Join us on Sekulow as we delve into the unfolding political preparations concerning another potential impeachment of President Trump. House Democrats, bolstered by recent reports, are preparing to initiate impeachment proceedings on day one if they regain control. We discuss the strategic setup of shadow hearings and the impact these moves might have on the political landscape, drawing parallels to previous impeachment efforts. Discover how this aligns with or counters the broader political strategies and public sentiments.
SPEAKER 03 :
We got a new report as we see desperate Democrats plan their next impeachment of President Trump. And it’s coming sooner than you think.
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Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
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Welcome to Sekulow Friday, April 24th, 2026. We made it here, folks. It’s Friday. Hopefully starting to unwind a little bit. Have a good weekend. Jacket came off well-sided. You know, I’m going to do a little polo for you today. Well, I mean, it’s nice outside. I also had like a school assembly I had to get to. But you know, I’m here. It’s not a ton of news going on, everybody. But there is one piece of information I think you’re going to find pretty interesting. Big report that came out from Axios. It’s not necessarily the most shocking, except for the fact that we can now see that the wheels are already turning. The plans are already in motion. And that is for something we told you likely would come, depending on how the midterms go. And that is the push for another impeachment of President Trump day one. That’s what they say. And that’s what this report is leading us on to believe.
SPEAKER 13 :
That’s right. So this is a group of House Democrats that have started to coalesce together. And they’re putting forward not only just a plan to present an impeachment day one, but they’re trying to build a case and create the conditions that They’re also talking about potentially holding shadow hearings so they can do all this impeachment work before they even have the majority.
SPEAKER 03 :
Meaning hearings that will go on, preliminary hearings, but they won’t be informal.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right. So whereas you saw the impeachment hearings that happened in the House of Representatives, the very first impeachment, as we we try to forget, but have to remember back that was related to Ukraine and those issues. They had those hearings in the. various committees to present evidence almost like leading towards an indictment that was kind of the way you look at those type of hearings then they present it to the house floor for a vote and that vote passed which said you are now impeached and then they sent that over to the senate for the trial portion that is what they’re almost trying to get ahead of and hold these hearings shadow hearings they say where i guess they’d be convening them outside of the capitol maybe some of the paperwork ready exactly but trying to present witnesses and things of that nature in an informal way not an official hearing because the majority would not have called those yet but trying to get to a point where they can move as quickly as congressionally possible To send an impeachment to the Senate if they were to take the House back in November.
SPEAKER 03 :
And here’s the truth. We know what they impeached President Trump on last time, specifically that first one. They have plenty of fodder if that qualifies. If that qualifies for impeachment, which of course was that phone call with Ukraine. back years ago at this point, then I’m sure they can find a litany of options, plenty of things that they could quote unquote say are impeachable. We have currently the war in Iran, certainly something they’re going to throw out there. There are plenty of things that if you have the votes, it doesn’t even really matter. If your beliefs really match up to what it is, you have the votes, you’re going to come up with a reason. That is the desperate side of politics today. I want to hear from you about this. Are you ready to go through another impeachment trial? Look, we know last time it was unsuccessful. Our team was involved in it. However… Meaning unsuccessful for the Democrats to fully remove President Trump from office. But this time it could have a very different lay of the land. And as we know, though, sometimes the end result is clear before it even begins. It does put a lot of pain on the American people, puts a lot of pain on the federal government. They have to go through a lot of red tape. They have to go through all of the proceedings. Things slow down. It is not a fun process to be a part of, I can assure you. Phone lines are open at 1-800-684-3110. If you want to talk about this or any of the topics we’ve hit this week, feel free to call in or anything on your mind. It’s Friday. We’ll get a little looser on the phone lines. Be nice, though. Be nice to the phone screeners. 1-800-684-3110. Look, we are really closing in on the end of our Double the Difference Drive. Be a part of the ACLJ team today. Go to ACLJ.org. It’s actually the last day of the more casual Double the Difference Drive. Well, next week, special week. We’ll be right back. Welcome back to Seculo. A lot of you are just joining us right now. So what we’re talking about is the report that came in through Axios that the House Democrats are already planning their first move. And of course, what do you think their first move is going to be if they are to come into power? That is to impeach President Trump. When? Day one! That’s right. We know that a bunch of House Democrats are pushing their colleagues to at least start beginning… The process of building the case, the impeachment case against President Trump. Look, it does feel like somewhat ancient history when we went through this twice. Once while President Trump was in office, once while he wasn’t. And they are making it very clear that it is going to be. Now, I’m very curious. Do you think it will be a campaign promise? Do you think it’ll be something that they start rolling out here a little bit more open and saying this is what we’re going to do because they know it could rally their base?
SPEAKER 13 :
I think for a group of them, yes, it will. And I think if they are doing some of this work. like having shadow hearings and things of that nature they will be doing that not just for the benefit I guess of them having done work early but also to use for campaign material and to push and show the people like look what we’re doing we’re already fighting hard trying to rally the base to to lead towards a theoretical impeachment if they take the house.
SPEAKER 03 :
I was going to say, there’s a call coming in about it. Maybe it’ll help spur some more calls. Let’s go to Warren on line one. Warren, go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thanks for taking my call, guys. You know, we knew day one, they talked about impeachment anyways, but it just, it goes to show that the Democrats and the left are doing nothing and have done nothing to better America or their constituents or anything except for oppose Trump and the Republicans and everything that’s done.
SPEAKER 13 :
You know, Warren, one thing I think that’s so fascinating, and once I agree with what you’re saying there about if this is all they have to run on. But in reality, they are pushing this. And I think there’s also on the conservative side a resignation to the fact that, yeah, they’re going to take the House. Now, that is normal. It is normal for conservatives. Two years in, the first midterm after an election.
SPEAKER 03 :
The pendulum swings.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, the opposing party takes control of the House of Representatives. There’s that kind of pushback after the first two years of an administration. What’s interesting here is that how resigned it feels like many conservatives are, that they’re just like, I’m going to focus on my race, the swing districts, whatever. It’s going to flip. The Senate will probably hold for the Republicans. That’s not a guarantee. It does feel like there is a lot of deflation when it comes to the the mood in Congress. Now, part of that has been the intra party fighting that you’ve seen between the Senate and the House on the conservative side of them not even being able to get on the same page to get legislation passed or funding bills passed. I think that has kind of taken down some of their motivation, some of their pep if for lack of a better term when it comes to doing the job so this resignation to the fact that they’re going to lose the house makes it almost a guarantee that we’re going to have to deal with this which is ridiculous because we’ve seen how ridiculous it is now we know that impeachment is a impeach for anything if they get the votes and then it gets sent and you have to convince the senate that it is a enough of a high crime and misdemeanor to convict and remove you from office it takes more than just a simple majority in the senate which is a good thing so will president trump be removed from office from this impeachment no it’s going to be a waste of time and money and and everything the conclusion is already there
SPEAKER 03 :
that they don’t have the votes for this to go beyond impeachment?
SPEAKER 13 :
Right. Well, I mean, here’s the deal.
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In theory, something could change.
SPEAKER 13 :
The Democrats would have to have a super majority in the Senate or convince More than 10 Republicans to remove the president from office with just two years never happened it’s just two years and and like you said why have they been calling it an illegal war since even before bombs started falling in Iran they were talking about military you can you can disobey illegal orders So it’s either going to be on even though I feel like the news has moved on from the ice story. I think that was their first plan was to say he’s illegally using the military on American soil. Therefore, we will impeach him. I think they’ve moved on from that because the media has. What they’ll probably do is say, the war in Iran is an illegal war. We believe that. And so therefore, we are going to impeach him on the fact that he went beyond the scope of his power. It’s an abuse of power. Those will probably be the charges in the articles of impeachment. You’re giving them a lot of ideas here, Will. It’s not that hard. I’m not giving them any ideas. I’m using their words.
SPEAKER 03 :
If you think Will shouldn’t be giving them ideas, let us know in the chat.
SPEAKER 13 :
yes or no do you think will should be leading this impeachment process this is like you’re making a compelling case uh no i think it’s absurd i’m saying that is the the thing that they will do because we know what their rhetoric is and therefore they’re going to just use their rhetoric to push an impeachment there used to be the standards of why was impeachment so rarely used only two other times in American history before President Trump. Now a total of four times he’s been impeached two of them. He’s about to be the majority shareholder of impeachments as soon as November rolls around and we get into January when they will take over in the House of Representatives if things go according to what they’re expecting.
SPEAKER 03 :
Now we do know that polling and those kind of things is a very different world in here in the 2020s if you will. However As Will said, it almost feels like a foregone conclusion. As much as I don’t want to be that kind of person, and I don’t think you should. You got to get out and vote. You got to do what you got to do. but it feels like they are already are resigning to the fact that this is going to be a flip.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and I think that’s also part of the concern I have too, is where we’ve talked about some of this, like a conservative nihilism that’s risen where people are saying there’s nothing will ever change the, you know, no one will ever be held accountable, et cetera, et cetera. Well, I look at it as this is an opportunity to do something and, If you think it’s a waste of the American taxpayers’ money and time, and instead of them working together to find, okay, now you have control of the House of Representatives. How about you go forward and try to find across-the-aisle legislation you can pass with a Republican Senate and get the Republican president to sign? Instead, you’re just going to try to get him out of office. Yeah. and then J.D. Vance becomes president? I mean, it’s absurd all of what they’re doing just to run out the clock.
SPEAKER 03 :
Nicola in the comments is saying they’re all watching right now, watching and going, write that down, write that down. i i can guarantee you they’re not watching me i don’t know well some people they we have big influence here okay you know what don’t just like you say don’t be nihilist don’t be a conservative nihilist don’t be a don’t be a broadcast nihilist but that should get people motivated to go vote yeah to go support a candidate to listen to you care about right all right let’s take another call henry it’s colin in texas go ahead henry
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Hey, how are you doing? My name is Henry. I’m from Maytown, Texas. Yes, sir. I think that, uh, you know, they wasted a whole lot of taxpayers money. The last time they tried to impeach president Trump. If they’re unsuccessful, I think that they should be held responsible instead of the taxpayers.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, Henry, what they love is just throwing that impeached label on President Trump. Are they unsuccessful? They would probably say they were successful in impeaching the president, but we know, in the back of your head, when you think of what an impeachment should lead to, if it was a just impeachment… It would lead to the removal from office or even as Richard Nixon did resigning from office before they even got to that moment. But that’s not what this is. This is a political talking point and they love a good brand to throw something on. They love a label to throw and they all start using the same words. Why? Because it’s really easy to say now the thrice impeached President Trump.
SPEAKER 13 :
One thing that Henry, I think, brings up the point of saying that, you know, they need to pay it back. Well, here’s the problem. Where do they get their money from? When it comes to their salary, it’s from us. So, yeah, they’re still the taxpayer paying it back. But then I don’t think they’d be willing to part with, you know, some of the Democrats that are very prolific politicians. traders uh in the uh stock market when it comes to certain activities the famous nancy pelosi tracker things of that nature i don’t think they’d be willing to part with that either but i like where your head’s at henry yeah thanks henry for calling if you want to call in we got a few lines open at 1-800-684-3110 just me will today so you know what let’s mix it up if you got any other comments related to this specifically or other topics
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I think they’re just messing with you.
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SPEAKER 13 :
Will, you want to pivot a little bit here? Yeah, I did want to bring this up because I think it’s interesting and I think that I’d like to hear from the audience on this one as well. But one, we had a video in the break that talked about the fact that Israel and Lebanon are extending their ceasefire by three weeks. Remember that? 10-day ceasefire was announced a few days back, and it really kind of led to Iran stopping their bombing of the Gulf nations, which had nothing to do with what was going on between Israel and Lebanon. But it really brought them more into the ceasefire, the Iranians. But it’s also led to real talks between Israel and Lebanon for the first time in over 30 years. And so you’re seeing progress between the government of Lebanon and Israel. And that could lead to something where one of Iran’s, probably Iran’s strongest proxy still, Hezbollah, may be having the government of Lebanon finally doing something about their presence there. But on top of that, there’s this other issue. This is the defense minister of Israel. The other issue being war. Right, right. The other side of the war. The defense minister of Israel said that Israel is awaiting a green light from the United States. First and foremost, to complete the elimination of the Khomeini dynasty, the initiator of the extermination plan against Israel, and the successors of the successors of the leadership of the Iranian terror regime. And, in addition, to return Iran to the age of darkness and stone by blowing up central energy and electricity facilities and crushing national economic infrastructure.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think President Trump wrote that. It sounds like it. That’s actually Defense Minister Katz. Yeah, Defense Minister Israel Katz, which sounds like a name President Trump uses posing as the defense minister. It’s his burner account. He calls into a show. He’s like, what should we call him? Defense Minister Israel Katz.
SPEAKER 13 :
There you go. That’s exactly it. But I want to know from the audience, if the United States were to say, you know what? We’re done here. We have eliminated the leadership. We have taken out most of their military capabilities. We feel like we have done what we came to do. They do not have an opportunity at this point to build a nuclear weapon or to restart that nuclear program for decades, right? We’re going to bring our troops home. Would you be in favor of the United States coming home and Israel doing whatever they want to do after that? Getting the green light, as the defense minister says, to go ahead and finish what you and I were talking about earlier in the week, that we do want to see real regime change there. We want to see the Khomeini dynasty.
SPEAKER 03 :
We talk about a lot of things.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, no, specifically where we’re talking about with the deals being up in the air and the extended ceasefire.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s what we always hoped for.
SPEAKER 13 :
Exactly. Can we, would you as the audience be okay with if it wasn’t the United States that took out the Iranian remnant leadership in the IRGC and help set the people of Iran free?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I would hope so. Because look, I would hope so. I hope Israel can just go in and finish the job here if the United States decides to make a deal. I think there’s other ways around this. And look, I believe there should be a freedom for the people in Iran. If you’ve spoken to really any of your friends and maybe you’ve seen any of your neighbors who are of Persian or Iranian background, most of them are praying daily for a free Iran, a new government, not a new group of people in the same style of government, not just a new administration, but a truly new regime. It doesn’t seem to be the plan. As someone called in said, I don’t know if it was ever the plan. They are right that, you know, it was maybe not ever stated out specifically that this would be President Trump’s plan. But we talked about standing behind the Iranian people. I think that means standing for the Iranian people and the people who are in the streets who got murdered for simply speaking out against their government. There are still like two lines open at 1-800-684-3110. I’m looking at the chat. A lot of you coming in from California today. I don’t know why California is such a big hotbed today. I think maybe they’re frustrated. They want to talk to someone. Mexico as well. So we got people from around the world watching. It’s always good to hear from California. Always good to hear from Mexico. And let’s take things on the phones. Let’s go the other side of the country. The free state of Florida. Let’s go to Cara who’s calling in. Line two. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hi, my question is you guys are doing a great job of giving us all this information, but what can we really do as American people to kind of combat some of this wasteful spending? Like we’re seeing the stuff with Ilhan Omar and Minnesota, and I think that’s where we’re becoming complacent. What can we do? I’m curious as to some ideas that you guys have.
SPEAKER 03 :
How quickly we forget, Kara. It becomes not top story and all of a sudden Minnesota feels like that happened five years ago. Feels like we’re not even talking about all of that and sort of the waste, fraud, and abuse. This is something that obviously was one of President Trump’s big initiatives early on. He had Elon Musk involved, he had Doge, and it really took a lot of heat and kind of ended up, sadly, falling a little short. As Elon would say, essentially, there’s so much corruption going on. He didn’t say it is not a quote, but kind of inferred it. So much going on, so much red tape in the not just this administration, but just in Washington, D.C. in general, that getting things done and actually cutting spending very, very difficult. And I find that to be frustrating for a lot of you that there are billions, if not trillions of dollars being wasted every year.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I think to one point, though, is that you look and you see things like the director of the FBI put this out last night, that in the last 24 hours, the FBI has taken down a scam center with 503 fraud websites dismantled, had over 700 million in stolen crypto, other things that are fraudulent activities. But you also look at what the vice president’s task force found in California and how quickly also that pushed California to indict that 21 member fraud ring for hospice fraud that was taking hundreds of millions of dollars. And it is because of shining a light. It is because of continuing to talk about those things. It is because you let your member of Congress know this matters to me still. So, yes, I don’t think, one, when you have a government and a bureaucracy as large as the United States has, you’re never going to completely eliminate it. But that should be the goal. And continuing to bring it up and letting those people know this is something that actually matters to me. I don’t want just a campaign slogan of eliminate waste, fraud and abuse and then nothing done about it. I really want to see this happen. That’s when you start to see change. And I think this administration is doing something very good when it comes to this fraud initiative, because it’s even making California react. They had to indict as well. So I think you shouldn’t lose hope on that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, we’re going to keep taking some calls even related to that. There’s a lot of people talking about the elections coming up, the midterms as well. Are we being too pessimistic? What does that look like? And, of course, a lot of other coverage. But I want to hear from you at 1-800-684-3110. This is the end of the first half hour. You’ve heard me say it before. Second half hour is coming up. ACLJ.org, YouTube, Rumble, however you get your podcasts. We are there and live from 12 to 1 p.m. Eastern time, archived whenever on. So find us at ACLJ.org. We’re back in less than a minute.
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Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 03 :
Welcome back to Sekulow. Phone lines are jamming up. Finally, thanks for calling, Will. You got people motivated. That’s right. Here on a Friday. It’s hard to get people motivated on a Friday. Right.
SPEAKER 13 :
Looking at a bunch of sleeping people in the control room. There’s literally four people asleep right now.
SPEAKER 03 :
Eyes are closed.
SPEAKER 13 :
I see it.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think if the mics were on, I’d hear snores.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, it’s a good thing we don’t have the mics on in there. It would be nice, though.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’d be like, you know, your dog snores, kind of puts you to sleep.
SPEAKER 13 :
You can just kind of make a video of that here and just let it go.
SPEAKER 03 :
People like that. They watch that on YouTube now. They just like sounds. My kids play these videos. Like, you ever seen this? And I’m like, it’s just the noise of slime. Why is it a video? Why isn’t it just the audio? Hot topics today, guys. This is really what we’re talking about here. Of course, we are talking about a war and other things. Impeachments. Impeachments of war. That is one of the big topics today. Axios put out a report. Again, it should be no shock to any of us, but I like the pregame version of this. They’re like watching game film. I like to think of them all together, just prepping in the locker room. They’re like, all right, guys, we take over. If we take over. And it’s a lot of hopes. It’s like my beloved Orlando Magic right before game one of the series. They’re going to do it. This is going to be our year. It’s our year. It’s our year. And then you get a few months in and they’re like, well, maybe we’ll make the playoffs.
SPEAKER 13 :
And then by the end of it, they’re like, well, next year.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, next year. We’re going to have some new players. It’ll be good. But that being said, we know that some of these top Democrats, and look, they’re going to run on this because you get the midterms coming up very, very soon. We’re talking about months, not years. And we’re talking really about weeks until some of these primaries start happening. And then you will have your midterm elections. They need something to run on. And what are they going to run on? Impeaching President Trump on the first day of being in office. And we know those plans are happening and they’re not even necessarily even a back room. They’re more like off site, you know, at the local Applebee’s. planning out how they’re going to impeach president trump round three do they have to report if they get like free appetizers if they use like a coupon on like the congressional expenses or something i don’t know i’m always wondering yeah i mean they can’t go to chile’s because they’re like el presidente no go here you know we have to go to applebee’s because it’s safer for them so and better tchotchkes on the wall right that’s friday’s oh really yeah i believe these have like skis and stuff sometimes yeah probably yeah i don’t know smoky is what i remember that was back in the when you were in the 90s yeah yeah hey if applebee’s you won’t spot we’re fine we’re down okay i have some requests to bring back on the menu That being said, we do have a bunch of calls coming in. I’m not going to take them in this segment because honestly, how do you even go from here? The next segment, we’re going to take a ton of calls. So stay tuned. We got one line open at 1-800-684-3110. We do actually try to have a little bit of fun here on Friday. We know you’re listening. You’re starting to wrap up your week and you want to know what’s going around the world. Let’s just be honest. Today has been a pretty quiet news day. sometimes that’s nice but what’s really happening behind the scenes we know Washington DC is never quiet and we know there are always these kind of big plans happening this is again not a shocker that it’s happening we’re not sitting there surprised that likely we’re going to be putting ourselves through another marathon impeachment trial that you’ll probably be watching on on your cable news stations day after day with a foregone conclusion that President Trump will not be removed from office just two years before he is up and up without re-election because we know obviously this is his second term in office but it’s a really really good distraction it’s a really really good thing to run on if you are a democrat trying to motivate that far left anti-trump base that maybe you started to lose Maybe they’ve turned on you. Well, you can give them something to bring them back into the fold. And that looks like impeachment could be that thing.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and to be fair, what really do the Democrats want? Like, what could they accomplish with having the House that they would be able to, you know, build a bridge with Republicans in the Senate on? I mean… all of their pet programs and spending is not going to fly in this current day and age. So I think the only thing they can run on is just saying we’re going to just shut everything down. They are kind of the shutdown party. And a visual for pet programs way different than what you were talking about.
SPEAKER 03 :
Mine, I was like, I like it. You know, maybe they can turn me. I do like animals. Here we are, folks. Let’s just be honest. 1-800-684-3110. I’m going to ask you to support the work of the ACLJ, but you may be listening to this segment going, guys, I’m not so sure. But if you still feel inclined, ACLJ.org, double the difference today. Have your donation doubled. Again, doubled today in our double the difference drive right now on ACLJ.org. Welcome back to Sekula. Look, this segment, I want to hear from you. We have so many calls coming in and I’m just going to go straight to the phones. And actually, it’s the call that’s been on hold the least. But they’re ACLJ champions. And ACLJ champions, people that give on a monthly basis. Again, this is not an official perk. You don’t see it on the website. I can’t even tell you that Will or Jordan, whoever may be sitting in these chairs when I’m out, will honor this pledge.
SPEAKER 13 :
A lot of times I reference, oops, I should have taken the champion first. Yeah, that’s the name of your podcast. Oops, I should have taken the champion first.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Oops, I should have. And each episode is something different. Yeah, exactly. All right. This is an important topic, though. Of course, we are talking about the potential for a third impeachment. We know the kind of pain it puts everyone through. It’s sort of like a government shutdown that’s used politically, but it’s also really shuts down whatever is happening. So all good, or in your opinion, if it’s all bad, a lot of it gets just, there’s a halt in Washington, D.C. Let’s go to Frank in Connecticut, an ACLJ champion, someone that gives on a monthly basis, which I appreciate. Frank, go ahead.
SPEAKER 12 :
Hello, guys. God bless you. Yeah, this midterm election, it’s more important than the presidential election at this point. The narrative should be, let’s get our base out and vote. I know in the midterms, no one wants to get out. I don’t care how much it costs. You need to start spending some money and get this message out there. Everything relies on this election. We will lose everything. We’ll have tax hikes, everything.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, Frank, it’s as much as that as nothing will get done. You know, if this happens, if this goes through, sure, you’ll have changes you certainly don’t agree with. But what you’ll have is a completely stagnant Trump administration who cannot get a lot of things pushed through because all of a sudden you do not have one of the vital votes. And I don’t understand how the midterm elections, specifically in states where it really does come down to sometimes what feels like dozens of votes because of how few people vote.
SPEAKER 13 :
doesn’t get more attention and i think it’s a fundamental you know misunderstanding of how the government works well and i think to frank’s point i think why you feel like people are just resigned to it is that the kind of what logan said is that there’s like okay well everything will just stop it’ll be two years of lame duck that not much is going to get done we’ll get some spending bills here and there that just keep everything at status quo uh there’ll probably be a couple more shutdowns thrown in because the democrats have decided they love a good shutdown and they’ll try to blame it on the republicans and it’ll kind of work because people will listen to them uh but to that point as well There are still things that can happen. The administration can still do a lot of things as the executive branch, but it really will put a pause on really anything big happening. In some ways, maybe that’s nice. Maybe, especially with the current state of the Republicans in the House and the Senate, where they’re not fully getting along, maybe it will be nice to just hit the pause button. I wouldn’t prefer it. I don’t want the House to be turned into the impeachment machine. and wasting money that way. They’re going to find ways to waste your money, the Democrats in Congress, and maybe they’re just going to do it on impeachment after impeachment. I also want to say this before we go to another call. This is to a longtime viewer on Rumble, Ryder, that said, and it was back to when we were talking about I was saying, yeah, things can move. We are starting to see people get indicted for fraud. We are starting to see dismantling of some of these fraud networks. And Ryder said, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, nothing is going to happen. And I believe at the timing that that’s what we were talking about. But I would push back on that. One, even the stuff that happened with Doge in the beginning, while not fully what we hoped, The fact that USAID was completely dismantled, which if they’re still trying to tell you that it is going to just be hurting the world, you haven’t looked into what USAID was going to do. They were just a network of people taking government money with little oversight. So the waste, fraud, and abuse, that was probably the biggest center of it where the oversight was so relaxed No conservative causes or NGOs would ever get a grant. It was only the most liberal causes. They were just printing money for them. And at the end of the day, it wasn’t really helping the world as it was promoted, nor is that what it should be the job necessarily of the federal government to have an ongoing entirety of this program. Now, we know that…
SPEAKER 03 :
See, I don’t mind as much of that as long as it was actually being done for those reasons.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, in the reality, though, it was a shell operation of the CIA that was created a long time ago under JFK to do soft power moves. They would go in, they flood it with money. That’s how it began. was to use it as an intelligence wing to flood soft money into these areas using NGOs. And it just became an out of control spending spree for those in Congress that like to spend American taxpayer dollars.
SPEAKER 03 :
And now you know. There you go. That was very informative. I appreciate it. The movement can happen. Things do get done, okay? You can actually have progress in America. It’s very easy to forget when that happens. Sometimes it does happen, and then all we hear are the complaints of nothing ever happens. And we go, hey, guys, you know when you always say nothing ever happens? Look, this is happening. Then two weeks later, you’re going to go, nothing ever happens. It feels that way sometimes. But remember, your memory can be very short. The American news cycle is very short. The media cycle is very short. Your memories can be very short. So we’re going to keep this conversation going. A lot of calls on Iran also right now. So we’ll kind of bounce between Iran, Israel. Of course, there’s impeachment stuff. So let’s see what else we can hit. Let’s go to Brian. We’ll take it over to the conflict in Iran. Brian in Virginia, go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
My comment is that we’re going to lose so much credibility on the world stage if we don’t finish the job. We definitely need to secure the Strait of Hormuz. And we can’t ever attack, I don’t think, their bridges or power plants and all that different stuff, or allow Israel to do that, because that’ll cause so much harm to the people of Iran, cause such a humanitarian crisis, and actually turn the people against us. So we don’t want that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Brian, I think you make some very valid points. Again, it’s figuring out what that finish the job means to not only you, but to the current administration. It seems like there may be some conflict of what that means between Israel and what that means with America. This is also politics. So sometimes you have one side say something. So the other side can say something and the job can get done. You know, this could be very much Israel saying, you know what? When we’re ready to finish this job, we’re going to do it. Let’s save America’s face a little bit. And don’t be surprised if that is the kind of conversations that are happening behind the scenes.
SPEAKER 13 :
That’s right. And once again, it also goes to show that it is actually America running the show when it comes to the foreign policy of the United States and the war in Iran, because it is Israel admitting, say, we’re waiting. We would like to continue this bombing. they israel doesn’t want uh really this deal talk uh to continue they want to continue attacking iran and make sure the leadership because their existential threat is a little bit different a little bit closer to home right and we know that they have the ballistic missiles capable of hitting israel right and so i i think that is where the difference is as well all right let’s go to jerry kind of take on the other side of this jerry rhode island go ahead
SPEAKER 10 :
To answer your question, should we go if we have negated the nuclear threat and the military advisers are telling POTUS we’ve accomplished it all, then I think we should. And let the people who won’t cooperate with the blockade over in that part of the world, let them pick up the stick and run with it.
SPEAKER 13 :
See, I’m kind of with Jerry on this. You would be with Jerry. Well, he’s a longtime caller.
SPEAKER 03 :
I like Jerry.
SPEAKER 13 :
But I mean, to that point, I want to see a real regime change in Iran. But as we were saying the other day as well, if we’re not going to… Fully invest in that. Then why are we here? Then if we can be certain that we have at least for 20 years completely destroyed their capacity to have centrifuges, if we have wiped out not just the facilities but even the scientists and just the rebuilding process of making and getting centrifuges and all of these things is so far out from where they are, then I think you can say, yeah, we said we were going to eliminate the nuclear threat. We did. We’re done. Israel, if you want to continue and you want to see and push for regime change, go ahead. I don’t have as much of a problem with that.
SPEAKER 03 :
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SPEAKER 13 :
It’s a very busy news day, folks.
SPEAKER 03 :
Top stories of the day. They revealed the cast for the new live action Scooby-Doo. You know what? I’m excited for it. With that, let’s move on. So many calls are coming in today. Look, I’m going to do my best to get to all of you. If you’re going to hold over 20 minutes, I guarantee it. If you’re going to hold over 15 minutes, I’ll try. If you’re going to hold less than 10, no guarantees. But I’m going to do my best to just stay on hold. Let’s go quick to the calls. Let’s go first to Chuck calling on line five.
SPEAKER 06 :
Chuck, go ahead. Well, good afternoon, guys. It’s good to be back on with you guys. I just want to say… I think the topics that we’re trying to discuss here regarding what’s happening in our country, I think when I look at the Iranian war, my only problem is we went in and we really didn’t have a plan going in. So when you don’t have a solid plan going in, it’s going to be difficult to have a plan getting out. Then what my old saying is, if you break it, you got to fix it. It’s going to cost us billions to fight, and then we’re going to spend billions to try to rebuild the infrastructure. And I just think this presidency has failed because all of our wisdom and people of war, we’re just dismantling and throwing everybody out. I think Pete and some of these guys that’s making these decisions, they have no reference points. And they’re just blasting, blasting, blasting. And it seems like the whole purpose is to cover up something. that if we just say, hey, man, come clean and fix what we’ve got going on here in the United States, it won’t get as bad as what we’re doing. It’s like we’re trying to fight everybody’s war, but take care of our own here.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, Chuck, I’m not invalidating your opinion. I think that you speak for a lot of the American people who feel this way, who never wanted us to get involved, and I understand that. Do I think we had a solid plan going in? I think there was more of a solid plan going in than maybe what happened, sort of the shift that happened. I mean, look how quickly we were able to take out the top leadership. won. They were able to take out really everyone of influence in Iran. Now, the weeks that followed, I will agree with you. It seems like it got a little murkier as time has moved on. The plans changed. The end goal changed. You had those sort of moments where it felt like we were headed towards a mission accomplished moment from Iraq now happening with Iran. There was those remnants of that, the reminders of that. Now, do I think there’s still time to fix that i do i also understand the spending issues and saying look how much money we’re spending but look we also know as will brought up look how much money we’re spending on a lot of things that seem to be not of interest to people but it involves israel if involves iran you know those are the uh involves us getting involved the middle east all of a sudden it feels like those billions are somehow worse than these other billions being wasted if you would
SPEAKER 13 :
And here’s why I appreciate your call, Chuck, because one, you disagree with us and you’re able to say that without being nasty, attacking our call screen or attacking us or saying something extremely anti-Semitic, which we sometimes have to deal with. But in reality… You also speak, I feel like, for a lot of people. I think that has been the biggest criticism of this. Now, I personally, my opinion on the operation in Iran is that I was glad that we finally did this as the United States of America because we have been fighting against this regime since the 70s for 47 years. They’ve been killing Americans. They have a stated goal to kill Americans. And at the end of the day, we know that their goal is theocratic, that their theology is to kill Americans and Western ideology so that they can take over the world. That’s the theology of the leadership. So I think it is a threat. And I do think actually that Pete Hegseth and the military leaders, they actually fought this operation a lot differently than previous militaries under previous Republicans have done. And I feel like it did move quicker. I think that we aren’t used to seeing it play out at that speed and that transparent. And that’s why that we are starting to see people say, oh, they don’t have a plan and they don’t have this. I disagree, but I also appreciate you calling and voicing it. But Logan and I have said, some of the PR issue now is that it validates a lot of what Chuck says of, hey, well, we’re doing a ceasefire. Then we’re not going to have a ceasefire anymore. It’s a deadline. Oh, but now we’re going to do it indefinitely. But no, it’s only three to five days. That’s a PR crisis in America to the constituents.
SPEAKER 03 :
Showing us movie-looking footage of them taking ships. It doesn’t feel as dismantled as maybe they want you to believe, but Chuck, I totally understand.
SPEAKER 13 :
And I do want to say one more thing that relates to that. I’m so sorry. But this is when it goes back to also the fraud issue is that he’s pointing out that this cost a lot of money. Yes, I think this is something, though, that for the American people, for the future, for our kids, it’s a good thing. But whenever Republicans do try to address things at home, like all the fraud in the Medicare system, The Democrats use that as, look, they’re trying to dismantle. If you stop paying fraudsters and therefore that money is not spent, they will use that as a campaign ad that they cut funding to Medicare and Medicaid. That is the reality. that they will use even paying fraudsters. If you eliminate that, they’ll use it in campaign ads. I guarantee you that they dropped funding.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. I want to take Roberta in Colorado line three, but hold for half hour. Thanks Roberta.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hi, I wanted to just say, I do believe my comment is, I do believe that we should have always been standing next to and supporting Israel and let the world know that we always will. And is the Iron Dome still working?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, Roberta, number one, I agree with you on that. Sadly, that was a pretty much standard operation, whether you’re a Democrat or Republican, until the last decade. I would say until the last five years, until the last three years, really, that there was sort of an unbreaking alliance between Israel and America. Now that did started to shift primarily under Obama. Remember Obama was calling for the 1947 borders and for all of that during his time. So yes, that started to shift a lot of it. Of course, you had the Clintons very strongly in support of Israel. You obviously had George W. Bush very strongly in support of Israel. Then Barack Obama started to soften it. President Trump came back stronger than ever. Joe Biden took a very opposite, after being a big Israel supporter for decades, decided to start wavering with sort of the will of the far left on his party. And then you have now President Trump reasserting this. But I do think we’ve got to be very careful with it. That being said, in terms of the Iron Dome, currently, as Will said, right now, prayerfully, thankfully, not a lot of action needed right now. So hopefully, though there were some issues with the Iron Dome, just due to the amount that was coming in, hopefully they’ve had time, if you want to say, to reload.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right, and I think that is partially why the ceasefire is good for Israel, is that it is giving them time to reload some. They are still seeing some rocket fire from Hezbollah, even though they have entered into this ceasefire with Lebanon. Yeah, there’s still things happening. But the Iron Dome seems to be able to handle that at this point. So I think that as of right now, yes, the Iron Dome is holding.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s sad that it needs to exist, but it is what it is. I’m going to take really quickly. Let’s go to Marion. Marion, you’ve got like 20 seconds on the air. I’m sorry, but you’re only going to hold 10 minutes, okay? Marion, go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, basically, I wanted to say that I’m in favor of continuing the war. And the reason that I am is every time that something happens, like they go and blow up ships and they’re sending all these mines down in the ocean and all that, we need to find out who these people are. And Trump said if they start doing that, we’re just going to blow them out of the water just like we did in Venezuela. So I’m in favor of keeping it to expose who the bad people really are. And eventually we might get somebody that will help the people.
SPEAKER 03 :
Look, Mary, I’m only cutting you off for time here. How quickly we forgot about Venezuela. How quickly we forget about a lot of these things. Thanks for reminding us. With that, we made it here, everybody. It’s the end of the show Friday. Can you believe it? Looking at everyone. They’re finally starting to wake up in there. This is what happens. They know it’s almost lunchtime. Or dinner time, depending on when you’re listening to this. Or maybe you’re looking for a nice light snack. With that, I want you to support the work of the ACLJ. It’s been a good double the difference drive. Help it be better. Scan the QR code. Go to ACLJ.org. Talk to you Monday.
