Richard Battle articulates the critical differences between principled and power leadership. He suggests that a principled approach not only empowers individuals but strengthens the very civilization we are a part of. This suggests a need for leaders who prioritize integrity and example-setting over the mere wielding of authority for personal gains.
The discussion takes a significant turn into real-world events as the pair analyze former President Trump’s cabinet picks. These selections are framed as driven by trust rather than loyalty, indicating a shift towards valuing talent and trustworthiness over mere political allegiance. The conversation highlights the importance of selecting leaders who can transcend past inefficiencies, offering a fresh perspective in governance.
Richard uses the example of Trump to demonstrate how personal trust in leadership can potentially replenish a national sense of direction and purpose. With firsthand accounts of Trump’s attention to detail, Richard underscores the importance of being engaged and knowledgeable in leadership roles, a stark contrast to many current government figures who may lack necessary insights.
Within this intellectual dialogue, Josh Hawley’s probing questions on Capitol Hill take center stage as a testament to the power of informed leadership. Hawley challenges the status quo by demanding transparency and accountability from major financial institutions. This is framed as a call for leaders who can rally under principled stances, articulate necessary changes, and lead by example.
The episode also addresses a national and global leadership vacuum, proposing that its roots may extend to the pervasive influence of Marxist ideologies. As Richard explains, a decline in genuine leadership and the rise of self-centered power grabs exemplify a reality where the ends often justify the means, much to societal detriment.
Ultimately, John and Richard strive to inspire listeners to see that principled leadership, embodied in leaders who serve constituents authentically, could rectify the deep divides and inefficiencies present within modern governance. They believe in nurturing future leaders who abide by truth, remain transparent, and prioritize the public’s best interests over self-serving agendas. Rush to Reason encapsulates a clear vision for a leadership transformation that, if achieved, promises a brighter socio-political landscape.
As John and Richard delve into the intricacies of leadership and power dynamics, they challenge conventional wisdom by proposing that talent and aptitude should trump experience in leadership roles. The conversation extends to real-world examples such as Josh Hawley’s Capitol Hill inquiries, illustrating the pitfalls of inexperienced leadership. They advocate for a paradigm shift towards servant leadership and transparency, emphasizing how these principles can restore trust and efficiency in governance. This episode serves as a call to action for listeners, to demand better leadership that truly serves the public and stands firm on its foundational principles.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Richard Battle joining us now. Richard, how are you, sir?
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Good afternoon, John. Thank you for having us. We're doing fantastic.
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Always a joy. Principled versus power leadership returning to principles.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, this kind of follows up the election, and I hope that we'll return to principled leadership. And as we talk about this, it applies not only to Washington or our state governments, but to business and family life as well. And when we don't exercise principled leadership and lead just with power, it basically takes away a lot of the things that build our civilization in my opinion.
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No, I would agree with that. And as we talked through and we, you know, it's sort of been a hot topic here of late is all the cabinet picks and the different people that Trump has picked. And some are saying, well, you know, that person doesn't have a lot of experience in such and such. And, you know, their resume isn't super deep in that particular area. And yet I can kind of counter that and say, well, yeah, like Pete Buttigieg did anything more than ride a bike and he's the transportation secretary. Without saying that, richard it's like you know on the same token these are people that for the most part i mean there's a couple of picks i'm not super excited about but for the most part these are people to your point that are very principled and want to get those departments back to the principled basis that they were formed on in the first place or in some cases i think some of them would like to just see that whole organization go completely away but at the end of the day these are people that very much have principles
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, and one of many examples I could give you is former UCLA basketball coach John Wooden said, you always take talent over experience.
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And I think in this case, that's exactly what Trump has done.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, and he is going to succeed if he increases the people's trust in government, which is eroded. And if he keeps his promises, he operates in a transparent type of method. I already feel the country. I mean, people – I was in Charlotte, North Carolina last weekend at this Christmas show, and the people there's attitudes were buoyed by what had happened in the last two weeks.
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Yep, and – Really quick, just about some of the picks, Richard, not that this was going to be our main topic for the day, although it does fit in because we're talking about everything from free speech, and we'll talk about that in a moment, and power leadership and what dictators do and so on. And I really don't see any pick. that, number one, doesn't believe in free speech, number two, is going to power their way through. I mean, I look at a lot of these individuals thinking these are really good, solid leaders that on their resume anyways, they have been very good at leading others, and they will do fine in the job that Trump has appointed. We've got to get them confirmed, of course, but I feel like they'll do very well in the positions that they've been entrusted with at this point. Again, we've got to get them confirmed, but I don't see any red flags on that end of things.
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No, and I'm going to go off track also in two things. One, he's picking these people because of his personal trust in them. Absolutely. Not loyalty as the media is saying. Loyalty goes the other direction. He's picking by trust. And I had a meeting and did business with a Trump organization. I had a meeting with his security director three weeks before 9-11. And this was 23 years ago. He told me that Trump at that time signed every check that went through that organization. And so the employees knew that he was aware of what was going on in the business and they had to act properly running their ends of the business because he was aware and supervising them, not micromanaging, but he was aware. And unfortunately, we've had leaders in the past that are so removed from knowing what's going on, they can't effectively supervise people. A lot of them don't care. And others are incapable, and I see the exact opposite with the people that we have coming in. They're experienced and successful in private enterprise, and they'll be able to go in much like Roosevelt's dollar-a-year men during World War II that helped us with the arsenal of democracy.
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Point that I can prove along the lines of what you're talking about, and not that I've got a dog in this fight one way or the other. I just found it interesting. It goes along with what you were just talking about a moment ago. Josh Hawley, he was on Capitol Hill. He was interviewing some of the big execs from Visa and some of the credit card processors and basically talking about that Visa MasterCard kind of has a monopoly, if you would, on the credit end of things. And he was asking these folks that, you know, what do you feel the, you know, what's the average interest rate that people are paying right now when it comes to, you know, fees on their, you know, interest rate on their credit cards, on their outstanding balances? What are merchants on average, you know, paying when it comes to the percentile of a per transaction? And Richard, by the way, these are numbers that I just as a regular business layman could throw out there and probably not be too far off of. And yet these guys are the heads of Visa MasterCard can't answer that question.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, that or they'd rather look dumb and not answer.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, yeah, I'm not so sure that you're not correct in what you're just saying. Point being, though, if you're going to be a solid leader and somebody's asking you a question in your industry that you should know, you should be rattling that number off.
SPEAKER 05 :
I agree, and we have many other examples of that in Washington where leaders have gone up and not had answers for questions.
SPEAKER 03 :
That is pathetic, Richard, if you ask me. I'm sorry. That goes against what we're talking about right here with principled leadership.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, exactly, because the other thing that does is it illustrates to the employees below that person that that person doesn't know enough to manage that business.
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Right.
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And if they don't know enough to manage that business, why should I trust them to lead me to my participation in that business?
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Well, you've got a section here on power leadership. The ends justify the means triumphs over principles. I mean, reality is what you said a moment ago. Either they're dumb or they're lying. And if they're lying, what they're saying is, hey, I'm a power leader and it doesn't matter what I say. The end justifies the means. And that's not good leadership.
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Well, that's exactly correct, and we've seen that. We see it right now in this Pennsylvania Senate recount that's going on where you have somebody fighting to do everything they can when it's pretty apparent that they've lost, but they're trying to hold on to that power spot. And when that happens, it's about that person, not about the constituents or about future generations.
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Absolutely. Again, I know you and I talk a lot about leadership. I enjoy this talk every Wednesday. I look forward to it because, to me, it's a big deal. We are lacking it in a lot of areas, not just in the United States of America, Richard, but worldwide. And I'll get off on a tangent. Hey, I don't care. Reality is Marxism. wants to kill all forms of leadership unless it's the guy at the top doing the ends that justify the means, because that's the way Marxism works. So I believe full well, Richard, that lack of leadership is part of Marxism.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, absolutely. And we are better off the more people that are qualified to lead at all levels of all types of organizations, because that makes us stronger organizationally and as a country.
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It absolutely does. Again, it's a big reason why you and I talk about this on a regular basis. And for those of you listening, bear with us because, yes, there is an end to all of this. Or what I should say, Richard, is there's an end goal here that you and I have. And to me, Richard, it's to raise up good leaders so we don't have this problem.
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Well, that's exactly correct. And that's why I think it's so important. And we can talk about the power leadership, which is basically where you ignore truth and it's all self-focused leadership. But to me, the principle leadership, which is what I hope will reappear, and we need to reinstill at all levels, is leadership by principle and honor and people leading by example. Exercising the one truth, not defining your own truth, and being servant leadership for your constituents. and future generations versus for yourself.
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The more I've been following Pete Hegseth, which a lot of folks don't like because he's never been in the upper echelons of the military, so he's taking a lot of hits along those lines. On the same token, Richard, this is a guy that flat out says women shouldn't be on the front lines, and here's why. We shouldn't be paying for transgendered surgeries in the military, and here's why. I mean, this guy is coming out. principle wise on why these things are wrong and we shouldn't be doing them as a country. And the fact that we are is tearing down our own military.
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Well, yes. And in addition to that, I think the reason he is a good pick, as some of the other ones are also. is he realizes that if we keep doing it the same way we've been doing, we'll keep getting what we get. And what we're getting is a bureaucracy that's out of control. They're spending money because of the way the budget structure is. So to keep getting more money, they have to make up reasons to spend money. And so we need new, different type of leadership. that's not beholden to the defense contractors.
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Absolutely. No, and every time I hear somebody like him say some of the things that he is saying, and I know the other side doesn't like that, Capitol Hill doesn't like it, Big Pharma doesn't like an RFK Jr. coming in because of what he'll do to them. I mean, the reality, Richard, is the swamp is scared because they don't like the principled guys that are coming in, guys and gals that are coming in, that will probably end their regimes.
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Well, that is correct. And I think we're going to see a massive change. It's long overdue.
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Absolutely.
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It really matters which party did it. But we need to have a massive change in how our government operates so that we can make it lean and mean, so to speak, and make it efficient where we're paying money. and our taxes that's used for worthwhile things. This started, in my opinion, after World War II. That's when they started the withholding tax. And in David Brinkley's book, Washington Goes to War, he said that after the war, when they cut back on the military, they still had all this money coming in for the withholding tax, and the politicians said, well, hey, nobody's protesting about this, so I guess they want us to spend it. And so they started making up ways to spend the money versus reducing taxes. and the growth of the government is the proof in the pudding.
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You got it. You're 100% correct. Richard, I know we didn't get to every single point, but I think we gave enough where people should know that principled leadership is what we need. The picks that are there, we need to make sure that these guys and gals both stay on that track. I believe they will, Richard. I have pretty good confidence that they will, because if you look at their track record and what they've already done, they've been there, done that.
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Yes, and we've got two years, and if President Trump doesn't deliver and these people don't deliver, then you're going to see a massive switch back the other direction. If they do deliver, and I hope they do, I think that they will solidify gains two and four years from now so they can finish the job.
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Absolutely. Richard, as always, I appreciate it. How do folks find you and buy some books while they're there?
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Well, we appreciate it, and Christmas and other holidays are coming up. We have great gift books available. RichardBattle.com. All books are signed. If you want anything inscribed, email me, Richard, at RichardBattle.com. Everything's at Amazon, including Kindle and audio versions as well.
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Always a joy, Richard. Appreciate you very much.
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My pleasure. Happy Thanksgiving.
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All right, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. I was going to play something, and I just don't quite have enough time in between because we've got Sonny Kutcher joining us here at the bottom of the hour. But there is a great video out there, and you can probably search it on, I don't know, YouTube or some of the other social media channels. And I can't remember where I saw this, but I was watching it the other day. I should have saved it and put it in my show notes, but I didn't. If I find it, I may do that again here in the near future. But there's a great video of Milton Friedman, the great economist, and they were asking him – this is numerous decades ago, by the way, decades – if you had the ability to go through all of the government agencies – You know, Department of Defense, Department of Education, and on down the line we go. Department of Transportation and et cetera. You know, just he was being interviewed. And there was a guy there asking him, okay, literally, you know, department by department, asking Milton, should this one stay or go? And you would be probably not shocked because some of you know Milton Friedman, but how many of those he would just do away with? including one that I've talked about many times, and I was just like, yeah. In fact, I'll do my best to find that video and bring it here in the near future. But one of them was, what do we do with the Department of the Interior, for example? He's like, get rid of it. Government owns far too much land across the country. It was 40% at that time. I think it's still close to that. It might even be a little higher than that now. No reason why government should own 40% of the land across the country. Get rid of it. It costs money to manage it. You know, he did say that, you know, yes, the buildings and the land that we occupy for government buildings itself. Yes, we should own those. No sense renting and leasing those or whatever. But yes, we should own those. Unless it's an agency that is going to be some sort of a temporary agency, then that's a whole different story. you know, scenario, but he went through literally department by department by department and, you know, outside of some key departments, Treasury, for example, yes, we need that to collect taxes and handle the budgetary needs and so on. You know, Department of Defense, yes, we need that. He even went into talking about the, like, NIH. Do we need them? And he's like, well, we could probably run some of that under the Department of Defense, right? but literally get rid of NIH. And the research and development that happens at a lot of these universities and so on and so forth, there's another way to handle those things. And my point is, will these be the sorts of things? And I guarantee you that Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk have probably watched some of these videos and listened to the likes of Milton Friedman and have got a pretty good idea of some of these things that we should be doing. But if Milton had his way, we would have downsized government decades ago. Rather, we've done the opposite. We've grown it. In fact, every administration, including Trump's past one, grew it. Now, I do think Trump learned some things from that. I think it grew because of the folks Trump had around him. He had a lot of swamp creatures around him. They wanted government to grow. He didn't really know any better at that time, and I don't think had the right people around him to advise him, and he's doing that differently now. You can see that from the picks he's got. Even setting up Doge in the first place is different than the last time around. Are they going to cut like Milton Friedman would like to cut? Probably won't. But even if they do a fraction of what Milton Friedman said to cut, we'll be in better shape. I mean, he went into literally details like, for example, Department of Transportation. Why do we need that? Every state can handle its own. Why do we need a federal Department of Transportation? And frankly, folks, we don't. Why do we need a Department of Education? The states can handle that on their own. Again, I'm using his words, but I'm dovetailing into it because it's correct. Why do we need a national park system? We don't. We don't. Let the states handle even some of those. Turn that land even back over to some of the states that would have some of those parks. And my opinion is, in a lot of cases, reduce the size of the park. I know there's a lot of even outdoorsmen that probably don't like what I'm saying, but there's other ways to handle the outdoors besides having the feds and the states own them. And no, I'm not saying they should all be privatized, but there's other ways to handle these things besides the federal government owning those things and then putting all of the restrictions upon them after that. There's no reason why we own, you know, the government owns 40% of the land across the country. Doesn't need to happen. It's a waste. It's money that is used that we as taxpayers have paid for and we still have to manage and maintain it after the fact. So, again, I'll do my best to try to find that video and play it. I'm sure it's out there in the archives somewhere, and it'll be interesting to see how the Department of Government Efficiency, DOGE, looks at some of these things. And I really hope they start cracking down and getting rid of some of these three-letter agencies that we frankly just don't need. Another one that I've always felt like we don't need, EPA. Don't need it. Every state has a Department of Health that does very similar, if not the exact same things that EPA does. Let the state handle it. Get rid of the EPA. One more layer of bureaucracy that costs us billions of dollars a year we do not need. And it's a hindrance in a lot of cases. Literally, it's a hindrance. They come up with rules and regulations on things that, frankly, at the end of the day, aren't helping anybody but lining somebody else's pockets. And in some cases, not ours as a country, but some other country. So we'll see how this goes. Back to what Richard and I were talking about in regards to principled leadership and moving the ball forward and getting some things done. And Richard talking about building confidence back into government. That is one of the things right now that I believe Donald Trump these next two years has really has to concentrate on because the distrust in government period is literally at an all time high. And we've got to start building some trust back into government or who knows where we'll end up. And by the way, if you build some trust back into this government versus some of the other ones, you'll win again in 2026 and 2028. In fact, it could very easily have a ripple effect into states like Colorado, where we are deep, deep blue. It could even start changing the color of our state if you do some of these things correctly. That's my point. We'll see how that works out. Sonny Kutcher should be joining us here in a few minutes. We're going to talk about... the situation with Lake and Riley and the outcome of that trial. I believe there was an outcome of that today. We'll talk about some of that as soon as we come back. Bruce Simmons is next. He is our reverse mortgage professor. If you've ever thought of a reverse mortgage, talk to Bruce today. Find him at klzradio.com.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Sonny Kutcher joining us now. Sonny, welcome. How are you?
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Always a lovely day when we're talking to your audience.
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Well, thank you. We appreciate it. And always a lovely day talking to you as well. All right. Give us an update on the outcome of the Riley case. I know I've been reading a little bit of the news and some things on that. Even Andy Pate, who's with me on Tuesdays, he and I have been going back and forth a little bit on that. And give us an update for those that maybe haven't seen that.
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Well, Megan Riley's murderer has been found guilty on all charges of, you know, murder and aggravated assault. And just the story of, you know, if you've been listening to any of it at all, which I've tried somewhat hard to actually not pay attention to it just because it's so hard to hear the grueling, you know, cruel story. actions that this Jose Ibarra took on this innocent, beautiful woman, Lake and Riley. But listening today just to some of the clips from family and friends' testimonials about her and their plea to the judge in regards to Ibarra's sentencing, just listening to, you know, just the wonderful person that she was and the life that was taken too soon. And one friend, actually her roommate, was saying that it was really hard to go back to school after all of this had happened or after Lakin had been murdered. And she had to drive by the building where Jose Ibarra was put up by the U.S. government, blown here and put up in this apartment building. at the taxpayer's expense and then went on to take this beautiful American life. And she was just such a passionate person and had such strong values and was really hopeful about her future. So if anything, it actually fuels my fire. It fuels our cause to wake people up to the destruction of these radical left socialist open border policies.
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Did Ibarra ever say why he did this?
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Not to my knowledge.
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I mean, to me, that just, not that I, you know, need to know, but you always have to wonder, you know, what possesses someone, and I get it, he's here illegally and not a good guy to begin with, but I've always just wondered, Sunny, you know, what possesses somebody to do something along these lines in the first place, no matter what country they're from?
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Definitely, I think I think that's a question that a lot of people are asking. I think that, you know, on one hand, my perspective is that many people who are down and out in other countries around the world don't have the same respect for morality and humanity. True. Human life isn't protected in those countries the same way that it is protected here and the way that, you know, over, you know, hundreds of years, we've tried to, you know, innocent until proven guilty and really take respect for the life that we lead in this country. It just isn't that way in other countries. However, that doesn't mean, you know, everybody in other countries is running around murdering people. So obviously there is something deeper there with people who are able to do such cruel acts and have, you know, no remorse for life.
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No, you know what? You bring up a great point. I think the fact that, and this is my fear, this is what you and I talk about on a routine basis, because Marxism devalues life. We, with our Judeo-Christian beliefs, you know, foundation as a country. We value life. We value everyone's life, even the life of the unborn. That's why for us, abortion is such a big deal. The reality, Sonny, is we do. We value every person's life, whether it's, you know, at conception and they're in mom's womb or they're all the way up in, you know, like my father that's in memory care. The reality is we value those lives no matter what end of the spectrum they're on. And Marxism doesn't.
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Absolutely. That's a great point. And I think that that ideology is just ingrained into so many of these countries around the world because of the long history and because America, you know, was founded upon those God given values and freedom. So I think. I think you bring up a great point. And, you know, as we've seen throughout American history, when there have been serial killers that, you know, were, you know, became national news spread out on the front page of The New York Times and whatnot, everyone is like, wow, like, what a horrible guy. That's that's abnormal to have somebody, you know, running around going on a murder spree. That's like, you know, maybe there's something wrong with like this is emotionally or mentally unstable person like that is considered out of the norm now. And really quick, though, let me jump in.
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I mean, on the same token, you know, yes, they'll say that, Sonny, but these will be the same people that will have no problem with aborting a baby all the way up to the day of delivery. It's like, OK, wait a minute, guys, you can't talk out of both sides of your mouth. You can't say that it's OK to abort a baby all the way up until the day of delivery, but yet say these are heinous crimes. Which is it?
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, absolutely. No, I couldn't agree with you more. I was just mentioning in terms of like other countries that they just don't, you know, that's kind of a normal thing because they don't have these values protected. But yes, to your point, leftists just don't see it the same way, you know, because they are, oh, well, he, you know, maybe he just, he doesn't have the resources available to him. And he was, you know, acting out of anger or depression or, you know, he lived a terrible life back where he came from, you know, it's like, okay. And all of that is supposed to be our fault, the American people's fault. We have to pay for the betterment of his life. Well, what about the veterans who serve their country, who put their life on the line for your freedom? What about them? Do our taxpayer money not go to help them get back on their feet?
SPEAKER 03 :
Which, in a lot of cases, we know what veteran suicide is like, and it's way too high. I mean, one is too high, Sonny, but we don't do very much for them, in my opinion. And I've got a son that's a vet, so I know very much how the VA system and a lot of that works. And, no, we don't take care of them the way that we should, and yet we'll make excuses for this sort of a situation. And, again, Sonny, I just struggle. In my mind, I just look at this and think, okay, wait a minute, this is a party. And Andy said something earlier where anybody that voted for the left is culpable in the death of Lake and Riley. And I can't say as I disagree with him at all on that, because the reality is you're voting for the very individuals that do not value life. They don't care that we have an open border. They don't care what criminals are crossing the border and they don't care about the outcome.
SPEAKER 14 :
Not only do they not care, they are complicit. They paid for his way to come here to kill an American woman, a young American woman. They paid for it. They paid for his flight. They paid for his expenses. They paid for his utilities. They paid for his rent. They paid for this. These are the people that approved this and not only have they approved it, but they're actually lying to our faces and saying that this is not a problem.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. No, you you are spot on. I mean, the reality I mean, this to me, it's number one, it's infuriating because of what you just said. And the reality is we've got an entire party. I mean, we had one candidate on the campaign trail that basically sort of poo pooed some of this stuff, if you would. And, yeah, I really feel bad for her family. But yet she never said anything about the fact that she allowed it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely. Yes, that was a major fall point. She wouldn't even say the name and can't even say, oh, well, yes, some mistakes have been made or, you know, yeah, maybe a bad one slipped through the border crack in the crack in the wall in the border wall. You know, it's just it's really disturbing. It is. It is disturbing. And it is about time that, you know, the American people gave a mandate to fix this problem because too many people are dying. I mean, they are complicit. And honestly, I don't think it's I don't think it's absurd to say that the administration has been complicit in many, many deaths. in this country because of the fentanyl, because of these murders that have happened. And I'm really, the silver lining is to see Americans uniting on this front and coming together and saying that we're not going to allow this to happen to more families. Just those poor, poor families just breaks my heart. And I think that Her life will touch, just as her friend said in her testimonial, her life will continue to touch the lives of so many people and inspire a movement to bring morality and humanity back to our country and to be a leader in the world to show that we will not allow this type of inhumane activity, the trafficking, the criminality, the drugs pouring in to happen on our border.
SPEAKER 03 :
I agree, and again, I'm getting text messages along these lines talking about the very thing that you and I are covering, and people are absolutely, Sonny, they're sickened, to your point a moment ago, they're outraged like I am as well. I mean, I'm sickened and outraged as well. The reality is we have literally not just, to your point earlier, not only allowed this to happen, we have... Make sure you're using the right words. We have invited this to happen. Anytime you pay for these things out of our taxpayer dollars, you're inviting this. It's not only that we have allowed it, we've invited it, making it even one step worse.
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely. We've invited it. We've paid for it. We've allowed it to happen. We've lied that it's happening and also continue to gaslight you and tell you that nothing is happening and that this is actually a great thing for the country.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, it's absolutely, again, it is sickening. But this is where you guys come into play. I want to make a dovetail back into, you know, Young Americans Against Socialism. The reality is what I said earlier about Marxism, that is at the crux. of everything that we're talking about, because at its core, it doesn't value life. It really doesn't care what's going on at the end of the day. They'll act like they do, and I mean that sincerely, Sonny. They'll act like they do, but at the end of the day, their actions speak louder than words, and the reality is they don't care about people any way, shape, or form. That's at the crux of Marxism. In fact, the more lives you destroy, the better off Marxism is.
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely. And I would say that the second layer of that is the deception because they are so good at packaging this lie. That's really all it is. It's just a lie that they care about you, that they're doing this because they care about you. humanity because they care about you and the morals that this country supposedly stands for. They actually stomp on the morals and values that this country was founded upon, and it is a complete lie, and you're right, they do not value life, and that is why they're so able to act this way, behave this way, and truly have been steering the direction of our country and our world into a dark cavernous pit of hell. And the American people are not going to stand for it anymore.
SPEAKER 03 :
Nope. And hopefully with this particular administration, we'll see some changes along those lines. And I think we will, frankly, when it comes out. I think you look at some of the appointments that are even going into cabinet positions and so on. I believe full well that we're going to see some changes along those lines. All right. Back to Young Americans Against Socialism. How do folks know? Go ahead, Sonny. Go ahead. No, I didn't mean to interrupt you. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I'll definitely just, you know, let us know, let you know about our organization. But I would just like to say that, you know, I feel like the American people are also not falling for these lies that this is about, you know, racism or anti-immigration or anti-immigrant rather, because this country has been built. you know, by hands of immigrants, and we very much value that when they want to come the legal way and add value to the American society. So I think that's something that the American people truly believe in and stand strongly for, and they're not falling for these lies that if you, you know, support the conviction of this... beautiful woman's murderer that that makes you a racist because, oh, he came from another country, you know. So I think that that's something that we're also reclaiming is that we are a country of rules. We have law and order. And if you want to come here legally, that's, you know, then we will welcome you with open arms. But that's not what this issue is about.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. Absolutely. All right. So how do folks find you?
SPEAKER 14 :
You can find us at YAS.org, Y-A-A-S.org. And we're really excited about the next phase of Young Americans. We really want to bring together a community of advocates for freedom who will help unite the world internationally to share stories of survivors of communist regimes and people who have suffered from this type of tyranny all over the world. We really just want you to get involved because we need to capitalize on this momentum. We have the wind in our backs in the freedom movement, and we really would love to share this moment with you and share our progress with you. So yes.org, you can donate there. We are so grateful for your support and definitely donate and give to be a part of the next movement. faith and future of young Americans against socialism, and we would love to just educate and inspire the next generation of Americans so that they can preserve these values that fuel freedom.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, in closing, Sunny, I've gotten several text messages in. People love listening to you. They want to encourage you to keep doing what you're doing. I've got one texter that just texted a moment ago that said, I pulled into the driveway listening at the bottom of the hour. I haven't gotten out of the truck yet because I love hearing what Sunny has to say. and they are in full support of what you're doing. So keep doing what you're doing, and we'll keep talking to you on a weekly basis, and I appreciate all that you're doing, Sonny. I really mean that. Thank you.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, thank you so much. It puts a smile on my face to be the fuel that other people need to stay in this fight and not lose hope and to be encouraged.
SPEAKER 03 :
Amen. Keep it up, Sonny. Thank you very much.
SPEAKER 14 :
Thank you.
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SPEAKER 06 :
All right, we are back. Joe, what's going on today, sir? John, with regard to the Lincoln-Riley trial, there's been a very subtle nuance that not many people were aware of. The defendant requested a bench trial, which meant trial by judge, not a jury.
SPEAKER 03 :
Not by jury, right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Now, do you know why his lawyer recommended he do that?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, because I think this judge is not a death penalty guy, so he knows that he wouldn't end up on death row, is my guess.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, actually, they asked for a bench trial because the judge has no power to sentence him to death. Let me read you from the judge.
SPEAKER 03 :
So he can't even do that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. Here's the only way you can get a death penalty in Georgia. And I'm reading from the statute, a sentence of death shall not be imposed unless the jury verdict includes a finding of at least one statutory aggravating circumstance and a recommendation that such sentence be imposed. So without a jury, the judge was powerless to impose a death sentence. And that's why, and I'm pretty sure his lawyer said, look, this goes before a jury court. They're probably going to find your butt guilty.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, he would not live.
SPEAKER 06 :
He would not live. So I think it was a – it's a very subtle point. But the judge, in the absence of a jury verdict, did not have the authority to impose a death penalty. So I think that was a very shrewd move on his part.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I guess give the defense attorney some credit. Yep. I mean, he kept his client alive, I guess, at the end of the day. That's his job, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
That's his job. But, John, I don't think there's one person in a thousand knows that the judge didn't have the authority. the unilateral authority to impose it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Now that you explain all of that, that makes full sense. And I only read a little bit about that today, Joe. I mean, honestly, I haven't kept up on that one just because it's making national news, so that stuff will come out. But to your point, I guess at the end of the day, his attorney, which we're paying for, by the way, you and I, did a good job.
SPEAKER 06 :
Did a good job and kept the SOB alive for the rest of his life. Maybe he'll get shanked in the prison somewhere.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, you know, that's one where they're going to have to probably make sure they pay really close attention to him or he's liable to not make it. And, by the way, it wouldn't hurt my feelings anyways.
SPEAKER 06 :
You mean we're not going to have a national day of mourning?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, no, not me. I'd have a national day of celebration. That guy doesn't deserve to live, in my opinion.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, he doesn't. Not with what he did.
SPEAKER 03 :
Not with what he did.
SPEAKER 06 :
And anyway, so that's just a little inside.
SPEAKER 03 :
And really quick, too, Joe, just a side note, don't have a lot of time here, but taking a gift that's been given to you, coming to America on a free dime, being put up, being able to really come here and have an entire future ahead of you. And you do what with it, Joe? Yep. Makes no sense to me whatsoever.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, you take somebody else's life and you throw your own life away.
SPEAKER 03 :
It makes no sense. I mean, you've had a grand gift given to you on a silver platter and you blow it. You blow it. Yep. Anyways, that's another topic probably another day, but I don't get it, Joe. All right. All right, John. Appreciate you saying that. Thank you very much. And somebody, by the way, thank you. I've got great listeners. You guys are all just top notch. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I can't say that enough. Somebody sent me the Milton Friedman clip. You guys went out and found it, sent it to me. I will do my very best to play that after we have a guest. Drew Yancey is going to join us at the top of 5 o'clock. Scott Garlis should be joining us at 5.30. I need to double-check to make sure Scott's on board. I think he is. But either way, he should be able to play that after Drew Yancey and let you guys listen in on that. So thank you, by the way, for going out and finding that for me. I appreciate that. I need to do a better job of when I'm watching those things and then adding them into my notes. But sometimes I'm watching those things just – in passing and yeah i need to be a better radio host and start doing that on a better way but thank you i have great listeners and you guys do a great job of of covering up for me so i appreciate that very much we'll be back in a moment american national insurance is next make sure that you are insured and properly insured and paul can do that for you he can broker things out as well if you're looking for business insurance and things along those lines uh he's expanding things he can do more now than he's even been able to do in the past so give him a call three 303-662-0789.
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SPEAKER 03 :
And Joe, thank you, by the way, for the update, because I was reading a few articles today on Lake and Riley and some of the trial and different things, and I haven't read one thing yet that really said everything that Joe said. Now, of course, that's not going to make it into the mainstream media. You're not going to find that at Yahoo.com or anything along those lines. All you're finding there is what the verdict was. was and you know what came out of it and so on and thank you joe for the update because you're not going to find that at least not the articles that i've read so far there's nothing in any of these that talk about what joe just said a moment ago and again going back to what i talked about we have really fabulous fantastic smart listeners because you guys really add value into the program because it's it's not all me it can't be i'll just say it straight up there's far too many things going on in the world where I personally, there's no way I could keep up on all of it. If it wasn't for folks like all of you that text in, a lot of you that email and send me articles, Charlie, who does a lot of digging and sending me different things throughout the week and during the show itself. And then on top of that, the great listeners that we have that call in like Joe, it's literally, it is a community. of all of you adding value to what we do here daily. And I'm just fortunate enough to be able to sit in front of the microphone and sort of manage all of this and give you guys the information that comes my way. So I am very, very thankful for each and every one of them as we head down the road into Thanksgiving. I cannot say that enough. I really am truly thankful for all of you and what you do. You make this job worthwhile. And I learn something every single day that I'm here, not just in the studying that I do, but in hearing from each and every one of you on a regular basis as well. All right, another hour coming your way. Don't go anywhere. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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The Rich Guy.
