Join us in this compelling episode of Rush to Reason, where host John Rush confronts the fear and challenges associated with failure in today’s society. In a heartfelt monologue, Rush urges listeners to break free from fear’s shackles, offering insight into building resilience in a world that can often seem daunting and unforgiving.
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This is Rush to Reason.
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You are going to shut your damn yapper and listen for a change because I got you pegged, sweetheart. You want to take the easy way out because you’re scared. And you’re scared because if you try and fail, there’s only you to blame. Let me break this down for you. Life is scary. Get used to it. There are no magical fixes.
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With your host, John Rush.
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My advice to you is to do what your parents did, get a job first. You haven’t made everybody equal. You’ve made them the same and there’s a big difference.
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Let me tell you why you’re here. You’re here because you know something. What you know you can’t explain, but you feel it. You’ve felt it your entire life, that there’s something wrong with the world. You don’t know what it is, but it’s there. It is this feeling that has brought you to me.
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Are you crazy? Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind?
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It’s Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush. Presented by Cub Creek Heating and Air Conditioning.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, welcome. Wednesday edition, or sorry, Tuesday edition. I’m one day behind.
SPEAKER 16 :
Getting ahead of yourself. Tuesday edition, Rush to Reason. You want to talk about health? I guess.
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Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes. How’s Andy?
SPEAKER 16 :
Andy’s doing well.
SPEAKER 17 :
Andy’s at least on the right day.
SPEAKER 16 :
I’m feeling healthy and well.
SPEAKER 17 :
Good, good.
SPEAKER 16 :
Just because you said Wednesday.
SPEAKER 17 :
Andy’s on the right day. Well, I just did the Wednesday promo, so that’s probably why I had Wednesday on the brain. But yeah, it is Tuesday, the Tuesday edition of Rush to Reason. Yesterday’s impossible question. What protein misfolding causes mad cow disease? It’d be prion.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 17 :
Cryon protein. It’s a fatal brain disease in cows.
SPEAKER 16 :
What is mad cow disease again?
SPEAKER 17 :
Mad cow disease or bovine spongiform encephalopathy. It is a fatal brain disease in cows that causes a progressive neurological disorder. It’s caused by an abnormal prion, the type of infectious protein that triggers normal proteins in the brain to fold abnormally, leading to the destruction of brain cells and nervous system tissue. The prions are misfolded forms of proteins normally found in the bodies of animals and people. In cows, BSE is transmitted through contaminated feed containing parts from other cows that were sick with BSE.
SPEAKER 16 :
And still, when, you know, going through that, they could graduate from most public schools.
SPEAKER 17 :
Or run a nice protest.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I think so. Sorry, I didn’t. That’s bad. No, it isn’t bad. It’s true. You’ve seen these people.
SPEAKER 17 :
I know. Yes, I have.
SPEAKER 16 :
Nothing but paid societal debris.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes, I have seen them. And I think, you know, we’re going to talk about this a little bit later. How do you talk to some of the younger generation about some of these things? And in all seriousness, I think it is really important to point out to a lot of these younger folk that it is becoming more and more well-known now that the majority, not all, But the majority of protesters at these ICE quote-unquote protests and events are in fact bussed in. They’re paid. It’s been proven. I saw a video of that today where somebody was videoing – well, actually the guy that’s been up in Minneapolis recording all of the nonsense with the Somalians and the fraud and so on. Well, he happened to be the man on the street filming them board a bus. Yeah. on their way out. So it’s very well documented that a large portion of these protesters are, in fact, paid. Andy, I’ll get into some of that later. And for a lot of you, you’re struggling. I get text messages and questions on this. How do I talk to young people, kids, grandkids? And so how do I get this across to them of what’s really happening and going on? Because there’s a lot of You know, things being thrown around by these kids that, you know, ICE is racist and ICE is this and ICE is that. And the reality is we’ll talk about some of that a little bit later because, no, ICE is doing its job, the job we’re paying it to do. And in a lot of areas where you don’t have Democrat-run cities… They’re doing that job very effectively, like, for example, in North Carolina, where they just rounded up, I believe, like 104, 105 individuals. These are bad individuals. These are not your typical run-of-the-mill illegal alien that just happened to cross over the border, and they’re trying to irk out a living and so on. No, no, no, no, no. That’s not the people that they’re rounding up right now. These are the bad actors, which is exactly what Trump said he would do. And the question that you could even ask some of these individuals is, Okay, where were you protesting when Biden and Obama both were doing the same thing? Because this isn’t new, Andy. We’ve done this over and over and over again.
SPEAKER 16 :
Actually, we’re doing it at a slower pace than Obama did.
SPEAKER 17 :
Because we’re being more calculated in the individuals that we’re actually rounding up. So to Andy’s point, this is one of the things you could use as an argument back to some of your young people, is it’s a much more pinpointed argument. way of doing it today, meaning our numbers aren’t even as high under Trump as they were under Obama and Biden, because they’re not just rounding up to round up, they’re doing it in a calculated manner. So, again, we’ll talk more about that on how you can talk to your young people about this because it’s a very – I know, it’s very dicey, very difficult. It can be very divisive inside of a family, and Andy has great experience on this as well, and we’ll talk about that a little bit later. Today’s impossible question – sorry for that long explanation of the last one, but we got to talking about mad cow disease, and it sort of blended in. Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I mean, it naturally blends into these protesters.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes, go ahead. Today’s a possible question. What cipher uses shifting letters by a fixed number? What cipher uses shifting letters by a fixed number? And these are questions I have the foggiest idea.
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Shifting letters by a fixed number.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes. No, I would never guess this.
SPEAKER 16 :
Not a Ouija board.
SPEAKER 17 :
I’m not that smart.
SPEAKER 16 :
Dude, I wouldn’t know.
SPEAKER 17 :
No idea. All right. In other news, because I talked about this yesterday. I talked about the Erie police officer. Andy was even texting me yesterday when that was all going on. And it has been now released that the town of Erie, in fact, did fire that police officer.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
Rightfully so, by the way.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
You can’t have somebody have them doing that.
SPEAKER 16 :
No. And this is the thing. When you expose that you have that mindset about a good portion of your customers, then there’s no way that they can trust that you are going to enforce the law evenly. Can you really quick remind people who didn’t hear the story?
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, yeah, the story was, in this particular case, let me go back to my notes from yesterday. In this particular case, give me one second. Sorry, Andy put me on the spot. Give me one minute to go find this.
SPEAKER 04 :
I did that to you, didn’t I?
SPEAKER 17 :
That’s okay. Let me go find where it was. This particular Erie policeman, her name was Hallie Hazel Shimko, and she was an officer at the Erie Police Department. Erie, for those of you maybe that are new to the area and didn’t hear me explain that yesterday, Erie is a little town. It’s bigger now than it used to be, but I grew up in that area. So Erie is a little town that is north of Lafayette, Colorado, east of Boulder, west of I-25, not all the way to Longmont. It’s not even halfway between Lafayette and Longmont. It really goes Lafayette and then Erie, and then there’s kind of a stretch where there’s nothing, and then it’s Longmont. So it kind of gives you an idea of where it’s at up in the north end of town.
SPEAKER 16 :
And that’s a pretty liberal area, wouldn’t you say?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. I mean, it didn’t used to be when I grew up in that area.
SPEAKER 16 :
Close to Boulder. It was very conservative.
SPEAKER 17 :
But, yeah, it’s expanding. Well, Erie is kind of a wannabe, you know, Boulder and all of that. So, yes, there’s a lot of liberals that live in that particular area, no doubt about it, Andy. And in this case, she had posted. She commented. Let me say it this way. So there was a post that was made. And then about ICE and the fact that this particular individual wanted ICE eliminated, basically. Like physically. Physically eliminated, killed. Well, Hallie, she posted on the murdering of ICE agents saying, quote, They wear armor so headshots would work better, unquote. Right. This is a police officer with that quotation.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right. She’s giving them strategic advice on how to actually kill an ICE agent.
SPEAKER 17 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 16 :
You know, I mean, obviously she has to be gone because how can you trust that somebody like that is going to enforce the law equally with, say, conservatives and liberals in her area?
SPEAKER 17 :
She’s not going to. You can’t.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, she isn’t. If she finds out, if she sees that you’ve got a MAGA sticker or a Trump sign or a coming up a Vance Rubio sign or anything like that, right? Is she going to respond to your house and protect you in the same way as others? Absolutely not. But here’s another question I want to run by you before we go to break. What about the Nurses Association, Education Association, and those people up in Minnesota who say that they are one with ICE?
SPEAKER 17 :
We can talk about this.
SPEAKER 16 :
I’m going to promo this.
SPEAKER 17 :
Dr. Kelly and I are going to talk about this on Thursday more because they’re getting canned, fortunately, and they should be.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, they all need to be fired. Any nurse or any nurse who wants their Nurses Association, to take a stand against ICE should be immediately fired. How can we trust that you would evenly and gently and kindly help and care for everybody who comes in through the front doors of your hospital? When people come in through the front doors of your hospital, guess what? They are hurting. They are helpless. They need your help. And I tell you what, I don’t care if they’re left, right, middle. It doesn’t make any difference. It doesn’t make any difference. You care for them. Look, as you know, I went through this situation with someone very close to me. They knew that he was not vaxxed. He wasn’t vaxxed. They treated him like hell. Horribly. And I will to this day, I would never go to that hospital again. But what I’ve come to realize is there are a lot of people in the nursing profession. It has become incredibly liberal. And there are a lot of people in that profession who honestly should not be in it. There are some wonderful nurses, but I’m telling you what, John, they got to do something.
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Well, really quick, and again, Andy and I will talk about this a little bit later in the program, but this story coming out of Erie, by the way, would be a great example, not in a mean attacking way of somebody that you might differ with when it comes to this whole situation with ICE, but that’s a great example of… There’s only one side of the aisle doing this. Now, they’re going to come back and say, well, yeah, but they killed two innocent people. Okay, time out. No. Number one, not innocent. So be careful when you use the word innocent because you can go back and look at both of those particular individuals and what they had been doing to provoke ICE all along. And we’ve said this on air many times. I’ll keep saying it. Is it right to take their life? No, but I’m not there. I’m not in the heat of the battle. And when things happen, it’s that old, you know, it’s the old F.A.F.O. I mean, I’m sorry to say, but, you know, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I mean, I wasn’t there and I’m not advocating for the killing of anyone. But when you’re there in the heat of the moment and you’re causing the disruption and things happen, there’s only one person to blame yourself.
SPEAKER 16 :
John, even with this latest one, which I think is the closest case, either way, right? It could go either way. And I’m not even going to say which way it should go. The simple fact is, can you imagine in your wildest dreams physically accosting law enforcement while being armed?
SPEAKER 17 :
No, I cannot. No, I cannot. It just in my brain doesn’t equate to that.
SPEAKER 16 :
You just can’t do that. That is so hopelessly stupid.
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Correct.
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Right.
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Correct. No. We’re going to come back, take a break. At the bottom of the hour, so 3.30, Andy, I’ll just give a little promo here, is going to preview. I talked about this last night, but Andy’s going to preview the or give you a review of the Melania movie, the movie review that she’s or the movie she just came out with, which, by the way, is doing very well. Yes, it is. We’ll talk about that. But again, we will, for those of you listening, and you may want to even, maybe you’ve got the ability to even round some of your family up and so on, where Andy and I, we will at 4 o’clock, so 45 minutes from now, we’ll get into more depth. How do you speak to folks in your own family? Could be young, could be old, could be equal in age, but how do you speak to people that are struggling with and or you know, even calling you names because you have an opinion on what’s happening with ICE and immigration and so on. We’ll talk about that because there are some things I believe you can talk about with young people. And the biggest thing that really that we need to get across to young people, again, we’ll talk about this at 4 o’clock, but really it’s the ideology right now coming out of the left and how Marxist It is. And the fact that what’s going on right now, even with these protesters against ICE, it’s very much part of the Marxist movement.
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Oh, yes.
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I mean, spot on.
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100%.
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God Country Reason Now back to John Rush.
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And we are back. Appreciate you joining us. Rush to Reason, Debra’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, Andy’s going to review the movie Melania here in just a few minutes. But before that, in Chicago, Joe sent me this, Jersey Joe did. There were anti-ICE protesters that took their protest to a local AMC movie theater that was showing the movie Melania. And, of course, they’re telling the movie manager that because he’s allowing the movie to be shown, he’s now both a fascist and he’s supporting ICE and so on. And… But the cray-crayness, the craziness just doesn’t stop, Andy.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, it doesn’t. Do you want me to weigh in a bit? Go right ahead. I have managed theaters. Yeah, the theater manager has no say in what is placed. Absolutely zero, right? Yeah, that comes from his home office based on targeting each area. So the theater manager has no say whatsoever in whether or not that’s going to be shown at their theater. And by the way, that’s true with every other movies, right? Right. Of course.
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He has no say in what’s being played.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, that’s going to come from your home office. Your home office is going to actually strike deals with all of these companies, these production companies, as to how many screens you’re going to have for various films and where those are going to be placed. They’re actually going to talk with them about, okay, I think this film would do extremely well in this area of the country, not as well in that area of the country, so you’re going to want more screens here than there. I don’t want to bore you with all that, but bottom line, If you want to protest all of AMC or all of Cinemark or all of whoever, well, you can do that, but it’s really stupid. Because, by the way, you’re protesting a liberal company. These companies are very liberal, okay? 95% of what they put out is, actually, these days, John, thanks to Go Woke, Go Broke, the vast majority of movies coming out are apolitical.
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True.
SPEAKER 16 :
And we’ve noticed this, right? I do my political score every Friday. And mostly, what do I give it? I give it a three, right? It’s not a one or a zero or a five. It’s a three. It didn’t say anything. Those that are political, though, I would say about 95% of those lean left. So AMC is going to be a very left-wing company. For instance, where I go to the movies, this AMC, the people who take care of me, who serve me there, let’s see, they’re gay, they’re trans, they’re young, they’re very liberal.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. You can tell. And we get along great. You can always tell.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I don’t care.
SPEAKER 17 :
It’s not hard to tell on those things. I mean, you can usually tell by actions and comments that are made and so on, you know, where somebody stands. And I’m like you, Andy. It’s like, okay, at the end of the day, I don’t care. As long as I’m getting my popcorn, I don’t care what you are.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, no, no. Yeah, I don’t care at all. I love them. They treat me well. We get along great. And, you know, the simple fact is, though, these places, not only are theater companies pretty left-wing. Right. Because the people who work there came up through the ranks, but their employees are overwhelmingly left wing. Right. You have almost no right wingers who work at theaters. There are a few. I would say it’s 10, 15 percent tops. And so what you’re doing is you’re making life hard on your own, is what I’m saying. You know, when they went up and protested at the church in Minneapolis, at least they were going against God fearing people, people who like God. Well, right there, that’s their opponents. They hate God. So they were protesting against people who like God because supposedly one of the pastors there works together with ICE, whatever. But in the case of the theaters, they’re protesting their own, they’re idiots. What do you think?
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100%.
SPEAKER 16 :
As for Melania.
SPEAKER 17 :
I mean, they’re, well, again.
SPEAKER 16 :
Melania, by the way, is not somebody who is any kind of a hardcore immigration person. Melania is very apolitical.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
If anything, she leans left.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. Like this example, this is how movie theaters are run. You’re protesting something that really that particular individual has no choice in doing. That would be like going to Dairy Queen and protesting the fact they serve vanilla ice cream. Yeah, it’s a part of what they do. But it’s white. And they’re mandated that they serve vanilla ice cream. So at the end of the day, it’s not up to those individuals that are protesting and they’re trying to tell the manager what to do when the manager has no choice in the manner whatsoever, no more than they have a choice in the jobs that they do. Now, really quick, I say that loosely because in the case of a lot of these protesters, they have no jobs.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right.
SPEAKER 17 :
That is their job.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, that is their job. They’re literally getting paid to do that. Now, I will say one thing. Strategically, it does make sense in one way. They are stopping the market for that movie. They are telling AMC at this theater and this theater and maybe a couple others, you are losing a lot of money because you’re running this theater. And that will go back to home office, and then they’ll make a decision based on that. Maybe they’ll say, we can’t run it. No, I doubt that. I think they’re going to run it. OK, but I just think it’s a horrible thing to do. Look, there are a lot of incredible, incredibly liberal movies that come out. And I’ve never seen the right come out and protest at a theater because of that.
SPEAKER 17 :
I agree. We don’t do those things.
SPEAKER 16 :
No.
SPEAKER 17 :
I mean, again, I think one of the other distinctions between one side versus the other is on our side, we don’t tell the other side what to do or not do. Now, I get it. There’s exceptions to that, and you’re going to find some people that will come out and say, well, what about this and what about that? Okay, yeah, there is that rare exception where our side might do something stupid and do that. But in general, we don’t do that. We have the attitude of you do you and we’ll do me.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right. I mean, I could want to protest any De Niro film, for instance, because he is such a horrifying person. But we don’t. But I don’t do that. You know why? I think that everybody should be allowed to decide whether or not they want to pay their money and watch De Niro.
SPEAKER 17 :
They want to do— It’s called freedom. Thank you. And the way I’ve always described it, and once again, it’s hard to get someone to really understand this simple sentence, but it’s—and Kim Munson says it all the time in her morning program—it’s force versus freedom. Right. There’s two different ideologies when it comes to how you believe life should be done, and our side is the freedom side and the other side is the force side. We don’t believe in forcing anything. Now, they’re going to come back and say, well, then what’s ICE doing? Well, actually, ICE is making sure that freedom rings because they’re making sure that all of us that are here legally continue to be that way. So actually what they’re doing is actually on the freedom side because they’re handling the law and order. We believe, our side believes in a country with law and order, you know, the rule of law. And what they’re doing is enforcing the rule of law.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right. As I always tell liberals, look, it’s very simple. I want to control my own life, not yours. And I support every choice that doesn’t take away someone else’s choice. Okay, that’s why we don’t let you kill somebody or rape them or rob them.
SPEAKER 17 :
Or come into the country illegally.
SPEAKER 16 :
Or come into their country illegally or forget the country, come into your home illegally. Okay, there are reasons we have to enforce laws. Why? The whole reason for laws is to keep one person’s choice from taking away another person’s choice. And immigration feeds right into that.
SPEAKER 17 :
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The best export we have is common sense. You’re listening to Rush to Reason.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate and John! Are you ready for a Tuesday movie?
SPEAKER 17 :
Tuesday movie, yes.
SPEAKER 16 :
That’s kind of different.
SPEAKER 17 :
It is, but it’s alright.
SPEAKER 16 :
We’ll take it. By the way, I couldn’t do it on Friday, for those who don’t know, because they didn’t have any Thursday night shows. of this which was like you explained earlier very surprising very no one has control over that you included i have no control over that right okay john let’s spend 20 days with our first lady in melania okay here we go again you can come and do one of them i promise legacy will be that of peacemaker peacemaker
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SPEAKER 14 :
Everyone wants to know. So here it is. Hi, Mr. President. Congratulations. Did you watch it? I did not. Yeah, I will see it on the news.
SPEAKER 16 :
I’ll get to that in a moment. Okay, John, this is the 20 days leading up to Trump’s second inauguration in 2025, plus the day after. Well, we begin with Melania walking through a series of corridors, getting in and out of limos. And I’ll tell you what, she does a lot of work. Everywhere she walks, she exudes power and confidence and control. It’s really something to watch. She talks about how much she loves Michael Jackson’s music. By the way, so do I. I think he’s fantastic. He’s weird, but fantastic. She plans every aspect of the inauguration. There’s her outfit. Then there’s her dress for the parties at night. There are caterers, place settings, every detail imaginable. It’s like watching HGTV. And you’re watching her do it. It’s really something to watch. We see a flashback. And you just heard that with Donald calling Melania earlier on election night. She’s appreciative, but so reserved. She’ll watch it on the news. He’s telling her about the landslide. I was laughing out loud. She is like, it’s just like he’s telling her that he’s going to pick up milk and eggs at the store on the way home. Do you need anything else? I mean, that is about what the phone call. She’s not dismissive or rude in any way. It’s just that none of it means anything to her. It’s just really something to watch. Well, everyone knows Melania is highly intelligent, by the way she is.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. Doesn’t she speak like five languages or some dumb thing? Fluently. Or not dumb. That’s not a dumb thing. That’s an excellent thing.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
Because I can’t speak English. You’re working on one. Yeah, I’m working on one.
SPEAKER 16 :
And by the way, I think you’re coming along pretty well.
SPEAKER 17 :
With you and Charlie’s help, yes, I do.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, well, she’s highly intelligent, but intelligent people come in different forms. John, they’re often chaotic, like her husband is in viewing the world trade landscape, right? He’s not foolish at all, but he’s chaotically brilliant. Or like Elon Musk, right? He is brilliant, brilliant, but he’s also chaotic. You never know what he’s going to say next. True. Think about Doc in Back to the Future. Okay? That’s the way a lot of brilliant people are. But Melania’s genius is the polar opposite. Meticulous, meticulous to the extreme. Think, what was that, The Imitation Game?
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, yeah. Great movie.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right. I want you to think about somebody who sees every detail and just thinks in terms of detail. She has total restraint in everything she does. Now, we speak of Melania’s extreme elegance. Like, you’d almost think she invented the word. When you watch her, she has a whole new definition of elegance. She really is. She’s Audrey Hepburn. It is incredible watching her carry herself around the screen. I’ve never seen such elegance. And the thing is, John, she’s not just elegant when she’s going out to some kind of a big to-do, right? She’s just that way all the time. It doesn’t matter where she is. She always presents herself elegantly.
SPEAKER 17 :
It’s called class.
SPEAKER 16 :
She is the definition of class. She really is. And is she classier than her husband? Yes.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, by far.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
I mean, nothing against old Donald there, but, you know, because he’s usually fairly classy.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, he can be classy, too.
SPEAKER 17 :
But she is like the epitome of class.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and we’re going to get into this in a moment because this is the really interesting thing that you’re seeing in the movie Melania is the difference between the two of them. It’s really something just like on election night. He’s all excited, you know, and she’s almost emotionless.
SPEAKER 17 :
She’s kind of stoic, right? Yes. In that manner.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, she always is.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
And not in a cold way at all.
SPEAKER 17 :
Just her personality, right?
SPEAKER 16 :
In fact, she’s a very warm, kind, caring person, but she is very, very reserved. And anyway, we see that her elegance is born of an extreme attention to detail. Moving from setting to setting, Melania carries herself with such class and restraint, you’d think she’s CGI. Yeah. You really would. You would think that somebody is typing in and controlling all the movements of this person everywhere she goes. But it’s actually her controlling it. Now, many critics of the film, they complain that Melania’s words come off far too scripted. But, John, they’re missing the point. Melania’s entire existence is scripted by her. She says nothing. And this is why she’s very quiet most of the time. Why? She says nothing that she didn’t plan to say. Nothing. I mean, this woman, I have never seen this kind of self-control. This was fascinating. At one point, Melania speaks with a woman who was held by Hamas, all right, and whose husband is being held still. So this woman got away from Hamas, but her husband is still being held. Melania, who controls every detail of her life, spoke of the woman whose circumstances were completely uncontrolled, beyond her control. And Melania, at one point, holds her. And you can tell that Melania… is looking at her as basically in this way, John, I have total control over everything that I ever say, do act everywhere. Every way I am seen, I have total control. And I’m talking right now to a woman who is completely out of control and it’s not her fault. It’s been taken away from her. And you could just see how she cared for this woman and she held her. And we later learned Milani helped get her husband released.
SPEAKER 1 :
All right.
SPEAKER 16 :
Melania believes we control our destiny. And this is one one big factor in the movie. You could just tell throughout it. She believes we control our destiny. And in that way, she’s a conservative. All right. But she’s not political at all. She’s an example for all. Okay, because well, you know what, I’m going to get that that in a moment. What works in Melania? First of all, do you like the sound of it?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. All right, actually do. I mean, honestly, not hearing this. I’m not sure I would have gone. But now that you’re reviewing it, I probably would.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, there’s up and down here, but there’s more up. Okay. First of all, opposites attract. Have you ever noticed this? Oh, yes. You’ve got chaotic brilliance and meticulous brilliance. Two totally 100, not 179, no, 180 degrees opposite personalities in how they let out their brilliance. OK, totally different. She and Donald. And it’s really incredible watching how the two work together. Now, this is quite simply and I want everybody to listen closely. This is the most self-controlled public figure I have ever seen in my 62 years on planet Earth. Spock was a babbling emotional mess compared to Melania Trump. This was fascinating. I have never. I didn’t know. I just thought she was shying to herself.
SPEAKER 17 :
I think she’s very brilliant, calculated, knows exactly what she’s doing woman.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right.
SPEAKER 17 :
Am I right in my description?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes. She was a model coming up. Okay. But not all models are like this. Most are not. Right. But she, to her, all of her.
SPEAKER 17 :
Actually, really quick. Most models are very manipulated by others. Right. Meaning she’s not.
SPEAKER 16 :
She is not. All of her life is on a runway. Right. All of her life is on a runway. It doesn’t matter where she is, John.
SPEAKER 17 :
Interesting.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. We never see Melania out of control. Not even for an instance. She’s kind, fun-loving, but 100% self-controlled. Unlike virtually everyone you’ve ever met. Okay? One critic called Melania a nitpicking overseer. But that’s not how her handlers see her. At one point, they’re interviewing this guy. I assume he’s gay. And he’s working on her dress and so forth. And… He was commenting on how It’s so unusual to work with somebody who totally knows the business, totally understands the business. And when she gives input and details and says, no, I want this done just this way. I want this done just this way. And you’d be amazed at the little details she wants changed.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
He says, we respect it immediately. She’s one of us. We get it. And she gets it.
SPEAKER 17 :
That’s cool.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. Yeah. You’re not just talking to some ditz who says, but I want it more this way. She hasn’t talked in that way. It’s never, but I want.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hmm.
SPEAKER 16 :
It is always, this would work better. In fact, she doesn’t talk about what I want ever from what I see. It doesn’t even occur to her, okay? It is always looking meticulously at her life, at everything about her, and how it would be better. And it’s kind of funny because what is her big statement? Be better, okay? Do better, be better.
SPEAKER 17 :
I like that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. OK. One critic once again called him her an over nitpicker. No, that’s not it. You’re not getting it, man. She is one of them and they relate to her. So a lot of this time you are watching someone talk about dresses and talk about place settings and stuff like this. Pretty boring stuff, right? I mean, just the stuff itself. Yeah. Right. But watching the meticulous nature of this human being is pretty interesting to watch. Now, Barron Trump. This is fascinating. This is fascinating. If you watch this, you’re going to see it. He is a direct blend of his dad’s swagger and social confidence with his mom’s supreme class and restraint. If you could take Melania and Donald and literally combine their personalities into one human being, it would be Barron Trump. And I never noticed that before. And you’re watching him. You’re watching how he how he carries himself. It’s like there’s a war within him in a good way. OK, he is totally restrained, totally controlled like his mom and yet confident and with swagger like his dad. It is just so interesting to watch. And you could tell he came from them. I never thought that before. And now I see it. I really see it. OK, what doesn’t work in Melania? Well. First of all, it’s too stream of consciousness. It’s just kind of going along, going along, going along. While there’s a raw, real feeling to just progressing through three weeks, this lack the emotion of high and low points. Life is just playing out before you. All right. And this is why, you know, for those who wonder, how is Andy going to be biased on this? Well, both ways. First of all, obviously, I’m a mega Republican. I love Trump, but I also hate documentaries. Okay.
SPEAKER 17 :
Which I like. I’m the opposite of you.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, yeah. I know. We’re total opposites when it comes to documentaries. I despise them. I don’t want to see real life. I go to the movies to escape that. Okay, but this was really interesting. But for me, it was two streams of consciousness. One thing I’m going to give Michael Moore, the left-wing nut job, right? I’m going to give him a lot of credit for some of his earlier work. He got crazy later. But he knows how to navigate the highs and lows and to bring emotional punch to various scenes. They don’t really do that here. They simply let it play out.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, next. It needed more humor. All right. Like, I thought it was hilarious when Donald’s calling her about election night. And she’s just like, whatever. And he says, yeah, yeah, we got, you know, all swing states is a landslide. Just that. And the other. She says, oh, that’s a lot. Yes.
SPEAKER 17 :
Good job, Don.
SPEAKER 16 :
That’s that’s very nice. OK. Yeah. And get some eggs.
SPEAKER 17 :
What do they call each other, by the way?
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, gosh.
SPEAKER 17 :
Is there any nicknames or anything, or do they just call each other?
SPEAKER 16 :
He calls her Melania. No, no, no, no, no, no. They don’t do nicknames.
SPEAKER 17 :
So not like M or D or anything like that? No, none of that. DJT or nothing? No, no, no, no. Okay, interesting.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I mean, she’ll even be formal in certain circumstances, Mr. President and that kind of stuff. It’s just, you have to understand, Jacqueline Kennedy was not as classy and restrained as this person. Do you understand what I’m saying here? Okay, Nancy Reagan was not. Okay, Rosalyn Carter, who was also quite restrained, was not. This woman is a totally different level. We’ll get to that in just a moment. It needed more humor. At one point, they’re discussing the food and catering for a major event. John, how could they not mention Trump’s experience at McDonald’s? That would have been hilarious. Okay, I’m sorry, but there had to be a way they could have put that in there.
SPEAKER 17 :
It would have just been… Maybe she’s just not that way.
SPEAKER 16 :
People would have been, I know, but you’ve got other people who can help, you know, contribute and whatever, and maybe pump it up a little bit. They could have had a few funnier moments. They didn’t do it. So it just, once again, becomes a stream of consciousness. I was surprised to see plenty of Usha Vance, but Melania never mentioned her, not once. That was very strange.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hmm.
SPEAKER 16 :
And I don’t mean that in a cold way. It’s just that, well, that was not part of the movie that she was doing. Usha was just there.
SPEAKER 17 :
Gotcha.
SPEAKER 16 :
And yet she was there in several scenes, and she never mentions the Vances, which was rather interesting. There was not enough is made of Melania’s greatest asset, her self-control. i know that’s surprising to you because that’s all i’ve been talking about right but this should have been an inspirational message most people today john they have no self-control okay especially young people and she cares so much about young people and doesn’t want them exposed to the wrong things online this is big with her well young people today especially have no self-control be it online in schools protests sexually they open themselves up to pain everywhere melania trump is an example that of all the self-control that most of us never have, all these people who have New Year’s resolutions right now, and you’re thinking, I can’t control what I eat. This woman, could control anything she eats. Do you see what I’m saying? Yeah. And you know how I always say with conservatism, I’m a conservative because I want to control my own life, not yours. That is Melania Trump. Even though her views, I’m not going to say they’re more left or right, because she does agree with Trump on a number of things. But she wants to have complete, absolute, total control over her, but she does not control other people. Mm-hmm. She’s not controlling at all. She wants them to be free. She wants them to say what they want, live how they want, do what they want. And she is a very freeing person and very caring and loving. At one point, she has this meeting with, I think it was the Queen of Jordan, who, by the way. is the closest thing to Melania in this movie for breathtakingly beautiful. And it was interesting watching these two just knockouts, right? Sitting and talking. Because one thing that’s really striking throughout the movie, even at her age, she’s advanced in years now. And I’m sure she gets some work done or whatever. I have no idea, right? I just assume she’s a model. Melania’s face is breathtaking.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
And it doesn’t matter how close you are to it. It’s really stunning. It’s Audrey Hepburn level. And I always talk about Audrey Hepburn, but folks, just look at some pictures. You’ll know what I mean. It’s really stunning. And anyway, she’s talking to the Queen of Jordan and they’re sitting down having a nice talk. And it’s just interesting. You’re just watching this play out. She’s talking to this world leader. And this queen looks at her instantly as an equal, not because she’s Donald Trump’s wife. OK, but because she is Melania. All right. This is like Madonna only with class. She is the thing.
SPEAKER 03 :
Makes sense.
SPEAKER 16 :
Everywhere she goes, she is that big. And Donald Trump, he dotes on her constantly. He’s a doting husband. And you could tell he doesn’t just adore her because of the way she looks, John. He adores her because she has all the class and self-control that he never does. And I’m not saying he doesn’t have a lot of class. He does. But he does it in different ways. You know him. He’s a joker. He’s an extrovert. Okay? He has great respect. For everything she is that he isn’t. And guess what? I think it’s mutual. I think there are times when I’m sure she wishes he would maybe say a little less, okay? Because that’s the way she is. She’s so self-controlled. But, John?
SPEAKER 17 :
But although that’s that opposite side of things.
SPEAKER 16 :
But you’re never going to see her say it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
She will never betray her husband. She will never say like right now you’ve got Michelle Obama, who, by the way, I thought was a fairly impressive first lady. I did. I know a lot of people hate me for that. I think she’s a mean, vicious.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, I’m one of those. Well, no, no. I had zero respect for her.
SPEAKER 16 :
I think she’s a bigot. I think she’s mean and vicious. But I also think she was very intelligent, okay, in a lot of what she did and very charismatic. However, she has come to the point of becoming very bitter, right, and talking about her time in the White House.
SPEAKER 17 :
Extremely.
SPEAKER 16 :
You will never hear that. She’s a hater. Melania could live to be 500 years old, and you will never hear her say anything that’s not appreciative of her time in the White House. I agree. Too classy for that.
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, shall we jump on in here?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, keep going. You’re fine. We’ll combine breaks, so you’re good. Keep going.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. John Rotten Tomatoes, six percent.
SPEAKER 17 :
I’m sure they hated it. OK, this is anything that’s attached to Donald Trump. They’re going to hate, obviously. Right. And am I saying it that way?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, you’re right. I did read a number of the reviews. And now there were some aspects where I agreed with them. The slow pacing of the first 15 minutes are way too slow. OK, they’re painful. It’s like, OK, come on. You’re making all the reviewers look smart here. Okay. Pick it up. Get it going. Get it going. Once she gets into the stream of consciousness, at least you get to see who she is. I think they should have made more of a point about it because Melania is such a great example, I think, for the generation today. Folks, we all need to have her self-control. That doesn’t mean we have to be just like her and have her personality. But we are out of control. I never knew how out of control I am, how out of control virtually all of us are compared to what we could be. You know, I think about 2 Timothy 1, 7 in the Bible, for God did not give us a spirit of timidity, but a spirit of power, love, and self-control. Okay? We can control our demons.
SPEAKER 03 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 16 :
Much more than we think.
SPEAKER 03 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. This is the biggest variance I’ve ever seen between the audience and the reviewers ever. 93%. Six percent. The audience scores was 99, of course. And I asked a bunch of people coming out. They were all big thumbs up. They loved it. Quality, I’m going to give it three stars. And that is for what? General audiences.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
I think obviously anybody in the left is going to hate it because of their hate for Trump, period. People in the middle, I think, are going to find her to be fascinating, but they’re going to find the pace to be quite slow. And they’re going to see this more as a stream of consciousness, not a supremely entertaining thing, although there are some funny moments. People on the right are going to adore it because it’s her and because it’s him. Political, three and a half. Just a little above average, really. It wasn’t very political, but more religious, I’m going to give it a four.
SPEAKER 17 :
Wow, okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
Very strong.
SPEAKER 17 :
Because of the message.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes. Do I recommend going to Melania? Yes, I do, folks. I think you’re going to enjoy it and drive some liberals nuts.
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SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, and we got, I don’t know, a minute or so left here. Andy, you want anything to finish up there on the review?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, you know, one thing I left out, I’m sorry, the music was excellent. Oh. Really? Yeah. It’s fun watching her sing to Michael Jackson or dance a little behind the scenes to YMCA. She really enjoyed that. And just when she, for a moment, demonstrates, well, she always demonstrates emotion, but it’s so controlled. You know, one thing I always noticed also, John, really quick here. In the movies, when you have somebody who is very, very self-controlled, then when they do show a little emotion, it hits much harder. Have you noticed that?
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 16 :
That’s what it’s like with her. If you have somebody who’s hyper-emotional all the time, it almost doesn’t show.
SPEAKER 17 :
I almost feel like with her, we’ve got a minute here left, but more of a question than anything, I guess, to you, is I’ve always felt like the press doesn’t get her. In fact, they’re very critical of her because of everything you’re saying, and they never are able to catch her off guard, and I think that annoys them. Does that make sense?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes. The press is liberal. Liberal people run on emotion.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, they’re emotional. That’s right. Very emotional.
SPEAKER 16 :
Emotional people generally have no self-control. Okay? Very, very little self-control. And this is why they keep falling apart off screen. I don’t think they can relate to this kind of level of self-control. And to a degree, none of us can. I have never seen anybody like this. And I’m not saying you have to be this way. I mean, you know I love Rush Limbaugh, and he was very effusive. Emotional. Yeah, emotional.
SPEAKER 17 :
Some of that was his shtick on… It was totally his shtick. He had to, his shtick on air, because that’s what generated followers and so on.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right, and everybody would say, even people on the left, if they met him in person, how soft and kind and generous he was. And by the way, they say the same of Donald Trump. But Donald Trump is so… He’s a little boy. And this is why, you know, we love him because he’s a little boy. By the way, the left has theirs, Bernie Sanders. He’s a million years old and he’s a little boy. Okay. And he’s a little boy and it’s almost like Melania is the adult. But he is a powerful, commanding man.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. Thank you, Andy. That was great. And for those of you that want to go see that, it’s at a theater near you and will be on Amazon Prime in the not-too-distant future as well because I think they’re the ones that actually did this documentary.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right.
SPEAKER 17 :
So we’ll be back. Hour number two is next. We’re going to come back. For those of you that want to listen, we’re going to talk to you about how to speak to young people when it comes to the ongoing events in our country today. We’ll do that here in just a moment. Don’t go anywhere. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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