Hour 1 of https://rushtoreason.com launches with high-stakes energy as John Rush and Andy Peth dive straight into one of the biggest media battles in years: Netflix vs. Paramount in a multi-billion-dollar fight for Warner Bros. Discovery. Their guest, Jordan Goodman—America’s Money Answer Man —breaks down the bidding war that could reshape Hollywood. Will this merger reduce creative freedom? Will HBO and Netflix under one roof change everything you watch? But the hour doesn’t stop there. The conversation shifts to global tension as Trump positions massive U.S. military power near Venezuela. Is this the beginning of a regime collapse—or a
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We’re back. Our number two Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Larry Barron joining us now, Power of the Future. Larry, welcome back. How are you? I’m doing great. How are you guys? We’re great. Always a joy to hear from you. And I know we’re going to talk about, you know, just the price of… Thanksgiving dinner, things along those lines. Reality is things are down because in a lot of cases, you know, Larry, and generally speaking, energy prices are down, especially oil, gas, those things. And we were talking in the last hour about Venezuela and some of what’s happening there. And if all of that turns out like Andy and I think, it’ll even come down further.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and I mean, you just gave my whole answer and explained it better than I could. Energy is foundational, and so it takes energy to grow our food, to process the things we use, to deliver the things we use, maintain and get it to the store, and for us to go to the store and get it. And so when the cost of energy goes down, it has an impact on everything. And as we saw roughly four years ago, when the cost of energy goes through the roof, the price of everything goes through the roof.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s right. And I think, too, Larry, and this is something you can explain probably better than I, there’s always this lag time. In other words, people see the price of the pump come down, and they think, okay, immediately the price of food should come down. Well… Not necessarily because a lot of times – and this is something that I know a little bit about, enough to probably get in trouble. The commodity market is very weird is probably the best way to say it. Those guys bake in all sorts of things into the price of X, Y, Z, and that has a huge – factor in the price of food. And the reality is just because energy, you know, fuel, diesel and so on comes down, you know, in a particular month, for example, doesn’t necessarily mean that, you know, carrots at the grocery store are going to be down. Some of that has a lag effect, I guess, is what I’m trying to say, Larry.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, it absolutely does. And I understand, you know, I understand probably even less about commodity markets. I think it was President John F. Kennedy, who said it best about the farmers. Farmers are the only ones in sell it back wholesale and pay the transport both ways. And so without them, we don’t eat. But I think they like to have those prices cooked in. They like to hedge a bit and know for a year or two down the road what their fixed costs are going to be and because of that you know if they did it on estimates from a year or two ago then the prices were a little higher so it does take a little time to come back and when we see it but thankfully the signs are pointing in the right direction we see the price of oil the barrel of oil right going down where it should be again not a direct correlation but that is absolutely one of the measures And secondly, folks need to, I’m sure they know too, but when you look at the seasons that you’re in, when we’re talking about just the price of gasoline, fall, winter, folks aren’t driving as much. They’re not utilizing their car as much, so the price does go down a little bit just easily. And obviously summer, it goes up a bit because people are driving more and they put in different blends in the summer as well in certain eco-leftist states. And so there are factors that have an impact. But yes, there is a lag, but I’m hoping that folks are seeing… Some relief in some places. I know things like ground beef, there’s no relief right now. But they should start seeing it, not just at the gas pump, but in other areas as well.
SPEAKER 06 :
Larry, I’m sorry. First of all, I have to correct you. They’re not eco-leftist states. They’re idiot states. But that’s okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
That is the accurate description. You’re right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I’m just trying to stay as honest and accurate as possible. I was just wondering, how do you think OPEC is going to respond to such low oil prices? I mean, do you think they’re going to cut back on their production? What do you think they’ll do?
SPEAKER 08 :
I think that it’s really interesting because you have two groups in OPEC. We have the traditional OPEC of who we think of, and really Saudi Arabia is the leader of that, right? But you also have OPEC Plus that, believe it or not, includes Russia. And so I would say that because of President Trump’s efforts at diplomacy with Saudi Arabia, in areas, particularly in geopolitical and military cooperation areas, that Saudi Arabia is going to be working with us as a partner in this situation and not try to mess with us too, too much. That said, the United States is producing more oil now than we ever have in history. We’re up to about 13.8, over 13.8 million barrels of oil. And so even if OPEC decides to start, you know, with some hijinks, then we are much more insulated now than we have been in the past. And so that’s, you know, one of the things that President Trump does really well. He works with people, you know, with foreign leaders, but also, you know, on the other side of it, because of our energy dominance, he makes OPEC irrelevant again.
SPEAKER 14 :
A question, going back to the blends, and sorry to kind of jump around here, but as I was thinking about, you know, you’re talking about the different blends and this, that, and the other, and we saw what happened with the cafe ratings that, you know, Trump and the administration just did in lowering those, which, by the way, is going to lower the price of vehicles and so on. Given they just did that, and this is something that I feel they’re behind in, we don’t need – I think the last time I checked, there were either 24 or 26 different blends of fuel across the country. That can change differently, as you said, during winter months and so on. At the end of the day, Larry, honestly, we could do regional blends, have four, maybe six max. Reality is we don’t need 24 blends, which is also raising the price of fuel, gasoline itself. In other words, yes, the price of oil is down. but in a lot of cases it could even be cheaper at the pump if we didn’t have all these stupid blends. Do you hear any rumblings that this administration will take a peek at what I just said?
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, that’s a really good question. I’ll just answer it up front. No, I haven’t, but they absolutely should. And, I mean, you have it. We’ve seen it with EBs. California decided, hey, we’re such a big consumer that we’re going to set our own standards. They’re different from the federal government. And then they got about 17 states, I believe, including Colorado, to follow along when it comes to EVs. I think they’ve done the same thing with blends. And so what that does is it says, hey, we’re going to have a different blend in the summer because we’re trying to lower this, and so we’re going to put additives in the gasoline, which make it more expensive, but it also makes it so that the limited refinery capacity that we have gets even more limited. Now we can only buy from certain refineries who are going to make our special blend or that we’re going to have to pay extra for it. And that’s why you see right now, nationally, the price of gas is below $3 a gallon, but in blue states, I’m not paying $3 a gallon when I travel in blue states.
SPEAKER 14 :
Um… Well said, by the way, and I wish somebody could put a little bug into this administration’s ear on the actual blends because, again, you could save consumers at the pump a lot of money by doing that, which, by the way, going back into this whole economy of things we’re talking about, Larry, that you really started off with, talking about Thanksgiving meals, the cost, and so on, the reality is you could help people even further than we currently are right now by doing some other simple things. And one last thing – sorry, I hate to go here – As somebody that buys these types of vehicles every now and again, why are we still administering a gas guzzler tax on certain vehicles when we shouldn’t be? I mean, that’s another one of those scam things that this administration needs to get rid of.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, I’m going to tell you the answer, and I think it’s going to be really shocking and upsetting to people. And here’s the answer. Government bureaucrats love money. I know it’s a shock.
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I have never, and I don’t think you guys probably have either, ever seen a potential revenue source that some bureaucrat hasn’t loved. And so when they say, hey, not only can I push my agenda and punish those people who have the audacity to not follow my agenda, but I can give myself a raise because my office budget will go higher when we collect this money. I mean, it’s no different really than the plastic bag tax, right? I mean, we’ve seen it in city after city after city where it really makes no difference. But the cities get to collect the money, and now that they realize it makes no difference, they’re like, yeah, but we’d like the money. And so they’re going to continue to do it. And so these are things that blue states have done to make life more expensive. You know, for all of their care about it, we care about those who receive SNAP, and we care about families who are struggling. They’re sure happy to nickel and dime everyone wherever they can when it comes to the greed agenda.
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Hey, just head on over to PowerTheFuture.com, and they can hit us up there. It would be great to hear from the folks in the Denver area.
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Awesome. Larry, appreciate you as always. Have a great Christmas, sir.
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You guys as well. Have a good one. Merry Christmas.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, yesterday, I hate to rehash something, but I said I would ask Andy today because he was texting as I was going through some of my predictions for our GOP governor’s race here in Colorado. So just the governor’s race in general, yes, we’ll have eventually a single GOP candidate when it’s all said and done. But as I said yesterday, Andy, and I was going to ask you, was my prediction of what I said yesterday correct? Correct. And for those of you that maybe didn’t hear yesterday’s program, my prediction was because we even right now can’t get behind a candidate or even just two or three candidates. We’ve got this plethora of GOP candidates, which, by the way, is just just stupid in and of itself. And then we’ve got all of this infighting over my guy’s the best and your guy stinks and your guy can’t do that. I mean, it’s just back and forth, back and forth. It’s like people. If there’s any chance at all of us doing anything close to having some sort of a competitive race against who I predict to be Michael Bennett, that’s the guy that I think will be on the Democrat side, we have got to get our act together, Andy. And I predicted yesterday that we won’t. I agree. I agree.
SPEAKER 06 :
Don’t get me wrong, there’s always a chance.
SPEAKER 14 :
And I hope I’m wrong by that. I said that yesterday. I hope I’m wrong, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, but here’s the problem, John. We don’t just have division in our party here in Colorado. We have a division wherein… A portion of those on one side literally have no loyalty to the party whatsoever. And so if they don’t get their candidate, not just statewide, but in this and that district. OK, if they don’t get their candidate, they won’t vote. They won’t vote. You’re right. And well, Andy, I mean, I’m talking about the rhino. We take it one step further.
SPEAKER 14 :
It’s not even a matter of they won’t vote. They’ll run some sort of attack ads campaigns and even run an independent to go against that guy just to prove a point. Am I right? Oh, absolutely.
SPEAKER 06 :
Look, they’re already doing it in several races around. Look, you’ve got Hope Shepelman. running in cd3 she has no chance why is she running talked about that yesterday why is she running there she’s running there simply to hurt our candidate I mean, seriously. Oh, Andy, you don’t – look. Yeah, I’ll just take a wild shot in the dark.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s what – because she knows she’s not going to win the – And I said it yesterday really quick just to step in. I’ll let you finish. Yeah, go ahead. I said it yesterday. She’s another grifter. I’m sorry. She is a political grifter that came to Colorado to be involved in the things she’s involved in because this was an easy state to have access to. I’m sorry. That is the explanation in and of itself, Andy, right there.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. And let’s see, in CD8, Gabe Evans won CD8 by 0.8%. Okay, that is an incredibly hard district for the Republican to win. It is a district that I think probably leans ever so slightly. I don’t know about the actual R versus D blend, but I’m just saying in terms of how people vote there, I think it leans slightly Democrat. OK, but we simply had a much better candidate than they had and gave Evans one. OK, so we’ve got a guy. I don’t want to say his name, but I have debated this guy many times online. And that’s why I don’t want to say his name.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s fine. Go ahead. You’re fine.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, the guy is repulsive, okay? And he’s a big-time rhino watcher, so forth. Okay. His supporters today, and I just said flat out, I said, look, it’s a bad idea for him to run against Gabe Evans. If he were to get the nomination, we would lose CD8 by a landslide.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
And we would. It’s a guarantee. If Gabe Evans, and Gabe Evans could lose. He could very well lose because we’re probably looking at more of a blue wave year. He barely won by less than a point in a red wave year in CD8. If we don’t have Gabe Evans running there, we’re doomed. And I’m getting to your whole thing with the governor.
SPEAKER 14 :
Take your time. You’re good. You keep talking. You’re fine.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Well, look. These people, the rhino watch Davidians, whatever you want to call them. That’s what I called it yesterday. Okay. They want us to lose. It is that simple, John. They want to damage Republicans and the Republican Party in Colorado as much as they possibly can. I had some of their followers, one of their followers this morning, you know, calling me a rhino because I said Evans is clearly the candidate we have to go with. And by the way, Donald Trump has endorsed him. I mean, come on. This…
SPEAKER 14 :
It’s like, look— He’s the incumbent. He has the best chance of winning moving forward, Andy, period.
SPEAKER 06 :
Obviously, yes.
SPEAKER 14 :
Nobody else on our side is going to do as well as what he’s doing. And those of you out there that think otherwise, you’re a moron.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. And then the guy was trying to connect me to Ken Buck, and I said, well— Huh? I said— Yeah. And I said, OK, now you’re talking CD4. OK, let’s discuss that. I said, first of all, I’m not a fan of Ken Buck. He’s well to my left. But OK, let’s just talk as a candidate in CD4. In 2020, Ken Buck won by, I believe, around 24 point whatever percent in CD4. I’m sorry, 2022. In 2024, Lauren Boebert was in there, Ken Buck retired. She won by half that. Okay, now here’s the big thing. 2022 was a blue wave year. Not a big one, but it was a blue wave year. 2024 was a massive red wave year. Lauren Boebert was such a step down in candidate that she won by half. She cut our winning margin in half during a red wave year. Think about that for a moment. That’s right. No, you’re right. And the reason I bring this up, John, Lauren Boebert, of course, is hugely supported by the Davidians and the Rhino Watchers. She is their girl. They loved her. They want her in that position. And I’m looking at them. I’m saying, guys, your candidates don’t sell. You put in a candidate. You all said, oh, we got to have Lauren Boebert. And by the way, I got nothing against Lauren. She votes the way I would vote. I like that. Hey, what she does. You know, she had a crazy night one night in the theater. But outside of that, she votes great. But the bottom line is she’s not a strong candidate. Okay? Ken Buck was an extremely strong candidate. And here’s what I’m saying, John. Republicans in Colorado have to start realizing how your fellow Coloradoans vote. They want a Ken Buck. They don’t want a Lauren Boebert. Can I make that any clearer? No. I mean, CD4 is deep red. Deep red, and she won it by only 12 points. Think about it.
SPEAKER 14 :
And they’re going to put somebody in against Gabe Evans, and I talked about this yesterday. I mean, I said it yesterday, and I’m sorry, I hate to name-call, and it really isn’t name-calling, but there was a meme I saw on social media yesterday of Hope Scheppelman and the person that’s actually running against Gabe Evans, and it was basically dumb and dumber. And frankly, I can’t argue that.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, I can’t either.
SPEAKER 14 :
I really can’t argue that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, Eli actually said that to me. It literally is dumb and dumber.
SPEAKER 14 :
We talked. He was still laughing. He couldn’t stop. I mean, this is the party now that we’re a part of, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
But we’re talking about candidates with absolutely no chance. If they were to become our nominees, zero chance.
SPEAKER 14 :
Not a snowball’s chance.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. And you’ve got to keep in mind, these are both candidates who are more combustible than Lauren Boebert. Andy, I… And Lauren Boebert cut our, in a red wave year, cut our winning margin in half.
SPEAKER 14 :
Not that I would do this, but even being a talk show host and all of the history that I have, I would have a better chance of going to either, you know, moving to and being in either one of those districts and winning than these two clowns would have.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, and you would lose.
SPEAKER 14 :
And I would still lose.
SPEAKER 06 :
You would lose both of them because people would dredge up whatever comments over the years. That’s right. And yet you would do far better than Hope Scheppelman.
SPEAKER 14 :
Percentage-wise, I would, and I would still lose. Telling you how bad these two candidates are.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah. They’re ridiculous. It’s laughable. Just like Dave Williams was in CD5. Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
It’s laughable.
SPEAKER 06 :
And I don’t say that because of all my animosity toward Dave. Right now, I’m just talking about marketing. The numbers.
SPEAKER 14 :
The data.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Dave, CD5, by the way, is a red district. Not nearly as red as CD4, but it’s a fairly red district. Okay? And our candidate there won pretty handily. Dave probably would have lost. Okay? I mean, he would have been that bad of a candidate. Here’s the bottom line, John. The reason I think we’re in trouble with the governor’s race is because a number of these candidates are backed heavily by the Rhinowatch Davidians. And when they don’t get their candidate in… When they lose, which they will. They… You see… Most of these Republicans you would say, oh, man, they’re rhinos or this or that. Let me tell you something. Those ones you call rhinos, unless you’re talking the extremists like Liz Cheney. OK, toss them out.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Outside of them, the rest of them are loyal Republicans who will vote for any are on the ticket. just like you and I will, okay? These people who support Hope Shepelman, who support, I’ll just say the guy’s name, Adam Dorito.
SPEAKER 14 :
It’s not like the bag of Doritos. It’s Dorito.
SPEAKER 06 :
D-E-R-I-T. Dorito. Yeah. And, you know, he and I have gone around many times. But, you know, the simple fact is this. They’re not going to win. No. They don’t appeal. And their followers, the people who support them, when they don’t get the nomination, a portion of them, a good portion, have no loyalty whatsoever to the Republican Party.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 06 :
And that includes Trump. They’re not loyal to Trump. These are also the first people to turn on Trump the second he doesn’t, I don’t know, hate Israel enough. Right. Okay. This is the way they are. They’ll say, I have had several of these people online tell me, and this is a quote. Trump has left MAGA.
SPEAKER 14 :
They’re serious. Oh, I know. I’ve talked to him, Andy. Anyways, my prediction yesterday was unless we make some big changes, which I said yesterday, I’m sorry. I don’t see those changes coming for the lot of the reasons that Andy just explained over the last 15 minutes or so. I don’t see those changes happening, meaning that because those changes won’t happen. I’m sorry to say, folks, and I don’t care who your candidate is, and I’m not trying to throw water on any flames that are out there for any particular candidate or anything along those lines, but unless something major changes along the lines of what Andy and I just talked about, we don’t have a snowball’s chance of winning. Right. Because there’s that portion of the party that will sabotage anybody else that has any sliver of hope of winning.
SPEAKER 06 :
Exactly. You see, because it’s a twofold problem, John. It’s twofold. Number one, we’re outnumbered to begin with. We are in a blue state. That’s right. There are far more Democrats than Republicans, and the unaffiliated lean left. That’s right. Okay. Although they are largely reachable. Number two, we have a… at least sizable enough portion of the Republican Party in Colorado that has no loyalty to the Republican Party. That’s right. If their candidate gets in, we’re a guaranteed loser. If their candidate doesn’t get in, they’ll stay home. We’re still a guaranteed loser.
SPEAKER 14 :
We’re still a guaranteed loser because they had to fight against us.
SPEAKER 06 :
They literally, and I’ve seen them every election season, every time one of their candidates… you know, doesn’t win the primary and then the other one goes forward and doesn’t win, they go on there and say, we told you, we told you, and it’s a self-fulfilling prophecy. Yeah, part of it’s because you all stayed home.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s right. That’s right. All right. So again, I was hoping that I would be wrong and Andy might come on today and correct me and say, well, John, did you think about this? Did you think about that?
SPEAKER 06 :
No, you were right.
SPEAKER 14 :
No, the reality is I’m sorry to say that, again, unless it could happen. Miracles happen, okay? I’m a believer in that. Miracles do happen. Unless some major change happens with those particular individuals in the Republican Party in Colorado, the Rhino Watch, Davidian section of the party, unless something dramatic happens with them, we’re doomed. They still have that much effect on the party, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Basically what you’re saying, John, is they are a cancer and the cancer is killing the body.
SPEAKER 14 :
And until, and I’ve said this over and over again, until we eliminate them from the party in Colorado, we don’t have a snowball’s chance of winning much in Colorado, period.
SPEAKER 06 :
It’s going to be rough.
SPEAKER 14 :
And I mean that all the way down to dog catcher, folks. I’m serious about that. We will struggle to win any kind of major elections moving forward unless we fix what I just said.
SPEAKER 06 :
John, last month we were losing in Douglas County.
SPEAKER 14 :
I know.
SPEAKER 06 :
We’re losing everywhere.
SPEAKER 14 :
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SPEAKER 14 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Thanks for listening, by the way. I appreciate it. And, yeah, I was hoping that Andy would come on and say, well, you know, what about this, what about that? And the reality is, yeah, no, as long as we have these particular individuals that are trying to sabotage everything. that we do you know somebody just texted the lefty just texted and said has it ever occurred to you guys maybe you’re too far to the right andy and i are not we’re not too far to the right i mean we wouldn’t run for office by the way and the things that we discuss constantly is we need candidates that frankly aren’t as far right as andy and i are because if they’re as far right as andy and i are is they are completely unelectable marty go ahead
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, gentlemen, a couple of things. Yeah, you’re right. It sounds discouraging to say, don’t bother. Don’t go vote if you’re GOP in Colorado. You don’t. You’ll never win the state, even if you believe.
SPEAKER 14 :
If we don’t get rid of the Rhino Watch hardcore crowd that’s out there, Marty on the right. Frankly, you might as well not vote because we’re not going to win anyways.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, exactly. So maybe pour into some other elections that you really feel like you can win.
SPEAKER 14 :
Which is which is where you mean outside of Colorado, you mean?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, meaning, of course, at the federal level, if there’s a candidate that you like, you’re probably smaller than that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Your local school board… Honestly, Marty, I’m sorry to say, this particular group of individuals has almost literally infiltrated… Every area of Colorado, Andy just talked about Douglas County. The reality is these knuckleheads have literally worked their way into almost every faction of every particular race that runs across the state. And the reality is, Marty, until they’re gone, we’re doomed.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, Marty, really quick here. Because they’re such a highly mobilized group, even though I think they represent probably less than 10% of the actual Republican Party in Colorado.
SPEAKER 14 :
They’re the most vocal part.
SPEAKER 06 :
They overrun caucus and assembly, and they hold the power of at least half the state central committee. And because of that, the division that they can cause, the havoc they can wreak is just too much.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, let’s consider that. I wonder if the bigger, more lurking issue in the room, though, is the impact of… I mean, at this point, I guess it’s a betrayal, and it’s out there in the open. But with Donald Trump now embarking on a regime change in Venezuela, and then this extended kind of reach… We were America first, you know, in kind of getting out of all this stuff. I’m wondering if the confusion… for the MAGA rhino person come 26, is it going to be too overwhelming from what Trump’s done at the federal level or these kind of sneaky secret agents at the state level?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, Marty, first of all, there’s nothing rhino about MAGA. And secondly, the general voting public doesn’t care about Venezuela. So none of what you said is having an impact on the general elections.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hold on a second. Now, hold on a second. You say MAGA is independent of a rhino, which I would completely reject. Yeah, I know you would. There’s not going to be a war in Venezuela, Marty.
SPEAKER 14 :
I explained that even to Jordan Goodman in hour one. This is simply Trump saber rattling, getting rid of that particular regime that’s there right now. We need the resources that are there. Trump knows that as a country. If we want to have… stable oil prices moving forward and not rely, which we don’t rely much on OPEC anymore, but if you want to get rid of OPEC completely, you use Venezuela, which is exactly what Trump is doing right now. It’s a very strategic move on his part, and there’s not going to be a ground war there.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, I don’t think there is either, and even if there is, you’ve got to keep in mind, Marty, You libertarian-style Republicans, you thinkers, you like to say that you are the only true MAGA, and basically the rest of MAGA is fake and a fraud. I’m telling you what, MAGA is, by its very nature, a very broad coalition of people who include, from Lindsey Graham to Rand Paul across the spectrum, okay, from Marco Rubio to, I mean, Kristi Noem to whatever, Tulsi Gabbard. Okay, they are across the… MAGA, yes, MAGA has a very strong anti-interventionist contingent, and I agree. And by the way, to a large extent, I share those feelings. But they are not dominant. MAGA isn’t all anti-war rhetoric, okay? MAGA is very broad. MAGA is basically make America great again. Whatever is in our interest, we advance it. And if Trump feels that incursion in Venezuela is beneficial for America, then he’ll consider it. Now, I oppose that. I don’t want it, but he might.
SPEAKER 05 :
So how does the average blue-collar guy that’s really struggling to stay alive… This is a strategic move on his behalf, meaning that guy gets better as a result of a regime change. Yes, yes. And how does that translate? How does he get there?
SPEAKER 14 :
Because, as I explained a moment ago, Marty, if we end up doing what I think we’re going to do in Venezuela, and we end up with access to the huge oil reserves and other natural resources, by the way, that the country has, it’s huge. No, it’s not, Marty. It’s simply a strategic move, meaning we can buy oil out of a place that we haven’t been able to because they let their infrastructure dwindle away to absolutely nothing to where they can only produce about 2 million barrels a day. And I’m not off in what I’m saying. And that country should be producing 10 million barrels a day. And the reality is they can’t because their infrastructure is so weak. No, Marty, it’s actually more of an investment in a country to lift people up out of an oppression that they’re in right now.
SPEAKER 06 :
And keep in mind, Marty, two things. Number one, their current leader stole his election. Correct.
SPEAKER 14 :
He’s not even an elected guy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, he doesn’t even represent the majority of the people there. And number two, while I don’t support regime change, I would let it crumble from within and keep blowing up boats and doing what we’re doing. I would starve them all. Which may very well be what happened. Yeah, I wouldn’t go in. But I’m saying, would regime change help the average American on the street? Oh, absolutely, because we would have an ally then running their country. Because the lady who would take over is an ally of Trump. So yeah, absolutely it would affect us.
SPEAKER 05 :
So then I guess it would only be an economic benefit to the average blue-collar guy, or let’s say our poor American ghetto black person, they would increase, their lives would get better because what, like oil would be a little bit lower?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, well, like I talked to Larry Behrens at the top of the hour, Marty, anytime you can get energy stabilized, especially when it comes to oil, does that affect all the people you just mentioned? It affects every single American in a positive way.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and the stability in Venezuela would affect, look, Keep in mind, Marty, Venezuela is one small country on the planet.
SPEAKER 14 :
We’re not saying, you know… No, no, hang on, time out. They are a small country with the largest oil reserves in the world, Marty. Huge.
SPEAKER 05 :
They have huge reserves. By the way, not just oil. What’s that? we’re the granddad of oil production in the world.
SPEAKER 14 :
We are, Marty, but time out really quick. And as a car person, I explain this a lot. We still have to import a certain amount of oil because of the refineries that we actually have. We produce sweet crude oil in this country. We don’t have the refining capacity to even refine all of the oil that we produce. So we export and import because of the way our refineries work. And it would take years to change that around.
SPEAKER 05 :
Got it. And so this is a longer-term play, so there’ll still be a lot of inflation in the culture. There’ll still be some tough times ahead.
SPEAKER 14 :
Where?
SPEAKER 05 :
In what culture?
SPEAKER 14 :
Actually, you could eliminate the runaway inflation that’s been going on in Venezuela. Doing what Trump wants to do would eliminate that overnight, Marty.
SPEAKER 05 :
Remember, I’m not interested in anything that goes on outside the borders of the United States. I know you aren’t, but I am.
SPEAKER 14 :
I know you’re one of those guys that thinks only inside of our borders should matter. I’m not that guy, Marty. I don’t look at it that way. You’re different than I am.
SPEAKER 05 :
So you’re willing to jump over the necks of millions of struggling Americans to help some Venezuelans?
SPEAKER 14 :
No, I’m actually willing to help millions of Americans by helping Venezuela so we can tap back into, which at one time we did, by the way, we can tap back into the oil reserves that we once had, Marty.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, Marty, the idea that an incursion, which I don’t think is going to happen, but it might. It’s possible. And I don’t want an incursion in Venezuela. I don’t support that. But the idea that that would somehow harm the lives of millions of Americans is ludicrous. There’s no way that it would.
SPEAKER 14 :
And as an example, Marty, of what I what I was explaining a moment ago for everybody listening, you might as well know this because I just looked it up to make sure that I was correct. Venezuelan oil is primarily heavy, sour oil, which, by the way, is the same type of oil that we get out of the Middle East and Canada, by the way. And we need a certain amount of that oil to come back into the country because of the way our refineries work. And they’ve been that way since the 70s because we didn’t produce enough oil back then. So we built refineries around producing gasoline, diesel, jet fuel, et cetera, out of that sour oil. The reality, though, Marty, is as a country, we produce sweet oil, not sour oil.
SPEAKER 05 :
Do you think it would be fair, John?
SPEAKER 14 :
And my point, Marty, is there’s a lot more going on here than meets the eye. And these are the things that have to be explained to the average Joe American to understand why are we doing this?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I just wonder if it’s confusing, though, for the average Joe American, if we can just be clean.
SPEAKER 14 :
The way I just explained it a moment ago, doesn’t that pretty much sum it up?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, but the administration is saying that we’re doing this because they’re supplying fentanyl. That’s part of it as well.
SPEAKER 14 :
Believe me, that is the short-term play, Marty. I do believe that wholeheartedly. That is the short-term play. But believe me, the long-term play, and keep this in mind, the average Joe American has no idea how long-term plays work because their brains don’t work that way. So really, to message somebody on the long-term play that we’re doing this so we can eliminate some of our need on OPEC, or frankly, all of our need on OPEC, to the average Joe doesn’t matter.
SPEAKER 05 :
Guys, last thought here. If you think he can survive the betrayal on inflation, the betrayal.
SPEAKER 14 :
There’s been no betrayal on inflation. I just talked in the first hour how inflation has been below 3%. It’s about two and three quarter right now. And frankly, if some of the things I just mentioned happen, it’s even going to come down more than that. And by the way, the Fed, as I said earlier, has as much to do with inflation being where it’s at today versus Donald Trump, who he’s fighting the Fed constantly. The Fed is keeping rates up. knowing that that is artificially making, not artificially, it’s actually incentivizing inflation through the very policies that they have, which is anti-Trump, by the way, Marty. So what you’re saying, Trump having some sort of an inflation betrayal, frankly, you need to apologize for what you just said, because that’s about as far from the truth as you could get.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, that’s just ludicrous. It’s not true. I mean, come on. That’s laughable.
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s laughable. Hold on a second. What do you guys think happens to the price of homes if they lower rates tomorrow? Go ahead. What do you think happens to the price of homes?
SPEAKER 14 :
You’ll actually get some of the homes that are actually on the market right now selling again. You’ll get people refinancing their homes. They’ll inject that money back into either fix-up or they do other things or they buy other things or they take vacations and so on. It actually funnels money back into the marketplace. You’ll see some inflation in housing, which you’re going to see anyways, Marty. And by the way, that inflation in housing is one of the best ways that people have built wealth over the years known to mankind. So what’s wrong with that?
SPEAKER 05 :
We’ve locked out our 20-somethings. No, Marty. Time out.
SPEAKER 14 :
Don’t go down that path, Marty. Marty, Marty, Marty, Marty, Marty. Don’t go down that path because I’ve explained numerous times, not only here but on the podcast, that the reason why most young people can’t afford homes is because their expectations are far too high. If they bought the same kind of home I bought the first time around, they’d own a home today. So don’t go down that path with me, Marty. You’re wrong.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Yeah, Marty, you would be the first one to look at young voters today and say that they are voting from an entitlement mentality.
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 06 :
You would be the first one to say that. I know you.
SPEAKER 14 :
And they feel like they’re entitled to buy a certain home, Marty, which is why they don’t.
SPEAKER 06 :
They’re taking that same mentality into home buying. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 05 :
Gentlemen, if the average price of a national price of the average home in America, this is coast to coast, is $450,000 a year. per home. You’re telling me that’s their fault for having too high of expectations?
SPEAKER 14 :
John, we can’t find… Yes, Marty, because… And by the way, it’s two things. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. It’s two things. It’s not having the right expectations and it’s not willing to work hard enough to actually pay for that home. If they wanted to follow me around when I was that age buying my first home, first of all, I put in twice the hours that they’re putting in to make sure I could buy my first home. In other words, Marty, nothing has changed. It’s a matter of ambition and expectations. That’s what’s changed.
SPEAKER 06 :
And Marty, you’re also not taking into account. Oh, he had to go.
SPEAKER 14 :
No, I’m dropping him off. He’s done. Well, really quick here. I’m not going to argue with somebody that’s a knucklehead and can’t listen to me.
SPEAKER 06 :
But he’s not adding in that phasing in. And Marty, if you’re still listening, you’re not phasing into that number the fact that those prices are grossly inflated in places like California and New York. You’ve got some states that are driving up that base.
SPEAKER 14 :
There are still places in this country, Marty, where you can move to and buy a house for $150,000 to $200,000 and be just fine. It’s a matter, again, like I said, you’ve got to set the expectations and also be willing to sacrifice not only time but effort and so on. And the reality, Marty, is – and I’m sorry, but – I know you believe this. You’re just on some rhetoric of I don’t know what. But the reality is I know you believe that hard work has positive results at the end of the day. And we’ve got a lot of young people out there that, frankly, don’t know how to work more than 35 hours a week. And that’s why they can’t buy their first home. I’m sorry, guys. That’s the reality of it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, they’re expecting to be able to, let’s face it, a lot of young people are looking forward to basically staying home if they have a child, basically staying home if they have any kind of limitation. It’s ridiculous. They are entitled in every way, shape and form right now. And that’s the problem. They don’t look at life in general, John, the way we did before.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s exactly right. All right. Moving along, so we’ll take just one last break here because we’ve got sort of a Friday format because we’re only going until 5 o’clock tonight because our Crawford Christmas party is this evening. And I’ve had lots of questions, by the way, on our Christmas party. No, folks, it’s not a wild event. It will be probably the most, if you were to attend.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, except for Charlie.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, except for Charlie. It is the mildest Christmas party that you would ever attend in your entire life. Trust me when I say that. Okay, moving along, though. And this is another hot button for me.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
Because people are stupid. I’m sorry, but they just are. I have seen so many people of late criticizing Erica Kirk for doing fundraisers and things like that and keeping the organization moving forward. And, you know, why is she not grieving more? Folks, let me just tell you something. Everybody grieves differently. Everybody grieves differently. My mom passed away on a Thursday and I did a show on Saturday. Was I wrong in doing that? No, that’s who I am and it’s what I do and it’s how personally even I grieve. I’m somebody that to grieve means I gotta get busy so that I don’t sit around and feel sorry for myself and other things that are going on and that’s just the way that I handle things. Everybody is different. For anybody to be out there, and I know some of you are listening to me that posted some of these things about Erica. For anybody to criticize somebody else in the way that they grieve, shame on you.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, the thing that I don’t like about the whole grieving argument, I don’t like it when people project the way they grieve as the right way on everybody else. Correct. You know, you can go to the other extreme and say, oh, my gosh, this person pulls themselves out of circulation for like two months. Right. It’s ridiculous. Get back out there. You got to live your life. Get to work. Get to this. You know, or maybe they’re even using it as an excuse. We’re at 10, 12, 14 weeks by now. You know. It’s like, look, folks, it’s different for every person.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s exactly right.
SPEAKER 06 :
I’m pretty quick to work through grieving process too. I am. Okay. You were right back in. Why? That’s how you function. That’s who you are. That’s how you grieve. And to judge how other people grieve is the same. You know what, John? It’s the same as judging how other people experience all emotions in their lives, how they experience marriage, how they experience work, how they experience everything. Maybe people need to take a step back and let Erica be Erica. What do you think?
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely. I’m getting lots of text messages in talking about the housing market. And some think that we’re wrong on our projections on DeMarty. Some people think that we’re right. And somebody said, what’s wrong with staying home with your kids? By the way, nothing. I’m never against anybody staying home with their kids. Lower your expectations, though. If you’re going to be a stay-at-home mom and have that type of a family and that’s what you want to do, you know what? I am all for that. More power to you. But again, at the end of the day, don’t complain to me then about what you can’t. can’t have as as a couple for example you’ll have less money in other words if you’re going to still try to keep up with the joneses quote unquote and be a stay-at-home mom and that type of a family which i am all for my point is then lower your expectations on the things that you may have that either even other neighbors family members and so on might have because you’re not going to have what they have if that’s the choice that you make and by the way You’re free to make that choice, and I would never criticize you for making that choice, but also don’t criticize others for having what they have and or complaining you don’t have it. Yeah. That’s my point.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, yeah, a lot of those others work themselves to the bone.
SPEAKER 14 :
And by the way, that may be for you, that may not be for you. Everybody’s different.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, if you’re going to make decisions in your life that are not going to produce as much income, as much revenue, then why are you blaming a president? Any president. If you want to get mad at a president, get mad at Biden, whose inflation was 5% to 9%. Okay, then you can get angry. Okay, you printed ridiculous sums of money so you could give tons of it to your supporters, and now we’re all paying for it because you made money worth less. And that drove up inflation. Trump’s inflation has been under 3%.
SPEAKER 14 :
And as I explained to Marty, I explained even to Jordan Goodman. And this is something that you never read about this in the press. The press will never explain this. Number one, because the press has never written a payroll check. They have no idea what it takes to run a business. And I will tell you right now, as a business owner, when interest rates are high, it drives inflation in and of itself because businesses borrow money. They borrow money for equipment, for trucks, for lines of credit, to make payroll, all sorts of things along those lines. And when the interest rates are up, so will their prices be because they have to pay that interest. And as I said numerous times, businesses don’t pay the expenses. The customers do, Andy. Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Let me look at one other thing, too. Do we have a sec? Yeah, we’re fine. Keep going.
SPEAKER 14 :
We’re good.
SPEAKER 06 :
And if Marty is out there, Marty, you can’t just erase inflation, and here’s why. During the time of inflation being 5% to 9% higher over the Biden years, people’s incomes also went up, commensurate with that. Now, did they go up as much as inflation? No, that’s why people were losing buying power, and it was really hurting Americans. But still, they are making a lot more money. The basic price that some kids making at Taco Bell is much more now than it was before Biden. You can’t, if you were to suddenly have all inflation go away, the only way you could do that and put prices back to where they were, the only way you could do that is to cut all their incomes in every single job in America back to what they were before. You can’t have all of inflation go away. That’s ridiculous. Why? Wageflation. That’s why. That would be ridiculous. All these people now are making far more money. And it could be a nurse. It could be a doctor. It could be a lawyer. It could be the kid at Taco Bell. It could be whoever. They’re all making more money now because they had to, to just at least somewhat keep up with what Biden did.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 06 :
And all that money printing is still out there.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s right. It is. Well, and by the way, some of the theft of that money, as we have seen happen in places like Minnesota, which is just absolutely ridiculous, the amount of theft that was going on there, folks. That’s your tax dollars at work.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
And by the way, that’s your tax dollars at work creating more inflation.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes. Now, the one thing I will side with Marty on is I believe Trump overpromised on what he could do with inflation. You and I have talked about that numerous times. I never agreed with what he was saying.
SPEAKER 14 :
I would have never said I’ll reduce inflation. You need to say I’ll stabilize it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. But has he done a great job with inflation versus the rising wages? Absolutely.
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We don’t yell at you. We inform you. Now, back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 14 :
All right, and we are back. Rush to Reason, Debra’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Somebody also texted in and said, yeah, the Internet says that Erica Kirk and J.D. Vance are having an affair as well, which is laughable, by the way. More than laughable.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s so funny.
SPEAKER 14 :
I mean, it’s like, really? Yeah, the Internet would say that because the Internet’s full of just a bunch of dodo heads. Yeah. I mean, really, people, come on now.
SPEAKER 06 :
All because of their hug. Like it was that bad. It wasn’t that bad.
SPEAKER 14 :
It’s just the dumbest thing ever. Okay, I got one quick story. I think I can squeeze in here in about a minute and a half. There was this – I saw this on one of the local news things that I get that gets fed to me. There’s a distraught Colorado mother – she’s been on social media – who is doing what everyone with a brain wants to do. Leave America. I shouldn’t have to walk away from everything I know. So this is a woman that has Trump deranged syndrome, and she just thinks that the United States is just an awful place to raise your kids. So she’s moving to Spain, and she just feels like she shouldn’t have to do this, but it’s the only way she can get away from all of the doldrum of America and how bad it is here, and on and on we go.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, this will be hilarious.
SPEAKER 14 :
It’s just it’s ridiculous, Andy. These people are there again. They have they have Trump derangement syndrome, period.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. These people, first of all, on the one hand, they say we need to allow all the immigrants to come here. And on the other hand, they don’t understand why they all want to come here. By the way, just I’m going to run to another country. Well, if all those countries were so great, that’s where the immigrants would be going.
SPEAKER 14 :
Her name is Duck.
SPEAKER 1 :
Oh, gosh.
SPEAKER 14 :
Sorry. I’m not making this stuff up. Her name is Duck. My name is Fawn. What do you think? Well, good for you. She’s going to take her and her young son. She’s got some older kids, I guess, that are in college. But she’s going to take her young son and they’re going to, you know, Duck and her young son are going to Spain.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, let me ask you this before we leave.
SPEAKER 14 :
She doesn’t like the way the U.S. treats immigrants, by the way.
SPEAKER 06 :
Because you’re angry because you got TDS.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
And you’re angry. You’re going to take your kid out of America and take him to… Spain. Spain. Is that child abuse?
SPEAKER 14 :
Probably. You might be able to find it that way. I mean, what a nut job.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, it’s horrible. I pity the kid.
SPEAKER 14 :
I do, too. I feel bad for the kid. All right, guys, have a great night. Be safe out there. We know we get super dark. We only have a few days left, I think 13 days left or so, until we actually end up going the other direction when it comes to more daylight each day. Have a great night. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 1 :
Rich guy.
