This hour of Drive Radio was a fun ride through the past and present of the automotive world. The crew opened up the phone lines and asked listeners to name features that used to be common on cars but have mostly disappeared today. That sparked a flood of great memories, from motorized seatbelts, hand-crank windows, and curb feelers to bench seats, vent windows, rear-facing station wagon seats, cigarette lighters, power antennas, and even old record players built into dashboards.
Listeners brought some hilarious stories too, including one about a motorized seatbelt smashing an ice cream cone into a passenger’s chest
SPEAKER 07 :
Being an expert on general automotive knowledge, what would the correct ignition timing be on a 1955 Bel Air Chevrolet with a 327 cubic inch engine and a four-barrel carburetor?
SPEAKER 17 :
It is a trick question. Watch this. Because Chevy didn’t make a 327 in 55. The 327 didn’t come out until 62. And it wasn’t offered in the Bel Air with a four-barrel carb until 64. However, in 1964, the correct ignition timing would be four degrees before top dead center. Whoa!
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SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, we are back. Hour number two. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Myself, Pat Schneid, Alltech Automotive. And our question of the day is, give me something that used to be very popular on cars that is no longer, in some cases, may not even be around, period. So let me name a few because I’ve got a huge list. And the last one that came in, I totally forgot about, actually. Motorized seatbelts. Really? Remember those?
SPEAKER 05 :
I do not remember those.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, yeah. There was a lot of vehicles where the shoulder belt itself was motorized and you’d get in the car and it would be like, it would go back. Huh.
SPEAKER 05 :
I guess. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I remember cars before there were shoulder belts, so I just kind of missed the whole motorized thing.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There’s motorized. Somebody also said eight track players. Yeah. Oh, good one. That’s a good one. Hand windshield wipers. Yeah, there was a lot of vehicles back in the day, especially on the passenger side, that they were not motorized. They were a hand… If you wanted to see out as a passenger, you did your own thing there.
SPEAKER 05 :
You had to wipe it.
SPEAKER 12 :
That’s kind of the vintage of the rumble seat, isn’t it? About the same time? Well, a lot of the Jeeps even… Oh, there you go. …had the passenger side manual wiper for a long time. All the way up into the 60s even. And then they started to become… In fact, back in the day, I… When I had my shops, I used to sell a conversion kit for those where you could put a motorized wiper on that side. Oh, very cool. In fact, some of the driver’s side, even way back, had hand crank where you would then put a motorized unit on. It was a big motor with a long shaft, and there was a conversion kit. I used to sell a gazillion of those back in the day because it was very popular on the Jeeps to have hand crank. Bench seats, we talked about that one already. Carburetors. Yeah, uh-huh. Yeah, that used to be in all cars.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, that’s a good one.
SPEAKER 12 :
And there is not any now that I know of. I don’t know of a single vehicle made today with a carburetor at all. Another one that was a good one, too, which this goes along with the carburetor, a choke cable or a choke pole. Oh, for sure, yeah. Back in the day. And then, of course, vinyl roofs.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh.
SPEAKER 12 :
That was very popular back in the day.
SPEAKER 01 :
Very popular.
SPEAKER 12 :
I don’t know why. I still, to this day, can’t figure out that one. There was one vehicle. Charlie said, was there a full-down record player? Yes, there was a, I believe, a Chrysler product that came with a record player option. Like a vinyl record player. Yeah, you put records in. That’s crazy. And you can look it up. Yes, they had an actual vinyl record player. How could you play that when you’re rolling? It had all these springs and everything. Well, they didn’t work very well. They didn’t last long, but they had this… bouncy you know mechanism where things could still vibrate and such and not have the needle skip and all of that back in the day and i i’ve never seen one in person i’ve never seen one pictures and videos and so on but i’ve never ever seen one actually in person actually the predecessor to the eight track player yeah that would have been yeah that’s right that would have been a because people forget that eight tracks were first right and then cassettes came afterwards The Highway Hi-Fi is what Charlie just said they called that. The Highway Hi-Fi. So there you go. And here’s one, too. Now, this one I totally forgot about as well. And I used to install these. That’s how old I am. I used to install these curb feelers. Oh, sure. Yep. Back in the day. Now we’ve got cameras and parking aids and all kind of stuff that people have on vehicles. But, yeah, back in the day, you had curb feelers. You knew how close to the curb you were.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, we talked about these a month or so ago. There’s not really any place you could attach a curb feeler on today’s cars. The body’s styling doesn’t lend itself to that anymore.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, yeah, yeah. It used to be you’d put those right on the front edge or back. Usually it was the front edge on the front, and people would even put them on the back on other vehicles as well. So anyways, that was an interesting thing. Oh, man, the worst thing about those is if you were wearing short pants, you know, shorts, and you’d somehow rub up against one of those stupid curb feelers, man, they’d tear your legs up like no stinking tomorrow. I hated those. All right, Jim and Cal, so Rock, go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, John, I’ve got a funny story about motorized seatbelts. I had a 91 Honda Accord, and a buddy of mine refused to wear a seatbelt, right? So we go to lunch one day over at Jason’s Deli, and at the end of the day, at the end of the lunch, you get a free ice cream cone. We go out and sit in the car to ride back to work. He’s got his ice cream cone in his hand. The motorized seatbelt shoulder belt comes up, mashes the ice cream cone right in his chest.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, that’s a great one. That’s hilarious. Yeah. So I because I remember there weren’t a lot of cars that had those there. And it was for all you listening. There was American cars and Asian cars, to your point, Jim, that had that. I don’t think somebody can correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think there was any European cars that had that, Jim.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I don’t know, but that Honda Accord, I still get a million laughs out of that. That is hilarious. We talk about it frequently.
SPEAKER 12 :
That is hilarious, actually. Well, because if you weren’t paying attention, because that’s exactly what they did. I can remember people back in the day trying to unhook those things because they were, I don’t know whose idea that was, but they were a pain in the neck. Yep.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, you guys have a great day.
SPEAKER 12 :
You do the same, Jim. By the way, that’s a great story. That is a great story. So good job on that. I appreciate that. That question of the day. Again, give us something that used to be common on vehicles that is not any longer. Now, here’s another one, and I don’t think you can even buy, even for us on the fleet side with trucks, I think the last truck we bought with hand crank windows was has been probably a decade or so ago. I think you’re right. It used to be you could buy some work trucks and they would have hand crank windows and stuff, but now all the work trucks even have power windows now. Yeah, I think you’re right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Very common. Which is too bad because I love the hand crank windows, but yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Thing of the past.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep, thing of the past.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, somebody, Charlie just said cigarette lighters and the ashtrays. We talked about ashtrays a few minutes ago, but yeah, the cigarette, the push-in cigarette lighters, which, okay, we probably shouldn’t say this, but how many of you had, especially a boy sibling, I would never have done this to my sister, but how many of you had boy siblings? where when mom and dad were somewhere and they left you in the car alone yep did you get the cigarette lighter and try to burn each other with it of course oh my gosh yeah yeah many good fights and you have all these fights and then you’d be really quiet when mom and dad were coming back to the car and then my my sure shoot my dad especially he’d be like which one of you was messing with a cigarette lighter yeah yeah and you’d be like you’d look at each other like how did he know that
SPEAKER 05 :
In our case, we were fighting on the bench seat and then climbing over the bench seat to the back seat. Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
But, no, we had cigarette lighter fights back in the day, so that’s what my brother and I would do when my folks would leave us in the car alone. John and Cheyenne, go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, that’s good, John. I didn’t think about the cigarette lighter fight. I had sisters, so.
SPEAKER 05 :
One brother, we would fight with that stupid thing at times. You were too kind, John.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. So everything that people have called in about, you described on my 80 Chevy.
SPEAKER 12 :
Nice. Ah, good job.
SPEAKER 08 :
My plow truck, the vent windows, the dimmer on the floor, the carburetor, all that fun stuff.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s a great truck you’ve got there.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, this thing, if you looked at it, you’d say, I can’t believe that thing runs, but it pushes snow like nobody’s business.
SPEAKER 05 :
Is it a K20 or a K30, or what have you got?
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s, yeah, it’s the three-quarter ton.
SPEAKER 05 :
Three-quarter ton, yeah, nice.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, regular cab, long bed, blade on the front.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 08 :
And can push no lights, nobody’s business.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s awesome. They don’t make them like that anymore.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, gosh. You made me laugh, and now I forgot. Oh, here’s the other thing that you don’t see anymore in cars. You said the bench seat.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
But the other thing is the, The third row in the station wagon that face back.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, yeah. Oh, that’s a really good one. Yeah, I’m guessing that wouldn’t pass safety standards today. I think you’re right.
SPEAKER 08 :
You think? Well, how many kids? even if their parents had that back seat, would leave it down and they would just lay in the back. Oh, all of us.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right. Hardly anybody rode in that seat. We all just laid down back there. You’d throw a quilt or a blanket back there and you just rode. Yeah, there was a lot more room then.
SPEAKER 08 :
And make faces at the car behind you.
SPEAKER 12 :
Heck, John, back in the day, cars also had what we call package trays, which is where you would either put packages or my brother would sleep. Yep. Up behind the rear seat.
SPEAKER 08 :
I remember… I remember I learned to drive on my mother’s, and I took my road test, 73 Impala, which was not a small car by any means. And I could parallel park that thing like nobody did.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
That’s awesome. That is good. But those are the things that you miss, though. What was the other one? Oh, when they first, the cars that you had to put an auxiliary air conditioner in.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, yeah. Oh, sure. Yeah. Aftermarket. Very common.
SPEAKER 08 :
Didn’t come with air conditioning.
SPEAKER 05 :
Very common.
SPEAKER 08 :
And, John, the Army, until they got rid of the Jeep, had the manual wipers. Yep.
SPEAKER 12 :
There you go.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep. Very common. Yeah. And these guys never let an infantryman operate any equipment because they will break it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Even that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, they would break that. Hey, I broke the handle off on the wiper.
SPEAKER 12 :
That’s hilarious.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, where is it? oh i threw it out i’m like i could have fixed that you’re you know and you just shake your head and walk away and go to the supply until we got rid of the jeeps but the old army jeeps were indestructible i swear you couldn’t break those things unless you really really tried but uh You don’t see them running around anymore. You used to occasionally see somebody would have one out on the road. They’d do what they had to do to make it legal and run around. I wouldn’t mind getting my hands on one because if you had the right tires on those things, they would go through just about anything.
SPEAKER 05 :
You’re right.
SPEAKER 08 :
And it would be nice out here at the house when I don’t want to plow snow to have something that was— like that to get through the snow.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, like you say, they had the military, like the tall skinny tires, right? They would just cut right through the snow. Yep.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
And mud and everything.
SPEAKER 12 :
Everything else, that’s right.
SPEAKER 08 :
But the worst thing I ever saw was an infantry crew get an M113, which is the old box armored personnel carrier, stuck in a mud hole where you could step from the side of the road onto the top of the track. That’s how deep it was. Wow.
SPEAKER 05 :
Wow. That’s really stuck. Yeah, it is.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, it took the big 88s. It took two of them to get it out because of the suction.
SPEAKER 12 :
I was going to say just the suction. Yeah, makes sense.
SPEAKER 08 :
We had one up on the spade pulling it, and it just wouldn’t pull. And it started, even with the 88 being up on the spade to lock it in, it started sliding. So we had to get a second one to use as a brake vehicle.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 08 :
That was fun. The best one, though, was watching the crew have to wade into the mud to hook the tow cable up to it.
SPEAKER 05 :
I was going to say, nobody’s coming home with clean clothes on that day. Nobody.
SPEAKER 08 :
No. And they were like, well, that’s a mechanic’s job to put the tow cable on. I said, nope, not a mechanic’s job.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s hilarious. That’s a crew job. I was going to say, whoever was driving the truck and got it stuck, that’s their job.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, well, yeah, the driver… said that his crew chief, who was sitting up out of the hatch, told him to go that way.
SPEAKER 05 :
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER 08 :
And he, you know, that private that drove it in there was playing that game. Oh, the sergeant told me to do it. Pat, good talking to you. Oh, by the way, my wife’s truck’s running perfect.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hey, thank you, John. I appreciate the mention.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. You guys have a good one. We’ll do it. You too, sir.
SPEAKER 12 :
John, appreciate you very much. Yep. Have a great rest of your day. We appreciate it. And let’s do this. We’ll take a break. We’ll come back. I got a lot more question of the day answers from the text line as well. We’ll come right back. Drive Radio KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 12 :
And we are back. Drive Radio KLZ 560. Okay, got a few more questions that we’re going to do a car review here in just one moment. But before we do that, let me throw a few more of these at. So we already did the cigarette lighter. Column shifter. So stick shift column shifter. I haven’t seen those. Like a three on the tree.
SPEAKER 01 :
Three on the tree.
SPEAKER 12 :
I haven’t seen those in a long time. Those were so fun. I can’t remember when the last one of those probably would have been. That’s going way back. Push button, transmission selector. Now, here’s what’s interesting. There is now that coming back on some vehicles. So that’s one that you almost can’t count because I get it. The way that was done back in the day was different than today. But there’s a lot of vehicles today. A new Lincoln Navigator, for example, it has a push button. They’re back. Yeah. So they actually are back.
SPEAKER 05 :
I want to say Chrysler and Ford, they’ve loved those for a long time, which I don’t really understand why. I don’t like them. I don’t like them either. I like the lever. But they’re back.
SPEAKER 12 :
They are back. Well, it frees up console space in a lot of cases where they’re doing it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Sorry, the push button we already got. Outside door locks, not the ones like you think of today that are maybe in the handle and so on, but the old in the door, the round. Separate from the handle. Separate from everything else. And those were really easy to break into. And I love those because they’re a piece of cake to Slim Jim and off you’d go. Power antennas. And somebody mentioned that not only the power antenna, but you hoped when it failed. it was already up so you could just disconnect it but they would go the motorized antennas for those of you again some of you that are that are younger have no idea what we’re talking about but yeah they would have a motorized yeah uh antenna you’d hear that thing you know you turn the key on and and what was funny is it would start to go up as soon as you turn the key on but then when you went to start it it would stop yep and then when you you know let off of the crank position it would continue to go back up they were and they were just pieces of junk oh they were terrible they had this stupid little like teflon wire that literally spooled around a motor and that’s what made the antenna go up and down and they were absolute garbage they were junk i can’t tell you how many of those i replaced back in the day for sure and again the cars my dad drove uh he for some reason the old wheels cadillacs they all had them yeah Somebody said full-size spare. Yeah, you know, spare tires, period, unless you’re driving like an SUV or a truck or whatever. Again, that’s another one where cars, yes. Believe it or not, a lot of the trucks, they still have full-size spares and stuff underneath them. That’s not uncommon on those vehicles.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
It is on smaller vehicles, SUVs and so on. But you get a full-size truck, Jeep, whatever, yeah, it’ll still have a full-size spare.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and some vehicles now that are all-wheel drive or sporty or smaller cars don’t have any spare at all.
SPEAKER 12 :
None. Zero. There is no spare tire. Right. Charlie mentioned this one. Wood grain paneling on the sides. And whoever thought that was a good idea. Ugly, awful. They were terrible. Now, this one I had forgotten completely about. And Pat had to remind me where these were, but Kleenex boxes. So a place for Kleenex boxes is what I should say. Right. And they were in the console typically, and I forgot all about those. And people would use them. Which, by the way, that one, it’s like, why can’t you add that one back in now? But they don’t do that. They don’t. The Wonder Bar radios, of course, rust-proofing your vehicle. Yeah, that was a common dealership upgrade back in the day was to actually undercoat or rust-proof, quote-unquote, the underside of your vehicle. Now they’ve got enough of that, I think, built in, and we’re using different metals and alloys and so on, so it’s a lot better than it used to be. Although there are still some cars that you look underneath and… And Pat would know this. They still have rust.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, you were talking about it from the dealership level. Still an add-on item. If anybody does it, it’s a high-profit item. Yes, very much so.
SPEAKER 12 :
All right, we’ve got a car review coming up. I drove a Toyota Supra here of late. Listen in. We’ll be right back right after this review. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. That time where we do car reviews, so really the drive radio slash Rush to Reason portion of our program. And I, you didn’t have much of a chance to drive this particular car, but I drove and am in right now. Should be out of here in a day, but I’m going to go ahead and review it. 2026 Toyota GR. Supra, that’s the 3.0 liter engine, and it’s 382 horsepower. It’s a turbocharged inline six. It’s based upon the BMW M2 platform. In fact, there’s a lot of BMW things in this car. It’s a partnership, you could say, between Toyota and BMW. Although, if you look at some of the other reviews out there, Richard, they’ll talk about how The Supra is much more affordable than the BMW. It’s a little bit lighter. It packs a lot in. No, it’s not quite as much horsepower-wise as what the M2 is. But at the end of the day, it actually has a little bit less tech, which actually makes the car a little bit more probably easier to drive and enjoy. And I will tell you what, right out of the box, I have three. thoroughly enjoy driving this car for the week it’s a two-seater for those of you listening so there is no back seat which makes it a little bit more cumbersome if you’ve got you know more people or gear or whatever you want to uh you know you want to tow it around although lots of luggage space in the trunk area it’s a hatchback and there’s lots of luggage space there and at the end of the day richard it is a it is a blast to drive it really is
SPEAKER 10 :
yeah this is your definition of a coupe dad right this is not a you know it’s a driver’s car it’s i kind of i called it your little go-kart for the week but it’s a lot more fun than a go-kart goes a lot faster and like you say kind of why i had to give it to you is i’m on kid duty and so i tend to not have the ability to to you know i’ve got to have at least more than one extra seat right and it’s not an indictment on the car it’s just just know that when you’re buying it and there’s lots of fun cars dad in fact You own cars that way that are really fun to drive, and that kind of makes it a driver’s car, right? A really fun two-seater, and you kind of hit the nail on the head. Sometimes, especially in a driver’s car, or it makes it a driver’s car, is less tech. And from what I, obviously, my experience with the Supras, they’ve done just that, and it’s just a really fun car. I think that one of my favorite features of the car is just how it looks. It’s a beautiful car.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I do like… Thank you. I agree with you saying that, Richard. And one thing that I would say for anybody looking at this car versus its BMW sister… I actually like the Toyota look better than the BMW look. It’s got more flair to it, I guess, is probably the best way for me to say that. And I simply like the way the Toyota looks better. And again, it’s considerably less money. Now, this car sitting at, as I drove it… This particular car is around $70,000 and some change, so it’s not cheap. Although, when you start looking at two-seater sports cars, Richard, at the end of the day, not a bad price for a very well-performing, and I mean very well. I mean, this car flat gets with it. It’s got a sport mode. You hit a button on the console, and the exhaust opens up, and I will tell you what, it is a blast to drive.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I was just going to say that, Ed, and on the looks of it, it’s unique in its own way. However, it’s not so unique that you’re just blown away by it in a bad way going down the road. And what I mean by that is you’re not so flashy that you feel like you can’t take this car out on just an average day. They’ve really made this car subtle. They have. It’s attractive that way. So there’s just some different features about it. I know everyone wanted them to bring back the Supra, right? And Toyota did, obviously kind of in combination with BMW. Either way, Dad, I’m just glad we have a Supra. This car is phenomenal. And especially at our altitude, Dad, with how it drives, with how they’ve tuned that turbo, if I recall correctly, this car just seems to want more, right? It doesn’t seem like you can give it enough. It just seems like it always wants to go, go, go, go, go.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, it’s a great car. And again, as I’ve read some of the other reviews that are on it, they’re all pretty much spot on. Handling is great. The car accelerates awesome. At sea level, it’s a 3.9 second, 0 to 60 time. Again, 382 horsepower, 368 foot pound of torque. I find the tech and everything, but probably the only complaint on the interior… that I’ve got, and I keep saying I need a can opener to get in and out of it. That’s true with all low sports cars, and I own some of them, so it’s not a big deal to me. I learned how to get in and out of them, so it’s not a big issue. The one thing, though, on this car, and Toyota, you’ll hear this, I would like the center stack screen to be larger. Now, I know that might take away from some other things, and it might not be quite as aesthetically pleasing, but I find that especially when you’re using CarPlay, everything is minimized and a little smaller. I can still read it, see it, and all of that, but I guess maybe because I’m so used to the bigger screens, I wish the screen was bigger.
SPEAKER 10 :
And I can definitely see your point. I think their goal is to maybe minimize some of the distractions, right? Because some of these infotainment systems… can be distracting but like you said outside of that i i don’t know if there’s a whole lot to complain and again some people are going to complain about the size folks if you are i’ll be honest if you’re much over six foot dad this is going to be a little bit difficult to car especially with no back seat correct your seat adjustment range is a little bit more limited than someone or a vehicle that does have a backseat right but is that a turn off on the car i don’t think so it’s just something to be expected of it this car is meant to sit low to the ground it’s meant to handle well and it’s just meant to be a really fun car that you can kind of get in and drive on a weekend and i don’t know just have a good time and whether it be with your friends or your family
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, no, it’s a great car. Again, for those of you interested in a really nice sports car, again, this is something where you can’t have a big family. It’s a two-seater, much like a lot of other two-seat cars are, Corvette and so on. And does this car compete well in that particular race? Yeah, it does. Again, it’s a very, very fun car to drive, but it’s not so aggressive you can’t drive the car daily. I have been. It works very, very well. 2026 Toyota GR Supra. It’s the 3-liter turbocharged engine. You can check that out at your local Toyota dealer. I will tell you this really quick. They’ve not been super strong in sales. This is a car you probably can go in and make a fairly decent deal on. Do your best. See what you can do. If there’s one to test drive, do that as well. Make sure when you go into a Toyota dealer to drive one, you tell them John and Richard Rush both from Drive Radio and Rush to Reason sent you.
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SPEAKER 12 :
And we’re back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Thanks for joining us. And Pat Schneidt with us from Alltech Automotive up in Fort Collins. Of course, Larry Unger answering phones for us today. Charlie Grimes, our engineer. Lines are open, 303-477-5600. 303-477-5600. Any car question you have, by all means, let us know. Buying, selling. We had a great question earlier even on if you’re at the dealership, and I want to go over this again. I want to spend just a teeny bit of time here because we were sort of – I don’t want to say rushed, but I wanted to spend a little more time on this topic. And I’ve done entire Drive Radio, the extra mile hour. I’ve done a full hour on this topic. So you can always go back into the archives on Drive Radio’s website, drive-radio.com. And you can look for the extra mile button, click that, and all of our previous episodes are there. And I’ve done a complete show dedicated to this. Since we’re already on that topic and this is the time of the year where a lot of people will be shopping, looking for cars and so on. And I’m sorry for you guys that work at the dealerships. I’m sorry. This is me. This is not against anybody. I’m here to help you, the listener. And while I admire dealerships and they have to be there to sell and service new cars, part of the franchise agreements and so on, and I get that fully. I fully understand that. And this is nothing against you guys on the dealer level at all. And I know you’re there to make money. I get that. But for you guys that are listeners, when you start looking at the deal and they start adding in all of their stuff, like I told you, I saw a deal sheet last night where it had paint protection and theft protection. Both of those combined an additional $1,500. I’m sorry to say, that dealership probably doesn’t have $150 in. Right. So they’re making a solid $1,350 in profit on that deal on top of what they’re already making in profit on the car. This is a used car, by the way, that I saw last night. So typically, most dealerships, they’re making anywhere from $2,500 to… $4,500 on a used car, depending upon the car and so on, that’s typical for the gross profit numbers on a used car at a dealership. Believe it or not, they make more money on used cars than they do new cars. Most people don’t know that, but they do. And by the way, and that’s fine, because in a lot of cases, the dealership’s using their own money, not always, but in a lot of cases, they’re using their own money to actually buy that used car, sell it, and so on. So I understand they need to make profit on the money they’ve got and so on, but this is just what I’m going through and how this works. As I said earlier to our caller at that time, have your own financing arranged. Whether you use it or not doesn’t matter, but have it as a bargaining chip. What I mean by that is what kind of a rate with your credit score and your credit worthiness can you get in the open market? And that should be a gauge that you can use at that dealership. So for in other words, if you know. I or Pat, we’re going to go out and buy a car and we can go get financed out on the open market at, you know, seven percent interest. And we can do that for a 60 month loan. Then you walk into the dealership and say, listen, I’m already approved. I’ve got I’ve got seven percent financing for 60 months already that I can do. So either you beat, you know, match or beat that or I’m going to go, you know, I’m going to go shop elsewhere or I’ll do the financing there. One or the other. And that’s how you do that. Now, it’s kind of a cash deal at that point. You’re typically not going to maybe get quite the deal on the car. But here’s the thing. You’re going to work the price of the car with financing on the front side. Then you say, listen, I’ve already got financing for X. Can you match this? And if not, then go with your original deal. They’ve already given you the price of the car, so you’ve already got that all figured out. And then, again, as I said earlier, no add-ons at all. If they’re wanting to add on anything, From window tint to pinstriping to this, that, or the other, theft protection, on down the line we go. It’s an automatic no, and if they won’t take it off, leave and go buy a car somewhere else. As I always say, there’s other cars out there. That is not the only car in existence. Trust me when I say that. Right. Especially when it comes to daily driver type cars. Now, if you’re buying some exotic car, that’s a whole other situation, and you’re a different buyer anyways, and I’m not talking to you. We’re talking about people that go and buy regular daily driver cars. No add-ons at all. You can go buy another car someplace else that won’t have that if need be. So no add-ons whatsoever. Nick in Arvada, go ahead. Hi, John. Hey, Nick. How goes it? We’re good. How are you?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I’m real good. That’s maybe getting some kind of tropical disease here with Colorado turning into Amazon, but other than that. Yeah, I have three things that I don’t know if… Anybody else would mention them. Biggest one was, and I’ve only seen this once. I’ve gone to a lot of car shows over the years. And there was this older gentleman. He owned two little Kaiser sports cars. And they both, you know, there were two doors, of course, because they were roadsters. And they both had sliding doors instead of hinged doors. I thought that was crazy. You know, he said, well, for the most part, it worked pretty well. Probably didn’t seal up quite as well as the hinged technology, you know. Right. But it’s a sports car, so he probably weren’t out and driving reins, and he definitely weren’t out in blizzards. So, you know, it served a purpose, I guess. But I thought that was pretty innovative. And then the other two, maybe some of the guys have mentioned the – mopar and i think mercury also had the push button transmissions yes yes mention that one yes yep they did okay that’s that’s uh crazy i’d seen uh i think i’d seen maybe two late 50s like a dodge cornet with the with it it shows and i I’ve never seen, but I think I’ve seen pictures of Mercs having push-butt transmission.
SPEAKER 12 :
It was popular on the Chrysler side as well.
SPEAKER 05 :
It was, yep, for sure.
SPEAKER 12 :
And as we said earlier, Nick, they’ve come back. They’re actually popular again in certain vehicles.
SPEAKER 09 :
That’s crazy. I don’t know. I guess, well, yeah, I guess with electronics. My newest car has got, of course, an electronic transmission. break, safety break. Correct. So maybe, yeah, maybe that’s with modern upgrades, that’s feasible. The last thing, and probably somebody mentioned, was the 50s version of trying to AC, and that’s the window hang.
SPEAKER 12 :
Nope, nobody mentioned that one. You’re in on that one. Yes. The icebox. Basically, yes. It was like a swamp cooler.
SPEAKER 09 :
bingo yeah it’s uh i talked a few guys that shows that had them they weren’t still functional but they said uh depending on where your car was you know you you put water in a reservoir but if say you’re on if you’re on well water and that water was had heavy iron or say it had a lot of saline salt to the to your to your well They would, just like an actual house swamp cooler, they would salt up and get coated. That’s right. And, you know, eventually seal up and, you know, kill the— You’re correct. What efficiency there was to them, you know. But those were a few—I guess they were pretty innovative for the time, you know, and it was an attempt to help with a comfort feature on those cars. Mm-hmm. You’re right. Yeah, those are the things I thought of. And if you ever get a chance to see, I don’t recall the model, the Kaiser, but it was their little roadster sports car. And with the sliding doors, it was kind of crazy. And this guy had a pair of them. And I’ve just seen him once at any car shows and never since. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, just check the Internet. It said it was a 1954 Kaiser Darin. D-A-R-I-N.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, that’s it. Yep, you’re right. And they’re just kind of a Brit-looking little roadster. And I don’t believe there’s anything else that he told me that was unique on them or, you know, not anything super innovative. But I thought those were kind of a… You know, a nice touch, I guess.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep, yep. Kind of sporty.
SPEAKER 09 :
But, yeah, yeah. So that’s all I had. I’ll always love you guys’ show.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, appreciate you very much, Nick. Thank you. And let’s do this. Alan, I’m going to give you plenty of time this way. We’ll take a break. We’ll come right back, take your question on timing chain. We’ve got a couple lines open. 303-477-5600. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 12 :
And we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Myself, Pat Schneid. Okay, Al in Denver, you are next. Go ahead, Al.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yes, how are you doing, John?
SPEAKER 12 :
Good, Al.
SPEAKER 21 :
See, I have a, it’s an 06 Scion Xbox, and I know it has a chain. Do I have to change that? It’s got 77, 84, 777 on it.
SPEAKER 1 :
84,000?
SPEAKER 21 :
You’re not at a point now where it needs done? No, you’re fine? I’m fine with it.
SPEAKER 12 :
You’re fine right now, absolutely.
SPEAKER 21 :
Does that need to be changed at any point?
SPEAKER 12 :
I’m trying to look that up. I’m guessing you’re going to be up in the 120-ish range, which how many miles a year do you put on, Al?
SPEAKER 21 :
Oh, geez. Maybe 500 a year, six.
SPEAKER 12 :
You probably will never have to. I mean, what I’m reading on that particular chain, it’s up to 200,000. Nice. So you will never put one in it.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, hell, I’ll be dead before that.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, you’ll never mess with it. Well, I think you need to get in that car and drive it to Las Vegas. There you go.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, not at my age, I’ll tell you.
SPEAKER 12 :
There you go.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, I’m already 90, so I don’t have to worry about it.
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean, again, I think even minimum of what I’m reading, Al, on that particular vehicle, 150, you’ve got a long way to go. You’re not even halfway there yet. Yeah, you’ve got a very reliable motor there.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah. Well, I’ll tell you what, it’s good on gas. And it’ll run like hell.
SPEAKER 05 :
There you go.
SPEAKER 21 :
Because I drove it from California to here when my brother gave it to me.
SPEAKER 05 :
Heck yeah.
SPEAKER 21 :
No problem. No problem whatsoever. That’s awesome. And a lot of room. I love it.
SPEAKER 05 :
A lot of room. I was going to say, a very practical car. Yep.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yes, it is. I’ve had a lot of people ask me if I want to sell it, but… I said, well, my son can sell it when I die.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, and the reason they’re asking is because you can’t buy a car like that anymore. That’s right.
SPEAKER 21 :
Oh, for sure. Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
All right, John, I appreciate it. No, thank you, Al. I appreciate it greatly as well. Yeah, no, that’s a vehicle that you just keep driving it and enjoying it, and you’re not going to have to mess with that much at all. All right, let me get the question of the day. Hang on. I won’t give Rob enough time. I’ll come back and do that afterwards. Rob, go ahead. You’re up next.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hello. The drain charge indicator.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, that’s one of the most useful things to a starting driver. That Dodge Dart that had a 70-year-old Dodge Swinger taught me more about driving. Because you realize how little you charge, you’re actually putting on that engine battery when you’re driving.
SPEAKER 22 :
Right, right.
SPEAKER 11 :
You can see it flicking and flickering when the turn signals are running. You can see it picking up when you accelerate and so forth. It’s really quite a useful tool. I haven’t seen it on a modern car ever.
SPEAKER 12 :
No.
SPEAKER 11 :
No. This is an interesting situation. I got an offer for my credit card that I would get $25 back on a $75 purchase at Napa. So I’m thinking, well, I don’t know if there are any parts in here at the moment, so what should I get there at Napa that I can’t get anywhere else for a good price? And it occurred to me to go down and… I went to the one in Holly. They closed the one in Broadway and Middleton. That was a big blow to us, because those were my favorites. I could get down there very easily, but that’s all gone. Anyway, and I just bought three cans of MLA and three cans of VPR. Nice. You can’t order the in-app. I’ve never been able to find the BG stuff advertised online from Napa. No, they don’t. For some reason, they never put it up on the website.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, they don’t do online. And for those of you listening, if you find it online, it’s typically counterfeit, stolen, something along those lines because they don’t sell online. That’s just the BG distribution model.
SPEAKER 11 :
People go make a rip-off product, too. And I’m not putting any chemical. I don’t know where it came from. No, me neither. Thank you very much.
SPEAKER 12 :
Me neither, Rob.
SPEAKER 11 :
Great point. If you take advantage of such things, and they even keep the BG stuff in the back shoe room area. They don’t put it out in front where people can grab it and pocket it.
SPEAKER 22 :
Right.
SPEAKER 11 :
So if you ever get a coupon on the map, a walk-in coupon or something you can use for a walk-in, get BG because that’s the one chance you’re going to get a discount on it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Nice.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s what I got.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, that’s a good tip. Awesome. Rob, no, appreciate it. Thank you very much. Yeah, thanks for calling. Yeah, question of the day, a couple more. The station wagons and other cars, actually, SUVs and so on, they had the spoiler up above the window in the back to keep the back window dust-free. It’s like an air deflector. Yeah, and they actually worked really well back in the day. You could either get them from the factory or there was a lot of aftermarket suppliers that made those. As well. Somebody said manual radio, and for a lot of you young people listening, yes, the old manual radio is the way you set the station memory where you pushed it in is you pulled, you found the station you wanted, and you pulled that particular button out, I guess the best way to say it, wherever you wanted that selection to be, and then you pushed it back in, and hopefully nothing moved when you did it. Otherwise, you’d do it again. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
So that radio was actually an analog, right, not digital. That’s right. So you tuned it with a knob on the right side, and then you pulled the button and then pushed it to reset it, and if you weren’t careful, you bumped it. And you did it again. Yeah, you programmed a non-setting.
SPEAKER 12 :
That’s exactly right. Sharpie, you’re next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, how you guys doing?
SPEAKER 12 :
Good, Sharpie. How are you?
SPEAKER 04 :
Good. Hey, I’ve got a quick question for you. Sure. I’ve got a 2015 Chevy Colorado 4×4. It’s a… It’s the V6. Yep.
SPEAKER 22 :
Nice.
SPEAKER 04 :
And lately, when I go to put it into park and turn the key off. It won’t let the key shut completely off to where I can pull the key.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
So I’m thinking it’s a switch or a solenoid somewhere. Do you know anything about that?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes, that’s exactly what it has, and it’ll be used. That one is going to be down in the console area, and it’s called the interconnect. I think I’m saying that right? Yeah. And there’s something not communicating correctly, or that interconnect’s just going bad. Sharpie, one of the two.
SPEAKER 05 :
You’re saying there’s a connection in the console that’s going to affect the key in the column.
SPEAKER 12 :
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER 05 :
Interesting. Okay. I’m not aware.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. So it is in the console then?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah. What’s happening is most likely it doesn’t know it’s going into park, meaning since it doesn’t know it’s in park, it will not let the key release. Makes sense.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, because sometimes I’ll have to do it a couple of times and it’ll finally release, you know?
SPEAKER 12 :
That was, I don’t want to say it was super common on those trucks, but it’s common enough that I know exactly what you’re talking about and what it does, so yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, so I’ll look in the console. So when you put the shifter straight up, does it hit like that? When I pull this apart, is there a switch right up in the top?
SPEAKER 12 :
You’ll see it. It’s a mechanism. Probably the best way for me is an electronic mechanism. You’ll see it. You can’t miss it, Sharpie.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. Well, hey, I appreciate it, you guys.
SPEAKER 12 :
You bet. You bet. I appreciate you as well. Thank you, Sharpie. I mean that sincerely. Dennis is next. Go ahead, Dennis.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hey, John. How are you guys doing? Good. How are you? Good. Hey, you were talking last week about… an additive to clean a diesel with a DPF up.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right. BG has a two-step system, basically, that a shop uses to do that, yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
Is that safe for non-DPF trucks?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, but it’s strictly for the exhaust side of it, so you won’t do anything on the engine side anyway. That’s strictly for the exhaust side, so if you don’t have it, you don’t need it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Because the last two years that I’ve gotten emissions, they said it’s just over the threshold to pass. And I know the state’s clamping down on these older diesels.
SPEAKER 12 :
They are. And is it because the opacity has got too much smoke, or what are they saying, Dennis?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, smoke.
SPEAKER 12 :
It’s smoke, yeah. I mean, about the only thing you could do there would be to try to run a diesel injection clean through that on the front side to try to get the opacity down some. But some of that, Dennis, is they’re just tightening things up, and they want those older diesels off the road, as you know. So I’m sorry to say it is what it is.
SPEAKER 06 :
It is what it is. Sure. And that’s my next step is to try that fuel cleaner.
SPEAKER 12 :
There you go.
SPEAKER 06 :
And just for you diesel guys out there, The oil guy on YouTube did a comparison and an analysis on diesel fuel additives, which is very interesting.
SPEAKER 12 :
Cool. I’ll go watch that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Also, I have an 85 Ford three-quarter ton pickup box trailer.
SPEAKER 22 :
Oh.
SPEAKER 06 :
And I’m having an issue with the wiring.
SPEAKER 22 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
I did it during the daytime. Everything works fine. But then you turn the lights on at night and… If you turn either one of the turn signals on, that turn signal that you selected flashes brightly, but then both license plate lights and the right turn signal also flash.
SPEAKER 12 :
You have a background. You have a background on the trailer somewhere. Somewhere, yep.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. All right. That’s what I was looking for. I’ll start looking there.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yep, that’s most likely what it’s going to be.
SPEAKER 05 :
Maybe some corrosion coming under the connector or something.
SPEAKER 12 :
Exactly, something along those lines. It should be fairly easy to find.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it sits outside, and that wouldn’t surprise me.
SPEAKER 12 :
There you go. Very common.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thanks, guys. I appreciate it.
SPEAKER 12 :
You betcha, Dennis. Appreciate you. No, and some of you are saying, how do you know that? Well, you do enough work on trailers and such, especially trailers, and what I just told Dennis I have encountered more than once.
SPEAKER 01 :
A couple times? Yeah, just a few times.
SPEAKER 12 :
Just a few. And, yeah, typically it’s meaning there’s either we don’t have a good ground from the truck to the trailer itself or the trailer ground wire from the plug to the frame of the trailer, which is typically what they do, has a bad connection, it’s not grounding properly, something along those lines. Yeah. Guys, that’s it for hour number two. We’ve got another full hour coming your way. Lines are open, 303-477-5600. 303-477-5600. We’ll be right back. Myself, Pat Schneid. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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