In this riveting episode of Rush to Reason, John Rush delves into the ramifications of AI on employment and societal productivity. With frank commentary on the state of today’s workforce and educational challenges, the discussion reveals harsh truths about laziness and declining standards. Including a shocking expose on immigration fraud, this episode is a wake-up call for individuals and policymakers alike.
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Okay, we are back. Hour number three, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes. We’re going to talk in a moment here about… A few things that Andy wanted to cover, some things that are going on on a national basis that we’ll get to real quick, though, before we do that. And I didn’t warn Andy of this, but I had somebody texting in earlier talking about, you know, AI and robots and, you know.
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Yeah.
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You know, what do I think about all that stuff? And is it the end of the world? And. What’s going to happen when somebody takes my job that’s either AI or a robot, and Elon Musk is afraid of AI and so on, and sent me a video of Elon Musk being interviewed by Tucker Carlson and so on. By the way, that’s an old video. I’m not saying that that’s good, bad, or otherwise, but what I will say when it comes to AI and robots, and I’ve said this many, many times, am I afraid of either one of them? No. I am not. Do I think this is the book of Daniel in Are We in the End Times? No, folks, I do not. I’m sorry, I just don’t. Andy and I have talked about that many times. Are we headed towards the end times, and maybe are we on the fringe of? Folks, I have the foggiest idea. I mean, no offense. It’s possible. I’ve grown up in the church. I’m 61 years old, and I’ve been hearing about the end times for about, oh, 60 years. I probably didn’t remember the first year of hearing that, but by the time I got to be three or four years of age, and Charlie can attest to this as well, that’s all I heard about.
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Right.
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You know, it’s the end times, it’s the end times, it’s the end times. When barcodes came out, it was the end times. I mean, folks, every single thing that’s come up that’s been some sort of a new latest and greatest invention, it’s the end times and Christ is coming back. Now, is Christ coming back? Yeah. When? I have foggiest idea. Don’t know. I’ll be straight up honest. Don’t care. I’m being honest. I don’t care. I’m going to live my life the way I need to live my life no matter what. And when he comes back, he comes back. But I’m living my life in the meantime because I don’t know. Neither do you. And do I sit around fretting about AI and robots? No, I do not. No more than I sit around fret about anything else. Number one, I can’t change it. I can’t control it. I can’t get rid of it. What I can do and what I’m trying to train all of you to do is I can be involved. I can help set the stage for how it works. I can actually, in the case of AI, even help train it if I’m using it and functioning inside of it and so on. So at the end of the day, can I have influence on it? I certainly can, and so can all of you. But if we just poo-poo and say it’s the end times and it’s the book of Daniel all over again, and I’m going to just cross my fingers and hope nothing bad happens, well, folks, that’s being very naive.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. And John, how many times, I’m not going to go back into the Bible passages, but how many times have we walked through those and shown people, you’re not going to know the day or the hour. It’s going to be like lightning flashing across the sky. Everybody sees it. No one sees it coming.
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At the end of the day, again, does it bother me? No. And, folks, I’m being extremely serious here. Does it bother me? No. And some of you I know. I get text messages on this on a regular basis. Does it bother some of you? Yeah, it does. I’m not sure why. I mean, I guess if I was in a job that I knew AI could affect, which, by the way, I am. I’m sitting behind a microphone right now that, you know, could some AI robot speak like me, talk like me, and take my job? I guess, maybe. I don’t sit around worrying about that because, no offense, I’ve got other things I could go and do if this doesn’t pan out. I mean, here’s the reality. There are certain jobs in the world. that we are a long way from having any kind of a robot replace fixing your car for example doing the electrical work inside of your house replacing your furnace a plumber i mean i can go down the list on and on and on i mean there’s just so many things out there that at the end of the day i mean really realistically even mowing your lawn i mean at the end of the day our robot’s going to replace those types of jobs Not anytime soon. Will it in my lifetime? I’m 61. I mean, I guess if I live to be 90, maybe another 30 years, will that change in 30 years? Folks, I have the foggiest idea. I don’t know. I don’t know. And I may not live to be 70. I don’t know. I mean, Andy, I might not live tomorrow. I don’t know. I mean, at the end of the day, we have no idea what’s going to happen next. And I’m not going to live my life in fear of robots or AI. And I encourage all of you listening to be like me in that. Don’t worry about it. When it comes along, it comes along. And what I will tell you is, I will say this. And really, because the comment came from this. Why is Donald Trump pushing so heavily for AI and robots? Well, I can tell you one reason. It’s called productivity. And as a nation, if we don’t have more productivity, you don’t continue to move GDP up. And here’s the other reality that Donald Trump understands, which I as an employer understand. People are lazy. I’m sorry, folks. People are getting dumber and lazier as time goes by. So the reality is if we don’t improve that through AI and robots, we’re not going to have the productivity we once have. And here’s my answer to that. For those of you that are parents, if we want to reverse this and we don’t want such dumb and lazy workers, then start raising your kids better. I’m being super hard right now.
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Yeah, don’t blame Donald Trump for bringing in AI.
SPEAKER 12 :
That’s right. So as an employer myself who interviews different people from time to time and I help the clients that I have hire people and so on, here’s the real answer here. If you’re tired of AI and robots and you want to change, then parents start raising better workers because here’s the reality. You’re not. Some of these kids can’t get out of mom’s basement until they’re 30 years of age and beyond. So if you really want to blame anybody, go blame the parents for the situation we have right now because they’ve allowed this to happen.
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And, John, can I give even a bigger reason why he’s doing it? Look, it is coming. It is absolutely coming. And if it’s China or Europe or Russia or somebody else in front of us, we’re going to get killed in the open market. We don’t have a choice. If we let them get ahead of us in this economically, that is like letting other nations get ahead of us with the nuclear bomb.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yep. And Andy’s right. The competition is huge. And here’s the other thing. Not all countries, but there’s a lot of countries out there that do much better in this regard productivity-wise and their workers and their smarts and so on. I mean, folks, we have got – and I know it’s by design. The Marxists have taken over the country. I get that. And in turn, we have raised literally a couple of generations, maybe even now three generations of morons. I’m sorry to say. I have no other way to say it, folks.
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There is no other way to say it.
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Literally. We’ve raised three generations of people that have no common sense. They can’t get out of the rain. because they can’t tell whether they’re wet or not, and I’m not exaggerating when I say some of this. I mean, we literally are raising individuals that are clueless about how things operate. And if you’re in that, you know, 5% of the world population here in America, or 5% of the American population actually gets it and understands it, and you have kids that way, congratulations, you’ve done really well. But there’s 95% out there that don’t have any idea of anything. I mean, they don’t have the sense God gave an ant. I’m sorry to say, they just don’t.
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No, they don’t. John, look at the state of California. They have voted themselves into destruction.
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Oblivion.
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Oblivion.
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Yes, they have.
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Do people here understand that in California right now the average gas price is well over $7 a gallon? Right. Okay.
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They’re killing themselves with votes. And they continue to vote this stuff in for themselves, telling you they have no mental capacity to do anything other than that.
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No.
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Meaning they’re not smart. Right. And again, as an employer, as somebody that is around people that are employed and so on, I’m sorry. And I’m not trying to be mean and rude. This is just the simple facts. We have the dumbest workforce in America that we’ve probably ever had in the history of the country. And I’m not exaggerating when I say that.
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Well, John, let me put it another way. Forget about the workforce for a moment. I want you to walk into Walmart. I’m not talking about the people who work there. You can, I guess. But I’m talking walk into the Walmart this weekend or walk into the mall this weekend. And all I want you to think about is this. All of those people around you that you are watching can vote. And if that doesn’t terrify you… That doesn’t scare you nothing will.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, nothing is going to… All the movies and the reviews that are super scary, that’s even scarier.
SPEAKER 04 :
I know. That makes all the slasher movies that I’m forced to watch… You’re correct. Yeah, I mean, that makes them look like nothing.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, it does. And again, folks, while I understand the concern… And I understand that there is huge concern around AI and robots and taking jobs and so on. I’m here to tell you, folks, that the reason why a Donald Trump, for one, is going down that path is what Andy said as far as competition. What I’m saying as far as the productivity end of things, he knows that we can’t do economically what we need to without them because we literally have the dumbest workforce we’ve ever had.
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Oh, by far.
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I’m sorry. And here’s the reality. Helpless. And I criticize Donald Trump a lot for a lot of things that he says. I’m saying something he would never say. Right. He would never come out and say, we need this because we have the dumbest workforce ever. He won’t say that. So I’ll give him credit. He will still refrain from saying some things that he knows will get him into trouble. But I’ll say it.
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But, John, it’s right there in all the scores.
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I know.
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And especially in the big cities. I mean, you go to Philadelphia. You go to Baltimore. You go to any of the big cities. It doesn’t matter. And you look at the scores of graduating seniors. They’re allowed to graduate, John, who are going off into the free market. These people are completely illiterate. They have no idea how any of the world actually works. No, they don’t.
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And by the way, if you don’t believe me, here’s a little test you can do, because some of you do this and send me these examples, but I’m stealing this from some of you as a texter. If you don’t believe what I’m saying, go anywhere in town, pay cash for an item, and let’s say the item comes up to $24 and, I don’t know, 60 cents.
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No, make it $62.
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Okay, $62.
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$24.62.
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Yeah. And you give them $20, I don’t know.
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You give them $30, and they don’t know that they’re supposed to give you $5.38 and change.
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Correct.
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They have no idea.
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And better yet, let’s do this. Let’s make the total… I’m trying to think of how I could word this correctly. Let’s make the total… $15.99. Okay. And you hand them $21 and just ask for a five back and they can keep the penny. Tell me how many people at the register will actually understand what I just said. Not many. Most won’t. They will look at you with this deer-in-a-headlight look like… Does that work out? What?
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Is that right? Yeah. No, no, no.
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Literally, they’ll look at you with this dumbfounded look like, yeah, that can’t be.
SPEAKER 04 :
John, you’re being way too kind. Okay, you’re being way too kind. I’m serious. I want you to watch how most people write. Okay, I want you to watch the way most people write. And, you know, they get a lot of help when they write online. You know, you’ve got autocorrect, which, by the way, sometimes makes it worse. But, okay, let’s say they do that. Watch how somebody writes a note at work. That they’re leaving a note for others who are coming the next day to walk them through maybe two, three steps of what has to be done. I mean, the illiteracy rate. And these are people, John, a lot of them could be in management. I know.
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With degrees.
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People in management with degrees. I know. When I was up at the casino, and by the way, some wonderful people, don’t get me wrong, but people in management with degrees who are practically illiterate who I had to rewrite a ton of their stuff for them.
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I know. I know. And folks, those of you talking or listening are thinking, how do you know all this, John? A, I’m an employer. B, I coach other employers that we go through these things on a regular basis with folks that work for them on a routine basis. So trust me, folks, I know firsthand what’s out there. And I meant what I said earlier. And so when you ask me, why is Donald Trump pushing so hard for AI and robots? I just gave you the answer. Yeah. And he knows that as well. So All right, let’s do this. Flesh Law coming up next. Speaking of being really smart and understanding how things work, that is Kevin Flesh, Flesh Law, civil criminal. He’s a great attorney. Call him today, 303-806-8886.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive. This is John Rush.
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All right, we are back. Myself, Andy Pate. And, okay, Andy, you were mentioning earlier, and we kind of keep pushing this one off. We keep kicking it down the road here. We’ve got time now where we can talk about it. And that is just different things, again, going on around the world, immigration fraud and so on. Give us an update on some of that.
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Yeah, and I just want to highlight one little story because it’s actually a big one. Town Hall Magazine, they just, I guess, had somebody either undercover go in or somebody who did this got them the tape.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
And it’s shocking. It really is, actually, folks. This is shocking. It’s out of Ohio. You’ve looked at it?
SPEAKER 12 :
I read the article because you put it in the notes earlier, so yes.
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It is absolutely shocking, and it’s going to become a pretty big story here over the next couple days. I would think so. And this is out of Ohio. And what it was is, you know, you’ve got these immigrants. They’re coming in from a lot of places. And in this case, they are coming from the West African nation of Mauritania. All right. Well, they’re exploiting the U.S. immigration and asylum system in Laughlin, Ohio. Okay. Now, this story, and it’s a 26-minute video, undercover, this lady doesn’t know she’s being taped. And her name is Patricia Golder. Gold Digger. Yeah, Gold Digger. Gold Digger. Okay, long story short, here’s what she does. I don’t want to walk people through it all. No, you’re fine. Take your time. You’re good. We got time. Take too long. Long story short. She helps all these people who are coming in. She admits it goes back and forth with the interview. She admits they’re here illegally. They were smuggled in through Panama and through Mexico. Cost about five grand each. And that they how’d they get here? They walked underground. They literally came through underground methods. So she knows they’re totally here illegally. And what she does is she does all their paperwork. She also counsels them in how to scam the system. So if anybody says, well, you know, you need to go back to Mauritania, what you say is, I can’t, I’ll be persecuted there. If you have to, even say you’re gay. Okay, whatever it takes, but just lie. So she counsels all these people to lie to avoid being deported and to be kept here. All right, now it gets much worse. They are getting government subsidies. They’re getting government monies through various programs and also whatever working jobs. They’re paying her monthly. She is making lots of money, okay? Tons of money to do this because they’re all paying her every single month. Now, if they don’t, if they don’t keep coming through with the payments, guess what? She’s going to expose them and, to use her words, deport their blanks back to Africa. So she’s literally going to use the deport. She’s going to expose them to ICE and have them deported if they don’t keep getting her the money. Okay.
SPEAKER 12 :
That’s extortion.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, but it gets worse. Wait, there’s more. Oh, yeah. It gets much worse. Let me get to the punchline. You’re fine. Go ahead. She’s bribing. Judges, immigration judges who are taking the bribes there in Ohio. And she’s got the judges. They will take bribes like $25,000 from her to look the other way and to let somebody do it. And this is literally happening. Okay, now. And this is big business. It’s huge money. Huge money because this is having to do with… So Golder and the reporter, they’re joined by a Mauritanian national who says he’s worked for Walmart for four months where he makes $18 an hour. He’s not even a legal citizen. She gets him paperwork and things to make him look legal. She tells him how to avoid the system. If they ever come for him, she does the whole thing to help him beat the system and stay in America. He has an ID. He has a phone number. He has everything. And he can get by. And she does this for a bunch of people. Here’s the thing, John. She’s one person in one little place in America. This is happening all across America, folks. Joe Biden just brought in 10 to 15 million people from other countries who have handlers like this all over the country who are bribing judges all over the country. Immigration judges. So, Andy, why are you bringing this up? We knew it was corrupt. Well, first of all, I want you to get just a little piece of an idea how corrupt. This is monster big business. I guarantee you this is billions and billions of dollars being scammed out of our tax dollars to pay these people. Because they’re on all kinds of public assistance. They’ve got fake papers. They’ve got fake numbers, fake socials, fake everything. Okay? That are taken care of by handlers like Golder.
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Okay.
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Okay. Now, why do I bring it up? Here’s why. Because I am angry at people telling Pam Bondi she’s got to get the Epstein files out. Who cares? Okay. And people are just like, well, Andy, that’s not a big deal. Wait a minute. We want those Epstein files released. We want them. Okay, guys. Did you hear what I just said? Pam Bondi and her team. have to find and prosecute, along with the FBI, all these people nationwide, and they’re not doing it for a couple million people now. They’re doing it, Joe Biden just brought in 10 to 15 or more million people who are in this system nationwide, embedded in businesses and communities all across the nation. Pam Bondi is buried. Pam Bondi could multiply her team by 10, right? and she wouldn’t have the number of people that she needs on her team to prosecute all these people and go get them all. And that doesn’t even, you know, we already know what happened in Minneapolis with the Somalian community. Multiply that all across the country, and it’s happening right here in Colorado. I’m telling you, folks, Pam Bondi doesn’t have enough people to do her job. We had to appoint an assistant attorney general just to take over the thing in Minnesota, the Somalian thing, right? Just that one incident. Folks, a whole new position had to be created with the team to take that on. Now, People who are saying, release the files, release the files. John, just really quickly here, I want to remind people that is an idiotic idea. And by the way, I’m pointing at you, Thomas Massey, because he keeps posting on this every day because Thomas Massey is an imbecile who hates the Republican Party anyway. Right. Okay. He’s worthless. He needs to be primaried out. He’s evil. I don’t care. I hate the guy. Right. And by the way, he hates Jews. Throw that in too. Right. But that’s my opinion. All right. With the Epstein files, I want to remind you folks, and this is very simple, every single name or incident in those files has to be completely vetted before you put it out. Why? Because those files spent four years in the hands of the Biden team, the most corrupt administration in U.S. history. Okay? That is like having the mafia in charge of a crime scene for four years and hoping they didn’t plant evidence. Okay? I mean, seriously. And hoping they didn’t plant evidence, take evidence, delete evidence. You know, we just talked about what Dave Williams did, right, with emails. Alter evidence, alter files, you know, create AI-generated communications or photos or whatever. There’s a million things that they could do with the evidence, correct? Okay. That means you can’t trust any of the evidence. The Epstein files are completely the chain of custody, as we call it, has been completely violated. We can’t trust any. So she would, I want John, what kind of manpower would she need to go through every single person in incident and make sure that she is releasing something that is correct?
SPEAKER 12 :
Not worth the effort, Andy. I’ve said that many, many times in this program. I’ve had arguments with listeners. I’ve had arguments with texters. I’ve had emails on this. I’m going to stand my ground. At the end of the day, there are so many bigger fish to fry than this, including some of the things that you just mentioned, including what’s going on in Minnesota as we speak. Folks, I can go down the list. There are so many other things that are far more important than that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, what about going after James Comey and company? What about, you know, with Russiagate? What about all of that stuff? John, what about the fact that we are busting more drugs now than we’ve ever done? Correct.
SPEAKER 12 :
And those people need prosecuted as well.
SPEAKER 04 :
They need prosecuted as well. What about ensuring that these are drug boats that were blowing up and not fishing boats? And by the way, they were drug boats, and the drug trade has now dropped off a cliff as a result. Correct. Okay, that didn’t drop off a cliff because we were blowing up fishing boats. Folks, the intel needed. the investigations needed, the undercover investigations needed with Pam Bondi’s team to do. She is following not only the most corrupt administration in U.S. history. OK, she is also following an administration that brought in about 15 million people who don’t belong here and who are now ingrained in every portion of your society, robbing you blind at all levels. It’s not just Somalians. That’s right. Okay? Plus our gang members. Okay? All over the place who are not supposed to be here. Criminals all over the place who are not supposed to be here. This is all on Pam Bondi. I’m telling you. You could take her entire team, multiply it by 10, and she doesn’t have enough. And you’ve got all these people saying two things. Number one, we want to see more convictions. When? She doesn’t have the time. I hope she can get to them. She’s trying. But number two… We want the Epstein files released. Every person, I’m going to tell you right now, who understands what it would take to release the files and still wants them released, I’m looking at you, Thomas Massey, is insane.
SPEAKER 12 :
They’re just not smart people, Andy.
SPEAKER 04 :
No.
SPEAKER 12 :
Idiots. I’m going to come back to, you know, I’ve got text messages coming in on my AI topic from a moment ago, but I’ll come back to that because it… That’s big, too. It is, and it applies in a lot of ways to what Andy’s talking about. Because, well, let me do this. I’m going to hold my thoughts. I’m going to dovetail that in in just one moment. Roof Savers of Colorado coming up next. Dave Hart wants to help you extend the life of your roof up to 15 years. He can do that with his Roof Max product, which, by the way, can be put on during these warmer days in the winter. 303-710-6916.
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SPEAKER 12 :
All right, I said I would dovetail into what I was talking about a moment, but Andy has one more thing he wants to throw in there on our last conversation.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I just want to mention one more thing, folks, comparing the Epstein files to all this other stuff. Folks, remember, the Epstein files, horrible things. I would love to see everybody in those files prosecuted.
SPEAKER 12 :
Some of them are dead, though, Andy. First of all, a bunch of them are dead. Because it was that long ago.
SPEAKER 04 :
Secondly, the ones who aren’t dead are very old. And thirdly, this is decades ago. Now, everything going on with the Somalians, with this lady in Ohio, and all throughout the gang members is happening. now as we speak they are robbing you of billions that’s right now they are fostering dissent and getting ice agents overwhelmed in cities now that’s right okay do you see the difference i do well and and you got people wanting us to release the files because they have no idea what that entails let me dovetail that back into the conversation which i’m having a text message with you know somebody on in regards to ai robots and so on let me dovetail that back into that because it applies to both by the way
SPEAKER 12 :
It’s the whole mental capacity of people, as Andy and I were talking earlier. And I’m not joking when I say that we have literally raised two, possibly three, because it started even when I was a kid. I’ll be straight up honest. Even when I was a kid, Marxism had really come in strong, was heavy in the universities at that time, was really working its way down through high school, middle school, and even elementary school. I graduated high school in the early 80s. So it was already happening at that point, Andy. Same thing when you were young. It was already there. And it was starting to infiltrate and get worse and worse. So I will tell you that literally for the past two, if not three generations, we have, because of Marxism, raised absolute morons. Folks, I don’t know any other word.
SPEAKER 04 :
Their minds work just as well, but we’ve given them totally wrong information. That’s exactly right. Economically, John, it’s like… Raising a kid and teaching them to speak wrong for 10 years and then unleashing them in society.
SPEAKER 12 :
That’s right. They can’t function. And so, you know, when it comes to, for example, what Andy’s talking about, you know, where do you sit down and really analyze, you know, where’s the bang for the buck? Is this worth doing? Is there other things that are far more important? And where I’m going with this is, and this is the same thing with AI. If you think like a worker… then you’ll come up with the things Andy’s talking about and you’ll be afraid of AI and robots and so on. On the same token, if you think like an owner, you’ll have a completely different perspective on all the things even Andy’s talking about because you start deciphering where’s your biggest bang for the buck when it’s all said and done because, Andy, that’s what owners do. Owners think that way. Non-owners or employees, I should say, think in other ways. And that’s the problem we’ve got today is by design, we have far more people thinking like employees than we do thinking like employers.
SPEAKER 05 :
Dan from Blackhawk. They’ve been trained to do so. That’s exactly right.
SPEAKER 12 :
Dan, you’re next.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. So I was having a discussion with a friend today about the whole ice thing and the woman, whatever her name was, Goode. Yeah, Renee Goode. Yeah. Yeah. It’s unfortunate what happened, but what I told her and she wasn’t disagreeing with me, there’s a cause and effect. So if she wouldn’t have driven the car to try to run over that ice agent, she would still be alive today.
SPEAKER 12 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 05 :
Correct. Some reason people don’t seem to understand the cause effect principle. They just want to portray. Okay.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, and really quick, Dan, I’m gonna throw this back at you because, you know, you be an accountant and really in a lot of ways, you know, you’re, you’re self-employed. You understand how owners think you think like one as well. Am I wrong in my perspective of what I’m saying a moment ago? Even the cause and effect. Owners think about cause and effect all day long because they know that has a big effect upon their business. Do employees think that way?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, they just want to get their paycheck, put in their time, and go home. and get on their social media to complain.
SPEAKER 12 :
So you’re basically proving the point I’m making with a texter that’s really worried about AI, and the question I got was, you know, do you have kids, and how is this going to affect their jobs, and so on. And my answer back was, you know, I have to be generally speaking with all of my kids. Each one has its own talents and so on. But generally speaking, Dan, my kids think like owners because they were raised by an owner, meaning AI will not have the same negative effect upon them as it will others because they think like owners.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, and this is the thing is you’re going to worry about AI. What you need to worry about is losing your job to somebody who has embraced AI and knows how to use AI.
SPEAKER 12 :
Great point.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes, you’re great. You’re exactly right on that one.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, go ahead, Andy. Well, really quick here. I mean, we have to understand every advancement has been a threat to the workers. Is AI a threat to workers? Yes. Absolutely. Sure it is. I don’t want to lie about that. Robotization was a big threat to workers. Look at what happened to union jobs in the auto industry. That’s right. You’re right. And obviously, much more efficient ways of simply manufacturing, even before robotization, cut the number of workers that you need. Every advancement… technologically is a threat to workers.
SPEAKER 12 :
This is no different. The refinement of, because Henry Ford didn’t invent the assembly line, but he refined the assembly line to the point where a lot of people didn’t like what he even did at that time, Dan. But the point is, he produced also a lot more cars, much more cheaply, made it more affordable for people to own them. And of course, the horse and buggy guys were really upset, just like people are upset today with AI. Reality is, and I’ve said this in a text message back to this particular listener, you can’t stop progress, Dan and Andy.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, but you can complain about it and say you’re going to lose your job.
SPEAKER 12 :
Or you can be a part of it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Or you can gain new skills because even though there’s going to be menial jobs that are going to go away… That means there’s going to be a creation of a new job type, and you need to be on the cutting force for that.
SPEAKER 12 :
And really quick, Dan, I’m going to use your job as an example. So accountants. Will AI replace accountants? Some. Those accountants that simply just fill out forms and don’t take any other information in. They don’t help with any kind of tax strategy. Anything along those lines? Yes, Dan, in a lot of cases, those may very well get replaced with AI. Now, good accountants like yourself, they will look at AI and say, wait a minute, how can I help get more returns done at the end of the day, make more money? But I also am going to be here to advise my clients that, yeah, this is a good strategy or no, even though AI says this, I probably wouldn’t look at it that way. I would look at it a different way. That’s where guys like you come into play. You use AI to strengthen the current job that you have or the current business that you have. But at the end of the day, you’re still not replaced, Dan.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, because I’m going to embrace AI and use it to my advantage. To make more money. Yeah, to make more money, be more efficient, and be more effective in what I’m doing.
SPEAKER 12 :
And that’s the example I’m trying to give back to this particular texter that’s so upset and afraid about AI. And I get it. There’s Elon Musks and others that are out there touting that AI is going to kill jobs and so on. And by the way, Elon’s not wrong. But here’s the thing. Elon’s not stupid. Probably one of the smartest guys on the planet, for that matter. Trust me, Elon knows, and if he was in this room with us, he may not say it openly, but believe me, Dan, he would agree with everything that Andy and I just said, that we literally have raised multiple generations of stupid people.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, because we don’t teach them. And this isn’t just the schools. This is parents, too. Absolutely. We haven’t been teaching our kids how to think critically, right?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, thank you, Dan. We don’t teach our kids how to be rational, how to critically think through problems. And part of that, Dan, is because we’ve got parents that are either helicopter or snowplow parents to where they don’t want their kids ever to fail. So if you never fail, Dan, you don’t have to think critically and rationally, because why? If you’re going to never fail, why do you need to think that way?
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, because your parents are going to take care of it, and society is going to take care of it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Correct. Meaning when that happens, there’s no critical thinking skills left. Kids get the ability to just do whatever they want to, thinking the outcome’s always going to be the same, and unfortunately we raise as educated idiots.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, basically with the AI debate, here it is. We have raised generations who cannot stand on their own two feet, and now those generations are terrified of the company building crutches.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
I…
SPEAKER 05 :
I don’t know. I don’t know what to say because it’s – I remember several years ago, you know, they were talking about the younger generation knew so much more about computers and everything else. But then when I had kids that were coming out of college and, you know, using analytical skills and stuff, they couldn’t – you know, I talked to them, and I use Excel a lot.
SPEAKER 12 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 05 :
They can even do basic functions in Excel.
SPEAKER 12 :
Dan, you’re saying the same thing that I learned a long time ago, and this is really the opposite of what you would think. You would think that these kids that have grown up with all of this technology where guys like us did not, you, I, Andy, we didn’t grow up with any of this stuff. We had to learn computers when they came along. We had to learn not only from, you know, Excel, but even the program that was there prior to that. We didn’t even have Word. We had Word Perfect before Word. I mean, at the end of the day, we had to do all sorts of things and learn as we went. These kids, unfortunately, Dan, they’ve been kind of thrown into where all this technology exists. And to be real honest with you, they don’t know anything about it. I’m serious. I have met young kids even that, frankly, they don’t even know how to do basic things, you know, computer speaking like the rest of us do, because, frankly, they just don’t have to do it. They’ve never had to. They don’t know.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. And let me use another example. So I run an archery league on Thursday nights. Okay. It’s basic math. You shoot a set end of arrows. You add that up. And then you add up however many ends per game. So it’s three or four. Right. and you add that up and you do a score and then you compare it to your team you’re shooting against, then the young kids can’t even add two numbers together.
SPEAKER 12 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s like, what are they teaching you in school? This is basic math.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, and again, I’m sorry, I always keep going back to this. I think sometimes I even frustrate Bob Duco sometimes on the roundtable, because I always go back to the foundational problems of a lot of the things that we experience, especially here in the United States of America, and that is the fact that Marxism came into this country a hundred years ago, and it has done nothing but blossom ever since. And we’re reaping that today.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I mean, it’s… I mean, when a perfect score is 30 and if you shoot three nines, some people say, well, I subtract. Well, the way my mind thinks, I already know that happens. It’s 27. I don’t even have to think of it.
SPEAKER 12 :
It’s 27. You don’t think at all. It’s 27.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. It’s just the way my mind processes it.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I’m like you, Dan. And this is what they don’t teach kids anymore, and they’ve gone away from it. I don’t know why. It used to be when we learned math, it was done by memorization. 2 plus 2 is 4. 4 plus 4 is 8. 8 plus 8 is 16, and so on. Reality is we memorized all those things. We didn’t do any functions in our head because you memorized it. They don’t teach kids that way now, Dan.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, but it’s – I don’t know. But everybody’s mind thinks differently, right? And it’s learning how – Some people, they subtract me, I add, and I look at patterns of numbers. Because I know 30 is a perfect score. So if I got a 5, 6, and an 8, right? Well, 5 and 6 is 11 plus 8 is 19. That’s just how I think. So what I’m doing is I’m adding numbers.
SPEAKER 12 :
two numbers and then I’ll add the third number or I’ll add the three numbers and I’ll add the fourth number it’s just you know but Dan again and you you of all people in the accounting world should know yeah we’re not teaching that in school anymore this whole new math thing does not teach that way now do they get the same answers in what they’re doing. Sure, they do. The problem is, though, they can’t do it quickly because they’re not memorizing anything. And here’s my thought on the whole memorization thing. I know schools will say, well, you know, there’s other ways to do things, and we don’t need kids to memorize this and memorize that, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. To me, memorization and exercising your brain in that way is also one of the ways we stave off Alzheimer’s on down the road because you keep your brain healthy by doing those things.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, the multiplication tables. Remember those?
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, absolutely.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, you would take the three on one row and three on the column. That’s right. And you’d go over and you’d find nine.
SPEAKER 12 :
But then there’s the, you know, the… They used to surround the classrooms with those, Dan. They were up on the upper end like wallpaper on the top of the wall. That’s how we used to do it when we were kids.
SPEAKER 05 :
Like two squared, three squared, four squared, five squared. I think I got up to 16 at one point.
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean, bottom line, and I get it, their theory is as long as kids know how to do the function, they’ll be okay and they’ll figure it out. Well, until you’re in a situation like you’re talking about and there’s no calculator handy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, right. And then they don’t even know how to arrive at the answer.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, that’s the other thing. It’s even like, okay, if you want to come up with the percentage of something, most of them don’t even know how to put that into the calculator correctly to even figure it out.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. And this is the thing. Everybody has unique abilities that they can contribute to society. I agree.
SPEAKER 12 :
And let me add one caveat to that. Provided that we nurture and strengthen those and make them a part of that. But if we’re constantly pushing the obstacles out of the way and they never have to do anything, they’ll never do what you’re talking about, Dan. They’ll never become a functioning part of society contributing.
SPEAKER 05 :
But it’s more important that, like you said, we teach them Marxism, we teach them that they’re a victim, than, hey, this is what you contribute to society.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, and the reason for that, for everybody listening, when you go down that Marxist movement, when you do what you’re saying, Dan, and they become a victim, and they’re now waiting for government to save them, and they’re now sucking off of things rather than contributing, yeah, they never contribute because they’re now sucking off the system.
SPEAKER 04 :
Now, wait a minute. Can I ask a question? Does this all come together? And what I mean is this. They don’t get math. Two and two is four, four and four is eight, and so forth, right? They also, at the same time, don’t understand consequences.
SPEAKER 12 :
No.
SPEAKER 04 :
She tried to run over a cop. She ran into a cop with a car.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right. Caused internal bleeding on his behalf.
SPEAKER 04 :
And he shot, and she died.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right. And yet he’s the bad guy.
SPEAKER 04 :
They don’t understand actions bringing consequences. They don’t understand two and two bringing four.
SPEAKER 12 :
They don’t understand that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Do you see what I’m saying?
SPEAKER 12 :
No, they do not. You’re right.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
It all goes down to that. Do they even teach music in school anymore? They do.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
Do they? Okay. Because, you know, music is mathematical notes and everything. You’ve got eighth notes, quarter notes, half notes, whole notes, right?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 05 :
And then you’ve got sharps and your flats and everything else. Right. It’s all mathematically based, and maybe this helped me, but I learned piano when I was a kid. My mom gave me piano lessons, and not realizing that it was fractions, and then going out on the construction site with my dad using a tape.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I learned my fractions off of end wrenches.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, right.
SPEAKER 12 :
Literally. My dad would say, you know, hand me a 9-16ths or a 7-16ths or a 5-16ths or a 3-8ths. I mean, I learned all my fractions by handing him in wrenches when I was a kid.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know what’s interesting? The most regimented music, if you want to talk about learning math, is rap. Totally regimented, totally math, math, math. I guarantee you any rap artist is great at math.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, but they don’t realize that.
SPEAKER 12 :
Good point. Anyways, I mean, bottom line, Dan, is all of this, and for all of you listening, I’m not just complaining about generations. I mean, the reality is this has all been by design. It’s what we talk about here constantly on Rush to Reason to try to break these cycles so that some of you listening that are raising kids today will do it differently because otherwise you’re going to end up with kids that are of the same product of what the last few generations have had. The reality is you can break that cycle, but, Dan, it’s up to us as mentors and parents to do that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, but how do we teach the kids that are having kids? Because they are kids.
SPEAKER 12 :
I get it. I get it. No, I get it. Dan, I’ll let you go. Appreciate you, man, as always. Thanks for your comments. It’s always well-informed, and I appreciate that. We’ll take a break. Let’s do this. Ridgeline, yep, that’s next. Ridgeline Auto Brokers coming up next. And when it comes to buying a new used car, they’ve got you covered. Shop online at RidgelineAutoBrokers.com.
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It’s time to leave your safe space. This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 04 :
Welcome back to Rush to Reason, Deadverse Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. John, you know, another thing is our culture rejects Christianity.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
And this all works together, too. You can’t add two and two and get four. You can’t understand consequences. Look at this. First thing in the Bible, right? What does God do? He gives us two trees. Choose from this one, live. Choose from that one, die. Choice, reward, consequence. Choice, reward, consequence. That’s the foundational system of the entire Christian belief system. Those rioters in Minnesota don’t understand that.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, they do not.
SPEAKER 04 :
They don’t get it at all.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, they do not. Those people that barge into the church have no idea.
SPEAKER 04 :
He murdered that girl, a mother of three, and he just murdered her. It doesn’t even compute.
SPEAKER 12 :
It doesn’t. You’re right.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know why? Because the word compute. They can’t compute.
SPEAKER 12 :
You’re right.
SPEAKER 04 :
They can’t understand. They can’t understand the consequences. And, you know, set that aside. Forget the initial thing. What about the consequences societally? Okay. If you are lawless, if you let lawlessness reign and let people come in. You know, invade a nation as much as they want and have no consequences for that. What are going to be the results of that? They have no idea. It doesn’t even occur to them. You do realize they’re going to drive up the cost of homes and drive down the value of your paycheck.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Because you don’t have to be paid as much because they can get cheap work over here. And you got way more people competing to buy your house. So it’s going to be more expensive. You do understand. No, they don’t get consequences. They don’t understand. I make choices and things happen.
SPEAKER 12 :
Go ahead. No, you’re right, Andy. They don’t. And again, sorry to sound like a couple of old, you know, geezers here at the end of the program on a Tuesday talking about how bad things are when it comes to the generations that we have raised up over the past two to three. And the fact that, yeah, what started this whole conversation was, you know, why is Trump pushing so hard when it comes to AI and robotics? Well, because of the very thing we’re talking about. Trust me, Donald Trump’s not stupid. He sees, and by the way, he’s got pretty sharp kids and grandkids. As much as the left hates him, I will tell you right now that his kids and grandkids, they’re sharp. They know how to work. They know how to function. They think like owners, a lot like I’ve been talking about in this past hour. Reality is they don’t think like their other kids that are around them. And Donald Trump knows that, sees that, and realizes that, wait a minute, time out. If we don’t have some things to help us economically speaking, we’re dead. He knows that, Andy.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, John, the majority of Americans believe the ICE officer was in the wrong.
SPEAKER 12 :
I know.
SPEAKER 04 :
And you tell me that Donald Trump shouldn’t be pushing AI?
SPEAKER 12 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 04 :
We’re incompetent. We are helpless. We are idiots as a society.
SPEAKER 12 :
So those of you that are worried about and even texting me that, you know, am I worried about my kids losing their jobs? No, I don’t. And, folks, here’s why. Because I’ve raised my kids to think like owners. meaning they have a different mentality going into their job even when they work for someone else. They think differently than all of their coworkers even do because they were raised by me, who has an owner mindset, and I don’t think about life the way everybody else does. Your kids own their choices. Correct, and they know that. Right. And for those of you listening, that’s where if you can get your kids, your family members, to think that same way, guess what? AI will be an aid to them, not a detriment.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Meanwhile, the state with the greatest natural resources in the entire country, California, is imploding because of how people vote.
SPEAKER 12 :
The very thing we’re talking about right now, Andy, the very same thing we’re talking about.
SPEAKER 04 :
John, nothing’s changed. They don’t get the two trees. They don’t understand. Choose this, live, choose that, die. They don’t get it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Andy, it’s true even here in Colorado. We don’t understand that the choices we make with politicians – for example, I talked about the city of Golden yesterday getting all over Xcel Energy’s case because of what they did in shutting the power down. It’s like Xcel Energy is really – they’re as woke as you are, city of Golden leaders. At the end of the day, you’re all in the same bed together. How are you finding this so out of whack that Xcel Energy shut your power off, you dodo heads?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
You’re all in the same bed together.
SPEAKER 04 :
I wish we had time to look at what Lakewood just did. They just sunk themselves with phones.
SPEAKER 12 :
They did. They just screwed themselves big time on that because they are now going to have to give back millions upon millions of dollars in sales tax on something that they got fought over, which the other people won. Good for them.
SPEAKER 04 :
Choice, reward, consequence. They didn’t see it coming.
SPEAKER 12 :
They did not see it coming. All right, that’s it for this Tuesday edition. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes signing off. You guys have a fantastic evening. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
