From the vibrant discussions on the socialization of public sectors to eye-opening revelations about election integrity, this episode covers it all. Featuring in-depth analyses of current political maneuverings and legislative proposals, Kim Munson unpacks the implications for the common citizen. Listen in to stay informed, empowered, and ready to engage in the vital dialogues shaping our world.
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It’s the Kim Munson Show, analyzing the most important stories.
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On an equal field in the battle of ideas, mistruths and misconceptions is getting us into a world of hurt.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
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Indeed, let’s have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You’re each treasured. You’re valued. You have purpose today. Strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body, my friends. We were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Wednesday, right?
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Yes, ma’am.
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Very much so. He probably didn’t have time for it.
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I don’t think so. And he said this. He said, This is so important. And my dad said something to me along this line as well. He said, if you know what you want in this life and you’re willing to work for it, he says, the world will step aside and you can accomplish that. And I’ve always thought, how is that? But the reason is, is because of focus and discipline and knowing what you want to have accomplished. So Goethe said this, he said, the moment one definitely commits oneself to then providence moves too. Whatever you think you can do or believe you can do, begin it. Action has magic, power, and grace. Our bill of the days, we will talk with Paula Beard. in the second segment. And again, she’s one of our newest Cup board members and so delighted to have her join us. But this is really big news in our arena. And so many of you are out there doing such great work, caring about our elections. I want to get some of our guests on regarding Convention of the States. These issues, all of this is important, but it comes down to our elections must be free, fair, honest, and transparent. And Donald Trump issued an executive order on yesterday, and he said this is preserving and protecting the integrity of American elections. And he went through, and I think it makes a lot of sense, he cites a number of laws that have been put on the books. But he started this, he said, well, the United States, he said, many of the developed nations, as well as those still developing, such as India and Brazil, for example, are tying voter identification to a biometric database. while the United States largely relies on self-attestation for citizenship. In tabulating votes, Germany and Canada require use of paper ballots counted in public by local officials, which substantially reduces the number of disputes as compared to the American patchwork. of voting methods that can lead to basic chain of custody problems. Further, while countries like Denmark and Sweden sensibly limit mail-in voting to those unable to vote in person and do not count late arriving votes, duh, Regardless of the date of the postmark, many American elections now feature mass voting by mail, that’s Colorado, with many officials accepting ballots without postmarks or those received well after election day. This executive order goes on to say free, fair, and honest elections, unmarred by fraud, errors, and suspicion, are fundamental to maintaining our constitutional republic. He says the right of American citizens to have their votes properly counted and tabulated without illegal dilution is vital to determining the rightful winner of an election. Under the Constitution, state governments must safeguard American elections in compliance with federal laws that protect Americans’ voting rights and guard against dilution by illegal voting, discrimination, fraud, and other forms of malfeasance and error. At this point, I’m going to make an editorial comment regarding our lawsuit with the United Sovereign Americans, which you all stepped forward to raise the money for this lawsuit, which was filed last September. It puts in place just this. The lawsuit says that Colorado is not meeting the minimum standards as set forth by Congress. for our elections. So I think that our lawsuit is going to be a great compliment to what he is doing right here. Thank you. It was really a God thing, a God nudge to get these lawsuits, the money raised, and to get these funded here in Colorado. I think this is going to be huge. Then he goes on to say, yet the United States has not adequately enforced federal election requirements that, for example, prohibit states from counting ballots received after Election Day or prohibit non-citizens from registering to vote. One of our inflection points, our vulnerabilities here in Colorado, is illegal aliens, non-citizens, can get a driver’s license or a Colorado ID. In Colorado, when you have an interaction with the government, you are automatically registered to vote. The illegal alien needs to self-attest here in Colorado that they are not a citizen. What could go wrong with that? Also, he went on to say later on, Maintaining accurate voter registration lists is a fundamental requirement in protecting voters from having their ballots voided or diluted by fraudulent votes. And that goes to our second lawsuit with the Wisconsin Center for Election Justice with Peter Berninger. And we have in that lawsuit, which was filed November 1st, And then we re-ran, let me put it, let’s see, I wanted to rephrase that. The Secretary of State said that we had used old data for that lawsuit. So Peter Berninger got the voter records as of November 1st and ran the records. It was a targeted list. Out of that targeted list was 14,500 people in Colorado that should not have received ballots voted. And so that’s the basis of the second lawsuit. I talked with both Marley Hornick with United Sovereign Americans yesterday and Peter Berninger with Wisconsin Center for Election Justice. They are thrilled with this executive order. And they said that our lawsuits have put us in an excellent position here in Colorado. Stay tuned. We’re at the tip of the spear and you’re in the battle, my friends. And then Colorado Secretary of State issued this press release. And she said this. Trump’s executive order is unlawful. According to probably Colorado law, that may be true as far as Colorado law, but federal law trumps Colorado law. And I would say that many of the things in Colorado are probably unconstitutional. So just stay tuned on that. But she goes on to say, it would prevent eligible Americans from exercising their sacred right to vote. Don’t think so. She said the Trump administration is weaponizing the federal government and trying to make it harder for voters to fight back at the ballot box. No, no, no. With all of the vulnerabilities that are going on in Colorado, it is diluting, I think, our legitimate votes. So stay tuned. She said the United States has always led the world in conducting free and fair elections. Well, that’s our goal. And we cannot let Donald Trump in that legacy. No, we want Donald Trump to maintain that legacy. And so stay tuned, roll up your sleeves. We’re in the fight. And we have all these discussions because of our sponsors, the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team. can help you with all of your insurance needs. You won’t know exactly what you have unless you sit down and really take a look at it. You can have a complimentary appointment with them by giving them a call at 303-795-8855. Like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan team is there.
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Only in America do we have this right to go to work and reclaim our state and our country. And so excited about doing that. Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That’s KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And sign up for our weekly email newsletter there as well. And Producer Joe had a quick comment regarding my comments on the executive order. from Donald Trump to preserve and protect the integrity of our elections, and then Jenna Griswold, Secretary of State’s office, press release, that said that this executive order is unlawful. And you had a thought, Producer Joe.
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My thought was, if it’s unlawful, what about the 22 firearm bills that she is pushing through?
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That they’re pushing down there, yeah.
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Well, and also on top of that, they say in the Constitution, this right shall not be infringed upon. And so that’s my question more than any.
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I think that’s a really good question. Young producer, Joe. And let’s thank you. And let’s jump over here. Paula Beard is a new member to the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, an all-volunteer group that goes through and takes positions on different pieces of legislation as it pertains to the taxpayer. So we work to protect the taxpayer, TABOR, Colorado’s Taxpayers Bill of Rights, our school choice for families, property rights, all those kinds of things. Paula Beard, welcome to the show. Hello there. Good morning. It’s great to have you. And we are so pleased to have you on the board of CUT as well. And I want to give a shout out to our fellow board members because you all are doing such amazing work. You’re all volunteers. And that’s Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Rami Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onizor, you, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard, who I think you know. And I thank you. Thank you. for joining us. First of all, as a new member, what is your perspective on CUT? Yeah, what’s your perspective on that? I don’t want to give you an answer on that.
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I am so glad one of the board members talked to me about possibly joining this. My perspective is if people in Colorado knew what was going on in the legislature, Things would change if regular people knew the unconstitutionality of a lot of these bills. I just don’t see how our legislator could just be run over by Democrats.
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Well, and that’s why shedding light on this is so important. And it is amazing. At this particular point in time, this Bill Track 50 that we use, which is pretty cool, Paula, as of this morning, there were 560 bills and resolutions that have been proposed down at the Statehouse. We at CUT have taken positions on 216 of them. And we would really encourage people to join us at coloradotaxpayer.org. But this is amazing work by volunteers, and I really think it’s amazing. But we yesterday rolled out something we’ve been working on, and that is cut engaged, where we are going to make it easy. for people to contact sponsors of the bills and their legislators on three or four bills each week. And I’m really pleased to announce today with you that this is up and running.
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Yes, and I’m thankful that Corey kind of helped with that.
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Yes, and then Zach put it all together. And Corey’s going to be taking, and he’s going to be on next week, taking this, and he’s going to be handling us on X, which I think is really fantastic. But we took positions on three bills that you can just go to the website, and you can click on it, and you can send a message to the sponsors, enter your name, legislators and the three that we chose are being heard well two are heard this week and one is just one that’s really on the hearts of our board members but one is 1269 building the building decarbonization measures and that is house bill 1269 house bill or excuse me senate bill 37 coal transition grants And then House Bill 1211, tap fees for special districts. So go to our website and check all that out. Paula, we took positions on three bills this week, which is amazing. There’s been some weeks we had 34, which is a lot of work. But let’s just run through these quick like. Shall we start with Senate Bill 148, modifications to campaign finance requirements? What’s CUT’s position on that?
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Cut’s position was no.
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And our reasoning?
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Well, I’m going to read the cut comment here. The bill increases the prohibition of lobbyist campaign contributions from during the legislative session to year-round. The bill also increases disclosure requirements. But, you know, all this sounds really good. But then it says fees will therefore need to be raised to cover the cost of the increased cost of the bill. The increased fees will be paid by business owners who have nothing to do with campaign contributions. So the reason I voted no on this, I mean, this sounds really good, but with all the complaints that are going to come up from this, the fees are going to go up and they’re from business filings. I don’t understand that.
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Right. And so this is what a strategy we see. They may propose something that may sound good, but ultimately this is another hit at business and businesses are having a hard enough time here in Colorado. So we’re a no on that. How about the next one? And that is Senate Bill 190. Oh, I need to mention the bill sponsors. The prime sponsor on that Senate Bill 148 on these campaign finance requirements is Senator Michael Weissman. Over here on Senate Bill 196, prime sponsor is Senator Iman Joda. Insurance coverage for preventative health care services. Give us the perspective of cut on that.
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Well, that was unanimously opposed. First of all, they’re assuming that a lot of the coverage is going to be cut federally. So they’re assuming that that’s going to happen. And let’s see, I did look up, well, I know there’s 54 preventative guidelines that the US Preventative Service is in favor of. This is going to make insurance companies leave our state, and then the ones that you want to find are going to be more expensive for private individuals and businesses.
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Right, because it has all those force words in there, mandate, require. You know, all of those are your flags that government is probably out of their proper role. And then, let’s see, the last one, appropriate use of prison beds, House Bill 1214. Cuts, thoughts on that, Paula Beard? Oh, my gosh.
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This was going to save so much money, which could be a possibility, except for the 15 or 16 full-time employees needed to do this. This is basically turning away class five and six felonies from a prison sentence. There have They’re reducing sentencing so that there will be prison beds available for, you know, aggressive whatever. And to me, this is not how to reduce crime. You don’t reward crime by enabling it. I just think… Yeah. I mean, if a kid, if you have a baby… If a baby cries to be picked up in the middle of the night over and over again, you don’t go in until the baby stops crying. You’re teaching the baby, you know, you’re going to get what you want if you don’t act up. So I think all, all cry, there’s gotta be some sort of punishment that hurts.
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But they do this under, again, the guise of maybe possibly saving money. But to your point, significant number of full-time employees, which that’s going to cost a lot more money. So cut is a strong no on that as well. And so it was a light week for all of us as I was going through that. We had taken positions already. There was now I can’t remember exactly how many bills, but over 200 bills, I think, scheduled for hearing down at the statehouse. We had already taken positions on many of those bills, and then I’d already reviewed some of them as well. So we’re in a little bit of a reprieve, Paula. Yeah. But our secretary, Wendy Warner, said that normally as we get closer to the end of the session, which is May 6th, that we’re going to start to see a ramp up again. So I think we’re resting a little bit, Paula Beard, and just stay tuned. And we really would encourage people to join us, Paula Beard.
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Well, thank you, Kim. And yes, it’s eye-opening. To know what’s going on in the legislature.
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Well, and the first thing to do is to know what’s going on. So Paula Beard, thank you so much for joining us. You’re so welcome. And that website is coloradotaxpayer.org. It’s only $25 to join us. That’s for the year. $2.08 a month. That’s less than a cup of coffee, and you’re going to get all of this great information. So be sure and check all of that out. And we have these discussions because we have great sponsors. I know each and every one of them personally. And I recommend that you reach out to Karen Levine if you’re buying or selling your home.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. And you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And my friends, we have not realized that many of our school board elections, that there are radicals that are running for school boards and they have specific agendas. And it is amazing to me. There are people that are stepping forward to run for school board who really care about our children and care about curriculum, care about these things. And we need more of them. And we’ve got one of them on the line with us right now. And that is Nancy Rumfelt. She is a board director for the Thompson School District. Nancy, welcome to the show.
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Well, thank you for having me. And I would always I always add my disclaimer. Everything I say during your show is my own personal opinion. I’m not speaking for on behalf of the school board.
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OK, we got it. And I understand what I understand. So speaking as Nancy Rumfelt. And you’re on the board of Thompson School District. This radical transgender activist agenda is prevalent in many of our schools. We don’t even realize it. And apparently it’s something that’s being pushed there at Thompson School District as well, yes?
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Yes, and it’s been that way for a while, starting back in – Early 2021, the school board passed a gender transition plan which allows the school district, any school, to socially transition a student without the consent of the parents. If the student says, I don’t think my parents will support me, we don’t investigate. We don’t find out if it’s true. We just say, okay, and that’s it. I have asked repeatedly to add parental consent And they act as if I’m, I don’t know, I’m subjecting or going to sentence that student to some horrible treatment by their parents, which I think is ridiculous. The really sad truth, Kim, though, is what we forget about is there are kids, there’s actual kids getting caught up in all of this stuff that’s driven by adults. We’re forgetting about the real humanness of transgender kids, kids who are experiencing gender dysphoria, How do they deal with this? How do they go through school without being identified or brought out and trying to live their life? And same with those who live as biological male or females. How do we make things fair? And you can’t even have the discussion without being accused of being anti-trans, transphobic, a hater, a bigot. And What kind of lesson does that send to kids with what we’re modeling? What does that tell them? I mean, really.
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Well, and we continue to delve into this issue more and more. And one of the things that has come out is some of these adults, there are those that really have this agenda regarding kids, but some of these adults in this arena that are mutilating children, both pharmaceutically and surgically, In their minds, they think they’re helping children. Now, I don’t know quite how they match that up, but they do. And anyone that tries to prevent that, they are demonizing them. So, tell us about your t-shirt.
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Well, back in February 19th, I wore a t-shirt. All it said, simply, Real Women Rock. Nothing more, nothing less. I bought it after watching a video that Jennifer Say with XXXY Athletics made, showing how strong real women who are competing in sports, women like Riley Gaines and so forth, and I found it very inspiring. I also knew that this month is Women’s Month, and the February 19th would really be the only public meeting because we have one today, but it’s almost the end of the month. No big deal. Well, they turned it into a big deal. And the amount of male saying that I’m a hater, adding all kinds of meaning to three simple words. But I would just simply say to people, Kim, if someone can wear a rainbow shirt, a pride shirt, that doesn’t mean that they hate heterosexuals or women or anything. It just means they’re proud of who they are. So wearing a shirt that says real women rock, Why do I have to say, yes, that means something because I’m excluding trans women? Why do women have to give up space? Why do we have to share?
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Whoops, did we? She fell off. Oh my gosh, we got to get her back on right there on that. So I’m going to go ahead and give you a little bit more backstory on this. Nancy Rumfelt, who is a Thompson school board member, wore this shirt, Real Women Rock. And so she said that the other board members were fixated on that. And she also noted in this meeting with her board report that Thompson School District is not in compliance with Title IX. since the court ruling in January and that they needed to discuss it. And she certainly, she has a video link on that as well. She said there were the usual folks who sent emails and complained about the shirt, but most of the complaints were generated by the Facebook page. And so Nancy’s back. So Nancy, you have the t-shirt. You wanted to have a discussion regarding Title IX. Then what happened?
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It’s just been turned into something that it’s really not about. I mean, when I engage with reasonable people, they understand then that I’m talking about, we need to talk about fair solutions. How do we accommodate athletes, girls and trans girls? How do we ensure sports remains fair and competitive, which Title IX is? compels us to do. That’s what Title IX is all about. It’s discrimination based on sex, and that’s it. So having that discussion is needed because we need to figure this out so we don’t lose federal funding. But we can’t do that if they won’t allow a discussion. They keep shutting it down because they want to make it about something else, which is nothing more than a distraction to the real issues we’re facing.
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Well, and what about these boys that are identifying as girls? In Thompson School District, are these boys at this particular point in time allowed in the girls’ restrooms and the girls’ locker rooms?
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They are allowed. My understanding is often they’ll choose to use the unisex, but there’s nothing stopping them from using the locker rooms or the girls’ unisex. which I know they use the girls’ restrooms. The bigger thing is, you know, we force our girls’ sports team to compete against other districts that do have transgender girls, biological males on their teams, and that’s just simply not fair. It creates an unfair competitive advantage. I don’t know that people understand. I’ve had some people say there’s way bigger issues than transgenders in sports. It’s like, well, why don’t you go talk to the parents of these girls who are trying to compete, build their self-esteem, win competitions, win medals, but more importantly, win scholarships. Scholarships are so important to the girls who go into sports, and now they have to compete for these scholarships with a transgender girl who’s a biological male? They have to compete against that? How is that fair? It’s not. And that’s what Title IX is all about. And we need to have this discussion as a board acting like grownups who can learn to respect different views and have a conversation and figure out what is the best solution instead of making everything about a person. That solves no problems and keeps everybody distracted and just foments more hate, more division. And how is that good for our children to see? Again, how is that good for our children? They need to see us act like adults.
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Well, and to have a discussion, seems like that’s a freedom of speech issue, Nancy.
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Well, exactly. They’re all up in arms saying I violated, I don’t know, laws, the Constitution, policies. The reality is there is no dress code that applies to a school board member. It also is true I still have a First Amendment right. It’s also true that if a student or a staff wore the same shirt and we made them go home and change or force them to cover it up or expel them or wrote them up, they would have a solid case. for their First Amendment right being violated by a government entity. So for some reason, there seems to be this belief that if you are sitting on a school board, you lose, you check your First Amendment rights at the door. And that’s just simply not true. You still have your First Amendment rights. You still have to also objectively and rationally listen to all of the information before you make a decision and vote. Again, it goes back to we’re losing our ability to keep things as common sense. We just want to keep adding meaning where meaning is not there because it helps support the narrative that they’ve decided is true. And it’s not just the far left that does that. There’s also people on the right that do it. And, you know, rational people need to be able to discern the difference and see through it so we can figure out a solution. Again, we need to stop, act like adults, talk about, are we going to comply with Title IX? Oh, we’re not? Okay. How do you want to replace the federal dollars? Because President Trump’s made it clear they are and will and have take federal funding. If we don’t want to comply, great. How do you want to find the money? If we do comply, then we need to figure out the fair solutions for the locker rooms, the bathrooms, the sports teams, so that we can also still comply with state laws, which the state laws in place are a whole other conversation. We’re in a tough position, all school districts in Colorado, because you have federal and state laws, but they’re in conflict. So it requires some real finesse to figure out how do we follow the law and abide by doing what’s right for our students. I mean, it’s a difficult conversation we need to have.
SPEAKER 15 :
So, Nancy, super interesting conversation for sure. This came in from one of our listeners, and he said, this is grooming. He said, historically, we have legally treated children differently than adults. The transgender agenda undermines this wisdom. So I thank him for that. We had some conversations this week, earlier in the week, regarding the Constitution, the Declaration, nature’s God, and nature’s law. And really, I think this transgender agenda goes against nature’s law of male and female so I think of course those that don’t believe in nature’s law I guess good luck on that let’s we’ll have to continue to have the discussion on that and we’re going to continue to do that because tonight there is an important meeting and it would be really great if people support Nancy because it probably I talked to one of our other colleagues up there in northern Colorado she said the chances are pretty high that the transgender gender activist extremist agenda is going to be out in full force tonight. So we’ll talk with you about that, Nancy, when we come back. But I did want to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation, which is one of the nonprofits that I dearly love. And in mid-May, they’re going to have a great golf tournament, their second annual golf tournament out at the Ridge. in Castle Rock. And there will be a certain amount of openings for golfers. And so make your reservation early on that and buy your sponsorship. You can do that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And then for everything mortgages, you’ll want to talk to Lorne Levy, and we will talk to him in the second hour. So stay tuned. We’ll be right back with Nancy Rumfeldt.
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Yes, and welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is kimmunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at kimmunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force. Force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And do check out the Center for American Values located in Pueblo, Colorado. And Pueblo is known as the home of heroes because there’s four Medal of Honor recipients that grew up there. Yesterday was Medal of Honor Day. And I’m very pleased we’ll have Drew Dix on the show on Friday to talk about that. And he is… a Medal of Honor recipient and co-founder of the Center for American Values. The center is non-political. It’s non-partisan. It focuses on these foundational values of honor, integrity, and patriotism. You can get more information by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. That’s AmericanValueCenter.org. On the line with me is Nancy Rumfelt, Thompson School Board Director. She wore a t-shirt that said, Real Women Rock. And they want to have a discussion about ethics. When I say they, that is the other school board members, about your ethics in wearing such a shirt. Yes, Nancy?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes, they did on the March 5th study agenda. They decided to have a 15-minute conversation regarding my ethics about wearing a shirt and did a lot of the usual, you know, accusing me of hating trans, being anti-trans. when really it’s just about girls’ sports. How do you protect girls’ sports and how do you keep things fair? And again, they always like to use these other things as a distraction because the reality is, again, it’s a conversation I’ve asked for repeatedly. Being in the minority, I’m typically, what I would like to see on agendas is usually ignored. It’s as if I didn’t say it. So now we have this meeting tonight that where many people have been worked up into a frenzy that I need to be censured, I’m a bigot, I’m hateful, etc. The only good thing that’s come out of this is that it’s finally, I believe, awakened many parents to see what’s really happening in the schools and that they can’t be afraid to speak up anymore. Many of these parents will talk to me or through back channels ask if there’s anything I can do to help with the girls’ sports, and there’s not because they’re so silent. And now it’s almost as if they’re worried because parents and their daughters are going to speak tonight and say, no, this is a real issue, and here’s my own personal experience as a girl who had to compete against a boy. And that’s the reality of it. Imagine your 14- or 15-year-old daughter doing really well in wrestling. She’s in third place, and she gets taken out because she had to wrestle an 18-year-old boy. Now she’s out and she’s done. So while they talk about fairness, where’s the fairness in that? And that is exactly what Title IX is about. And I would also add to your one question. listener that as far as the grooming we need to understand that there’s so many good teachers that are just stuck they’re trapped in a in just a bad situation system they don’t like this any more than the rest of us but they’re stuck they’re trapped between all of these laws and forced to do things they really don’t want to
SPEAKER 15 :
And Colorado, I think, is really at the tip of the spear with this agenda. Quick question, because I so you mentioned girls wrestling. I thought wrestling was a boy’s sport. And I’d always been uncomfortable with girls wrestling in a boy’s sports. And as we’re looking at now where we’re at, I don’t think girls should wrestle in boy’s sports.
SPEAKER 14 :
No, and actually there’s a whole sports for wrestling that’s just for girls. I did not know that. Yes, and they do really well, and they enjoy it, and they get to win competitions and medals and trophies and advance, and they can even win scholarships. And so, again, it goes back to your daughter’s working so hard to be a really great wrestler, and now she gets… kicked out she lost because she had to compete she had to wrestle a boy and so that is not fair and that is what title nine is all about and that’s what we need to talk about you know i i get i have my own views on this whole transgender we’ve we’ve just turned everything upside down where the medical industry has always approached everything from a cess assess, assess, and then treat. And now when it comes to gender dysphoria, the law in Colorado says you must affirm. You must affirm and you can’t do anything else. So where does that leave the treatment? So that’s why these laws, you know, as soon as someone says they’re trans, they’re trans. They’re now protected by all these laws when the reality is they should be going through treatment for gender dysphoria because overwhelmingly these kids have other underlying issues and they work through it and they come out accepting their body the way it is. This whole term of gender is some post-modernism construct. You know, for me, it’s sex. Are you male? You’re female. That’s your sex. Your gender is just some word they use to just muddy the waters, in my opinion.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and watching legislation with the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, there is this whole agenda regarding that whole gender thing down at the statehouse. Two texts that have come in, one from Jenny. She said the murder of logic has taken place in today’s discourse. And I’m thinking in your situation, you’re not even having public discourse on these issues, Nancy Rumfelt.
SPEAKER 14 :
No, we’re not. It’s going to be interesting. We’re probably going to have a lot of people signing up for public comment. Everybody deserves to provide comment and feedback to their government, which that’s what public education is. We’re a government. So I will sit and respectfully listen to everybody that speaks tonight. Some of it will be difficult. Some of it won’t. I’m hoping that after tonight, that we’ll be able to put this behind us and start focusing on all of these important issues we do need to deal with, which is Title IX compliance, the budget, discipline, student reading. Can we get kids to read? Let’s focus on the real important issues and stop with the hate and division.
SPEAKER 15 :
So, Nancy Rumfelt, do you happen to know off the top of your head the reading and math proficiency numbers for Thompson School District?
SPEAKER 14 :
On average, you know, we are below 50%, you know, for third grade reading, you know, and you have to think about it. When you leave third grade and you go into fourth grade, if you’re two or more grade levels behind, how well are you going to do in math? And the data supports that. If you cannot read, you also cannot do math. And so Thompson is much like many other districts in the state where we seem to have problems figuring out how to get kids to be able to read And it’s because we take the money, and in my opinion, we put too much in admin and too much in some of these other programs, and we should be spending a lot, putting more reading interventionists in the schools that need them. That’s what we need to do. But, again, you have to be able to have that kind of conversation with the entire board. And so we need to stop with this majority-minority. We’re all elected to represent our constituents and students. Number one, focus on the classroom. What is best for the classroom, and that’s it. We’re not here to do any social engineering or any of that other stuff. We’re supposed to educate.
SPEAKER 15 :
That’s it. Okay, Nancy Rumfelt. This came in from Sandra. She said, excellent show and guest. Our dear Nancy Rumfelt has put it on the line by serving our country. Thank you, Nancy, for serving on Thompson District School Board in these trying times. She says she’ll be there tonight to support you. How can people support you? We have just a minute left, Nancy.
SPEAKER 14 :
You can go to tsd.org and click on board meeting and then follow the links. You can do a phone-in comment today up until 3 p.m. if you’d like to phone in some words of support. You can also send emails to the entire board and talk about what we should be focusing on, words of support. If you’re here locally, you can show up. to the district building, 800 South Taft, around 4 p.m. Stand in line, get a ticket to enter, and signed up for public comment. And we just need to remember, this is about the kids for the kids, and that’s why we’re here. And that’s in Loveland, correct? This is in Loveland, 800 South Taft. In Loveland is where the school board meeting is tonight. And we just need to, like I said, keep the focus on the kids. It’s not about us grownups and our issues. It’s about the kids.
SPEAKER 15 :
Nancy Rumfelt, thank you for standing in the gap for our children, and good luck tonight. Thank you. And our quote for the end of the show is from Goethe, and he said this, To the world you might be one person, but to one person you might be the world. Kindness is the golden chain by which our world is bound together. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. And stay tuned for hour number two.
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SPEAKER 15 :
Boy, I tell you, Nancy Rumfelt, who was our featured guest in our number one board director with Thompson School Board, and she’s going to be in this meeting tonight regarding, she just wore a T-shirt, Real Women Rock. And I guess this month is Women’s Month, and those probably pushing Women’s Month now are saying they can’t define what a woman is. I don’t know. It all seems a little crazy to me. But she wore that T-shirt, and her other board members took a real issue with that. So very important discussion. You can hear that as it’s rebroadcast today, 1 to 2 in the afternoon. The show does come to you 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. First hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour, 10 to 11 at night. That’s on all KLZ 560 platforms, which is KLZ 560 AM, 100.7 FM, the website, the app. You can have Alexa play KLZ, and then the shows will be on Spotify and iTunes as well. Be sure and check out the website. That is KimMunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter while you’re over there. You’ll get our Sunday newsletter, which shows all of our guests and upcoming, our essays. And you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com. Text line is 720-605-0647. I do want to hear from you on all that. Our word of the day is an indefatigable word. And it is I-N-D-E-F-A-T-I-G-A-B-L-E, as in meticulous, or number two, showing no signs of weariness even after long, hard effort. I would say that Nancy Rumfeld is indefatigable in her pursuit of representing students and families at Thompson School District. as one of their board members. Your challenge is to use the word indefatigable as spelled I-N-D-E-F-A-T-I-G-A-B-L-E in a sentence today. Our quote of the day is from Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, born in 1749, died in 1832. And he was a German polymath, so interested in all kinds of things. And he said this. He said, Action has magic, power, and grace. And our bill of the day, you can find those at coloradotaxpayer.org. The three that we took positions on this week were House Bill 25-1214. The appropriate use of prison beds, and we are a no on that at CUT. Senate Bill 25-148, modifications to campaign finance requirements. This would hire, I think, 15 additional full-time government employees on the backs of business registration, so we’re a no on that. And Senate Bill 25-196, insurance coverage preventative health care services. I think that this is looking into the future to make sure that insurance companies are mandated to pay for abortions and for transgender transitioning. And so check all those out at Colorado Union of Taxpayer. And we did just roll out our Cut Engaged. And you can find that at coloradotaxpayer.org. This is an easy way for you each week to take a position, send some information to bill sponsors and your legislators. And we’ve worked diligently. We’ve made a financial commitment to make that happen. And be sure and access that by going to coloradotaxpayer.org. And while you’re there, we would love to have you join us on that as well. And we look at these issues, we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you shouldn’t have to force people to do it. And it’s not compassionate to take other people’s stuff. And whether or not, I would say it’s not compassionate or altruistic to take other people’s stuff via force. And in the first hour, we go through that long list. And if something’s a good idea, you shouldn’t have to force people to do it. On the show, we focus on the issues, and we’ll talk about the people pushing those issues. We’re really trying to stay out of the personalities and the fighting and all that, and that happens in politics on a pretty regular basis. I do thank Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show because it’s reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams and empowers us to change our own personal climate to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer. and we get to have all these discussions because of our sponsors. And a longtime sponsor of both the Kim Munson Show and America’s Veterans Stories is Lorne Levy for Everything Mortgages. He can help you in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York. Welcome, Lorne Levy.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hey, good morning, Kim.
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Question. When interest rates were low, I remember you sitting right here in the studio. Some people got interest rates locked in below 3%, and they were being held artificially low. At this point, they’re not moving. We’ve had some good numbers. Are they being held artificially high now?
SPEAKER 03 :
I don’t think they’re being artificially held high. What we had before when they were really low is we had a Fed that was being what we call the buyer of last resort of mortgage securities. So even though Wall Street maybe didn’t have a taste for them being that low interest rates, you know, Wall Street might not want to buy loans in the twos and threes on the long term, you know. So the Federal Reserve was buying them, and they haven’t been buying them in a very long time. If anything, they’ve been selling them off their balance sheet. So the market is more of a normal market now, which is the reason why I think they’re not coming down as fast as people might want, even the president, because where it was an abnormal market with a buyer of last resort, like you’re saying, that buyer is not there anymore to drive the rates down. So now we’re seeing true market action, and the market determines what they want rates to be, and they want them – you know, in the sixes and, you know, maybe even in the low sevens when they compare them to what they can get from U.S. Treasuries, which, you know, a 10-year U.S. Treasury right now is paying 4.3%. So you can lend your money to the U.S. government for 10 years and get 4.3%, which is risk-free because they’ll just print more money. Whereas a mortgage, someone could default on, so an investor is going to want higher interest rate on that than 4.3%. to take the risk of a default potentially. So I think we’re in a normal market now, whereas before we were not.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. What about, you and I have talked about institutional buyers that had come in and been buying houses up in these markets. Are you still seeing that happen, Lorne?
SPEAKER 03 :
Not nearly as much as they were before. And again, I just had this conversation with a customer yesterday. He was asking because he’s an investor. And what was happening before is those guys were also paying cash for homes at a large scale, and then putting debt back on them, getting mortgages after the fact. But they, too, were getting low-rate mortgages on investment properties. So when they add the rent in, their return on investment, or what they refer to as a cap rate, was really good for their investors as they’re paying out dividends. Now, if those guys go to put debt on those very same properties, they’re looking at investment rates in the mid-7s, which doesn’t work for their math as far as their cap rates as much to give them such a good return on the investment to their investors. So they’re not buying them as much as they were before, not to any scale like that.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. I’m also seeing… Which is a good thing.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s opened them up for more people that want to live in the homes, you know?
SPEAKER 15 :
And you know how much I love people being able to create wealth by home ownership. And I am seeing, at least in my neighborhood, more for sale signs. So with more supply, these people that are selling homes will have to get a little bit more creative as they compete for buyers, yes? Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes and no. I mean, you hear Karen say all the time, Karen Levine, you know, if you price your home right and it looks good and it’s done well, they’re selling quick still. And sometimes with multiple offers, I’ve had a couple of purchases go through this week where people were making offers on a home and they were, you know, there wasn’t maybe eight to ten offers, but there was one or two competing bids. on a nicely done home that was priced correctly. You know, there still may be people who think there’s going to be way high bidding and maybe they overpriced it. But, you know, if it’s done right, there is pent up demand because there’s been such a long time of not a lot of inventory of homes. that there are buyers out there and there is pent-up demand. So, so far, when these new listings are coming in, we still only have maybe a two- or three-month supply of homes. We’re not seeing them flood the market to where they’re just sitting stagnant, unless there’s something not 100% right, you know, with either the price or the property itself. But, yeah, we are seeing a pickup. And I think it comes back to this, what we call this new norm, where I think for a long time, Kim, people thought, well, I’ll just wait until rates come back down again. And I think now they’re getting used to the fact that they probably won’t come back down drastically. And if they want to own a home, jump in now and then refinance later if the rates do come down.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. And getting pre-qualified is a great idea. And so how could people do that by giving you a call?
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Yeah, they just call us at 303-880-8881. And most of the time, I would say almost all the time, when I talk to an agent who is selling a home that I represent the buyer on, They’re asking me questions about that buyer because they may have another buyer they’re competing with, and they want to know the ability to close of that buyer. And so you have to get pre-qualified, sometimes even pre-approved for an underwriter for that listing agent. That’s what they want to hear so that they accept your offer and not somebody else’s. So it’s extremely important to do that.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, and that number with Lorne Levy is 303-880-8881. Lorne, we’ll talk with you next week.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, thank you so much, Kim.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is kimmunson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force. Force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. It is Wednesday, so that means it’s a Trent Luce Wednesday. Trent is a sixth generation farmer and rancher. who continues to stand for the people that feed and fuel us, rural Colorado, rural America. And we take all these things for granted. We’ve taken for granted affordable and abundant food supplies at our grocery store, affordable fuel for our car. All those things we’ve taken for granted. They’ve all been under assault. And hopefully we’re going to get this turned around. But it’s great to have him. Trent Luce, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hi, Kim. Great to be here.
SPEAKER 15 :
Hey, what was your week like? What did you do this week?
SPEAKER 05 :
I got to see my mother.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, oh, where does your mother live?
SPEAKER 05 :
Quincy, Illinois.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
She lives right there where the first loose came to from Germany in 1839. And she brought my sister along. So that was fantastic.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, that’s awesome. So great. So you weren’t out there then. Normally you’re all over the, seems like the country on all this. But you had some homework.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, actually, I do have something else that I did that aired today. And it’s ironic because I know about Nancy, your first hour guest. And my Trend on the Loose program that aired this morning is probably one of the best I’ve ever done. And it has zero to do with me, Kim. It was where I was at on Friday. I was at a high school in Marcus, Iowa. It’s in Cherokee County, Iowa. And this high school has tackled upon themselves with two industrial arts teachers to give these kids skills in this high school that want to be a part of their industrial arts program in SkillsUSA. And so I hope people take the time to go find this and watch it. And I’ll post it on my sub stack yet today. But they had a construction division where they’re actually building little buildings. They have a cabinet making. They have an extensive, very extensive welding and everything you can possibly do with welding. And then in another part of this building, they had a tool and die maker where they’re making the components, the machinery work. They had a complete engine rehaul. They had a 1979 Case tractor. It wasn’t Case IH then. Excuse me. It was just Case. They had a 1979 Case tractor that a gentleman, a farmer, had died, and the family donated it to the school, and these kids have rebuilt the engine, and now they’ve got to paint it and get it going on. And, you know, I’m thinking about how much money we waste in our public school systems. When I say that, when I say waste, we’re spending a lot of money and we’re not accomplishing development of skills or proficiency in the basics of reading, writing, and arithmetic. And I go to this school and it is absolutely incredible what these two ag teachers who are not ag teachers, excuse me, industrial art teachers are doing that are 33 years old and inspiring these kids. And if you want to know how effective it is, there’s roughly 200 students in this high school, and 167 of them are part of this industrial arts program. That tells you that it is something that they want to be a part of and the culture is right. That is what needs to happen in our school systems, whether they be private, charter, or public all across this country.
SPEAKER 15 :
I totally agree. And my father, a farmer, German farmer, a farmer of German heritage, he could do anything. And I remember as a kid being out in his workshop with him, and he had a welder. And he’s like, okay, kids, step back. I’m going to weld. We’d stand around. We’d watch him do that. I thought everybody’s dad could weld. That’s actually not the case, and it’s a very important skill.
SPEAKER 05 :
Don’t tell Kelly about this, but, you know, it inspired me too. And I say don’t tell Kelly because if she knows, then she’ll think I can be Mr. Handyman in all respects. You can be. But, you know, I have this chainsaw that’s not very old, and I’ve been using it, and sometime during the winter it locked up on me. And we have a guy who’s absolutely fantastic at taking care of these chainsaws. But I was thinking that if these high school, these 15-year-old kids in Marcus, Iowa, can go to school and learn all of these trades and skills, I’ll be able to take this chainsaw apart and get it fixed without taking it to Mr. Zeller, Rod Zeller, and have him fix it. So I spent an hour and a half last night getting that chain tore apart, rebuilt, not didn’t rebuild the engine. There was a lock that had gone on. I got it fixed. It took me an hour and a half getting that done. But I never had so much fun cutting cedar trees after I fixed that chainsaw myself.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, that’s awesome, Trent Luce. Good for you. Yeah, there is that satisfaction of being able to do a job yourself. And that’s one of the things that is just robbing these children of all of these things they could learn by trying to – confuse them with all of this gender stuff is tragic. Tomorrow, Trent Luce, I’m going to have, they broke it on Daily Wire, and they wanted me to have the next story on that here in Colorado. So it was a story on Daily Wire. We’re going to have the mom on the show with us tomorrow with Lori Gimmelstein with the Colorado Parents Advocacy Network down in Durango here in Colorado. This woman’s 17-year-old daughter. And I know moms and daughters can have difficult times. And the daughter actually went to a teacher. She’s living with a teacher. And the teacher’s trans husband. I don’t know exactly who. what that is exactly but anyway the mother has tried to get her her daughter back and that’s not happening right now so we’re going to be talking about that story it was on daily wire and we will be the the next one to break that story and that’s going to happen tomorrow Trent Luce well I agree with you I have no idea what that’s about and it’s time just to slap people in the face and say get real and start developing something that really matters I’m going to prepare you for life And I come from a long line of people that built things, created things, and worked with their hands. So using the word created, producer Joe and I always have a very early morning call to prepare for the show. And we got into this whole discussion about Christ and the cross and God. And I told Joe that this has been… Really a recent, within the last few years, aha for me regarding when God says in the Bible that we are created in his image. Trin, I used to think that that meant two arms, two legs, whatever. But I think what it really, really means, and that may be the case, but what it really means is God is a creator. He created. And if we’re in his image, then we create as a farmer, we plant, we grow as a rancher. We take care of our livestock and help them, our livestock grow and we feed the world. My dad always said, I want to take care of my family and I want to feed the world. And so if we are in the image of God, we are creators. So those that want to destroy is the opposite of what God has in plan for us. And so that was a really, I said to Joe, my, this is a heavy discussion on this early in the morning.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, well, it’s a discussion we probably should have every morning because it’s our time. responsibility to take care of His creation and provide for those who need it. And that’s what we do. We provide the essentials of life.
SPEAKER 15 :
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That’s KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity. by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And check out the USMC Memorial Foundation’s website. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. They’re hosting their second annual Marine Memorial Golf Tournament, May 15th, at the Ridge in Castle Pines North. And so you can register. There’s a limited amount of spots. And it’ll be a great day to Support the Marine Memorial. And also, if you’re a golfer, play a great golf course. And, again, more information, usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Trent Luce, I thought I lost you for just a moment. You’re back, and you know him, sixth-generation farmer and rancher. You can find him at LuceTalesMedia and also on Substack. And this came in from one of our listeners, Lynn. He said, Arnold, Nebraska has a great program where they are teaching kids how to use a CNC router to make and market things to sell. And it says, I know because I trained them on how to run their CNC. And incidentally, they bought their machine from a company in Colorado Springs, and that is Arnold Public Schools. I may need to move to Nebraska. I like what you’re doing there.
SPEAKER 05 :
Do you know where Arnold, Nebraska is at?
SPEAKER 15 :
No.
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s about 50 miles from my house. And it is about the farthest thing from the urbanization of Colorado Springs as you can get. At that school district, Kelly could tell me, but I don’t think they’ve got 200 kids in the entire school system.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, look at the creativity and innovation happening in these small schools. Absolutely. And at this point, I would recommend those one-room and two-room schoolhouses, the educations that those kids had. And if you want to look at the eighth-grade exam in 1898, I think, from Saline County, Kansas, the questions on there, the kids could answer those questions, and it brings new meaning to having an eighth-grade education. It is amazing. Trent Luce, you had some homework, though.
SPEAKER 05 :
I just looked it up, Kim.
SPEAKER 15 :
Had you ever looked at it before?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, I looked up the population of Arnold, Nebraska, 591 people.
SPEAKER 15 :
So is that Arnold, or that’s not for the whole county?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, that’s the town. Arnold is in Custer County. Custer County is a large county. But Arnold sits, well, you know where it’s at. It’s halfway between Stapleton and Myrna.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, that’s what I was going to say. Of course. Of course I know where it is. Right.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, I love it. Oh, I love I love rural Colorado, rural America. But let’s get over here. I think that you’re trying to avoid me on this because I’ve tried to bring this up several times. Did you give me homework? Yes, you had homework. And that is Emma Lazarus, who she had written the poem where part of it is on the inscription on the Statue of Liberty. We were talking about it last week because one of the French parliamentarians said they wanted the Statue of Liberty back because of Donald Trump. And then one of our listeners said that she was actually a socialist. I couldn’t find that exactly. What did you find out?
SPEAKER 05 :
She was a Zionist. She was an absolute advocate for within the Jewish community. And part of that poem was placed on the bottom, the base of the Statue of Liberty in 1913, even though she wrote it, I believe it was 1883. And she spent her entire… By the way, they put the poem on the Statue of Liberty base after she passed, so she didn’t even know that that was there. But she dedicated her entire life, despite growing up in… New York City, to Jewish parents that were very much Akhenazi and Zionist, that she wanted in her lifetime to see the country of Israel formed. And the truth of the matter is that the Rothschilds picked up what her activism was, and in 1947, they did what she wanted done. Now, there’s a lot of discussions that can take place about the Zionists within the Jewish religion. You know, I find it interesting that there’s a tremendous amount of data that the folks that are DNA of going back to the biblical Abraham are actually the ones in the Gaza and the Palestinians and the folks who occupy the Holy Land, Israel, do not even have the same DNA. So that whole thing has just gotten really interesting for me following up and doing my homework on Emma Lazarus.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, so yes, I found that as well, that she was a Zionist, and that she had socialist tendencies. But what I find interesting is many of those, well, I guess this was the late 1800s, but even Teddy Roosevelt Jr., or yeah, that he actually had been Republican, but then he became socialist as well. And I know I’m just throwing this out at you, but what’s your thoughts about him?
SPEAKER 05 :
Teddy Roosevelt Jr.?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, because as I’ve done research on him, I love that one poem about, or that one quote about him about the man in the arena. I love that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh.
SPEAKER 15 :
But… Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
But that’s Teddy Roosevelt, not Teddy Roosevelt Jr.
SPEAKER 15 :
Whoops, you know what? I got confused. Teddy Roosevelt Jr. died in World War II right around D-Day. So let’s get to Teddy Roosevelt. Sorry about that.
SPEAKER 05 :
It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how strong a man stumbles or where the doer of the deeds can have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs, who comes short again and again because there’s no effort without error and there’s no shortcoming, but who does actually strive to do the deeds, who knows great enthusiasm, and great devotions. I have that posted in my office. That’s the man of the arena.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. And I love that.
SPEAKER 05 :
I do, too. And Theodore Roosevelt did so many things that I admire, and yet Theodore Roosevelt did things that are greatly troubling to me. And so I’m mixed, because I’ve been a huge fan, and then I learned more of of some of the socialist thoughts that he did follow through on. But the whole idea of conservation he brought to the United States. And his idea of conservation has been hijacked by preservation because Theodore Roosevelt was a huge hunter and believed in the outdoors and actually bought a ranch and moved to Medora, North Dakota. And he said many times he would never become president had it not been for his time spent ranching in the badlands of North Dakota. And that ranch today is a federal park, and that federal park is a source of so much consternation in North Dakota and the Badlands. It’s incredible. He did not create Yellowstone Park, but he expanded the national park system to put many of the resources that we have off limits to people. And so I’m torn about Theodore Roosevelt as a pretty good student of him.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I am too as well. And then going over to Teddy Roosevelt Jr., when I was over in Normandy, as the guys were telling me the story, is that on June 6, 1944, Of course, you have all these plans for the invasion of Normandy to liberate Europe from the Nazis. And Theodore Roosevelt Jr. was a brigadier general. And he reportedly declared as his Higgins landing craft drifted about a mile from his targeted destination on Utah Beach the morning of June 6, 1944. He says, well, the war… We’ll start the war from right here. So it’s a remarkable story. And he was killed in Normandy as well. I’ve got to get this. And then he was also awarded the Medal of Honor, which yesterday was Medal of Honor Day, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, I didn’t know anything about Theodore Roosevelt, Jr.,
SPEAKER 15 :
It’s a fascinating story as well. So anyway, I didn’t know we were going to get off over here on this discussion. So let’s get to our next thing that we said we would talk about when we were preparing for this.
SPEAKER 05 :
It would be really strange if we actually talk about what you think we were going to talk about.
SPEAKER 15 :
I’m going to keep trying because Zach always says, Kim, you have to make sure that you talk about what you highlight in the newsletter at least a little bit. And so I said, Emma Lazarus, we’ve talked about her. What about Donald Trump and public lands for housing that is affordable? What’s your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s the most ridiculous thing he has said yet. And he’s said a lot of ridiculous things, particularly in the last 30 days.
SPEAKER 15 :
I like it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Why do you like it?
SPEAKER 15 :
Because there’s all this land. I look at all of this land out there, and it seems to me like it would be great if everyday people could own their own little plot of land and start to create wealth for themselves. So I like the idea.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, that’s problematic because every bit of the federal land, and we’re talking about one-third of the United States landmass, is owned by federal or state governments. But within that land that’s owned by federal or state government, there are individuals who have had vested rights of that property. And so in order to do this, you have to remove the vested rights of people who have been taking care of that land since about 1900, since the land office was created because the Department of Interior and the Bureau of Land Management was originally the land office. So you’re going to eliminate somebody else’s rights. And in many cases, that’ll be tribes that you’re going to do that to. And what is most interesting is somebody sent me just this week, not knowing that you and I were going to talk about this, they sent me a clip of Donald Trump before the election talking about freedom cities. And it’s not too hard to see where he’s talking about freedom cities being 15-minute cities. And the whole concept, and then he went into this little diatribe about we’re going to take the Bureau of Land Management land, and then last week the Doug Burgum – He said that we’re going to use this underutilized land to build new systems and signed an agreement with the housing director. And I’m like, where are you going to go do this? Are you going to go to the southeast Utah and a reservation land and build cities? I was in Detroit, and I used to go to Michigan once a month and did a TV show for Michigan corn growers. There are 40 square miles of vacant buildings in Detroit. Why are we going to abandon a place where we could fix it up and go into a resource where we should be recovering a resource, whether that be oil, maybe it’s just grazing, maybe it’s land that’s utilized for wildlife habitat, whatever the case may be, and build cities?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, the reason Detroit is where Detroit is, is because of the government that has been controlling Detroit for all of these years. And so I think in that is and Democrats have run Detroit into the ground. We’ve got Democrats that are running Denver into the ground as well. And so one of the things, though, Trent, is they are reducing – when I say they, that’s PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties. They have reduced the supply for single-family homes, increased demand through illegal immigration. And it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that housing gets unaffordable when that happens. And so it seems to me by expanding the options to build additional home ownership is great. Now, I had not connected the dot with that these would be 15-minute or smart cities. And anybody that listens to the show knows that I think smart cities are a dumb idea. And so certainly I would not support something like that, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I think you should go research what he’s been yakking about in terms of freedom cities, because it is a smart city. He’s even talking about a city without vehicles.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, well, I’m going to have to look at that because one of our listeners said, we need a renewed Homestead Act. The government should not own all of this land. And so I do like that because, as you know, I spend a lot of time up in western Wyoming. And as you drive in from the airport from Jackson into Jackson, there are acres and acres and acres of for the elk refuge i’m not sure they have to have all of those acres for the elk refuge that they could actually maybe use some of that acreage because jackson’s always talking about affordable housing there’s a difference between affordable housing which is government controlled housing and housing that is affordable and if they opened up some land for some new development i think they could have some affordable housing and land for the elk refuge but instead Wildlife trumps everything regarding human life from what I can see in that scenario, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 05 :
And yet our wildlife is struggling like it’s never struggled before because we have a government that doesn’t manage their land. And by the way, I agree it’s unconstitutional for the government to own land. But to turn this land into smart cities is not something I embrace. I embrace the people who have been managing this land and have invested right in the resources in this land. They should have the first option to purchase it.
SPEAKER 15 :
You and I totally agree. As you know, I’m also a big proponent of individual rights, property rights, and I would never support coming in and usurping those rights for this as well. But there’s a lot of land out there that I think that we could get this figured out. So let’s continue the discussion. And we mentioned wildlife, and I talked with Kevin Lundberg about this yesterday. But one of the Colorado wolves actually was killed legally and properly 400 miles into Wyoming by authorities. And apparently, Trent Luce, these wolves cannot read a map. So we’re going to talk with him about that. When we come back, these discussions happen because of our sponsors. If you’ve been injured, make sure you reach out to John Bozen and Bozen Law.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. and did want to mention the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo, Colorado, on the beautiful Riverwalk, and they do amazing work. I was down there emceeing an event last Thursday. It was an On Values presentation with Dr. Walt Larimore regarding his father, a World War II hero, and the book that Dr. Larimore had written about his father at First Light. You can Access that by going to their website. That is AmericanValueCenter.org. AmericanValueCenter.org. Trent Luce is on the line with me. Trent, I mentioned Teddy Roosevelt and then Teddy Roosevelt Jr. And he was 56. He was D-Day leading troops. And This is from Wikipedia, but it says, after serving in the Operation Torch landings in North Africa and the Tunisia campaign, followed by participation in the Allied invasion of Sicily, Roosevelt was assigned as assistant division commander of the 4th Infantry Division. In this role, he led the first wave of troops ashore at Utah Beach during the Normandy landings in June 1944. He died in France of a heart attack the following month at 56 years old. At the time of his death, he had been recommended for the Distinguished Service Cross to recognize his heroism at Normandy. The recommendation was subsequently upgraded, and he was posthumously the recipient of the Medal of Honor. And again, like you, I didn’t know anything about him until I’d gone to Normandy, so I just wanted to clarify that regarding Teddy Roosevelt Jr.,
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s interesting that he died of a heart attack because of what he experienced a month previous, obviously.
SPEAKER 15 :
I know. It’s fascinating.
SPEAKER 05 :
His father wasn’t a specimen of health either. That was one thing. The family must have been plagued by some health challenges.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, that does happen. So that’s why it’s important to take your vitamins, take care of yourself. That’s my mom-ism right there. Let’s talk a little bit about wolves. Apparently, these Colorado wolves cannot read a map, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I actually talked to Tim Rashard up at Kremlin again this week, and I’m really intrigued because I was just about 40 miles north of me, not far from Arnold, Nebraska. We’re putting it on the map today. Over there at Comstock, I think Comstock’s quite a bit smaller than Arnold because Comstock’s maybe got 250 people. But there’s a gentleman, Larry Council, who told me that there’s been wolf sightings around Comstock and Sargent and that area right there in the Sandhills of Nebraska. And then five years ago, Wade Dearmon at Rose, Nebraska, which has a population of zero currently, he actually shot and killed a wolf on his property. So that can only be coming from what is taking place not only in Colorado, but in Wyoming. And anybody who understands normal animal behavior, those young males get kicked out of the of the ban because, you know, that’s what males do. They kick the weak ones out and they go call them satellite males. They go off trying to find a new girlfriend. And so who knows how far they travel, but this will have implications to people beyond just the live at Kremlin, Colorado. You’re absolutely right.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and I’ve talked to some people that have said, but wolves have been always part of the ecosystem. So they think it’s a good idea to introduce them back in. What do you say to that?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, we eliminated them because they are a vicious predator. And if you talk to the folks who are wildlife enthusiasts and elk hunters themselves, or want to go into the Rockies or go into, take Nevada. This is a great example. It ties into the whole Bureau of Land Management. The state of Nevada is 87% owned by government, either federal or state government, 87% of the entire state. And there is no control over predators, and predators are decimating the deer population, decimating the elk population. I got a friend that is an outfitter, hunts, does guided hunts in the Ruby Mountains at Lamoille, Nevada, and they’re just frustrated more times than not. If people want to come and hunt mountain lions, you can do it all day because the mountain lions are getting preferential treatment. The predators are getting preferential treatment, and that is where you have to draw the line. You can’t give a predator preferential treatment.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and I mentioned the elk refuge up near Jackson, Wyoming. I find it so interesting that there are those that want to have a refuge for elk, but yet you’re introducing predators in that kill the elk. I’m not quite sure how those two things match up.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, really all it’s doing is keeping other people from utilizing those resources.
SPEAKER 15 :
My point exactly.
SPEAKER 05 :
You can’t graze it. You can’t utilize the resource that’s there.
SPEAKER 15 :
Or land for housing that’s affordable. Just a little bit. If we start to create more supply, then we start to address that demand. And as one of our listeners said, the only way to make housing more affordable is to create more buildable lots. One cannot argue with supply and demand. Why is that land?
SPEAKER 05 :
28.4% owned by the federal government. And in the case of the Bureau of Land Management, why is that land still owned by the government?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, you have used the word Bureau of Land Management. So is that really the appropriate way for this land? I don’t think the government should be owning land. I agree with you.
SPEAKER 05 :
But why is it owned by the government now?
SPEAKER 15 :
I don’t know why.
SPEAKER 05 :
Because during the Homestead Act, nobody wanted it. It’s land that has very limited, if any, water resources. The best case scenario, Las Vegas, is in the middle of a desert. The biggest challenge to Las Vegas and their development is now water. And I know ranchers 300 miles away who are losing their water rights on the Bureau of Land Management land that they run on and they are taking care of and have for generations. Because Las Vegas is the commercial urbanization and the demand for water is outpacing the resource that’s readily available. Most of the Bureau of Land Management land, this is a generalization but it’s true in most cases, is a place where you cannot build houses and increase the urbanization because the water resources are not there.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and if that’s the case, certainly that makes sense. But, well, two things. We had talked earlier in the show about us being creators. And I think if we really unleash creativity and innovation, we could actually… fix some of these issues. So for example, California, the Colorado River, with the water pack with all of these western states, says that there’s a certain amount of water that has to go down the Colorado River to California. Well, how about if California solves their water problems by going to the Pacific Ocean and doing some desalination, decreasing their demand, which would allow then more water upstream to be used for all of us. I just think a little creativity and innovation might be a great idea on this. Trent, I’m throwing that out there, and you’ve got a minute.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I think that we have places that can contribute to our housing issues. We just need some innovation and creativity in fixing those up instead of abandoning them and going and creating more concrete condos for consumers because that will not be beneficial to anybody.
SPEAKER 15 :
Thank you, Trent Luce. This is a good-spirited discussion.
SPEAKER 05 :
Always a pleasure.
SPEAKER 15 :
It is. And how can people find you?
SPEAKER 05 :
Go to trentluce.substack.com or, as you said, Lucetalesmedia. And you’re going to want to find this show, Trent on the Loose, today. Just search Trent on the Loose, March 25. I know it’s not today, but that’s the day on the show.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, and Loose is spelled L-O-O-S. Trent Loose, it’s always great. We’ll talk to you next week.
SPEAKER 05 :
Happy birthday, Libby Loose, 27.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, happy birthday, Libby. Love that. And our quote for the end of the show is from Johann Wolfgang von Goethe. And he said this to the world, you might be one person, but to one person, you might be the world. Kindness is the golden chain by which our world is bound together. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. We’ll be back tomorrow.
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