In this captivating episode, Kim discusses school choice with insightful guests, highlighting its impact on education and individual freedom. A special segment pays homage to George Washington, reflecting on his timeless influence and leadership. With a focus on historical significance and modern policy, this podcast invites you to engage with thought-provoking questions about America’s foundation and future.
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The socialization of transportation, education, energy, housing, and water. What it means is that government controls it through rules and regulations.
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Under this guise of bipartisanship and nonpartisanship, it’s actually tapping down the truth.
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Today’s current opinions and ideas.
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On an equal field in the battle of ideas, mistruths and misconceptions is getting us into a world of hurt.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
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Indeed. Let’s have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured. You’re valued. You have purpose. Today’s drive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That’s producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Wednesday. Happy Wednesday, Kim. And if it’s Wednesday, that means it’s Wings Day at Hooters restaurants. You buy 20 wings, you get an additional 10 for free. That’s for to go or to dine in. And their locations are Loveland, Westminster and in Aurora. And so be sure and check that out. And great to have in studio with me, my friend. And that is Brad Beck. It’s good to have you here.
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It’s always great to be here. Thanks for having me. And isn’t it great to be in Colorado this time in the world’s history and be alive?
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We are in historical times. We are. We’re celebrating our 250th birthday this year, and I think we’re in the third founding of our country.
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I think you’re right. There’s all indications that things are moving that haven’t moved in a long time. Yeah. And I think people are seeing it happen in real time.
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And so we’re engaged in this epic battle of ideas. And it’s epic, but yet it’s the same battle that we’ve had throughout mankind.
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Well, you know, they say history rhymes. So, you know, there are things that happen. There’s good and evil. There’s innovation. There are, you know, human nature doesn’t change. No, it doesn’t. So why would we expect anything different? I know.
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But we need to be focusing on these lofty ideas. And that really seems to be the questions is, is it liberty or is it tyranny? Is it creation? Is it destruction? Is it life? Is it death? These are these big questions. And I talked a little bit about it yesterday, Brad, because I was talking with a friend of mine. And you hear this all the time. We are so divided. Right. This is true. But we’re divided because there are those that I think really want to destroy the American idea and those of us that want to preserve and conserve it. And there’s no way to unite that. And so there’s that way over on the far left. They’re loud. They’re really loud. And they have the mainstream media. And that’s why what we’re doing here is so important, Brad.
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Well, I’m hopeful, Kim, in the sense that this last week, you know, is National School Choice Week. And I had the privilege of teaching some young people about the principles of the American founding. And they were all just amazing. incredibly curious because i don’t think they get the kind of presentation that i provided through the colorado parents advocacy network cpan laurie gammelstein and and folks and got to go to the capitol and hear people even like our governor who is pro school choice one of the few things i agree with him on and i appreciate him being there and i think there are more things that we can find in common with more people We just have to seek it and we have to do it in a way that’s not accusatory because we’re not going to agree 100% on everything. But if we can find that common ground and work together to move the ball forward, then we all benefit. And, you know, at the end of… The day, which I always say night, but at the end of the day, we have a lot in common. And there’s a lot of things that we can say, you know, we’re all Americans. Let’s start there. We’re all humanly equal. We’re all equal citizens. So, I mean, there’s three things right there you can start talking about and build from there. And I think that’s what we have to do more of and invite.
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I think that’s true. I ended up being invited to do a national podcast with Dom Giordano. Let’s see, the podcast is like old school, new school. I can’t remember the other. And he was very curious that Polis was the only Democrat governor regarding this issue. school choice and this new thing in the big beautiful bill that they’re still writing things on it but where somebody could I think take a tax credit and contribute to a scholarship program entity for kids, which is great. I did mention though, I’m concerned with what I see is this force in Colorado with curriculum. And so I love the fact that there’s school choice, but I want there to be the choice on curriculum as well.
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Well, there’s always the possibility when they pass legislation that what’s in the bill is not what ends up happening. You know that. I mean, there’s always negotiations as they’re building these things out. But I think if you just look at the amount of bills in the statehouse already, I’m just blown away that we need that much legislation to make our lives better. Yeah, exactly. It doesn’t make our lives better. It makes it more constricted. And somebody is going to get richer from it. Always. And it’s not being cynical. It’s just reading history. You know, one industry, one person, one group. And I think we have to be mindful of that. We don’t you know, it’s like buying a house or building infrastructure. If you don’t have money to maintain it over time, it decays. And so I think that’s one of the things that we don’t do a good job of the follow through.
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As of right now, checking on Bill Track 50, which is the software that we use for CUT, Colorado Union of Taxpayers, 182 bills and resolutions have been introduced already. We don’t really need another new law. We need to be repealing these things. And so that’s why, looking back at history, we’re focusing on George Washington. My friend Lisa had said, Kim, I think we want to be uplifting. And Washington went through so many different experiences. He was our first president. He was the commander of the Continental Army. And he’s known as the father of our country. So I went to him for our quote of today. And he was born in 1732, died in 1799. And he said this, I am sure that never was a people who had more reason to acknowledge a divine interposition in their affairs than those of the United States. And I should be pained to believe that they have forgotten that agency which was so often manifested during our revolution or that they failed to consider the omnipotence of that God who is alone able to protect them. And I also just, he writes, speaks, writes beautifully.
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He was a reserved man. And, you know, he was about six feet, three and a half inches tall. So he was big for the time. Big hands, big stocky body. And, you know, if you read what he did when he was a British officer in the French and Indian War, I mean, you just marvel at, one, he survived because he was getting shot at constantly. And it wasn’t that far in Pennsylvania where President Trump also got shot. And, you know, Trump has brought that up a couple of times because there was a book written Butler about that situation. And it opens with that with George Washington there. But if you’ve ever had the opportunity to go to Mount Vernon and see that beautiful building there and the bluff that’s on overlooking the Potomac and just the grandeur of that house for that time and look at it in its context, it’s just an amazing place.
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It is. I’ve been there once. I’d like to go again because I think I have a new appreciation for George Washington. And so we’re going to talk a little bit more about him in the next segment. Our word of the day is disabuse. And thank you, Dave, for my one of my fellow board members for suggesting this. And it says to free from a falsehood or misconception. or to set free from mistakes, to undeceive, to disengage from fallacy or deception, to set right. And it’s spelled D-I-S-A-B-U-S-E. I don’t think I’ve ever used that word before.
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Not until today, because there’s been a lot of things that have happened that disabuse our illusions of reality. And a lot of it is media-based information.
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It is.
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They look at things that are from a perspective that are not always true or straight. So they disabuse other people’s vision of what’s going on.
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That’s well done. the challenge is to use disabuse in the sentence today and then jumping over here to our bill of the day house bill 26 1005 worker protection collective bargaining these prime sponsors on this are representative javier mabre representative jennifer bacon senator jesse danielson and senator iman joda and we oppose this at cut And, Brad, I’d encourage you, I haven’t done it yet this week either, and that is to go in and weigh in at CutEngaged. You go to coloradotaxpayer.org, and at the very top, there’s a drop-down for CutEngaged. And we selected five bills this week. We had three last week that you can go in, and within just a few minutes, you can make your voice heard. It’ll automatically send an email. oppose or support a particular bill which is cuts position and you can add in your own commentary if you want otherwise we’ll have cuts commentary it’ll go to the prime sponsors as well as you can select to have it go to your senator and your representative and it’s really slick And so I’m over here and it says, cut opposes House Bill 26-1005, worker protection collective bargaining. And this is what we said. It says, this bill eliminates the requirement under the Labor Peace Act to conduct a second election to negotiate a union security agreement clause in the collective bargaining process. This bill increases the power of unions and lessens the power of those workers who do not want to join the union or pay dues even though they are non-members. It also makes it more difficult for Colorado to become a right-to-work state, like almost all our surrounding states, which puts us at a competitive disadvantage for attracting employers. So I will be weighing in. I’ll do that during the break here.
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Okay. Well, I’m glad you brought that up because I’m looking at it now, and I didn’t realize that. You know, like most people, I scan my emails because I get too many, and I didn’t know that. So I’m going to use that little part of the app.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Yes, we are talking about George Washington. And I wanted to let you know, following the first presidential election in 1789, George Washington was unanimously elected president of the United States. With 69 electoral votes, Washington won the support from each participating state. No other president since has come into office with a universal mandate to lead. Between December 15th, 1788, and January 10th, 1789, the presidential electors were chosen in each of the states. Washington described these electors as having characters of the gentlemen. On February 4th, 1789, the Electoral College convened. 10 states cast electoral votes. Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, and Virginia. New York, however, failed to field a slate of electors. North Carolina and Rhode Island weren’t able to participate because they had not yet ratified the Constitution. After a quorum was finally established, the Congress counted and certified the electoral vote count on April 6th. So all those years ago today, George Washington was… uh… elect uh… elected electoral college and i used to go to new york on a regular basis i think brad you know i used to be in the ladies clothing business and uh… one time i was staying down uh… near wall street and your battery park and i was walking along and i’d seen this building on a regular basis and i thought I wonder what that is. And I finally went in, it was Federal Hall. And that is where George Washington was inaugurated. And of course they had all these books for sale. So I ended up buying all these books that I then had to get back in my luggage. But I’m like, wow, I had no idea. And I’d walked past that many, many times.
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Well, one of the things that I’m always fascinated with is, is there any history left in places like New York that leave buildings that are historic? There’s a place called Francis Hall, or Tavern. And it’s the tavern where a lot of the revolutionary founders would hang out. And the Long Room is still there. There’s a museum there. They still have a restaurant. But if you go to the Long Room, take the tour, there’s a reenactment of George Washington with all his… generals and so forth, where he gave up his command. He was going to Annapolis, which was the capital at the time, and gave his farewell. And it was a rich, very emotional time for all the people generals that were there with Washington. And Henry Knox was closest to him. And Washington called all these folks that were in the room to come and shake his hand. They all embraced. They all were sobbing. And they were all thankful for Washington and his leadership for those many years that he was our first leader. representative as president but he was also the leader of the nation even when he wasn’t the president he had that kind of persona and so federal or francis tavern is still there and it’s a great place encourage if you’re going to go to new york and you’re going to spend any time that would be the one place to go
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And I’ve been there as well. And with that, Mike Rolick is on the line. And we know him. He is an active citizen watching things. Mike Rolick, welcome. And when you and I were talking the other day, you had something regarding Washington that kind of took my breath away. Hopefully you remember what you said to me.
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Yeah, it was. Good morning, everybody. Hi. It was an interesting thing. None of us. none of us want to be out here doing this on our time off really at all but it’s kind of a thing that we do and i was talking to kim about just being tired about watching this or observing that or participating in the other and um you know we just talked about trying to keep each other motivated and i remember there was a glenn beck show a long long time ago where he had presented the quote when george washington was home and it was after the articles of confederation was gone and they were working on the constitution they needed the first president for the constitution they came to george washington’s house and said sir you have to be our president and he said haven’t i done enough for my country and unfortunately for the poor man no he has one more big job to do and so i’m always inspired by folks who don’t want to do this Don’t want to take your time and miss a sports game or concert or whatever and do this hard work. And no way am I conflating ourselves with someone like George Washington as far as the level of effort and peril. But it’s just I look to that inspiration.
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I do as well. And one other thing, Mike, when I see people that are stepping forward to run for office, typically they kind of have me when they first say, I really didn’t want to do this. And I’m like, okay, I know that there’s a real calling. And you are doing such great work. Again, this is all volunteer. This is all extra time. What is the first thing you want people to be aware of this week?
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Well, I was looking to kind of round back up into Pano. This is obviously a statewide show, so anyone out in the Craig Moffitt area and also Routt County, Pano has come to you guys. So there’s a Routt County Wildlife Mitigation Council, and they were doing a presentation on how Xcel has put some cameras out there and Well, you got Oak Creek, Phillipsburg area, and then also it looks like five in the Craig area and by Highway 40 and down towards Meeker. There’s one down there as well. So think of it this way. You know, you’ve got a lot of valleys up there, agricultural areas, and now you’ve got cameras placed above you that supposedly only look for smoke. The concern is where does this go now? Also, when we think about this, there is a new bill, Senate Bill 2670. It’s, I think, the first bite of the apple of trying to figure out what to do with mass surveillance. And I applaud all the sponsors for getting into this. Three Democrat, one Republican. And I hope this moves forward, but I also hope that there’s some changes to it. One good thing out of it, though, when it comes to automatic license plate readers and other normal thoughts of mass surveillance type stuff, the data shall now be destroyed within four days as opposed to how Flock wanted to keep it 30 days or so. And that fits well within the Carpenter versus U.S. And I know I’ve been banging the drum on Carpenter versus U.S. as far as what constitutes a search or not. So, you know, kudos for this bill to start limiting the data for four days. But the interesting part, too, is obviously if there’s going to be some kind of warrant or what have you that it would have to get preserved more. There’s also information there about how to access it. They’re talking about how you have to show a supervisor and get written approval from the supervisor, and then you can get granted access to the full description of historical information, redactions for license plate numbers, redactions for facial images, and other PII, personally identifiable information. But what’s very interesting is They cut out the CORA part, and we looked at Skagit County, and we saw that these records should count under CORA, but this bill would specifically cut out CORA. And I did send an email to Colorado Freedom of Information Coalition, and they’re still kind of debating in their counsel. where they would sit. And I would, one, I would ask everybody to join the Freedom Information Council. They’re a great group. Just get their email alerts at the very minimum. And two, they are the preeminent source in this kind of thing. I’m waiting to see what they think. But it does give me kind of agita that would be specifically exempted because it’s very difficult just like with panel we talked about it’s very difficult to know if you’re you know being victimized in a certain way because there will be that opaqueness um every 90 days there’ll be a um let’s see ensure compliance and they’ll have to create a written standardized policy or practice and then uh We talk about having a report every 90 days, but again, I don’t think that report that comes out about who’s using the data and what data was used, I don’t think that would be part of CORA either, and I think that needs to get cleared up. And then, you know, think about if something happened today and you want to get information about it. So on page 9, line 10 says the creation and maintenance of an annual report that both compiles and summarizes the records described, which would be those 90-day record reports. The report… must be made available by June 30th of each year to the public. So thinking about it today, if you or I were a victim of some kind of warrantless search or whatever, We don’t really have a crack at looking at that till next June 30th. And I think that’s also a failing of the bill. I hope that would clean up to the point where if we’re doing these 90-day reports, that at least those are affordable and those are made available to the public. Complied and summarized is a different word than actually all of the information. You could summarize it and sanitize it at the same time. So those kind of things there. But like I said, great first try at it. No information sharing between agencies. You can’t. uh as the contractor have the information on your servers and destruction in four days so there’s some good there’s some bad and that is how that would be senate bill 70 for this year is that right exactly exactly 2670 so i i looked at the the calendar i don’t see any committee dates for it yet okay okay sounds good we we’ve got time for what would be the next thing you want people to be aware of A lot of stuff going on. I think we can get to Lakewood P3 next week if that’s okay. But last night I was in Nevada City Council. This is very important. Everybody, go to your city council, see what’s going on. I’m very happy with Nevada from last night because there was discussion of limiting access. The public comment periods for both general business and the public testimony, which would be for a quasi judicial. You’re familiar with that, obviously. But quasi judicial would be something as a land use case or rezoning where the public actually provides testimony. What they were trying to do. Staff, I should say, they had a suggestion that public testimony during a quasi-judicial hearing, a land rezoning, annexation, what have you, would be limited to one hour. That there was talk about it, and apparently it was in the old bylaws or rules. all to limit the whole meeting to 1130. And then what they wanted to do was limit the first public comment period for open business and then have people have to wait till the end. And then I, you know, I’m not a resident of Nevada, but I’m right on the border. They were trying to then say non Nevada residents. should be withheld till the end of either the testimony period or the public comment period at the end um the city council tabled the whole thing they were in favor of keeping meetings till 3 a.m if they need to they they thought about the the fact that non-citizens could be in enclaves because a lot of times little parcels are not annexed or In my case, I’m right on the border, and what they do as far as traffic and what have you, schools, affects me as a taxpayer for CDOT or Jeffco School Board or Nevada Fire Protection because now we’re part of that. So it’s kind of an interesting thing, and they came out for the First Amendment. They all said we’re going to be here until 3 a.m. if we need to. We want to hear everybody. So hats off to Nevada. but the fact is in in what they call a limited public forum and and this is a doctrine you know the supreme court has looked at this numerous times that a city or municipality can limit and i think we saw that down in douglas county with the zebulon so i encourage everybody to go see what’s going on in in your particular municipality or county’s rules of procedure or bylaws and get that comment period expanded
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So, yes, Mike, as you were just talking about this, I I’d been at a meeting and it was a Republican commissioners that I was shocked that they limited testimony to just less than an hour. And they had the first 15 people that had signed up that happened to all be in favor of the project. They spoke, and then the voices were shut down. And some people came up to me afterwards, and they said, I was number 49, and the other person was number 50, and they never had the opportunity to speak. And I think you stay there until 3 a.m. You may need to adjourn the meeting and start over if need be. But the fact that people take time off from work or their families to show up to make public comment, I think every voice should be heard, Mike Rollick.
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Absolutely. You know, I hearken back to the Amazon. We were there until 2.30 a.m., Now looking at how Amazon is laying a bunch of people off from different sectors, I think we’re very happy that we have smaller businesses going in where the Amazon was going to be. And that’s no slight against Amazon as far as their business model. It’s just a reality of automation. But we stayed. Everyone stayed. Part of the thing, too, I thought was really interesting is Randy Moorman picked up on this. There was talk from the staff about government efficiency, and we actually got the words reordered to make sure the public interest, the public comment was in front of administrative efficiency because it was phrased yesterday that the Roberts Rules of Order is unwieldy and the process is clunky and we need efficiency, efficiency, efficiency. But these are very permanent decisions. Think about, again, I’m not trying to harp on Amazon, but a very large logistics distribution center comprising 25 to 35 acres. That’s a very niche business model. And if that model goes belly up, now you’re stuck with a 30-acre behemoth just sitting there possibly empty for years. These are very permanent decisions. Closing of a school. We’ve seen Allendale get closed down. Once it’s gone, it’s gone. Where are you going to build that school again if the population shifts upwards again? So these are very permanent decisions. And so for any inkling of needing to have efficiency as opposed to thoroughness and completeness should be fought tooth and nail to me because even if we lose, we need thoroughness and completeness to hear the whole public record, to hear all of the evidence before across the judicial decisions made. And this, all counties, all cities, you know, in Colorado.
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Oh, Mike Rolick, you’re doing such a great job in shedding light on all of this. I really appreciate it. We’ll talk with you next week and keep up the good work in the spirit of George Washington, okay? Thank you.
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Thank you, Kim. You guys have a great day. Thanks, Mike.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And Jody Hinzey with Mint Financial Strategies is going to have an event tomorrow evening, I think is the online event. And Friday evening is the event. Tomorrow noon, I think, is the online and Friday evening is the in-person regarding the subject is the psychology of retirement. And if you want to learn more about that, give them a call. That number is 303-285-3080. I know they’re getting close to full on the Friday evening event. But give her a call and RSVP because I think it’s going to be super interesting. And, again, she is so great regarding putting together a plan tailored for you for your financial freedom. We talk about freedom all the time. So give Jody Henze a call at MintFinancialStrategies.com. That number is 303-285-3080. And Brad Beck is in studio, co-founder of Liberty Toastmasters. Before we get into that, let’s let people know how they can join us at Liberty Toastmasters.
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They can go to toastmasters.org and look up Liberty Toastmasters and find the link to our website. We have the Denver meeting on the first and third Saturday of the month from 10 to 12. And come and join us. We’ve got a meeting this weekend. And then on the Liberty North up in Longmont, that’s the second and fourth. And it’s just a fun opportunity to listen to some speeches, table topics, which is speaking extemporaneously. And then the goal that we all get is the evaluations. And that’s really where you’re learning and expanding. And you’re in a trusted environment to where people can speak from the heart and give you the feedback you need to grow. And great people, lots of entertaining speeches, important speeches, and a place to practice. So when somebody like Mike is going to city councils, you can get him up in front of a group of people and give your three-minute thoughts. And you practice that kind of thing. in our club. So it’s a great opportunity and we invite everybody to show up.
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Well, and I do find it so interesting what Mike said is that there seems to be a movement to shut down people’s voices. And this is supposed to be a representative government. And so being able, though, to get your thoughts out and you need to be prepared either two to three minutes. So, again, with table topics, it’s extemporaneously so that you can and sometimes you have to adjust. You may think that you have your thoughts. three-minute speech, and then you find out they’ve changed it to two. So you have to be able to adjust, and that’s really important.
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Well, not only that, you get the opportunity to get the sense of what a minute is when you’re speaking, how many words that is. And you can write something down, but it’s not the same as being in front of a town council or a school board. The time goes by very quickly. So if you’re doing pauses or you lose your train of thought and you’re trying to catch up, There’s a second or two. And so before you know it, they’re going to say, gone, the red light comes on, and you don’t get your call to action in. So that’s what we practice.
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And it’s something that I think every person should do because it helps in communication, even just in life. And so we’d really love to have people join us.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and even with the advent of AI becoming more and more prevalent in everything we do, People need to communicate with each other. They need to see each other’s eyes. They need to feel the emotion that you’re trying to transfer to them. So I think it’s even a more important skill, and especially with young people. So if somebody’s 18 or older, come and join us.
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Absolutely. Absolutely. Let’s get over here to your essay that we will roll out this weekend in the newsletter, Belonging to a Brand. So, and you said this one, you typically haven’t had writer’s block, but you had a little bit of writer’s block this time around.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I got a block on my shoulder, so there you go. But imagine you’re walking through an airport. I was in Dallas-Fort Worth and going from a terminal to another terminal. And I hear footsteps, you know, high heel footsteps behind me, you know, and I look over and there’s a well-dressed woman behind me. And as I’m going to the gate, her heels, the sound of her walking is getting faster to catch up to me. I’m like, this is bizarre. And she stopped me almost at my gate, and she said, where’d you get that bag? And I said, I had a little roller bag. And it was a bag that my wife had won for a contest in sales where she worked at the time. And she worked in ladies’ fashion. And I would not know anything about women’s fashion. I barely know enough for men’s fashion. And it had a little insignia on it that said Masouk, which is a nice ladies’ brand. It’s very travel-friendly. And like I said, I wouldn’t know anything about it, but my bag had broke the night before. And I said, can I borrow your bag? It was just a quick overnight thing. And so I did, and I went to a meeting, had all my dirty clothes in there. I’m walking, and this woman comes up to me and says, where’s that bag from? And I told her, and she says, I need that bag. I said, you can’t have my bag. I had dirty clothes in it, for goodness sake. And she insisted that she wanted to buy the bag because she was a Fastinista. She needed to have that status, and she followed the brand. In fact, she was wearing that brand of dress. And I was just like blown away that somebody would even offer you to buy a bag that you had your dirty clothes in. Like, what am I going to do, right? Get a plastic bag? And I started thinking about that. We all belong to brands to some degree, whether it is the shoes we wear, the places we live, the organizations we identify with. And I started to think about all the things, especially in business. Why do people buy certain brands? And there’s an affinity there. There’s a trust. There’s identity. And you want to have a brand that people respect and want to come back to. You think of all the brands that people wear on their body as tattoos, like a Harley Davidson, right? People wearing that insignia on their shoulders. That’s pretty strong branding. Mm-hmm. And so I started to think of all the things that are going on in Colorado and the party that I used to belong to. And it just frustrated me because here we have an opportunity, especially when President Trump won the second time, to do some different things. And you only have a short window. And the same old thing happens. Human nature rears its head and we shoot inward instead of outward. And I mean, when I say shoot, it’s the conversation, it’s the debate, it’s you’re not pure enough. And it just is frustrating. And many of my friends who are great people, I love them. But when we get to something on politics, we can’t agree to disagree and walk away friends. And it just seems that I’ve seen more of a disintegration of our party, of what I used to be as my party. And it’s just frustrating. And I don’t know what the solution is. I know people have tried to get the different groups of people together and hash it out in the book that was out there a couple years ago for the blue book that was written. That’s what the left did. They brought together some pretty high-profile folks. They fought like heck. And then when they left the building, they were in agreement. Here’s our plan, and this is what we’re going to do over the next year, three years, five years. And we seem not to be able to do that. And, you know, of course, you look at the voting records, you know, people who are conservative, who are on the right, tend to vote from almost like a Democrat all the way up to, you know, the people you award of being the folks that are more freedom oriented. And yet, you know, you look at the left and they’re all right, you know, in the lower marks together of not defending freedom, you know, having more rules, more regulation, more laws on the books. And you say, OK, why? And they’re taking orders as opposed to we have a lot of free thinkers, a lot of people who have different opinions, which is great. But if you want to get into leadership, you have to lead. And sometimes you have to follow. Now, that doesn’t mean you have to give up your principles or your values, but it does mean you have to make some tough decisions. And I think too often we make these decisions and then walk away and say, I’m not playing. And we lose.
SPEAKER 14 :
So the question I’m asking is, have you changed your affiliation? No, I have not.
SPEAKER 03 :
I’m still a Republican, and I’m still conservative. I call myself a conservatarian because I believe in liberty. So, you know, there are things that I disagree with, but that’s okay. We have a big tent. We’ve always had a big tent. But if we go back to the… original idea of the Republican Party, it had one purpose when it was initiated, and that was to free the slaves. Well, let’s talk about slavery more. Let’s talk about how the Republican Party, its principles were based on the ability of the individual to live their own life and to pursue their happiness and not to be in bondage. We need to talk about that. We need to be ahead of those things. So when issues come up, we’re grounded in principle. We’re not grounded in, well, I don’t want to talk about it. I’m afraid of offending somebody. Well, learn about these things. Learn about where we started and why it’s important and why the Democrat Party, which goes back long before the Republican Party, and even Jefferson, who was a Democrat Republican, right? But That was a different time and different circumstances, and our country was founded on the idea of individual rights, that all men are created equal. Well, we need to talk about that. And then what are the bills that are out there and base all our arguments on those principles? You’re on solid ground. But when you start going off and playing games with how our legislation is being written and what people are not being able to articulate in a clear and concise way for most people, you run into problems. And I think we’re in that area. We’ve been in that area for quite some time.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, we really have been. And in Colorado, well, I think you were referring probably to Colorado Union of Taxpayers. I think that you have the report that we did. And it’s extensive. It’s not we’re just picking and choosing. I think there were 273 bills that we took positions on. And then our ratings is, how did these legislators rate regarding those bills? And those are foundational principles of protecting the taxpayer, protecting TABOR, Colorado’s Taxpayers’ Bill of Rights, property rights, and parental choice. And so we did have our Colorado Union Taxpayers’ Legislative Kickoff last week, and we had Nineteen legislators that we gave taxpayer protector awards, which is great. And one of the attendees had texted me. She said it was a great event. And we’re not Republican. We’re nonpartisan. But it just happens that those that want to control our lives don’t get very good cut scores. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, they want to help and I don’t need help. I want you to protect my rights. That’s why you’re a legislature, legislator. You know, we are a republic and being a republic, you should represent all of the people in your district. You may have a political philosophy, but the number one should be to protect the rights of your constituents. It shouldn’t be to do more or give more or to legislate in a way that regulates the individual, as long as you’re not harming somebody else, I don’t need more laws. You don’t need more laws. We need to understand why our laws are there. And most of them are negative, especially at a federal level, for a reason. It keeps our representatives, it keeps the judiciary, it keeps the executive in their lane or should. And that runs in the statehouse, it runs in our local municipalities. And when people start saying, well, we need another recreation center or we need to make sure that the houses are all the same color. Really? I mean, you know, that’s too much.
SPEAKER 14 :
And and yes. And to that point now, my colleague, she had texted me and said that that was the most unity that she had seen in a an event with Republicans in a long, long time. Right. And I thought that was a success as well. So we’re going to go to break. I’m talking with Brad Beck about his piece, Belonging to a Brand. And this is actually a really deep subject. And it’s a really important subject. And we have these discussions because of our sponsors. And we’re going to talk with Lorne Levy next hour. But he is your go-to specialist for everything mortgages.
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Welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Brad Beck is in studio with me. And I wanted to mention the Center for American Values located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk. And one of the things that they’ve created is this great podcast series with the co-founders, Drew Dix and Brad Padula. And Drew is a Medal of Honor recipient. And it’s really a great podcast series. It’s words from the silo. I know you’ve enjoyed that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, it’s great. And I love the opening and I just love the conversation between the both of them. And it’s just like two old friends talking about things, but with some really deep understanding of the American founding and why we’re having the issues we do. And it’s just a great program to listen to.
SPEAKER 14 :
And they’re getting ready to start season two.
SPEAKER 03 :
I’m looking forward to it.
SPEAKER 14 :
So check that out at AmericanValueCenter.org, AmericanValueCenter.org. Brad, this belonging to a brand, and we’re talking, I think, about the Republican brand. And here in Colorado, well, the Republican brand has been tarnished, I would say. And I think it’s because we many times have lost our way on those foundational principles. Because those foundational principles… For example, during break I was mentioning this House Bill 26-1001, which let me get back to it here on our cut engaged. The exact title on it is Housing Developments on Qualifying Properties. And ended up on Tuesday, Channel 7 reached out and wanted to have… They were talking about this particular bill. They had the bill sponsor, one of the developers who will benefit from this. And then as president of Colorado Union of Taxpayers, I were opposed to it. And what I find interesting here is that we see on this a lot of different legislation is that it’s picking winners and losers. And so I had the clip of the, it was about three minutes, and I showed it to a young person. Well, I had a conversation with two different people. And the first person said, gosh, affordable housing is so important. I said, it’s subsidized housing. He said, how do you know? And I said, well, when I was on city council, I delved into it. And each project is different. But that particular project was in the county dictated that they had to have certain units that are affordable so that they could do other developments. So your developers adjust to that. But the developer still was getting market rate for those affordable units because the taxpayer was subsidizing it. And so my friend was challenging me on it and said, you have to be careful to say something you don’t know. And I realized I need to go and try to see if I can find the deals that are made on each of these. But I think it’s going to be difficult, but I need to do that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, it reminds me of the story of the two hikers hiking up on a 14er, and they come across a bear. And one of the guy’s hikers climbs up a tree and gets in the bushes high enough in the branches. But the other one doesn’t know what to do, so he falls down and plays dead because he always heard if you see a bear and they’re attacking you, fall down, don’t move. And, of course, he did that, and the bear comes up to him and sniffing all around. The man doesn’t move at all. And all of a sudden, the bear’s around his ear a little bit longer than normal, and then he takes off. And the guy up in the tree comes down, and he said, are you okay? And he says, absolutely, but I noticed that the bear was talking to you. What’s going on with that? What did he say? And the hiker who was playing dead said, be aware of people who are your friends. There’s danger. Be careful if they go up a tree first and don’t take care of you second, you know. Mm-hmm. And it kind of reminds me of that. There’s a lot of danger out there from within who are those who are our friends, who are closest to us, because they’re not grounded in any kind of principle or they just are emoting. You know, everything’s emotion, how I feel. And I want to have people who are around me who are going to say, hey, there’s a bear coming. Let’s have a plan before we even get on that trail to know what to do. And we don’t do that. We have a lot of problems with our branding because we don’t understand where we came from and where we’re going. to make a difference in that community, to move the needle. And we did because we had conversations with people in the community. We worked really closely with various organizations to build bridges. And our state party, you know, says some stupid stuff, especially the leader at the time, not now, but the last cycle. And I was just amazed. I was like, really? We’re going to put that out there? Why? Why can’t we just work on things that we all agree on and move the needle forward? We’ve got Denver and Boulder with the biggest voting block. And we’re negating all the work that the people in Denver do to build bridges, to make things positive. And it makes it really hard for candidates to run. When you’ve got people who are throwing red meat out there and saying, hey, wait a minute, we can’t do this, this, and this. And I could cite examples, but that’s not the point. The point is we need to work together as an organization if we’re going to make a difference. And when we get elected, work together. Otherwise, you’re not at the table. You’re just a bystander.
SPEAKER 14 :
I also think, and we’ve only got about a minute left, though, I really think that we need to stay to our principles. I think we need to have these conversations. So, like, even with CUT, I mentioned at the event that there are times that we will disagree. We’ve decided with CUT that we will stay to these principles of protecting the taxpayer. So that means you don’t pick winners and losers.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
You don’t have laws that treat people differently. And so we’re going to stay to those principles. But I think that that message, that’s the message of our founding. If we go and can articulate it, we have to understand it and articulate it. I think that we can… And my point I was going to make regarding the Channel 7 thing is I showed the clip to a young person as well, and they’re concerned about affordable housing. But when they understood that we have a piece of legislation picking winners and losers that will be approved with no voice from the people, they said that’s not okay. Okay. And so I think if we stay to those messages, we can make that happen. Quick, about 15 seconds there, Brad.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, this story reminds me of when you hear somebody behind you with high heels and they’re walking and they want something, at least listen to them. Don’t react like I did. Say, no, I’m not going to sell you that bag. I probably should have said it and say, honey, I broke it. How much? And let’s work together, right? But I reacted and we have to be a little smarter than that. We have to work a little more diligently to really make things positive rather than fighting each other internally and then not getting things accomplished in the way that we should. So that would be my message.
SPEAKER 14 :
Great message. You’re going to stay for the next episode? I will. I’d love to. Okay. And our quote for the end of the show is George Washington. He said, Almighty God, we make our earnest prayer that thou will keep the United States in thy holy protection. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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Indeed. Let’s have a conversation. Welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for listening. You each are treasured. You’re valued. You have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Wednesday, Producer Joe. Happy Wednesday, Kim. And check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You’ll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. We’ll be rolling out Brad Beck’s Belonging to a Brand this weekend. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com. The text line is 720-605-0647. And Brad Beck is in for our number two as well. It’s great to have you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Thanks for having me. And this program reminds me of the word of the day because it disabuses all the falsehoods out there.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s so interesting you would say that because Dave, who submitted the word, when he said disabuse, he put, and that’s what you do every day, Kim.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, really?
SPEAKER 14 :
It’s spelled D-I-S-A-B-U-S-E. It’s disabuse, to free from falsehood or misconception, to set free from mistakes, to undeceive, to disengage from fallacy or deception, to set right. And again, your challenge is to use disabuse in this sentence today. We’re talking about George Washington throughout the month of February. So our quote of the day is from George Washington. And he said this. He said, interposition in their affairs than those of the United States, and I should be pained to believe that they have forgotten that agency which was so often manifested during our revolution, or that they fail to consider the omnipotence of that God who is alone able to protect them. And the divine provider was with us at the beginning of our country, and he is with us now. We are in the third founding, and this is – I shared this with you. This came in from one of our listeners. She said, good morning. Listening to Brad, I agree that we all need to work together. but it’s a massive flaw on the right that they keep capitulating to the left so the needle keeps moving to the left and never is brought back to a more conservative founders viewpoint is time for conservatives to stand their ground and not given an inch we need to claim a lot of ground that we’ve lost this country will turn into a communist state if we do not reclaim the conservative viewpoint and that conservative viewpoint I think it’s in the Declaration of Independence that all men are created equal. So what that means is you can’t have laws that treat one person differently than another, even if it is for affordable subsidized housing. Whatever it is, affordable housing is the word right now which is moving us towards communism. We’re seeing it take property rights. We’re seeing it undercut people’s, it’s undercutting, it’s treating people differently. And so you look at our founding, all men are created equal with these rights from God of life, liberty, pursuit of happiness. I think that’s the stake that we put in the ground and we stand by that, Brad.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, look at the word happiness. It doesn’t mean something that you go out and buy something new and it makes you happy, a new car, a new dress, a new whatever. Happiness is really self-regulation because if you regulate it in your own movements and beliefs and actions, you’re not taking from other people. And what’s interesting about that word happiness, it comes from the Greek eudaimonia, which is the good spark. And if we’re going to be good and we’re going to do things that are right, they make us happy because we know they’re right. We’re on the balance beam, if you will. And one of the things that we do and I do it, we’re all guilty of it. You know, I can get an exemption, a homestead exemption because I’m over 65 on my home. Well, what does that do to young people? I know, you know, Social Security were forced. Our employers are forced to take a certain amount of money. And I understand the history of it going back to FDR. But what does that do? Well, I was paying for you are paying for our listeners are paying for those who came before us. And we’re not paying for our retirement. There is no lockbox. There’s no money there. So we’re stealing from our grandchildren. Now, I know the arguments of, well, I put money in. Correct. You were forced to do that. But we’ve got to change that. We’ve got to not kick the can down the road. We need to address that now because just like with the Trump accounts that are coming out for the young people, in 18 years, if they keep… putting money into it or a parent or a grandparent or a company that somebody works for they’ll have some money to start off with and pay for a trade school or college or for a house and figure it out but most kids today i mean we’re going to have a gap of 18 years so what are we going to do for those folks you know and so we have to address these things and they’re not the easy things but the things we need to talk about if you’re going to be a legislator if you’re going to be a representative And we kick the can down the road.
SPEAKER 14 :
But many times it’s not popular. Right. And so they kick that can down the road. We’ll continue the discussion. We’ve got Lorne Levy on the line. And he is our mortgage specialist, a great sponsor of The Kim Monson Show and America’s Veterans Stories. Lorne Levy, welcome.
SPEAKER 19 :
Good morning, guys.
SPEAKER 14 :
Morning. And when I teased you being on the show today in the newsletter, I said you were going to address the Fed’s inaction. So what’s going on with the Fed? And I guess what the Fed is inaction is action, right?
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, technically it is. I mean, we talk about this all the time, Kim, and you asked me before what I thought they would do, and the answer was that I didn’t think they would do anything this time around. You know, they’re doing, I think, what they say they’re going to do, what they’re supposed to do is be data-dependent and data-driven, and the inflation data has showed us that we’re running closer to 3% rather than the 2% they want. The unemployment numbers, you know, you hear about certain companies like Amazon and certain things doing… layoffs and whether or not that’s brought on by AI or not and all this. But across the board, you don’t hear about mass layoffs. And so unemployment numbers seem to be holding steady. And so I’ve told you in our conversations many times that they typically don’t cut rates into a strong economy. And so and they also have 12 voting members, not just the chairman of the Fed doesn’t make the decision. So I believe this time around it was 10 votes to not raise at all and two to raise by a quarter. So it wasn’t like it was even close. So they didn’t do anything, which is kind of what was expected this time around. And so now, you know, we’ve seen President Trump nominate a new Federal Reserve Chairman. We’ll see how that confirmation process goes, and we’ll just see what happens with the data going forward.
SPEAKER 14 :
So what does that mean? Because Trump has said he wanted to get rid of Jerome Powell. So where’s that at? I had seen the name of the new chair. So what’s going on with that?
SPEAKER 19 :
So, you know, there’s been discussion from day one of whether or not Trump has the power as a president to fire Jerome Powell. And that’s pretty much going to go by the boards because his term ends in May anyhow. And we’re already in February. What would be interesting is that the way Powell is set up is he’s also a Fed governor, and so he can stay on for, I believe, two more years as a voting member, just not the chairman. And he won’t be the one doing the press conferences and stuff, but he would still have a vote if he decides to stay on. So he hasn’t made that decision yet. Yeah, he nominated this gentleman, Kevin Warsh, who, by all accounts, is a really, really intelligent, smart, actually commonest of a guy who’s been around and worked for several presidents. And so he’s supposed to be good. And we’ll see if he gets confirmed through and he would take over in May or June. OK, so I don’t think there’s going to be a whole lot going on until then. But he’ll be the one that now runs the room and takes everyone’s opinions. But again, he’s just going to be one vote, right? He can’t force anybody to do anything. So it’s a committee and it’ll stay that way.
SPEAKER 14 :
When you say you can’t force anybody to do anything, watching all this legislation down at the Colorado State House, I’m seeing all this force that they’re trying to put upon us, Lauren.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, that’s a little different, I think, than in this particular room at the Federal Reserve. I understand what you’re saying. Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. Well, so, basically, rates are probably staying right where they were last week?
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, actually, they’ve crept up ever so slightly, and not because of anything Fed-related. The markets have been really jittery lately with a lot of this, you know, we’re coming out of a run here where It was almost like back in the dot-com days where you just threw the word dot-com on the end of a company’s name and it went crazy. AI has been like that for a while, and now there’s starting to be some concerns of how these companies are going to pay for all these promises for AI and all the data, all the storage. And so the market’s been a little hit or miss lately in jittery, like big ups and big downs. And so there’s been some people that are just moving into gold and then out of gold, and things are kind of crazy. And so the 10-year note has gone crazy. Between 425 and 430, which has moved rates up ever so slightly by a little bit. But that could be only for a week, you know. That’s why we always talk about just staying ready and nimble, you know.
SPEAKER 14 :
And if people are thinking about buying a new home or a second mortgage or a reverse mortgage, what’s that number to reach you, Lorne Levy?
SPEAKER 19 :
The best way is always just call 303-880-8881. Okay.
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SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, thank you so much.
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SPEAKER 14 :
And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And Brad Beck is in studio with me. He is co-founder of Liberty Toastmasters. And how can people find us?
SPEAKER 03 :
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SPEAKER 14 :
And the Liberty Toastmasters Denver meets the first and third Saturdays of each month, and Liberty Toastmasters North the second and fourth Saturdays of each month. And I did want to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation, and they are going to have their golf tournament. It’s one of the first golf tournaments out of the chute. It will be in May, and you can get early bird pricing right now by going to their website. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org, usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And on the line with us is Trent Luce. It’s a Trent Luce Wednesday. You know him. He is a sixth-generation rancher from Nebraska. Welcome, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hi, Kim.
SPEAKER 14 :
How you doing?
SPEAKER 07 :
Fabulous. I’m in North Dakota today. Have been all week.
SPEAKER 14 :
What are you doing there?
SPEAKER 07 :
First thing I did was attended the Northwest Landowners Meeting, which took place in Bismarck Monday and Tuesday of this week. a tremendous plethora of information about where we are at in energy production and recovery, what the rare earth mineral future looks like, what nuclear small modular reactors, what that really means, recovering lithium from water. I mean, we covered the gamut. At the end of the day, there was a tremendous amount of frustration about government continuing to, state and federal government, continuing to go about projects violating eminent domain constitutional rules and basically saying we don’t like them and we think we’re unconstitutional, sue us.
SPEAKER 14 :
Wow. And this is on the eminent domain stuff? Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. uh well we’re seeing that even here in colorado uh it’s everywhere it’s yeah it’s not a north dakota thing it’s an everywhere thing we have uh but i do have good news in that regard senate bill 88 which is to give landowners protection and once again the state that leads the nation in doing this south dakota came out of the committee yesterday nine to zero to go to the senate floor that would give more protection for landowners against government using an eminent domain as a tool and a weapon.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and the other thing, as you know, here in Colorado, the government has given eminent domain to Xcel Energy, which is not a government… That’s really beyond belief to me, Trent Luce, that that’s occurring.
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s occurring everywhere. That’s the type of thing that we’re dealing with. There are transmission lines… in particularly North Dakota, Nebraska, that’s an issue. It’s just the commonplace. And at every turn, people say, sue us. But Derek Broughton, which is the attorney that’s the number one attorney in North Dakota for land rights, he said point blank, and because I have a friend in Kansas down by Wichita, that When they came through, Sunflower Power said they’re going to come through with the transmission lines on his property in two different counties. Mike Andrea is his name. And he said, no, you’re not. You’re not taking my land. Take it in a domain if you want to. I’ll take you to court. That was in 2017. And I don’t remember the exact numbers, Kim, but the just is what matters. They were offering him like $20,000 as one-time payment for an easement to go through his property, put this transmission line up. Three weeks ago, he settled, and he ended up getting $1.6 million.
SPEAKER 14 :
For his land?
SPEAKER 07 :
For the easement to put those transmission lines on his property. It was seven years. He was fighting him seven years. And so I asked Derek Brown the question. I said, why are landowners always afraid of eminent domain? Eminent domain, if you’re willing to endure it, it can be your friend. And I shared that example. And then Derek said that he, as an attorney representing landowners, did not have one bad case where people took him to court and said, you can’t use him in a domain, we’re going to sue you. And he said in every single case, the landowner came out ahead.
SPEAKER 14 :
But what about finding the attorney and the attorney’s legal fees? Because those are so darn expensive.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, when you win this, the legal fees are reimbursed.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, but if you… But you have to incur those, though, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
You have to incur those. And he did walk through it. He said the worst case scenario is probably two years, even though I just give you an example of seven. And he said, I shouldn’t throw any number out, but it wouldn’t be difficult to be at $100,000 that you’re going to have an attorney’s fees to get to that point. So you’re absolutely right. But At the end of the day, we should not be afraid of eminent domain. You just have to be willing to endure it and stand for what you believe in and funnel the money into the attorney to get it done. But my point, Kim, and the most troubling part of this whole discussion is that we have policymakers, and I know this is a bigger issue in Colorado than anywhere else, that are just doing things and say, well, if you don’t like it, take it to the court system. That’s not how it should be done.
SPEAKER 14 :
It is not how it is supposed to be done. And that’s why when we are electing our representatives, they take an oath to the Constitution. And so within that, there’s proper laws that are to be introduced. We’re seeing things out here in Colorado, which is… It’s beyond belief what’s happening. We talked about this House Bill 1001. Trent mentioned this to Brad as well. And it was heard, I think, in committee, I think it was yesterday. And it’s regarding affordable housing, which would be subsidized housing, or I’m going to start to say Marxist housing, right? On qualified property. So let’s say if a school district had received land in a single family neighborhood and the school district was required to set aside land for a school. They didn’t use the land for the school. The school still owns it now. there could be an affordable three to four story affordable housing unit put on that property and it doesn’t even have to go through the regular and I think there’s too much regulation for sure but it doesn’t have to go through any of the planning or zoning it would be in the legislation it says it can be approved administratively which that means the bureaucrats can approve that Trent
SPEAKER 07 :
That was brought up as well because that seems to be an approach. Everybody knows or should know that there are two sections in each township that are considered school land. And it seems as though all of these projects target school land. And it’s happening in our school district ourselves in central Nebraska where school land is targeted for a solar project. And that is a direct violation of what the whole plan was from the beginning.
SPEAKER 03 :
Do you want to weigh in on this at all? Well, you know, what you’re addressing, Dren, this is Brad Beck. The administrative state and administrative law on so many of these issues, and it’s a way we talked earlier about being efficient with government. And it’s supposed to be deliberative, not efficient. And I’m sure you’re seeing that with energy, especially in North Dakota. In fact, I had some relatives back around the turn of the century that homesteaded in North Dakota around Bowman. So I could be living largely if they hadn’t abandoned that property. But anyways, it’s amazing to me that there isn’t more of an outcry because of the administrative aspect rather than the deliberative. You got thoughts on that?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Did your family maintain the mineral rights? Because so many times on. Yeah, there you go.
SPEAKER 03 :
They left. We went back to Minnesota because they thought it was warmer.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. Nobody did that. Everybody sold their surface rights in North Dakota because they’re split. Yeah. They maintain their mineral rights. So they now live, you know, in Florida and they’re getting an oil check from the Bakken every other week.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. I wish they did that. They didn’t do that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. I mean, we just continue to see government and bureaucrats. running roughshod over the people. And we’ve moved so far away from understanding that it is we the people. And it’s only going to happen when we demand that it comes back, whether it’s an administrative or a legislative process. We have to demand accountability.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and to that, the people’s voice is so important. And what Brad was alluding to, we had Mike Rollick on earlier in our number one, and he’s become a real watchdog in his spare time regarding government. And so Arvada, apparently the bureaucracies, the hired bureaucrats, had proposed that they either limit or get rid of public comment.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, limit it to about an hour.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, oh, limit public comment to an hour to make government more efficient. Now, I think those two were – and one of our listeners said government is not more efficient. It’s really a way of shutting down voices. But the elected representatives voted against that, which is good. But we are seeing – and, again, here in Colorado is – I call them PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties, that they want to milk the taxpayer, but they don’t want the taxpayer to have a voice whatsoever, Trent.
SPEAKER 07 :
And the other thing that I brought out in this meeting as people were walking through, they always referenced, for example, and Brad brought up the Bakken oil, so we’ll talk about that for a minute. It’s easy for them to talk about in the last seven years, that has contributed $170 million to the state government of North Dakota, just Bakken oil tax proceeds. So I asked the question, I said, isn’t there a better way to assess how the Bakken oil, which I’m in favor of, but how it benefits the citizens of the state? Because the money that goes to the state government is maybe working against the citizens of the state, not working to benefit the citizens of the state. But we’re trying to improve the quality of life for the citizens, not get more money into the coffers for the state government. And there isn’t a real good index and formula that looks at that. He said, well, we can do some estimates on the number of people that will be impacted. If you’re not doing something that improves the quality of life for the people that reside within your state or your district… We’re not really looking at what’s important. Getting more money into state tax funds is not the answer.
SPEAKER 14 :
Getting more money into the pockets of individual citizens by reducing taxes and fees would help everyday people be able to thrive and prosper.
SPEAKER 07 :
One hundred percent.
SPEAKER 14 :
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SPEAKER 14 :
And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And if you are working towards your own financial freedom, Jody Henze with Mint Financial Strategies can help. And she’s got a couple of great events coming up. Tomorrow on Thursday noon, there will be an online event. And the subject is the psychology of retirement. And then an in-person event on Friday evening. And so give her a call. I think that she still has a little bit of room left for the events. And that number is 303-285-3080. She said you plan for retirement from a financial standpoint. But there’s all these emotional things that happen as well. So I think it’s going to be a great couple of events. That number is 303-285-3080. And Trent Luce is on the line. And he’s a sixth generation pastor. rancher from Nebraska, Brad Beck, co-founder of Liberty Toastmasters, is in studio. And Trent, this came in because you mentioned your friend that had sued regarding eminent domain. He’d been offered $20,000. After seven years, he received $1.6 million. But one of our listeners, Mark, said, my experience is that most landowners don’t have the money to sue the government over unjust land use issues. Furthermore, attorneys won’t represent on a contingency basis because the class action method is not possible. Trent, I think that there’s a lot of that out there, Trent.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, I agree. And that’s the limiting factor. But, and by the way, Derek brought and walked through why it costs you money to go with the contingency factor and you should not do that. But I’m just telling you that this is happening because government officials know everything that was just said there to be true. And so they’re rolling the dice saying, we’re going to do this. Take us to court. You don’t have enough money to stand on. We got to find an answer to that. We have to come to the aid. of property rights because when we lose property rights and a government bully who knows that we don’t have the financial wherewithal to stand up for what is right, they’re going to continue to win and take land away.
SPEAKER 14 :
So another example regarding out here in Elbert County is all these different eminent domain cases. Excel has asked that instead of having each of those cases heard by the court, this is my understanding, that they want to lump all of those eminent domain cases together, which I think what they’re trying to do is they’re trying to get this transmission line approved so that before the tax credits are supposed to run out. And so that’s why they are doing everything they can to fast track it. And so these different people with their imminent domain cases, they’re getting all lumped together to be heard all at once. And there’s something really wrong with that, Trent.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, 100%. And they try to create isolation so that you don’t talk to your neighbors. The answer truly comes back to the community standing together. And I’m really tired of one statement because I’ve had conversations with friends and people who typically think like I do, and then they come up with this, well, the money’s already been allocated. If I don’t take it, my neighbor’s going to get it, and I’m going to be at a disadvantage. I get that every single day, and that is what’s causing our problem. If we as a community stand together and we put more teeth into these agreements… We will win. But at this point, they’re picking us off one by one.
SPEAKER 03 :
Brad Beck. You know, I wanted to make a connection because when Kim opened the show, Trent, she gave a quote by George Washington. And the word that was in there that I wasn’t sure of was interposition. And it’s actually a legal term. And in American constitutional history, interposition is claimed as a right of the state to place its authority between the citizens and the federal government. when it believes that the federal government is acting unconstitutionally. And so we read that word, and a lot of people just glaze right past it. But what you’re talking about is an interposition that goes back from our very founding. And I think that’s one of the things that people don’t understand. They’re not aware of the word, what it means, and how to frame it in a way that a lawyer could say something or an entity can say something and get between you and your government. And when the government has all the money and the resources, the citizen doesn’t have the opportunity to make a case for property rights.
SPEAKER 07 :
Brad, I’ve never used the word interposition, and now I’m going to wear it out. I agree 100%.
SPEAKER 14 :
it’s a great word i was just you know as kim was reading that i thought what the heck does that really mean good for good for you because i didn’t really and the quote was this trent by george washington i am sure that never was a people who had more reason to acknowledge a divine interposition in their affairs than those of the united states and i should be pained to believe that they have forgotten that agency which was so often manifested during our revolution or that they fail to consider the omnipotence of that God who is alone able to protect them. So that was the whole quote, Trent.
SPEAKER 07 :
So to finish that thought out and tie it into what we’re talking about here, either one of you will be able to finish this sentence because we have been given a promise to pursue what?
SPEAKER 14 :
Our happiness.
SPEAKER 07 :
Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. John Locke originally wanted that to say to pursue life, liberty, and land. And people of the day, even the founding fathers, were afraid that that would confuse and cause problems, so they changed the term land for pursuit of happiness, assuming that people would know that owning land created happiness.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, yeah. We talked about it earlier because the word happiness, from my understanding, comes from the word eudaimonia, which is the good spark, which over time has come to mean happiness, which is being self-regulated. It’s a virtue. And if you’re self-regulated and you don’t take things that aren’t yours, then you are more happy because your fellow neighbor will do the same thing. And there’s a trust built up. And that’s where community comes from.
SPEAKER 07 :
One hundred percent.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. That’s a rabbit hole. Sorry. And we’ve got a text message that came in. It says, what I see in North Dakota is the oil revenues are going into state coffers, which they can turn around and use to fund wind and solar projects against our will. Your thoughts on that, Trent?
SPEAKER 07 :
We have had far too many wind projects. They’re continually permitted. There’s another one permitted again last week. I can’t say that that revenue is directly going to that from the oil money. There are funds that distribute money. A lot of it goes to schools, to be honest. Every school gets a big chunk of that money. I’d have to know exactly how that is going to contribute financially to the growth and wind And now solar, which has been far too big, I agree. But I can’t say that’s the problem.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. We’re going to change subjects now because we didn’t get to this last week. And this is from the High Country Advocate. It says, And she is the head of the State Land Board here in Colorado. And one of the headlines is in this, a 10-year Moffitt County leasee lost 9,600 acres despite superior stewardship scores. CNC Cattle scored 18 points on stewardship versus Eli Ranch’s 15, but Eli’s $57 per alum bed, 203% higher stewardship. drove the 5-0 vote we can either do top tier stewardship on our state lands or we can offer a high lease payment cnc cindy mckee told commissioners we can’t do both so what’s your thoughts on this whole report here um i sent it last week hopefully you had a chance to look at that i did not Okay. So, and it says there’s grazing restrictions on 1,500 acres. Geothermal companies, I-576,000 acres. My concern here is that… Starting to see, well, here’s the report card. It says agriculture leases displaced despite superior stewardship, conservation spending advanced on speculative markets, transparency gaps widened. And you are familiar, though, with the Colorado State Land Board and the new head of that.
SPEAKER 07 :
I am. I am. And I’m also telling you that it plays right into what we’ve been talking about, which is to displace acres from food production and completely ignore rights. What I’m alarmed about is that the report is comparing one grazer to another. Did I hear you say that? Yes. In 2009, it was the first time that I spoke for the Lignite Energy Council in North Dakota. And at that time, and anybody who was aware, the newest plant had come online at Beulah, and they had this whole new set of scrubbers, and it was considered a clean plant versus the older coal plants, which are dirty. And I remember scolding them and getting away with it. By the way, they asked me back two more times. And what I was scolding them about was that when you start saying that this is a clean coal-fired power plant versus this plant, which is not, you’re going to create a division, and everybody’s going to fail. And if you look at what the Department of Energy and the EPA have said, that since 1989, 1991, All coal-fired power plants have scrubbed 92% of sulfur oxide emissions, 89% of nitrous oxide emissions, 25% of all CO2. And now we’re to the point where everybody knows who’s paying attention. We don’t have enough sulfur in our soil that we have to add sulfur to the fertilizer mix. And all of that came about because we allowed the government to pit one against another within an industry. I don’t know anything about the index. I don’t care about the index of one grazer versus another grazer. That’s to do nothing other than eliminating all grazers.
SPEAKER 14 :
Which that’s what I’m concerned about is with this Rose Marino and the Colorado State Land Board.
SPEAKER 07 :
I have no doubt that is her true intent.
SPEAKER 14 :
And we really need to, to your point, we need to unite instead of, again, this is pitting one grazer against another. Ultimately, it will not be good for any of the grazers with what’s happening there. So any other comments on the state land board? And then we’ll go to break.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I just want to remind everybody that grazing is not just a benefit to families who are doing that. It protects, it removes cellulose material that causes massive fire. It is the proper utilization, and we need to have a toy guide create a room for animals to begin with to take that cellulose material, upcycle it into the most nutrient-dense food substance on the planet. Attacking grazers is creating an environmental hazard for all people in the state.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s quite a dot to connect there, Brad, huh?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I love it because you used the language of the left, upcycle. They love that word. So we should use it more often in our case.
SPEAKER 07 :
I was trying to interproject, interpose. Keep using it. Interposition. Interposition. I’m going to write that down right now.
SPEAKER 14 :
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SPEAKER 03 :
It’s a great podcast. Everybody should listen.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. For the month of February, we are highlighting George Washington. And on this day in, what year was that? Was it 1789? February 4th, 1789, the Electoral College convened. And George Washington was unanimously elected president of the United States with 69 electoral votes. He won the support from each participating state. And no other president since has come into office with a universal mandate to lead. And again, on this day, February 4, 1789, the Electoral College convened and elected George Washington as our first president. And it’s… as we are going to be going through the history of George Washington. So, Trent Luce, you weren’t there that day in 1789, were you?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, but I showed up in 1794 when George Washington led 13,000 militiamen to put the farmers out of business in western Pennsylvania because they weren’t paying their taxes. Shays’ Rebellion.
SPEAKER 14 :
Was that Shays’? Is that also known as the Whiskey Rebellion?
SPEAKER 07 :
It is also known as the Whiskey Rebellion. And I like to share that because we know that George Washington had a vision, but yet he still contributed to that government ruling over the citizens of the state.
SPEAKER 14 :
So explain the Whiskey Rebellion to our listeners, Trent.
SPEAKER 07 :
The Western Farmer, Western Farmers of Pennsylvania… were at a disadvantage and they did not have the ability to get their farm produce to the people of Philadelphia and the east where the colonies had developed. And so they started making whiskey and selling whiskey and did not pay their taxes. And so George Washington went after them and they were doing that as a means of survival because of the disadvantage they were at from a geographical region. And George Washington loaded up 13,000 militia men on horses and headed to shut them down.
SPEAKER 14 :
So let’s think about that because taxes is really the reason that America was founded, overtaxation in Colorado. Well, in America today, we are overtaxed, overfeed significantly. And we, I think, are getting to a tipping point on this Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 07 :
I agree with you 100%. And a very serious note, In the last week, it’s almost been a daily occurrence that I’ve been told about two farmers here. My two neighbors are going broke. They just filed bankruptcy. The farm population is struggling. And more times than not, I can’t say this is all across the board, we have neighbors doing the same thing. I’ve looked up some of them because you can find what USDA payments go to people. Most of the time, it’s people who get some of the larger USDA payments. And we become so addicted to a payment that we forget what our real job is, and that is to take care of the land and produce what people need. But the exodus of people from agriculture right now is alarming.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, so property taxes is one of the big factors, and then the inputs are also big factors in all of that. It breaks my heart to hear this, Trent. And this is one of the reasons why the carrot of transmission lines and wind and solar, you’ve seen farmers and ranchers say, you know, taking that money because money’s so tight. They want to try to maintain keeping their property.
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
SPEAKER 07 :
And I’ll tell you another thing that contributes to financial hardship at our house, and I think it’s the case everywhere, particularly in the farm community, you don’t have some national insurance plan that you’re a part of from health insurance. And it’s not just health insurance, it’s farm insurance. Landowner insurance, vehicle insurance, they are constantly dinging money out of you for these insurance schemes. And I’m putting it parallel to what’s going on with property taxes, which are unbearable. So it’s a combination of all the above, but insurance is a huge burden for any farm family to bear.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right, because of all the equipment and that as well. We’ve not really talked about that. But, yeah, getting squeezed with inputs, property taxes, insurance. And all of this ultimately will play out at the grocery store in the urban area, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 07 :
Coming to a store near you soon, like tomorrow. Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, we’ve taken for granted an abundant and affordable food supply. We’ve taken for granted an abundant, reliable, efficient, affordable energy supply from naturally occurring hydrocarbons. And we are at a time of choosing of where we’re going to go with all this.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you, Ronald Reagan. That was a great speech you gave in 1969. Thank you.
SPEAKER 14 :
And we are, again, look that up.
SPEAKER 03 :
I wish it was more persuasive because if Goldwater got in, we’d have a different country right now. And people don’t know that speech and don’t know. I mean, one commercial created a fear factor that fundamentally changed the way the government ended up being. And unfortunately, it put Reagan on the map, but it didn’t do much for Goldwater.
SPEAKER 07 :
So one could ask the question legitimately, Brad, with the revelation that that speech and Barry Goldwater brought, how long have we been fighting election integrity?
SPEAKER 03 :
Since the beginning.
SPEAKER 07 :
There you go.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, since the beginning. Like I said earlier, in the first hours, history tends to rhyme, and we don’t know it. So we act shocked when things happen, and we go, when did that happen? That’s been going on a long time.
SPEAKER 07 :
Maybe since, like, 1774. Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and even addressing what you said about Washington, because, you know, great men in the beginning, but they’re human beings, and human beings aren’t perfect. And so there’s a little grace there, but I’m glad we had those folks that were there in the beginning, even with the debates and the back and forth, because they were the right person at the right time. They weren’t the perfect person, but human nature isn’t perfect either. Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
So, Trent, I’m pensive on all this. What should Washington have done regarding the Whiskey Rebellion?
SPEAKER 07 :
I’m not going to be like me saying what the Broncos should have done to win the game. I don’t know. I have no clue. I did know they lost. That was pretty good for me. And all I knew, they lost because the week before, I’m at a meeting in Denver that we couldn’t start on Saturday night until the Bronco game got over.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
I don’t know, Kim.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, this whole taxes thing. You get me speechless sometimes, Trent, as I’m trying to just think through these issues. But I guess the bottom line is, let’s look at where we are in 2026. We are overtaxed. We are overfeed. And we’ve got to get this turned around. And I do believe we are in the third founding of our country. So Trent Luce, great to have you. We’ll talk next week. And Brad Beck, what’s your final thought as you’d like to wrap this whole thing up?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, there’s so much opportunity out there, and I think we, with all the craziness and all the things coming at us so quickly, we need to be grounded in our principles, our values, be certain about the people that are around you, your family and your friends, and just keep going forward. Don’t let them get you down. You’ve got to be optimistic about the future because we’ve got our youth coming. our children, our grandchildren to think about. And we live in the greatest country ever created by man and divine providence that brought us to this dance. So keep moving forward.
SPEAKER 14 :
We will keep moving forward. And our quote for the end of the show is from George Washington. And it was this. He said, And also I wanted to mention on that word interposition, he used divine interposition in that particular quote as well. So, my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I don’t want no one to cry But tell them if I don’t serve
SPEAKER 18 :
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