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Join Kim Monson as she dives into pivotal discussions surrounding rights and governance through the lens of freedom versus force. With riveting insights on local and global politics, Kim challenges listeners to ponder whether governmental policies support true freedom or edge closer to control. Through anecdotes and real-life examples, this episode delves into the controversy surrounding community planning and the importance of maintaining transparency and citizen engagement.
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That seems to me like government is establishing a religion.
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Indeed. Let’s have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body, my friends. We were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Tuesday, Producer Joe. Happy Tuesday, Kim. And you and producer Luke will be our featured guest in our number two. We’re continuing our book discussion of The Prince by Machiavelli. So I’m very excited about that. I really appreciate the two of you, you young whippersnappers that are willing to have these conversations, Joe.
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I really do appreciate it. It’s like Colonel Rutledge says, always take the chance to learn something new.
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Here you have a 27-year-old quoting a 97-year-old. I love that. That’s the way it’s supposed to be. So we’ve got a great show planned for you, so buckle up. Thank you to the Harris family for their gold sponsorship to make all of this happen. Check out our website. While you’re there, make sure that you are signed up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at kim at kimmonson.com. Text line is 720-605-0647. I do want to hear from you as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity. As we look at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it’s never compassionate nor altruistic to take other people’s stuff, whether or not it’s their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunity, childhoods or lives. I was just thinking about this. The World Economic Forum. They basically are about global control, this global agenda. And I was over in Centennial yesterday, a little neighborhood that the city of Centennial has used resources. So that would be manpower, paint, those little turtle things for bike lanes, and then kind of the pylons. to put, to basically, they’re calling it road diet. And I think what they’re trying to do is to condition us to be compliant with this overreaching agenda. People like freedom of mobility. So I was talking with someone in the neighborhood, and the neighborhood’s very up in arms about it. All this stuff just appeared one day. But again, remember, it’s resources, manpower, paint, buying the supplies, and they really overdid it. Neighbors are not happy. And so they need to go to city council and talk with them about it. But one of the neighbors said, I’ve not seen one bike in those bike lanes ever. And so, again, but this is the agenda of the World Economic Forum, which we thought it was at the United Nations, but we’re seeing it now in these neighborhoods. Another example is Littleton. Yesterday, we had Joe Whitney on with Rooted in Littleton. And the Littleton City Council and mayor are pushing this agenda of density, density, which Jared Polis is doing at the state level. He’s saying, oh, no, no, you local jurisdictions, you can’t figure out about your own neighborhoods. The state is if you don’t do what we want, the state’s going to make a law, which they did. And there are several jurisdictions that have filed suit against that. But in fact, Littleton, the mayor, the current mayor and city council are doubling down. Okay. So the citizens take the time from their businesses, their families, which we’ve got to be doing this, my friends, and watch what’s going on. But they came together and they said, we want to get a ballot question out on the ballot to our neighbors. Do we want all this density or would we like to protect our neighborhoods, our way of life? Well, amazing. The city council and the mayor and the staff of Littleton are using your resources in Littleton, the taxes you pay, to sue, to keep the question off the ballot. They don’t even want to let the people have a chance at having a voice. Do you not see that there’s something wrong with that picture? I certainly do. So with that, it’s not compassionate or altruistic to take other people’s stuff. That’s the bottom line. And we talk about these issues all the time, searching for truth and clarity. And our litmus test is freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Socialism is not about free stuff. Ultimately, that’s the carrot to get people to vote for it. But socialism has to come down to force because it’s a bad idea. And if something’s a bad idea, you have to use force for it. But if something’s a good idea, you don’t have to use force to implement it. You can engage in the battle of ideas. And we’ve gotten a bit lazy with soundbites and media. And I feel a hunger. for people to learn more. I think that Charlie Kirk and what he was doing, talking to young people, people are hungry for truth. And that’s why we search for that every day on the show. We do focus on the issues, not the personalities, but we will talk about the people that are pushing those issues. So to give you an update, yesterday I went through the next proof of of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers ratings report, the cut report. And I think that hopefully will go to print today. Our board meeting is next Monday night. So I hope to have that to deliver to my fellow board members. And at this point, I do want to say thank you. to my fellow board members, which are Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onazorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. These people are amazing. They give so much of their time to go through, and I think that we rated, or we went through and took positions on 273 pieces of legislation. This ratings report that we are putting together is a monumental piece of work as far as it’s gone through on those 273 pieces of legislation and then rated all of the legislators on how they voted with our votes. Our goals and what are our goals to protect the taxpayer. And if you live in Colorado, if you buy anything, sales tax, you drive a car, there’s taxes and fees. So we’re representing you. Protecting Tabor, Colorado’s Taxpayers Bill of Rights. There are those on both sides of the aisle that are after that. Parental rights. And property rights. And so stay tuned. Next thing, the ballots are going to be mailed on Friday. And the other project I’m working on is the voter’s guide. And it is extensive. We will be taking positions on the two questions on the state ballot. And then I will be analyzing the vibrant Denver ballot. bond package which is just south of a billion dollars and i can tell you i’d recommend no but i’ll tell you why in the voters guide and so we will have that rolling out this sunday in the newsletter and The other thing, if you are interested in having a speaker regarding the elections and the election questions, we have – there are several on the Colorado Union of Taxpayers Board that have – have said that they will be part of a speaker’s bureau. And so there’s two ways you could request that. You could go to the CUT website, which is coloradotaxpayer.org, and you can put in something regarding the media request there, or you can text me on my text line at 720-605-0647. But again, we’ve got Speaker’s Bureau for you regarding the questions on the ballot. And then there are also a number of school board races and city council and mayor races. And I’d recommend that you go to the website for each of those entities and find out who those candidates are and contact them and ask them where they stand on freedom versus force. Do they want bigger government, or do they think government should be in a limited role so that individuals have more money in their pockets, more freedom to go after their hopes and dreams? Those are the bottom line questions that I would recommend that you ask. Next thing, I am reading Jonathan Turley’s book, Freedom of Speech in an Age of Rage, The Indispensable Right. And so I’m coming up with a lot of great words of the day. And then also, Joe, as I’m reading The Prince, I was doing our homework for The Prince. I came up with four potential words of the day. Now, the trick is for me to be able to pronounce them all. So that’s also the challenge. Quit laughing. But the word of the day today is inimical. It’s I-N-I-M-I-C-A-L, inimical, and it could be injurious or harmful in effect or adverse, unfriendly or hostile, or having the disposition or temper of an enemy, unfriendly, unfavorable, chiefly applied to private or as hostile to public enmity. And I would say that looking at the mayor of Littleton and the city council and the bureaucrats over there, that they are inimical to the voters there in Littleton. So your choice. The challenge is to use inimical in a sentence today. It shouldn’t be that difficult. Our quote of the day, I was looking for creator quotes, because we’ll be talking with Mark Monson here soon, and he has created a board game. And Being creative, again, it’s the foundation of the American idea, the sanctity of the individual, creativity, property rights, all those things. So I was looking for creative quotes, and I found this by Charles Dickens. And I thought it was a great quote. As you know, he wrote The Christmas Carol. He was born in 1812. He died in 1870. He was an English novelist, journalist, short story writer, and social critic. He created some of literature’s best-known fictional characters and is regarded by many as the greatest novelist of the Victorian era. His works enjoyed unprecedented popularity during his lifetime, and by the 20th century, critics and scholars had recognized him as a literary genius. And he said this, I thought that was a great quote. A couple of headlines. First thing, Portland, this is crazyville. This is from Newsmax. I don’t know, well, I guess we probably can’t figure out how it happened. It was the radical activists that have taken over the Democrat Party and has turned Portland, which it’s been a long time since I’ve been to Portland. It was a neat city when I was there. But it says, Trump said to Newsmax, Portland unrest is pure insurrection. And he said this ongoing lawlessness in Portland, Oregon, amounts to pure insurrection, blasting local Democrat leaders for failing to maintain order and protect citizens. He’s absolutely spot on. He said speaking Monday night on Greg Kelly reports, Trump said the chaos in Portland. See, there’s that word chaos, which that is Marxism, communism. They want chaos and destruction instead of order and creation. And Trump said this has dragged on for far too long and accused Oregon officials of turning a blind eye to the destruction. And ultimately, the people have got to vote these people out of office and reclaim their communities. One other thing I wanted to mention, and yesterday we had Jan Jekielek on with the Epoch Times regarding the Chinese Communist Party. And the organ harvesting of prisoners. And this came in. They didn’t identify who they were. But this came in and it says, I was recently put on a mental hold. health hold in Colorado at Anschutz. Even though I declined organ donation on my driver’s license, I was presented with an intake form that stated I agreed to donate my organs to University of Colorado at Anschutz. And she went on to say, or she or he, I don’t know, I’m concerned that getting a mental health diagnosis makes a person vulnerable to a myriad of abuses, including organ donation. Okay, now let me connect this dot over here to the fact that we’ve got some of these health clinics on school grounds where, and all this mental health evaluation on our kids. Can you not see this could become a problem? It says, incidentally, my mental health hold cost the taxpayers $30,000 as I am on Medicare. And so I thought that was important to share with you. These discussions happen because of all of our sponsors. And I did want to mention Hooters Restaurants. They’ve been great sponsors of both the Kim Monson Show and America’s Veterans Stories for many years. How I got to know them? 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There’s so much noise coming at us. Sometimes it is difficult to make sense of it all. How can you sift through the clamor for your attention and get to the truth? The Kim Monson Show is here to help. Kim searches for truth and clarity by examining issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Tune in to the Kim Monson Show each weekday, 6 to 8 a.m. with encores 1 to 2 p.m. and 10 to 11 p.m. on KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM. The KLZ website, the KLZ app, and Alexa. Play KLZ. Shows can also be found at KimMonson.com, Spotify, and iTunes.
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Hi, Kim. Thanks for having me.
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And so, Mark, tell us a little bit about your creative journey.
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Yeah, so about five years ago, I… had this idea for, you know, I was just kind of hanging out with some friends and, um, you know, we kind of started thinking about board games and stuff and I kind of had a spark of creativity and then, um, you know, after working really hard to get all the rules situated and stuff, then kind of came the big work of trying to develop it, um, publish it and get it shipped over here, um, to America so that we can, you know, start sharing it with everybody else.
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Okay, so that sounds like maybe it was not manufactured here. So tell us a little bit about that.
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Yeah, so kind of I decided to do everything myself, which obviously with many things you don’t realize how much work goes into it until after you’re halfway into it. But I ended up going with a manufacturer in China just – Because, you know, for a cost basis and everything. But then, oh, about three months later, while everything was getting built, the tariffs came through. So, you know, I’ve always been somebody who said the president rarely enacts laws that affect you. And I ended up getting hit by that. So, but, you know, it’s. That’s just the cost of doing business. Now that everything is here, it’s been really fun to market and show everybody the game.
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Okay. Tell us about the game.
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The game is a one versus many.
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Is it a good versus evil, or what?
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You could say it’s good versus evil. some one person will be playing the the bad guys and one and then the rest of the people will team up to play as the good guys and basically the bad guy makes an army and tries to stop the good guys from doing whatever they need to do on on each of the maps and everything that you play on okay well and what’s the name of the game the game is called legend of the eight isles and where can people find it or purchase it Yep. So currently it’s just on the website at legendofthe8isles.com. You can order a special edition that I’ll ship out directly to you. And then probably here in the next couple of months we’ll be listing on Amazon as well once kind of everything gets situated on that.
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Okay. So tell us a little bit about the characters and how you came up with those.
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Yeah, so one of the characters actually is based off of my dog. She’s now immortalized in a board game, so she’s a lot of fun to play with. The kids usually like to see all the characters because most of them are based off of animals and stuff. Kids like to choose their favorite animal and then they can play and figure out how to get through the game and everything.
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Okay. What’s the age range on it?
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The age range, you kind of have to ignore what’s listed on the box. I would say that any children from eight plus would be able to play without any help or anything. And then that runs all the way up to adults and everything. I’ve played with a whole bunch of my adult friends, and we’ve had a lot of fun.
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Okay. And it’s Legend of the Eight Isles, correct? That’s where people can find it?
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Yep, legendofthe8isles.com. You can also just Google search that, and you’ll see plenty of places where the game will be listed.
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Now, I can’t believe it, but we are into October, which means that Christmas and Hanukkah are right around the corner. And there are people that like to be organized and get their shopping done early. I think this is a really great gift for Christmas, birthdays, and Hanukkah, and particularly for young people. Again, I see so many young people on their phones. We’re all on our phones. And this disconnecting to reconnect, I think we’re on to something there.
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Yeah, I think one thing that people just, when you don’t talk directly to people, you know, you don’t really treat them as people if you’re just talking to them, you know, through a screen or something like that. Well, some people. I try to teach it. Definitely, definitely. But it definitely breeds nastiness and stuff like that. And we just don’t need that in our world anymore right now. So this is a way that people can get together, have fun together, laugh and learn about each other and just have a good time.
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Yeah, I think it really knocks down barriers. And I think that there are so many agendas out there that have created barriers. And so I think this is amazing. But this has been quite the journey from an idea to having a website that you’re selling a product. It has been quite the journey. You went through COVID on it. It’s been really quite a journey for you, yes?
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Yep. Yep. So we actually started with a Kickstarter and we fully funded on Kickstarter.com, which was super helpful to kind of get us off the ground just as basically a solo game publisher. But once we kind of had that little bit of capital, we’ve been able to. you know use that to um get better designs for you know all the cards in the game um and just you know really load the the board game up with a whole bunch of cool stuff for everybody to to play with and crazy so okay mark monson last question my personality is not one that really likes to sit down and like play monopoly some long game i’m more of a yahtzee crazy eight kind of person what about me can is this a game that you think that i would enjoy is it hard to learn is there too much strategy or what do you think well luckily it’s one of those games that um starts out you know you can just kind of just play as the the one character so it’s you know you only have a few things that you can do so there’s not a lot to learn um And then, you know, kind of the complexity comes with how you’re playing with your friends and stuff. So it’s super simple. It’s super quick. You can play, you know, a session in 15, 20 minutes, or, you know, you can play all night and play through each of the levels in the game and everything, you know, which will take, you know, four or five hours if you wanted to. But, you know, that was one of the things that I wanted to be able to have people drop in and drop out, you know, because everybody’s got busy schedules and everything.
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Cool. Okay. Again, how can people find the game?
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Yep. So at legendofthe8isles.com.
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And eight spelled out?
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Yep. Okay. Legend of the Eight Isles with eight spelled out. And you can just Google that as well. You’ll see it show up there.
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Okay. Well, get your Christmas and Hanukkah shopping done early. That’s Legend of the Eight Isles. And Mark Monson, thank you so much. I wish you all kinds of good luck.
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Thanks a lot, Kim.
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Okay. And boy, there’s so many exciting things going on out there. And I just love the creativity of so many of these young people. I just think that it is totally fantastic. And we have these discussions because of our sponsors. And if you’re buying a home or selling a home, looking new build, you’ll want to talk with Karen Levine.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And also check out the Center for American Values. It is a nonprofit that I totally love to feature on the show. The center is located in Pueblo on the Riverwalk. They have have beautiful portraits of valor honoring our Medal of Honor recipients, but also all kinds of educational programs. And they are going to have an On Values presentation on October 20th with Norma Donlan. She was married to… Roger Dodlin, who was a Medal of Honor recipient. In fact, I think he was the first Medal of Honor recipient of the Vietnam War. So that’s going to be on October 20th. And then also we had Drew Dix on last week, Medal of Honor recipient and a co-founder of the Center. And he has a great new podcast series, Words from the Silo. You can find all of that information at AmericanValueCenter.org. And I’m pleased to have on the line with me Bob Boswell. He is the CEO of Laramie Energy. They are valued partners of the show. And we talk about it on a regular basis. Reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant power. It really empowers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate. The industry that provides that, those industries have been under attack from a legislative, regulatory standpoint, particularly here in Colorado, of course in California as well. But in the Biden-Harris administration as well. And so we’re seeing things change on a federal level. So wanted to talk with Bob Boswell about that first. Bob Boswell, welcome to the show.
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Thanks, Kim. It’s great to join you this morning.
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Well, there’s on a federal level, I think there’s exciting things happening for everyday people, because if we have reliable, efficient, affordable and abundant power, then we can be creative. We can take care of our families. We can create businesses. And that has been under attack. And it looks like the Trump administration is trying to change that. What do you see?
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Well, you’re exactly right, Kim. Seventy percent of the lands in Colorado are federal. That means that these lands belong to the public as do the minerals. What we’ve had in Colorado is an administration that has consistently fought development of our natural resources in the state to the detriment of the people of the state. They changed our regulatory guidelines to the ECMC, which is more about environmental than it is constructive development of the resources of the state. And they’ve put excessive regulations, some do put these, some completely unnecessary, that has really stifled development in the state of Colorado. And it’s particularly critical at this time with the development of data centers which requires significant and continuous, consistent, reliable power. And that source, the most reliable source, is natural gas. Colorado’s fortune is it’s the sixth richest endowed state in terms of natural gas and oil. The Peons Basin in itself, which is western Colorado, has some 66 TCF of developed natural gas resources, and it has been stifled by the regulatory regime of the last several years. And as evidence of it, if you look at Virginia, which is not a state with rich natural gas resources, 70 different data centers are either underway or under consideration for development. Texas has three. The state of Colorado, I mean, Texas has over 100. The state of Colorado has maybe three that are under consideration, but again, the regulatory issues are stifling the development of these data centers to the detriment of the state of Colorado. These rules and regulations have consequences, and they’re certainly manifesting themselves right now.
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So, Bob, I’m not sure I’m totally sold on all of these data centers because I’m concerned that they’re going to be getting all this data on us. I like the convenience. I don’t really use AI that much, but I like it when I have a word that’s misspelled and I get a correction on that, and then I try to mentally learn that. But what I find, so I’m a little concerned about that. And what I find so interesting is that we’ve seen on an individual basis regulations and rules and taxes that have really increased the cost of reliable, affordable, abundant, and efficient energy sources for everyday people. We’ve seen our electric bills go up. And then all of a sudden, all these data centers and I don’t seem to be hearing a word about those that used to say, hey, we’ve got to conserve energy. I don’t hear a word about anybody from anybody on that, Bob.
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Well, I think there’s two considerations. Artificial intelligence is a terrific tool for mankind, and it’s also an important element in consideration of national security and economic development. The second component is that it needs to be managed, and I think Sam Altman, who’s one of the principal directors um gurus of of artificial intelligence has come out and said it’s important we manage this artificial intelligence properly you know we have the proper protocols and there’s been a book written recently called the coming wave and it it’s about this very same thing that the importance of this development of artificial intelligence is is properly managed. The second component is artificial intelligence will be developed globally, whether the United States does it or not. We have a significant head start versus China and others, and that is important from a national security standpoint. And we need to be able to develop and manage AI for the benefit of the United States and mankind. But it does require tremendous amounts of energy. And the most consistent, reliable is natural gas. data centers need to run 99.5% of the time, and they have tremendous power requirements. That power requirement cannot be supplied by wind or solar, which are intermittent, which require storage, and we don’t have sufficient storage for more than a day or two of the normal grid when you put artificial intelligence or data centers in place, the demand is significantly higher. So if we are going to develop this science and this opportunity, it’s important that it be managed, but it’s important that we have good, consistent, reliable, affordable power. And when you think about it, Kim, I read an article the other day that talked about the six richest companies in America, and they’re all tech companies, the ones you’d expect, Microsoft, Amazon. These companies are valuing the trillions of dollars. The top six are more valuable than the combined value of the utility industry in the United States. So they are going to be developing these data centers. They are less concerned about the price of power as they are to the availability. And so for this development to occur, we need to open up the development of our natural resources. We need to have a framework within the utility industry that we have a grid that’s developed and that the price to consumers is affordable and reliable as the Data centers are not that sensitive to the price of power. So it’s going to be a complex regulatory management consideration that is certainly under consideration right now. But the most important thing is that this is coming, and we need to manage it appropriately.
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Yeah, that managing thing is, I think, spot on. Just one other thing before we go to break is you mentioned this, and we do every day when we’re saying thank you about reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant power sources for everyday people. So these big companies are looking for reliable power sources. It sounds like you think if we could get our natural resources unencumbered by all these regulations, that that will trickle down to more affordable power for everyday people as they live their lives. What we’re seeing is our electric prices are going up from Excel. And so it looks like we could get this turned around, yes? Yes.
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Well, we can. I mean, the prices are going up for Mixcel. Part of that’s the mandate for renewables. Governor Post recently has recognized the importance of the development, I think, in the state of Colorado. But he’s really being fought from his own – within his own – Democratic body. We’ve seen the EMC get particularly tough on things that aren’t even within their purview of regulatory requirements. It’s more of a political attitude than it is a You know, trying to put in the best policies that allow us to develop our resources. So there’s a lot of different things going on right now. And it’s going to be important for the state of Colorado that we… manage this properly, we take down the regulatory barriers. And frankly, since 70% of the lands in Colorado are federal, I think the federal government is going to do it. Between the state and the federal government, there’s a memorandum of understanding, or MOU. And in the past, the federal government has worked with the state on these regulations, but under the Biden administration, they went so far. that I think now the federal government’s going to renegotiate that memorandum of understanding with the state to allow us to develop the resources on the public lands.
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Wow, that is going to be big. So we’re going to continue the discussion with Bob Boswell. He is the CEO of Laramie Energy. I do thank them for their sponsorship of the show. These discussions happen because of our sponsors, and another great sponsor is John Bozen with Bozen Law.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That’s Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter there. You can text me at 720-605-0647. I do want to hear from you. And the USMC Memorial is located right here in Golden, Colorado. It is the official Marine Memorial. And Paula Sarles, who is the president of the foundation and her team, are raising money for the remodel and also taking care of the memorial. And Veterans Day is right around the corner. And a great way to say thank you is to support the USMC Memorial Foundation. You can do that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. We’re talking with Bob Boswell. He is the CEO of Laramie Energy. And Bob, you said something regarding… Wind and solar. You said they require storage. And it has come to my attention on some massive industrial wind projects that are proposed up in Wyoming. One of them is 56,000 acres. Another is 46,000 acres. That is a tremendous amount of land. just to do the generation it doesn’t include the transmission lines nor you mentioned storage so match this up for me oil and gas and coal there are they’re dense energy sources so they don’t take up a lot of land right but wind and solar takes up a lot of land comparatively yes
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Well that’s that’s true the footprint is, but you know they’re large areas in Wyoming, particularly that are right for development, the wind corridors good and women and solar are supplements they’re not replacements. for reliable power. But they are certainly supplements. We need to develop them. We need to develop them intelligently. But they need to be recognized as supplements, not replacements. And that’s the issue in the state of Colorado with the current administration’s goal of having us completely renewables by 2040. So it won’t happen simply because the storage won’t be there and the power demands are such that wind and solar can’t provide that on a consistent basis with the known storage technologies today. And there’s not much on the horizon that says they can store massive amounts of energy for a prolonged period of time. So that’s really the issue. It’s not whether or not we develop wind and solar. There is a question of whether we need to supplement it at the cost of the American public. It should be competitive with different sources of energy, coal and gas. And gas and oil the same. They should be on even footing for development. So I’m in favor of developing wind and solar, but it needs to be recognized as a supplement, not a replacement.
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Okay, so I’ve been talking, and she’s going to be on the show on Thursday, Virginia Maka, and she was the founder of Stand for the Land Kansas. And we were talking, and she was trying to explain to me baseload power, which I think that means it’s the reliable power that is provided by oil, natural gas, and coal. And if an economy… tries to move away from having that baseload, then challenging things can happen. Talk to me a little bit about baseload power.
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Well, baseload is the normal power that would be expected to be delivered under consistent weather. When you have exceptionally cold weather or exceptionally hot weather, they have peaking demands. And that is demands above what would be your base load. So you have to build a power system that can respond to peak loads. peak load to supply the power in the state of Texas. It cost multiple billion dollars in damages. They had to buy power from other states, which put stress on the demand of the overall system and caused the cost to rise significantly for three or four days. So you’ve got your base power and you’ve got your peak demand, and that’s the difference.
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Okay, so next question, and you mentioned storage, and so I’m just a regular citizen on this, but storage for wind and solar, so if you produce power from natural gas or coal or oil, that… That energy is there, right? You don’t have to go and store it someplace. Is that right? But wind and solar, you have to go store that someplace. Is that right?
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, yes. I mean, wind and solar, because it’s intermittent, has to have storage. And there is storage that’s built into these systems, but the storage is battery-powered. Lithium is the primary storage source. of energy and batteries. And that only supplies it for one to two days at best. So if you’ve got a cold spell that’s over one or two days, which we do frequently or excessive heat, that storage is not sufficient to even hit the base load. So the difference between natural gas and coal is that you have it in a dense factor. It’s stored naturally. And when it’s needed, it can be pulled.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. And you just mentioned the word naturally. And I’ve had people challenge me on a regular basis to not refer to oil, natural gas, and coal as fossil fuels, but to refer to them as naturally occurring hydrocarbons. And in fact, I’d had Robert Bryce on the show, and he said that he always refers to those as hydrocarbons. And language is important. And I like the term naturally occurring. I like the term natural because I think we need to take back some of the language in this whole energy discussion that we have, Bob.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, Robert is one of the best examples of knowledge and expertise. And I think the way he qualifies it is really the appropriate way. It’s hydrocarbons. And by that, he means hydrocarbon chains, which consist of… of carbon, it consists of hydrogen, it can consist of oxygen, and it consists of other elements, some of which are small in proportion but need to be dealt with in terms of cleaning the process and taking some of these hydrocarbon chains out, which are more like benzene and some of the other naturally occurring elements that are small but in part of a hydrocarbon chain. And those are generally taken out in the process of using these fuels for electrification.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. And so, Bob, we’ve got a couple of minutes left. And I think my last question is, on these federal lands in Colorado, I know that this governor and this legislature has tried to stifle things that happen on the federal lands. Which do you think is going to take precedence?
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, primacy is with federal, so I would suspect the federal will. The federal government will work with the state, and I think the state has tried to, as much as anything, regulate. the production of hydrocarbons, but they’ve gone to an extreme. And they’ve used it as a political foil, using climate change as a barometer of what we should do and not do. One of the main things they’re worried about is CO2. As most people know, or I think, CO2 is a naturally occurring element in the chain of photosynthesis. And it’s important that we have CO2. That’s nature’s natural fertilizer for plant growth. And, you know, today I think we’re at 400 parts per million CO2. We could go up to 1,000 and the earth would be the greenest. So we’ve got a long way to go before it’s really an issue. But it’s used as a foil politically, you know, to try to have different, Ideologues elected or different policies put into place that really inhibit the growth and the use of fossil fuels.
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Which are hydrocarbons. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I know. Habits are tough to break. Bob Boswell, this is always so informative. I really appreciate it. I appreciate the conversations that we have around this. And I will also mention climateconversation.com, which is the documentary I was involved with. Walt Johnson is working on the sequel. It’s totally his project. So check that out at climateconversation.com. As always, Bob Boswell, I learned so much. ceo of laramie energy thank you so much we’ll talk again next month thank you kim And our quote for the end of the show, I went to Charles Dickens, and he said this. He said, my advice is never to do tomorrow what you can do today. Procrastination is the thief of time. And so, my friends, today be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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indeed let’s have a conversation welcome to our number two of the kim monson show thank you so much for joining us you each are treasured you’re valued you have purpose today strive for excellence take care of your heart your soul your mind and your body my friends we were made for this moment in history thank you to the team that’s producer joe luke rachel zach echo charlie mike theresa amanda and all the people here at crawford broadcasting happy tuesday producer joe happy tuesday kim and are you ready for our book review I think so. And we’ve got producer Luke in studio as well for our discussion, book discussion on The Prince by Niccolo Machiavelli.
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I’m here. Hello. Thank you for having me.
SPEAKER 14 :
It’s good. Yeah. You have to come in a little earlier for this one. Yes.
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Yes. Not used to waking up, so a little fuzzy, but I got some coffee and I’m ready to go.
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Okay. Well, we’ll get into it here in just a little bit. First of all, I want to say thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. And then getting over to our word of the day, I am reading Jonathan Turley’s book, The Indispensable Right, Freedom of Speech in the Age of Rage. And he says, we are in an age of rage right now, but we’ve been in an age of rage before. And so very interesting book and some great words that I can use for word of the day. And this is inimical. It’s I-N-I-M-I-C-A-L. It could be injurious or harmful, ineffective or adverse. Number two, unfriendly or hostile. Number three, having the disposition or temper of an enemy, unfriendly, unfavorable, chiefly applied to private, as hostile to the public. And I used inimical in a sentence today as I was looking at this issue in Littleton, where the Littleton mayor, city council, and the staff, the bureaucrats, have basically sued the citizens with citizens’ money to try to keep a question off the ballot. I would say that the Littleton mayor and city council and the bureaucrats there are inimical to the citizen. So your challenge is to use the word inimical in a sentence today. Our quote of the day, I was looking for creation quotes because we had Mark Monson on in our number one regarding his board game that he’s created. You can purchase that and get more information by going to Legend of the Eight Isles. But I went to Charles Dickens, born in 1812, died in 1870. And he wrote A Christmas Carol, among other literary works there. But he said this, the whole difference between construction and creation is exactly this, that a thing constructed can only be loved after it’s constructed. But a thing created is loved before it exists. And gosh, I was just thinking about the creator. I think he loved us even before we existed. And so connect that dot there. Let’s see, other things that I wanted to make sure that, oh, today the Supreme Court is to hear this conversion therapy ban challenge regarding therapists not being able to present both options on genders that only if someone comes in for therapy, they can only move people towards gender transition. So that is a big deal. Pray over that. And that will be at the Supreme Court today. And I mentioned in the first hour, Portland is, Trump has said Portland is in pure insurrection. The responsibility of that comes right down to their local government, as well as the state government. But where the real responsibility is, is the citizen, where we go to the voting box to say what we want. And the question is, are the people in Portland going to continue to vote for destruction and chaos? Or are they going to start to vote for order and creativity so i think that’s the big question there on that i did want to mention little richie’s uh you you talk about a great calzone it is little richie’s from parker to golden little richie’s pizza and pasta is your go-to for real new york style pizza hearty pastas and that unbeatable local vibe Little Richie’s is serving up daily specials, quick and tasty weekday lunch deals, and a happy hour the locals actually build their plans around. So whether you’re bringing the crew, catching up with friends, or flying solo for a hot slice, Little Richie’s is your neighborhood hangout. And I work with amazing sponsors, and they all strive for excellence. We have one of those sponsors on the line with us, and that’s John Bozen with Bozen Law. And we’re up for his weekly update. John Bozen, welcome to the show.
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Well, and I love their calzones. It is great. So, yeah, Little Richies is guaranteed. And I love Italian food. There’s something about Italian food, John Mosen.
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No, it’s not. The food by itself, in itself, is enough to get over here for us. So it’s what I’m hearing.
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But we can go to Little Richie’s.
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Absolutely. So let’s talk about business, though. If someone has been injured or if you’ve been injured on the job, talk to me a little bit about workers’ compensation.
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Yeah, in addition to the motor vehicle collisions and all the other things that can cause people harm, we do help and represent people that are injured on the job working when they get hurt, working within the course and scope of their employment when they get hurt. And I talk to a lot of folks on a regular basis who get hurt on the job, and a lot of folks make the same mistake that I don’t want any of your listeners or anyone close to any of your listeners to make, and that is they don’t report the injury when it happens now if it’s a serious injury employer’s going to be aware of it the employee whoever gets hurt they’re going to make sure everybody knows hey i i can’t walk but it’s the the more subtle injuries that can develop into more significant injuries that folks sometimes think well i think i think i’ll be okay i don’t want to be that person i don’t want to You know, report this. I’m going to give it. They think to themselves, I’m going to give it a day or two or three or I’ll go through the weekend, see how I feel on Monday. Big mistake. Defense counsel, we call them respondents counsel on the other side. If an injury isn’t reported when it happens, we’ll almost always make the argument that Well, you didn’t report this when it happened, so it must have happened at home. It must have happened at the gym. It must have happened while you’re on that hiking trail. So it’s so important that when someone gets hurt, even if it feels like it’s something that will be okay in a day or two, report it and report it in writing. Preferably, you know, fill out a form that the employer should hand you and give you called a claim form for the claimant. But if not, then a text message or an email. But report it and then get care. Have a doctor check it out. It’s part of the benefits under the workers’ compensation system. Employer and the insurance carrier for the employer responsible for the medical care for an on-the-job injury. So those two things right there. And then, and before you even, I mean, as soon as you’re hurt, if you can give me a call, I strongly recommend that that be done. And for listeners, if you know someone, if you have a son or a daughter or a neighbor or a good friend that gets hurt, tell them not to put it off. A simple phone call to me can save a lot of heartache and misery and fighting down the road. But have them call me at 303-999-9999. So John Bozen, 303-999-9999. Our quote for the end of the show is one by Charles Dickens.
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And he said, procrastination is the thief of time. And I agree. Over my life, I’m challenged sometimes by procrastination. For example, I might say to myself, oh, I need to put that in the car so I don’t forget because I need to do something. And if I procrastinate, then I forget. And then where I get where I need it, I don’t have it. So it’s been a real challenge. challenge for me to address procrastination. And I don’t think I’m alone, right? And so I think that’s my connection here is what you’re saying is don’t procrastinate. And taking action when action needs to be taken can really make life go better.
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Oh, so much better. Because the initial advice I give somebody is just critical. People can make so many mistakes because they don’t know how things are set up. And in the workers’ compensation system, I would argue, I would say, so much of it is set up against the injured worker. They just don’t know what they don’t know, and it can be very dangerous and very costly, for example, not to report the injury. And all that can be avoided with an early phone call for good advice. I tell folks all the time, time is of the essence. Don’t waste it. There is no charge for a simple conversation with me over the phone or one of our other senior lawyers who are going to tell folks what I’m going to tell them, whatever the circumstances, whether it’s a motor vehicle accident, on-the-job injury, slip on ice outside that restaurant, whatever it may be. Folks, call me so we can have the conversation and we can give the initial advice that can make all the difference.
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And that number is 303-999-9999. John Bozen, we will talk next week. Thank you so much.
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I will look forward to it. Have a great rest of your show, Kim.
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It was written early 1600s and then published, I believe, after his death in the late 1600s. Okay.
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There’s been a renaissance of this book, would you say? People interested in it?
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Yeah, I think for as old as it is, it’s kind of come back up into popular discourse, especially because a lot of the things it’s talking about. How do I want to say this? History is famously very cyclical. And I think we here in America and globally are at a point in history very similar in nature to the point in history that Machiavelli is frequently referencing in his text. So I feel like people are finding a bit of a connection of, oh, a lot of the stuff he’s talking about is kind of happening again. So I think maybe that’s why we’re seeing it kind of come up a bit more.
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OK. And do you with your friends and colleagues, do you discuss books like this or what’s those conversations like? You know, it kind of depends.
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It kind of depends. A lot of my friends are very involved in politics and political discourse. The Prince is one of those books that it’s not like we sit around and do a book review, but a couple of us have read it. So it comes up. Every now and then just sort of in the in regular conversation, you know, around these topics, which kind of gets our other friends interested. So less of a book club, more of an organic kind of love it. Hey, this is something that I read once. They go, oh, hey, I read that, too. That’s interesting. And someone goes, what was that called? I want to I want to pick it up.
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Interesting. How about you, Producer Joe? In your sphere of influence, what are you seeing regarding these conversations? And are you looking at books? I know you watch The Daily Wire quite a bit. So tell me about how those conversations are going with your sphere of influence.
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I find that there are a lot of similarities, even though we live in a time of technology and then there wasn’t any technology. It still is seeming to repeat there. And I don’t. talk about the book very much in my circle however we touched or i touched on it um in high school in world history and so i’ve been meaning to get back to it and this is my a good chance to so i’m finding a lot of similarity and it’s very neat
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Okay. And the founders studied. So you said 1600s. Yes. So that was before our founding and what, you know, the new world was opening up. I found this interesting. Lead me through this a little bit on Chapter 11 of Ecclesiastical Principalities. It has a lot to do with popes and Catholic Church and all that. So walk me through this.
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Yeah, so it talks about in this chapter, kind of writing off the back of the previous two chapters, where it’s talking about principalities. You can call them nation states, right? Principality is kind of the shorthand version of a system of governance kind of ruled by one person, essentially. Not quite a dictatorship, right? So any number of those other government synonyms can kind of fall in.
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So question, because it could be just one person, but it could be a group of people, yes, correct?
SPEAKER 06 :
I believe it depends. In this instance, he does separate the idea of principalities from republics, in which the rule by a people or a rule by many is given its own distinct name as a generalized republic, and then anything that is ruled by a single individual is generally referred to as a principality within the context of the text. Okay. So for example, the Pope here is, you know, the religious institution ruled by a Pope is considered a quote, principality in this context.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. And the premise of my question was the Joe Biden administration, where There are those that have questioned whether or not he was really making the decisions. We’ve heard the conversations about the auto pin. So could conceivably that group that we don’t know who they are, that was kind of controlling that. Could that be considered a principality? You know.
SPEAKER 06 :
Maybe. That’s an interesting question. That’s an interesting one. I don’t know.
SPEAKER 14 :
We’ll leave it out there then.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, we’ll leave it out there. It’s a good one to think on. But yeah, anyway, Machiavelli talks a lot in this chapter. And for historical reference, this is a time when… The Catholic Church was armed and a force. It is a state, a nation. We have the Vatican now, but I don’t think the Pope has guys with guns willing to conquer some nearby territory. This isn’t the Crusades era. But he goes on and he mentions that… Okay, next question. Yes, of course.
SPEAKER 14 :
And that is, speaking of church, religion, wanting to conquer other territories, there’s been the… expansion of Islam. So how would you address that? And I’ll go to you first, Luke, and then Joe, if you want to weigh in.
SPEAKER 06 :
Address it in what context?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, you said that the Vatican, the Pope now doesn’t have armies where they used to. Correct. So that’s a religious entity. What about the religious entity of Islam where they do have armies?
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, right. I think it’s a little dangerous. I think that arms should be used, and this is very general, right? Arms should be used in defense of a person or defense of a nation, right? Defense of religion is so abstract in the sense that it’s very easy to, for a religious institution to justify any number of things because religion is by nature kind of ephemeral in this you know it is divine ordinance not physical borders even in this text Machiavelli mentions that it is very difficult for a religious institution a pope to conquer a land But once that land is conquered, it is very, very easy to control it without doing anything because the people within that land are being ruled by a god or being ruled by divinity. And that rule extends above all others. So it’s very, very easy to control a population.
SPEAKER 14 :
When you say God made me do it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. With religion as this sort of big, all-encompassing bubble, you can justify anything if God made you do it. Right. There’s no burden of responsibility on yourself because it is divine. It is ephemeral, which becomes very dangerous, especially in the context of where Machiavelli’s talking of religion. religious institutions literally going through and conquering land, right? It is taking physical territory from people. It is enacting rule and sort of forcing that upon a population who may not be reciprocal to it. But again, if it’s divine, you can kind of justify anything. You mentioned the Middle East. You see a lot there, right? These religious extremist groups moving through swaths of land and turning, you know, what was it?
SPEAKER 14 :
And today’s October 7th. This is the two-year anniversary of the attack by Hamas.
SPEAKER 06 :
It’s very easy to see. You can go back in time when we have photographs of what some of these places in the Middle East looked like. before and after the institution of islam uh and you know you see these bustling streets and markets and people moving out and about and now you look at a modern photo and everyone’s dressed head to toe and coverings because you know women aren’t allowed to exist essentially it’s very very dangerous to begin using that and he mentions here how easy it is to enforce that control uh and i think you see that very evident in the middle east one it’s very hard for them to take it But once they have that control, it is very difficult to get away from it.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out the website for the Center for American Values. That website is AmericanValuesCenter.org. They’ve got a great On Values presentation with Norma Donilon on October 20th. That is a Monday. And… Should be very, very interesting. She has a really an amazing story. And so that’ll be great. They do all kinds of educational programs. The center is nonpolitical and nonpartisan. They’re focused on these foundational principles of honor, integrity and patriotism. You can get all kinds of great information by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. I’ve got the young whippersnappers here in studio with me, and that is producer Luke and producer Joe. Wanted to mention one thing we were talking about. Chapter 11 of Ecclesiastical Principalities by Niccolo Machiavelli. And Joe, you said that the book was written in 1513, published in 1532. Yes, ma’am. Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
I got my 1500s and 1600s mixed up.
SPEAKER 14 :
It’s such an easy thing to have happen, you know, Luke?
SPEAKER 06 :
They’re very similar, you know. We’ll just ignore the Industrial Revolution.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
A couple of things, though. We’re talking about religion. And certainly, in the name of Christ, there has been all kinds of things that mankind, human nature, has justified.
SPEAKER 06 :
Famously, the Crusades. Famously.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. Of course, they were going to get back some of the stuff that they felt were stolen. It was really two different things going on. The story about Christ, though, is he does not force himself upon you. He lets you make a choice. Now, granted, many have used Christ as a lever over people, control people. But Christ, in the true sense, he says you can have the freedom. In fact, C.S. Lewis has talked about that as well. We have the freedom to choose or not to choose. And so I think that’s an important distinction. Joe, let’s have you weigh in now as we were talking about Popes and armies and all that.
SPEAKER 11 :
So I find it interesting you just mentioned the using of Christ’s name for different purposes and whatnot, because looking at my notes, one of the things that I understood within it was. The ecclesiastical principalities are usually established through appointment or inheritance. So they say they have the divine right to lead these people. They’ve been given the right by God. So this is why I have this power. Similarly, though, thinking about today, I was thinking about a lot of the previous presidents. A lot of them were established within a… The Green Deal and trying to be like, oh, I am very here for climate change. And in that same sense, it has given them power. But that to me is kind of the radical left’s religion as well.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, good. Very good point. And I wanted to make this other point. And then, Luke, I’ll go to you. We can finish this up because I know we want to get into the next subject. But so 1513 is when this is written. And in the first paragraph at the end, he says that as they are. upheld by higher causes which the human mind cannot attain to, I will abstain from speaking of them. For being exalted and maintained by God, it would be the work of a presumptuous and foolish man to discuss them. And then I go to the founders and they’re like, wait a minute, we’re going to discuss this. You know what? We don’t believe in this divine right of kings. We’re going to do something different. And so you can see how radical the founders were. But I found it so interesting in 1513 that that Machiavelli wrote that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I think that’s also in the historical context. This is coming at a time where if you spoke out against the church, you’re getting killed, right? You are getting imprisoned and executed.
SPEAKER 09 :
Talk about force.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, which I think, you know.
SPEAKER 14 :
Freedom of speech there. Again, that point, freedom of speech.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes. Which is what the founders were very, very good in making a very clear point that the government shall not recognize one institution of religion. I think they saw the writing on the wall of sort of previous issues that happened again. Machiavelli is the man writing about it, but the only thing he’s writing about is verifiable historical fact. This is all history, right? Not a lot of this is theory. He’s just presenting his findings and then giving examples of how these findings have been relevant across his personal experience kind of in government. So, yeah, I don’t think he you know, he’s not going to talk about it too much because he doesn’t want to get executed, which is a small touch of irony, because I do believe he was imprisoned and then subsequently tortured for for speaking for speaking. Yes.
SPEAKER 14 :
I think there’s a real problem with that. We need to err on the side of freedom of speech, for sure. Joe, you want to weigh in on this?
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. And I just find it funny, or not ha-ha funny, but a little unique, too. One of the biggest commandments is saying we will not find a different… ruler and like god is the one true ruler and so we are not supposed to herald anybody else and that’s what we do when someone says they are divinely chosen to be a ruler but second um To that as well, look at the government that the Romans had when Jesus was crucified. He was saying, hey, I am the son of God. I am the one true one. And the Roman government basically said, no, our leader is the one true one. We’re going to kill you for that. And thus the crucifixion happened.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. Good point. Very interesting point. I wanted to mention one other thing, because you mentioned writing on the wall. Yes. It was a dot that I connected a few years ago. I was doing Bible reading. Do you know where it comes from? No. You guys ready for this? Yes. This is so interesting. This is in Daniel 5 in the Bible. And there’s a big party that’s thrown by Nebuchadnezzar. And this is from BibleStudyTools.com. It says, During a party thrown by the grandson of King Nebuchadnezzar, a large hand appears and writes four words on the wall. These four words written on the wall declare the end of the Babylonian Empire and the oncoming invasion from the Meadow Persians that very night. And that’s where writing on the wall comes from.
SPEAKER 06 :
Very interesting. Isn’t that fascinating? I had no idea.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, let’s get over here to the next chapter, though, because you really want to get into this. And this is the different kinds of militia and mercenary soldiers. And you mentioned that… There are things happening today. So, for example, Portland is under siege. What should happen with that? Trump’s saying, I’m going to send in feds. I know a lot of us are uncomfortable with troops in the city. I know. So what’s your thoughts on this, Luke?
SPEAKER 06 :
On that issue in particular, I think that… It’s a little ironic in a not so nice kind of way in the sense that the word insurrection being used very specifically I find a touch of irony in because that’s the same word that the left used to describe what was happening at the Capitol. Good point. Interesting. The left will describe what happened at the Capitol as an insurrection in the same way the right will describe what’s happening in Portland as an insurrection. Both sides will vehemently deny those claims, but both sides are still using the same argument. I think… On a very foundational level, I take issue with a president raising troops, a National Guard, against a civilian population, an unarmed civilian population in any capacity. I think it sets a very dangerous precedent because if Trump can justify this, well, the next time a Democrat gets elected, well, well, well. Anyone who has a gun, anyone who likes the Second Amendment, anyone who’s waving an American flag or a Do Not Tread On Me flag, that’s actually an insurrection now. We’re sending the National Guard against you. There’s precedent for it now. Personally, I don’t care if you agree with the individual set of circumstances. I think it’s dangerous as a whole. It is a bad tone to set because other people can use that same argument later down the line. I think it’s… This is probably going to catch me some flack. Sending in the National Guard against a civilian population is very un-American, I think. I think it goes against a lot of the very foundational principles this country was founded on. So I take great issue with it on a very fundamental foundational level.
SPEAKER 14 :
I hear what you’re saying there, Luke.
SPEAKER 11 :
Joe, what’s your thoughts? I kind of agree with Luke, and I disagree. But where I agree is where it differentiates for me is the timing. So we’ve been… living in a world for the last four years or so where the radical left can go and destroy any city they want they can pull in migrants who can destroy our city too and we’re just supposed to be like well no don’t do that and then when they do it again in portland right now we’re supposed to just sit around and let them keep doing that i that’s where i have an issue it’s like At the start, we should have… At the start, leave them alone. Well, they have proven that time and time again, they cannot behave as rational, decent human beings and treat… their states and people with kindness and decency therefore we we have to have something to back it up and that’s what the national guard is for so i mean there’s the the reserves the national guard and the active duty active duty protects us the reserves is more on the federal side and the national guard is supposed to defend the state generally speaking i um
SPEAKER 14 :
And I’m going to say weigh in here. You can weigh in by texting me at 720-605-0647. Okay, Luke?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I was going to say it’s a very emotionally charged argument, especially in the context of… sort of national security in which I think it is imperative to be objective as much as possible. This idea that they should behave and act morally is abstract because who then is defining the morality which justifies the violence against a group?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, but that’s an interesting point. But the defining morality is to destroy other people’s property. I think that could be a fact. That could be something that I hope we could agree upon, that you can’t go destroy other people’s property.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, I think you should not destroy other people’s property. I definitely agree. But I also think there are balances and systems in place that are meant to do these things initially. When it comes to a situation like Portland, it’s interesting. Not to sort of belabor Portland a little too much. But it’s a good example. It’s a great example. To talk about. It’s a great example. Machiavelli says in his text that a nation that is armed and has good laws is going to be secure and free. And that a nation that is not armed is not going to have laws and will never be free. It mentions mercenaries, which is a bit more old school, right? We still use mercenaries every now and then. We’re less above board about it. And it’s interesting because it mentions that essentially using a foreign nation to fight your wars or to fight your battles is no good. Having a strong nation to fight your own battles is more well advised. But it’s interesting because I feel like America has, in essence, and I’d love to get your opinions on this, America has, in essence, become almost like a pseudo-mercenary state in which we are giving our military to other people to use. It’s like we have such a big military and we’re letting foreign nations, right? They’re our allies, granted, but we are letting foreign nations use our people to fight their wars. We are kind of, on a national scale, mercenaries of a different sort, right? We’re sending our people into conflicts we have no stake in, but our allies have stake in it, so we’re sending our men and women out there. It’s very interesting to see us kind of be on what i believe is the other side of that and uh machiavelli says hey try not to use mercenaries but we are in essence sending our people out as quote unquote mercenaries in this capacity which is i don’t know a little little interesting i don’t think we personally i don’t think we should be doing that um i’d love to get your your insider opinion on that though
SPEAKER 14 :
We will keep that as our cliffhanger.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right.
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SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I was just thinking in the way that mercenaries was stated, we have political mercenaries to the media. They generally do what they’re told as long as the money kind of gives it to them. So they’re doing it only for profit, whereas not for the per cause, which I find an interesting thought.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and that’s a perfect segue to say support the Kim Monson Show, because we are not mercenaries. We are independent on an independent station. And I buy my airtime, so I don’t have any mercenary media telling me what I have to do. So thanks, Joe. We didn’t rehearse that, right? No, ma’am, we did not. Okay, producer… Luke, I do want to address this. Yeah. But you said you got a text message. Do you want to do the text message?
SPEAKER 06 :
Sure, I’ll do the text message, because I think it kind of leads in. My father sent me a text message. Shout out, Tim Cashman. He said… So how do you manage a conflict when local or state police are mandated to stand down and not assist the assault of federal officers trying to enforce laws? To that I say, the burden of responsibility is on the individual to do what they believe is right regardless of a mandate. You know, if… If some authority figure mandates a law enforcement officer to shoot an unarmed, surrendered civilian and they go, well, I was just following orders, that is a poor excuse. In the same instance, if an officer is mandated to stand down and watch the assault of an individual and they stand down and watch the assault of an individual, that is also a poor excuse. Again, the onus is on the individual to do what is right.
SPEAKER 14 :
But you mentioned that, and I’ve got to think dinner conversations at the Cashman House are so interesting.
SPEAKER 07 :
They are. They are.
SPEAKER 14 :
So you mentioned, though, what is right. And what has happened, Luke and Joe, probably even before you guys were born, is this postmodernism, relativism, where it says you have your truth, I have my truth. What is truth? What is right? And so when we don’t have a clear character definition of right and wrong, leaving it up to the individual can be dangerous, I think.
SPEAKER 11 :
Joe? Well, and I think that really comes down to the breakdown of religion, though. The Bible gives you examples of right and wrong. It teaches you, hey, the golden rule. Do unto others as you would want it done unto you. So we have this guideline, but I see half of America has just straight pushed it off to the side because they don’t follow all of it. And therefore, we have kind of lost this…
SPEAKER 06 :
gauge of morals and values and that that i think really has come from the breakdown of religion because it isn’t uh it’s interesting talking about that as a moral guideline when we were also just talking about using religion as justification of action uh in the sense that uh if your religion believes in a certain morality then you can enforce that morality within discretion um It’s interesting because it’s very nuanced, this idea of individuality. Religion is a divine institution. To enforce that morality is kind of similar to what we were talking about. But religion… Islam, for example, is a religion that says it is morally justified to force women to be fully covered from head to toe. So I don’t think you can use religion as moral justification. I think morality needs to be… Morality needs to be addressed with a very specific lens because if you are an individual within an institution of religion and say, well, this is moral to me. Again, those who are practicing and enforcing Islam says, well, it is moral for me to suicide bomb someone, right? You can’t be blind to the potential that your own religion is in some capacity harmful to a human being. And again, that’s not saying religion is harmful as a blanket statement. But if you can say something like that for Islam, well, then you have to be open minded enough to accept that something like that may be possible for your own beliefs, which is a very difficult lens to look at. But, you know, if you’re going to use that argument against someone else, you have to be able to use that argument against yourself.
SPEAKER 14 :
Got to be objective as much as possible. Government within its proper role. But this came in. Thank you, Ben. He said, the radical extremists are physically attacking the ICE agents. So they are attacking. It’s not like they’re just sitting there. And so it says, do they not deserve… Do the agents not deserve physical protection? I would say yes. You get to the individual, I protect myself. It says the left is fully at war while the right’s been asleep. In this case, force is needed to stop unlawful force. I agree, I know, though.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I’ll say, how do you, again, as an objective lens as possible, if, I’ll rephrase the thing, and again, I’m not going to make an argument for or against anything, the only thing I’m doing here is attempting to offer perspective, is to look at things from a slightly different point of view to see if those arguments can stand under your own personal scrutiny. If you, Kim Monson, are living under a radical Democrat, and this radical Democrat sends unmarked enforcement agents armed against you in your home to perform an action against you that you don’t agree with, are you not individually justified to defend yourself against that action? It is different if a badged and named police officer knocks on your door, fully expresses the crime you have committed and why you are under arrest. It is very different if an unmarked individual comes to your home and takes you without due process or verbalization of what you have done. So again, not an argument against violence against ICE, but these are the set of circumstances that are in play. And I think as an individual, it’s not as though the ICE agents are having a coffee in their home and are being attacked. These are ICE agents who are performing a series of actions that in the eye of the person being acted against is unjustified.
SPEAKER 14 :
However, what they’re trying to protect is people that have come here illegally, and my understanding is ICE agents are trying to deport people that are— If there’s no due process, how do you know it’s legal or illegal? I agree with you. Due process is important. Guys, we’re going to be out of time.
SPEAKER 06 :
I know.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. But you know what? We’re going to be able to—I looked at the next two chapters, and this is going to be a great discussion. Okay, Joe? Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, my only thought is that is what we have our constitutional rights for. But when the government is picking and choosing what constitutional rights they’re going to follow and adhere for us, that’s where I think we’re getting into a tumultuous time is the radical left says, no, you can’t have guns, but you can talk and say whatever.
SPEAKER 14 :
And to that point, Joe, is you said when… um somebody comes and knocks on your door and you have to take your gun tries to protect yourself we look down here at this colorado state legislature we talk with alicia and garcia and teddy all the time that they are using public policy so that law-abiding citizens cannot keep and bear firearms so when that guy knocks on your door you can’t protect yourself that is the agenda that we’re we’re fighting against okay 30 seconds okay 30 seconds luke
SPEAKER 06 :
Like I said, the only thing I’m trying to do is offer perspective. I love it. Take the arguments you know you are using and apply them to yourself. Again, it’s a little difficult to really scrutinize your own beliefs, but I think it is incredibly important to really apply that lens to not just what’s happening around you, but to what’s happening to you and yourself and in your party and spaces as well.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. Thanks, Luke.
SPEAKER 11 :
We’ll do this next month. Joe.
SPEAKER 14 :
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