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We’re an independent voice on an independent station, searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. It’s not compassionate to take other people’s stuff, whether or not it’s their rights, their property, freedom, livelihoods, opportunities, their childhood, or their lives via force. And force can obviously be a weapon, but it can be policy and unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, the World Economic Forum agenda, the globalist elites agenda. Played out with the United Nations, this Colorado state legislature, this Colorado governor. Then they used land use codes and zoning regulations, force fees, conservation easements, national monument designations. We’re going to talk with Virginia Maka regarding these transmission line corridors here a little bit later today in the show. And all that, if you own your property, but somebody else, the government, somebody else controls it, then you don’t really own your property. And that has been occurring for quite some time here in America. We’ve got to get that walked back. Remember, if something is a good idea, you should not need to use force to implement it. On the show, we focus on the issues, and we’ll talk about the people pushing those issues. We work to stay out of all this personality stuff, which is… It’s easy to get into it, but we’re trying to stay focused on the issues here on the show. The show can be heard 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. The first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. The second hour is broadcast 10 to 11 at night. That’s on all KLZ 560 platforms. That’s, let’s see, KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, and the KLZ app. So let’s jump in here. Our word of the day is portentous, and it is spelled P-O-R-T-E-N-T-O-U-S. It could be relating to a portent, so suspense, as in a portentous foreshadowing. It could be eliciting amazement or wonder. Number three, being a grave or serious matter or self-consciously solemn or important. So I would say that the issues that we are facing in America today are portentous issues. And we I’m so grateful that Donald Trump and company is working to get government back into its proper role at the federal level. Government is also out of control at the local, the county and the state level as well. So while Donald Trump is working diligently there at the federal level, we need to be engaging here in our own communities, in our own state. And that is one of the reasons why we do the show. Our quote of the day, since I have Virginia Maka on, she is the founder of Stand for the Land Kansas. And I thought, let’s do a quote from somebody famous from Kansas. And I did not realize this, but Amelia Earhart was born in 1897 in Atchison, Kansas, and she was declared dead on January 5, 1939. She disappeared July 2, 1937 over the Pacific Ocean while attempting to become the first female pilot to circumnavigate the world. During her life, Earhart embraced celebrity culture and women’s rights, and since her disappearance has become a global cultural figure. She was the first female pilot to fly solo nonstop across the Atlantic Ocean and set many other records. She was one of the first aviators to promote commercial air travel, wrote best-selling books about her flying experiences, and was instrumental in the formation of the 99s, an organization for female pilots. And she said this, and my father always said this to me as well. She said, you can do anything that you decide to do. Again, that’s Amelia Earhart and a fellow Kansan. And our quote, let’s see, our bill of the day is House Bill 25-1073, and this is protecting children against rape. And the summary on it is concerning criminal sentencing for persons who commit certain types of sexual assault on his child and in connection therewith requiring a mandatory minimum period of incarceration for a class four and class three felony. And the sponsors on this are Representative Brandy Bradley and Representative Regina English. So that is great. This is bipartisan. And it is to be heard. Oh, let’s see. I thought that was on schedule for this week, but I’m not seeing it yet. It was introduced on January 8th. So that is our bill of the day and good for Brandy Bradley for bringing that forward and also getting Democrat Regina English on there as well. So that is great. Let’s see. Some of these headlines I wanted to go through. This first one is from The Daily Caller. And it says Tom Holman reminds AOC he once had to educate her about basic border law as the two are publicly back and forth. And he said that in 2019, Holman stopped Ocasio-Cortez’s attack against him during a congressional hearing where he had to inform her that border laws mirrored U.S. laws when discussing family separation. On Sunday Morning Futures with Maria Bartiromo, the Fox News host asked Homan for his response to AOC, who had recently posted on X, stating Homan should learn to read and start with the Constitution in response to his Department of Justice warning. It says, look, I forgot more about the Constitution and immigration enforcement than she’ll ever know. I mean, I had to educate her during the congressional testimony that entering a country illegally is a crime. But what she needs to do is read the statutes enacted by Congress. Title VIII, United States Code 1324 and 25, that’s what she needs to read because it’s illegal to enter this country. He went on to say, not only that, when you harbor and conceal and impede law enforcement, that’s a felony. So what she’s doing, she says she’s educating them to their constitutional rights. Well, we all know they’ve got constitutional rights, but what she’s really doing, and I and the rest of the country know, is that she’s trying to teach them how to evade law enforcement. And certainly she’s getting help with from a number of NGOs on that as well. Next headline, this is from Just the News, and it is the Biden Treasury Department emails show coordination with left wing organizations on tax policy and messaging. says these documents reveal Treasury officials exhibiting much of the worst of the Biden administration, the overreach of statutory authority, outsourcing policymaking to outside special interest groups, and dealing harshly with dissenting views, Michael Chamberlain said. And these are newly disclosed. And this coordination… It is really unconscionable that this has been occurring. But it says public records from the Treasury Department were obtained by Protect the Public’s Trust via Freedom of Information Act requests, which include documents that show these emails between Biden Treasury Department officials and employees of left-wing nonprofits. In the emails, the officials and nonprofits worked together on developing these talking points and policy, showing a very close relationship where the latter had sway over the former. So you can see, my friends, with this particular story, why the deep state is making all this noise to try to prevent Doge, President Trump, Elon Musk from getting in here and looking at these records. And that is why that’s why it’s so important that we have transparency, transparency in our government. And that is that’s they’re working hard on that. And we’re seeing the opposition start to get more and more organized with many of the headlines that you’re seeing trying to influence democracy. public opinion. Next thing, I thought this was pretty interesting. This is a la carte of Venezuela. This is from the LA Times. It says, is California government considering oil refinery takeovers? Yes, it is. It says Russia, China, Venezuela, Iran, more than a dozen countries make gasoline at state-owned refineries. Now, just notice that list. Could California be next on the list? It says California policymakers are considering state ownership of one or more oil refineries. One item on a list of options presented by the California Energy Commission to ensure steady gas supplies as oil companies pull back from the refinery business in the state. Well… It’s like, wait a minute, you guys are trying to shut them down and now you want to take them over. And it says the state recognizes that they’re on a pathway to more refinery conclosures, said Skip York, chief energy strategist on Energy Consultant Network. At energy consultant Turner Mason and company, the risk to consumers and the state’s economy, he said, is gasoline supply disappearing faster than consumer demand, resulting in fuel shortages, higher prices and severe logistical challenges. It says gasoline demand is falling in California. I find that hard to believe for two reasons. It says more efficient gasoline engines and increasing number of electric vehicles on the road. Gasoline consumption in California peaked in 2005 and fell 15 percent through 2023, according to the Union of Concerned Scientists. Anyway, let’s just let you ruminate on that one. And California is out of control, but we’re not far behind. And then lastly, this is from Animal Planet says philanthropists promises seven hundred and seventy one million dollars annually after the U.S. exits from the climate accords. And again, this is from Bloomberg, and he ran for president. And what we’re realizing with this whole Green New Deal is it’s the green that is going into people’s pockets. However, it looks like Bloomberg is going to step up and try to fund some of this Paris Climate Accord deal. So again, all of these different entities are trying to undercut what the Trump administration is attempting to do. And to understand this whole issue regarding climate a bit more, be sure and check out the documentary, A Climate Conversation. This is the project of Walt Johnson. He and his wife, Ramey, funded it. He wanted to have an honest conversation about this. He’s a geophysicist, has been a geophysicist for over 50 years. And you can watch it for free at aclimatconversation.com. We also have a great podcast series with a number of excellent guests on that as well. So be sure and check that out. And the show comes to you because of our sponsors. And one of those great sponsors is the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team. 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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. and wanted to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from natural gas, oil, and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate, meaning to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer. Please have on the line with me Priscilla Rahn. She’s a friend of mine. She is a teacher. She really cares deeply about our county, our state, our country. She has been a candidate for different offices here, and I really appreciate her stepping up to the line here to make that happen. So welcome, Priscilla Rahn. Good morning, Kim.
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It’s great to be on with you this morning.
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Well, it’s good to have you as well. And you had texted something over to me that you were really concerned regarding an interaction that you had with Colorado State Representative Regina English. So set this up for us.
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Yeah, so basically the general reason why I’m on your show is to talk about freedom of speech. Um, I’m really passionate about this. I teach my students about this and I’ve been doing a lot of research and it’s a little complicated because it has to do with the, an interaction on social media. So we know that the left is really upset with, uh, Elon Musk, president Trump, and the Doge audits that are happening. One, um, very vocal Congresswoman, Congresswoman Crockett from Texas has been going viral with her videos saying it’s unconstitutional and just being really critical. State Representative Regina English posted a video of Congresswoman Crockett on her Facebook page. And I simply responded under that post that I felt like this is something that we the people voted for. We wanted accountability and transparency in our government. And then Representative English responded, well, I don’t think you really understand what Congresswoman Crockett is saying. And then I responded, I can hear exactly what she’s saying. And just to bring it home locally, we, the people really want lower taxes in our government. And we want the state legislature to stop coming after our Tabor. That’s essentially all I said. At that time, Representative English deleted my comments and sent me a private message. And I’m just paraphrasing because you have the whole exchange in front of you that, you know, she’s not going to do this back and forth on her social media. And then I asked her, did you delete my comments? And she said, I delete and block people all the time. And I said, I think that’s illegal. And to which she replied, no. you know, if you want to go ahead and report me, go ahead, but I’m not, you know, I don’t have to. And then she used the word harassment, which was not the case and not the definition by the state. And then she referenced a bill that I looked up from 2023 that was originated by Representative Harrod, who was dealing with her own battles at the Capitol with her staff, exposing some of her behavior as a boss with her employees. And so this is really interesting because we’re in an interesting time where elected officials have been sued on the Republican side and lost. for blocking and deleting constituents, but yet somehow, well, we’re not surprised. Democrats have the majority in our state, so they have a high level of arrogance to say, I don’t have to listen to you post an opposing view on my Facebook page, which she does business, you know, political business, but it’s very crafty language, Kim, in this bill around political Who’s paying? Is your Facebook page paid for by the state or not? But does that really qualify as you can just delete and block anybody for any reason? I feel like that’s an infringement on our First Amendment.
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No, Priscilla, I think you are really nailing it. And I remember seeing that bill as we were doing our review of which bills to take positions on for the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. And… I remember seeing that bill and I thought, huh, this is really interesting. I wonder how this is going to play out. I wonder if this is actually going to be used to shut down people’s voices. And Priscilla, it seems to me like the radical activists left us. And this legislation that we see occurring down at the Statehouse, Really, it’s a bill mill down there. I checked this morning. There’s been 458 bills that have been introduced down at the statehouse this year, if you can believe it. But the radical activists, extremists left are playing long ball. So here back in 2023, that piece of legislation is passed. And here now in 2025, Representative English is hiding behind that, trying to shut down discourse. And certainly we should be able to have opposing views, but the left doesn’t want to have any opposing views, do they?
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No, no. And what Regina is actually doing as an elected official is supporting the erosion of free speech. She didn’t want to take the time to see and hear my points if they were valid. And if we’re going to engage in this experiment called democracy, you know, next year we’re celebrating our 250th year as a country, as a nation. If she’s going to engage in this experiment of democracy, then representatives are going to have to engage with ideas so we the people can govern ourselves. And so this is the battle. This is why I’m coming on your show, because when a state legislator that has the power to say, go ahead and report me, I’m a schoolteacher. So that means either I have to sue, which costs a lot of money. I could go to the ACLU, which I did, but good luck to me getting the ACLU to help me with this free speech debate. Or I can go to the people, which is what I’m doing, calling my resources and going on the radio and using the airwaves and writing op-eds to say this is wrong. This is not the way our representative government is supposed to run. And I think that this needs to change. And legislators can’t hide behind. I think it’s cowardly to say I don’t want to engage or hear an opposing view around taxes, transparency, TABOR. simply because I don’t have the bandwidth or the tolerance to hear an opposing view. I almost feel like she’s saying, how dare you? You can go talk about it in your silo, but don’t come to my public Facebook page, because it’s not private. It’s her public Facebook page, and present an opposing view and engage me in a dialogue about it.
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yeah and and the one of the first there is a reason why the freedom of speech is uh in the first amendment Absolutely, Priscilla. The freedom of speech is in the First Amendment because that is one of the first things. Once you start to shut down speech, then you shut down the kicking around of ideas. And if an idea can’t pass the mustard of being engaged and challenged, then maybe it’s not a very good idea, right? Right.
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Exactly. And we have to get bolder. I mean, we’ve got an opportunity in a window where we can express ideas and finally get people in the state legislature to turn their heads and say, you know, there are federal expectations that are coming down around transparency and the audits and how taxpayer dollars are used. I think it’s best that our state legislators get on board. And, you know, I don’t know. I’m still looking at the bill’s They should be going through all of the draconian bills down at the state capitol and eliminating those. I don’t know if they’re actually doing that, if they’re continually trying to introduce new bills. Why aren’t they cutting waste? And I don’t see that happening. And I think that’s the main thing that, you know, why Trump won was because people are tired of the inflation, the cost of living. And we’re still talking about eggs and energy and home prices. And these are real issues. And if I can’t even talk about that one simple issue. issue with a state legislator that I had a good relationship with. I mean, I had a very good relationship with Regina English and I thought it was a quote unquote safe place for me to say, hey, You know, here’s where, you know, I want to back you. If you’re going to be able to push back against your party and stand up to protect Tabor and start cutting taxes and fees and bag fees and all of these things that are just nickel and diming the people, then, you know, I’ll support you in that. But I was really, really shocked at the response that I got.
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Yeah. It is really shocking, and I think, Priscilla, actually it takes courage for you to come on radio to talk about this as well because it just does. It takes courage to do that, so I really appreciate that. So is there any action items or anything that you want listeners to take right now? What would you recommend?
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Well, I recommend that people reach out to Representative English and let her know that that’s inappropriate for her to silence speech and that we expect her to engage in free speech and stop eroding free speech in our state and that we expect her not to go after our Tabor. I know our people on our side continue to do that, but we’re tired of fighting this conversation. We’ve spoken. We don’t want the state to take away our Tabor, but they’re constantly coming after us and we want accountability in our government. And we want fairness. And so I would just encourage people to do what they’re continually doing, which is send letters, make phone calls, and speak up when you see things. Yes, it takes courage. I’m in the minority in the state, but this is why our founding fathers put this in the First Amendment. We have a right. It’s protected. And I’m going to continue to sound the bullhorn on this issue until she changes her behavior.
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Well, and let’s just drill down a little bit more about what is the real issue here. And that is, is that Donald Trump and company is going through and working to find more and more transparency on what has been occurring in our country. And what we are seeing is, is this a radical activist extremist that’s played out with the Biden-Harris administration. that they have been fleecing. They’ve been fleecing the American people. And there are those that don’t want the American people to actually realize that. And so I think that that’s what is probably playing out here with Representative English and this congresswoman from Texas, is they don’t want people to really understand what’s going on. So they’re creating all this noise, but yet they don’t want anybody to have a conversation about it because they want to control the narrative. That’s the bottom line, yes?
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A hundred percent. A hundred percent. And so, you know, I think we’re still winning on this narrative because the majority of Americans voted for this. We’re getting exactly what we expected to get, which is the accountability. And I think we just keep being louder because, you know, they think they’re loud, but we’ve got to be louder in saying we think this is absolutely appropriate. And by the way, Other presidents have done exactly what President Trump is doing. Obama did it. Biden did it. So it’s just the narrative, and I’m really getting sick and tired of The Democrats saying, you know, Trump’s a white supremacist and Musk is a white supremacist. And that is really, really lame. And as a black conservative, I really don’t buy into that narrative because I know who our president is. And this isn’t about black or white or race or anything. It’s about finally we have representatives who are serving the people.
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Okay. Hey, and Priscilla, just clarify for me, you said that Obama did this, that Biden did this. What exactly are you referencing there?
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Where they created a, they passed, I can send you the video. They passed, I guess it was an executive order for transparency in the government, specifically bypassing Congress, because that’s the argument. They’re saying this audit has to go through Congress. The left is saying that, but other presidents have bypassed Congress to do exactly what President Trump is doing. I’m happy to send you the video for that.
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OK, perfect. That’s awesome. Priscilla, Ron, thank you so much for reaching out and sharing your story. And thank you for your courage in doing so, because the bottom line, freedom of speech is one of the bedrocks of the whole American idea. So thank you for stepping forward on this. I really appreciate it. And thank you for having me on, Kim. Gosh, and we have all this happen because of our great sponsors. And so for everything regarding residential real estate, you want to make sure that you have Karen Levine on your side of the table.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And as many of you know, I grew up on the plains of western Kansas, which I dearly love. And so pleased to get connected with Virginia Maka, who is a, I’m a Coloradan and I’m a Kansan, if you can be both. But she is the founder of Stand for the Land Kansas. And really, she’s a real patriot standing for property rights. Virginia Maka, welcome to the show. Good morning, Kim from Kansas. It’s very cold here. I hear that. I hear it’s very chilly. It’s that global warming, Virginia.
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I know, and I just can’t get enough of that global warming. I think President Trump may have an answer for that.
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Yeah, it is. That whole thing is being used, really, I think, to take more and more control of Americans’ property and also to, ultimately, if we continue down this road, it would bankrupt America and the West. So let’s talk about, well, let’s talk a little bit about you, first of all, Virginia, because you have… You’re the founder of Stand for the Land Kansas, and you understand this issue regarding property rights, and property rights are inherent in the American idea, the idea that everyday ordinary people can own most of their properties. A little bit is supposed to be used for taxes for government, but the The bulk of it is supposed to be ours. And what happens? Well, everyday people can create wealth and thrive and prosper for themselves and their families, and that’s under attack, Virginia. So tell us how you got into this battle and a little bit about you.
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So, Kim, I grew up in southeast Kansas. I’m a lifelong Kansan. I retired, a retired engineer, and me and my husband were getting ready to retire, and I found myself Like a lot of people during COVID, the future wasn’t clear. And when you’re retiring, your future is always clear. You know, you have a plan. And I found myself in the middle of a utility battle. And I was standing with generational farms that really didn’t have a voice and didn’t really know. how to approach a political problem because that’s what it is. And out of that battle, I realized this was a much bigger battle that I had just stumbled on to probably the beginning of the takeover of Kansas, our state, and the repurposing in the name of climate change and net zero that our state would not, in agriculture state any longer. And so stand for the land, uh, arose out of an imminent, imminent domain, a threat to most of us. And from that, I had no idea that property owners, that we did a survey before we passed, you know, started legislation and 86% of those property owners that saw That Google ad went straight to Stanford Land to find out what was going on because they felt it too. So if 86% of the people understand eminent domain, that is when I decided this is a battle worth taking. And it’s an education battle. It’s building leaders and building your bench at the local level. And I really feel like in my lifetime, I’ve been able to live the American dream. And when you don’t see that American dream being achievable by anyone coming up the ranks, it was a really sad realization for me. And so freedom, as your prior guest had talked about, Without freedom, there is no achieving anything without freedom. And our land is the one thing, our first line of defense to protect our freedoms. And I realized that really quickly when we were being silenced at our own state legislature No one would stand with us. The attacks and the power at the lobby that was there. So in these last three years, I’ve become an educator, and I have been educated almost every day in this battle. So that’s kind of where I’m at. I enjoy helping people, but it’s like… When they tell you their story, it lays on your heart. So it’s devastating to them, but it just makes me have more go. Like we have to achieve something here. We have to at least, you know, have a Jake break so that we can stop and think about what we’re doing because I don’t think anybody in that arena that doesn’t stand with us is a bad person. They just don’t have the courage. And maybe they, when you get into those whirlwinds, you kind of just go along with the crowd, kind of like the ocean just kind of pushes you along. And it’s a lot of pressure up there for them. I understand that.
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And you’re speaking of electeds primarily?
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Elected officials. Okay. You know, It’s really about not being scared, showing people courage, and giving other people the permission to be as courageous. And that’s what we have seen in 31 of our counties. At the local level, this last election, we started seating and looking at county commissioners because solar, industrial solar farms, four and 8,000 acre farms, were swallowing us in Southeast Kansas. And so, uh, that was, um, evident we needed to change something. And it was very unique to sit back for once, but I didn’t really sit back, but to sit back and watch those people that you allowed to, to rise, to be the leader of their groups, take action. And it was, um, It encouraged me that there are still people willing to fight for freedom in an American dream and make life better for those people in their counties. So it’s been very—it’s not a political fight. It’s not an R or a D. It’s about—it’s an attack on Americans. on those people that were born and loved this country. It is an attack. And it’s nice to know that three years ago you couldn’t find five people that would follow me. And, you know, this far down the road, the ranks have grown so large that it’s hard for me to get back to people because I’m trying to get information out there and, um, you know, make sure people are aware. So it’s been fun. And, and thanks to you, Kim and your show, because I had a lot of calls from Colorado and I, I have a couple of special friends there now who are doing the same thing. And, uh, they are, they’re warriors.
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And so, um,
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And your show does a lot.
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Well, thank you, Virginia. And I’m so excited that we got connected. And it’s via one of my cousins back in Kansas. So I’m really grateful that this has happened. So ultimately, I think that, and I have this in air quotes, the Green New Deal, these industrial solar complexes and these wind projects, industrial wind complexes, it really has been a land grab. And eminent domain is being used by not necessarily government entities, but some of these companies that are building these transmission lines or, well, I guess it’s primarily the transmission lines right now that is the eminent domain question, right?
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It is. So citing a transmission line. you have to use eminent domain because there’s a lot of people that will, they don’t care to have transmission on their land, nor go through their towns. These transmission lines aren’t just what we know as transmission. They’re 345 kilovolts and up. And so you have to worry about health and electromagnetic fields and Um, our new, um, health secretary had, he did a, um, uh, he touched on the, uh, electromagnetic fields and the worry of that crossing our lands. We’re talking about 400 and 500 mile, 500 kilovolt lines, um, DC power. And that power is, is very strong and. No one cares to talk about the cancer or any other health effects, much less what it can do to your land in the way of growth and change soil content. So we’re talking about five and 10 mile wide corridors and 400, 500 mile lines.
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Yeah, I don’t understand why the corridors have to be that wide, even if you did think it was a great idea. And the other thing, Virginia, is to connect the dot from rural to urban, is that these things, as they affect the soil, as they affect the land, as they take more and more land out of production, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that that is going to affect our food source, right? And that will play out in certainly higher prices at the grocery store. And also, ultimately, it could be shortages. So that’s an important dot to connect for people, Virginia.
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You know, we are the breadbasket of America, of the world. In Kansas, we have been known as the breadbasket for ever since I was a small child. And to think that you would repurpose Kansas and turn it into a, a solar desert. You know, I just couldn’t fan that people that I saw in the arena standing up for these solar farms would agree with that. And that’s probably, it took me a long time to get over, but it’s just because they’re not educated. So once you change the soil, I follow a lot of scientists. Japan seems to have scientists that really are meticulous with their data. And as an engineer, that is what I’ve always done this entire time being in this arena is follow the data. You know, follow the studies. See what they’re using. And so… The craziest thing is they have leveled across the United States on every state areas where they say social justice, social justice, we have to, this area is, you know, deprived because of gasoline costs or transportation. And then you get all these tax credits. And so in the last probably two months, I’ve learned about
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refundable or transferable tax credit okay we’re going to talk about that yeah let’s go to break i’m talking with virginia maca she is the founder of stand for the land kansas we’ve got a bill like that right now here in colorado and again uh these legislators i don’t think many of them are are creating this legislation i think that there are interested parties that are coming in and shopping this legislation and getting a legislator to carry it. And certainly, on the other side, we do have legislators that are trying to push back on all that. But we have that piece of legislation like that right now here in Colorado. I’m talking with Virginia Maka, and these are such important discussions. They happen because of our sponsors. For everything mortgages, reach out to Lauren Levy.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That’s Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email us at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you shouldn’t have to force people to do it. Pleased to have on the line with me, Virginia Maka. She is the founder of Stand for the Land Kansas. She retired and now she’s busier probably than she ever was because she’s uncovered this agenda that ultimately will kick off I would say farmers and ranchers off their land, maybe not figuratively, but the fact that they will not be able to do what they want with their land, that’s a way of kicking them off their land. So, Virginia, you had alluded to these tax credits. And tax credits ultimately come down to treating people differently. It’s the government trying to push an agenda. And these tax credits for these, what do you call it? These refundable tax credits has been a way to control things. And people have been able to trade these tax credits. We shouldn’t have them. What do you think is the Trump administration? Do they understand the danger, danger with all this?
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You know, I think president Trump understands that in that, where he’s at in that arena, you’re trying to, uh, put, uh, priorities and these secretaries, uh, we, we can’t get them the appointees in fast enough. So Doge has been one of the greatest things that’s ever happened in government. Because now there’s no wall between us and transparency. And so it’s not whether, you know, you believe it or not. It’s that Doge is actually presenting you documentation of the corruption and where our tax money is going. When you’re only in debt, say $8 trillion, and then 2020 hits and you look at the clock ticking and it’s almost $40 trillion, it should take your breath away because it’s robbing you, your kids, your grandkids of anything good that this country’s ever stood for. And so refundable tax credits are going to cost us $8.7 trillion in the next 10 years. And these are transferable. So they’re like liquid cash and they’re not taxable. They’re not considered income. So this is the target that has been put on every landowner. that is in one of these tax credit districts and it mostly covers all of us in Kansas. There’s very few areas that some kind of tax credit doesn’t exist for clean energy or climate change. And in your state, Kim, you still have a corridor coming at you. I haven’t been able to investigate the tax credits that are in that, but I have a map that actually has probably 50, 60 layers on it. And every time I undo a layer, the metadata hooked to that layer refers to another tax credit. And it just boggles my mind. Because like Elon Musk said, you throw a dart in any direction, anywhere, and you hit corruption. You hit government waste. You hit non-transparency. And like you said, those bills that are showing up at your state, they’re being written by think tanks, and they’re being passed in every state.
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um across the across the board so uh it’s a bad policy it is so we’ve got two minutes left virginia and first of all if people i know i’ve you’ve talked with a number of my friends here from colorado what is the best way for people to reach out and reach you follow you at stand for the land kansas.com is the website what’s the best way to just contact you through the website or what
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Join up. You’ll get an update. I don’t send a lot of emails out. And when I do, it is a five alarm fire that has been uncovered. So I like to keep that pretty fresh, the articles. And my phone number is on there. If you have a crisis Or you just realized that a lease is going to take your land. Call me because I have friends almost everywhere in every state, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Iowa, Missouri. I have contacts there now that we, uh, we try to guide people to those people. And I think that is the communication waking up in the communication is key. And do your own research, not on the federal level, on your local level. See what your local government’s been doing. Go to a county commission meeting, and the first question they’ll ask you is, what are you doing here?
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Right, I know.
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It’s a flag. So anyway, no, if they have a serious problem, I always take phone calls. My number’s right there on the website. Okay. And I take text messages. You just tell me who you are and I will do everything I can to help you. And right now I’m involved in a lawsuit. So actually an amicus brief. For the first lawsuit in Kansas, that’s going to take on Janet Yellen, the U.S. treasurer, at the time where these transferable tax credits were put into effect.
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Virginia Maka, this is awesome. I’ve got to get you back on the show. We’re out of time. Thank you, first of all. I’m just honored to call you a fellow Kansan. Thank you for what you’re doing. That’s Virginia Maka. You can find her at StandForTheLandKansas.com. We will have her back on very soon. Virginia, keep it up. Thank you, Kim. Our quote for the end of the show is from Amelia Earhart, who was born in Kansas. She said, if enough of us keep trying, we’ll get someplace. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. And stay tuned for our number two.
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Yeah, and great information from Virginia Maka. We’ll have to get her on the show again very soon. Property rights are inherent in the American idea and they are totally under attack. You may think you own your property, but if somebody else is controlling it, you don’t really own your property. So we’ll continue those discussions. Check out the website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You’ll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays that goes out on Sundays. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com. The text line is 720-605-0647. Do want to hear from you. Thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And the show comes to you 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. First hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour, 10 to 11 at night. That is on all KLZ platforms. That’s KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM. the KLZ website and the KLZ app. Within 24 hours, we have the show posted on the website with a summary and also the podcast. And the podcast can also be heard on Spotify and iTunes and all of those platforms. different streaming services uh Hooters restaurants has been a great sponsor of the show for many years and it’s a really important story about freedom and free markets and capitalism and how I got to know them you can find that at my website but they have five locations Loveland Aurora Lone Tree Westminster and Colorado Springs and a great place to get together Monday through Friday for lunch because they have great specials or a happy hour but you can find all that information at my website our word of the day is portentous and it’s p-o-r-t-e-n-t-o-u-s it’s an adjective uh it could be of or relating to um suspense or foreshadowing number two eliciting amazement or wonder or being a grave or a serious matter, or lastly, self-consciously solemn or important. And I would say that what we’re uncovering and seeing from the American people, from the whole DOGE, Department of Government Efficiency, and the work that they’re doing, is that it is portentous to watch what is happening. I’ll just say that. challenge is to use this portentous in a sentence today so that you can impress your friends and family and again that’s spelled p-o-r-t-e-n-t-o-u-s our quote of the day since i since i had virginia maca on in our number one and she’s a kansan i uh I still think of myself also as a Kansan. I’m both a Kansan and a Coloradan. I grew up on the plains of western Kansas and dearly love Kansas. And Amelia Earhart was born there. In 1897, she disappeared over the Pacific Ocean in 1937. But she said this, and my dad always said this as well. He said, you can do anything you decide to do. And my dad would always say, just put your mind to it. So again, that is Amelia Earhart, our quote of the day. Our bill of the day is House Bill 25-1073, protections against child rape. and is concerning criminal sentencing for persons who commit certain types of sexual assault on children. And the primary sponsors on that are Representative Brandy Bradley and Representative Regina English. Regina English, we talked about her in the first hour. Really pleased she’s got her name on that bill. Very disappointed that she’s trying to shut down speech on her public Facebook page of anything that might see something differently. And I really appreciate Priscilla Ron for coming on and talking about this. It takes real courage. Priscilla is a teacher and certainly appreciate her work. doing that. The USMC Memorial Foundation is a nonprofit I dearly love. The memorial is located in Golden, Colorado. And we hear so many of these Marine stories that are so important. And yesterday on America’s Veterans Stories, we broadcast part two of an interview with Bob Chica, who is a Marine. He was one of the 82 prisoners on the USS Pueblo that was taken prisoners by the North Koreans in the Vietnam War. It’s a riveting story. And he’s actually going to be out here in Colorado or planning to be for the Memorial Day event at the USMC Memorial Foundation. So a very worthy nonprofit to support. And you can get more information by going to USMCMemorialFoundation.org. That is USMCMemorialFoundation.org. And I really am blessed to work with a lot of really wonderful people. And I’m talking with Roger Mangan with the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team. And Roger, there are so many unknowns in life. We’ve talked about some of them. But what if somebody ends up in the hospital for a while?
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Well, one of the things that has recently become available is an enhanced hospital income plan. It’s really a supplemental insurance plan that’s so reasonable it’s incredulous. But here’s what it does. Let’s say you were involved in a bicycle accident and you went into the hospital. You were admitted. The first thing this plan does is pays you $3,500 for the admission, the admission to the hospital. Now that 3,500 doesn’t go to the hospital. It goes to you to be used for whatever you choose. Could be to pay your next auto insurance bill or to help pay your mortgage or pay your deductible that is associated with hospital confinement. And then for every day you’re in there, it will pay you $250 per day. And if you’re in an intensive care, it’ll pay you $500 a day for up to, I think it’s seven days. Now, This plan sounds so good, but really what does it cost? Everybody says, well, yeah, it’s great, but it costs so much. No, it doesn’t cost much at all. If you’re somewhere between 16 and 25 years old, it’s like $9 a month. Everybody should have this plan. My grandson, for example, loves to ski. He’s a snowboarder. He crashes into a tree or another person. He goes to the hospital. That’s going to be a very expensive audit proposition cost for that grandchild of mine. He has his plan, so I feel very comfortable that he has it. So if something happens, his parents, even though he’s 25, his parents are going to bail him out. You know that. Everybody knows that because they don’t have reserves sitting around to pay for hospital bills. So I think it’s important for you to know about this and to learn more about it or get a proposal. You can call our office. We can run it through the computer and send you all the information that will clearly state what is going to happen in the event there is an injury.
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Okay. So question, you said that $250 a day, and if you’re in intensive care, $500 a day. You said for seven days. What happens after seven days? Well, the base $250 per day goes 365 days.
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So it’s a whole year of $250 per day. The intensive care part of that is an additional $250 a day on top of the original $250 a day to $500 a day for seven days.
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Got it. Okay, thanks for that clarification. So if it was an extended hospital stay, again, God forbid, but boy, that would really help. And at $9 a day for a young person, that would be super. $9 a month. Oh, excuse me, yes, $9 a month. So it would be great for people to reach out to you and your team. Roger, what’s the best way to do that?
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Please give us a call at 303-795-8855.
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And you’ve got an amazing team that can sit down with individuals and help them navigate all these different questions. And Roger, before I let you go, and we normally pre-record these interviews, we’re going to be broadcasting this on President’s Day. And I know that you taught history, right? So what’s your thoughts about President’s Day?
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Well, we’re honoring the office, but more particularly two people who occupied that position, you know, Washington and Lincoln. And when you think about the, when we talk about founding fathers, we’re talking about folks who helped establish the framework within which we live politically. And at the same time, they were. They were pioneers. They had, they knew what they wanted to do, but they didn’t know really if it would work. You know, we’ve been given a Republic. The question is like Franklin says, let’s see if we can keep it. It’s a constant battle, but these two gentlemen set the standards that everybody followed for many, many years. And I think when you think about the integrity they brought to the office, being honest and having strong moral principles and refusing to let personal avarice or personal gain take over and not put the country first. They were shining examples of that. When you read the words of Lincoln and how he thought, what he went through to save the Union, amazing people. Thank God for our presidents. And not all presidents have been guided by integrity and honesty, unfortunately. So I wish we as Americans truly feel a deep appreciation for those that have led the way and set the standard and help us achieve what we have as a country.
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Well, and it is important to recognize both George Washington and Abraham Lincoln, and their birthdays are in February. And, of course, it was combined then for, I think, a federal holiday. But it’s important to actually reflect upon the contributions that each of these men made together. to the founding of America. And so what a great day to do that. So Roger Mangan, you do such great work. And truly, like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan team is there.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something’s a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. And wanted to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show because it is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from natural gas, oil, and coal that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams and empowers us to change our own personal climate to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer. And also I mentioned Bob Chica, who was our guest on America’s Veterans Stories on the show that broadcast yesterday. And he is a Marine. How I got to know him was he did an On Values presentation at the Center for American Values down in Pueblo. And you can access that presentation by going to their website. That is AmericanValuesCenter.org. And you can see all of the great work that they’re doing at the center. So be sure and check that out. I am so pleased. to have on the line with me, Rachel O’Brien. And she is the Deputy Public Policy Director for Open the Books. And they are doing amazing work. Rachel, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me back. I’m happy to be here. Well, a lot’s happened since the last time you were on, Rachel. Now we have Donald Trump in office. We’ve got Elon Musk with Doge. And I think they’re using a lot of the work that you all have put together at Open the Books, yes?
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I hope so. It looks like it, right? They’re sort of walking side by side as they look at certain spending. We’re going, hey, we just did that. Let’s put our post up with our data that we’ve already found, and let’s make sure it gets their attention. So, yeah, we’ve tried to get our work in front of them. We’ve been successful in a few cases. And actually, our CEO, you know, just wrote, John Hart, he just wrote an op-ed in the New Sort of alongside of what we’ve done since we’ve been an institution is building America’s checkbook. You know, Doge is going through all of… you know, the federal spending, the treasury. And we’ve said, look, let’s build America’s checkbook. Let’s sort of open the books, which is obviously our name and what we do. So, yeah, we’re excited to have our work out there on this very, very public federal stage. It’s exciting.
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Well, and in the piece that John wrote, it says progressives are panicking because their 100-year largely successful assault on American constitutional government is in danger of being reversed. So you’re really starting to see organized narratives out there to push back on what Elon Musk and Doge is doing. I did see a meme where one of the things they’re saying is we don’t want to have a nongovernmental government. entity being able to look at things in the treasury, meaning Doge. And this meme said that Elon Musk said, hey, remember, I started PayPal. So of course, the implication is we have information on people. I thought that was quite interesting.
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Oh, it’s just, I mean, it’s crazy to say that only the government should know what’s being spent. It’s our money. It’s our taxpayer money. So people, I think, obviously are taking aim at Elon Musk. They don’t like him. They don’t like that he’s aligned himself with President Trump. And that’s all good and well. You don’t have to like Elon Musk. But what he’s saying is absolutely right in many cases. You know, this is our money. They only had – he and his team only had read access to the Treasury payment system. They weren’t able to stop funds. They weren’t able to reroute funds. They just were able to see what has been paid. And so it is absolutely – is absolutely American to allow the American people, not just the government, to follow the money, to see how our money is being spent. So it’s so silly to say that because he’s not a government official or he’s not a government employee, he can’t see it. It’s nonsense. We should all be able to see it. We should all be able to follow the money. These funds belong to we, the people, not any branch of government. And certainly not an unelected administrative state, right? These are bureaucrats who get to determine how the funds are spent. get to determine what we’re able to see. We’re able to see a lot of government spending on usaspending.gov, but that sort of lags behind. We only get a part way to real transparency. It collects information on government contracts and grants and sort of lets us see in broad strokes how funds have been spent in the past, but the data is partial and it lags. It’s often 30 days or even older. And so being able to view the Treasury and see how the Treasury is spending money is absolutely American. It’s absolutely constitutional. And the people who are fighting it, I really hope and expect that they will lose.
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Well, and so I think that’s why it’s almost like they’re pulling out all stops. You’re seeing some of these judges that are trying to prevent this transparency. And I really think that everyday Americans, that they’re busy. They’ve been focused on their lives, although they realize that something isn’t right. I think that this is a watershed moment on this. And In the piece, John says transparency cuts through government like water cuts through stone. When it finds cracks, it can wash away mighty walls of opposition and create sudden and dramatic change. And I think that that is what the deep state is really concerned about. Rachel O’Brien.
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Well, of course, right. They’re concerned with their jobs and they’re concerned with losing the status quo. That’s understandable. But the government’s job isn’t to employ people. The government’s job is to serve the people who are funding it. Right. And so change is hard. But again, if the people who are fighting it are these bureaucrats, are these people who just want to protect their jobs and want to protect the status quo, that itself is an indication that we’re doing the right thing. Right. The right thing is to do right by the taxpayers. It’s to do right by the country, right? It’s not to do right by people who are employed by these agencies. And now, of course, you want to treat people with dignity and respect as an employer. You know, the U.S. government is an employer, and they’ve got to treat people properly. But that doesn’t mean keeping people employed and spending money unnecessarily to make them happy. Like you said, the deep state, the bureaucrats, these people who are in charge of they need to be, their spending and their activities need to be accounted for. And so you’re seeing these cuts, you know, in, in the federal agencies, you’re seeing, you know, at every step it’s being blocked by, by judges, but the government is very bloated. You know, we, we report every year on improper payments through federal agencies and it’s, It’s tens of billions of dollars a year because money is not being spent properly. So why should we protect a system and the people working for that system if they’re not spending our money properly? They’re wasting it. They’re not safeguarding it. So it is time to make some of those cuts.
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So, Rachel, and I agree with this, and this has to be done. If America is going to survive, if we’re going to reclaim our American idea, I really think we are in the third founding of our country. We have got to do this because we are spending ourselves into oblivion. So first and foremost, find out where that money’s been going and stop that. But I do, on a micro level, I do have concern about… All of these people losing their jobs, being put into searching for jobs in this time. So I think you alluded to this. This is going to be a bit messy and tough, I think, for a little bit. But I am concerned on a micro level for people losing their jobs. What’s your comments on that?
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Yeah, absolutely. I mean, again, people need to be treated with respect, you know, just as we expect any employer to treat their employees, you know, well. Absolutely, right. So the offer of these sort of delayed retirement benefits that President Trump gave very quickly after taking office is you get to, if you’re working for a federal agency and you’re working from home, which most of them are, and you don’t want to return to the office under President Trump’s mandate of you must return to the office, If you don’t want that, you know what? You can keep your job until September on the books. You can get paid on the books until September, but you don’t actually have to do your job. We’re essentially going to pay you for the next eight months. go on with your life, go look for another job in a sector that could use your expertise, and we’re going to continue paying for that. Now, that’s a volunteer thing. People have to opt in for that. I don’t know what the latest status of that is. I think that was maybe put on pause or rolled back, but that’s a very generous offer. How many of us in the private sector are given eight months of work, paid work, but we can go pursue other opportunities? So yeah, shutting down agencies overnight. I’ve talked about this when we’re talking about USAID. That is an agency that certainly needs scrutiny. It certainly needs a fine-tooth comb look through its budget and spending, which we’ve been doing at Open the Books, and we can talk about that if there’s time. Closing agencies overnight, locking the doors that people can’t show up at their offices, that’s not the best way to do business, right? Again, you are an employer, and you do owe some notice to your employees, right? So, again, all of these all of these actions that the Trump administration has taken, they’re being challenged. And I think, you know, in the end, if the process isn’t good, like, again, sort of last minute closing of USAID. If the process isn’t good, we can rework it. But if you’re talking about keeping people employed just to keep them employed, that’s not the right way to run a business. Certainly no small business or no large business, nothing in the private sector operates that way. But treating people with respect is important. But, again, the bottom line is it’s America’s money. It’s taxpayers’ money, and we’ve got to safeguard it.
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So with this, Rachel O’Brien, our deficit is typically now, what, about $2 million? And so adding to that on a consistent basis, this is going to take us over the cliff if we don’t get this under control. Do you think that Elon Musk and Doge can cut a trillion dollars just with what they’re doing right now on that deficit?
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Yeah, right. So the deficit, I think, is close to $2 trillion. Is that right? Maybe between $1 and $2 trillion. I think he has walked back, you know, Elon Musk has walked back his promise to be able to make that initial huge figure that he said. I think if you look at improper payments alone, improper payments, average payments, The last several years, we’re averaging about $250 billion a year. I think if you start there, that’s a good place to start. We’re talking about payments that should never have been made in the first place. This should be a nonpartisan process. issue, people should get on board, no matter what side of the aisle they’re on, and no matter what they think of Elon Musk, you know, so I don’t know if he’s going to be able to hit that figure. But there are so many, so much low hanging fruit to grab. During the Biden administration, he totaled $925 billion made in improper payments. And these are simply payments made to the wrong person or in the wrong amount for the wrong reason. We’re not talking about cutting funding. We’re not talking about cutting, you know, social safety net programs. We’re talking about making sure the money goes to where it’s supposed to, where, where it was, you know, aimed to go. And so when you see, of course, Medicaid and Medicare being the biggest problem, they accounted for $87 billion in improper payments last year. You know, it’s, it’s, It’s a Herculean task to try to reform Medicaid and Medicare, but I think those are certainly programs that need it the most. So he can start there for sure. You know, USAID, again, cutting the federal foreign funding, not just by USAID, but by, you know, the State Department, of course, military spending, DOD, you know, huge, huge budgets where we can cut spending. I think there’s lots of low-hanging fruit, again, to cut before you have to start, say, eliminating departments. Trump has said he wants to eliminate the Department of Education. Of course, it doesn’t look like he has the support to do that in Congress. You don’t need to eliminate agencies to cut wasteful and fraudulent funding. Talking about USAID, we’ve looked into them quite a bit. They haven’t reported any improper payments in the last two fiscal years. And that’s not because they’re spending money perfectly. As we’ve seen, money is going to things it shouldn’t. So we looked back the last couple of years. Since 2020, USAID, their programs were found 30 times to be susceptible to significant improper payments. Yes, they reported none in 2023 and 2024. I find that suspect. You know, if you look through all of your programs, you’re susceptible to significant improper payments. Oh, but by the way, we had none. Wow. There’s a lot to look through. There’s a lot to take, again, that can make up. I don’t know if we can get to that trillion dollar or two trillion dollar, whatever the figure is. There’s a lot to start with before we worry about whether we’re going to hit that number.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And here in 2025, make sure that you support the U.S. MC Memorial Foundation. The actual… Official Marine Memorial is right here in Colorado. And so we need to take care of it. We need to refurbish it, remodel it. It was dedicated in 1977. It’s a very special place. You can help them by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Pleased to talk with Rachel O’Brien, Deputy Policy Director at Open the Books. Be sure and check out their website and Open the Books. And Rachel O’Brien, this came in on the text line from one of our listeners. She said, I’m not alone. I’m unhappy that people get locked out of their offices, but that you do that for a reason when you’re trying to find fraud. And I think she has an excellent point there, Rachel.
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Well, if you’re talking about, you know, right there’s the concern that these bureaucrats who work for these agencies are going to destroy records. Sure. There, there could be, there could be a fear there. Look, I think there’s a way to go about handling it. Again, I, I, I think there’s a way to do it with respect for employees. You do have people who are just looking to, of course, protect their own neck and protect their own agency. But there are a lot of regular people who are employed by these agencies, regular Americans who are not sort of the deep state or necessarily an enemy. I think it is important, again, to keep those people in mind. But, right, there is this concern that records are going to be destroyed. You know, already looking through what we’ve seen in, say, USAID, you’ve sort of got to follow a long thread in many cases to get to the root of the spending. The records aren’t always incredibly clear about where this money is going or what exactly it’s being used for, especially when it’s going to foreign entities and foreign countries. You know, so yeah, it is difficult to get to the root of that spending. And it is important, of course, to safeguard those records. But it’s also important to maybe not lay people off overnight. Give them a bit of notice. You can certainly, you know, I guess remove people from offices if you feel like there’s that fear that they’re going to destroy records. But again, there’s a way to do it with a little bit of You’re not going to get as much pushback if you’re locking people out overnight with no notice. Of course, people who hate Donald Trump are going to push back on whatever he does. I think going forward, you know, we may see a little bit of a different approach from his administration, just considering the amount of legal pushback he’s gotten from judges. We’ll see. We’ll see. You know, Donald Trump doesn’t seem to take a lot of he doesn’t take scrutiny very well. And he sort of, you know, walks to the beat of his own drummer. And that’s fine. We’ll see what happens with those legal challenges. A lot of them just got those initial temporary restraining orders put in place just to give the judges enough time to even review the case, right? So a lot of times you see, you know, President Trump’s detractors claiming a win when really it’s just a pause to give the court time to even consider that case. And so we’ll see what these cuts actually end up being.
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Well, and there’s a question on whether or not these judges actually have jurisdiction over this as well. So it’s a bit of a chess game right now. This is from one of our listeners. She said that we absolutely need to eliminate some of these agencies and departments because if we don’t, when the radical activists get back in office, well, hopefully they won’t, but if they do, that they’ll put them right back where they are today. And… I tend to agree with her on that because some of these they’ve gotten way out of control. They’ve been really a fourth branch of government. And so we need to do what we can, Rachel, I think, to reclaim our constitutional republic. What’s your thoughts on that?
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Well, I would just say that, you know, that it’s just such a difficult task to do. Right. So President Reagan tried to do this. right after the department was just created, and President Trump wanted to do this in his first term. Of course, you can transfer programs to other agencies, give a lot more power and responsibilities to the states. That is one of those things that when you talk to parents, and I’m a parent with a young child who’s going to be entering public schools shortly, parents want that power. They want that ability to have more local decisions, right? You want it from the state. You want it from your city, from your school district. But if we’re talking about eliminating the department, it doesn’t look like the president is going to have the congressional support he’s going to need, right? And so I just don’t think He should be, of course, putting all his eggs in that one basket. Yeah, every administration is going to make their own spending decisions. But I think if you reorganize these agencies and you move entire programs and entire departments from one agency to another, it is harder for a future administration to undo that. It’s not impossible. But it is more difficult, especially if you show that it’s working well, right? So if you’re removing all of these programs and essentially gutting the Department of Administration, just for example, you can talk about this with any agency, if you’re essentially gutting it and removing much of what it does and giving it to another agency and it works, and the states are okay with it and the system continues to function properly, I think there’s less incentive for a future administration to undo that.
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Okay. Let’s talk about this last piece, and a lot’s coming in. Let’s see. This is from Eric. He says… Wow, Kim and Rachel, Elon Musk and Doge just got started. They have three more years. Plus, just think what they could do before the end of President Trump’s term. They might even balance the budget. So, wow, who knows? That’s Eric. And another listener said… It isn’t Trump walking to his beat of the drum. They know exactly what they’re doing, what they need to do, and it’s totally legal. So that’s from another listener. But Open the Books, that’s OpenTheBooks.com. You guys just posted a piece on the 12th of February. Final tally for Biden-era improper payments, $925 billion. This was…
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actually what these different agencies said that there was improper payments this wasn’t even anything the doge did right yeah these are self-reported so every year agencies self-report um it’s on the website it’s called payment accuracy.gov and they have to self-report which in and of itself you know can create some problems right um and so that’s exactly right Um, this is what they’ve, they’ve admitted to misspending. Um, if you download the data and look through it, it’s really interesting to show, um, what’s causing it, what they’re, what the money is going to, how they’re spending it improperly. Um, so $925 billion during the Biden administration, um, You know, it’s an incredible amount of money. We had predicted, so he was averaging, the Biden administration was averaging $250 billion a year in his first three years. So we predicted he would hit a trillion dollars. Somehow his administration managed to get his final year’s figure down to $161 billion. And so we’re at that $925 billion figure. Again, Medicaid and Medicare, these huge spenders, You know, because these agencies, and not every agency is reporting, again, like USAID was able to claim that they have no improper payments for the last two fiscal years. You know, I don’t believe that for a second. But these are not audits. These are sort of self-audits. The GAO believes that there are undetected, sophisticated fraud schemes that are not included in these estimates. And so the $925 billion is a low estimate. estimate of what’s actually, you know, being spent there. And not every agency even reports. If you look through the data, there are plenty of agencies that are not required to make these improper payment sort of statements. And even those that do, you can sort of expect that they may be leaving some things out of that.
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Boy, I tell you, Rachel O’Brien, the work that you’re doing at Open the Books is so important. And I thank you for that. And I know that you’re continuing the work of your founder, of Adam Angieschi, who passed on very suddenly. And I think when we all saw those headlines, we just, it took our breath away because what amazing work he started. But thank you to all of you that you’re continuing with this. And people can find you at OpenTheBooks.com, Rachel.
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Yes, yes. Thanks for having me back again. And, you know, we have a new great CEO, John Hart. He knew Adam and he was working on this with Adam, you know, a long time ago, right at the beginning. And so we’re in good hands and we’re keeping up the good work that Adam started.
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Well, I thank you for that. Again, Rachel O’Brien, we’ll get you on again very soon and keep up the great work.
SPEAKER 03 :
Thanks so much, Kim.
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Welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something’s a good idea. We should not have to force people to do it. Ron had called in and said one of these things about us being concerned about these people losing their jobs, caring about them, is many of them were not caring about what they were doing to the American people. That is a really excellent point. And so thank you on that, Ron. That’s the way I understood the call. And then… Holly said this. She said, I think that we’ll see a consolidation of agencies rather than elimination. So there will be less pushback and the Department of Ed will be returned back to the states where it belongs. I agree. I think that’s a great idea. So a couple of things. Center for American Values located in Pueblo, Colorado. It is on the Riverwalk there. They have their great online or on values presentations and then honoring our Medal of Honor recipients with their beautiful portraits of and then these educational programs with these focusing on foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. The center is nonpolitical. It’s nonpartisan. And be sure and check out all their great work by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. It is President’s Day. Now, I’m going to date myself. When I was a kid, we actually had George Washington’s birthday, Lincoln’s birthday, got consolidated into President’s Day. And then I think some people don’t realize which presidents they’re really talking about. And it’s Washington and Lincoln. And so I wanted to go through four presidents here with some of their quotes. The first is George Washington. He’s known as the father of our country. He was born on February 22nd in 1732. He died December 14th, 1798. He was a founding father, our first president, commander of the Continental Army, and pretty amazing person. And he said this, he said, government is not reason. It is not eloquent. It is force like fire. It is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. Experience has taught us that it is much easier to prevent an enemy from posting themselves than it is to dislodge them after they have got possession. And when the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent, we may be led like sheep to the slaughter. Two things right there with what he said. We have seen those that are enemies of the American people that have been lodged into our government. And as he said, they’re dislodging them is difficult. But we are in that battle right now. He was the father of the first founding of our country. And then again, we talked with Priscilla Ron in the first hour regarding freedom of speech. And when we have elected representatives that are shutting down freedom of speech, that is of great concern. Then a second founding of our country was with President Abraham Lincoln. and he was born on february 12 1809 he died on april 15 1965 he was our 16th president and at the end of the gettysburg address he said this the world will little note nor long remember what we say here but it can never forget what they did here it is for us the living rather to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobody nobly advanced Amen. Amen. Amen. Then my friend Christy Whaley always says, well, there’s another great president that was born in February, and that was Ronald Reagan. And he was born February 6, 1911. He died June 5, 2004. And he said this. He said, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem. Government does not solve problems. It subsidizes them. Government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases. If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it. The problem is not that the people are taxed too little. The problem is the government spends too much. And then lastly, my friends, I talk about this all the time that I think that we are. In fact, I know that we are in the third founding of our country. And, of course, with the Revolutionary War, George Washington, that was a physical war. And also with the Civil War, that, what, 75 years later, we go to war to try to determine, well, we ask this question regarding property. Can one man be the property of another? And the answer that we said is no. And it’s so important when we have our young people talk about slavery and the blight that that is upon our reputation as a country. I agreed. However, slavery was prevalent throughout the world. at that time and so the idea that this little country would go to war to uh to determine that question and say no that one man cannot be property of another is so important but when we talk about slavery when most of the fruits of your labor are being taken by someone else and that your lives are controlled by someone else, then that certainly is a form of slavery. And so with this administrative state that began Really after the Civil War, but really, really got going with Woodrow Wilson about 100 years ago. And it has gotten to this leviathan that it is. And we are now, I really do believe that we are in the third founding of our country. And so Donald Trump, I think, will go down in history as another of our great presidents, along with George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Ronald Reagan. And now with what is happening here in 2025 America. And this is a quote from Donald Trump. He said, as long as we have faith in each other and trust in God, then there is no goal at all beyond our reach. There is no dream too large, no task too great. So on this day, on President’s Day, I think it’s important that we stop and we reflect. And if appropriate, if we could have a conversation with our children and our grandchildren, our neighbors, and realize that this great gift of America that has been given to us. by these presidents that were not in it for themselves, but that were in it for the American idea and to pass on something good, to pass on liberty to the next generations. I think it’s important that we reflect upon that during this day. And so, again, it is President’s Day. I remember as a kid, I would lovingly trace George Washington’s profile and Abraham Lincoln’s profiles as we would talk about those in school and again, understand what these men were focused on. And of course, those that try to disparage them, they’re really trying to disparage the American idea. And we’ve let that occur for much too long in our education systems. We need to reclaim that. Again, these great ideas that all men are created equal with these rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. So our three presidents, great presidents that were born in February, George Washington, the father of our country, born February 22nd, 1732, and Abraham Lincoln, 1732. born February 12, 1809. Ronald Reagan, born February 6, 1911. And Donald Trump was born on Flag Day, which I think is very appropriate, June 14, 1946. And so we are clearly, clearly… Oh! My gosh, Eric just texted me. Did I say that Lincoln died in, I might have said 1965. Sorry. Thank you, Eric, for keeping, he died in 1865, April 15, 1865. So I want to make sure that we get things correct on all that. But today, reflect upon this great country, those that have stepped forward to serve our country as president and then everyday people as we work to reclaim this great country of ours, the United States of America. Our quote for the end of the show, I went to Amelia Earhart, and she said this. She said, if enough of us keep trying, we’ll get someplace. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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