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Join John Rush as he delves into the shifting tides of domestic energy policy in 2025, exploring how the United States has transitioned from energy defense to energy offense. In an insightful interview with Scott, we learn about the significant offshore leases in the Gulf of Mexico and how they are poised to transform the energy landscape, lower prices, and power the economy forward. This episode takes a deep dive into how American energy workers are thriving amidst these changes and what it means for the average consumer.
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All right, hour number two. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes, and all right, we have got Scott and Gell joining us now. Scott, welcome back.
SPEAKER 18 :
How are you today, sir? I’m great, John. It’s good to hear your voice, and it’s great to talk to Denver. And how about them Broncos, baby?
SPEAKER 19 :
Hey, how about them? We’re on a roll. We’ll see how things go here in the playoffs.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. I remember the first time I interviewed you, I was so proud and could talk about your new coach there, Sean Payton, who had come from the New Orleans Saints. And I said, give him a couple of years. Y’all going to be in a row. So here we are.
SPEAKER 19 :
Here we are. No, good job. I appreciate that. USA Energy workers, Scott, I booked you even long before the Venezuela thing happened over the weekend. So we’ll get to that in a moment. But talk to us about some of the offshore leases and things that are happening in the Gulf that are going to help us out as well.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, look, I think no doubt 2025 was a year of a seismic shift in domestic energy policy, and we pivoted from energy defense to energy offense. And we witnessed the results of that pivot, I think, in the form of lower energy prices, reduced inflation, and lowered interest rates here in the last year. I think when you take a look at what’s happening on energy policy, domestic energy policy, we’re very proud of the contributions of the Gulf of America. About one in every six barrels produced in America comes from the Gulf of America. Big lease sale, real big lease sale happened about a month ago down in New Orleans. It had been several years since our nation had a lease sale because of some of the actions of the previous administration. Congress this year passed the one big, beautiful bill and it mandated a lease sale. And sure enough, we had that lease sale. And again, we had, you know, approximately. 181 blocks that receive high bids, 30 different companies submitting a total of 219 bids. That’s good news for every zip code in America because at the end of the day, we all know that from 1973 to 2019, John, we’ve had six recessions in this country. They’ve all been preceded by spikes in energy prices. Best way to get our economy rocking and rolling is to lower energy prices.
SPEAKER 19 :
All right. So all of that being a huge plus, which I fully agree with now with everything that happened in Venezuela, which doesn’t mean I guess it’s a question for you. We’ll have energy companies from the U.S. going there. Does that still help energy workers here in the country when it’s all said and done?
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, look, I think the script of what’s going to happen in Venezuela is not written in concrete. Personally, I believe that we’re going to continue to focus on domestic energy production here in this country. I doubt very seriously if we’re going to see production numbers coming from Venezuela and those barrels coming to America anytime soon, if at all. We believe that this administration will fully understands the value of our USA Energy workers. Kind of go back, John, I believe, you know, until maybe the early 70s where we were over-dependent on foreign production and we saw what happened with the Arab oil embargo. We learned our lesson. This administration, I think, knows history. We’re not going back to looking at foreign sources. of oil as primary. We don’t focus on USA Energy workers, whether it’s in Colorado, California, Alaska, Oklahoma, North Dakota, Louisiana, fill in the blanks, on and on, Ohio, Pennsylvania.
SPEAKER 17 :
I totally agree with that, except what about the heavy crude? Yeah, the heavy sour crude, which we have refineries specifically designed to be able to process that. That’s right now coming much from Canada because we haven’t been getting it much from Venezuela. Wouldn’t we be able to switch some of that, get more from Venezuela versus less from Canada?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, look, I think that’s a good point. So I think at the end, you know, it’s going to be a zero-sum game. Yeah. As far as production and all that goes, yes. Oh, yeah, the same amount. I’m just saying where it comes from.
SPEAKER 19 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. We may substitute Venezuelan production for Canadian production. Maybe Canada is the big loser here.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, and the other thing on the energy workers on our side, though, Scott, and this is where I guess I’m just curious, with energy companies from America having to go to Venezuela and get things ramped back up because we know their infrastructure is dismal at best, Does not building that infrastructure, because a lot of that will start here in our country, doesn’t that still help out our energy workers when it’s all said and done as well?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I think, look, there’s no doubt that when you have American energy companies deploying capital to build energy infrastructure, the workers end up enjoying some of that significant payroll. No doubt. Look, at the end of the day, when we are exporting American expertise, we win, whether it’s in the farming community, in technology, medical, or energy. So nobody’s concerned. USA Energy workers are not concerned. about what’s going on in Venezuela.
SPEAKER 19 :
I guess the way I look at it, Scott, is I think that’s a boom to most of them because reality is, to your point, it’s not going to take anything away from what they’re doing. If anything, even the building of valves and heads and piping and so on, I mean, at the end of the day, that’s got to be a boom to them and help out.
SPEAKER 11 :
And at the end, you know, one of the biggest things somebody was just sharing with me, you all know the flavor of the Cajun food here. Yes. Somebody said get ready because there’s going to be more Cajun food going with all the gas workers in Venezuela than there is in Midland, Texas right now.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, I can imagine that one. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 18 :
Everybody wins.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, yeah, I mean, because, Scott, what it is is simply workers that are moved down there. You’re going to have Chevron, who’s already there, and probably a couple other companies who are going to go there, rebuild a lot of the infrastructure in Venezuela. I agree with you. It doesn’t really affect American oil production because ours is a totally different kind of crude anyway. Correct. When workers have to be sent down there to do some of that… And money comes back here. Well, money comes back here, but it also opens up a lot of spots here.
SPEAKER 18 :
True. Good point.
SPEAKER 11 :
Again, we believe in energy, all forms of energy. everywhere. When USA Energy workers, when American energy workers are doing it, that’s a big plus. And of course, it’s a great opportunity. And so none of us have any concern about that. We do look forward to lending our expertise, our knowledge. Again, why? Because one of the facts that I continue to share with folks is that There are no wealthy, low energy consuming nations on the planet. I think I think we need to unpack that for a little while. There are no wealthy, low energy consuming nations on the planet. In a lot of ways, energy consumption has become a proxy for human prosperity. So we’ve got to have affordable energy to have that prosperity, get more of it in different places. Not a bad thing, as long as we put American workers to work.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, Scott, quick question here, because Russia was supposed to be very involved in Venezuela. They, of course, do oil. How come the other countries that were partnering with Venezuela did nothing to properly manage the wells, to properly manage their oil output, and also to properly manage their technology?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, look, I don’t know how you properly manage a third world regime that’s more interested in lining their pockets with the drugs and the corruption is unbelievable there. So it’s
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, really quick, though, Scott, is some of that also, though, because, you know, and I said a moment ago, not really tongue in cheek. I meant what I said. We’re the best at what we do far better than even other foreign countries are. In fact, if it wasn’t for us, the Middle East probably wouldn’t be doing what it’s doing at the end of the day. The reality is we have the best known technology and know how to do things better than anyone else, including the likes of Russia. Correct.
SPEAKER 11 :
No doubt, and the red, white, and blue does it best. We’ve exported much of that technology and that workforce to other parts of the globe. They have been big winners as well as a result. Yeah, so Venezuela has its own challenges from its corruption, but we feel very strongly that American production and the places in the zip codes, again, in your state, in California or Oklahoma or Texas, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Louisiana are going to rock and roll in 2026. We see an amazing shift from a government that had an all-of-government war on domestic energy to all-of-government support on domestic energy. We call that the great energy pivot of 2025. And it’s coming to zip codes near everyone in the form of reduced energy prices. That’s a good thing for our economy. Look for 2026 to be super strong with the deployment of energy capital.
SPEAKER 17 :
Hey, Scott, sorry to keep you from one more question, but I got to ask. Okay, you guys in the bayou are pretty smart with oil and gas. Well, guess what? They’re not smart in California. They just lost another refinery. They’re going to lose another one in April. What happens in California?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, you know, look, different states, you know, look at, you know, manage their own affairs accordingly. But at the end, look, we in America, we are married to our climate-controlled homes. We’re married to our automobiles. At a certain point in time, the electorate is not going to stand for $6 and $7 gas. There’ll be, you know, challenges with that. We believe that There are three E’s that need to be properly managed, the E of energy, the E of environment, and the E of economy. And it appears that those three E’s, if not properly balanced, you know what happens with a three-legged bar stool, right? When one gets cut a little short, we know what happens. Right. So, you know, they’re going to go through their challenges and the electorate will will will wake up to that. And and they have the right. I mean, California as a sovereign state has the right not on not on the offshore stuff, but on the onshore stuff. They have the right to decide what it is that they want. And there’ll be consequences for those decisions. The offshore stuff in California is a different story because that belongs to all of us. Those are federal national assets. It belongs to all of us. And we need to get those produced.
SPEAKER 19 :
Scott, as always, appreciate you joining us. How do folks find you?
SPEAKER 11 :
You can see us at USAEnergyWorkers.com. Real good opportunity to sign a petition, nonpolitical, to celebrate and elevate our USA Energy Workers. Again, John, we believe that, you know, the old cliche that if you can read, thank a teacher. We like that.
SPEAKER 18 :
If you can read at night in your warm or cool home, thank a teacher and a USA Energy Worker. Scott, appreciate you, man. Have a good one. Thank you so much.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive, this is John Rush.
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Okay, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate. Charlie Grimes, of course, our engineer. Bob, go ahead, sir. You’re up next.
SPEAKER 07 :
I’d say I was interested because your last guest was from, I guess, Louisiana, right?
SPEAKER 19 :
Originally from there, yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. I have a, I can interject a little bit here. I have a relative that’s in the oil business in Lake Charles, Louisiana.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
They used to bring in all that heavy, sour oil from Venezuela, and they refined it into jet fuel. Oh, that’s useful. You can use that for a lot of things. I spent my career with AT&T, and most of my career was in standby power for our buildings when the power went out.
SPEAKER 01 :
We had…
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, back in the old days, we had turbines, which was virtually a jet engine to run a generator to keep our buildings going. And then later on, we had diesel generators that would use that refined product from the sour, heavy oil. And you know what they refined it into? And, John, you’ll know this. It’s virtually kerosene.
SPEAKER 03 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 07 :
Lots and lots of stuff that uses that. So if we can bring that up, because they don’t know how to do anything with it down in Venezuela, but we know how to do stuff, and there is a lot of jet fuel consumed in this country.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, I think my wife uses it on her commute.
SPEAKER 19 :
There we go.
SPEAKER 07 :
What’s that now?
SPEAKER 17 :
You said there’s a lot of jet fuel. I said, yeah, I think my wife uses it on her commute.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
She moves along. I’ll just say that. She moves along. Hey, Bob, I’ll tell you one thing they know how to do in Venezuela. They know how to spend money, and they’re about to have a lot more of it.
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s going to be a while.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, it’ll be a while, but it’s going to happen. I mean, we’re going to see investment go down there. I would not be surprised if Trump and the oil companies get together and move rather quickly. Why? Because they are in transition right now down there and they need political wins. And so they need to have good things happen out on the streets quickly down there. And I think that they will try to force that in terms of infrastructure.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, believe me, it’s not a light switch. No, it is not.
SPEAKER 19 :
No, but as far as getting, in this case, quote-unquote, Bob Boots on the ground and starting with that end of things and going in and even analyzing what’s there now, I mean, here’s the other thing, too. They won’t have, as you know, and you’ll understand this full well, they won’t have the same regulatory BS that has to happen in this country to get stuff done.
SPEAKER 07 :
But here’s the difficulty. Venezuela’s a lot like Cuba. In 1959, all the European and U.S. Canadian people that invested in Cuba, overnight their business were taken away. Venezuela did the same thing with the oil business. Now, you’re in the oil business, John, and you’ve got John Rush’s oil company, you’re going to be a little skeptical of going down there and putting your money in there knowing that tomorrow maybe they’ll just say, we’re taking it.
SPEAKER 19 :
But that was the whole point of what happened over the weekend, Bob. So, yeah, no, that fear for them should be gone right now.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, but they’re going to be a little skeptical.
SPEAKER 19 :
No, keep in mind, Trump’s been meeting with these guys even long before what happened in Venezuela. I was reading this morning that, you know, several weeks ago, he basically told those guys, gear up. Things are going to be happening. This is what we’re going to be doing. And here’s what we need your help with. So he’s already had those conversations.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, I mean, look, if Venezuelan leadership doesn’t go our way and create a stable environment for oil companies to develop, then Trump is going to go in and remove more people.
SPEAKER 07 :
Give an example, ExxonMobil, which is the biggest oil company. Chevron’s already been down there, but ExxonMobil, they’re not dipping their toe into the water, and thus they know it’s stable. They lost out last time.
SPEAKER 19 :
Sure. No doubt. And what I’m saying is that’s the whole point of what’s going on right now.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, you know, you can’t trust these people that have lived under socialism for all that year. Yeah, they’re happy now. Oh, yeah, the bad guy’s gone. And they ain’t going to turn a switch, and everything’s going to be happy and fine. These American companies, they’re not putting their money in there unless they know it’s stable.
SPEAKER 19 :
It will be.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, but not tomorrow.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, don’t count yourself out on that one, Bob. Yeah, I think it will be. I mean, what’s happening right now with this particular administration, in fact, there was a big article I read this morning on the actual winner of the election down there and the fact that even though she won the Nobel Peace Prize, dedicated it to Trump, very nice lady, the reality is Donald Trump doesn’t feel like she’s got the clout to actually run the country. So at the end of the day, they’re going to have to find someone different to run the country. Because she’s not it.
SPEAKER 17 :
And right now it’s the vice president. Look, Bob, I agree they’re going to have setbacks. Of course they’re going to have setbacks. You’re talking about a completely corrupt country. It’s not going to suddenly become the Vatican. Okay, but for crying out loud, I do believe that Donald Trump is not going to accept anything but pretty fast progress. Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, she’s not up to scratch to run the country.
SPEAKER 19 :
No.
SPEAKER 07 :
In that country right now. But she could play a role. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Who is?
SPEAKER 19 :
I don’t know. I don’t have that answer. That’s where Rubio and the State Department comes into play to figure that out. That’s what they’re there for.
SPEAKER 17 :
And John just said the magic word, Rubio. We’re not going there to run it. Oh, no, no, no. We don’t have to run it, but I mean— We’ll find the people to run it is my point, Bob. Right, but we’re going to seriously advise, okay? I think Rubio is going to be very much involved down there. We’ve got to keep in mind the guy is brilliant.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, and by the way, the other part of this equation that I think everybody’s looking at is Cuba’s next.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, Cuba runs their entire country on the same fuel that I was talking about, the kerosene-type fuel. They run their entire electric grid in Cuba on generators that run on that refined, sour, heavy crude.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, in other words, they run on Venezuela.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, right.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, that’s about to change.
SPEAKER 07 :
Unless they play ball. Have you ever been to Cuba?
SPEAKER 19 :
Nope. Nope.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it’s a paradise. Oh, yeah. Run properly. The whole place is a beach.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know how many luxury hotels and condos and stuff could be down there?
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, it could be another Aruba.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. And if you want a nice 56 Chevy.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, yeah, they’re all down there with Peugeot engines.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 19 :
I’m going to let you go. All right, man. Appreciate you, Bob. Thank you. And, yeah, I mean, honestly, I wasn’t tongue-in-cheek on what I meant a moment ago. Believe me, Cuba is next because Venezuela had a lot of influence upon Cuba. In fact, that’s who was actually protecting Maduro when it was all said and done.
SPEAKER 17 :
Of course.
SPEAKER 19 :
So the reality is, yeah, Cuba’s in trouble.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, and by the way, I think that the reason I think Donald Trump is going to make sure that there is a transition to better, obviously not a paradise, but better power in Venezuela is because of Canada. Okay, Canada and Venezuela produce the same kind of oil. There’s only one other place in the world that does, and that’s Russia. And so… With our refineries along the coast, several of them process that kind of oil. We have to get it somewhere. Right now we’re getting over 60% of it from Canada. We would love to look at Canada and say, hey, now we can get it from Venezuela. That’s going to give us incredible leverage in our upcoming discussions with Canada because our USMCA agreement is about to expire. Okay, so this all happens. There’s a reason that Trump acted at this time, and I think it affects Canada.
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SPEAKER 17 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLC 560. John, this whole taking of the Venezuelan leader, look, we’re looking at a turnover in leadership in Venezuela.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 17 :
It is going to be from a very anti, completely anti-American leadership to a pro-American leadership. That is going to happen. Otherwise, we’re going in again.
SPEAKER 19 :
Right.
SPEAKER 17 :
I believe that.
SPEAKER 19 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 17 :
So here’s my question. How does that reset the map for Canada and China? And maybe Iran. And Russia, too.
SPEAKER 19 :
I mean, all three. Not in the same way. Russia and China, it’ll affect mainly because of the oil side’s offense. I mean, I think China gets about 5% to 7% of their product from there, and that’s ending.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, first, let’s just talk oil-wise. That’s a good way to approach it because then I want to look at the foreign policy. But, okay, so they were getting about that much oil. Now, that doesn’t mean we’re going to shut it off from them. We’re willing to deal, but does it change our leverage in trade discussions with China and Canada?
SPEAKER 19 :
Absolutely it does because, you know, in a lot of ways, we are now more in control of that than what it has been in the past.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. I mean, Canada was about to walk into the new discussions on the trade agreement that we have with them in Mexico with quite a bit of leverage. Isn’t that gone?
SPEAKER 19 :
Yes, I believe it is.
SPEAKER 17 :
I mean, Canada right now, and we have to keep in mind, a lot of people don’t know this. Canada, they are hemorrhaging jobs up there, folks. They are in bad shape. They have sawmills closing down. They have a lot of things closing down. People are getting very angry about at Mark Carney, okay? And it’s becoming a real problem up in Canada. So if they lose that leverage, they’ve got to cut a deal with us, and it might benefit us quite a bit. And if we get a beneficial deal with Canada, oh, my goodness. I mean, that would be amazing, right?
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, agree.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, now with China, I’m not quite as sure with China because I don’t think they were that dependent on Venezuelan oil. I think they go more to the Middle East and to Russia, right?
SPEAKER 19 :
And they try to do the black market as well.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, sure.
SPEAKER 19 :
But it still affects them. So Venezuelan exports, 80% goes to China right now, currently.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. All right. Let’s set oil aside. What about the simple fact that Venezuela had become, really, for China and Russia, what Israel is for us in the Middle East? Basically, one big military base.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
I mean, they were able to have… Their foothold here in the Western Hemisphere. And those two countries had it. And to a lesser degree, Iran. They all had their foothold here in the Western Hemisphere in oil-rich, gold-rich Venezuela. That is all gone now. It is gone. How does that affect them?
SPEAKER 19 :
Well. It’ll be interesting because China – I was just reading some articles on this last night and even today where China has huge investment in Venezuela. So I’m sure they were not happy about this going down at all because basically that means much like some of our companies lost billions of dollars when things changed. Well, China is likely to have the same thing happen.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, I mean, when Bob was talking in the last segment about how it affected, who was it, Exxon? ExxonMobil. How it affected them right when the oil production down there got seized by the government and all their investment went belly up down there in Venezuela. Okay, well, guess what? All that investment for China and Russia in Venezuela just went belly up.
SPEAKER 19 :
Right, right.
SPEAKER 17 :
I mean, that is literally what just happened to them.
SPEAKER 19 :
And I’m reading through here, there’s some significant investment from some Chinese companies, from China, I guess you could say, because it’s never the companies, it’s always China, because we know how that works. And again, keep in mind, too, that Venezuela has been used. They probably don’t even know they were being used, but they’ve been used by the likes of, again, China, Russia, Cuba. I mean, really, they’ve been a pawn in that area, if you would, Andy, and that pawn’s now taken off the chessboard.
SPEAKER 17 :
It’s taken off the board and it affects another one because the other foothold that those countries, at least traditionally, have had is Cuba.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 17 :
Which is totally dependent on what? Venezuelan oil. Right. Which is now beholden to us. I mean, so you’re talking about two major footholds in the Western Hemisphere for the worst actors in the world on the other side of the world.
SPEAKER 19 :
Right. And this is where, you know, and I love, you know, Megyn Kelly. At one time, I didn’t like her a whole lot because she was so anti-Trump. And then she really kind of came around and became a lot more Trump friendly. Although right now, I will just say it straight up. I like Megyn, although I think Megyn, unfortunately. True. Candace. No, Megan, it’s not even close to that. I mean, again, in my opinion now, you’re getting too close to Tucker and Candace and getting your mind warped on some of that stuff. And it would behoove her to back away from those two especially.
SPEAKER 17 :
Look, we have to keep in mind the best foreign policy is always this. whatever Tucker doesn’t want. So the hit on Iran was spectacular foreign policy, which is paying off incredible dividends. Absolutely incredible. Iran is about to fall, folks. They lost their ability to develop a nuclear program and threaten the world, which would have held power for the Ayatollah. He’s about to go on an endless vacation to Russia, I believe. That’s my personal opinion. I think he’s about to flee the country. They’re going to flip the government there in Iran, which is another major ally of Russia and China. They’re going to flip that.
SPEAKER 19 :
And Megan’s point is she’s making it sound like there’s going to be some sort of a ground war in Venezuela. How do you tell the voting moms that their 14 or 16-year-old kid could end up there? Blah, blah, blah. And I’m thinking to myself, man alive, you are – Megan, I love you, but you are reaching. You are going down a path that, frankly, doesn’t exist.
SPEAKER 17 :
No, and once again, we have to keep in mind that Tucker predicted that hitting Iran, hitting the nuke site, would put us in World War III.
SPEAKER 19 :
Right. Did it? No.
SPEAKER 17 :
Not even close. He was 100% wrong.
SPEAKER 19 :
No offense, Tucker’s wrong on a lot of things.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, he’s wrong all the time on his foreign policy. Why?
SPEAKER 19 :
Because the guy’s a weirdo and he believes in aliens. He’s a goofball, Andy.
SPEAKER 17 :
Sorry, he’s a goofball. Okay, that’s true. But what I mean is this. The biggest problem with this foreign policy is not that there are no good aspects to it. It’s his extremism. He’s an extreme non-interventionist.
SPEAKER 19 :
I wasn’t trying to be funny with the alien thing.
SPEAKER 17 :
No, you’re being honest.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, it goes to the credibility of… of somebody and their mindset.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, he’s a weirdo.
SPEAKER 19 :
When you allow yourself to believe in things that just frankly aren’t there, it warps your view on lots of other things. That’s why he’s so weird in all these other things he believes in, Andy.
SPEAKER 17 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 19 :
He’s a goofball.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, that’s why he believed that Israel was committing genocide in Gaza. Right. Guy’s a dork. When anybody could take a look at Gaza and say, wait a minute, Israel is achieving the lowest, the best civilian to combatant kill rate of any urban war ever.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right.
SPEAKER 17 :
OK, obviously, this is not a genocide. Obviously, they are doing the right thing. But, of course, Tucker doesn’t like Israel. He doesn’t like Jews. So he didn’t want them to do anything effective to defend themselves. Moving past Tucker. The simple fact is a lot of these people are not understanding the Trump doctrine. It is no sustained long wars. What is Megan saying she’s worried about? A sustained long war. When has Trump started a sustained long war?
SPEAKER 19 :
It was four hours, Andy.
SPEAKER 17 :
I know. Come on, Megan, it’s four hours. Look, this is what he does.
SPEAKER 19 :
With no American casualties.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right.
SPEAKER 19 :
And like 38 Cuban ones.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. And by the way, it was the same as in Iran, just using different weapons. Right. Using a different strategy. We did use some ground forces, but it was in and out, baby. It was a hit.
SPEAKER 19 :
Four hours.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. This is the way Trump works. It doesn’t mean that you won’t have something that takes a few weeks or whatever, but you’re not going to have any of these endless wars. She worries about it. Why? Because she listens to Candace and Tucker who are wrong on everything.
SPEAKER 19 :
Everything.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
I mean, a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and again, Andy, but at the end of the day, they’re not right that often. And keep this in mind, too. And this is even true with Megan, and I say this a lot. And it’s something that I don’t have to do here. It’s why I think our program is different than, frankly, even a lot of other radio programs, podcasts, and so on across the country. I don’t answer to anybody in what we do here. I’m not out for clicks. I’m not out for views. Yes, I love the fact that you all listen, but at the end of the day, guess what? If I had to leave tomorrow and never come back on air, am I paying the bills? Yes. At the end of the day, I don’t have to be here sitting in this chair to put food on the table. Tucker does. Megan does. Candace does. My point, Andy, is they all have to have the clicks. They all have to have the views. They all have to have the sensationalism or they don’t stay there. We don’t have to have that. No, I mean, look. That’s the difference.
SPEAKER 17 :
The fact is, John, you love Israel.
SPEAKER 19 :
Very much.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. But even if you didn’t, with them, the reason they have tapped into this hatred for Israel, the biggest reason is clicks and money. Because there is an—forget America. There is an international hatred for Israel, especially amongst young generations. Anti-Semitism is on the rise big time. Well, forget how evil that is for a moment. It’s very profitable. Right. And they are getting massive.
SPEAKER 19 :
Especially for the platforms that they’re on, Andy.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. They are getting massive clicks.
SPEAKER 19 :
Keep in mind, for all of you listening, they are all pretty much independent influencers. That’s probably the best way for me to say it. That’s really what they are right now. They’re not newscasters. They are influencers. Tucker, Candace, even Megan, they are not on any kind of a national news cycle. They’re not on a TV station. They do video podcasting is what they do. They rely on you clicking on their videos and watching what they’re doing.
SPEAKER 17 :
They rely on millions of nut balls.
SPEAKER 19 :
That’s right. That’s exactly right, Andy.
SPEAKER 17 :
And guess what? There’s an ample supply right now, much larger than if you went back 20 years. If you go back 20 years, you didn’t have this incredible supply of young people who are nut balls and hate Jews. Okay, now you do, and they’re tapping into that. And by the way, Megan wants her cut of that as well. Everybody thinks that she won’t distance from Candace and Tucker because of her friendship with them. I think she has a real friendship with money. She’s friends with them, too. I know that.
SPEAKER 19 :
4 million subscribers on YouTube, which for 4 million subscribers, trust me, folks, she’s making really good money. She’s making bank. Yeah, she’s making bank with 4 million viewers on YouTube. She does a show on SiriusXM. Of course, she’s probably getting paid for that as well. But again, at the end of the day, is she worried about click and clickbait? Absolutely she is. We’ll come right back. Don’t go anywhere. Golden Eagle Financial up next. Al did a great interview of late. Listen in. We’ll be back right after that. Find Al at klzradio.com.
SPEAKER 14 :
TJ here with KLZ Radio, and I’ve got Al Smith from Golden Eagle Financial with us once again. Al, we are coming into a new year here now, and we’ve talked recently about getting a fresh look at our retirement accounts. So tell me what that means a little bit. What kind of stuff do you want folks to look at?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, a fresh look is not only looking at the past and seeing how you’re doing, but putting together what you would like it to look like in the future, not just growth, but are things on track? Some other maybe non-financial things. Are there some other things that you have concerns about as you get closer to retirement?
SPEAKER 14 :
Very cool. And what do you do for folks when they come in? And let’s say it’s a potential client that you’ve never seen before. Where do you start looking with a new account like that?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I have a pretty lengthy conversation where we dive into a timeline when they might like to retire and a few income things so we could get a handle on the amount of money they’re going to need to retire. What does that look like for you? Are you going to be traveling a lot? Are you going to be skiing? Are you going to be spending a lot of time at home? Because some people’s idea of retirement means they’re going to need $10,000, $12,000 a month. Other people, $4,000 or $5,000 is going to be very adequate depending on what kind of things they do in retirement.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s pretty great. Al Smith goes through a lot more than just numbers, folks. He’s about people and really wants to find out exactly what you want to do with your retirement. Al, how do people get in touch with you if they want to start that process?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, you can reach me at the office, 3037441128. My cell is 303-875-4572. I reply to texts. And if you’d like to hear about taxes as you get closer to retirement, there’s an event coming up January 10th at Arapahoe Community College.
SPEAKER 14 :
You got it, Al. And as always, you can reach Al from the klzradio.com website. Just go to klzradio.com slash money. Al, thanks so much for joining us today.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, you’re welcome. Thanks for having me, TJ.
SPEAKER 06 :
Listen online, klzradio.com. Back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 19 :
And we are back, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, Andy, before we go to Steve really quick, you wanted to add something we were just talking about.
SPEAKER 17 :
I’m sorry, what were we on again?
SPEAKER 19 :
As far as, you know, Venezuela and everything happening there and Tucker Carlson and Candace and all of that.
SPEAKER 17 :
All I want to add is this. The reason Tucker is wrong so often is because he doesn’t want to go with what the facts say. He wants his non-interventionist position to be right. I see. He wants intervention to fail.
SPEAKER 19 :
Gotcha.
SPEAKER 17 :
And so he tries to speak it into existence.
SPEAKER 19 :
There you go. Steve, you’re next. Go ahead. Good afternoon. How are you, gentlemen? Good, Steve.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thank you for the nice birthday wishes. I appreciate that. You’re very welcome.
SPEAKER 17 :
Happy birthday.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, thank you, and You know, on this Venezuelan thing, as soon as any stuff that’s coming out, first of all, I did not know until maybe a couple years ago, there’s a pretty big NSA operation out of Buckley. And I bought a car from a Marine colonel who was with the NSA there. They were instrumental in this thing. But a couple things we did not know, and of course, Russia really, really wants to keep Venezuela in their pocket, and China even more, because China needs the oil. But what happened on the attack, is that all the radars produced by both China and Russia didn’t work the radars because that’s also what they use for targeting their SAM, surface-to-air missiles on aircraft. So we thought they were a lot more sophisticated than they actually turned out to be. And then, you know, there’s been an active arrest warrant out now for like, what, seven years on Maduro. Right. Complete with a $50 million reward. Right. And I’m kind of curious. My understanding, there were 200… aviators and special forces taking place in this thing. Do they get that reward? Cause those guys will throw a heck of a party, you know? Good question.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, they’re going to throw a big one. Hey, Steve, let me ask you a question. Were you surprised at just how easily our guys did at taking out the Russian Chinese air defenses? I mean, wow.
SPEAKER 10 :
I read about that this morning too. I think our military was, too. And that, again, goes back to we thought that their computerized radar intercept was much better than it turned out to be.
SPEAKER 19 :
And I learned through a lot of our surveillance that we’ve been doing over the last several weeks here, Steve, and everybody listening, that because of what we used to surveil what they were doing, we probably understood what they had better than they did.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, you probably also noticed… there were 32 Cubans killed. And Cuba is absolutely dependent on Venezuelan oil, as was noted by one of your other callers. Oh, absolutely. And if anybody wants to be pro-Marxist, you’ve got to spend some time in Cuba. Because I have a friend, he and his family, his family never got out. But he and his sister, there was a charitable outfit that got the kids out in like 59, while Castro was appropriating every single business in Andean. But it’s still, I’ve been there on a few medevac flights. It really is amazing. They can’t figure out how to buy a can of paint and a paintbrush, but by golly, they’ll keep those 57 Chibis running with bailing wire. I’m not sure how they’re doing it, but they are.
SPEAKER 19 :
You’re exactly right.
SPEAKER 10 :
You got to feel badly for the people. Average wage is something like around $30.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, and they had massive just runaway hyperinflation to where it was actually to the point where money was just flowing in the streets literally because it was so worthless. You had to spend it as fast as you got it because of how fast it was deflating.
SPEAKER 17 :
How do you turn that around and make it worth something again?
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, you do that through building up of your infrastructure, getting government to stop stealing from the people, start valuing currency and trade and things that are happening inside of the country. And again, as we were talking earlier with Bob, that can’t happen overnight. But frankly, that part of it can happen relatively quickly. You can build some stability in that within probably 90 days or so.
SPEAKER 10 :
I would think so. And, you know, back to your opening comments, that really saddens me. the total dysfunction and disability of the Republican Party in this state. There are states that are doing a good job, I think of Florida, Texas, and Wyoming, and those are good models.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, really quick, though, Stephen, again, not to get off on a tangent, keep in mind, Florida especially has a completely different system structure whereby the party works under versus what we have here, meaning they don’t have the same stupid old caucus system that we have here. They do something completely different.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yep. And you see, by the way, Mondami, the newly sworn in mayor of New York. Right. He was cobbling his pants down. I mean, right after he took the oath, he said he’d been briefed by Trump’s crowd on the whole Venezuela deal. And a reporter asks, rightly so, have you gotten your federal security clearance? He says, oh, yeah. Turns out he hasn’t. No, no, he has not. Caught with his pants down, I don’t know why, in what, two or three days since he was inaugurated? This is not going to end well with this rent control, and the government’s going to take over the local grocery store bodegas. This is not going to end well.
SPEAKER 17 :
No, it’s going to be awful. The only question, Steve, is will it implode fast enough to help us in 26? And I don’t know that it will because Hochul, the governor, is trying to slow off as much of what he’s doing as possible.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, another thing that occurred to me, I was listening to our CD rep crank that I’ve known for a long time. You know, he made a really excellent point, too. Do you really want to give a briefing that may obtain some classified information to the likes of Ilhan Omar, who hates this country with a passion and wouldn’t take 50 bucks of lunch money to get her to disclose it?
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and Rubio, this is what Rubio said when he was criticized by some Democrat members of Congress that we didn’t give them a heads up, and he said, You know, we couldn’t afford any leaks.
SPEAKER 19 :
You don’t have to.
SPEAKER 17 :
He did not hedge on that at all.
SPEAKER 19 :
No, you don’t have to.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, but what is that saying? We don’t trust you. You would leak it. You would wreck this operation. Can’t trust you. Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
So it’s humor and a bunch. The whole bit. No, the whole bunch.
SPEAKER 19 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 10 :
Anyway, keep up the good work. We’ll do it.
SPEAKER 19 :
We’ll do it, Steve. No, appreciate it very much. Somebody asked if we’re going to talk about Somalia, you know, all the corruption in Minnesota and so on. Yeah, I’ve got in my notes actually, you know, Tim Wall stepping down. I believe that’s partly why. Yeah, we can talk about that in the third hour. I haven’t talked about it much. Didn’t really get into that much yesterday, mainly because I know Andy talked about that some time. I don’t want to say it’s old news. It’s continual news because they continue to dig deeper, find more fraud, and so on. But at the end of the day, it is absolutely some of the biggest bunch of corruption I think you’ve ever seen.
SPEAKER 17 :
Horrible. It’s awful. I threw a fit while you were gone. It’s just terrible. And by the way, John, it’s all Democrat. Right. Okay, look, these people were empowered by one political party. I’m not saying there isn’t a corrupt Republican involved somewhere. There probably is. There are so many. None that we know of.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, I don’t know, Andy. On this one here, it is so wildly corrupt. The man on the street going around looking for these daycare centers and so on. Oh, my word. What are they uncovering?
SPEAKER 17 :
John. What if MAGA did this? What if this was all MAGA robbing the country blind?
SPEAKER 19 :
We’d be done, Andy.
SPEAKER 17 :
We’d be done. The movement’s over. So my question to you, maybe we can look at this in the next hour. Why isn’t it the end of the Democrat Party? Because let me tell you something. It would be the end of the Republican Party. We would lose everywhere, high and low, across the board this November if this was us. And it really angers me.
SPEAKER 19 :
I put that in my notes. That’s a really good question. You’re right. I mean, if this were us and the roles were reversed, we would literally – it would be on every single newscast coast to coast, probably even around the world for that matter. You’d have BBC and others even talking about it. At the end of the day, we’d be done, Andy.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. All independent voters would be looking at the Republican Party and basically saying thieves. Right. You are thieves. Well, yeah, but – A lot of us didn’t do it. Doesn’t matter. You are thieves. We want you out.
SPEAKER 19 :
Only a small percentage of us did that. It doesn’t matter.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, it doesn’t matter.
SPEAKER 19 :
You’re all guilty.
SPEAKER 17 :
Look, the bottom line is the Democrat Party as an institution enabled what happened.
SPEAKER 19 :
You are 100% correct, Andy. All right, and we can talk about that. We’ve got a lot more to cover in Hour 3 as well. Keep in mind, during Hour 3, no guests. You guys are free to call in, 303-477-5600. Get geared up. We can do that next hour. Real quick, we’ll take our last break. Cub Creek Heat and Air Conditioning. And, yeah, cold weather’s moving back in, and we’re not out of the woods yet when it comes to winter. Keep in mind, there’s new laws when it comes to furnaces and their NOx output, which is raising the price. Find out today what Cub Creek can do for you. Find them at klzradio.com.
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SPEAKER 06 :
This isn’t Rage Radio. This is Real Relatable Radio. Back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 19 :
All right, we are back. And I got a text message a moment ago that basically said something to the effect of, and not being mean or rude, by the way, but just really, you know, basically stating, you know, don’t I wish, with all of my automotive knowledge and everything that I do, that, you know, I had my own, you know, YouTube channel, 4 million followers and so on. I could easily do that. I would put a lot of these other influencers that are in the… automotive world to shame by doing so so they’re paying me a compliment at the same time but that you know basically you know the social media thing is probably um you know basically i’m like a fuddy-duddy when it comes to social media and i’m not by the way i follow a lot of folks on social media i don’t participate much in it it’s just I don’t know how else to say it. It’s not my thing. I know it is for a lot of people. My home is right where I’m sitting. I enjoy what I do. I sit behind the microphone. I always said when it becomes no fun any longer, I’ll stop doing it. It’s still a lot of fun. It’s why I do it. Frankly, being an influencer is itself a full-time job, not that sitting here isn’t. But even that is a huge full-time job. It’s a much more involved job than I think most people think. You’d literally eat, sleep, drink, and do nothing but talk about what you’re doing on that platform, on that channel, if you would. And quite frankly, no, I don’t want my life exposed to that point to be there. It’s bad enough being on radio. I don’t really need to be on social media doing that. So it’s partly why I don’t do a lot of things there. Could I and could I make a lot of money doing that? Yeah. Do I need to? Guys, I got a very comfortable life. I’m very blessed. I have nothing to complain about. And no, I don’t want to be an influencer.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, let me tell people this. When our show ends every day, John is out that door fast, leaping into his car and running home to his wife. He likes to have a job. He likes to have a life outside of this. When you’re away and I’m hosting, you barely even listen. Why would you?
SPEAKER 19 :
I don’t want to.
SPEAKER 17 :
You want to check out and relax.
SPEAKER 19 :
I am checked out. And that’s probably the difference between me and a lot of the quote-unquote influencers that are out there is I don’t want that life. I’ll just be straight up honest, guys. I don’t want that life. It’s not for me. It’s a decision I’ve made. It was a conscious decision. Could I have gone down that path like a lot of other folks have? Sure. Do I want to? No. I appreciate the compliments, though. I do, by the way. Yes, I could probably do some things in the automotive world, especially, that would put others to shame. And I appreciate the vote of confidence there. But no, I’m happy doing exactly what I do here and how we do it. So another full hour coming your way. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 09 :
I’m a rich guy
