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Welcome to the Kim Monson Show podcast. Kim Monson is your host. The World Health Organization (WHO) recently published a high-profile statement declaring that a “new analysis reaffirmed that there is “no causal link between vaccines and autism.” Scientist Dr. James Lyons-Weiler discusses an epistemic audit of the WHO’s statement. Rancher Trent Loos addresses concerns regarding John Deere’s electric tractor. Engaged citizen Mike Rawluk details his thoughts about the Arvada Police Department’s potential purchase of a Drone First Responder (DFR). Mortgage specialist Lorne Levy shares the latest regarding mortgage rates. ————————————————————————————– The Kim Monson Show airs on KLZ 560
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On an equal field in the battle of ideas, mistruths and misconceptions is getting us into a world of hurt.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
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Indeed. Let’s have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured. You’re valued. You have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body, my friends. We were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team that I get to work with as Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Wednesday, Producer Joe. Happy Wednesday, Kim. And there is a lot going on, so fasten your seatbelts. It’s Wednesday, so that means that it is Wings Day at Hooters Restaurants. Hooters Restaurants has locations in Loveland, Aurora, and Westminster. Great place to get together to watch the Broncos as they are marching towards the playoffs. and a great place to get together with friends for lunch or happy hour because they have specials. How I got to know them, it’s a very important story about proper role of government, freedom, free markets, and capitalism, and those PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties that are trying to control our lives. It’s really an American story, how I got to know them. And so be sure and check out my website for all of my sponsors there. Our word of the day, let me get to it. I’ve been practicing it, and now we’ll see if I can say it, because it’s something we’re going to be talking with Dr. James Lyons-Weiler about as our featured guest this hour. And it’s epistemic. It’s spelled E-P-I-S-T-E-M-I-C. And it’s of or relating to or involving knowledge or cognitive. And he said he’s done an epistemic study on a recent statement from the WHO, the World Health Organization, WHO. And so I chose that as a word of the day. When I talked with him yesterday, I didn’t get the pronunciation right. And I thought, okay, let’s practice this. So it’s, again, it’s spelled E-P-I-S-T-E-M-I-C. It’s epistemic of relating to or involving knowledge or cognitive. So because we’re talking with scientist, Dr. James Linesweiler, As our featured guest in Hour One, I thought I’m going to go to a scientist for quotes. So I went to Albert Einstein. He was born in 1879. He died in April of 1955. He was a German-born theoretical physicist best known for developing the theory of relativity. He also had important contributions to quantum theory. And his mass energy equivalence formula, which arises from special relativity, has been called the world’s most famous equation. He received the 1921 Nobel Prize in Physics for his services to theoretical physics and especially for his discovery of the law of photoelectric effect. And he said this, He said the difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits. And as we are looking at this crazy march to electric electrification in Colorado, where I mean, I remember many years ago that there were I guess I think there were houses that could not be built after a certain time frame. with wood-burning fireplaces. So today, as Excel has said, that they might turn off the power. If you had a wood-burning fireplace, you would be able to create some warmth for yourself. And actually, I saw Karen Levine last night, and she said that, and maybe I don’t have that quite right, that you could not burn your fireplace wood-burning fireplace on red days, so days that were considered days of high pollution. But anyway, I remember many houses were not built with wood-burning fireplaces and so went to natural gas fireplaces, which is cool. Of course, we’ve been out I’ve seen all these really cool natural gas fireplaces. Well, in Colorado, we have the PUC, which is three members, all appointed by Jared Polis, that are out trying to regulate out gas appliances, your gas stove, our furnaces, and put us all to electric. Well, the grid is having challenges as it is, the electric grid, and Forcing people into just one power source will not play out well. So they, the PUC, through Governor Polis’s policies, has been moving us towards unreliable wind and solar. And these industrial projects are taking so much land. The transmission lines, they’re trying to take land, as we talked about, on a regular basis out in Elbert County, when I say they, XL. via eminent domain which this whole thing i think is a big land grab it’s taking though it’s taking farming and ranching land out of production which will affect our food production will affect the prices at the grocery store in the urban centers ultimately it could lead to to shortages. So this whole thing is connected. So we want choice. We want to be responsible because liberty is the responsible exercise of freedom. But pushing everybody to electrification and then saying, oops, we may turn your power off today because of high winds, then It’s like you know that the wind blows here, so we need to be figuring out what to do on those days so that we don’t turn people’s power off, so that they can stay warm and that they can continue to be productive. I have many friends that work from home, and you turn the electricity off, and they’re not able to work. They’re not able to produce. So Excel’s job, the PUC’s job, is to make sure that they are providing reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant power for their customers and for Coloradans. And that’s why I so appreciate Laramie Energy. There has been such a regulatory and legislative assault upon our naturally occurring hydrocarbons of oil, natural gas, and coal. And so we need to continue to shed light on this. 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So again, Albert Einstein said, the difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits. And one of the ways that all this is happening is because we are not paying attention. And as I’ve thought about Christmas parties and getting together with friends, this is all exciting and fun, but we also have to… be doing every day responsible things to protect this American idea and engage in the battle of ideas to talk with our friends and our family and our children and our grandchildren about it. So the first thing, this is pretty remarkable. As you know, we are working on this petition for Tina Peters, who is the former Mesa County Clerk and Recorder who is in a Colorado prison because she has been denied appeal on her case. And it’s Christmas time. And so we are calling on Governor Jared Polis to exhibit some mercy and kindness and compassion towards Tina Peters and release her at Christmastime. And I was just running through headlines here, and I left a message for Governor Polis the other day, and I meant to talk with him again yesterday. We are on a just on a tear on Christmas. all the work that we’re doing here. So I didn’t get him called yesterday, but I’m going to call him again today. And I think, let me make sure I have his contact information, if you would like to do this. Governor Jared Polis, his office is 303-866-2471. And his email is governorpolis at state.co.us. So you have some things to do today. You have some action items. First of all, make sure that you have signed the petition calling on Governor Polis to exhibit kindness and compassion. and mercy towards Tina Peters and release her by Christmas Eve. Next thing, you need to share that with all of your sphere of influence and ask them to sign and share. Next thing, again, his number is 303-866-2471. And as Governor Polis at state.co.us is call him and or email him today requesting again that he show mercy to Tina Peters and release her by Christmas Eve. Now I called the other day and I found this really remarkable as I was looking through headlines today. And this is from KUSA, which is Channel 9. And it says that Governor Polis, this was 12 hours ago when this was posted, says that former Colorado clerks should get the same treatment as other inmates. OK, so I start to read this and Colorado Governor Jared Polis, a Democrat, said there could be one way former Republican Mesa County Clerk Tina Peters gets out of prison early. And it was not because of a pardon from President Donald Trump. Like any inmate, if she is very sick or she has cancer or anything like that, we would look at them at letting her out on mercy as we would do that for any inmate, Polis said. I wouldn’t treat her any differently than we would anybody else. These are the words that we are calling on him to exhibit mercy. And he’s talking about it, my friends. So pedal to the metal. Let’s contact him and ask him, call on him to do the merciful and kind and compassionate thing and release her by Christmas Eve. Now, the petition that’s being signed, it comes into me. I’m not using a third-party signature gathering petition gathering group. It’s coming into me, and I will take this petition down on Monday the 22nd, and I am going to include first name, first first initial of the last name and very possibly the state and so my friends here at christmas time you can’t leave it up to somebody else i don’t know how many of you so many of you have over this time have contacted and said what do we do well we’ve got down to the politics on this we’re over on the humanitarian side and polis can look very good and he if he lets her out and is merciful and so pedal to the metal on this my friends You’ve got work to do. 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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. It’s year-end, and two great organizations to make year-end contributions to is the USMC Memorial Foundation, which you can do that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. It’s a way to say thank you to those who have given their lives or have been willing to give their lives for our liberty. And the other is the Center for American Values. which they are honoring our Medal of Honor recipients and engaged in the battle of ideas. They’re nonpolitical, nonpartisan, but just focused on honor, integrity, and patriotism. That website is AmericanValueCenter.org. On the line with me is Mike Rolick. You know him. He is a concerned citizen. He’s a citizen watchdog. He’s with the Ralston Valley Coalition. And we are pre-recording our shows for next week. And we always run out of time with Mike. He’s just so informed. And this wasn’t his studies in school. He was in music and things like that. But Mike Rolick, welcome to the show because your voice and your analysis is so important. And you’ve started a Substack. So tell us just a little bit about your journey from music to Concerned Citizen to Substack.
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Hi, Kim. Good morning. Well, that’s quite the introduction. Thank you for the kind words. Well, yeah, a long time ago when I was young, I thought about, you know, being a musician. And so I ended up going to music college and stuff like that, was in a lot of different bands, whether it’s a jazz band, all the way to metal, hard rock, whatever I could find, pop, you know, and jazz. Ended up also getting into aviation. So moved to California to teach because the weather’s great out there and had opportunities to go play music out there. And came here for aviation work. A lot of opportunities. And I’m very happy where I’m at. But, you know… always was thinking about things and always hoping there was someone else that would fix it. So started listening to talk radio, I guess on construction sites and things like that. And my father would talk to me about current events, but it’s interesting to listen. It’s another thing to try to start getting involved. And so what happened here, um, I didn’t really do a lot except for, um, you know, just a whole observing once or twice in California, uh, things like that. And it was just, it wasn’t really, well, I wasn’t really finding, you know, where I would fit and then really got involved into the land use thing here during COVID. There was a construction project that was going to go across the street, rental only 10 to 12 units, whatever per acre next to multiple acre spreads. And I don’t live in that kind of neighborhood, you know, like I can’t afford multiple acres, but you know, the people that are there, I was like, my gosh, they’ve been there forever. This one doesn’t fit with the other. There’s a place to rental. There’s a place for a large parcel of land. But when you start looking at compatibility and kind of the vibe of this being forced, you know, it’s like, okay, we got involved. And then from there, I found out about this Amazon situation that was going to go on in Nevada. And for me, that was more about a jobs preservation thing to look at an Amazon and say, They are going to be, and all logistics distribution centers are going automated, fully automated. You can look at the research back in 2020, 2021, and you have a skeleton crew of people with highly automated plants. And then at a certain point, they want to go full drone, full autonomous vehicle. So I kind of got involved from there. We developed the Ralston Valley Coalition for that purpose and then to help with other land use issues and help with other projects.
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groups to interject on interject on the amazon side because i watched that as well and uh i what was amazon was shopping all over the country to get all kinds of of of special incentives uh to do their facility and that’s not the way things are supposed to work economic development these economic development offices and the and the municipal or the county or the state level all it really is is uh treating entities different doing special things for one business where the other businesses don’t get that and i am totally opposed to that so i was opposed to that amazon thing because they were getting special treatment and so people were coming at it from different ways but i just wanted to interject that mike
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Sure. And so part of the special treatment, I think, was that they were buying the land under NDA. So the landowners that were selling did not know who they were selling to. And one particular landowner, when he found out who the end user was, felt pretty bad. upset as well and told us that when we won, it was divine intervention because that’s not the end user he wanted for the land either. So it is interesting to be able to sell, have like a shadowy project. It was called Project Indiana. There’s another company that was buying it in quotes. NDA is everywhere. We happen to find out.
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And an NDA is a nondisclosure agreement. So it’s not transparent. And you and I both, transparency is key. That’s number one that we think is so important.
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Exactly. And then from there, obviously, just kind of kept growing and started seeing land use and land developments. We talked about private property rights. We had the discussion with zoning earlier on with Natalie mentioned as well. And zoning can be used for freedom or can be used as a force for coercion. Right. And so we always have to look at that and say, you know, it’s just like, you know, any other tool. Right. It could be used for one or another. What’s interesting, you and I had talked about Glow Park. There’s another project. I don’t know who’s in Lakewood, but this is coming up for a vote tomorrow if you guys are interested in looking at this. 1881 Pier Street and 1900 Breed Street. Apparently it’s an intersection there. There’s state land that they’re looking to redevelop into basically the same request for quote that we saw at Globe Park, where it’s state land, but then they want to have affordable housing, attainable housing market rate housing and then how they say it we’re feasible commercial uses this is this is public land i don’t know why we have to do this kind of project at all senate bill 22 130 allows for only affordable housing so if we look at the strict interpretation of the actual bill that was passed by the state this falls short because once again they’re adding in a palette of different types of uses Where truly, if there’s people that are truly in need, and this bill was set up for that almost four years ago, that’s one thing. We can have that conversation about affordable housing and the limits on such. But to look at attainable housing, and there’s always that slippage. Attainable housing is 80% to 120% AMI. And what we’re looking at there for the Lakewood area is $68,000 to $102,946 thereabouts. According to census.gov, area median income is $85,789 from 2019 to 2023. So we’re looking at having potential state housing for folks that are making a six-figure income.
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Yeah, well, government housing does not work out well. How about if they… I don’t think the state should be owning that land. I think they should be… How about selling that to individuals so that they could build their own personal home there and get rid of rules and regulations or the onerous ones that reduces the prices and let people have a choice? I’m just so frustrated with this, Mike Rolick, because under the word affordable and attainable, it’s this big land grab. And people can’t create wealth with owning their home or they’re taking away that choice. And so I’m so pleased that you’re on top of this.
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Yeah, it bothers me as well. But like I said, the most, Current, like the most immediate situation is this vote is going to be tomorrow at the Capital Development Committee. Rep Tammy Story is the chair. And when we talked to her about Globe Park, she was very welcoming to our point of view. She actually agreed that the situation, when it says attainable versus affordable, market rate versus affordable, you know, and I’ll play devil’s advocate on both basic viewpoints, right? If I was interested in affordable housing, which I’m not saying I am or not, but if I was, I would look at this as an affront because you’re taking away the options for more affordable housing and go on market rate housing, commercial uses, and attainable. And my goal would be 100% affordable. If I’m coming from the invisible hand of the market perspective, I would say what is a state doing getting involved in housing at all? Part of this land right now is zoned for mixed-use employment, and that’s supposed to try to drive employment opportunities. So we’re looking at creating some low-income housing, affordable housing, I shouldn’t say low-income. It could be derogatory. I don’t want to do that. But affordable housing. Some attainable. Right. But this is supposed to be for employment. So are we missing also the point that, you know, if a government facility needs to be there and you’re creating employment, that people can then take their own money, make their own choice. But you’re getting rid of an employment opportunity to create a pallet of housing that most of it doesn’t fit under the law in the first place. It’s just. It’s just very complicated. I would ask if anyone has a time, Capital Development Committee, if you look at year-round committees plus Colorado, or just Capital Development Committee plus Colorado, it’s very easy to find. There are six representatives on that. It’s Rep. Tammy Story. You’ve got Ty Winter. And then Kyle Mullica, Mandy Lindsey, Byron Pelton, and Nick Hinrichsen. We have met with two of them and had e-mails with others, and we got their attention last time on the Glow Park situation. And I would just ask that people do write in and say this is getting voted on tomorrow, but these are the concerns that you might have or I might have.
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Excellent work on that. And so people can go to the Colorado State Legislature website, and again, what’s that committee?
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It’s called the Capital Development Committee.
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And your recommendation, I’m sorry, go ahead, Mike. Sorry, I didn’t mean to talk over you.
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And it’s called a year-round committee. So if you do a search and you get into the year-round committees, it’s in that drop-down, yeah.
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Okay. And, again, your call to action for people would be to say what?
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Basically say how you feel. I can put this. The request for quote on the Substack, I can send it to you as well in case people are looking for the actual PDF. But, you know, strict interpretation of the law, I think, number one, is my first priority. And the second priority is, is the state supposed to be getting into 100-year ground leases for housing in the first place? So there’s an overarching, is this the right thing to do? And then the other thing is, in the immediate, are you actually looking at the law correctly or not? Or, sorry, is the state looking at the law correctly? Because, again, a strict construction. This falls short. This falls short. We don’t need commercial uses because it’s not in the law.
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Okay. And give us your substack quickly on that as well. I know once you get it in your brain, it works. But tell us what your substack is.
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I should be able to be found under reasonable expectation of transparency, just to play on words for reasonable expectation of privacy, because it’s kind of going the other way, looking at government and saying, you know, we have a reasonable expectation of government transparency. So, yeah, Substack and just search reasonable expectation of transparency. I will try to get that up right now.
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Okay, great. Mike Rolick, thank you so much. We’re prerecorded for next week. We did a whole hour with you on some important issues, so we’ll talk live in a couple of weeks. And Merry Christmas to you and yours.
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Merry Christmas as well. Thank you so much.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And sign up for our weekly email newsletter. And you can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. I’m pleased to have on the line with me Dr. James Lyons-Weiler. He is a scientist. He is the founder of IPAC, which is the Institute for Pure and Applied Knowledge. and then created during COVID, IPAK-EDU, which is bringing amazing instructors to people that are curious about a variety of different issues at an affordable tuition price and interactive as well. And that website is IPAK, I-P-A-K-EDU.org. Dr. James Linesweiler, welcome.
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Good morning, Kim. How is everyone out there in Colorado today?
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Well, we’re good. We’ve got some challenges out here. Apparently, we’re going to have some high winds, and Xcel Energy has said that they might turn power off for a whole bunch of people. Now they’re walking that back a little bit. But, Dr. Jack, that really affects productivity. It affects keeping our houses warm. So we’ve got a few little challenges out here right now, Dr. Jack.
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It’s so important that people become independent as much as possible with their own power sources, whether it’s a gasoline generator for a period of time and a supply of gasoline or geothermal. Out there, I understand that that’s a possibility, but at the end of the day, we have to hold people accountable for being ready for this kind of thing. In Michigan, we have… neglect in removing trees, trimming back trees from the line for years, and the next thing you know, there’s hundreds and hundreds of problems, and they last a long time. It’s more than an inconvenience, you’re right.
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Well, since you were going to be on today, I normally have a quote of the day. And I went to Albert Einstein, because he’s a scientist, you’re a scientist. And this quote, it just reached out to me. He said, the difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits. And we have let, I know, like you say, keep the trees away from the power lines. There’s things that just make basic sense. Out here in Colorado, they’ve been pushing us to electrification. So trying to outlaw or outregulate having like a gas range or natural gas powered heat.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, don’t burn anything for power, right.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, but then we get to this and they say, oh, we’re going to turn the power off. Well, I think people are starting to pay attention and saying this is madness.
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You know, a wood-burning stove goes a long way for a lot of people’s houses, too. So, yeah, policy that… focuses on solving one problem without optimizing for others, that’s a pretty stupid thing to do. So I agree with Einstein.
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Well, definitely. Well, let’s get over here. Well, first of all, tell us, IPAC-EDU, you’re probably getting ready. I can’t believe we’re near the end of the year, so you’re going to be getting ready for spring soon, the spring semester, yes?
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Yes, we are. We have college-level advanced courses, simple courses in law, in science, in biology. We have neurohealth, health and wellness curriculum track, and people can go there and find out ways that they might be able to engage with the IPAC-EDU community you know, some of the best people in the world from the instructors to the other course participants. These are lifelong learners who don’t take things at face value. You know, you’re probably going to learn things that are not taught in the classroom in universities along with, you know, the bulk of the mainstay, you know, facts that are taught in universities. We don’t offer any certificate or degrees. There’s no need for that. If you want to come learn with us, that’s reason enough to be there. And we welcome all participants.
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And again, it’s affordable, and it’s not just being talked at. It’s also interactive, and people create friendships with this. And it’s ipac-edu.org for more information. So let’s get over here. And I used your word of the day when we talked yesterday. I was having a little trouble on epistemic. Did I get that right?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, epistemic works. This is an area of study in which we try to understand how we know things. You might also hear the word epistemology.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, I have. Okay, so you did an epistemic audit. This is an article that you recently published, an epistemic audit on WHO’s, the World Health Organization’s, December 2025 statement on vaccines and autism. So walk us through this.
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Yeah, I will go through details because it’s actually quite detailed in terms of the specific things. Let’s talk about the big picture here. You know, the CDC, under Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’ ‘s direction, updated in November 19th a key website that’s been a bone of contention for years, in fact for decades. The CDC’s website used to say vaccines do not cause autism. which is what I call a positive knowledge claim. A positive knowledge claim would be verifiable by evidence. And so that position that CDC has, vaccines do not cause autism, was one of the first things I noticed when I came into the question of vaccine safety way back in 2015. All right, we all heard a million times, vaccines do not cause autism, so there must be solid science backing it, right? I mean, that means a couple of key things. All pediatric vaccines exposed to anyone who might develop autism have been tested for causation of autism. And how do we test medicine, drugs, and vaccines? We test them by experimentation. So they should have been tested on a bunch of animals, different animals, to see if there’s any cognitive deficits. They should have been tested in a prospective randomized clinical trial where some kids were given vaccines and some kids weren’t. And then we could see the different rates of the development of regressive autism or autism or anything on the spectrum. And when I looked at the data, looked at the studies, I went to the literature and I tried to download all of the studies that show pertussis vaccine does not cause autism or the MMR does not cause autism. or meningococcal vaccine, or the chickenpox vaccine does not cause autism. These are basic steps. Anybody with a keyboard and internet access can access the peer-reviewed publication literature. And what I found in 2015 was that rotavirus had never been tested for any association or causation with autism. The pneumococcal vaccine never tested. The poliovirus vaccine never tested. The influenza vaccine never tested. Meningococcal never tested and so on. And so there’s a slew of vaccines that have never actually been looked at, not even with weak association studies, let alone the stronger causal studies. And worse than that, I found Two studies at that time that showed its positive association of vaccines with hepatitis B vaccine. Six studies showed association between diphtheria, tetanus, and acellular pertussis, or the DTaP vaccine. Two studies with haemophila influenza. And one study each for varicella and hepatitis A vaccine. So it really bothered me that the CDC website at the time said vaccines do not cause autism. And so I started… the CDC accountability project where I was going to sue the CDC to produce the data that vaccines do not cause autism and hopefully you know under a writ of mandamus from a judge force the CDC to change the autism and vaccines page at the CDC to say that vaccines do not cause autism is not supported by the evidence. There’s insufficient evidence one way or the other or it’s still under study or something. But to say a positive knowledge claim vaccines do not cause autism is absolutely not supported by the data. It’s not supported then and it’s not supported now 20 years later. And so looking at it – or 10 years later, sorry. So looking at it over the last 10 years, I started collecting money. I started working with lawyers. And then I got a call from Aaron Seary. And Aaron Seary said, hey, Dr. Jack. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Del Bigtree have asked me to call you to ask you to put your case aside and let us go forward with our case. I said, well, you know, Aaron, what’s your case based on? Well, we’re going to force them to show all the data that show that vaccines do not cause autism and they won’t be able to do it. I said, well, that’s fine. I said, why don’t you add in a writ of mandamus? And they never did that. They never added a writ of mandamus from the judge. So what happened was that that team won in court. They got a concession from CDC, from HHS, that there’s no evidence that vaccines do not cause autism. There’s insufficient evidence that all vaccines have been studied. And And then they changed the website to take down the statement, vaccines do not cause autism. Well, a month later, because there is no writ of mandamus, they put the website back up.
SPEAKER 12 :
The writ of mandamus, explain that. I kind of know a little bit about that. So they took it down, but because there was no writ of mandamus, they put it back up. So what’s that loophole?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, they can do whatever they want because they would not be in violation of a court order. A writ of mandamus is an order from a judge to any government employee to… act properly on policy or back properly from the bench so the CDC would have been held in contempt of court that would have been another headline so you know strategically it was an oversight or whatever on their part the point is now Robert Kennedy jr. director of HHS sorry secretary of HHS he has control of the CDC they changed the website and to in November, the claim vaccines do not cause autism is not an evidence based claim because studies have not ruled out the possibility that infant vaccines cause autism. It also says studies supporting a link have been ignored by health authorities. And it says that HHS has launched a comprehensive assessment of the causes of autism, including investigations on plausible biological mechanisms and potential causal links. Well, OK, so we’ve heard that the American Academy of Pediatrics and other medical associations are imploring their members to ignore the CDC on vaccines. Don’t pay attention to what the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices recommends. Ignore what comes out of CDC. Ignore the website. All right. So for years they told us to follow the science, follow the science, follow the science. We heard it with COVID. What Kennedy and I and others are doing are we’re following the science. And the science told us that there’s insufficient evidence to say the vaccines do not cause autism. That’s a fact now. But they’re now ASIP, sorry, American Academy of Pediatrics and other organizations are telling doctors to ignore the science. Ignore science completely and just go with our recommendations on vaccines because we’re right and they’re wrong. Okay. So go ahead.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, no, you go ahead because I think this is going to segue us into the next segment because something is happening right out in Colorado today with the CDPHE, the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment, regarding not saying don’t follow the CDC, but I think it’s the American Academy of Pediatrics, and that’s happening today. So finish your thought. We’ll go to break and we’ll come back.
SPEAKER 04 :
So it’s happening all around the country and all around the country. American Academy of Pediatrics is meddling, really meddling with the authority of CDC, which is authorized by the U.S. Senate and by signature of the President of the United States to set a national policy. So now the AAP is really at odds with the President of the United States, the executive branch of the government, and the legislative branch of the government. And I don’t know how it’s going to turn out for them because, you know, we have… The United States of America has finally convinced the people of the United States of America and doctors and scientists like myself have finally convinced HHS and CDC that vaccines do not cause autism is an overreach. It’s a statement that’s not… And so what’s happening with the World Health Organization and why people should read the epistemic audit that I did on the World Health Organization’s recent review And they’re just recycling the same old arguments that were used to mislead the Trump administration last time on this question. A bunch of U.S.-based organizations actually sent President Trump a list of, I think it was 28 studies or something, saying, look, these studies show that vaccines do not cause autism. but there’s not every vaccine is included in the list even in their own studies and their studies fall short of being able to test the causality evidence anyway the causality uh claim anyway you know to be able to rule out or rule in the causality they’re just correlation studies and we hear it all the time correlation does not equal causation whenever there’s a study that does find a correlation So if these studies could not actually have tested the hypothesis to begin with, then there’s insufficient evidence. And if you really want to get into a deep dive about this and, you know, are we now going to have the American Academy of Pediatrics listening to the World Health Organization while they’re ignoring the CDC? That’s what’s at stake here. Are all pediatricians in the United States going to ignore the science and follow along with some globalist plan to take over health care in the United States for our children? I don’t think that’s what we want.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, well, we’re going to continue the discussion on this because I’m wondering if even this information is getting to some of these pediatricians. Dr. James Linesweiler is doing amazing work for our children, for our country, and transparency. We talked about it with Mike Rolick in the previous segment. It’s so important. These discussions, I hope, are helping you so that you can engage in this battle of ideas that’s raging in our country today. And we have these discussions because of our sponsors. And for everything mortgages, reach out to Lorne Levy. He can help you in 49 states with a mortgage, just not New York. But if people are moving out of New York, he can help you with that new mortgage.
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Welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That’s Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And we talk about freedom all the time on the show and your financial freedom, your own individual financial freedom is so important and Mint Financial Strategies can help you with that. They’re an independent firm with over 25 years of experience. They are an accredited investment fiduciary, and they will always put your best interest first, and they will help you get to your own individual financial freedom. Their number is 303-285-3080, 303-285-3080. I’m talking with Dr. James Lyons-Weiler. He is a scientist. He is the founder of IPAC, which is the Institute for Pure and Applied Knowledge, and then their great educational… uh component of that it’s ipac-edu.org and they’re preparing for their spring semester that’s right around the corner after the first of the year but dr jack we’re talking about this piece that you’ve written it’s an epistemic study of the world health organization’s statement that vaccines do not cause autism, but you were trying to find where they based that. Now the American Academy of Pediatrics, since Robert Kennedy, Jr., who’s secretary of the HHS, they’ve changed the website for the HHS to not reflect that. We’ll just put it that way. But now the American Academy of Pediatrics is doing a runaround. We’re seeing it happen right here in Colorado. And I’m just wondering if pediatricians know what’s going on here. I know that so many parents of young children, they want to do the right thing. They look to their pediatrician for advice. Is this information getting out to these pediatricians?
SPEAKER 04 :
Pediatricians are listening to the AAP website. their medical boards, which determine whether they are allowed to practice pediatric medicine. And so they feel, I’m sure, that their hands are tied. They have to go with the flow. Remember that any pediatrician like Dr. Paul Thomas that dared to not vaccinate some of his children, they get attacked, vilified. You know, called a quack, and they go after the medical licenses viciously. So, yeah, what we really need to do is we need to know that the American public needs to understand that the World Health Organization wants to take over public health policy in the United States of America. And when it comes to our children’s health, there’s nothing more precious and sacred to us than the well-being and future of our children And it’s not just vaccines and autism. There are 200 other vaccines that are in the pipeline that pharmaceutical companies would love to inject into our children for conditions that our children are not dying from right now. They’re mild infections. They’re infections that never happen anywhere in the United States. And so if we want to add more vaccines to the vaccine schedule and make sure that our children are mandated to get these vaccines to get into school, then we should follow the World Health Organization. And further, the World Health Organization, I am sure, will also misinform all pediatricians on facts like you can recover children from autism. There are children that have been empowered to become neurotypical after chelation. Chelation has become a bad word because there are studies, just like in COVID, they fake studies on effective treatment so that they can have room in a clinical space for vaccines. They have fake studies on chelation to argue that, oh, we can’t do this. All chelation is bad because there were some problems with some chelation.
SPEAKER 12 :
And what’s chelation? What is that exactly? We have a couple of minutes left. What is that?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, chelation is the removal of metals from the body. If you work in an aluminum foundry and you’re exposed by accident to a huge amount of aluminum, they know exactly what’s going to happen to you clinically. You’re going to develop encephalopathy. You’re going to stop looking at people. You’re going to not be able to talk. You’re going to basically have an open-eyed coma, and so they have to get the aluminum out. And they get the aluminum out by doing chelation. There are various chemicals you can put into the blood and it pulls the metals out. Well, at IPAC, we’re working on chelation protocols that do not involve injecting anything into the blood. They’re dietary. They use natural supplements. I’m not selling anything, but I’m just advocating for science through HHS to get these methods of chelating children, all children, out. I reversed my own asthma with a mild chelation exercise. I have to repeat it every few years, I found out. It’s a three-week protocol. It doesn’t affect my life whatsoever in any way. No adverse events for me. And I’d like to see it tested by HHS. Well, it’s a good thing Bob Ross Kennedy Jr. is in charge of HHS and CDC and the NIH so that these kinds of new ideas can come forward. And you can bet that the World Health Organization will say this is all baloney. When we start reversing severe autism in children, and they’ve returned to neurotypical because we took out the causal element of mercury and aluminum, who have proven causality. And therefore, decades of cover-up will be proven. Well, they’ve turned to the World Health Organization as if they have some authority in the United States, and we know that they do not. We know, due to President Trump’s positions and policies, the World Health Organization has zero authority on public health in the United States.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, gosh. Dr. Jack, we’re out of time, but I will tell you after talking with you last month, I’m doing my Christmas baking and I looked at my baking powder and saw there was aluminum in there and then was able to go. I went to Whole Foods and got baking powder without aluminum because of you. So we’re out of time, but oh my gosh, Merry Christmas to you and yours and we will talk with you in the new year.
SPEAKER 04 :
Merry Christmas, everybody. Red Mill is the brand she’s talking about. Red Mill is the aluminum-free version, I believe, that she probably found. And Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone. Thank you, Kim.
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And our quote for the end of the show is Albert Einstein. He said, The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything. So go to my website, sign the petition to call on Jared Polis to release Tina Peters, and we’ll be right back.
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Yes, and we, fasten your seatbelts, there’s so much going on. We’ve been working diligently as we are recording for next week. We’ll take next, I say we’ll take next week off. We always work double so that we can take a little bit of time off. But some great interviews with great people. guests, and we are going to do a rebroadcast of two very special interviews. Otherwise, everything is new, and we’re pre-recording that for the Kim Monson Show. As you know, many times we are rebroadcasting some of our great interviews on America’s Veterans Stories, and the reason is because they’re great nuggets of perspective, and it’s okay if you’ve heard it to hear it again. If you’ve not heard some of these interviews and many of these Guys have passed on. They’re just really golden. So America’s Veterans Stories broadcasts 3 to 4 p.m. on all KLZ 560 platforms, and that’s on Sunday afternoons. So let’s jump in here. There’s so much going on. First of all, I did want to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their goal sponsorship of the show because it’s reliable. And with this whole potential power outage today, reliable, we like that. Efficient, we like that. Affordable, like that. Abundant, like that for our power sources. And they occur from naturally occurring hydrocarbons such as oil, natural gas, and coal, which is under regulatory and legislative attack here in Colorado. But it powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate. So I appreciate LearnMe Energy’s partnership in this to get the truth out on these issues. And if you are having any particular challenges regarding your own personal climate, being warm in the winter, reach out to Ben’s Plumbing, Heating, and Cooling, and you can find their phone number, all that information there. regarding my sponsors is on the sponsor tab at kimmonson.com. Our word of the day, and we had a significant discussion about it with Dr. Jack in the first hour, and the show comes to you 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. The first hour is rebroadcast in the afternoon, 1 to 2, second hour, 10 to 11 at night. And so if you miss that, you can catch that 1 to 2 today. But epistemic is our word of the day. It’s of relating to or involving knowledge or cognitive knowledge. And so your challenge is to try to use that in a sentence today. He used this as an epistemic study of the World Health Organization’s statement that there is no connection between vaccines and autism. But he asked, where’s the proof? And so he did that particular study. Your challenge, epistemic, is E-P-I-S-T-E-M-I-C, is to use that in a sentence today. And our quote of the day, I was looking for scientists, so I went to Albert Einstein. He was born in 1879, died in 1955. He was a German-born theoretical physicist best known for developing the theory of relativity. And his quote is this. He said, the difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits. And again, that’s Albert Einstein. And go to my website, and there is a red banner at the top. Sign the petition calling on Governor Polis for humanitarian reasons to release former Mesa County Clerk and Recorder Tina Peters from prison for basically, A, to exhibit during Christmastime the compassion and kindness and mercy. Number two, Tina Peters is a cancer survivor. There’s concerns that her cancer may be reoccurring, and she needs medical care. So release her for those humanitarian reasons. And then lastly, her mother is 97 years old, and she would like to see her mother. And so those are good reasons. We’re out of the political side on that. We’re over on the humanitarian side. So sign the petition. Share the petition with your sphere of influence and ask them to sign it as well. And I left a message for Governor Polis the other day, and I’m going to try to call every day. Yesterday got away from me. But there is a headline here that he is using our words. And this is from KUSA. Channel 9, and this was posted about 12 hours ago, says Colorado Governor Jared Polis, a Democrat, said there could be one way former Republican Mesa County Clerk Tina Peters could get out of prison early, and it was not because of a pardon from President Donald Trump. Like any inmate, if she is very sick or if she has cancer or anything like that, we would look at them at letting her out on mercy as we would do for any inmate. Paula said, I wouldn’t treat her any differently than we would anybody else. So the timing is perfect for this. Every year during this time since he has been governor, this is 2019, he has issued pardons or commuted sentences for people. Last year he pardoned 22 people. He commuted sentences for four people. Of those 22 that he pardoned, two were murderers, one was a rapist, and one was a bank robber. Tina Peters didn’t even have a traffic ticket before this whole ordeal. So on strict humanitarian merciful reasons, we call on Governor Polis to release her by Christmas Eve. And the petition is getting a lot of interest, but make your voices heard. You can also call the governor. And that number is 303-866-2471, or you can send him an email at governorpolis at state.co.us. And no matter where you are on this issue, I think each of us can dig deep and call on him to show compassion and mercy and kindness. And we ourselves, on calling him to do that, are exhibiting the same thing. And that is pretty important at this Christmas time. And on the line with me is Lorne Levy, and he is a great sponsor of the show. He is a mortgage expert. And I had dinner with our mutual friend, Karen Levine, last night, and she said he is… I’ll paraphrase a bit, but he’s just so special. He’s honest. He cares so much about his clients. He’s a delight to work with. 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And I know you’re probably blushing. But let’s jump into every week. You give us a weekly update. And the Fed has lowered the short-term interest rates. The mortgage rates have remained in the 10-year Treasury. They’ve not really moved a whole lot, maybe moved up a little bit. So are there still opportunities out there? What are you talking with people about?
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Yeah, there are. And what we’re seeing is a little bit of a balancing out now on the purchasing side. We just had a person who went under contract on a home yesterday that was able to get a little bit below, not a lot, but a little bit below the asking price and got some concessions from the seller. Again, not a lot, but it was movement. And it was an opportunity they were thankful to take advantage of. It was a home they had their eye on. And the rates have been holding steady. I mean… I think we’re in a market now where people are used to the rates. We’ve gotten over the low rates of before, and people are used to these rates now and are hopefully able to find opportunities here if they’re looking to buy a home. And then likewise, like I keep saying to you guys, we have credit card debt in this country that is as high as it’s ever been. And especially coming through the holidays now, it’s probably going to go higher just with all the gift buying that goes on around this time of year. And those credit cards have rates in the 20s. And so it’s really nice when you can help people get lower rates and consolidate their debt and free up a lot of money on a monthly basis in their life. It’s fun to help them do that.
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Well, and they talk about affordability all the time, and this is over in the other arena. And what I’ve learned is that government is making life unaffordable for everyday people through property taxes and just taxes across the board and mandates and fees. So I’m working over on that side to try to help people on an affordability standpoint to shed light on all that’s going on. But But that plays out in everyday people’s lives that they have, as you mentioned the other day when you were on the show, that they may have that car repair they need to do. It’s not just going out and buying big screen TVs. Affordability for the basics has been difficult. And so you’ve been able to help some of these folks that are just trying to live life. And I think that is so important, Lauren Levy.
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That’s true, and the values on homes have been holding up. I talked to someone yesterday who’s looking to buy a home, and they’re going to use a reverse mortgage to buy the home to get some more leverage. Based on their age, they were going to buy roughly a $490,000 home, a townhome is what it was. They had money from a previous sale, but they didn’t have $490,000. And so we’re going to do a reverse mortgage so they don’t have a mortgage payment to help them pick up the rest and get on with their life in retirement. So there’s a lot of opportunity. There’s things to be looked at. And we just always urge people to give us a call to have a conversation to see if there’s a way that we can help.
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Well, and another thing, for parents that might want to help their kids with a down payment, the parent could use a reverse mortgage to help the kids with a down payment so the kids don’t have to wait until the parents die to access those funds. So there’s a lot of strategies, and you can help people with all that, yes?
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Yeah, there’s tons of strategies, quite frankly, especially when you bring reverse mortgages into play. But yeah, there’s a lot of ways to do things. Sometimes, especially with our affordability crisis we have here, younger people can’t necessarily even qualify, but parents can co-sign with them just on a regular loan. There’s a lot of ways to look at things to help people, so it’s always worth just talking about it and seeing what’s available to try to help people get into homes or reduce their monthly burden.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, and can you help people with reverse mortgages? Since you’re in all 49 states, does that mean you could do reverse mortgages in 49 states too?
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Yeah. Yeah. We can, we can all, and there is different criteria for that, but we can always add a state real easily as well if we need to. So yes, the answer is yes, we can help people in all 49 states except New York.
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Okay. How can people reach you, Lorne Levy?
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Right, and you will pay for the appraisal for Kim Monson Show listeners as well. Correct. Yeah, so I can’t believe we’re at the end of the year. We’ve already prerecorded with you for next week, so we’ll talk in a couple of weeks, but I wish you and yours a very happy Hanukkah and a very Merry Christmas.
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Same to you. Thank you so much, Kim.
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Hi, Kim. Are you familiar with ZZ Top?
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I’ve heard of him.
SPEAKER 05 :
The band, you know, it’s a band, right?
SPEAKER 12 :
Uh-huh, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Legs, legs, you know.
SPEAKER 12 :
I never listen to ZZ Top much.
SPEAKER 05 :
One of the members of the ZZ Top band does not have a beard. Is that person a girl? No, it’s a guy.
SPEAKER 12 :
I don’t know.
SPEAKER 05 :
One guy in the ZZ Top band did not have a beard. The rest of them had these big, like, massy beards. What’s the one guy’s name who does not have a beard? I don’t know.
SPEAKER 12 :
ZZ Top? ZZ Top?
SPEAKER 05 :
frank beard where did you come up with that that is funny you know i i just have these retained facts in my head and you’re talking about all of these beards in your group there and i thought well that makes me think of frank beard who’s a member of the band that’s known for their beards and he doesn’t have a beard
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, and that you were referring to Paula Beard and Ray Beard, who are on the board with us on the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. I never know what you’re going to come up with.
SPEAKER 05 :
Are they the Frank Beard?
SPEAKER 12 :
I don’t think so, but I’ll ask them, okay? Okay. So let’s jump over here. Sometimes I get into this and I forget to ask the question that I’ve teased in the newsletter. And Zach has said, Kim, you always need to make sure. It’s kind of an integrity thing. If you say you’re going to talk about it, talk about it. So I’m going to ask you first. I saw a headline for it. An electric tractor from John Deere. And I’m thinking, oh, how’s this going to work? Because we’ve talked about it before. The farmers, he’s got his tractor out in the field. And so at the end of the day, he’s tired. He’s going to take it in and charge it. What’s this look like?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I think the end of the day will come a lot quicker if he’s got an electric tracker because they won’t last all day and night. I mean, when these guys get to farming today, hours don’t mean anything. They go until they get done. I know that John Deere’s flirting with this whole line of electric vehicles. I know that Bill Gates is their largest individual shareholder. I know that BlackRock has a tremendous amount of influence, and I think they own 9%. To me, it’s just a lot of noise to try to make it appear to be something they’re not. But I don’t see how they can be functionally out in the field relying on electric tractors.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, so next question, and you may know this, and I just realized that I need to figure this out. We talk about BlackRock all the time. Larry Fink, who’s the head of BlackRock, is also the head of the World Economic Forum now. We’ve got this whole thing out here regarding Excel is doing this big land grab on these industrial transmission lines as well as the big land grab through the industrial wind and solar projects. And so I did a little bit of research, and somebody said, Kim, check out who owns Xcel Energy. And I think it was 13%, 14% was Vanguard, and I think just south of either 7% or 8% was BlackRock. Where does BlackRock get all their money? Do you know that? I don’t know that, but I need to go to work and find out.
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s an investment fund. So people give them money to invest, and then they invest it in these companies. It’s just a mutual investment fund.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. Okay. Well, I’m going to research more of that. So it’s basically, in a way, kind of like a mutual fund then, yes? And so people put money in there. They are looking for a return on investment, which that was one of the things when I made my comments in front of the PUC, the Public Utilities Commission, out in Albert County a week ago. on Tuesday evening I said the way this is supposed to work is you have shareholders that invest in a company such as Excel and Excel is supposed to be providing reliable efficient affordable and abundant power to its customers they pay for that power the shareholders get a return on investment that’s the way it’s supposed to work but I said that when you add in these land grabs that changes everything and i called on the commissioners to be on the right side of history and to deny this permit for excel to take this land in under the guise of a transmission line which this was another thing trent that was super interesting is that many of the farmers and ranchers and it was standing room only when i got there i spoke late and so people had to go home and take care of their animals and their kids or whatever But Excel has said that there’s not any – I’m going to paraphrase my understanding of it. There’s a very limited risk of fire from these transmission lines. And then I’m seeing this week these reports that Excel is going to shut down power for people in Colorado because they’re concerned about fire for transmission lines. It’s like you can’t have it both ways, can you?
SPEAKER 05 :
I have found and I’ve experienced – In public meetings, like you just talked about, where these wind and solar and transmission line and AI developers will say whatever it takes to get the project complete. And there’s never any accountability to what they say. I’ll remind you that I spoke at a county commission meeting in Perkins County, Nebraska, not long ago. And they did not even talk about the batteries that would be needed at this solar establishment if it was constructed. And the risk in the solar is really in the fire that’s caused by these lithium battery storage systems. They do not include the whole truth, and in many cases, just outright lie. I’ve got examples of that as well. And Xcel seems to be as bad as any of them there are, to be honest. Xcel and NextEra are the two, in my experiences, that are absolutely the worst.
SPEAKER 12 :
As you know, I bring these issues up on a regular basis. And Excel is trying to push everybody to these smart meters where there’s communication from the meter to Excel. I’ve resisted that. But somehow they came out, and I now have a non-commutative system. meter on my house. I don’t know quite when they did that. But what that means is they send out a meter reader to read. And so it’s taking all the data. It knows when I get up, turning on lights. It knows all that. But that’s not being communicated to Excel You know, in real time, they have to send out the meter reader to, or this is what they say, to get all that information, all that data about me that they then will input. And who knows why that, well, they say they’re going to use it because of, this is the other thing, they charge different rates for different times for power. And so they’re not providing reliable, efficient, and affordable abundant power for everyday people. It’s an ideological control thing that’s happening. But anyway, I talk about this on a regular basis. I kid you not, Trent Luce, within six weeks maybe, I had three different knocks on the door from Excel contractors saying, we’re here to put your smart meter in. I said, what? I said, I don’t want a smart meter. He said, well, it says right here that you called in for it. I said, I did not. And the last time the young guy that came in, I got very frustrated with him. And it takes a lot to get me to a point where I’m very frustrated. And I said that this was, I used the words. I said, this is nuts. I didn’t quite use that word. But he understood. And I said, I’m sorry, I’m not. Really speaking, I’m really frustrated about this. So anyway, I just find it interesting that they’re trying to get people onto these smart meters. And then I wonder if on a day when they’re ramping everybody up and saying, we’re going to turn your power off, if they might be able to select different people to turn their power off because they have a smart meter. Now, is that tin hat or what do you think?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, I don’t think that’s tin hat at all, and that’s exactly where we’re headed. But I’m pretty convinced they could turn you off without a smart meter.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, that’s probably true. I think that’s probably true. But I’m trying to resist. I’m trying to resist that. I didn’t realize that we’re already at time for break, Trent Luce. So we’re going to go to break.
SPEAKER 05 :
That Frank Beard conversation got to us. We just lost track of time.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, we did. And yes, I did not realize that about ZZ Top. So you never know where the conversation is going to go with Trent Luce. We have these interesting conversations because of our sponsors. And I’m so pleased to have the Second Syndicate as a sponsor. Alicia Garcia and Teddy Collins with Spartan Defense, which is a firearm store in Colorado Springs that carries… You know, the wide range of firearms, things that you may not be able to find anyplace else in Colorado, but they’re coming together because they know that we have a legislature, this next legislative session that will once again be doing just cut after cut on our right to keep and bear firearms to protect ourselves against bad actors.
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SPEAKER 12 :
And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And when I was out in Kiowa coming back last Tuesday night, I stopped at Little Richie’s in Parker and got one of those great calzones, got a couple of meals out of it. And they have locations in Parker and in Golden and great pasta. And again, I think the best calzone I’ve ever had. I used to travel back to New York on a regular basis. So check out Little Richie’s in Parker and in Golden. We are talking with Trent Luce. He is a sixth-generation rancher from Nebraska, shedding light on the issues that the people that feed and fuel us are facing on a regular basis. And Trent, you texted me with some good news yesterday, something you were excited about. So tell us about that.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, I’m so critical of everything the federal government has been doing lately. This is something that I personally have been rooting for and working on for coming on 25 years. But at this moment, I’m not aware that Donald Trump has signed it. But the House and the Senate passed Senate Bill 222, which is called the Whole Milk Act. And it is making available milk. let me restate this, it is not restricting schools from serving whole milk or 2% milk. You can basically, the school can decide they can serve whatever milk they want. And in addition to that, if a school, and we’re talking about school lunch programs, if a school is part of the USDA reimbursement system, then they cannot provide more than 10% of the calories that they provide to a student in any individual meal to be from fat. All milk is to be excluded from that fat connotation. I personally am so vested in this because particularly the whole milk fat is so beneficial to students and young people for their brain. It’s not just young people, but we’re talking about creating an environment of learning And so as Kansas Senator Roger Marshall sponsored this and championed this, it really did my heart good to see that the House and the Senate overwhelmingly passed this. We tried it, I think it was four years ago, maybe two years ago, and we lost by one vote in the Senate. But as that is signed, schools then will have the option to make whole milk available to students, which has not been the case for more than 30 years.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, so what happened 30 years ago, and what kind of milk has been served to kids?
SPEAKER 05 :
Low fat, so below 2%. Nothing, you could not even serve 2%, and it all stems from the dietary guidelines. Every five years, the Health and Human Services provides 50% of a panel of along with the USDA, providing 50%. It’s a group that designs what the dietary guidelines are going to be, particularly for institutions. And I want to include that this particular bill is just about whole milk in schools. You have the same restrictions at the military. I learned this at Fort Carson. I met out at Fort Carson, and word being told that the military cannot serve whole milk to these soldiers who are fighting for our freedoms. I’m like, you’ve got to be kidding me. But it all stems back to the mid-’90s when we started putting together these dietary guidelines, and that’s what we end up with. But we have champions on the school lunch side, so at least we have – now, there’s two things, Kim. This is a great opportunity, but the schools need to say, okay, we’re going to make that available. It’s not automatic. It didn’t say you must. It said the school can’t.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, and I’m glad it doesn’t say you must. You know, I don’t like, because must is a force word.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, no. I didn’t say that you must drink it. I said the school must make it available.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, okay. That’s not a force issue. You know what? You’re right. Thank you for that clarification. Because I do use the word must as well in encouraging. I use that word a lot. Okay. Thank you for that clarification. What was happening? So 30 years ago, was this the whole cholesterol thing that they’re trying to watch? Absolutely. Is that where that low-fat thing came?
SPEAKER 05 :
It started in 77 with a guy named Ansel Keys from the University of Minnesota. And Ansel Keys was a lifelong vegan. And he’s the one that changed us from butter to margarine. He’s the one that moved us over to oil seeds, which are now being demonized as well. But that started to take effect. And for anybody that wants to see the timeline on this, Nina Teicholz wrote the book, The Big Fat Surprise, which is absolutely, I’ll use the term, the Bible for how this transformation has taken place. But we’re coming back so hard and fast. I mean, butter is more popular than it’s been, I think, any time in my lifetime, because that transition started in about mid-70s. I was born in 66. And today… Butter is the thing. And now we’re understanding. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You mean we’ve been tying up cholesterol? Cholesterol is actually beneficial for heart health. And cholesterol’s purpose is to keep the arteries clean. And we’ve been giving people statins to tie up cholesterol. That’s a big mistake. Now that data is all starting to come together. And we have a whole generation that was lied to about proper health as it involves diet.
SPEAKER 12 :
Fortunately, I didn’t listen to most all that. I drink coffee every day, and there were studies that said you shouldn’t drink coffee. Now they’re saying coffee’s good for you. And I’ve used butter all these years. I just made those cookies the other day that included lard. And I was talking with a young person about it, and they said all these things that they used to say were bad were wrong. are actually good for you. And, of course, you’ve been talking about that for a long time, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and Lard, the one I like to talk about, is vitamin D. And I had a whole discussion this week about vitamin D, which I had not talked about for far too long. But vitamin D is so essential. It’s a precursor to so many things that we have. And I put it into context, and I share this story frequently, everybody’s got an Aunt Gladys. And Aunt Gladys, born in 1915 to 1925, they were so poor that lard was one of their staples in life. And they took lard sandwiches to school. Mothers were baking in lard. And think about how healthy that generation lived to be. In fact, we call them the greatest generation. The kids who grew up that way Vitamin D is essential for heart health, for immune health, and for brain health. And lard happens to be the second largest available food substance with vitamin D behind cod liver oil. So just think about these things that we just have been buried. The facts have been buried, and it’s time for them to come back front and center. Vitamin D is essential for human health, period. And it’s better sourced.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, sun obviously is a contributing factor, but animal products are where you need to source your vitamin D. So, Trent, I heard a story very close to me recently whose friend’s daughter had been a vegan for a number of years. And many of these young, well-educated women are vegans. And she was having some significant pain with her muscles. And they were running all kinds of studies and they were concerned about all kinds of terrible things. And ultimately they found out that she was, I guess it was iron that she was deficient of, but that she also needed vitamin D. And you mentioned the year 1977. And wasn’t that when all the basis was starting to happen? Well, the climate change, or at that time it was global warming. There was a lot happening in 1977. Was that that big meeting down in Rio de Janeiro? No, that was 92.
SPEAKER 05 :
Actually, you’re almost right. 77, if you want to look at the cover of Time magazine and all the major press of the 70s and early 80s, it was global cooling. We’re going to freeze to death. And then we transferred in the late 80s and rolled into Rio de Janeiro in 1992 with the United Nations in their first ever climate change global warming summit. So that’s about the time that changed. But What happened five years prior to 1977? You had the creation of EPA. The Nixon administration created so things, Endangered Species Act, so many things that changed the overall dynamics. And you had the government getting more involved in dietary guidelines at that point. Although I always find it interesting, the very first USDA dietary guideline came out in the 1880s because they said that farmers working in the fields were not getting enough nutrition, and they wanted to make sure they understood how much nutrition they actually needed to overcome the very extraneous lifestyle that they had. And in today’s world, they say that the role of the federal government and the USDA dietary guidelines are to minimize the obesity problem that we have. That is the testament to really agriculture making so much food so readily available that we now have a problem with obesity. But to be honest, Kim, the problem with obesity is that so many people who are obese are nutritionally deficient. And we have a daughter that’s a registered dietitian that deals with that every single day.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I remember you saying that when she’s talking with people about obesity, they say, is there a pharmaceutical, is there a drug that I can take for this?
SPEAKER 05 :
Just give me a pill. Just give me the pill I can take.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, and I think I’ve shared that one of the grandfathers said the best exercise, and exercise moving is so important, but the best exercise that we can do, and this was many years ago, is to push yourself away from the table. And I thought that’s pretty wise as well. We’re going to continue the discussion. The text line is busy, 720-605-0647. That’s 720-605-0647. And we are talking with Trent Luce, but as we’re coming in on the end of the year, be sure and make a tax-deductible contribution to these great… nonprofits. One is the USMC Memorial Foundation, and neither of these receive government money. They live on the money the way it’s supposed to, and that is from hardworking people and their contributions. And so make a contribution to the USMC Memorial Foundation. It’s a way to say thank you. to those that have put on the uniform and given their lives, have been willing to give their lives for liberty. And then the Center for American Values in Pueblo is nonpolitical, nonpartisan, but focused on foundational principles, moving those forward through educational programs for our kids of honor, integrity, and patriotism, and then also telling the stories of our Medal of Honor recipients. And that website is AmericanValueCenter.org, AmericanValueCenter.org. And we will be right back with Trent Luce.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And as we’re coming into the end of the year, looking into next year, really think about your own financial freedom. And the people that can help you with that is Jody Henze with Mint Financial Strategies. She can come up with a plan to get you to a point where you have your own financial confidence and clarity, and that is so, so important. So think about it. Give her a call, 303-285-3080, 303-285-3080, as you are preparing for 2026. I’m talking with Trent Luce. Oh, and before I do that, I also want to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It’s reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant power. from naturally occurring hydrocarbons such as natural gas and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate. And if you are having any challenges with your personal climate to be warm in the winter, reach out to Ben’s Plumbing, Heating, and Cooling. All of my sponsor’s information is on my website. So Trent Luce, during the break… producer Joe’s 27 years old, but he’s a very wise 27-year-old, and he said, Kim, you’re on to something here. Jimmy Carter was inaugurated in 1977, and he started a whole bunch of these very bad policies, as Joe said, a lot of the buzzwords out there, and I’d forgotten that that’s kind of where all of this really started with many of his policies, Trent.
SPEAKER 05 :
And a lot of people talk about education when they mention Jimmy Carter because Jimmy Carter did not create the Department of Education, but he elevated it to a cabinet position. And one can make the argument that that really began to destroy the education our kids get. So, yeah, I can’t argue with anything that Joe brought up.
SPEAKER 12 :
And the fact that our kids, we’ve been dumbing them down since the Department of Education was created, where we now have in Colorado that kids are not proficient in reading and writing and arithmetic at grade level. But we spend an awful lot of money on that. Gammy had texted me and said to ask you about what you talked about on your show, because you have… a show before you talked to me on Wednesday mornings. So she said it was a pretty interesting show. So what’d you talk about?
SPEAKER 05 :
Gammie is going to have to clarify. I do three shows before this moment. I’m going to assume Gammie was talking about the bead funding. And I was just trying to look up here to see what, Colorado got in terms of BEAD funding. Are you familiar with BEAD funding, Kim?
SPEAKER 12 :
No. How do you spell it?
SPEAKER 05 :
B-E-A-D. And it stands for Broadband Equity Access and Deployment. Okay. I mean, you have heard, everybody’s heard all these campaign promises about, we’re going to expand rural broadband. Rural broadband’s a problem. We need to expand it. Well, in 2022… Congress authorized $42.5 billion for what they’re calling bead funding. The state of Nebraska got $400 million. Oh, that just hit me. I remember Colorado got $450 million. Nebraska got $405 million. Texas got $2.2 billion for rural broadband. California got $1.9 billion. Louisiana got $1.9 billion. And so their message has always been, we’ve got to get rural broadband. We need people in rural, remote areas to really be able to excel and get on the Internet. Wyoming got $350 million. What’s the population of Wyoming? About 400,000 people. Do the math on that. That doesn’t make any sense. And so It really came to my mind this week, or last week actually, because as I mentioned, Nebraska got $405 million in BEAD funding from the Department of Telecommunications. We don’t have a Department of Telecommunications, but that’s where it came from. And our governor said we’re only going to spend 10% of that $405 million. And instead of saying we’re going to give it back, which I don’t know what would happen then, He decided we’re going to use the surplus, the extra that wasn’t spent on other programs. Well, that caused a letter from the five congressional delegates in D.C. to our governor to say, no, you have to spend all of that money. And something clicked and turned to mind. He said, if the congressional delegation is demanding the governor spend all that money, what’s really behind this? I’ll cut to the chase. Long story short. I figured out the states that got the most money, and no state got less than $100 million, by the way. Alaska got $1.8 billion, with a B. The states that have the highest development of artificial intelligence centers, data centers, got the biggest chunk of money. Take Alaska out of the mix. All the other states in the top five are leading states in terms of AI data center construction. And so this is just a front to lay the groundwork, have taxpayers pay the money for these fiber optics and cables to be put in the ground so that they’re there and waiting for for the AI center once it’s constructed. And why Wyoming? Don’t forget, Wyoming just approved two massive AI data centers, and those two data centers combined use 12 times the amount of electricity the entire state of Wyoming currently uses. So the bead funding ruse is 100% about laying a groundwork that these AI data centers can tap into once they’re constructed.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, so walk me through this. BEAD funding, Broadband Equity Access and Deployment, is a federal initiative that allocates $42.5 billion. Yeah, now this is AI that’s telling me this. Yeah, I know. And I don’t really, so I’ll go down from that, but that’s what came up first. So how was this money, and we’re just about out of time, how was this money allocated? It’s a program, was it an act? How did this happen in June of 2023?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it was part of an act.
SPEAKER 12 :
Correct. In June of 2023.
SPEAKER 05 :
The bill was presented in 21. They actually signed, sealed, and delivered it in 23. But another interesting component of this, and I know we’re short on time, it was to be that 64% of the communication would be fiber, 29% would be satellite. 4% wireless, and 3% HFC. And two satellite companies have received a billion dollars combined between the two. I’ll let you guess who owns them.
SPEAKER 12 :
Elon Musk.
SPEAKER 05 :
And Jeff Bezos with Amazon. The Amazon, Leo, and Starlink have received a billion dollar contract as a result of this.
SPEAKER 12 :
So this is bringing up one of the things that got me going. And this was when I was on city council 2012 to 2016 during the Obama years. There was a broadband company that was doing rural broadband back there. And I’m going to have to go. It was Eagle something communications. And I was connecting the dots back then. And again, government money. And I think that company went belly up. But they got a whole bunch of money. This is a problem, Trent Luce. This is a big problem. So we’ve got just about 30 seconds left. Your final thought.
SPEAKER 05 :
It was December 16th, 1773, that the tea was thrown into Boston Harbor. Because the taxes were too high, the crown wanted 3%. And we American citizens today, accounting sales tax, income tax, all these other property tax, I would say we average about 50% of our revenue goes to the federal government. Maybe we need a new Boston Tea Party.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, and with that, so Trent Luce, we’re going to prerecord for next week. I think we’re going to do that tomorrow. So we’ll talk with you in the new year. Actually, we’ll talk on New Year’s Eve probably. But I wish you and yours a very Merry Christmas, and we must continue to reclaim this wonderful American idea. So thank you, Merry Christmas, and we’ll talk live here in a couple of weeks.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, thank you, Kim, one bite at a time.
SPEAKER 12 :
One bite at a time. And Albert Einstein said this. He said, the world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything. So today, be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals. And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
SPEAKER 06 :
And I don’t want no one to cry. But tell them if I don’t.
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