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Welcome to the Kim Monson Show podcast. Kim Monson is your host. President Trump’s assessment of the United Nations wasn’t political theater. Guest host Brad Beck and Dr. Brian Joondeph explains that the U.N. is supposed to stop invasions, not create them nor finance them. President of the David Horowitz Freedom Center Michael Finch discusses his book A Time to Stand: The Dire Hour to Defend American Beauty. Candidate Patty McKernan notes why she is running for Centennial City Council. State Farm agent Roger Mangan addresses rental reimbursement travel expenses. ————————————————————————————– The Kim Monson Show airs on KLZ 560
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On an equal field in the battle of ideas, mistruths and misconceptions is getting us into a world of hurt.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
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Indeed, let’s have a conversation. Hello, Colorado. Welcome to the Kim Munson Show. I’m Bradley Beck and I’m guest hosting for the next two hours for Kim as she’s out away for some much needed time off. And so let’s have a conversation today. Thank you. Each of you are welcome. valued for listening you’re treasured you’re valued and have purpose today strive for excellence take care of your heart your soul your mind and your body we were made for this moment in history and thank you to all the great team that works with kim and especially producer joe who lets me in the door in the morning good morning joe
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Good morning, Brad. How are you doing this morning?
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I’m doing unbelievable. It’s a nice, crisp fall morning here in Colorado, and the leaves have pretty much dropped, or they’re almost all gone. They were beautiful until the wind blew them all away, and they seemed all gathered in my front yard. How about yourself?
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Yeah, just the same. I live at an apartment, but I remember the other day I was getting home and I just saw this pile of leaves covering the sidewalk. It was pretty crazy to see. It happened like overnight pretty much.
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I don’t know about you, but in my neighborhood, the trick-or-treaters kind of cleared them all off the sidewalk, and we had hundreds of kids. So it was great to see all the costumes, and hopefully everybody enjoyed that, and hopefully everybody enjoyed the great World Series. It was quite an event. And the Los Angeles Dodgers, of course, won that in seven games and pretty exciting. So hopefully people are on now to the next event, which is Thanksgiving. And before we get there, we always like to make sure we acknowledge all the people that bring the Kim Munson Show to you. And you first remember to visit Kim’s website at kimmunson.com. You can sign up for her weekly email newsletter and get the first look at all her upcoming guests, as well as the most recent essays. I have one there and got a lot of feedback on it. So thank you to all those listeners out there who do give us feedback. Also, Election Day is tomorrow. Your ballots are due by 7 p.m. tomorrow. and it’s not too late to mail them in. Download Kim’s Voter Guide to become an informed voter, a good resource for school board elections, which are critical here in the state. And you can go to transformcolorado.org and get more information in your local race. And you can always email Kim at kimmonson.com. That’s K-I-M at kimmonson.com. And thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It’s reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant power from naturally occurring hydrocarbons such as oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer. And thank goodness for the oil and gas industry. We really appreciate them. And thank you to Hooters Restaurant for their sponsorship. There are three locations in Aurora, Westminster, and Loveland. They have great lunch specials Monday through Friday for dine-in or to-go. Wednesday our Wings Day. Buy 20 wings and get an additional 10 for free. Great place for lunch. This offer is for to-go or dine-in. And Hooters Restaurants is a great place to get together with friends and watch your favorite team as football season has really kicked in. So I guess the Broncos won yesterday a field goal, three points. So I think the standing now is they’re up 7-2, Joe, and I think they’ve got a good shot at getting into the playoff and winning this year.
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Right on. But I’m rooting for the Bills, and they won yesterday, too. So let’s hope they’re keeping on going.
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Well, you know, it’s always exciting around this time of year with all the various sports going on. And one of the things that Kim always does, and I like to keep the tradition going, is have a word of the day so we get better and stronger at our vocabulary. And the word I picked today is very sing-song, and it’s euphonious, and I’ll spell it. E-U-P-H-O-N-I-O-U-S. And something that euphonious sounds beautiful or pleasant, the word sounds very pleasant. Sing a song, as I mentioned, and most often this word’s applied to music or a person’s tone or accent. Used in a sentence, a great public speaker might have a euphonious voice. So today, use that word, euphonious, and you’ll get bonus points when you talk to your friends around the water cooler at work today. The quote of the day is from somebody who I’ve admired for years as a author. Many people don’t know him, but he is a gentleman named Edward de Bono. He was born May 19th, 1933, and he died June 9th, 2021. He was from the island of Malta. He’s a Maltese physician and commentator and writer. And he originated the term lateral thinking. And he wrote many books on thinking, including six thinking hats and one of my favorite, Teach Yourself to Think. And he said the following, quote, There is no doubt that creativity is the most important human resource of all. Without creativity, there would be no progress, and we would forever be repeating the same patterns. End of quote. That’s from Edward de Bono. So I encourage you to take a look at his writing, especially teach yourself to think. It’s a great, great read and it gets you to thinking about creativity. And this being the great November 3rd day in history here in Colorado has some very significant things that have happened on this date. The Colorado State Capitol located downtown in Denver was completed on November 3rd, 1894 after six years of construction. And I’m fortunate every year to help sponsor my local elementary school to do what we call Liberty Day. We take all the students down to the Capitol and they get to see the legislature, how it works, both on the House and the Senate side, and then we also walk them through the executive section of the building, and then they get to go up to the very top of the Capitol and the rotunda, and it’s just a great experience. And then we walk them down the street to the judicial branch, so they get to see and experience all three branches of government. So if you haven’t been down to the Capitol before, take the time to do that. Also on November 3rd in 1896, Colorado became the first state in the nation to elect a female state senator, Clara Cressingham. And she won for, I’m not sure of the district, but she became the first lady to be a state senator. And on November 3rd, 1925, marked the opening of Red Rocks Amphitheater. And if you haven’t been to a concert there, it’s incredible. The first time I ever saw a concert was the Allman Brothers many years ago, and it’s just a fantastic venue. I encourage you to, if you see somebody you like to hear, go to Red Rocks. So with that, we will have this short opportunity to talk to one of the sponsors. Kim’s pleased to share this prerecorded interview with State Farm agent Roger Mangan.
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And as you all know, I’m an independent voice on an independent station, and we search for truth and clarity on all these issues, looking at them through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. And how this independent voice is here is because of all of your support and our great sponsors. And I’m talking with Roger Mangan with the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team, and we’re going through an insurance primer on auto policies, which is really fascinating. So what’s our next subject?
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I’d like to talk to the audience about rental and reimbursement and travel expenses. Now, this is an optional coverage you can buy. It’s probably going to cost you anywhere from $15 to $20 every six months. So what do you get for that money? Well, you can buy different levels of coverage. Traditionally, if you buy that coverage with State Farm, it’s automatically $50 a day with a $1,500 cap. So if you are in the need of a rental car because of an accident, you’re at fault. If you’re not at fault, the other company is going to be responsible for your rental car. But if you’re in an accident or your car is hit in a hailstorm and it’s in the shop for two weeks, you’re going to need some substitute transportation. We’ll pay up to $50 per day, $1,500 maximum. Now, if you drive an SUV, a big car, some kind of a van you haul the kids around in, you might want $75 a day or $100 a day. So there are three different levels you can buy. Of course, it’s more expensive the more coverage you buy. But what’s important, I think, with that coverage is it also has a codicil that covers travel expense. Listen to this carefully because most people have never heard of it. They’ll pay up to $500 total for the following incurred expenses for all persons when your car is not drivable as a result of a loss which occurs more than 50 miles away from your home. What that means is, hey, the car’s damaged, you have to leave it, and that leaves you without a car, okay? So if you go get a motel, you eat some meals out, or you have some transportation home, we will pay up to $500 in addition to the daily rental for you to use while you’re recovering from that accident. Let’s say it happens in… Wyoming, and you need to get to Denver and you go rent another car, we’ll pay up to $500 for that rental car. Or if you stay in a motel and wait two days for that car to be fixed, you’ve got a pool of $500 and meals to be covered during that situation. Pretty interesting.
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And is that part of, again, is that extra? How do people know how to get that?
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That’s extra. That’s on top of the $1,500 total. Okay. So you have $2,000 in that case. But you have to be more than 50 miles away from home for that coverage to trigger.
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Okay. Okay. Okay, and is this included in your auto insurance, or is this something extra that people need to request?
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It’s included in the car rental expense provision, that line of coverage called car rental, okay? Okay. Or rental reimbursement is often referred to. Okay. Okay, it’s included. And the last item is rental car. This is interesting, too, okay? Let’s say you’re in a rental car, you have an accident, and you have a deductible because that accident was your fault in that rental car. So the car goes into the rental car body shop, and it’s repaired, and they say to you, well, you owe us a $500 deductible that we have to pay to get that car fixed. We will actually reimburse you that $500 with this coverage. Very important to know. And people go, really? You’ll pay for that? Yes, we will.
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Okay. And the other thing is that I’ve learned in conversations with you is it is so important to have an agent when this kind of stuff would happen is to call your agent, which is your business.
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Yeah, absolutely. And you can buy… So much insurance online nowadays, and the question is, they give you what they think you need. And oftentimes they say, well, buy what you need. Well, you don’t know what you need. You don’t know what is available out there that you may need sometime. And the cost differentials between an agent and non-agent, they’re minimal or minuscule, to be honest with you. So I would certainly call… Steve Farm, Roger Mangan, and try to get a quote.
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Well, and the other thing is you will do complimentary appointments to go over insurance coverage with people. I was up for renewal on all of my coverage, and we sat down and also talked with Stacy and went through the coverage, which it’s just a smart thing to do every year.
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Yeah, absolutely. I’m dealing with a guy now that I have like 12 policies. I haven’t talked to him in a couple of years and there’s so many changes in a two-year period with auto insurance. Rates have gone up a lot. So it’s like, am I spending my money with you properly? Am I maximizing the efficiency of my dollars being spent? Or am I just spending dollars and don’t know what I have and Let’s just merrily go along. You really do need to call your agent and say, hey, can you do a review for me and call me back? You don’t have to be on the phone. You don’t have to go to the office. You’re the boss. I mean, you’re paying my salary. So when you call and say do this, I do it, okay? So in this particular guy’s case, I probably spent two or three hours looking at his very complicated situation. portfolio I have with this gentleman. So I’m going to call him back saying, okay, when can we get together for about an hour? We need to go through some of my insights and recommendations. And we can certainly save him money.
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What an invaluable thing to work with great people. How can people reach you and your team, Roger Mangan?
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You can call us at 303-795-8855. And we write all over Colorado. So from border to border. In fact, we’re even licensed to write insurance in Arizona. Okay. Like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan team is there.
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And welcome back. I’m Bradley Beck filling in for Kim Munson today. Check out Kim’s website at kimmunson.com or email her at kim at kimmunson.com. And thank you for contributing to the support of Kim’s independent voice and exercising your right to freedom of speech. And, of course, Kim’s got some great sponsors as well. She supports many community funds and organizations. And through all Kim’s work with veterans, she’s honored to highlight the USMC Memorial Foundation and all they’re doing to raise money to remodel the official USMC Memorial, which is located right here in Golden at 6th and Colfax. Paula Saris is the president of the foundation. And she is a Marine veteran and a Gold Star wife. Paula and her team are working diligently to make the remodel a reality. And you can help by donating at usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That’s usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And remember, tomorrow is Election Day, and I stand corrected. I had actually tomorrow’s guest host, Marshall Dawson, correct me that it’s too late to mail in your votes. So you have to drop them off by 7 p.m. tomorrow. And speaking of the election, we have a candidate for Centennial City Council and a friend of mine, Patty McKernan. Patty, good morning.
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Good morning, Brad. How are you today?
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I’m doing unbelievable, and it’s good to hear your voice. And my first question for you is share with our listeners your location, where you’re running, and why you’re running.
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Okay, great. Well, I have District 3 in Centennial, and it is 15 miles wide. A lot of my colleagues get to walk their neighborhoods, but I have to drive a lot of mine. I go from Colorado Boulevard on the west side South of Dry Creek County line. And then it hits I-25 and starts going further north and further weird. And it goes all the way up to like Smoky Hill and Liverpool. So I have a lot of territory to cover. And I’m running because, well, what happened was I heard about these single hauler trash contracts. And I know what it’s been doing in other communities. So I listened in on the pitch. And I realized that we have some third party, I’ll just call them grifters. And they’re going in town to town trying to… interfere with our choice and control as citizens and start regulating the trash services. And that’s not the proper role of government. You know that term, and I love that term, proper role of government. So I started looking at Centennial and thinking, hmm, I think they might need somebody who thinks like I do to be in this district on the city council. I’m running against a young man who’s planning and economic development is his background and i don’t have anything bad to say about him that’s not my role but he you know he’s grown up in a world where you want to put up every single piece of cement you know monstrosity on every road and every undeveloped piece of land and centennial is a beautiful city we have beautiful trails beautiful parks great neighborhoods And we want to maintain the look and feel of Centennial as it is today. So I jumped in the race late, upset the apple cart a little bit because some of my Republican precinct leaders had already jumped on the other fellow’s train because I wasn’t in the race. So it’s been a little interesting.
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Well, good for you to do that, because I think more citizens need to fill those positions with freedom minded people. And you’re certainly one of them. And speaking of that, what are your constituents saying to you or the potential constituents about what is the top two or three issues that they’re concerned about in Centennial?
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So I think people are concerned about affordability. When Centennial was incorporated, it was incorporated as a not as a city like, you know, Greenwood Village or Aurora. They just wanted to keep the way that Centennial was and, you know, live a lifestyle. And so we have a small government and people like that, but we don’t they don’t want us to raise our taxes. Although some people really are concerned about some of the services. And I’m hearing a little bit more about traffic safety. And now that we have all of these different modes of transportation, we contract our police department, if you will, our police services with Arapahoe County Sheriff’s Office. And they’re a great partner, but we actually have to pay for what we want, right? So we don’t have a tremendous amount of traffic patrol cars out. And now you’ve got kids on scooters. And as I’m campaigning, I see the multiple ways that people are using sidewalks with motorized vehicles. And now there’s multimodal lanes that are out there. They’re proposing one on Colorado Boulevard from Dry Creek to Arapahoe. And there’s no one that uses that. There are no pedestrians. I’ve seen one jogger and I’ve seen one bike in five years of traveling that back and forth to work and church every day. So I think that citizens are worried about how do we spend our money? Do we spend our money on things that we don’t need? They’re worried a little bit about safety, especially because of traffic. A few places where there’s crime and, you know, they worry about that a little bit. But Centennial citizens are happy. They love Centennial.
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It’s a great community. And one of the things, you know, you mentioned earlier about the single hauler trash. And I know in Broomfield that’s been an issue. They’re trying to bring it up to Boulder area. and I find that government tries to make deals with certain allies, and you have no choice, and you find out about it usually when it’s too late. Are there other issues like that that are bubbling up in your community?
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Well, you know, one other one that I’ve heard of, and I’m not saying that it’s a giant problem, but it always makes me say, okay, now what else? And that was there’s a senior apartment company community in littleton that’s being built they uh kind of bulldozed a whole i don’t know four four block area and they’re building a senior apartment community which is great because seniors need places to live but the housing the developer came to centennial and asked for our municipal bond allotment to give to them to build their apartments in littleton because we weren’t using them And I’m thinking, why do you go shopping around for other people’s money? It drives me crazy. I think if a developer is developing a building, if it’s sustainable, good. Let them build it and let the market work. So it was a little troublesome, and I’m going to be looking at that. I’m also going to be looking at why are some of the businesses failing? They’re talking about some of the… businesses on the east side of I-25 and south of Arapahoe Road and that some of those midtown, I don’t know, what do they call them, mid-century buildings, they’re not desirable anymore. Well, why not? Why do we have to have everything be the same and the 15-minute city look all over? I don’t know that that’s right for Centennial.
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Yeah, you want a little uniqueness in your community. And I’ve often wondered that myself, especially if there are historic buildings. It’s so easy to knock them down and put something shiny up. But I think repurposing some of these communities and business districts is a benefit to the citizens.
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Well, the one good thing that they’re looking at creating this area called Midtown Centennial. I don’t know about that yet. That’s going to be something I’ll dig into a little bit more. But what I do know is that we have a lot of seniors that live in homes that can’t afford to then go downsize because their downsize is going to cost them more than the house that they’ve owned for years. So we do probably need to find a way to have patio homes, more affordable for our seniors that don’t want to leave Centennial to be able to live somewhere else that is more applicable to their lifestyle. That I really think I support. But I’m not just a yes for anybody that walks in the door type of a person. I’m going to critically think about what could happen if we accept a proposal. And we have five seats up in Centennial, including the mayor. And if those five seats go a different way, then Centennial could change forever. And it’s nonpartisan, as we say, but you know who endorses your candidate. So all you have to do is look and see who’s giving them money and who’s endorsing them, and you know what’s to come. So there are five opportunities for our city to change drastically, and we just don’t want that to happen.
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Well, Patty McKernan, you know, on radio, time goes so quickly. Where can people get a hold of you and find out more about your campaign?
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My website is patty4centennial.com. That’s Patty with a Y, the number 4centennial.com.
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We wish you the best of luck, Patty, and look forward to hearing you on the other side having won your election. So thanks for coming on the Kim Munson Show.
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Thanks, Brad.
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We’ll talk soon. Thanks. And we’ll be right back.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. I’m Bradley Beck filling in for Kim, who’s away for a couple of days. But you can sign up for Kim’s weekly email newsletter at Kim’s website at KimMunson.com. You can download her voter’s guide and just click on the red ribbon at the top. Put your name in the email and you’ll receive a link to that guide. It’s a good source for school board races as well as your local elections. And you can always email Kim at KimMunson.com. And we always want to thank you for contributing to the support of her independent voice and exercising our right to freedom of speech. And speaking of freedom, there is a great company called Mint Financial Strategies. And as an independent firm and an accredited investment fiduciary, they always put your interests first. Mint means more than money. It stands for a meaningful relationship, information sharing, a network of smart strategies, and a thoughtful advisor who puts you in control. No cookie cutter plans here. Everything is tailored to you. Call Mint Financial Strategies today at 303-285-3080. That’s 303-285-3080. And on the line with us, we have a guest. You’ve heard him on Kim’s show many times, Dr. Brian Jundep. You can read his articles at Rasmussen Reports and American Thinkers. And he’s got a great one just came out October 20th. And I like the title of this. Hey, hey, ho, ho. The U.N. has got to go. Brian, welcome to the Kim Munson Show.
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Hi, Brad. Nice to meet you.
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Yes, nice to hear you too, sir. So I’m reading this and a couple of your other articles this weekend, and I like how you started the presentation off about President Trump’s blunt assessment of the United Nations when he was there on September 23rd. And he wasn’t just talking about political theater. He was actually pointing out what’s wrong with the U.N. Brian, what’s wrong with the U.N.? ?
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Well, the UN is a big bureaucracy, and they should be in the business of creating peace and helping poor nations and bringing peace and prosperity to the world. Instead, they’re fomenting conflict, and they’ve become very political. They’re pushing a political agenda. They pick their favorites. They’re corrupt. They’re taking a lot of… U.S. tax dollars, certainly a disproportionate amount, and they’re not delivering on what they should be doing, what their charter is. When they started back in the 40s, I believe, or 50s, they’re not bringing peace and they’re not a force, really they’re not a force for good in the world. And interestingly, a Rasmussen Report survey noted that, that More people feel that the U.S. is a force for good in the world compared to the U.N. And unless the U.N. can be seriously reformed, it’s like all these other NGOs that are taking money and really not helping anything. They’re causing more problems than they’re solving.
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Well, you mentioned in the article, you talk about the many genocides in many places of the world, Rwanda, Defar, Congo, you know, what’s happening right now in Nigeria with the slaughter of Christians. And you wonder, you know, for 80 years, they’ve been holding their skills of diplomacy and doing nothing. So how do we get them to do something?
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Well, I think the only way is buddy. How do you get teenagers to do their chores? You cut off their allowance if they don’t do them. So I think money is the best way. And why is the U.N. in Manhattan? Why is it occupying prime real estate? It really doesn’t have to be. And why is America, one of 190-something countries, paying a quarter of… It sees its operating budget. Where are the other countries? So if we cut that off, they’ll have to reform. Ideally, Elon Musk and his Doge Commission should go into the U.N. and investigate what they’re spending money on, lavish parties and getaways and junkets and flying their people all over the world and staying in fancy hotels, eating in fine restaurants. You know, you view the U.N. kind of as doing a mission. And when you go on a mission trip, as I’ve done, you’re not living in luxury. You’re living with the locals, and you’re not staying at the Four Seasons. You’re sleeping in a little hut somewhere. And the U.N. can do that, too. A dose of that would be good. And Trump is bringing that to the forefront. This has been talked about in past administrations. It’s nothing new. But nothing’s ever done. We keep funding it and we keep getting, not unexpectedly, the same results. And Nigeria is a great example. Christians are being slaughtered. This is not new. It didn’t start yesterday. Where’s the U.N.? The U.N. is passing resolutions condemning Israel. That seems to be their… Their main focus, how many resolutions have there been against Israel versus all the other countries in the world that are doing bad things?
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Exactly.
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Christian genocide is really what the U.N. should be focused on. That is right up their alley. They should be speaking about it and doing something about it. Instead, it takes Donald Trump to raise the issue and wake them up.
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Well, let me play devil’s advocate because I agree with you on most of this, but I question whether or not if we pull out of the U.N., does the vacuum get filled by, let’s say, China or Russia or Iran? What are your thoughts on that?
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It already is. I mean, you look at who’s on the Human Rights Council, and it’s countries that don’t have a particularly good record on human rights, you know, countries like Iran. What… they’re they’re already these countries are already running things and have an undue influence yeah we have a veto but the UN doesn’t have teeth they pass resolutions and we can veto it we’re one of the five members that can veto things I don’t know maybe the threat of pulling out will be enough to reform it but it certainly for what they’re accomplishing and doing they could do with a far smaller budget and far less taxpayer support and more oversight. I think the threat of pulling out may be enough to reform it, but I don’t see how things would change. If we’re not in it, what are they going to do differently? They’re going to condemn Israel and they’re going to whine and die on each other and look to other countries to support it. They’ll look to the EU to support it. How would it be any different? It’s like they’re not accomplishing much. And whether we’re funding it and supporting it or not, I don’t know that it makes a big difference.
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Well, the U.S., according to your article, contributes 22 percent of the U.N.’ ‘s regular budget and more than 26 percent of its peacekeeping costs. And yet President Trump has stopped, what, six, seven, eight wars now without spending a dime other than picking up the phone and saying, hey, guys, if you want to do business with the U.S., you’ve got to step up and stop the carnage. And so I think the American taxpayer is infuriated by all these non-action that is taking place by the United Nations.
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Exactly. That’s kind of the pay your fair share. You look at our progressive tax code and you see that the top 1% are paying 40-something percent of income taxes. It’s the same idea. It’s… uh punishing the successful and why why are we paying so much why is the eu not paying more it’s the same thing with nato trump took on nato to get them we were we’re supporting nato and everybody else is along for the ride freeloading while u.s taxpayers meanwhile you’ve got people that their snap benefits are running out you’ve got cities like denver that are overwhelmed in crime and homelessness and squalor and potholes in the roads and everything else. And we’re throwing billions of dollars at the U.N. People say enough is enough. You’re wasting money.
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Exactly, yes. And, you know, the U.N. has passed so many anti-Israel resolutions, as you mentioned, and yet, you know, you look around the world and all the other conflicts, this is a democracy in the middle of a very theocratic part of the world, and yet we’re not supporting our one main ally. And I’m concerned about the rise of anti-Jewishness, anti-Semitism, What are your thoughts on that, and how can we address that?
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Well, that’s a big issue, and I certainly separate Israel, the government, from Israel, the people, the Jewish people of the Bible, versus the… Israel has its own deep state, and I think it’s important to separate the government and what they’re doing from the Jewish people, and I think some of the backlashes, we’re spending a lot on Israel, and yes, they are an ally, but we need accountability for money we spend everywhere. It’s a different world now. We’re $37, $38 trillion in debt, and we’re supporting everything and everyone all over the world. And what’s happening in America? What about American families that are living paycheck to paycheck and can’t put Food on the table. Half of Americans have no savings. We need to prioritize America and Americans. And that’s no slight against Israel or any other country that needs our help. But things have to be in perspective. I think we’re starting to see a blowback against that.
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I think most of our expeditionary forays around the world to either prop up other governments or give money, as we have recently done to Argentina, even though Millet is doing a great job down there. I think people, you’re right on the money, people want to spend their money here to fix the problems here. And when you have somebody like Mondavi, who looks like he’s going to be winning in New York, the United Nations may be even a worse problem than we have today.
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Oh, absolutely. Mondavi fits right into the U.N. mold. Kind of a globalist… mentality and mandami is socialist communist take your pick of terms but uh that’s not going to go well for new york city no not at all and you wonder what’s going to happen to that would they turn that into uh low-income housing knowing what he said exactly turtle bay becomes uh affordable housing for uh all the homeless and and illegals in new york city I don’t know what they’re going to do.
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Well, America’s founding principles of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, we believe in equality from the start, but not to give everybody equal finishes. So what are your thoughts as getting this United Nations either off our agenda or walking away and saying move to some other place?
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That’s going to be a heavy lift, but if anyone’s going to do it, Trump’s going to do it. Past Republican presidents might give it lip service, but they wouldn’t do anything. Trump, I think, will apply pressure sufficiently to get something done. He’s raising the issue, and he doesn’t raise these issues by accident. It seems like random talk, but there’s method to the madness, and he’s bringing things people’s attention for a purpose, just like Nigeria. I don’t think that’s random. I don’t think we’re going to be sending military into Nigeria. I certainly hope not. But I think there’s going to be economic pressure applied to clean this up, because America sits by, and we’re a Judeo-Christian nation, and we sit by and watch Christians being slaughtered all over, and yet we’re protecting the borders of all these other countries. And what about us? Look at what we’re spending on Ukraine. And meanwhile, Christians are being slaughtered in Nigeria. And I think people are fed up with that.
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Absolutely.
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In terms of the UN, I think there will be fine. I think the finances is the lever. Money will be the lever to get them to reform and get a change there.
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Well, when we come back from this break, Brian, I’d like to talk to you about the other article you recently wrote, Situation Outrage, How Democrats Normalize Political Violence. And we’ll be right back after this.
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And welcome back. I’m Bradley Beck filling in for Kim Munson, who’s out today. Check out Kim’s website at Kim at Kim Munson dot com. And Kim always has some great people that she partners with. And the Center for American Values is located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk. The center is focused on foundational values of America, honor, integrity and patriotism. Through their K-12 educational programs, training for educators, and portraits of valor of over 160 Medal of Honor recipients, the Center is helping to instill honor, integrity, and patriotism in our next generation. Check them out at their website. It’s AmericanValuesCenter.com. That’s AmericanValuesCenter.com. And we’re talking with Dr. Brian Juneteenth, and he’s a prolific writer. He’s been on The Kim Munson Show, I think, weekly or at least a couple times a month. And he’s written several articles. One we just talked about, Hey, Hey, Ho, Ho, The U.N. Has Got to Go. And the other one that he recently wrote is Situational Outrage, How the Democrats Normalize Political Violence. And Brian, talk a little bit about your intention with this particular essay.
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Well, the example, the lead of that was Melissa Hortman, the Minnesota legislator, was killed, and the U.S. House of Representatives condemned that. They passed a resolution condemning it. I mean, yes, resolution is an empty gesture, but it’s still meaningful in terms of the House was unified, bipartisan, condemning it. it came to charlie kirk’s assassination a large group of democrats would not vote to condemn it so it’s it’s when one of theirs gets killed it’s an outrage but when one of the other side gets killed um apparently it’s justified you have people like aoc and others in the squad they’re calling charlie kirk names and he’s nazis hitler he’s frankenstein he’s all these things and they’re not condemning it uh so it’s they’re only outraged if the situation is favorable to them and that’s the same with with riots you know january 6th was the worst atrocity since uh The Civil War, according to Democrats, but all the BLM Antifa protests in the summer of 2020 that destroyed cities and did billions in property damage, that was all free expression. So it’s who’s protesting and why, and who died and why, and what they condemn and what they don’t condemn. It’s all situational based on politics is kind of the gist of it.
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It has become just an amazing different world from when I’m sure we’re about the same age and when we grew up. And one of the things that I have been talking a lot, especially to high school students, is principles over party. And it used to be that the Democrat Party, the Republican Party, even independents for the most part, unaffiliated folks, would all believe in the principles of the American founding, human rights, individual rights, rule of law, things of this nature. And it seems that that has broken apart so much that the ideology of the left has been, as you mentioned in your first article, it’s become communist or socialist. And I think that’s a big part of the problem. We don’t agree on the same things as we once used to.
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That’s correct. Where’s the bipartisan support of these things of human decency? You can disagree with somebody’s politics, but you don’t celebrate the death of somebody just because you disagree with them. And we see that from the left constantly of celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk. You see it on the late night so-called comedy shows. You see it in the The cable news anchors, you see it on social media, people mocking Charlie Kirk, his death. That’s really abhorrent. This is a man with a wife and children, and you don’t have to agree with them, but Charlie was a good man. He was articulate, and he made his case. To celebrate his death, it’s horrible. You don’t see those on the right celebrating if a Democrat dies. I mean, if anybody’s killed, it’s tragic, and nobody should be celebrating that.
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I would agree with your sentiments. I had the good fortune of running a Lincoln Day dinner with Charlie Kirk many years ago. And nothing but just amazement at this young man and his knowledge and his command of an audience. He was humorous. And one of the things that I appreciated from him, he was a lifelong learner. He was always trying to better himself. He always was talking about Hillsdale dialogues and Hillsdale online courses and challenged himself to learn something new. And I think Today we have so many people that are siloed, they don’t want to learn about anything new because they might be proven wrong. What are your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s correct. I think there’s a line from a Beatles song, living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see. Yep. I don’t know, strawberry fields maybe. I don’t know. My memory’s not that good. But, yeah, that’s what – People do. They live in their echo chamber, and they don’t want to entertain other ideas. And you see that so much on the left. They get their news from CNN or MSNBC, New York Times, Washington Post, and that’s it. That’s gospel. And they’re not going to entertain anything else. They would never watch Fox News, and I wouldn’t call Fox News right-wing. There are a few conservative people on Fox News, but Fox News is very centrist. And on some things, they lean left, just like the Wall Street Journal. These are not bastions of conservatism like they might have been in the past, but the left will steer clear of these because they might get an idea they don’t like and don’t want to deal with.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yes. And, you know, one of the things that you point out in your article is that the left often disguises their scholars or the so-called scholars, but they’re really activists. And it comes to mind is Howard Zinn, somebody who the left puts up as the great American historian. But Howard Zinn is probably one of the worst examples or the 1619 Project and all the lies in that particular education program, so-called. You know, the West is really under attack. And I’m wondering what your thoughts are and how we can push back on this false narrative that the left keeps bringing up.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, you have to push back. You have to correct them and call them out. And and not support these organizations that are doing that. Conservatives go on the Sunday morning talk shows, and unless they’re going to make a very strong, articulate case, they’re better off staying off because they’re going to edit the videos and twist and turn their words, and it’s not advancing the cause. But they just have to be firm and talk back. Charlie Kirk was so good at that. And another one that’s really good at it is J.D. Vance. He is very much like Charlie, that he can command an audience and refute these things. And we just have to do more of that, not go along, not accept the premise. The left always comes out with a premise of… You know, Hitler or Trump is Hitler and he’s a Nazi and fascist. And what do you think about that? Well, we don’t accept the premise. And that has to be nipped in the bud immediately. So it’s just it’s constant pushback. It’s education. It’s reforming the schools because the schools are teaching this nonsense. You look at the teachers and the people that are celebrating Charlie Kirk’s death. Or teachers. It’s ridiculous. And these are the people teaching our next generation.
SPEAKER 22 :
Well, Brian, where can people find out more on your articles and more about where you write?
SPEAKER 04 :
The best place is a Substack. I have a Substack. It’s called Dr. J’s Substack. And follow me there. It doesn’t cost anything. I put all my articles on Substack. I put them up on LinkedIn, Truth Social, and Twitter. And at the end of any article has all of my social media pages where I publish stuff. So that’s, Substack’s the best way because you sign up and you’ll get a, the article will be emailed to you if you’re following me as soon as I put it up. And I have one this morning on the state of medicine, something near and dear to me and why so many doctors are leaving clinical medicine, which- If you’ve been following that, you’ll find it interesting.
SPEAKER 22 :
Well, very good. Thank you, Brian. Appreciate it. And keep the writing up. We appreciate hearing your thoughts.
SPEAKER 04 :
I will. Always a pleasure. Thanks, Brad.
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So we’re fortunate to have that venue here in Colorado. So I want to make sure that people know about that and what it means to our great state. We have many different venues, but Red Rocks is probably one of the best. One of the things I didn’t get the chance to do, and I read an article this weekend in the Rocky Mountain Voice about a pastor, Christine Coleman, who opened a message from a friend from Belgium. And she found out that her name was on Rwanda’s new domestic terrorist list. And it’s amazing because she’s here in America and here in Colorado. And it reminds me of what’s going on with what’s happening in Nigeria with the Christians being slaughtered by the Islamic terrorists that are battling every day to wipe the Christians off basically the planet because they are different than the Islamic terrorists. And one of the things that the article talks about is how her family survived a massacre in Rwanda, and today she’s facing all kinds of persecution from the country of Rwanda. And what I find interesting is that the U.N. takes up the cause of going against Israel constantly, and yet here’s a perfect example of somebody who lived and survived the genocide in that country, and you hear nothing or almost nothing from what happens at the U.N. In the first segment, we had Dr. Brian Jundep talking a little bit about that. And meanwhile, President Trump threatens military action in Nigeria for not protecting the Christians in that nation. 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And welcome back. I’m Bradley Beck, and I’m pleased to host the Kim Munson Show today. Filling in for Kim, who’s away for a couple days. But you can always check out Kim’s website at kimmunson.com. Sign up for her weekly email newsletter, and you’ll get the first look at all her upcoming guests, as well as the most recent essays. You can always email Kim and tell her what a great job I’m doing filling in for her today at kim at kimmunson.com. And thank you for contributing to the support of our independent voice and exercise our right to freedom of speech. And through all of Kim’s work with veterans, she’s honored to highlight the USMC Memorial Foundation’s and all the work that they’re doing to raise money to remodel the official USMC Memorial, which is located right here in Golden, Colorado at 6 and Colfax. Paula Saris is the president of the foundation. She’s a Marine and a Gold Star wife. And Paula and her team are working diligently to make the remodel a reality. Well, you can help by donating to the usmcmemorialfoundation.org and attend their event this Saturday, November 8th, in honor of Veterans Day. I’d encourage you to do that. That’s the usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Well, I had the good pleasure of this last week reading a book that really surprised me because I wasn’t expecting it to be as poetic as it is. And on the line with us, we have Michael Finch, who has spent a lifetime working in nonprofits. He has worked for the Heartland Institute, the Claremont Institute, and most recently as the president of the David Horowitz Freedom Center and the author of a wonderful book, as I mentioned, A Time to Stand, A Dire Hour to Defend American Beauty. Michael, welcome to The Kim Munson Show.
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Oh, Brad, thank you so much for having me on. Good morning. And it’s an honor. I’m very grateful for your having me on today. Thank you.
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Well, we’re glad you joined us. And as I said, I was really surprised because as I was reading the book, I was expecting, you know, the standard, you know, pro-American type of book. And this is heavily focused on poetry. And I thought, boy, what a refreshing way to really talk about America, the founding, and many of the topics that you talk about, which I want to get into.
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Well, thank you, Brad. I mean, I didn’t really mean to approach it, you know, I think as poetic as it turned out to be. But I’ve got to say, and I do write a lot of essays and just about politics and history and so forth, do a lot of writing in general. But I do like to write. I do write poetry. I love poetry. And it’s a way I think what happens when I start writing about America and the landscape, the history, the people, kind of the poet is humble. I’m going to be humble about it. I’m not a professional poet necessarily. I haven’t been trained as a poet, but the poet in me comes out and I want to be descriptive and it moves me. America, the culture and the landscape, the history, the art, all of it is so incredibly beautiful. We have such a dynamic and aspirational culture that I think the poet that kind of sits back in me really comes out, and that’s how the writing came out. And I hope, you know, I’m very moved by America, very moved by its wonderful culture and history, and the book kind of came out of that. So I appreciate you noticing that. I mean, there’s some regular kind of op-ed sort of essays, but… I do lean on the poetry quite a bit and then articles about other poets and I’ve been inspired by a number of poets. So poetry is very important and it’s a great way to kind of be descriptive and talk about the beauty of America.
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And you’ve written two other books in poetry, and I’m curious to read those, but also to understand a little bit more, because I’ve never really written poetry. I’ve written lyrics before that are locked under key, and I don’t share with anybody. But poetry is not an easy medium to write.
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Well, it’s not. It comes to me, and again, I’ve had a few professional poet critics kind of eviscerate my poetry a little bit because I don’t follow the perfect form. But then a lot of modern poetry I read now, I can’t make heads or tails out of it. I have no idea what they’re writing about. And a lot of poetry, of course, you know, it falls into the woke category where it denigrates anything that’s written about America or the history of about the people tends to take a very negative view, kind of the Howard Zinn poetry road, I suppose. So I wanted to write, and I know there are others out there as well, but I wanted to write poetry to talk about the beauty and how it inspires me. So the poetry is really, you know, I love to write poetry. and you know I have a kind of maybe a small fan base but some people it moves some people and it moves only a few people I’m happy because if it inspires people and it’s a way to kind of particularly when I talk about the landscape and the prairie and I don’t think I have a poem about Colorado written yet but I’ve written a lot about the southwest and of course I’m an Illinois native so I write a lot about the the midwest and and it moves me and I think if you Take your time to look at the country, drive across the country. Doesn’t mean you’re going to write a poem. I mean, you write lyrics and lyrics. A lot of poets wrote music as well and vice versa. But so in a way, you are writing poems just in a different style. But there’s something about the landscape of this country that really is incredibly moving. And I’m certainly not a Walt Whitman, but he’s probably our greatest landscape poet. And we talked about the open road, about the open road in the 19th century and the aspirations of America and this kind of incredible land that we occupy and settled. It’s just extraordinary. And it needs to be written and painted and drawn. And in a way, Brad, America was kind of a blank canvas in an artistic way. I know that the Native Americans were here, and, you know, that’s a tragic story. I mean, it was inevitable, but there’s a lot of tragedy to it. And we can talk about that. You know, America is a beautiful country. We’ve had our faults and stains, but we’re still a beautiful country that’s aspirational. I think that has overcome whatever faults that the left tries to put on us.
SPEAKER 22 :
Well, one of the things I find myself doing is when I’m reading poetry, I have to slow down and really figure out the intention of the words as opposed to an article, which you just read and then you may retain it, you may not. But with poetry, if you really want to get the gist of it, you really have to slow down. Wouldn’t you agree?
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, very much so. I mean, when I’m reading, I mean, you know, Not every poet, but I’d say 90 percent. I’ve got to pull out a book or start Googling and say, what does that sentence mean? I mean, you know, one of the greatest poems in the 20th century was The Wasteland by T.S. Eliot. If you can read that in one sitting and be able to interpret everything that he writes and that, you know, they said it was most influential, greatest poem of the century. If you read it once, I read it once. I had to read it. I’ve read it hundreds of times, and I always have to kind of go and what does he mean by that? So some poetry, you’ve really got to read it slow and kind of educate yourself. But then once you do understand it, the beauty in a poem, for the most part, can really come out. But, yeah, I’m the same way, and I think most people are. Anyone who says they can read any poet and understand exactly You know, you read Shakespeare, you know, that was a long time ago. I’ve got to read that real slow. That does not come to me in one fast reading. I imagine it probably doesn’t for most people, maybe some, but I understand exactly what you’re saying.
SPEAKER 22 :
Well, so you really explore some key themes throughout the, as I like to say, the celebration of our heritage, our American heritage, and in particular, Western civilization. And I noticed that you really convey a spirit of optimism, patriotism, and Americans to remember and uphold the ideas that we have in this country, liberty, our national pride. Talk a little bit about how you put this particular book together.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, I’ve written them. Some of these essays are current. Some are a few years old. And I’ve got to have the editor. I work for, of course, the David Horowitz Freedom Center, and our flagship website is frontpagemag.com. The editor of frontpagemag.com, Jamie Glassoff, is the one that really kind of – I wrote the articles, but he edited it and put them together. It was kind of his kind of idea to form all these essays into kind of a coherent – group with the introductions and everything. So I have to thank Jamie a lot. My feeling, Brad, was American history has been denigrated. I’m working with David Horowitz, who, as you know, was raised as a Marxist by communist parents. He spent half of his life trying to destroy America. He was a Marxist revolutionary. And then he had to switch halfway through his life. And he I’ve been working – I worked for him. He just passed away earlier this year, unfortunately. But I worked for him for 23 years, and he taught us about what the left is trying to do. And the left, as he would say, it’s the long march through the institutions since the 1960s, taking over education, destroying the family, taking over media, Hollywood. And what they’ve done to American history – I mentioned the Howard Zinn version – But they want to denigrate American history. And the left ultimately wants to create this tear down America because they want to create this new utopia, this kind of heaven on earth. And in order to do that, you have to destroy and denigrate what came before it. We saw this with Lenin and Stalin and the Soviet Union, Mao Zedong in China. You have to burn down the house before you can build this supposedly perfect new house. And in doing that, America was apparently not founded in 1776. It was founded in 1619. We’re a racist, sexist country that came, you know, Christopher Columbus came here to despoil the environment. We’re an imperialistic, genocidal, you know, that is not our history. And we should not be teaching our children. You can, again, teach them about some of the slavery and the Native Americans. We’ve done some things, you know, prejudice and so forth. But we’ve overcome those and redressed those sins. I think, in a miraculous way. And this is the greatest experiment in human history. I believe that. And I wanted to write about that. And I think it’s important, you know, conservatives, I hate, I’m sorry, going on and on, but conservatives are great at talking about the Constitution, the Declaration, the Federalist Papers, and that’s great. We need to teach those in the schools. But we don’t really teach about the history of our culture, the art, the poetry, the literature, the architecture. The landscape painters. I mean, we have an incredible cultural history that’s beautiful. And I and that’s I’ve had to learn. I didn’t learn that in school very much. I’m in my 60s. But even then, I mean, you know that the schools were already turning, but I was self-taught and that led me down all these paths to discover this incredible beauty of our culture. And I wanted to spread that knowledge through the book. So somebody might pick it up and learn about an author or a painter or a beautiful building architect. And hopefully that’ll move people to learn a little bit more about the wonders of our culture.
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Well, Michael, you know, we have lots to talk about, and I’d like to dig in this deeper. And we’ll be right back after this message from one of our sponsors.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. I’m Bradley Beck. While Kim is taking the day off, I’m filling in and glad to do so. Kim’s website is kimmunson.com, where you can sign up for her weekly email newsletter and get the first look at all our upcoming guests as well as the most recent essays. You can download her voter’s guide by clicking the red ribbon at the top of the website. And you can always email Kim at kimmunson.com. And we always appreciate you for contributing to support our independent voice and the exercise of our right to freedom of speech. And speaking of which, we’re speaking with Michael Finch, president of the David Horowitz Freedom Center and author of the recent book, A Time to Stand, The Dire Hour to Defend American Beauty. And Michael, you have some core themes in your book that I’d like to explore because I think American beauty, as you said in the first segment, is a highlight that we don’t spend the time to talk about. And in particular, the landscapes and the richness of our culture.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, it’s unfortunate, Brad. And again, as I mentioned right before the break, you know, I you know went to school in the 70s went to college in the 80s so you know it was a little while ago but even then the schools had turned and and you know a lot of the american history that was taught we really didn’t learn anything about american culture you know a lot of the you know albert bierstadt and thomas cole two of the greatest landscape painters not just in american history but in history i mean just incredible painters they traveled you know starting with the hudson river all the way to the pacific ocean and their landscape paintings are incredible And it really speaks to the aspirations of America. But I didn’t learn about those. I didn’t learn about them in school, the Hudson School of Art, which is just incredible. Or the writer Willa Cather from Nebraska who wrote at the beginning of the 20th century. I had never read her in school. I was never assigned. I didn’t even know who she was. And I read a book by Joseph Epstein, who’s kind of a conservative, and he called her perhaps America’s greatest novelist. And I knew the name, but I’d never read her. And this was only a couple of years ago. And I’ve read all of her books, an incredible writer talking about America, one of the greatest writers. Again, why aren’t we educating our children about the wonders? American architecture, the federal buildings, the state capital there in Denver, all across the country, some beautiful, beautiful buildings, all built in the classical style, most of the state capitals. Washington, D.C. has some really ugly modern architecture, but some of the federal buildings that were built, and that’s what Thomas Jefferson wanted. He wanted the buildings built along Greek and Roman classical lines, with some changes, of course, but it stands out. He didn’t want us to look like London. He wanted America to, and all of this was to, because the culture binds us, the literature, the poetry, the architecture, it all binds us into the aspirations of the unity and the beauty of America. So Why aren’t we teaching these things? Why aren’t we learning about the great architects and the great buildings? And, you know, just to bring this up to date, in Donald Trump’s first administration, right at the end of the first term, he enacted an executive order. The left kind of, well, they totally eviscerated it. They called it the Make Buildings Beautiful Act or something. That wasn’t what Trump called it, but he wanted federal buildings to be, any new federal buildings to be built along classical lines. which is the exact same thing that Thomas Jefferson and the founders had wanted when Washington, D.C. was being planned. He was immediately attacked as a fascist architecture and dictator, Nazi architecture, went on and on. And Joe Biden, when he became president, one of the first things he did is he rescinded that order. And I mentioned in the book, the left hates beauty and beauty and art and beauty and music and all of that as a songwriter. I mean, I mean, You know, we try to kind of aspire to greatness in our art. You know, we try to kind of reach to the heavens. You know, Johann Sebastian Bach had written that every piece of music he wrote was to the honor and glory of God. Now, not everything that we do is in that light. But when you try to have a piece of art or a piece of music or a painting or a building, you know, the great cathedrals that reach towards the heavens, That’s when we can get close to heaven and we can express that in our glory to God and our art. And it’s not just a Christian thing, right? The Greeks and Romans were pre-Christian and they built some of the most incredible, beautiful buildings during antiquity that the world has ever seen because they were aspiring for something else. And they wanted the citizens, the Greek and Roman citizens to see these buildings and and the greatness of their culture and their civilization because they were proud of that civilization, and we should be proud of our civilization and honor the history and the culture.
SPEAKER 22 :
Well, you bring up another point about the resilience of the American society and how our culture is frequently celebrated, and yet now today you have the nihilists and you have the people tearing down statues during the Floyd riots, and yet, you know, we— as Americans are able to withstand adversity. And you have several chapters in your book about standing up to adversity. And in fact, one of my favorite chapters is 22, which is Reflections on Peace, Poetry, and War.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, I’ve really, I’ve reread that a few times and I, you know, that kind of touched. I mean, at least thank you for saying that because that chapter meant a lot to me. So I’ve done a number of interviews and Brad, you’re the first person to bring up that chapter. So I. I really do appreciate it. I mean, look, we’ve been through, as a people, we’ve been, you know, civil war and strife and, you know, the civil rights and all the things that Americans have been through. And look, other countries, other civilizations go through similar kind of trials. But America, you know, kind of stands apart and stands above all that. And there’s such beauty in that. Again, the aspirations of, you know, the American dream, the kind of the creed and and believing in liberty and freedom, we have a way of seeing going through all of those trials and coming out stronger. And look, I’m very optimistic. It is a dire hour. The left will never. One of the things David Horowitz again taught us, you know, conservatives wake up every morning. They want to take care of their families, get their kids to school, work hard and have, you know, make a living. I mean, that’s what conservatives strive for. And liberals, the left, really, we don’t want to call them liberals anymore. The left wakes up every day wanting to save the squirrels, in a sense. That’s what David used to put in his speeches. Look, they’re going to wake up every day to create this utopia. And that means every day we have to be vigilant in fighting back. We’re never going to necessarily win the war, but we have to keep winning the battles to push the left back. And we can do that by honoring our country and overcoming all the adversity and and the left trying to kind of denigrate and teach our children that we shouldn’t be proud of this great country. We absolutely should be proud of this country. And as far as the peace and war, look, I’ve always been, I don’t even like the term isolationist, but we go, the founders, don’t go and destroy, don’t go and create and destroy monsters on the other end of the world. defend the homeland. And I believe very strongly in that. We need to have a strong defense, a strong military. We need to defend ourselves. And we do have friends around the world that we want to help in a time of need. But I think, you know, we’ve gone sometimes through history, we’ve gone too far the other way in nation building and trying to save the world, save the world for democracy. I don’t even know what that means. We need to stand up for America and and make America strong. So war comes at such an awful price that it kind of breaks your heart. It does break your heart when you look at sometimes the American men and women who have gone abroad and died. And I think some of those wars and some of the struggles we’ve been in You know, I wish we had had a little more sober thinking about, again, how destructive war is. And we fought when we had to. And there’s been some wars that we we needed to fight and we needed to defend the homeland. I understand that. But I think we need to have kind of a perspective on just in that chapter. You talk about World War One, which I think is the war that turned Western civilization and I think it was the most destructive war, I think, in modern history. It ended Christendom in a certain sense in Europe. I just think we’re still paying the price and feeling the impact and effects of World War I. That’s the war that I just thought was incredible. It destroyed generations.
SPEAKER 22 :
It did. And I’ve been to the World War I Museum in Kansas City, which I encourage listeners to go to because it’s absolutely incredible. But one of the things that you brought up with this war poetry and people like Ivor Gurney and Yates, it gave me a sense of learning a little bit about what my grandfather went through in World War I. And he would never talk about it. I have his medals from then. And he got gassed and it affected his whole life. And as I’m reading this, you know, not just in Flanders Fields, but some of these incredible poems at the time, they really had an impact on me.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, I’m sure. And that, again, that war in particular, because the world that, you know, before 1914 was a completely different world. It was a hopeful world. I mean, that war, I mentioned Willie Cather. She said, you know, around 1920, the world kind of broke in two, which is right after the war. And that changed everything. It changed, you know, it She was a writer, of course, but it really changed everything. That’s for T.S. Eliot, The Wasteland. And I think American art, you know, Hemingway and Steinbeck, great writers, but our literature turned very cynical. It really changed everything. And you mentioned, it’s interesting, Brad, my grandfather fought in France. He came home and he never wanted to talk. He wasn’t gassed, but, you know, he never wanted to talk about, and there’s a little you know, grandson, I wanted to hear war stories and he didn’t want to tell the war stories. And so the one thing about Ivor Gurney and some of the, you know, they talked about the, how horrible the war was, but Gurney in particular looked back to England, the landscape of England, um, and, and talked about how beautiful it was and how the people and how he missed it. And the, the beauty, I mean, he ended up going into a mental asylum and dying, um, the war really, he was, you know, probably had some issues before the war, but his poetry always went back to the part of England he was from and talked about how beautiful it was of the people and the landscape of England. That’s where he kind of held onto and that helped him survive the war in that sense. So, you know, even in those circumstances, you can find beauty, you know, you have to, um, and, and he found it in, in his fellow, uh, soldiers and his landscape and the remembrances of home, um, So at least that always gives us hope. And I think, you know, through the Civil War, the Civil War could have obviously destroyed us. It didn’t. We were able to rise above it and stay united. Thank God. And, you know, some great literature came out of the Civil War as well. And that started kind of, you know, united the country. We came together. So, again, overcoming the adversity is something that I think Americans are really unique in some ways. We can go through these trials and come out stronger, and that really says something. And a lot of that’s our faith in God, obviously. There’s a lot of factors there. Yeah, it’s really an incredible story.
SPEAKER 22 :
It really is. I once got to hear a YouTube video of a World War I veteran, and somebody asked him, the interviewer asked him, what was it like? And he said, it was sublime. And I always thought that was an interesting comment. Yeah, pretty much so. I want to talk more about David Horowitz and how you’re getting to work for the organization, David Horowitz Freedom Center Happened, and the defense of values that he always pushed on. And we’ll do that right after this message.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. I’m Bradley Beck filling in. I’m pleased to do it today. Kim’s out for a few days, but you can always check out Kim’s Web site at Kim Munson dot com. Sign up for a weekly email newsletter and get the first look at our upcoming guests and the most recent essays. And you can always email Kim at Kim at Kim Munson dot com. And we were talking about values with Michael Finch, and something that you should be on your bucket list is the Center for American Values, located on the beautiful Riverwalk in Pueblo, Colorado. The Center for American Values was co-founded by Medal of Honor recipient Drew Dix and Emmy Award-winning documentary maker Brad Padula. The Center is focused on honoring our Medal of Honor recipients and teaching and upholding the principles of America. which are honor, integrity, and patriotism. For more information, check out their website at AmericanValueCenter.org. And definitely, if you listen to podcasts, listen to Drew Dix’s podcast. It’s fabulous. We’re talking, as I mentioned, with Michael Finch. He has a book out called A Time to Stand, The Dire Hour to Defend American Beauty. the defense of values and when we left off I asked him about David Horowitz and his relationship with working at the organization that David Horowitz started and I had the good fortune of meeting David several times and listening to his lectures and so I’m curious how your relationship started and what your thoughts are on he just you mentioned he just recently passed away he did and the last I think about seven years of his life he lived in Parker Colorado he had
SPEAKER 20 :
He was raised in Queens, New York, and went out to Berkeley during the crazy days of the 60s and stayed in California up until just a few years ago and then moved to Colorado and just passed away earlier this year. Like I said, I’ve been with David for 23 years, and I’ve been working with Larry Arnn, of course, now the president of Hillsdale College. Great. And we have a lot of problems at the university and our campus. colleges. Hillsdale is one of the shining examples of how a college should be, and he’s the president of Hillsdale. He was the president, one of the founders of the Claremont Institute in Claremont, California, and I worked for him for a few years, about six years, and then when he went to Hillsdale, there were some changes, and David was looking for kind of an executive director, someone to help him at the Freedom Center, and I knew about David and his work, and I jumped at the opportunity, and I never looked back, and I’ve learned a lot. I mean, I’ve been alive. I don’t have the same story as David. I was never a Marxist or on the left. I was a conservative from day one. And the thing about David was, I mean, he again, he wanted to atone for those sins and educate citizens, particularly Republicans and conservatives, about how dangerous the intentions of the left. And, you know, I learned a lot because I always thought, well, it can’t be that bad. And then and then sure enough, it was even worse. And David As you probably know, Brad, he was always way ahead of the curve on things, talking about the campuses and education, talking about the left taking over media and Hollywood. All of these things, the foundations, you know, the great foundations, Ford and MacArthur and Heinz, so many of these big foundations, they’ve all been taken over. About 90 percent of them have been taken over by the left. The founders of these foundations, the titans of industry, were conservative for the most part. And then you get to the grandchildren and beyond and they they’ve completely been taken over by the left. And so, you know, billions of dollars are going into these left wing kind of causes that are so destructive and hate America. David wrote about that. I mean, there’s so many things that I was able to learn. But the one thing is, look at the left again to create this kind of utopia and that. That impulse to create utopia, this heaven on earth, or to be God ourselves, has been there since the garden. I mean, this is not new, and it will never end until, well, there will be an end time at some point. But this is what the left does. And that impulse has been with us in human nature forever. And it will always be there. So we have to continue, again, to be so vigilant in fighting it. And they want to destroy. They want to destroy, you know, the family, our faith, our country, our history. And David said we can never you know, we need to be aware of that every day. And he became an incredible patriot, loving America, loving our history. And that’s what he dedicated his life to, that, you know, we need to understand that we’re in a we’re in a kind of existential battle that will never stop. You know, Ronald Reagan said, you know, we have to fight every generation, every generation. This liberty has to be protected and fought for because we could lose it that easily. So that’s the and I appreciate everything you’re doing. And and, you know, we need to be vigilant and continue to fight. And I really I’ve learned so much from David. It’s just been and we’re still you know, we’ve got a great team and great writers. We’re going to keep keep the mission and preserve his legacy and continue to educate citizens about the dangers of left and radical Islam, which I talked about in a couple of chapters as well. David called them the unholy alliance, the radical left and radical Islam. And he wrote that before anyone really took it seriously. So Again, so far ahead of the curve. He had such great understanding of what was happening in this country.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yes, he did. And we just had a caller, Ron, who just reminded us that, you know, the left is so cult-like. And you bring up that red-green axis that I first read from David Horowitz years ago. Hmm. And it’s amazing that how far ahead he was in talking about it unabashedly and getting criticized left and right. So thanks to the caller, Ron, for mentioning that. But one of the things I think that that David did so well is he talked about it and was willing to have a debate, much like Charlie Kirk.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, David loved it. He loved it. I remember, as a matter of fact, he was at the University of Colorado. After 9-11, he came out and had a debate with Ward Churchill, who was a professor at Colorado, if I’m not mistaken. Yeah, I remember. He was eager. He never hesitated. He didn’t, you know, he would have a debate with anyone. He always wanted to debate people like Howard Zinn and the Ward Churchills. Many of them would never, you know, Ward Churchill agreed. Many of them did not want to debate David, but he believed very strongly he’d go onto the campuses and And he would talk and engage with anyone. And of course, you know, a lot of the students that came loved him, but a lot of them didn’t. I mean, he was shouted down and he needed security, but he wanted to get down on the floor and have conversations. And that’s exactly right. Charlie Kirk, who David was one of the mentors for Charlie coming to, he came to some free to center events when he was only a teenager and um you know charlie felt the same way that we you know david knew that was hard to reason with the leftists but he couldn’t he couldn’t help it um he wanted to engage in the conversation and he always kind of he was an optimist and felt like if he could just talk to someone because he had that background he had been on the left you know he had believed in all those false illusions on the utopia and he thought that he could talk people about his experience and and he did change some people there were some There’s a number of people that he was able to turn that had second, you know, David and his writing partner, Peter Collier, created the second thoughts movement, this whole kind of coming out of the left. And he created second thoughts in a number of people, Brad, and had a huge impact.
SPEAKER 22 :
Your book, Michael, has an optimism and it’s almost defiant, saying that the American spirit will endure. We have about four minutes to wrap this up. What are your final thoughts on this and how do we keep that optimism going?
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, I believe very strongly. Look, Americans are, we certainly have a radical left. Look what’s going to happen in New York City here in the next week or so. It’s really scary, but You know, overall in there, you know, I’ve lived in Illinois and California. And, you know, so these these are these are pretty left wing states, obviously. But overall, I think I believe in the faith and the common sense of the American people. I have no question the majority of Americans want to love. They do love this country and they want to love our history and our culture. Look, we’ve elected Donald Trump twice, you know, maybe three times. Yeah. Separate conversation for another day. But I mean, you know, I think that’s a testament to the American people want America. We want America to be great. And we believe in our look, you know, teach at home about, you know, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln. You talked about taking statues down. They started with Robert E. Lee and then they started taking Abraham Lincoln statue down, the great emancipator. It’s crazy. But we love that history. You know, teach your children about Daniel Boone and Davy Crockett. There’s such great stories about the West settling this country. And we have such an incredible history. And Americans want to hear about that. They want to love their country, love the history, and learn about the culture. So I’m very optimistic in the long run. I mean, it doesn’t mean we’re not. We’re going to win in for some real battles. But I think in the long run, the goodness and my faith, I think the faith of the American people will outlast and will ultimately win these battles. Again, we’re going to have to keep fighting the overall war forever. But I am optimistic, Brad.
SPEAKER 22 :
Well, and I really enjoyed your book, especially there’s a little remembrance there of, I think you mentioned Roscoe Boulevard, where I used to live in the San Fernando Valley. So I really appreciate that.
SPEAKER 20 :
It’s changed. I don’t know when you live there, but parts of the valley have changed dramatically. But, you know, maybe we can turn the valley around as well.
SPEAKER 22 :
You know, make the valley great again, right?
SPEAKER 20 :
I love it. We’ll start the campaign.
SPEAKER 22 :
Well, Michael, I appreciate your time. Your book is A Time to Stand, A Dire Hour to Defend American Beauty. And where can people find out more?
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, Amazon.com or Barnes & Noble’s, you know, the regular websites. But, again, I mentioned FrontPageMag.com, which is the Freedom Center’s website. We have a bookstore. You can order the book from there as well. So the regular outlets. But, again, Brad, I’m very thankful, very grateful. Thank you for having me on, and I appreciate it. I hope I can come back sometime.
SPEAKER 22 :
Well, I’ll let Kim know you’re a great interviewer, and we appreciate what you do at the David Horowitz Center. And thank you so much for being on The Kim Munson Show. Okay.
SPEAKER 20 :
Thank you for everything you do, Brad. Thank you. Thank you.
SPEAKER 22 :
And ladies and gentlemen, the end of the show quote is from Edward de Bono. There is, I should say, quote, there is no doubt that creativity is the most important human resource of all. Without creativity, there would be no progress. we would be forever repeating the same patterns, end of quote. And that’s from Edward de Bono, and he’s written some great books I encourage you to read. As you can tell, I love reading all kinds of books, and Michael Finch’s book is really excellent to get, and I think you’ll enjoy it because it has great poetry in it. And speaking of which, today be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. You are not alone. God bless you and God bless America. And stay tuned for tomorrow. Marshall Dawson will be here hosting the radio show for Kim Munson. We appreciate you listening. and having a successful day. And one more thing, go out and make a difference, and everybody will be better off for it. Thanks for listening to The Kim Munson Show.
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And fast on a rough road riding High to the mountains climbing Twisting, turning further from my home Young like a new moon rising Fierce to the rain enlightening Wandering out into this great unknown And I don’t want no one to cry. But tell them if I do.
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