Join John Rush and Andy Peth on this delightful Friday edition of Rush to Reason, where cinematic magic takes center stage! As always, set in the picturesque setting of Denver, the duo dives into an intriguing analysis of multiple films, led by the much-anticipated review of ‘Now You See Me, Now You Don’t’. With humor and wit, they unravel the many facets of the film, discussing character dynamics and the effects of CGI magic on the cinematic experience.
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Now, here is your host of Rush to Reason, John Rush.
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And it’s that time Friday. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes. And it’s a really nice day today. It is beautiful. What are we doing in here? I don’t know, but we’ll take it.
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All right, we have three movies today, right? Yes, we do. All right, what are they?
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Okay, they are Now You See Me, Now You Don’t, The Carpenter’s Son, and The Running Man.
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Okay, so we’ve got three movies. So you guys, we’re going to do this. We’ll take a really quick break. We’ll come back. We’ll get rolling along so we can get all of these in. We’ll probably have a little time at the end to do our question of the day and all of that. Next hour, what are we doing, Andy? NFL picks and…
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And we’re going to do movies with magic.
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Movies with magic.
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Any kind of magic in a movie. Why? Because, of course, we’re doing Now You See Me, Now You Don’t.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate and John. Are you ready for a movie?
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Absolutely.
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All right, John. Well, it’s the third in a magical series with Now You See Me, Now You Don’t.
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Did you think we abandoned you or that we’d run out of magic? Well, think again, ladies and gentlemen. It’s been 10 years since the horseman last appeared. It is very good to be back. Still got it. We have three days to prepare a trick bigger and better than anything you have ever seen. It’s a 10 million to one shot. Those are my kind of odds.
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Bringing down two generations of criminals with a single sleight of hand.
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I mean, I have kind of missed running for my life and jumping off roofs with you guys.
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It’s good to have you back.
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I’m really looking forward to taking you down.
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Diamonds are forever. Up is down. Left is right. Whoa. It’s nothing. He’s basically a computer full of useless information. Magicians are entertainers. Not superheroes.
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Why can’t we be both?
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There you go, John. Why can’t they be both?
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Good question.
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Good question. Let’s find out. Well, we start with the four original horsemen, and actually there are seven names here. Now, I’m going to reel them off. You don’t have to remember them, but if you happen to know one, good. All right, here we go. The horsemen are, by the way, these entertainers. Okay, these magicians. Atlas, who’s played by Jesse Eisenberg. Merritt, who’s played by Woody Harrelson. You know him. Wilder, who’s played by Dave Franco, who, by the way, I like a lot.
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Mm-hmm.
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Reeves, who’s played by Isla Fisher. They, at the beginning, are scamming crypto dealers, which is pretty fun. Then we add three more, and they’re young ones. Let’s see if you know any of these. Bosco, he’s played by Dominic Sessa. Do you know him? He’s good. Charlie, played by Justice Smith. He’s been in a few things. And June, she’s been in quite a bit. She’s played by young bombshell Ariana Greenblatt, and she’s been in quite a few things. Well, these youngsters are a team exposing scammers. Okay, so you got seven magicians there, all right? Well, Atlas approaches the young trio with a proposition. Help us steal the heart diamond from the leader of an international diamond seller, Veronica Vanderberg, that’s played by Rosamund Pike. I think you know her. Well, obviously, this involves a lot of magic, misdirection, and sleight of hand, so we see both teams dazzling us with their abilities. We also have an underlying personal motive, which I will not share. There is plenty of generational bickering between the two teams. That’s kind of fun, right? So you’ve got the old ones and the new ones, and they’re kind of ripping on each other. So you’ve got some of that back and forth. I enjoy that. But there’s also a mystery. Just what is Veronica up to? What is her past? As all this comes out, we see Veronica has made some very dangerous enemies. So you’ve got a bad guy who has other bad guys who want to get the bad guy. She’s in kind of a hard way. Well, Veronica, she needs the diamond to protect herself. But the horsemen, they’re incredible at misdirection. Can they steal it? Can they steal this diamond? And Veronica has vast wealth and dangerous killers working for her. Can they get through that? And by the way, even if they steal it, can they survive it? Will they all survive it? How many of the horsemen can survive this entire ordeal? Well, it’s old meets new with lots of magic tricks in. Now you see me, now you don’t. What do you think?
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If it’s as good as the rest of them, I always like them. They’re pretty fun, aren’t they? I enjoy the movies, yes, very much so.
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Yeah. Okay, well, what works in Now You See Me, Now You Don’t? Well, the first half, first of all, very good. Introducing characters, forming chemistry, sort of. Okay. It’s a lot of characters, John. It’s a lot of characters. Displaying lots of magic tricks is fun, along with setting the plot. So all of that is good. The acting, it’s all fine, right in line with the writing. Everyone does their part. But Dominic Sessa, one of the new ones, he stands out as Bosco. He’s charismatic, but he’s also able to weave in lots of other personalities with his disguises. He is really, really good. I would say he’s probably the strongest member of the entire thing. Jesse Eisenberg, of course, is at his wisecracking best. He’s one of these actors… And I don’t know any other actor who is equally good at being really cocky, confident, and talking down to people, and also being the other extreme where he is the shy one being overwhelmed. And Jesse Eisenberg can do both, and he does it very well here. Well, there’s a scene where everyone performs a trick, one after the other after the other. It’s a very impressive scene. So that works. Very impressive. And also we have some fight scenes that are fairly well choreographed. Now, of course, a lot of the magic is CGI, which is helping them. So there you go. And with CGI, you can make everything look incredible these days. Okay, what doesn’t work? And now you see me, now you don’t. This is an overwhelming smug fest. Everyone is so smug. I’m telling you what. After a little bit, it gets old, John. It really gets old. Please quit being so smug. Quit being so full of yourselves. Quit being so confident. It’s a smug-a-lanch. All right? Everyone is so ridiculously confident. You feel like the stupid person at a Mensa party watching this thing.
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Gotcha.
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All right? Well, this makes it hard to actually like or care about anyone on the screen at all. And this is something I was really noticing. I’m being entertained here, and I’m liking some of the things that are happening. I don’t like any of these people at all. There’s nothing about any of them that is endearing. And, you know, I really felt that in the earlier movies they were. But in this one, they’re all so smug. They just weren’t very endearing at all. It’s just a bunch of people who are very, very happy with themselves. The second half of the movie, well, the energy bogs down. As character interactions, they feel forced after a while. And I think this is a result of too many characters, John. It’s like the cast is so big, so they’re interacting with familiarity. Suddenly they’re very familiar with each other, but it hasn’t been built. It feels fakey. Here’s another problem. No real tension. And I know they have some very dangerous moments, but with all the danger, the smug confidence of the characters, it tells us they’re always going to have another trick up their sleeve. And that’s very predictable. Yawn. Secondly, there’s an awful lot of CGI. I mean, they aren’t really doing tricks that much. And you know it. It kind of looks fake after a while. Next, a ridiculous scene where a new girl, the new girl, makes the old guy look dumb. How many times have we seen this? A lot. Yes. So where he’s very confident he can do it. And I’ll just say it’s Dave Franco. He’s the confident one. And bombshell, as I call her, Ariana Greenblatt, because she really is. And she’s the one, the newbie. And, of course, she makes him look dumb and does something that he can’t. Ha, ha, ha. How many times have we seen that?
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A lot.
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Yeah. The new girl makes the old guy look dumb. Double yawn. Okay. And finally, the usual anti-capitalist preaching. Triple yawn.
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Mm-hmm.
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Guys, just do the story. Steal the diamond, do something, okay? And let’s enjoy the interaction. I’ll be honest, John, I feel that there was a lot of good with this movie, a lot of good things. I really enjoyed some of the interactions between the characters. I thought Bosco was terrific. Greenblatt, you know, she does her thing, of course. I love Franco, and I love Eisenberg. I love Woody Harrelson, although I didn’t feel that he was really on his game in this. He seemed a little slow. He just didn’t seem on his game in this movie. And I was just… I love a lot of them, but I was just thinking, you know, you’ve got too many of these people, and you’re trying to develop so many of them at once, and the chemistry really isn’t there. So you’re impressing me all over the screen, all right? And by the way, that’s fun. That’s entertaining enough. I mean, let’s face facts. There’s a lot of movies out that haven’t been impressing me at all. So it’s got that, and I like that, but you’re trying to do too many people, too much stuff, and all this CGI. And then, of course, you get in all this preaching with it, anti-capitalist preaching. It’s like, guys… With everything else you’re trying to do, you don’t have time to preach.
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Right.
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No offense.
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No, good point.
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Yeah. Okay, Rotten Tomatoes, they were not in love with this movie. Last I saw, 59%, but it was falling. Okay, so it’ll probably wind up in the mid-50s. They were not in love with this movie. I’m going to put it right about, hmm, this is tough. I’m going to be a little nicer than that. I’m going to give it three and a half stars. Okay. And it’s, it’s rough. I didn’t know if I’d go three or three and a half. It’s not a strong three and a half. And just because of the smuggle launch. Okay. It’s just so smug. Um, this is the most smugness I think I’ve ever seen it. 007 is not this confident, as these characters are in this movie. And you got seven of them. Okay. I’m going to give it three and a half stars. Why? Just sheer entertainment quality. But I don’t care about any of the characters. Had I cared about any of them, it would have been a four. Political, one, for obvious reasons. Moral, religious, three, no problem. It doesn’t preach on that level at all. Do I recommend going to Now You See Me, Now You Don’t? Well, first of all, if you’ve seen the first two, you’re going to want to, right? Because you want to see the story continue. And they’re setting up more here. But secondly, I just think it’s a pretty good movie. I think it’s a good movie. A good, solid movie.
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Not a great movie, but a good movie.
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Yeah, not great because they’re trying to do too much.
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The best export we have is common sense. You’re listening to Rush to Reason.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. John Rush! together with Andy Pate. And John, are you ready for another movie?
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Absolutely.
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I’ve got two more.
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Absolutely.
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It’s been a long week.
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I need to go see a movie one of these days.
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Yeah, you haven’t been in a while.
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No, I’ve got to take time and go someday.
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What happened for a while there? You were going more.
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I just got busy. You know, life.
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Just life.
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Yeah.
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Okay. Well, John, I’ll bet you never thought about seeing a Jesus horror movie.
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No, I did not. Charlie was telling me about this yesterday. I’m just like, yeah, this sounds interesting.
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Well, hey, why not? In The Carpenter’s Sun.
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What awaits us when we turn at last to death? Let my faith endure.
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Faith. My only strength to bear against the devil itself.
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For years we live in hiding. Driven from every home. He bears a power he cannot understand. A power I cannot contain. Is he my father? Who put that in your mind? Do you want to know a secret?
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I know one that can free you.
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Who are you?
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You know who I am.
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Is he from your angels or from daemons?
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You were always afraid, greatly afraid.
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My faith has been shattered!
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I’m the accuser of life. I am the adversary. And why am I here? To torment me.
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All right, well, John, what do you think?
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I was telling Charlie yesterday, this one seems weird.
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Yeah, it does. Well, Nicolas Cage lately is getting weirder and weirder and weirder.
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I can’t argue that.
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Okay, well, let’s set the stage with the stars, okay? While their names aren’t mentioned, this story is clearly about Joseph, Mary, and their son, Jesus, okay? Joseph is played by Nicolas Cage. Mother Mary is played by FKA Twigs. And their young son, Jesus, is played by Noah Juppe, all right? The villain is the devil, played by Isla Johnston.
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All right.
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After a tough birth, Joseph and Mary flee the manger. I guess it’s a manger. Okay. It’s so dark it could be a tool shed for all I know. I can’t really tell. Maybe in this Jesus story, they haven’t even discovered fire. Okay. It’s just so dark. But they flee. For the leaders are killing kids to stop this chosen one, which, by the way, was happening. Right? They were going around killing children. firstborns and trying to stop Jesus. Well, years later, Jesus is a teen whose dad, Joseph, and once again, that’s Nicolas Cage, is determined to hide because of his powers. Obviously, he wants to keep his kids safe, right? Because he doesn’t want them to find out that he has the chosen one for his son. Very difficult. Well, years later has passed. Now, Joseph is angry at Jesus a lot. Think about that. I mean, this Joseph is angry at his son, Jesus. Joseph is a good carpenter, but he’s angry Joseph. I’m going to call him angry Joseph. Mary talks a little, but mostly just stares. She’s staring Mary. So I’m going to call her staring Mary, all right? But strangest of all is Jesus. Understand, folks, this comes from supposedly the apocryphal books, and this was the book of Thomas, supposedly. Somehow I think that this is a… You know, big divergence from the book of Joseph. Thomas, I have no idea. I haven’t read it, but there you go. So angry Joseph staring Mary. But Jesus, he must constantly be reminded to pray. Doesn’t seem to want to. He has a David moment watching a nude woman bathe. He disobeys his parents. I call him rogue Jesus. Yeah. OK, and he is he is pretty easily swept up in temptation by a girl boy who has been waiting forever for him. I call this tranny Satan.
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Wow.
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Yes. As an actress plays a genderless teen devil. okay yeah and that’s uh isla johnston who’s actually a very pretty young actress but she’s playing this genderless uh teen devil well anyway at one point tranny satan takes rogue jesus to see the lepers and pushes jesus into one of the lepers so shoves him into one of the lepers unclean unclean that’s right well it was later learned that the leper was healed as a result revealing rogue jesus’s power oh my goodness well now the secret’s out and angry joseph is really angry After yelling at Rogue Jesus, he prepares to once again pick up and move the family. But Rogue Jesus won’t stop. He heals the locust. Okay, he heals the locust, perhaps so it can go, I don’t know, devour a harvest somewhere. I don’t know, but the locust was a fine actor. John, just so you know.
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Okay.
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Did an A1 job. Ultimately, this is a horror film, believe it or not. You’re wondering, well, where’s the horror?
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I’m already horrified.
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Yes, I know. Well, rogue Jesus must battle serpents.
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Okay.
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And they come from everywhere. They come from, you know, mouths. I’ll just say it. And can rogue Jesus stop the serpents and help the poor misunderstood tranny Satan? Poor, misunderstood tranny Satan, because tranny Satan used to be close to God, but got cast aside and has been misunderstood and is very unloved and is very upset about this and now wants to destroy everything that God, of course, has created. And, you know, so we got to draw this rogue Jesus off the path. You see where I’m going with this? Okay. I’m not sure where this is all going, but I do know this. Don’t ask staring Mary because she’s not telling.
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Okay.
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She’s too busy staring. Straightforward. And maybe talking a little. And that’s about it. Okay. What do you think of the carpenter’s son?
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Is this thing still set like in biblical times, I’m guessing?
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Totally.
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Okay. It’s a little weird.
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A little bit weird. Okay, well, what works in The Carpenter’s Son? Well, first of all… Not much. Well, Isla Johnston does a really good job as Tranny Satan. I’m going to give her credit, man. She knocked it out of the park. She brought a lot of emotion to Tranny Satan. Poor Tranny Satan. I’m, of course, kidding. She’s evil but hurt and conflicted. And I’m just going to be honest, the actress does a very fine job in that role. Okay, what else works in The Carpenter’s Son?
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Nada.
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No.
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Nothing. Wow. Absolutely nothing. Oh, this is a bad movie, John. This is a bad movie. Let me tear into it. What doesn’t work in The Carpenter’s Son? Well, first, they say horror. There’s hardly any horror in this thing. Okay, this is not a horrifying movie. I mean, yeah, you got snakes coming out of places where you shouldn’t. I guess snakes are scary. They are. But come on, in this day and age of real horror movies, this is nothing. Next, why make this picture about Jesus? I mean, if you’re going to stray so far from everything we know of the historical figure, whether you’re a Christian or not, okay, this is so far off the beaten path. Why not just make a film about another chosen one? right make it about totally different people all together so you’re not trying to force these names into this narrative because it’s it’s just so bizarre and stupid uh next most of the film is so dark like physically dark you can barely see what’s happening john i hate those movies oh i hate it too i hate it too then when the sun rises and you see the story you beg for dark All right. It’s so bad. The pace is glacial. I mean, glaciers expand and contract at a faster pace than this movie. The script is slop. That’s all I’m going to say. It’s awful. I realize long sermons in churches were never boring. Heresy is actually boring. See, I used to think some of those long sermons got pretty boring. No more.
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Not after this?
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No, no, no, no, no. Now I realize heresy is boring. This is like watching a bad play on a dark stage on acid. Wow. This was just so bad. Just so bad. It was so horrible. There is no healing that rogue Jesus can do to save Nicolas Cage’s career at this point. It’s over. And I’m not kidding.
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Why does he do these weird things?
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Well, he’s done. Nicholas Cage, what he did, he is still a very gifted actor. Don’t get me wrong. He’s a very gifted actor. But down the stretch, he has been doing all these vanity projects, things where he can explore this, explore that. Nicholas, we don’t want to watch you explore. You’re supposed to entertain us, okay? Even if you want to be heretical and do a heretical thing. Look, Jesus Christ Superstar was pure heresy, but it was entertaining, okay? At least it was well done. Right. This is awful heresy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Just bad.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, my gosh. It was so bad. Let’s see here. I’m saying right now his career is over.
SPEAKER 06 :
What’s the last good really quick. What’s the last good movie he did?
SPEAKER 11 :
Um, there was one where, gosh, he was… After Gone in 60 Seconds.
SPEAKER 06 :
Was there any?
SPEAKER 11 :
No, no, no, no, no, no. There was one about four years ago, three, four years ago, where he was an aging hitman, I forget. And his daughter sought him out and needed his help. I don’t remember the name of it offhand. I’m sorry. Okay. I… The Nicolas Cage movies, I’ve been having to drive them out of my mind because he’s putting me out of my mind. Really, he’s done. I’m serious. Proclaim this career over. It is just awful. Moving on really quick here. You got White Joseph, Nicolas Cage, and Black Mary, FKA Twigs. Okay, that was weird, but whatever. I didn’t care. Cage looks as Middle Eastern as Thor. All right? I mean, my gosh. Despite the miracles, I thought all the townsfolk would just point at Cage and say, who’s the white guy? They should have. Maybe Rogue Jesus could have healed him and given him a tan. All right? I have no idea. Rogue Jesus at least looked the part. Okay? Very handsome young man, and he looks somewhat Middle Eastern, and he looked the part. A lot of other people looked the part. Nicolas Cage looked like a white guy prancing around in… Egypt. I think this was in Egypt. I think that’s where they were traveling through at the time.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
Because they were on the run. Okay. So they were traveling a lot.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
Who knows? Who cares? It was also dark. It could have been Utah. I have absolutely no idea where they were because it was so dark. This is an awful movie. Now, Rotten Tomatoes shocked me. They gave it 32%. Why they went that high, I have absolutely no idea. I think just because of pure heresy. Just hatred for Jesus, okay? No other reason. Yeah, and in case you think I’m grading it down because I’m so offended, no, folks, I didn’t care enough about this to be offended, okay? This was such a joke. I didn’t care enough to be offended.
SPEAKER 06 :
It’s just that bad.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, it’s such an embarrassment. Usually, you know, I’m used to having to debate things anti-Christian people who are rather intelligent, and you’ve got to go back and forth. Watching this, it’s just like, my gosh, you’re falling over yourself. It’s just that bad. Yeah. Quality, I wanted to give it a half star just for Isla Johnston, but the rest of it was so bad, I’m giving it zero. This is a flat zero star movie. It was awful. There was no portion of this movie, even though she did a fine performance, there was no portion of this movie that elevated it to where you’d want to watch any of it ever. It is awful. Political, three, it didn’t say anything in politics. Obviously, moral or religious, zero. You know, my goodness. Do I recommend going to The Carpenter’s Son? Are you kidding me? No. I recommend, look, if you want to watch some heresy, watch Jesus Christ Superstar. At least enjoy the music, folks, if you’re really into heresy. Personally, I’d rather you watch a better movie altogether.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. You just find something decent to watch.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. And by the way, there are some really good pictures about Jesus.
SPEAKER 06 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 11 :
Not the carpenter’s son.
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SPEAKER 18 :
Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 11 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate. And John, are you ready for a third movie?
SPEAKER 06 :
This preview looks good.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, it does, doesn’t it? Okay, well, here we go, John. An Arnie film, Arnold Schwarzenegger. An Arnie film is remade with The Running Man.
SPEAKER 04 :
Welcome to the Running Man!
SPEAKER 08 :
Survive the world’s deadliest game show?
SPEAKER 04 :
Walk away with a billion dollars!
SPEAKER 08 :
That’s actually not true. No one has ever survived. We know a way to beat it. But we have to work together. The biggest underdog win in game show history.
SPEAKER 03 :
I need weapons. I need disguise.
SPEAKER 1 :
Oh, shit!
SPEAKER 08 :
I’m gonna burn this building down.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s the spirit. That’s the spirit. John, what do you think?
SPEAKER 06 :
Again, it sounds good.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I mean, it looks fun. We’ve needed a good action film, haven’t we?
SPEAKER 06 :
Agree.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, okay. Well, here we go. We are in a dystopian future where jobs are scarce, surveillance is constant, constant, and the masses are kept entertained with TV shows of people dying. So basically, it’s bread and circuses. OK, right. OK, well, Glenn Powell, I like him. He stars as Ben Richards, a construction worker who is out of work because he stands up for fellow union members in unsafe work conditions. In other words, foot in mouth disease. He gets he has a temper and he puts his foot in his mouth, says too much, gets thrown out of jobs. OK, his wife. is working extra hours. And their two-year-old daughter is very sick. Ben desperately needs money, so he auditions for dangerous TV shows. And I guess they’ve got this big thing where, and it’s kind of funny, like when you go to the airport and you do that long winding thing before you get your baggage checked, right? Well, they have that because you’re going to go in and they have a bunch of different TV shows with varying levels of dangerousness.
SPEAKER 06 :
Gotcha.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. And so he goes into that not wanting to go into The Running Man. Well, guess what? He’s put on the running man where three contestants must run from a group of heavily armed hunters. Well, the longer you survive, the more money goes to your family. If you make it 30 days, you get a billion dollars. Pretty cool, right?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
It’s kind of funny. Billion new dollars. And guess whose face is on the dollars?
SPEAKER 06 :
I don’t know.
SPEAKER 11 :
Arnie.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, geez, really?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, well, come on.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s hilarious.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s funny. I like that. But surveillance is everywhere, and desperate citizens get rewards for spotting you and even greater rewards for taking you out. So guess what? A lot of people are after you. It’s a real John Wick kind of feel to this. So you’re running through a society where the majority is against you and is hunting you down. Well, naturally, this leads to many action sets and battles. Like I said, bit of John Wick to having everyone out to reveal you and get you. But at its core, this is a film about hard times when the powerful few use the masses for entertainment and greed. Just how much power is too much. And we’re going to learn that in The Running Man. And ultimately, Ben just wants to see his family again. But how can the running man survive? That’s the story.
SPEAKER 06 :
Sounds good.
SPEAKER 11 :
What do you think?
SPEAKER 06 :
Sounds good.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, it sounds fun. Okay, well, what works in the running man? First of all, there’s a good message about the constant surveillance state. Stop filming me. Stop filming me. And, you know, I feel that way, don’t you?
SPEAKER 12 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, I’m sick of it. I’m sick of being on. Don’t get me wrong. There’s a lot of good that comes of it, but I am sick of being on film everywhere I go. Right. It’s just privacy seems to be gone. Josh Brolin is perfect in his role because personal opinion, personal bias here. I think he’s perfect in any role. I’m a Josh Brolin groupie.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I like him.
SPEAKER 11 :
OK, I’m a Josh Brolin groupie. I admit it. I never seem to not like him in a role, even if he’s in a movie that’s kind of boring, doesn’t work. Right. Doesn’t matter. He’s good. He’s always good. I agree. Glenn Powell is the every man’s super hunk. All right. Yeah. When he’s running for a while, they got him running in a little towel. OK, so the women, they get all the eye candy they want. They’re going to love that. But he’s also a solid actor. Glenn Paul is a good, solid actor. I enjoy him. Coleman Domingo. He’s electric as the show host. He brings a lot of energy. He brings a lot of wit and charm. I thought he did a good job. Michael Cera, once again. Notice he was just in a movie a couple movies ago here. He is fun as this crazed journalist slash freedom fighter. Okay, so he’s kind of weird, a little bit crazy, a little bit kooky, but he is on the running man’s side and he wants to help him out. And he does a very good job, a surprising role inserted into this. And I felt it really added something the show needed because it was starting to just kind of drone on and it broke it up. Also, of course, there’s plenty of good action At a time, and I’m going to say this, in a year, 2025, when we don’t have a lot of good action movies. I mean, really, how many have there been, John?
SPEAKER 06 :
Not very many.
SPEAKER 11 :
It’s been a dry spell, hasn’t it? There’s been a few, but not like this. This was a lot more action. I enjoyed that. Now, what doesn’t work in The Running Man? Well, there are a few things. Glenn Powell is a real star hunk. He is. But he’s kind of an awkward fit for this film, and here’s why. In general, he’s just too nice to consistently convey the enraged persona of his character. It comes and goes, okay? Glenn Powell is known for being a nice guy. Right. It’s kind of like having Harrison Ford play an enraged guy. Morgan Freeman playing an enraged guy. OK, Glenn Powell can do it a little more naturally than those two. But you get you get my drift here. He’s not one of these actors who you can see putting him into a movie and saying, OK, you’re the enraged guy. You’re the enraged guy. You’re on the edge. You’re on the edge. And this is why we’re going to root for the guy who’s on the edge. It just doesn’t totally fit. The biggest problem is plausibility with this film. There are several times where you think, you know, if there’s that many people who want him dead, why isn’t everyone just closing in on him? Why is he finding so much open space? Why is he able to elude them so well? I felt in John Wick they did a much better job of the constant, you know, these guys all out to get him. Well, in this movie, really, it’s actually a much larger percentage of society that’s after you. and yet far fewer are getting at him. And that didn’t make sense at all. Next, there’s lots of jabs at capitalism and corporate America while praising unions. Yawn. And once again, I know people hear that and say you’re a conservative critic. That’s why you say that, folks.
SPEAKER 06 :
It just gets old, right?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. And by the way, it’s been done to death. Okay, movie after movie after movie. Corporate America. Yeah, it gets old. There are some silly moments where blanketed gunfire doesn’t hit him. Okay, if you’re in a narrow hallway and you’re running away… and they’re able to shoot machine guns at you, they’re gonna take you out, okay? I’m sorry, but that’s just really weak. And they should have done a better job of staging it so that he is just leaving the hallway as they come into the hallway and start shooting, right? So the bullets trail behind you. That’s how you stage it if you’re gonna do it more realistically. And they didn’t a few times. I want realism, folks. Keep me on the edge of my seat. There is silly moments, okay, where Ben is running through completely vacant streets. Where is everyone? I mean, what was there, a zombie apocalypse? What happened here? Where did everybody go? Okay, here’s the worst part. His disguises. His disguises barely hide his identity. These are terrible disguises. It looks like him. In this one, his hair is a little darker, and he has sort of a mustache. which stays on randomly. I mean, in another one, he plays, I believe, a priest or a minister or whatever. I think a minister. Yeah. Yeah, like an Irish minister. Oh, geez. Well, it just looks just like him, so he has to tilt forward and keep the hat in front of his… What, are you going to be able to tilt forward and keep the hat in front of your eyes, in front of everybody when you go through a crowd? His picture is on screens everywhere, up and down the street, up and down every mall, every shop he goes into. His picture is everywhere. Everybody’s looking for him, and he’s wearing a hat and, like, a collar. John, no, that’s awful. He would have been caught immediately. And this is some of the surrealism that I’m looking at. I’m thinking to myself, you know, guys, I’m loving the action of this film. I can check my brain at the door to a degree. And I did have fun watching the movie. Why? Because I took my brain, I checked it at the door, like with my coat. Here you go. Give me a number. Okay. I’m number 18. I’ll claim my brain at the end. And I did that and I was able to enjoy the action because I just like to see it. Okay. I like to see, I’m a, I’m a guy. I like seeing dumb action and the audience was 90% guys. Okay. And then some girls who were really having a good time too, for obvious reasons. Well, John. No. It was too unbelievable. Too many times you’re just like, dude, anybody can see you. Everybody should have caught you. These bullets should have hit you. A lot of things should have got you. I’m sorry, we’re not seeing it at all. Also, they have the obligatory lesbian character.
SPEAKER 06 :
Gotcha.
SPEAKER 11 :
And it and, you know, just shoved in for no reason. But whatever. I didn’t really care. And there you go. The Running Man. Now, not a bad movie. Don’t get me wrong, but it did fall short in some real ways. If I’m going to watch a movie where I’m going to be on the edge of my seat because of all this guy’s running, running, running, it’s tense, tense, tense. I got to be able to believe it, John. Right. I didn’t believe any of this. I just checked my brain at the door. Okay, Rotten Tomatoes gave this 63%. I don’t know if it’s still there. It was falling last I saw because it was in the high 70s for a while. Then it really collapsed. Quality, I’m going to give this, oh, I’m going to go three and a half stars again. Okay. And once again, it’s a weak three and a half star movie. This is just like Now You See Me, Now You Don’t. I guess I’m just desperate. In a good year, I would give this three stars max. But I’m going to give it three and a half because I think people really need to see some action.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right. So I’ll give it three and a half. Political, one. Obviously, more religious, two. Rate it down just a little bit for some various content. Do I recommend going to the Running Man? Yeah, I’m going to say I do because there’s nothing like this out, actually, for the last couple months. Do I praise it to the hills? No.
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SPEAKER 06 :
Live and local, back to Rush to Reason. All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate. We got three movies done. Question of the day. Yesterday is which country hosted the 2016 Summer Olympics? That was Brazil. Today’s question of the day, what is the Earth’s largest living structure? What is the Earth’s largest living structure?
SPEAKER 11 :
Living structure? What do you mean? Living? It’s alive?
SPEAKER 06 :
It’s alive.
SPEAKER 11 :
It’s alive. Why would a structure be alive? I’m sorry.
SPEAKER 06 :
I guess I’m— If you saw the answer, it would make total sense.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, okay. All right. Living structure. I’m sorry. I got no clue.
SPEAKER 06 :
Charlie, anyone? Anyone? No? I think I actually would have got this one. I don’t normally get these right, but I think I actually would have got this one right.
SPEAKER 11 :
You would have gotten this one right.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think so. Yeah, I think I would have been—yeah, I think I could have got this one right.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, you know, are there some cheerleaders who made one of those big pyramids?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, it is alive, but not with people.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Not with people.
SPEAKER 11 :
Then I got nothing.
SPEAKER 06 :
I’m sorry. Think nature. Think nature.
SPEAKER 11 :
Nature. So animals forming a structure.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, not even animals. Just think nature.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. Okay. So plants. Plants.
SPEAKER 06 :
You’re close. Trees. You’re getting closer. No, not trees, but plants are closer. Think… Oh, there we go. Charlie got it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh… Okay, well, I don’t want to say it on air now. I don’t want to give it away. Okay, yeah, I could say it.
SPEAKER 06 :
That one makes sense.
SPEAKER 11 :
Can I say it has a word great in it?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, it has a word great. There you go. So there’s your hint. Answer that on our Facebook page. Okay, next hour, we have got, of course, NFL picks, which we do weekly, and we’re rolling through the NFL season, and these guys are pretty much right on a weekly basis, so I encourage you to tune in if you want to know what to bet on. No, I didn’t say that. Do not take our advice for betting.
SPEAKER 11 :
Although, you know, we have been doing pretty well the last few weeks.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s what I was saying. Yeah. But no, I didn’t say that. We’re not here to help you with your bookie. No. No one has it. Well, I’m sure some have some, but most of that’s all done online now.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, we don’t know what Charlie does in his off time. Well, that’s true. Maybe he’s a bookie. I can see that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Speaking of, and I didn’t talk about this much just last week, but being in Vegas last week for the big trade show that was there and the whole scuttlebutt around even Vegas, now it’s busy when that particular show is there. The automotive shows now become the largest show in Vegas, the largest trade show, convention show, or convention, I should say, in Vegas. So it’s now surpassed CES because CES has shrunk. So ours has grown. That one has shrunk. But Vegas is struggling, Andy. A lot of young people now are not drinking. They are not gambling, and if they do, they’ve got other sources to do so. There’s other places they can go around the country. There’s online and so on.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s the big problem, really, John, because why go to Vegas when you’ve got almost many states? I mean, we’ve got it right outside of town here. Correct. And it’s beautiful up there. You can go up in the mountains and play a little bit.
SPEAKER 06 :
And the cost, frankly, Andy, I think it’s cheaper here than Vegas. Vegas isn’t helping itself out cost-wise.
SPEAKER 11 :
No.
SPEAKER 06 :
Not at all. They’re hurting themselves, actually. There’s no more $9 buffets, let’s just say that. It’s like a $90 buffet now.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, you know part of the reason? Vegas is heavily unionized. Union help, union labor.
SPEAKER 06 :
No more $9 buffets, folks. And I’m not really exaggerating at $90, but you’re probably spending $35, $40 on a buffet now. They’re no longer $9, Andy.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, well, and up the hill here in Blackhawk, a good buffet, a really good buffet is going to cost you, you know, 50 bucks.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
But, I mean, don’t get me wrong because you know what it’s like. You can go out for steak, lobster, and crab and those things and easily spend 100 a plate. And you go up there and you can get this huge variety for 50. So it’s actually a really good deal.
SPEAKER 06 :
I would say the smartest thing that Vegas has done, not necessarily Vegas, but the investor that made it happen is the Sphere because it brings in a lot of people to see different shows and so on. It is quite the attraction. Frankly, Andy, outside of that – And some of you listening, you may agree with me or disagree. I’m not a big Vegas guy. I go once a year for the trade show. That’s really about all I care to do. Outside of that, I really have no desire to go. Not a gambler, not against it, but I’m just not a gambler. I have a business. I gamble every day. So that’s kind of the way I look at it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, they are planning on getting a football team someday. Right now, they’ve only got the Raiders.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and the stadium’s beautiful. Beautiful stadium with a crappy team. But, you know, at the end of the day, there’s really, other than the Sphere, and or if you’re a Raider fan or whatever, Andy, there’s really no reason to go there anymore. It’s not what it used to be. Even the shows and stuff aren’t what they used to be outside of the Sphere.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. And they’re really struggling. And as people know, I used to manage it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know. So I know the industry very well. And I had always wondered how Vegas stayed afloat now that there are so many alternatives around.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, they’re struggling right now.
SPEAKER 11 :
Because, look, the bottom line is it’s in a desert, John. You have to travel a long way to get there. Why would you travel a long way to risk money?
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, right.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, risking money is something you might do when you blow off a little steam, you know, on the weekend up the hill here if you’re into that. Otherwise, why would you do that? I don’t know.
SPEAKER 06 :
Again, as you said, they are on the struggle bus big time. I think their revenue is down somewhere. Don’t quote me on this. I’d have to look this up for sure. But it’s at least 20% off right now, which is, as you know, Andy, in that world is a big number.
SPEAKER 11 :
Do you think they’re going to diversify? I mean, look at Phoenix, what they’ve built in the Valley of the Sun. Vegas is obviously no worse. with its surroundings, do you think that they might be able to diversify and become a more interesting, better place in other areas? I mean, for instance, there are great mining interests there in Nevada, if they would take advantage of those. That would create a lot of jobs.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, the bottom line is you have to create commerce.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and frankly, and I just got a text message that, you know, even if you want a great buffet, go take a cruise, go do other things. That’s what Vegas is struggling with. There’s other things people can now do besides just go to Vegas. And they frankly, I think this is my own personal opinion, Andy, we talk about this a lot during the week, even inside of politics and so on. They have lost their core and who their customers really are.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, totally.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s what’s happened to them.
SPEAKER 11 :
Quick question here before we head out. If you go to a buffet, you and the wife, what do you both like the most down there? My wife likes crab legs.
SPEAKER 06 :
We’re not buffet guys, so I don’t eat enough anymore to do one, so I haven’t been in a buffet in years.
SPEAKER 11 :
My wife’s a crab-legger.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I mean, if I was going to do one, it would have to be that, but I don’t eat enough anymore to do any. I can’t see the value for me personally in a buffet. I don’t eat that much anymore to actually gain the value out of doing a buffet. Okay. Any of the all-you-can-eat things for me anymore, just they don’t do anything for me because I just don’t get enough value out of it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Fair enough.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, we’re going to do this. We’ve got another full hour coming your way. NFL picks followed up by movies with magic. We’ll be right back. This is Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 1 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 12 :
Average guys. Average guys.
