be a Disney movie, and this, that, and the other. In fact, if you were allowed to go to movies when we were kids, the exception was a Disney movie and things like that. I know it depended upon how you grew up and what conservative home you were in, but that’s how it used to be. Now, I will tell you that in today’s world, it’s not the case because Disney has branched out and has left its core roots years and years and years ago. And I also will tell you that I’ve never been a huge Disney fan, even as a kid. I mean, I liked them. I liked watching The Wonderful World of Disney. If we ever got the opportunity to do it, I would. We went to church on Sunday nights, and that’s when that was always on, so we weren’t always able to watch that. You had to play hooky or be sick to actually be able to watch it in my day. Charlie’s laughing because he understands the pain back then. because you were at church on Sunday night. You weren’t home watching Mutual of Omaha. You couldn’t watch Ed Sullivan, couldn’t watch Mutual of Omaha’s Wild Kingdom, couldn’t watch Disney. Wizard of Oz, yeah, because all that stuff was on Sunday nights. If we got to see it, it was a rare occasion. Anyways, I’m digressing, but back to Jimmy Kimmel. Honestly, folks, I don’t care. Personally, it doesn’t matter to me. I am a little surprised that they’re—am I calling it caving in? I guess he’ll be off air for over a week, right, Charlie, or is it just a week? I can’t remember. It’s a little over a week, I want to say, that he’s been off air. And a lot of conservatives, by the way, said, you know, he’s canceled. No, they just polled him. I don’t think anybody ever said he was totally canceled. There were negotiations and talks going on. And It’ll be interesting to see what… My brain’s going faster than my mouth. Sorry. It’ll be interesting to see where things go. That’s what I’m trying to say here. I’m not sure Jimmy’s out of the woods yet. I guess that’s what I’m ultimately trying to get to here. He probably thinks he’s saved. I wouldn’t say that if I were him. If I were him, I would tread on very thin ice and really be careful with what I say moving forward because you’re liable to get canceled altogether. And on top of that… I will be surprised, and maybe I’m wrong in this, and I could be Charlie, but I’ll bet you his ratings don’t go up after this. Charlie said there’ll be a spike because people will want to watch him immediately to see what he says. Even some conservatives will watch to see what he says, but that’ll fall right off. And he’ll be back to where he was or worse. So that’s my two cents. I don’t know exactly how that’s all going to play out. And once again, I don’t have a dog in the fight and frankly, don’t really care one way or the other what he does. I’ve never liked the guy, never thought he was funny anyways. And how many writers, Charlie, are they on that show? 25 or something? At least 25 writers to try to make him funny. Now, just between all of us, if I needed 25 writers to make my show funny, I think I’d give it up and go do something else. And I’ll just say this. Those 25 don’t do a great job because he’s not funny. So somebody there probably should lose their job because he’s not funny. And I don’t know why it takes 25 writers. But I don’t know that world. Don’t care. That’s a world I don’t live in, don’t care to live in, never will live in. Just not an issue to me at all. And I did get a couple of text messages to see if I had noticed that that news had come in. And, yes, that was coming out. About a half an hour, I want to say, before I came on air is when that was actually announced. I read that article. This particular article was produced at 12.36 p.m., and I don’t know if that—that was probably—I’m guessing that was probably California time. So that would have been 1.30 here. I didn’t see the news until about 2.30, so that’s when I actually saw the announcement started to make its way around. And in a lot of cases, you know, keep in mind, that’s pretty fast to receive that news within an hour of it being posted compared to the old days where you wouldn’t have known about that for maybe a day or two. In today’s instant news tech, you know, instant news cycle that we live in yet to have that news within an hour. That’s pretty fast. So, again, we’ll see what happens. It’s an interesting response, I would say, from Disney on all of this. And here’s here’s my thought, though. I highly doubt. that the writers and or Jimmy Kimmel himself can leave this alone. In other words, they’ll say something. They’ll poke fun at something, and it’ll be interesting to see how they do that end of it and how far away they stay from things. And that’s what people, by the way, Charlie’s correct, that’s what some will tune in for to see what does he actually say on, you know, it’s not live television because all these are recorded, but it’ll be interesting to see exactly what comes out tomorrow night. They’ll record that, what, tomorrow morning or tomorrow afternoon or something, Charlie, probably? 5.30 California time, Charlie says, is when they record that. And they play that later in the night, of course, as you all know. And Charlie said all of the shows are like that. None of them are done at night, so… We’ll see. We’ll see how that goes tomorrow night. Dr. Scott’s coming up next. And Dr. Scott, again, he is my doctor. He would love to help you, and he is looking out for your best interest. And not the best interest, by the way, of what your insurance company has to say or what Big Pharma has to say. He’ll do whatever is best for you. Talk to him today. Call 303-663-6990.
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All right, somebody also messaged and reminded me of, or maybe it’s not a reminder, just mentioning that the Charlie Kirk Memorial was yesterday. I did not watch it, by the way. I use my, especially Sunday afternoons for chores and things like that, especially this time of the year, and I did not watch it. I saw a few excerpts. My wife showed me a few things. She watched some of it, but no, I did not spend four hours yesterday watching that memorial, not because I didn’t want to. Well, honestly, I didn’t want to. I’ll be honest with you guys. I had no desire to watch any of that, and people are probably going to be astonished at that. Why didn’t I want to watch it and see all that went on and so on? Honestly, I had other things to do. And just as a side note, I’m not a big memorial service guy. It’s just me. I’m not a big wedding guy either. I’m not a big those type of events guy, I guess. Maybe that’s the way I can say it. I’ll go, and there’s times where you don’t have any choice. You have to go. But I’ll just tell you in general, for me personally, just not my thing. And… I have my reasons why, but just not my thing. And that’s fine. A lot of people enjoy going. And there was a lot of folks there that I did see some excerpts of, you know, kind of a who’s who of the different folks that showed up and different politicians and leaders and so on. And that’s great. And by the way, I feel like a lot of those folks had to be there. They really didn’t have a choice. It was one of those things where they, especially those that were in support of Charlie, they definitely needed to be there. And I’m glad they were. I think all in all, they were like, I think they live streamed close to 100 million people is one of the figures I saw, and in attendance inside and outside the stadium was around 100,000 people, possibly more. I think the stadium seats 70-some thousand, and there were another 30,000 or so outside is the numbers that I saw. I don’t know that for sure because, again, I wasn’t there, but I did see some pictures that would – validate what i just told you so there was roughly a hundred thousand or so people in person that were there for that service and about a hundred million watching worldwide because literally folks streamed that all around the world i don’t know what the the largest number of individuals to ever see a particular service like this are i again those are those are not things that i track and i didn’t look it up because Again, I don’t care. In this case, 100 million plus those that were live in attendance watched it. And it was from everything I’ve read, everything that I saw, the clips I saw, a very moving, very good service. And everybody that I saw was just talking up one side and down the other as to how great it was. She did. Erica Kirk, his wife, did forgive the shooter, which I will give hats off to her. That’s very difficult for a lot of folks to do, especially that soon after an incident like that. But I think that shows you the caliber of person that she actually is. I saw pictures of, you know, J.D. Vance and, of course, President Trump and her hugging and things like that. And again, very moving, very moving service. But no, I did not spend all four hours there. watching that. And those of you that did, I’m glad you did. And if you want to give some input into that, in fact, you want to call in and even give me some input on that today, you’re more than welcome to do so. Again, our phone number 303-477-5600, 303-477-5600. But again, yeah, no judgment. And if you watched it and you spent four hours and you had four hours to watch, great. I didn’t really even watch much of the crappy Bronco game that we can’t ever seem to pull out and win. So I didn’t see much of anything along those lines because, again, as I go through the weekends, especially this time of the year, I’ve got certain things that need to get accomplished before winter hits, and I do things like that because, as you all know, I’m on air until about 1 o’clock, exactly 1 o’clock on Saturdays, and I typically have a few things that I do right after that, and then I start in and have other things that, I need to get done throughout the weekend, so my time is limited, and I didn’t have four hours to spend doing that yesterday. So at any rate, yes, for those of you that are mentioning that, I did see that. I did see a few excerpts of and so on. And again, it was a great service, and I commend all of those that were in attendance, and it’ll be interesting and even fun to watch now to see what happens moving forward. I like Erica, by the way, a lot. I think she’ll do very well with the organization. She will have to fill some big shoes, as we all know. But I believe if there’s anybody that can do it, I think she’ll do just fine, especially after watching some of these speeches and things that she has done. since Charlie’s passing, his assassination. I think she’s done very well. And by the way, I commend her for that. I think she’s doing an excellent job. The biggest question, and Andy and I talked about this last Tuesday, will be, does she have the ability to bring the factions together that are still involved in Turning Point? You know, the Candace Owen nut jobs of that End of things. Can she bring them in and and calm down some of the nonsense that goes on there with the folks like Candace Owens, which Candace is a nut job in and of herself. And I’ve said that numerous times. And that one I’ll keep saying she is. In fact, I will just say this about Candace. I wasn’t going to mention this, but I will now. Her whole conspiracy of what has gone on and the shooting itself and so on, she could have waited at least a week or two to go through some of what she’s doing. But Candace is all about Candace. And if you haven’t believed me in regards to that, look at what she’s done in the past week regarding all of that. And I’m not trying to exaggerate here, but his body’s not even cold yet, and she’s spewing out all these conspiracy theories so she can put the attention back on herself instead of him. And I mean that sincerely. That’s how much of a nut job and an attention seeker she really is. And if you’re somebody that follows Candace Owens, I feel sorry for you. Honestly, I do. I mean that sincerely. I feel sorry for you. You have a screw loose, too, because she does. The only buddy following Candace Owens are nut jobs like her because she’s a nut job. Now, maybe you’re following her to see what other nonsense she’ll spew out that. OK, that’s different. But if you’re following Candace Owens for any other reason, you’re as much of a nut job as she is because she’s a nut job. And nobody does what she did unless you’re just a complete attention-seeking nutjob like she is. And she literally is an attention-seeking nutjob. I have no other way to say it. Sorry, but she is an absolute nutjob. Marty, you’re next.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, well, let’s cut around this, John. We’re entering this really scary territory here where, all on 9-11, we’re kind of just going with the narrative. It was emotional. It was traumatic. We’re not asking enough questions.
SPEAKER 08 :
Who’s saying that we’re not asking enough questions? And, by the way, to be respectful for Charlie, what Candace is doing is totally disrespectful. She’s a nut job, Marty, absolute nut job.
SPEAKER 13 :
I am revisiting all of her claims and analyzing them in a one-off case. This Catholicism conversion has me completely at a loss. So I’m with you there. This steps outside of TPUSA, steps out of local law enforcement, steps out of the FBI. What’s clear is that this administration and the government is – I mean, Kash Patel was right there. And we think they’re lying to us about the single shooter and a 30-odd.
SPEAKER 08 :
I’m glad you brought this up, Marty, because it’s always amazing to me when things like this happen. Everybody’s now a gun ballistics expert when most cases they’ve never been in that field ever. And as somebody, by the way, I have been. uh hunting and shooting and done all sorts of things and have killed live animals and so on and this whole theory that you know if he was really shot with a 30-06 the back of his neck would have been completely blown out that’s just not true marty that is false whoever said that they’re they’re a as well they don’t understand how things work because that’s not true either
SPEAKER 13 :
Are you are you settled on the location, the angle, the direction in which Charlie was shot? Yes, you are settled on that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes. And by the way, that’s coming from somebody that I’ve been around guns my entire life. I’ve shot I’ve shot animals. I’ve done all sorts of things along those lines. Marty, I don’t consider myself, by the way, any sort of, quote unquote, expert along those lines. But my personal experience would say, yes, I’m settled with that.
SPEAKER 13 :
Now, that’s breathtaking because, you know, that’s a moose gun. That’s an elk gun. That’s a high-powered gun. You know it’s coming from, they say, it’s 200 yards of distance.
SPEAKER 08 :
150 is what I calculated on my own Google Maps was about 150. Okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
Going along with all that, of course, now he’s one shot.
SPEAKER 08 :
And like I said, and I said this last week and I’ll say it again, he was about an inch away from missing, meaning he wasn’t as good of a shot as everybody thought he was or saying he was, because I believe he was most likely aiming for his head. Headshot. And he was aiming for a headshot and darn near missed.
SPEAKER 13 :
Head shot and a la Trump. They wanted that visual. It doesn’t do as well if that’s, you know, in the chest, still dead. But it doesn’t give that traumatic. And so I guess this is where we’re looking at this, John.
SPEAKER 08 :
And I got one more thing. I did. I did do a little bit of research on this over the weekend. There’s a lot of folks out there claiming that, you know, nobody talks the way this guy talks. in his text messages and so on. There is actually audio video of him being pulled over by a policeman a couple of years ago. And Marty, that’s exactly how he talks.
SPEAKER 13 :
I saw that he – well, I think the contrast, the highlight of that should be the respectful sort of innocent, non-aggressive nature. Now, they’re going to say that he was radicalized, of course, in the meantime.
SPEAKER 08 :
And another thing I’m glad you brought up because here’s my feeling on that. There are a lot of individuals – that are very disturbed, a lot of turmoil going on, and they’re really good at being a hypocrite or disguising it on the outside, but inside they are completely radicalized, weaponized, call it whatever you want to, Marty, but internally they are wackadoodles.
SPEAKER 13 :
There’s a lot to that.
SPEAKER 08 :
And really quick, by the way, one of them, you and I started talking about Candace Owens. If you were to just have a normal conversation with Candace and look at her and her body language and so on, you would think, well, this is a very nice, attractive-looking woman that I could sit and have a conversation with all day long until she starts going down these rabbit trails.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, I mean, yes and no, but I think setting this aside, this person that you’re describing, cool under pressure, he actually became a murderer, and not only just a murderer. He murdered a high-profile person in a live, high-profile setting and did it cool as a cucumber, and he assembled that gun.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, and I don’t – I wouldn’t go as – not that one. No, I’ll push back on that one as well, Marty. I don’t think he was as cool as a cucumber because – He almost missed, meaning he wasn’t that calm, cool, and collected. And as I’ve said, I could have told you that he was right-handed by the way that bullet actually went because typically people, when they’re nervous and they’re shooting and they’re right-handed with their right finger, they’re going to pull the gun to the right in that particular situation. For example, most people that shoot their first animal, their first deer, their first whatever, In a lot of cases, they’ll completely miss because they get what we call buck fever, meaning that they have a really hard time controlling the gun. Marty, this guy darn near missed. Now, the fortunate thing for him was he grew up around that stuff. He did have a lot of experience being around guns and shooting and so on. So, you know, I’m not giving the guy any ounce of credit whatsoever, but he almost missed, meaning he wasn’t as calm and cool and collected as most people would think.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, it’s a pretty intense environment. It was packed. You’re going to kill somebody. It’s going to be a national thing. And he was planning on living, John, so then you have the whole aftermath. But I want to ask you this, John. If you’re comfortable with the grandfather’s 30-06, one shot through the neck, straight on. Why haven’t we seen the cameras that were up prior or after Charlie was killed? They were directly behind him. They’ve been turned over to the FBI. Don’t you think those cameras would prove your theory? Or could it be that there is no shooter head on, that that bullet very clearly came from Charlie’s right side, exited his neck, and it was not a .30-06 because the coroner’s telling us that his neck bones… stopped that bullet, although you know it would go right through a military-grade helmet. So how do we reconcile? We have no evidence of the direct shot. We have an exit wound being confused as an entry wound. We have a .30-06 being used that would… And I don’t want to be graphic. His head wouldn’t have stayed on his body had it been ingested into his body like they’re describing, meaning it didn’t exit. It got absorbed by his body.
SPEAKER 08 :
And all of that, you know, and by the way, all of that, I don’t know on all of that, Marty. What I do know is some of the eyewitness testimonies like Frank Turek, by the way, who I have a lot of respect for. I’ve interviewed him. Used to have him on almost every Friday on my Faith Friday show. episodes we did years ago frank was literally right there with him was in the car uh you know taking him to the there was no ambulance they literally shuttled him to the hospital in in their suburban i guess you would call it that they actually had there frank was there with him that entire time and when you listen to some of those eyewitnesses eyewitness accounts there’s nobody there that is that is, how should I say, countering the story that we’re being told. Let’s just say that, Marty. And I know Frank Turek well enough to know that if that were the case, he would say so. He’s that honest of a guy.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, but I think all we’re talking about, if we change the location of the shooter, is all we need to do. And what motivation, I mean, there’s no way Frank Turek is going to have a In the moment, even a eyewitness standpoint, that would be trustworthy. He wasn’t looking for a sniper. We just have to now go on physics and geometry.
SPEAKER 08 :
And by the way, when I looked at a lot of that, which I don’t really I don’t want to see it any more than I’ve already seen it. But when I look at the actual image of Charlie being shot and where the blood came squirting out and so on, I’d have a hard time disagreeing with what I’ve already said.
SPEAKER 13 :
John, but John, how can you say no one? You just said this outline and he slumps to his left and the blood is almost like a water fountain coming out the left side of his neck. Are we on the same page so far? That’s where that hole is.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
And that’s where his body of motion.
SPEAKER 08 :
OK, so you’re telling me that before we go on, Marty, have you ever shot a live animal? Have you ever killed an animal? Have you ever shot an animal?
SPEAKER 13 :
I’ve shot at, but never with intent to kill.
SPEAKER 08 :
Then Marty conversation over. And this is for everybody else listening. If you’ve never shot a live animal and seen the reaction of what happens when you kill something, and I’ve never killed a human, but when you’ve never done that, I’m sorry, Marty, shut up. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Period. There’s no conversation here because you’ve never seen what I’ve seen and experienced for myself when you kill something. And what I’m going at with this is all sorts of things happen. Marty, when you kill someone, that body changes. changes. There’s different things that can tense up. It could have been tensed up prior to the shot happening. There are so many explanations that if you’ve never been through that and seen it for yourself, don’t talk about it.
SPEAKER 13 :
That’s not fair, John.
SPEAKER 08 :
It is fair, Marty, because you don’t know. You’ve never seen what I’ve seen, so you can’t talk about it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, well, I don’t have firsthand. I’ve certainly seen animals killed on video and, of course, a thousand times over. John, I’m not a structural engineer or took an engineering class, but I know Building 7 didn’t fall down like that on its own accord. So we don’t have to have firsthand experience to understand that bullet hole in no way came from a direct strike. Straight on.
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SPEAKER 11 :
Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. All right, we are back.
SPEAKER 08 :
Soren, what’s up, sir?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, not much. But I was talking to all my police officer friends, and they said that they watched the video multiple times over. And from what they saw, it looked like it hit body armor and then bounced up into the neck and went straight to the brain.
SPEAKER 08 :
That could be, too. And again, that one, Soren, I don’t have all of the answers to. I mean, I saw what I saw on camera. It’s extremely difficult to, especially with the picture quality that I had, maybe they’ve got better quality images that they’re looking at. I don’t have an opinion on that one way or the other. That would not shock me if that were the case.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, because if you said if he was that bad of a shot, it could have hit down way lower.
SPEAKER 08 :
Could have. And I think he was, Soren. I mean, I think that it was, well, again, everything I believe, you know me, I believe everything is providential. I don’t think anything is by chance. And in this particular situation, you know, was he allowed to take Charlie’s life? I believe that he was, yes. And at the end of the day, he was extremely lucky because he darn near missed.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
That’s my theory. And so, as you know, Soren, really quick, just to make sure I put this out here, do I believe all of these conspiracy or any of these conspiracy theories that are out there running around now? Do I trust government? You guys all know my feeling on that, and no, I do not. But at the end of the day, do I think there was another shooter and that somehow the CIA, FBI, whoever, whoever, whoever, some other three-letter agency was involved in taking out Charlie Kirk? No, Soren, I do not believe that. yeah and it would be very hard to believe that saying that every cabinet agent spoke at his funeral yesterday um i think internally in this current administration there are very few individuals that didn’t like charlie and didn’t like what he did in the simple fact that he was very instrumental in having this president elected in the first place those that have those jobs wouldn’t have it without trump being there in the first place yeah soren i have a hard time believing that any of them would want him taken out now I get it. There’s other deep state players that are out there and so on. And I’m not saying that everybody inside of government is by any means soaring a good guy because there’s a lot of bad guys. But in this particular case, yeah, no, I don’t think that anybody other than that particular individual, who I don’t want to even name his name because I don’t want to give him any credit, especially since he’s still alive. I do believe that he did this on his own.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, from looking at it, that’s about all the conclusion you can have.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and if you look at Soren, the disturbed nature of this particular individual, the relationship that he had with his boyfriend, now wanting to be the girlfriend, or whatever twisted, wicked, weird thing that is, and you just look at… how this particular individual starts to think along those lines in the hatred that ends up happening inside of the heart. I mean, I look at this, Soren, as simply being good versus evil. And I’m not going to say evil won, because if you look at what happened yesterday, evil hasn’t won. Was there a slight setback and a change of direction? Absolutely. But evil didn’t win, Soren.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, in fact, it looks from the way everything went yesterday that evil might have taken us one step back for a week, and now we’re ten steps forward.
SPEAKER 08 :
Correct. Absolutely, Soren. And as I said, even the day of Charlie’s assassination, God can take something that’s bad, something that’s evil, and turn it the other way around, and that’s exactly what he’s done here. That’s the plus side, even for a lot of young people listening right now.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, well… What has happened in these past 11 days or 12 days has been more than probably Charlie did in his entire life.
SPEAKER 08 :
Soren, I don’t know that I can argue with that. When you look at there was 100 million people streaming that particular service yesterday, that’s the estimates that I read before coming on air, plus the 100,000 people that were there live and the countless others that you probably can’t even count that will go back in and even rewatch things like I will because I didn’t see it live. At the end of the day, Soren, millions upon millions upon millions of people’s lives were affected by him.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, well, like even my family, you know, my mom and my dad were like, oh, I’d never heard of Charlie Kirk until just a couple weeks ago.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 10 :
And now they’re going through and watching a lot of his old stuff.
SPEAKER 08 :
There you go. Great example. Great example, Soren. Well, I appreciate you calling in, Soren, because I, you know, you’re sort of, you know, reiterating some of what I was saying. I’m going to squeeze one more call in, Soren. I appreciate it very much. We’re getting close to the top of the hour. Charlie, I’ll move our last break so we know we have enough time. John, go ahead. I think Marty might need to get back on his meds.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I know you can’t say that or agree with me, but I can’t.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and I love all of our callers, and I know every one of them comes from different places, John. But, you know, on the same token, I’m not going to entertain things, especially when folks don’t have the real expertise and or facts. And I’m not trying to belittle anybody, John, but when you’ve never killed an animal and watched what happens when you actually kill something that’s alive and then it’s now no longer alive, it’s dead now. And in the case even of some of the animals that I have shot with things like a 7mm mag, which is very similar to a .30-06, by the way, and you look at the entrance wound going through, I’ve shot deer and elk in the neck, by the way, and when you look at the entrance wound and the exit wound, John, there’s not a lot, I mean, there’s not a lot of, I mean, they’re dead, but to think for a second that you’ve blown the animal’s head off because you shot it with a high-power rifle, it just doesn’t work that way, John, as you know. No, it doesn’t.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I’ve seen it. But, you know, a couple of quick things. One, he was shooting at an angle. So you don’t know if that was just he nicked him just right in the neck to open up that carotid artery, which is what it was. My daughter, who is a Navy, retired Navy corpsman, combat medic for the Navy Marine Corps. gets their medics from the Navy, as everybody knows. She said that she saw that video and she said if there was a combat surgeon right there with the right equipment, he had a 50% chance of living. That was it. Because there was so much blood that came out. But it could have just been a neck. And where did, you know, did they find the bullet? I don’t know that. I didn’t hear that.
SPEAKER 08 :
I haven’t heard that either.
SPEAKER 12 :
You know, with the other guy saying his old grandpa’s rifle. Do you know that in the military, when I was in with an M16A1, we qualified with iron sights up to 300 meters, and most guys, once you learned how to shoot properly, could hit with no problem at 300 meters.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. So you take and put a scope on that now, and the game even changes further, John.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, but if you could shoot 300 meters with iron sights and you take a rifle with a scope at, what was it, 200 yards? 150 yards, roughly. 150, 200 yards? That’s not a hard shot to make.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, John, I could take, even when I was about 12 years of age, I could take my dad’s .30-06, which he had. I still have that rifle today. I could take that same rifle with a pie plate at 100 yards at 12 years old and hit it all day long.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, because… And this kid learned how to shoot at a young age of everything that came out, his family’s hunters and stuff. Once you learn how to shoot correctly and you have the right habits, you can make that shot. That’s not a hard shot to make. No, it’s not. No, I just am glad that it was over. And by the way, John, I didn’t watch the Charlie Kirk thing either, and I saw everything I needed to know this morning. on X in about a half hour. But the other thing, I was going to bring this up Friday, but Friday is a soft day. Did you see the Archbishop of New York, Cardinal Dolan’s comments on Fox and Friends and how they’re crucifying him on the air?
SPEAKER 08 :
I did not see him, no.
SPEAKER 12 :
If you have a chance during the break, just Google Cardinal Dolan on X or search it on X. It’s about a minute and a half interview, and he compared Charlie Kirk to a modern-day St. Paul, and left has lost their mind.
SPEAKER 08 :
Wow. I did not know that.
SPEAKER 12 :
It’s a really good, and it’s only about, you could probably watch it during the break.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. All right. I’ll do my best to do that, John. Appreciate you very much. Nope, that’s where we’re at. We’ll take a break. We’ll come back here in a moment. Don’t go anywhere. Hour number two is next. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 1 :
Thank you.
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