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In this episode, Kim Monson invites listeners into a critical conversation about the crossroads of politics and healthcare with expert Dr. Travis Morrell. Discover the implications of government policies on personal freedoms and the controversial bills aiming to shape children’s healthcare in Colorado. From the power dynamics of developmental influence to the ethics of legislative control, this episode is a compelling call to examine the freedoms we cherish and the forces that threaten them.
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indeed let’s have a conversation and welcome to the kim monson show thank you so much for joining us you’re each treasured you’re valued you have purpose today strive for excellence take care of your heart your soul your mind and your body my friends we were made for this moment in history and thank you to this team that i get to work with that’s joe producer joe luke rachel zach echo charlie mike theresa amanda and all the people here at crawford broadcasting it is wednesday producer joe Happy Wings Day, Kim. Yeah. And we’ve got a lot going on here at the show. So fasten your seatbelts. We’ve got a great show planned for you. Check out my website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You’ll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And this. The text line is 720-605-0647. On the show, we focus on a variety of things, but certainly on elections. We talk about climate change. We want to protect our children and property rights. I thank the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. It’s because of these sponsors that we are on the air. We’ve got a jam-packed show planned for you, so I’m going to just jump right into everything that we have going on here. First of all, our word of the day is mischievous. And it is spelled M-I-S-C-H-I-E-V-O-U-S. And number one, it could be harmful or injurious. It could be, number two, able or tending to cause annoyance, trouble, or minor injury. Irresponsibly playful. And so your challenge is to use the word mischievous in a sentence today. There’s very mischievous things going on down at the state legislature. We’ll be talking with Dr. Travis Morrell in just a moment about that, as well as my fellow CUT board member, Ramey Johnson, on that in this second segment in our number one. Our quote of the day, I went to Alexander the Great. And he was born in 356 B.C., died 323 B.C. He’s commonly known, well, it was Alexander III of Macedon. He’s known as Alexander the Great. He was a king of the ancient Greek kingdom of Macedon. He succeeded his father Philip II to the throne in 336 B.C. at the age of 20. Spent most of his ruling years conducting a lengthy military campaign throughout Western Asia, Central Asia, parts of South Asia, and Egypt. By the age of 30, he had created one of the largest empires in history, stretching from Greece to northwest India. He was undefeated in battle and is widely considered to be one of the history’s greatest and most successful military commanders. And he said this, And just ruminate on this today. I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep. I’m afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion. And that is our quote of the day. Main headline that I wanted to mention is it is remarkable that Elon Musk and company, they were able to get the astronauts back from the space station after over 250 days. I think it was supposed to be an eight-day tour up there. And during the election, Biden, the old Biden-Harris administration just left him hanging up there. And so they needed to get him down. And so it was two, our two astronauts, as well as I think a couple of cosmonauts, they splashed down in the Gulf of America. And my, my, my, that is pretty amazing what’s happening in our world today. And so let’s get over here to it, though. Dr. Travis Morrell reached out and said, Kim, there is a bill today that he is so concerned about. It’s Senate Bill 25129, Legally Protected Healthcare Activity Protections. Sounds like it might be a good idea, but maybe it’s very mischievous. Dr. Travis Morrell, welcome to the show.
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Good morning, Kim. Thanks so much for having me.
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Well, and let’s get into it. First of all, give us some of your creds, why you are an expert in this arena and why you’re so concerned.
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Well, this is an issue that I’ve been following for several years. I’m a senior fellow at Do No Harm, and I also am the chair and founder of Colorado Principal Physicians, which I’m proud to say has doctors of all kinds of specialties across the state, very concerned about evidence-based medicine. And we see that this gender care for kids is totally made up and very harmful for children.
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Okay, so why are you concerned about the Senate Bill 25129?
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Well, as you know, Kim, what it does is it protects doctors from out-of-state lawsuits or prosecutions, which, and this is dry humor here, sounds really great as a doctor. I’d love to just be immune to being sued on my daily basis. That sounds great. I’m being sarcastic here a bit. But the interesting thing is this bill only legally protects or shields doctors for two kinds of care. That’s gender-affirming care and abortion. And so that’s kind of a problem for me. Why just those? Why not for doctors delivering babies or treating cancer? And to me, what it sounds like is we’re taking responsibility for what’s supposedly a medical diagnosis, that’s this gender dysphoria and the medical harms that go along with that. We’re taking that medical responsibility off of the doctors, and we’re putting it further on to kids. And this is, I think, only done really because it’s so dangerous, unproven, and we don’t think the long-term results are going to be good at all. Kids who we know might regret this several years later.
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Well, and I want to note the sponsors on this. They are all Democrats. Senator Lisa Cutter, Senator Faith Winter, Representative Judy Joseph, and Representative Karen McCormick. Now, this is being heard later today in hearing, yes?
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Yes, that’s right, at 2.30. And I just want to say McCormick’s my favorite. She taught me that gender identity forms in the second trimester of pregnancy in testimony in a bill just a few weeks ago, which is, of course, just a mockery of intelligence.
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Yes, and so this, Dr. Travis Morrell, there seems like there in Colorado, seems like it is at the tip of the spear on this transgender, this activist transgender extremist going after our children. Colorado seems to be the place where it’s really happening.
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You couldn’t be more correct. I see that they see that maybe we’re at close to 27 states have banned this. Several countries in Europe have banned it outside of experimental conditions. And I think Governor Polis, Representative McCormick and the others are hoping that we’ll continue doing this barbaric practice long after other states have quit. We’ll be like North Korea, isolated, still doing this.
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Okay, and there’s been some other bills as well. I was down and testified regarding a bill that Scott Bottoms had as well, and this was all about legal action regarding doctors that were performing transgender surgeries on children as well or pharmaceutical stuff on kids. I was shocked, Dr. Travis Morrell. There were maybe three or four laws And women physicians, although I guess they don’t know for sure if they’re women or not, but women physicians that were testifying in favor of making sure that physicians wouldn’t have – you know what that was about? That was to take away the mandate. that insurance companies had to cover the insurance that if they’d done something that they could be sued for. Now I’m losing the word.
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Yes, you’re correct. It was for a statute of limitations. Representative Bottoms, Bradley, and DeGraff have all pushed really good bills trying to protect kids from this. And you’re right. There were several doctors who basically their argument was, hey, when I do this for kids, they love it, and they just love me, and they think I’m the best. And, well, guess what? I bet if I gave your kid drugs or if you gave my kid something they weren’t supposed to have, gave him a gun or something, sure, he’d probably be very excited. But that doesn’t mean it’s good. The whole point of adults is we’re supposed to protect kids from things that we know long-term. If a 15-year-old girl would take away her breasts, she might regret that at 25 or 35, or the hormones that we put on these kids when they’re even as young as 8 to 13 for puberty blockers. So that was their main argument, was that kids love it and love them for it, which is, I get it. I get that that’s very rewarding to feel like you’re part of this life-saving care, but you have to step back a minute and think of what these kids are going to want in 5 or 10 years.
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Okay, and so, Dr. Travis Morrell, you’ll be down at the Judiciary. Is this the House Judiciary Committee today?
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House Judiciary, yes.
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Okay, and the room is HCR 0107. I think that’s on the bottom floor, isn’t it?
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I think, yes, 0107, yes, ma’am.
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Okay, and so I know you would really appreciate people participating. stepping up to testify, what would be the three key points? If somebody was going to testify via Zoom or come down, what would be the three key points that you would want them to highlight in their testimony?
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Well, that’s a great question. I want to emphasize that even if you’re a mom or a dad or you’re not, you’re an adult and you’ve just seen that this is a bad idea, I think you have the authority to testify. So please do say your piece. You should, you know, you should be compassionate. Number one, remember that the kids are the victims and there’s nothing wrong with them. There’s something wrong with the adults that are doing this. Number two, I think you can see obvious, the obvious harms. And number three, if you have a story from your own life that you’ve seen that you’ve either grown up and regretted something or that you’ve seen these kids be hurt, stories like that really connect.
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so dr travis morrell when i gave my testimony i began it with in the old days if you would have the bad guys ride into a village wherever in the world and line the children up and cut the breasts off of their adolescent girls and cut the penises off of their young boys you would have said that was barbaric right yeah i mean absolutely barbaric and that is what we’re doing
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You’re exactly right. WPATH, the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, which is pushing this, literally has a chapter on eunuch gender, which is literally, I think I can say this on radio, castrating people. They talk about kids can have this as a valid identity. It’s not just trans from boy to girl, girl to boy. It’s also non-binary. There’s a clinic in the state that their doctors are known for giving people both sets of genitalia. I’m not aware of them doing that in kids, thankfully. But I’m just saying there’s no end to this because the problem here is taking something basically made up called gender identity. And then, which is in your head, whether it’s true or not, it’s in your head. And unlike any other thing in medicine, we’re permanently, intentionally, physically changing kids’ bodies, starting at the ages of eight to 13 with Colorado Medicaid. So you’re right, it doesn’t make it less barbaric because it’s doctors doing it in white coats. Adults can use their common sense and need to speak up against this.
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Did you just say that Medicaid is paying for this?
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Well, Medicaid, you can go online. Colorado Hickpuff Medicaid pays for puberty blockers at the very onset of puberty. The technical term on their page is Tanner Stage 2. Doctors know that means as soon as puberty starts, which is age 8 to 13. The goal is they want to stop healthy development, which includes not just the sexual organs, but also the brain. And they want to stop that development as soon as possible. And then around 13 to 16, Medicaid pays for cross-sex hormones, which permanently changed the kit.
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Dr. Murrell, I know this is a question. Why? Why? Why? Why? Are they doing this to our children?
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Well, I think that there’s a lot of different answers for the different players. If that makes sense, there’s politicians that feel very good about this. There’s the doctors. Again, it’s called secondary gain. Sometimes we do things that are wrong because it feels good. And sometimes we feel we make a special connection. I’ll be honest with you, Kim, I’ve made this kind of connection with a few adults in the past. It’s been several years where you’re doing something that no one else is willing to so-called help them out with. And you have an intense feeling because you’re the hero and they love you because they can’t get that anywhere else. And the legislators, the teachers, the doctors are feeling this. And at the high level, they… They’re making a decision based on how they’re feeling in the moment, feeling like heroes, getting that, if you want to call it value, you know, projection or whatever. And that’s going to pay off in five or 10 years with some massive regret in probably most of the kids.
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Well, and that’s why we should be able to sue them for this as well. Dr. Travis Murrell, how can people get more information? That hearing is today, 2.30 in the House Judiciary. How can people find out about you and all that you’re doing, your website, all that?
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Kim, thanks so much. I’d love for them to go to coloradodoctors.org and check out. We have a major event with national speakers coming Sunday, April 6th. I’d love for them to follow me on X, that’s Morell, two R’s, two L’s, MDMPH, and they can DM me or follow me and get updates, coloradodoctors.org.
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Okay, Dr. Travis Morell, thank you for keeping us up to speed on this. Greatly appreciate it, and thank you for caring about our children.
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Kim, thanks for your concern.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Coming in on the text line 720-605-0647. Thank you. That word that I could not remember was malpractice. regarding that insurance question. And then another listener said, thank God for doctors like this doctor who speaks up. It takes courage. Another listener asked, why has the term puberty been erased? And great interview, Kim. Wow. Thank you. On the line with me is my friend, Ramey Johnson. She is a former state legislator, a former city councilwoman in Lakewood, and she is my fellow Colorado Union of Taxpayer board member. And it’s Wednesday, so we’re going to talk about a few bills. Ramey Johnson, welcome to the show. Thank you, Kim. Good morning. Well, good to have you. And first of all, we’ve got an amazing team that we work with at the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. And I always like to give their names. And that is Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, you… ramey johnson mary jansen dave evans cory onasorg paula beard and ray beard we had our board meeting uh normally we meet the second mondays of each month but we met uh this last monday night and it’s an amazing group ramey johnson boy is it ever everybody comes to different uh
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uses a different perspective to generally come to the same conclusion. They are dynamite, Kim.
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I have to work to keep up with them. I know. I do, too. And I would really request that people join us. It’s only $25 a year. That’s about $2.08 a month, which is less than a cup of coffee. And for that, you get hours and hours of our volunteer hours that we are taking positions on a number of different bills. We’ve taken positions on, I think, about 213 bills out of the – let me just give everybody a quick update – There’s been 549 bills or resolutions that have been introduced so far down at the State House. This legislative session will be over the second week in May, so we’re a little over halfway through. We’ve taken positions on 212 of those, and it’s really amazing work. Ramey, you’ve got a piece of legislation that you are super concerned about, and you and Mary Jansen have really been able to take a look at this. And I talk about politicians and bureaucrats and interested parties. And with your experience in government, my experience in government, I’ve realized that these PBIs, they can work together. And I think this House Bill 25-1211, tap fees imposed by special districts, This is big government and politicians. To me, it looks like getting in bed together.
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Yes, it is, Kim. But more than that, this one is a gift to the developers. It’s a developer’s dream come true. And basically what this bill is saying is that, and it uses words like requires water boards to provide services. if it has the capacity to do so. Basically, what it’s doing is saying that water districts or water sanitation boards, and at this point, there’s 200 small districts that this particular bill applies to, that the government is going to tell them how much they have to charge taxis.
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Go ahead. Well, and the reason is, and the sponsors on this are Representative Rebecca Stewart, Democrat Representative Sheila Leiter, Democrat and Senator Jeff Bridges. And so what it looks to me, and I like development. I like people being able to have homes to live in. I love the idea of people owning their own home. But as I’ve talked with you about this and others, is this really looks like this is, no pun intended, carrying the water for developers of apartment complexes, probably including, I have this in air quotes, affordable housing, for maybe a specific development that you’re somewhat familiar with.
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Yes. Out here in Jefferson County, the Federal Center is really an area that has, attracts a great deal of attention it was sold to a developer but he needs water and uh the green mountain water board is the closest water board but it’s out of their district and they are trying to get the green mountain water board number one to sell water to them when even though it’s out of their district But what this bill does is that it has proportional fees, if you will, so that if you have a certain amount of bedrooms, if you zero scape low water usage appliance, your cap fee initially for the developer is down. And the problem is that you can change your mind. you can realize that your washing machine with one gallon of water is not getting your clothing clean. You think? Right. And decide to get a dishwasher that actually is efficient but uses some water. But you didn’t pay the tap fee to accommodate for that. But everybody else did. So you are going to use more water at everybody else’s expense that’s in that particular water district. And the concern is about the federal center that this will help it build out. And the interesting thing is, Kim, is that this bill was run last year by Chris Kennedy, who was also the representative to this area, and the bill was killed. He and Kirkmeyer ran it. And now this year, our representative is running it again. It just flies in the face of representing the people that live in this area. And as you say, Kim, people understand there’s going to be growth. But there’s talk of like a 13-foot or, excuse me, 13-story high apartment houses out there. And that is just very egregious for people. And it’s really none of the state’s business to be telling water districts what they have to pay for tap fees. The state should stay in their own lane.
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It’s not their area. Absolutely. Now, I’m trying to see. I was thinking this was going to – okay, let’s see here. I’m on the tap fees. I’m not seeing where it is on the schedule yet as I’m looking at it. So do you happen to know? We just wanted to talk about it. So it’s still out there, I think, in the ether, or do you know? No.
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It just passed yesterday out of the House, so now it’s going to go to the Senate, and I don’t know if it’s on their calendar yet. Okay.
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I don’t see it on the calendar yet. Let’s jump over here. We’ve got just a couple of minutes. This other one that you were super concerned about, and this is – Let’s see. It is House Bill 1297, Health Insurance Affordability Enterprise. Whenever you see the word enterprise, that means they’re trying to take money out from the calculations for the TABOR refunds, your money coming back to you. So Health Insurance Affordability Enterprise update. You’re concerned about this also, Rami Johnson. Yes, I am. It talks about a fee.
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There’s no such thing as fees. That means a tax. The interesting thing about this one is, Kim, is that it authorizes an increase in health insurance affordability fee.
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I know. That is funny, though, isn’t it? Yeah, I know.
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Why don’t they just call it a tax? They can’t, can they? Because we’ve got Tabor. assessed and collected from an insurance carrier that means regular insurance companies by up to one percentage point to implement and administer the health insurance affordability enterprise and in this case what that means kim enterprise is that the state is basically got a commercial company, if you will, and it competes with the private sector.
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That is wrong. By charging fees on the private sector. What could be wrong with this picture, right?
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That’s right. It’s unbelievable to me that this kind of stuff is being written. You know, let me just say one thing real quick, too, when you mentioned how many bills have been… given or introduced every legislator is told initially that they have five bills when they first become a legislator they are violating their own rules
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Yes, they are. And taking a look at the fiscal note on this, it’s a fiscal note of $67 million, so that’s important as well. Ramey Johnson, my fellow Colorado Union of Taxpayer Board member, we’re all volunteers. I so appreciate you giving us our update this week.
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Thank you, Kim. You are great. I’m so happy that you are the president.
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Okay, well. Thank you, Kim. Onward and upward, my friend. Onward and upward. So, again, that’s Rami Johnson. She is a fearless warrior for the people of Colorado. We have these discussions because of our sponsors. And if you’re going to buy a new home, sell your home, or look at a new build, you want to have realtor Karen Levine on your side of the table.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. It is Wednesday, and really pleased to have on the line with me Dr. James Lyons-Weiler, or I like to refer to him as Dr. Jack. And you can find him at Popular Rationalism on Substack. Also, he is the creator of IPAC, which is the Institute for Pure and Applied Knowledge. And during COVID, he realized people need to be informed and educated. And he’s created this amazing educational programs at IPAC-EDU with nationally and internationally known experts in a variety of fields. And at a very affordable price, you can become very informed on things. Dr. Jack, welcome to the show.
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Hi, Kim. Good morning. How are you?
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I am well, and so much is happening in our world. And you and I got to know each other basically during the time of COVID. And I was talking about you the other day with someone, and I said, it’s so amazing to have these conversations. I know what it was. I was presenting out, I think it was at Holyoke. at their Lincoln Day dinner, and I was going through some of our featured guests for the show. And I mentioned you, and I said, this is so amazing. Basically, a New York liberal and a Western Kansas conservative, we have come together because we understand our Constitution and we care about what’s going on in our country. And you and I met during COVID.
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Yeah, I tell people I’m a recovering Democrat.
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Well, there’s a lot of that going around. I was watching one of the programs the other night, and they said the Democrats actually really won this last election because you have Donald Trump, former Democrat, Tulsi Gabbard, former Democrat, RFK Jr., former Democrat or Democrat. And so pretty amazing what’s happening. But you and RFK Jr. are good friends. And watching from afar, it’s really remarkable what’s going on with Trump to his cabinet, but also with RFK Jr. And watching his confirmation hearings was it was something to behold, Dr. Jack.
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Yeah, the internal machinery of Washington is something that not a lot of people get to witness that close. And I think a lot of people were kind of surprised at the vehemence with which guys like Bernie Sanders with a straight face would say things that fly right in the face of his own Huge financial conflicts of interest. And so, yeah, I mean, listen, if we’re going to change the world, we’re going to have to be part of it. And if we’re not there and we’re not part of it, there’s no way we’re going to make America healthy again. So I’m very, very happy to see Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as secretary or Mr. Secretary, as I now call him.
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Well, yes. And we’ve got a lot of work to do on making America healthy again. And pharmaceuticals, these pharmaceutical companies, of course, I think RFK Jr. shot back at Sanders and said, well, how much money are you taking? And so that was a pretty important, I think, interaction between the two. But pharmaceuticals advertise all the time. And There’s adverse effects, and you’ve written this piece, A Catastrophic Confirmation, New Study Links COVID-19 Vaccines to Serious Adverse Events. You and I both have been watching this, and you really know this, but I think that everyday people are starting to really connect the dots as well, but this is a very important piece you’ve written.
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Yeah, thank you. None of it’s surprising. We’ve all seen it before, but there certainly is confirmation now This is a cohort study, which means they followed a particular group of people at the same time. They analyzed 99 million vaccinated individuals across eight countries, and this is the Global Vaccine Data Network. They see across the board elevated neurological, blood, and cardiovascular adverse events. Again, none of it’s surprising, but how… how many times do we have to confirm the risk before something’s done? And then, you know, we have myocarditis and pericarditis, six-fold increased risk of Moderna’s second dose, Pfizer, Moderna’s first and third dose. Those are previously known risks, especially in young males. And, of course, in our own journal, Science, Public Health, Policy, and the Law, we’ve published a couple of studies that show a dose response variation Association, the larger the number of doses of COVID vaccines, the more likely you to have, you know, the thrombocytopenia, pulmonary embolism, cerebral venous sinus thrombosis, all these medical conditions that were it not for multiple dosing, people wouldn’t be having them. And so, you know, they killed the vaccine on risks that were, you know, on par with this. As you recall, there was a adenovirus COVID vaccine that was dropped, the J&J that was dropped, due to risks that were on par with this scale. And so why are we still, you know, why has the FDA not yet moved on it? Well, I can’t say one way or the other what way Mr. Secretary Kennedy is going to go, but You know, there’s a process, no doubt, that has to be followed. It has to be, you know, done formally and not in a way that can just be reversed willy-nilly. I mean, public health policies have to be given their due consideration. And this is another, you know, notch in the belt, a vote in the tally, if you will, that the serious adverse events and the deaths from COVID-19 vaccines are far greater than, for the general population, are far greater than the benefits of the vaccine.
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And Dr. Jack, I think that we all know of young people that have died. And sometimes the question certainly is not asked at a tragic time, but I think in our minds we’re thinking, hmm, I wonder if they got the vaccine. So question, because there are so many people who have gotten the vaccine and I think they’re thinking, ah, what’s going to happen to me? And so were there different, I don’t know if strains is the right word, but is there a certain batches, I guess, of vaccines that were more, had more adverse effects than others? Or was it the same? Or do you know?
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I want to say, yeah, there’s some evidence that there’s some batches that may be problematic, may have been problematic, more problematic. However, you know, there’s only so much our immune systems can take, right? So in April of 2020, I published the world’s first study on the potential disease causing capacity of SARS-CoV-2 proteins, not just the virus, but the proteins. And the spike protein included parts that not only stimulated our immune system so the vaccine would work or so on, or that we would have a reaction to the virus, but also are capable of causing disease in the human body, in humans. And so that capacity exists, period. I would not consider that we’re playing roulette with hot badges or something like that, or bad batches of vaccines. So for the most part, it might be safe or so on. This is no way to approach your consideration of public health when the risk from serious illness, hospitalization, or death from the infection of the virus is practically zero for most people. Certainly young men and youngsters of the age that you mentioned who have died considering following the vaccination. So why take on the risks if there’s no benefit? And now we’re seeing that the risk is substantial and increasing with the number of doses that you take. This is a population-wide effect. These population-wide effects can’t be explained by small proportions of individuals who may have gotten a certain batch.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, so what can people do that have had multiple doses of the vaccine or even one dose? We’ve got about three minutes on this. What would you recommend that people do?
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I can’t recommend anything because I’m not a medical doctor. But what I can say is, from a scientific standpoint, science clearly shows that if we have already had COVID, that is the disease, you’ve tested positive for the virus, and you believe you’ve had the virus tested, You have what’s called multi-epitope immunity. You have multiple different proteins from the virus that have contributed to antibodies that allow you to fight off the COVID virus handily. There’s another problem here that I want to bring up just quickly in that people who get the COVID vaccine are probably also getting the influenza vaccine. An influenza vaccine contains thimerosal, which is known to cause immune suppression. And the unpopular rationalism that Substack.com just this morning I pushed out an article that calls for the banning of dimerisol in all vaccines. It’s a form of mercury that’s a preservative. It’s not for health effects. So that pharmaceutical companies can use multidose vials and save money. Now, this post that’s out there is designed for you to share with your elected representatives at the state level and at the federal level. We need to eliminate dimerisol from influenza vaccines to protect public health.
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Wow. Okay. And again, Popular Rationalism at Substack. I’m talking with Dr. James Lyons-Weiler. We’re going to go to break. When we come back, we’re going to continue the discussion. All this happens because of our sponsors. And be sure, regarding mortgages, to reach out to Lorne Levy. There may be some movements in interest rates. If there is and they move down, you may want to pounce on a lower rate, but you won’t know unless you reach out to Lorne Levy.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Do check out the USMC Memorial Foundation as they are raising money for the remodel of the official Marine Memorial. It’s right here in Colorado at the corner of 6th and Colfax in Golden. And we’re coming into Mother’s Day, Father’s Day. A great gift would be to buy a brick to honor your loved one’s military service, which will be on one of their pathways of service. And you’ll receive a beautiful certificate as the gift. And certainly, I gave that to my father. I bought a brick for my father for his service. And he’s since passed on, but it was one of the best gifts I’ve ever given him. So reach out to to usmcmemorialfoundation.org to make that happen. Dr. James Weiler is on the line with me. You can find him at Substack at Popular Rationalism. He is the founder of IPAC, the Institute for Pure and Applied Knowledge. And we’ll talk with him a little bit about what’s going on on the educational side there. Before we do that, though, Dr. Jack, one of our listeners texted this regarding our conversation on the COVID jab. And she said, it’s not a vaccine at all. It simply damages people’s immune system. What would you say to that?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, listen, we can argue semantics and definitions. I don’t mean to disregard people’s concerns about saying that it’s not a vaccine. But, you know, from the very real perspective, if we’re going to use the machinery of public health, That is for back the vaccine committees, et cetera. If we’re going to use the FDA, it’s currently classified as a biologic. It’s classified as a vaccine. We don’t have to win the argument about what it is to actually pull it from the market.
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Got it. Okay. I guess I wasn’t going to ask you this, but Fauci, I’ve seen different headlines regarding Fauci being held accountable for all that happened during this whole COVID thing. What’s your thoughts on that, Dr. Jack?
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Long overdue. COVID wasn’t his first rodeo with respect to playing fast and loose with all of our health and our rights. Somewhere along the way, he seems to have forgotten the U.S. Constitution and He and his spouse, Christine Grady, actually published a paper long ago now, I think it was maybe all the way back in 1986, that said that of two people in the room discussing whether a medical procedure should be accepted by a patient or not, the person that knows more is the doctor. So the person that has the final say on informed consent, they believed, should be the doctor. Wow. Which is a complete reversal. of decades and decades of informed consent and human rights and protection against human subjects experimentation going all the way back to Nuremberg. So they have tried to write themselves for decades. They wrote themselves permission slips that are not based on legislation. And I think, you know, our legislators were partly asleep and part culpable in particular if they have taken money from pharmaceutical companies.
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Wow, this is going to be super interesting. Next thing, IPAC-EDU. You’ve got your spring courses available, and a number of my friends and I have taken some of the courses, and they are super educational. So just highlight some of the things that you’d like people to know about IPAC-EDU and these spring courses. Well, thanks for bringing it up.
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We actually have a very special upcoming course. It’s only six weeks. This course… will focus on helping people understand dynamics in society. So using social sciences to control populations is something that has been done for a long time in Western civilization. And what this mega course is going to help people understand is how institutions, how governments, how very wealthy people and influential people can choose particular leverage points to manipulate populations, not just through disinformation and propaganda, but through many, many different mechanisms that have multiplicative and exponential force behind them. and how to identify whether a factor is additive or multiplicative or exponential, and include that in part of your awareness of what you’re seeing coming at you from the media, coming at you in public health messaging, coming at you when it comes time to ramping up for warfare, for instance. Are we really on board with really understanding the factors and how they interact? This course is going to be a very interesting one. It’s co-taught by Dr. Tori Alexander, Brad Miller, and myself. And it’s going to be six weeks. We’re going to start at the end of this month. And the time of day is to be determined. We want to poll the people who sign up for it. So if you want to know how to navigate power structures in your own life better, if you want to look at historical examples of people choosing particular activities to engage in to control the outcome of social dynamics, We’re going to do this for over six weeks or so, and the title of the course is Power and Social Change.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. I don’t know that I, as I’m looking, I don’t, I’m not sure I see that right there on that. Has that been added into the course selections yet, or is that?
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Yeah, if you just click on, if you just click on text-only listings or browse course or course listings, it’s there. Just scroll down, and there are three pages of the courses, so if you want to take courses with us, make sure you check out all the pages.
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Okay, and what’s the name of it again?
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Power and social change.
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Wow. Okay, that’s an important one. And that website is ipac-edu.org, ipac-edu.org. Dr. Jack, next question, bird flu. That seems like they’ve tried to really ramp that up, scare people about it. The FDA has dictated killing millions of chickens. Egg prices skyrocketed. What’s your thoughts on bird flu? Should people be as terrified as it seems like some have tried to make us be?
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I want to take people back to COVID for a moment and say, remember the PCR tests that were done again in April and March of 2020 when they first started using PCR tests. I published extensively on how the nature of how they used the PCR tests, how they were constructed, would lead to many, many false positives among the positive outcomes. So if you tested positive, you most likely probably didn’t have COVID. And that’s actually been borne out to be true in the scientific literature. Well, I want to take people back to monkeypox as well. If you remember the monkeypox scare, you have to ask yourself, why did that go away? Well, that went away because the PCR tests for monkeypox were formulated correctly. They actually knew where zero was when they calibrated the tests. Well, initially, the flu vaccine, I wasn’t worried about, sorry, the bird flu. I was not worried about bird flu because the tests that were commercially available for use for bird flu, they actually were calibrated appropriately. But now there’s a spate of tests that are out there. They’re PCR-based. You really have to pass legislation at the state level to make sure that 1% or 2% or 3% of cases are actually sequenced, both in animals to save your agriculture and in people should they start being said to be circulating in people. The time that this would ramp up would be during regular flu season, and people would be tested for bird flu with these PCR tests. And they would say, oh, you’re positive, but you’re not really positive. You might have bacterial pneumonia. In fact, most people who died from COVID on ventilators, 95% of them, per the New York Times, did not die from COVID virus, SARS-CoV-2 virus. They died from bacterial pneumonia or sepsis. So it’s very important that you challenge the diagnostic criteria for H5N1 bird flu and With your legislators, call them today and ask them to look into whether or not there’s a false positive rate with the PCR test in animals so you can stop the culling, and then in humans so we can stop people from getting misdiagnosed and put into hospitals. When they put you in a hospital, remember, there’s a standing rule right now, federal standing law, sorry, regulation. If you’re in the hospital and you’re unconscious and you’re unattended, Someone can vaccinate you with the influenza vaccine, just the regular influenza vaccine, assuming that you’re not vaccinated without even asking your permission. So if you want to avoid the immune suppression of thimerosal that would then lead to complications due to any whatever respiratory infection you actually have, make sure that you put it on your record and write it on your arm, no thimerosal, no vaccine when you’re there. Because if you’re under in the hospital, or have a patient advocate that stays with you. If you’re in the hospital, the standing rule is to vaccinate everybody, assuming that they’re not vaccinated.
SPEAKER 12 :
That’s terrifying. That is absolutely terrifying to me, Dr. Jack, that you could be unconscious in a hospital.
SPEAKER 06 :
I want to motivate people to know the facts, understand the situation. these days in 2025 it is reckless and irresponsible not to have a patient advocate with you when you’re in the hospital especially not just because of this issue but especially if there’s a possibility that you might be there overnight i’m not trying to terrify anybody i’m just saying be empowered to take responsibility question everything and if they start giving you a hard time about asking for sufficient information to provide yourself the opportunity to accept or refuse a medical condition under the rules of informed consent call your lawyer tell them that you’re going to call your lawyer and you have the lawyer issue a letter to the hospital at that time to cease and desist the harassment of the patient and please provide informed consent they have to ask first in writing Please provide full, free, prior, informed consent.
SPEAKER 12 :
Wow. Dr. Jack, one quick question then, or last question, and that is, optimistic for the future?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I think the wheels of change are not fast enough for some, and at the same time, there’s whiplash. Every time you turn around, there’s this massive programmatic change happening at the federal level. I don’t know whether to be optimistic or just remain realistic. I think optimism is an investment that may have some return. I know it makes us feel like we can get on with our day and focus on other things, but it’s not time to be terrified, but it is time to be vigilant, and in some cases hypervigilant when it comes to your health of your children, the health of yourself, the health of your elderly. It’s time to remain engaged. Do not disengage and think just because Robert F. Kennedy Jr., is stationed as Secretary of HHS that we have it all under control. By no means do we have it all under control. We have independent actors. We have hospital administrators. We have people who are desperate now because their federal money is getting cut. Just watch your back.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. Okay. Dr. Jack, fascinating, and thank you. And we’ll talk to you next month and keep up the great work. And, again, check out IPAC-EDU.org. Thank you, Dr. Jack.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you. We’ll talk to you soon. Keep up the good work, Kim.
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Number two, able or tending to cause annoyance, trouble, or minor injury. Or three, irresponsibly playful. There’s nothing irresponsibly playful about some of this legislation down at the statehouse. It is downright mischievous. It is harmful. and is causing injury. And so we’ll talk again. We highlighted in the first hour three bills that you need to have on your radar. And the first one, Dr. Travis Morrell called in today, is regarding this bill. It is, let me get to it here, it is Senate Bill 129, and it is Legally Protected Healthcare Activity Protections. And the two things that they’re protecting is abortion and mutilating our children, that transgender stuff. And the sponsors on that are Lisa Cutter, Senator, Senator Faith Winter, Representative Junie Joseph, and Representative Karen McCormick. It’s going to be heard today in the House Judiciary Committee at 2.30. And so he wanted to make sure that you had that on your radar. Next one, Ramey Johnson, my fellow cut board member. We talked a bit about this. This is, let’s see, is House Bill 25-1211, tap fees imposed by special districts. And she had two words that she mentioned, required and proportional. Those are not the proper role of government. State government needs to stay out of these water tap fees. This is the prime sponsors, Representative Rebecca Stewart, Representative Sheila Leiter, Senator Jeff Bridges. They are all carrying the water, no pun intended, for special interest, in particular developers that want to develop the water. Federal Center out there in Lakewood. And again, big government, big business. They like each other because they can get in bed with each other and they can give themselves special privileges. So big no by cut on House Bill 25-1211. And then, let’s see, the last one was 1297. And this is health insurance affordable enterprise update. I love this. When Ramey said that they had in the word that they wanted to make health care more affordable by charging a fee, what’s wrong with that picture? And once again, that is big government, PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties getting in bed together. And ultimately what happens is everyday people, the taxpayer, is getting fleeced. And, of course, on the federal level with Doge, we’re seeing how we have been getting fleeced on a pretty regular basis we need to get government back in its proper role when that happens you have more money in your pocket and so do check out coloradotaxpayer.org our quote of the day is from alexander the great he was born in 356 bc was died in 323 bc He had campaigns, military campaigns throughout Western Asia, Central Asia, South Asia, and Egypt. By the age of 30, he created one of the largest empires in history, stretching from Greece to Northwest India. He said this, I’m not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep. I’m afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion. And I think George Washington used that quote as well. And of course, our founders were so well-read regarding our history. Let’s see. Tomorrow, I’m going to be down at the Center for American Values, and they’re going to have a great On Values presentation. Dr. Walt Larimore, who is the author of At First Light, and it’s a book about his father, who’s a World War II hero. Amazing story. I interviewed Dr. Larimore for our America’s Veterans Story Show, and so excited to meet him in person tomorrow down at the Center for American Values. And from the south metro area, it’s only about an hour and a half, down to the center, which is located on the Riverwalk there in Pueblo. Let them know that you’re coming. That website is AmericanValueCenter.org. But it doesn’t cost anything, and it’s going to be very special. And the center is really a very special place. While you’re there, you’ll see the Portraits of Valor, which are on the walls there honoring many of our Medal of Honor recipients. So we’d love to have you join us because it’s going to be very, very special. Regarding headlines, first of all, this is absolutely amazing. I remember the old days when you had the module that would plop down in the water with the astronauts on board, or in this case, two astronauts, two cosmonauts. It dropped down into the Gulf of America. And after 250-plus days, our astronauts were supposed to be there for eight days, and the old Biden-Harris administration just let them hang out there. Well, Elon Musk and company brought them home. And so pretty amazing. Yesterday, congratulations that they’re home safely. Congratulations to Elon Musk and company. And I’m sure the radical activists, extremist lefts are going crazy that they were able to bring them home safely. One other thing I did want to mention regarding Tina Peters, as you know, she’s the former Mesa County clerk and recorder who was convicted on several felonies and misdemeanors. well and I talked with someone very close to her yesterday and the judge in that case so Tina had a real dilemma and the dilemma was to follow federal law or follow state policies and procedures here in Colorado so she had this real dilemma because federal law says that county clerks and recorders are supposed to preserve election records for 24 months. This Jenna Griswold and company, Colorado Secretary of State, were coming in to do a trusted build on the vote tabulating machines. And Tina had asked and ascertained that very possibly election records might disappear or be overwritten. So what she did is she took an image and had to get access to that image. That’s what they really got her on was there was policies and procedures that would make it difficult for our county clerks to do that. And so she but she knew she needed to keep these records. And so she got these images. And yes, there are our experts, technology experts have said, yes, there were records that were overwritten and disappeared. The judge in that case with her was. would not let that information be introduced into that trial. My friends, do you see that there might be something wrong with that? And so if you want to help her right now, I would say go to her website. I think it’s like Tina Peters US. You can just do a web search on that. I will get that for you. And make a contribution. so that as she can access that money, they can get it over to her so she can buy some things at the commissary. Apparently the food is terrible, and at least at the commissary she can buy some tuna fish or some canned chicken, which I guess is expensive. It’s like $8 a can or whatever, but you can help her by doing that. Let me get that website for you, and I might have that when we come back. Yeah, let me see. I’ll get that for you so that you can make that contribution. But she really is a, I would say, here you go. It’s tinapeters.us. And get some bucks over there to her instead of maybe having that expensive cup of coffee. Get that over to Tina Peters so that she can get some additional food there at the Larimer County Jail where she is currently being held. As a prisoner, it’s important that we have these discussions and that we have them because of our sponsors. The Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team can help you with your insurance coverage on your car, your boat, your auto, and don’t forget renter’s coverage. Give them a call at 303-795-8855. If you bundle that together, you might be able to save some money.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Check out the USMC Memorial Foundation. That website is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And let me just check and see if you can still make a contribution for Paula Sarles and her Celebrate the Climb. Nope, looks like it’s gone. So you can just make a donation to the USMC Memorial by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. It’s important that you do so, so that we honor those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for for our freedom that website again is usmcmemorialfoundation.org and thank you to the harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show it is because of these great sponsors that our independent voice is on an independent station talking with uh with independent people about important issues one of those independent persons is on the line with me and that’s a sixth generation farmer and rancher trent loose trent loose welcome to the show i am independent people You are independent people. Hey, have you put together your March Madness bracket yet?
SPEAKER 07 :
I don’t even know what you’re talking about. You’re speaking Greek to me.
SPEAKER 12 :
The basketball, college basketball in your bracket. Who’s going to win the college basketball championship?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, there will be people in my house do that, but I will not be one of those people. You see, that’s what the people who conform do. I’m independent. I don’t do what other people do.
SPEAKER 12 :
This is true. Well, I did mine. I love this. And so I did mine last night. Not very scientific, so we’ll see what happens. But there’s some really serious stuff going on out there, Trent Luce. First of all, last Friday I read Lee Zeldin, who is the administrator of the EPA, the Environmental Protection Agency, and he said that they are going to drive a dagger around through the Green New Deal, which I am very pleased about. And this is a great time to mention our documentary, A Climate Conversation, which is the project of Walt Johnson. You can watch it for free at aclimateconversation.com. We did a bunch of podcasts, and you were one of our guests, which we had all kinds of people that watched that particular podcast. But what do you think about this, Lee Zeldin driving the dagger through the Green New Deal?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I’ve read his entire report, including the first word of everything that they say they’re going to do, and it says reconsideration. And at this moment, Kim, I’m going to say this is just more rhetoric coming out of this Trump team with no follow through, because what’s happening on the ground is that it’s full steam ahead. You know, Kelly told me we have within 15 miles of our house, a fully subsidized wind development project that’s planned. We still have people in Colorado dealing with the transmission lines and the land grab that’s taking place. I’m still fighting the CO2 pipelines. We make no progress whatsoever. No discussion of removing 45Z, 45Q, those tax credits from 2008 that are causing all of this problem. I hope that next week we get on here and you say, well, Trent, see, you’re wrong. Here’s an action that’s being taken. It’s all rhetoric at this moment.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, well, I want to get on that because we want action, not just words. But at least we’ve got the right words to begin with, and so we’re going to stay tuned on that. What can we do here in Colorado right now regarding those transmission lines?
SPEAKER 07 :
Just get more people engaged. Right now we have champions for the cause, but the champions need a support crew. It happens when you get enough people engaged. showing up, being loud, and devoting the time. And I continue to reference it, but that’s what we did in South Dakota and why it was so effective. But, Kim, there’s a couple of things that we’ve got to consider here. We, in the last 30 days, have now passed the capacity for wind and solar to be greater than that of coal generation electricity. We’re at 16% of the United States’ electric supply coming from a coal plant. 16 we have a thousand years worth of coal left and we’re now to the point and here’s the problem you can’t just put a dagger in the whole concept of the new green deal and not have the infrastructure to rebuild what was dismantled because when they shut down these coal-fired power plants they’re not going to go back in there and turn them on yeah it’s not just a switch it takes no it takes a commitment and an investment and for the most part like delta utah i was in a delta utah place They shut that one down, and they completely gutted it. They cannot go back to putting coal in there without a significant investment, which I don’t see happening at this point in time.
SPEAKER 12 :
So this is something that, it’s really, it’s kind of like a sabotage, if you will. Shutting down these plants and not only dismantling them, but trying to tear some of them down. For example, those dams up there in Northern California. Plymouth River. Yeah, just destroying them. So this agenda is, it’s destructive. What’s the opposite of destruction? It’s creation. They’re all about destroying things.
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely. And those dams were built by the farmers in the Klamath River Basin 100 years ago. And for 100 years, those dams have been providing irrigation and they’ve been providing electricity. And you just your word is perfect. They destroyed the destruction. Will it cripple the energy supply and cripple the food supply? I also found some interesting statistics. Speaking of energy. And the farm to fork scenario. What do you think? I always have one question for you to put you on the spot. And you can put me on the spot at any time, you know, feel free. In the farm-to-fork sector of food production and distribution and consumption, what do you think is the most energy intense? And I’ll give you a little clue. It requires five quadrillion, whatever that is, BT use of energy to make this happen.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. I’ll tell you what’s going through my mind. First of all, I’m thinking production. I’m thinking the equipment. I’m thinking, no, that might not be it. I’m thinking maybe transportation. No.
SPEAKER 07 :
That’s 16%. Fertilizer? Fertilizer? That’s 21%. Fertilizer is included in production.
SPEAKER 12 :
21% production, 16% transportation.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I’m sorry, 16% is the actual processing of taking the food and converting it into food. But both of those pale in comparison to where we had the greatest toll at 49% of the energy consumed in the farm-to-fork system.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, gosh. What else is there?
SPEAKER 07 :
See, that’s perfect because I think most people just walk into a grocery store and they don’t think about the massive amount of energy required to freeze and keep food at a refrigerated level so that it’s safe to consume. So energy in storage and restaurants and all of the things that we do aside from The production and the production being on the farm, and that includes diesel. That’s not just electricity. This is total energy BTUs, five quadrillion energy BTUs a year to basically preserve our food supply so that we can eat it when we want.
SPEAKER 12 :
And we are so blessed with doing that. Refrigeration really changed things. And we’re going to talk a little bit, maybe when we come back, regarding these dust storms. But I grew up in western Kansas, the 30s. I heard stories from my grandparents regarding the dust storms there. And you mentioned… preserving food. My grandfather, he was really a nice man, really, my maternal grandfather, and great sense of humor. He was a butcher. He had a great little grocery store with a partner. But out on the farm during the 30s, they had purchased a beef, or maybe they had a beef, and they had canned it. And they put it down in their cellar, and they’d gone to town, And when they came back, somebody had come and stolen all of that beef that they had canned. My grandfather said he thinks that he probably knew who did it. And he said, I think maybe they needed the food more than they did. But he said they kind of went hungry that particular season. But that was really before refrigeration.
SPEAKER 07 :
My mother-in-law still cans beef, and she’ll be pulling canned beef out of the cellar from time to time. You could go pay $1,000 for a steak anywhere you want, even if it’s at Lavaca Meats. And I want to tell you what, that canned beef that comes out of that cellar is the most tender, amazing consumption you can ever have. And you’re right. It was stored without refrigeration, and if we just take food storage and how we can just have it available out of a refrigerator, we take that for granted so much.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, we do take it for granted, and that’s one of the things that Jim May over at Lavaca Meat has said is that their only preservative is the freezer. So they immediately freeze their beef, and then when you buy it, take it home, you put it in cold water, and it thaws pretty quickly. And it really is special. Beef is such a great protein source for your diet. And, of course, a real treat would be to get some hamburger steaks from Lavaca Meat Company.
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SPEAKER 03 :
I miss me.
SPEAKER 12 :
And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, shouldn’t have to force people to do it. It is Wednesday. That means it’s a Trent Luce Wednesday. Trent is a sixth-generation farmer and rancher from Nebraska. which is a neighboring state. I grew up in western Kansas. And we were talking a little bit about dust storms back in the 30s, Trent Luce, and dust storms are a reality right now. And not far from my hometown last Friday afternoon, there was a multi-car pileup, over 70 vehicles. Eight people died. Fifty-five people were injured. out on I-70 near my hometown of Goodland. This is tragic. Apparently there was a dust storm that moved through quickly, and it’s dry out on the eastern plains of Colorado, western plains of Colorado, Nebraska. It’s dry out there. Winds were significant. Does soil health have something to do with this? What do you think about this?
SPEAKER 07 :
So it’s not fair to compare it to the Dust Bowl because this is the bad time of year for dust storms because farmers are beginning to put anhydrous on. They’re beginning to do some farm work, and it creates volatility, and the soil is there. It’s just been freshly worked, and when you get high winds, you get a dust storm. Think about the Dust Bowl. That lasted seven years. Seven years people were dealing with this type of activity. That was about soil health. This is just about extreme weather that comes in for one given week. You know, today we’ve got a big winter blast. I-80 is closed right now. Many highways are closed. You should not be out traveling at all. It’s just a function of timing. And when you have the freshly… Tilled soil without plant growth coming out. And that’s the reason we put cover crops in. I do have to just say this. I saw a post this morning from a guy I know who said that he saw a cover crop that had been planted. And this is a major problem with our United States Department of Agriculture. We have this whole, and it comes back to our conversation about the new green deal. And this is happening today. And I saw it myself. I think you and I talked about this when I came home from Fargo in December. I saw moldboard plowing. Who does moldboard plowing? Well, we went away from moldboard plowing when I was a kid. And now the USDA, in order to get a farmer into a program, is asking them to do severe tillage like a moldboard plow. And the post I saw this morning was my neighbor had a great cover crop, and he went out there yesterday and moldboard plowed it. What is wrong with this? I’ll tell you why he did it. In order to get into this carbon smart program by the USDA, you have to take your carbon, no matter what you built it to be in the last 20 years or 30 years, you’ve got to take it to zero so that they can show that there’s a market improvement in your carbon retention.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, that contributes to dust storms in a major kind of way. And so it’s a stupidity of policies that cause most of these problems.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, and our producers are getting so squeezed. I was out in Holyoke for the Lincoln Day event for Phillips County. And our farmers are getting so squeezed with input costs, although we’re starting to see prices of some of that stuff come down. But input costs… transportation costs, the risks of being a farmer. And then you mentioned incentives or to get into the program. They look at something. They’re going to get some cash. It could be a conservation easement. It could be putting a wind turbine on their property. And they’re getting so squeezed that they are looking for ways to create revenue, property taxes, this big one that you and I want to work on, They’re getting so squeezed that they are getting into these programs because it can help their cash flow.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Speaking of which, we haven’t heard from Wyatt and Wyoming for quite some time, but I’m doing a series on property tax solutions. And I’m doing that this week on all of my broadcasting. And my guest today on Trend on the Loose is a senator from Wyoming. And they just put in place, he proposed a 50 percent cut to property taxes at a residential level, not on farms and ranches, but at a residential level. And so that’s going to be a significant assistance to people in Wyoming who I was told by another state senator that residential property tax in the last eight years had gone up 200 percent in the state of Wyoming. We cannot continue to tax the American public at this rate. And I’m just using Wyoming as an example because Colorado’s got the same problems. In fact, today my guest is going to be from Kansas that I’m interviewing for tomorrow. This property tax is a plan to eliminate ownership of property, period.
SPEAKER 12 :
It is. It is. You and I have figured that out. And property… is inherent in the American idea. The founders, they actually, I think they kicked around the idea, the ownership of property versus the term of pursuit of happiness in the Declaration. Of course, they had a conundrum at that time because we had slavery, which was where one man was property of another. So I think those discussions would have been really, really important. They realized owning property was important, but yet owning another individual, that doesn’t fit with this idea that all men are created equal with each of us with these rights from God, life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. But they realized if people could keep most of the fruits of their labor, then, well, what could happen? I don’t think that they realized what could happen, but America happened.
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
SPEAKER 07 :
Did you see that there’s a member of parliament in France that has been forced floating about that because of what’s happening in the United States, they should come and take the Statue of Liberty back.
SPEAKER 08 :
I saw that.
SPEAKER 07 :
So that afforded me the time to go look at the history of the Statue of Liberty, because I think everybody knows that France gave us the Statue of Liberty because we were this basket of freedom, right? Well, there’s much more to it. In fact, our founding fathers copied the Persian letters of a French philosopher in 1721. I can’t even say these French names. But the whole concept came about from France to begin with. And then a jurist who was a professor of law in a university said, He so loved what the United States had done. And then it was 1865 at the end of the Civil War and the freedom of the slaves that motivated them to put together the Statue of Liberty and deliver it to ultimately Ellis Island and 29 crates and assemble it in New York City. Well, outside of New York City. It’s an incredible story that I only knew a fraction of. I don’t think they’re going to come take it back.
SPEAKER 12 :
yeah um the inscription on the statue of liberty i’ve always thought because those that want to have illegal immigration sometimes have quoted what’s written on the bottom of the statue of liberty and uh as you’re right it was a gift from france let me get over here and It says, oh, here, here. Oh, come on, come on. Of course, I have all this, and now I can’t get to.
SPEAKER 07 :
I did not include that in my column, which I should have, but I didn’t know French, so you’re about to fix that.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, this is, it’s along, give us your, hold on here. They should have this right. Give us your, let me see if that brings it up here. Let’s see. Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free. But those that want to promote illegal immigration, they just take that first part. Give me your tired and your poor, your huddled masses. That’s the next part that I think is so important. Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, not to come here for free stuff and not here to hurt us, but people that are coming here for freedom. And I think that’s really important that we make that distinction.
SPEAKER 07 :
One hundred percent. I agree. And there’s two more sentences which are interesting. But that whole Statue of Liberty, I’m glad that guy did that because, again, it just gave me an opportunity to go search that a little more and have a better understanding of why it’s there.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. And it says the quote comes from Emma Lazarus’ sonnet, New Colossus. She wrote for a fundraiser auction to raise money for the pedestal upon which the Statue of Liberty now sits. And I’ve not, I used to go to New York a lot. I never went out to the Statue of Liberty. Have you ever gone out there?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I’ve not been to the statue itself.
SPEAKER 12 :
And so anyway, yes, I saw that headline that there is a French parliamentarian that says, oh, that we should take it back. And again, a radical activist leftist, I would say on that. Let’s see, we’ve got just a few more minutes left in this particular segment. And just let’s just revisit a little bit more about soil health and glyphosates. You had mentioned that and I talked to a farmer regarding this whole John Deere thing where they. are are buttoning up all the technology it is a real problem is there any new developments on that and when i say soil health there’s the glyphosate there’s um the fertilizers and things that can and herbicides and pesticides that can be be used by farmers or you mentioned that john deer might be over here in ai ai trying to zing weeds so what’s the latest on all that
SPEAKER 07 :
There’s really nothing that has developed since you and I talked about it other than the state of Nebraska does have LB 525, which my friend Kevin Kinney, who you had on one week while I took a sabbatical, he’s been asked to serve on a committee to look at that. And that’s 100% about John Deere or any other equipment manufacturer that wants to monopolize the data. and not allow the farmer to use that data. This is going to really heat up and I predict in the next six months you’re going to hear more discussion about this nationwide than you’ve ever heard before. Because it’s going to spill over not into only farm equipment. You just think about all the data that you contribute to somebody’s database every single day. And do you have access to that? Do you know who has access to what you’ve generated for them? I think that this is going to open the door to a lot of discussions about privacy and what it is that we’re willing to give up. Well, and by the way, one little quick note, which I found interesting that I just thought of on the Statue of Liberty, that base that you mentioned, that was funded by the United States and 120,000 individuals donated $100,000 to to build that base that the Statue of Liberty was put on. Now, in today’s world where we talk about trillions, $100,000 seems like nothing. Let’s think about 1867. The nation is broke because we literally went broke during the Civil War, and people were still willing to contribute $100,000 to put a base in place because the French were sending us the Statue of Liberty. I think that’s pretty incredible.
SPEAKER 12 :
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SPEAKER 03 :
It’s a great day to be alive.
SPEAKER 12 :
It is a great day to be alive, that is for sure. And thank you for joining us. Before we get back into it, I wanted to mention that I will be down and Teresa is going to go with me, who is our great new partnership liaison. She and I are headed down to the Center for American Values for their On Values presentation tomorrow evening. afternoon by Dr. Walt Larimore regarding his book At First Light. And it’s about his father, World War II hero, Phil Larimore, and all that he did. You will not want to miss it. If you’re going to attend, just let them know. It doesn’t cost anything, but just let them know. Trent Luce is on the line, sixth generation farmer and rancher. We’ve got Gammy on the line. She wants to make some comments. Before we do that, though, on the text line, I know you can agree with this. This is from Lynn. He says, all property taxes need to be abolished. I totally agree with him on that. And so we’ve got to go to work on that, Trent.
SPEAKER 07 :
There’s going to be no argument. We need solutions on how to make it happen.
SPEAKER 12 :
And you said that you’re featuring those. How can people find that this week, Trent Luce?
SPEAKER 07 :
I’m going to put them all on my Substack, so I think that’s the simplest thing is trentlose.substack.com.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. Next thing, and this is from another listener, said the plaque that was added to the Statue of Liberty was well after it was erected. The poem was written by a devout Marxist. It’s being used to reinforce today’s Marxist evil assertions. That’s why, gosh, I didn’t realize that, but Marxism doesn’t, doesn’t support people that yearn to be free. But many times what we can see is those with extreme agendas use the language that people really care about. So your comments on that?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I think that your comment there is absolutely right, and I do not dispute this text in any way, shape, or form, but I did not know that.
SPEAKER 12 :
OK, I did not know that either. And then a longer text. And maybe we can talk about it next week. But this listener said they’ve been praying for farmers to be able to fix their own tractors ever since the last time you were on to talk about that. And she said she ran into a woman who knows a farmer. The reason they changed this is because people would fix their machines and then they would take it in and want them to fix it under warranty. Well, that’s probably the thing that the manufacturers are using as the reason to prevent people from doing this, yes?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. It’s much more complicated, but we’ll just go with yes.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. And we’ll continue the discussion on that.
SPEAKER 07 :
1883, by the way. 1883 was the— Is when Emma Lazarus wrote the poem that is ultimately on the— Statue of Liberty.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. Okay. We can do more research on that. Gammy’s on the line.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think that deserves some further discussion in depth.
SPEAKER 12 :
Let me make a note on that, Trent Luce. I’ll put Statue of Liberty so I don’t forget because there’s so many things coming at us. Gammy’s on the line. Gammy, what is on your radar? You’ve got two minutes.
SPEAKER 09 :
Good morning. Don’t start my clock while I promote Trent Luce for just a minute.
SPEAKER 07 :
You’ve got two minutes, Gammy, no matter what you talk about.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, poo, poo, poo. Listen up. I listen to your show every morning at 5 to 6 or, you know, unless I crash. My concern is that what you have spelled out, Trent, and Kim, really both of you, this business of local, like our commissioners and city councils can actually impact the property taxes. They can do things to override even the state. But you have nailed something. I’ve started including the secretary of in energy and the health and human services federal in all my letters that I send to the whole legislature, to the commissioners, the city council, what the people have got to do to stop the land grab, to stop the destruction of the food and the farmers, and to stop the absolute violation, mutilation, sterilization of our kids is they have got to get so local They’ve got to get more involved, go to the schools, demand to see the curricula, the agenda, and they have to shut down the huge impact that this tiny, small group of influencing justice people for LGBTQ trans is levying on our children. It’s not the trans human beings, children, youth that are the criminals. It is the professional fake doctors, fake counselors, And I say fake because they’re not using science. They’re using ideology, which is Marxism, justice, war, destruction of our culture as a humanity. And we have to shut down these special interests and say we’re paying billions of dollars for this tiny, small ideology. Well, it’s gotten bigger, but it’s nothing compared to the majority of human beings. But nobody is paying attention to what is being done in the schools.
SPEAKER 12 :
So, Gammy, you are shedding such great light on that. I thank you for your two minutes on this. This is like Liberty Toastmasters on Table Topics. You have two minutes, and you can actually accomplish a lot in two minutes, which Gammy does. And she is fearless. She is stepping up to the plate and doing that exactly. She is writing about this. and contacting people but you can accomplish a lot in two minutes which is what she did and you look at a country song Trent Luce and a lot can happen within two to three minutes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I was thinking about the Constitution telling us to be a dutiful citizen, and I think in all the new constitutions, when printed, they should just put a picture of Gammy right there.
SPEAKER 12 :
I think that that is true. And you and I haven’t talked a whole lot about this whole transgender agenda on our children, but Colorado is the— sanctuary state if you will on all of this really terrible stuff on our children we had in the first hour dr travis morell there is a a bill down at the state house today that he wanted people to um testify on and now i have all of these different things open here and um I don’t have the exact bill number here right now. Let me get it to you. Hold on just a second. I’ve got it. It is Senate Bill 25-129. We’ve got just a few minutes left. I don’t think we’ve really had a conversation about this whole transgender thing, which is something that GAMI is truly watching on a regular basis, Trent.
SPEAKER 07 :
I know, and I think about it a lot, and when I hear stories about what is being done to kids, not only in the transgender, but just the psychological aspects. I think that there’s nothing more important, and I should jump on that, and then some land grab issue happens. And I think that’s a lot of what we’re dealing with on this hamster wheel, is that you have so many issues that could be top one priority. Fortunately, we have people like Amy that just don’t let it go and keep it on the top of our mind. But you don’t need to be much of a history buff. Just read a bit of the Bible and you know that child sacrifice was around 2000 years ago. Nothing has changed. We just need to be the change agent and protect these kids.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, and now I don’t have the bill number here in front of me, but as president of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, I’m watching all this legislation. There’s some legislation down at the statehouse that is going to outlaw being able to transfer a puppy or a kitten from one person to another in a public area. like a parking lot or something like that, because I’m not sure exactly why, but I can’t believe that there’s legislation in Colorado that’s so concerned about puppies and kittens, but yet there’s also initiative, an amendment that was passed by the people of Colorado, but also legislation that says that you can abort a baby up until the time of birth in Colorado, which is child sacrifice, but yet so concerned about a puppy or a kitten. So we’ve got about three minutes. Your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, to be honest, this is when I, as a supporter of Donald Trump in his first term, started questioning what he was really up to because he signed a federal animal rights legislation that actually put more penalty into what you do to a convicted puppy killer or puppy neglecter or anything else than they do a kid. And when you start putting preferential treatment over animals to human beings, you got to question what’s really going on. And that is almost a state by state initiative as well. And what that bill did was it made it a federal crime to be convicted of abusing, neglecting or mistreating these animals. I’m not endorsing mistreating animals. But at the same time, I’ve seen judges make rulings like, well, you obviously didn’t care for these horses because you put used blankets on them, not new blankets. That happened in a court ruling in the state of Michigan that I was involved in. And it’s like, I don’t even put a blanket on my horse. What are you talking about? God put a blanket on my horse and you’re penalizing this guy because he put used blankets on his horse. We have such a disconnect on how animals are to be treated like animals and allow them to be an animal. And we need to protect children and the human beings. And that is getting lost in the equation.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, and Cammie is fearless on that. That is one of the things that we focus on. as well here on the show, is we need to protect our children. When I think of the heroes of America, the Revolutionary War, Civil War, I really believe we are in the third founding of our country now. One of the important things is we try to protect, preserve, conserve something good to pass on to the next generation. That thing is liberty, which is the responsible exercise of freedom. And when you’re working to pass that on, you’re You have a duty to the next generation. And that’s why I love what the Center for American Values is doing. And they’re nonpartisan, nonpolitical. Also, that’s why I support the USMC Memorial Foundation. Trent Luce, we’ve got about a minute left. I had a whole bunch of other things I want to talk with you about. So how about if you come back next Wednesday and we’ll talk about it?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I’ve just been doing a little searching on this Emma Lazarus. And I am looking forward to digging deeper into the person who wrote that poem. It’s on our Statue of Liberty. I think we’re going to have a very big unveiling.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. And so that’s next week. Also, you and I want to talk about this potential proposal on freeing up some public lands for housing. You had sent me over an article on that. I had that on our list.
SPEAKER 07 :
The key word there was underutilized. I don’t know what that means, Doug Burgum. Where is there federal land that’s underutilized?
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. Well, we’ll keep that as a cliffhanger because we’ll talk about it next week, Trent Luce. And again, where can people find you?
SPEAKER 07 :
Just really, my sub stack is the best place, but Beck News, beek.news, just search Trent Luce, and you’ll find things you did and didn’t want to know.
SPEAKER 12 :
We’ll talk to you next week. Thank you.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you, Kim.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, and our quote for the end of the show is from Alexander the Great. He said, as for a limit to one’s labors, I, for one, do not recognize any for a high-minded man, except that the labors themselves should lead to noble accomplishments. So, my friends, today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
SPEAKER 03 :
Like a new moon rising fierce Through the rain and lightning Wandering out into this great unknown And I don’t want no one to cry
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