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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
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Indeed, let’s have a conversation. And welcome to The Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team that I work with, Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Wednesday, Producer Joe. Happy Wednesday, Kim. And if it is Wednesday, that means it’s Wings Day at Hooters Restaurants. And you buy 20 wings. You get an additional 10 for free. That’s for to-go or to dine-in. And the locations are Loveland, Westminster, and here in Aurora on Parker Road. And so be sure and check that out. Of course, football season, I guess we’re preseason, coming into regular season. Great place to watch all the games is Hooters Restaurants. How I got to know them, it’s an important story about freedom and free markets and capitalism and those PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties that want to control our lives. So be sure and check that out. As you know, We search for truth and clarity by examining these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it’s not compassionate, and it’s not altruistic to take other people’s stuff, whether or not it’s their rights, their property, freedom, livelihoods, opportunity, childhoods, or lives via force. And force can obviously be a weapon, but the sneaky ones are policy. And unpredictable and excessive taxation. And fear, coercion, government-induced inflation. The agenda of the World Economic Forum and the globalist elites that we’ve seen play out at the United Nations. But we see it’s the Colorado State Legislature with this Colorado governor. but we also see it playing out now in our local and county governments as well. And so we need to be electing people that understand this issue of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. We need to be engaged with those people, helping with conversations, and we need to be supporting people to believe in the proper role of government which that is is to protect our individual rights and so that is why we do this show is to help you get your brain around these issues because they are so important we focus on the issues on the show and we’ll mention the people pushing those issues but we really work to stay out of the back and forth fighting that can happen out there so again it’s so great to have you i wanted to say thank you to laramie energy for their gold sponsorship of the show because it is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant power from naturally occurring hydrocarbons such as oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate. Our word of the day is endemic, and Eric always likes me to spell that out. It’s E-N-D-E-M-I-C, and it’s an adjective. The first definition is prevalent in or limited to a particular locality, region, or people. Number two, native to or limited to a certain region. Or number three, common in or inherent to an enterprise or situation. And I would say it is endemic of the radical activists that have taken over the Democrat Party. This is not the Democrat Party of your grandpa and your grandma or JFK. This has been taken over by radical activists and it’s endemic upon them. that they want to have complete power and control over people’s lives. So your challenge is to use the word of the day in a sentence, and you should be able to do that. It’s a pretty good word, endemic. Our quote of the day, I went to Francis Bacon. He was born in 1561. He died in 1626. He was an English philosopher and statesman who served as Attorney General and Lord Chancellor of England under King James I. He argued for the importance of natural philosophy, guided by the scientific method, and his works remained influential throughout the scientific revolution. And he also influenced our founders significantly. He said this. He said, “‘Begin doing what you want to do now.'” We are not living in eternity. We have only this moment, sparkling like a star in our hand and melting like a snowflake. And so that is our quote of the day from Francis Bacon. Next thing, a couple of headlines. First of all, We must continue to encourage the Jefferson County commissioners to encourage the Jefferson County Planning and Zoning Departments to give a variance to Et Voila! French Bakery, which is located on Lookout Mountain, because it seems like this is, it hasn’t happened yet. I’ll just put it that way. And I find it just a real – I think the word’s dichotomy – that we have these PBIs, and it’s really under control. But they say that they want to have people – live where they work, to live in tiny homes, to not commute as much. And that is exactly what this little French bakery is doing. Now, bear in mind, they pay property taxes. They’re generating sales taxes for Jefferson County. And And I was just trying to find the change.org French bakery here, and it’s not coming up. So hold on just a second. I wanted to see where we were on our petition as well. Because hold on here. I should have had this right here. There we go. And so these PPIs opine that they want people to live where they work. They want to reduce commutes and congestion. And, guys, here’s this little French bakery. It’s creating sales tax for Jefferson County. It pays property tax. Bear in mind, they have to get up and start baking at 1 o’clock for their 7 a.m. open. And bear in mind that, gosh, it’s not coming up here. I’m going to have to check some more. That Lookout Mountain Road is closed during the winter at night. So how are they supposed to get there in time to bake for a 7 a.m. open if the road’s closed? Now, come on, Jefferson County commissioners. Let’s figure out a solution here for these people that have put their life savings into this business. And so sign the petition at change.org for Et Voila French Bakery. And in our newsletter this last week, we had all of the emails posted. for the Jefferson County Commissioners, I would recommend that you email them and ask for a variance. You’ll get a carbon copy return, but at least they know that you are watching. Next thing, have you been watching this whole Cracker Barrel thing? This is crazy. Have you watched this, Producer Joe?
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Yeah, I’ve seen a little bit about it. I think it was time for something like this to happen, and they definitely got some bad backlash.
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Well, and if you haven’t been watching, what happened is Cracker Barrel apparently decided to go woke. And Cracker Barrel changed their logo. I guess during a Pride week, they would have rainbow rockers out on their front porches. But I think it was the changing of the logo that really got them excited. got people focused on what was happening over at Cracker Barrel. So what they were doing is, apparently there was, well, they just changed the logo from a guy in a rocker and a barrel to just say Cracker Barrel, just got rid of their branding of all these years. And the backlash was significant. The stock lost about, I guess, $100 million in value within a day, basically. President Trump came out and recommended that they go back to their previous logo. And I don’t know if that’s what affected it as well, but they did. And within basically almost 48 hours, I would say, things changed. And so I pull this up from this is crackerbarrel.com. It says, it’s a message. We thank our guests for sharing your voices and love for Cracker Barrel. We said we would listen, and we have. Our new logo is going away, and our old timer will remain. At Cracker Barrel, it’s always been and always will be about serving up delicious food, warm welcomes, and the kind of country hospitality that feels like family. As a proud American institution, our 70,000 hardworking employees look forward to welcoming you to our table soon. I think they might have looked at what happened at Bud Light and said, okay, we better get this thing changed and quickly. And they did. And so woke is out of style. And yesterday we talked about some of those words that are out of style. And so pretty amazing on what happened with all that. I did want to mention the Center for American Values. They have a lot coming up here in September. I can’t believe that Labor Day is right around the corner, but it is. Check out their website. That’s AmericanValueCenter.org. They will be having a very, very nice event on 9-11. They’re doing an education program for secondary educators later in July. Not July. Gosh. In September. In September. And then they will have an On Values presentation in October. Let’s see. Oh, and then be sure and check out Drew Dix’s podcast, Words from the Silo. He is a co-founder of the center. He’s a Medal of Honor recipient. And he’s got amazing perspective because he has a lot of amazing life experiences. And it’s important. There’s so much. out there he’d need to have trusted sources and uh… we here at the command to show and want to be a trusted source for you as you kick the tires on all these ideas i would recommend that you add in true dix’s podcast as well and tell your friends and family about this uh… actually the show is is helping people change hearts and minds because i think all of us the big broad middle of america We want to live in liberty, the responsible exercise of freedom. And no matter what your descriptor is, I think that that’s where we need to come down. And remember, if we give different groups special rights, there can’t be equal rights. And it’s inherently Marxist and communistic to put people into groups, and then their goal is to pit the groups against each other instead of recognizing the value of each and every individual, which that is inherent in the American idea. So you can see how those two things don’t match up. And there’s a big battle going on right now, obviously, over in New York City with the very real possibility that an avowed communist is going to become mayor. and it’s because of ranked choice voting just a quick note we took a strong stand against ranked choice voting uh last year in our voters guide uh outspent uh basically 14 million dollars to zero and uh well i would say there was a little bit of money i guess that was was put into some campaigns but we we basically uh we weren’t paid to take that position we knew it was the right position to make to take and that was defeated So that’s why we really appreciate all of your support and our great sponsors, such as the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team. And Roger and his team want you to feel safe and well-served and to understand your insurance coverage. In fact, he’s coming in later today, and we’re going to go over mine. Their office will respond to your caller text 24 hours a day. So for that 24-hour peace of mind, call Roger Mangan now at 303-795-8855. Like a good neighbor, Roger Mangan’s team is there.
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There’s so much noise coming at us. Sometimes it is difficult to make sense of it all. How can you sift through the clamor for your attention and get to the truth? The Kim Munson Show is here to help. Kim searches for truth and clarity by examining issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Tune in to the Kim Munson Show each weekday, 6 to 8 a.m. with encores 1 to 2 p.m. and 10 to 11 p.m. on KimMunson. KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM. The KLZ website, the KLZ app, and Alexa. Play KLZ. Shows can also be found at KimMunson.com, Spotify, and iTunes.
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Good morning, Kim. How are you?
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Good. But first of all, I know where you will be on Saturday, August 30th.
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Yes, I will be volunteering and working on stage management for the Mile High Wing Summer Concert Series, basically the commemorative Air Force Mile High chapter, which is run out of Rocky Mountain Metro Airport, is doing our third concert. Last year we did one in September, and then we have one this past June, and now we’re going to have the Petty Nicks Experience and Sons of Genesis come on up, as well as Tunnels to Towers, and they’re going to be talking about their new project in downtown Denver.
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Okay, and this, people, so does it have like a kind of a World War II theme or what?
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Yes, absolutely. The Commemorative Air Force has got 175 aircraft, I believe, at this time, and it’s primarily World War II aircraft. It’s just a great piece of living history. Everybody, they’re dedicated to keeping these machines running and to keep that history alive.
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And so people do dress up in vintage clothes as well, yes?
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I haven’t seen that at these concerts, but there are events like the 1940s Ball and things like that that certain organizations do. But this is just basically just a kind of a picnic slash rock show out on the tarmac.
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Okay. And people can get tickets for that by going to 1943events.com. That’s 1943events.com. So let’s get over to something serious, Mike Rolick. You wanted to talk about the Globe Park development. So set this up for us.
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All right, sounds good. The Glow Park development is an interesting situation going on next to NREL near South Table Mountain. And specifically, it kind of brings up a larger kind of question for public-private partnerships, 99-year leases from the state to developers, and really if we should be having housing at all on state-owned land. But the Glow Park, in specifics, is 9.27 acres right at that research campus area for NREL. And there was a land swap that was done about three, four years ago, it looks like. And Jefferson County Open Space had swapped the land with the state, and the feds were involved as well. And what happened, the state of Procedure County, Department of Energy, and the state, sorry, and then Jefferson County Open Space, they gave a large portion to Jefferson County Open Space on South Table, 160 acres. And then the state got the 9.27 acres. And the Department of Energy got a promise that the state would pursue a public-private partnership to build a research facility for renewable energy. Since then, the state has found nobody who wants to come up and pay about $120 million for that public-private partnership to do the renewable energy. So now the state is pivoting and saying, well, why don’t we put housing there instead? And they’re looking at pretty high-density housing, in fact. They’re looking at almost up to eight stories of housing in certain iterations and up to 40 DU per acre. Forty.
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40 what per acre?
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DU, sorry, dwelling units or homes per acre. So it’s a pretty high-density situation. I’ve been talking with Adrian Waller. He’s the board president of the Pleasant View Metropolitan District. They provide fire and park services to 5,000 residents, 2,400 homes, and still a few businesses as well. So he was kind of giving me the background on what was going on there because he’s been involved since the ground floor with the land swap as well because he’s part of the Metro District.
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Okay, so why are you concerned about this? Is it because the neighbors, the density? Give me a little bit more information about that, Mike.
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Sure. To me, yeah, it becomes an interesting situation because the state is allowed to circumvent the normal rezoning process. Basically, they own the land, and they’re able then to then decide what they want to do with the land instead of going through a normal rezoning process which would be a full hearing by the board of county commissioners or if you’re in a city right there city council this would just go in front of the planning commission as what they call a location and extent process um and any decision the county comes up with is overridable by the state so even if the people come out and and and they go to the hearing and the planning commission says This is not right for us. The state can say, well, we can do it anyway. And that was actually discussed during the August 5th meeting. Lou Cordova, she’s part of the state. She is an advisor to the governor, and she’s working on this project. And part of the message was, While she was saying that if the community doesn’t want this project, the state wouldn’t push too hard, she did make sure she said that the county would have 30 days to approve or disapprove this project via the location extent process. And then the state can say, thank you very much. We’re going to do it anyway. She says, we don’t do that, but we could, and you should be aware of that. So it’s an interesting situation when you have a state saying, well, we own the land and we can circumvent local planning, local rezoning.
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local rules in general just because we own the land okay and so back me up here how the state got the land though it was a land swap so correct and this happened a few years ago so the people that live there thought that the land that land was going to be either open space or this renewable energy project yes
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Yes, that would be correct. And so that was the original intent, and now it’s become a potential housing project.
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And how that happened, though, was the state and Jefferson County, and you said the feds were involved, they swapped that land. So Jefferson County got 160 acres, and the state got this land. And again, the neighbors thought that that was either going to be open space or this renewable facility. Now they’re looking at potentially eight-story apartment buildings.
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That’s correct, yes. So, obviously, the land swap was something where they thought it was going to be one thing, and then instead of waiting to find the correct fit for a contractor who wants to come in and do the research facility, they say, okay, well, how about we do housing instead? And it kind of feels like a big switch up here. A switcheroo, yeah. Yes, there’s a law… 21-1274, where they talk about how the state can use unused property for affordable housing. But this property is targeting what they call attainable housing, which is quite different than affordable. They’re looking at 80% to 120% of the AMI. When I looked at Colorado overall, quick search showed for the past several years, we’re looking at an AMI of $92,470. So your median income for the state adjusted is almost $93,000. So 80% to 120%, you’re looking at $73,400 up to $110,900. And that’s the household income, is that right? Yes. Yes, exactly. So it’s interesting to me that we have to kind of roll the red carpet out for people who are making up to six figures when the actual law talks about affordable housing, which would be the under 80% mark. So…
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And let’s just make sure people understand the word affordable housing actually means subsidized housing, which actually means government housing, government subsidized housing. People need to understand that’s what affordable housing is. And subsidizing means that somebody’s getting something, but somebody else, it’s being taken from somebody else. We need to make sure that people understand that.
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Correct. And I look at the slippage of terms where the law in several spots says affordable housing, but this project would be attainable housing. And when you look at the state website for the unused property section, all it says is cheaper housing. So also the accuracy in terms kind of starts slipping. And again, you know, that gives me a kind of a pause. We could talk about affordable housing at a different process, different time, but now we’re talking attainable on this land switcheroo, and you’re talking folks that make up to $110,000 per year or families. So it just seems like, why are we doing a 99-year ground lease and finding a contractor who would pay the state for folks that have six figures. None of it seems to make sense to me. And I think the biggest chilling thing is when you really look into location and extent process, when the state owns the land and the state is conferred a power by the General Assembly, they’re able to use this quick process to circumvent the normal rezoning. I know when we had that big talk about can zoning be protective of freedom or not, I think this would be a time where a zoning process would be a whole lot more protective than this flimsy location and extent process where the state can say, well, we don’t like the results and we can do what we want anyway. And I think that’s a real big problem that needs to get looked at at the state level should the state be able to call its own shots, even if the local jurisdiction says, no, we’d rather not have this.
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Wow, this is, yeah, this is a big deal. Gosh, okay. It’s complicated. But public-private partnerships are complicated. And they’re very cozy. Public-private partnerships, you shouldn’t have government and business getting into bed with each other on these deals. And that’s just not what is supposed to happen. But that sounds like that is what it is. is happening but I find that so interesting Jefferson counties they’re do they did that land swap and moving things around but yet this little French bakery up on lookout Mountain they won’t give them a variant so that they can live where they work I find it crazy Mike Mike raw like your final thought uh well the final thought is it doesn’t seem like the county commissioners are in tune with this project either from some of the questions they had on August 5th um
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it’s more of a are our hands tied or not because first of all the border county commissioners won’t be able to vote in a location and extend process it’s only the planning commission and then they ask a lot of questions about the what if the planning commission says no and like i said luke cordova said that they wouldn’t do it but the state can say thank you very much we’re going to do it anyway and that’s that’s actually on the video from august 5th um so it’s kind of weird messaging to say, don’t worry, we would never do that. However, yet we can. So just be aware of that. You just don’t want that hanging over your head when you’re trying to make a policy decision, in my mind, where the big gorilla in the room, so to speak, can just say, well, we’re just going to ignore what you came up with.
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Wow. This is really important. Mike, I really appreciate you being a watchdog. And we’re going to be talking with you every Wednesday regarding things that are going on that you’re keeping an eye out on. So, Mike Rolick, thank you so much. Keep up the great work.
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Thank you, Kim. Have a great day. Bye-bye.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And do check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation. That is USMCMemorialFoundation.org. And they’ve got a 5K at Arvada’s Apex Center on September 20th. And you can register by going to USMCMemorialFoundation.org. That is USMCMemorialFoundation.org. And on the line with us is Dr. Jill Vecchio. She is one of the few people that read the complete Obama Unaffordable Care Act, and she understands the danger, danger of centralized medicine. So we want to talk about how we could decentralize medicine. Welcome, Dr. Jill Vecchio. Hello, Kim. It’s good to be on with you all and your wonderful audience as always. Well, great to have you. I can’t believe it’s been a month since we talked with each other on air. But what should people know about centralized medicine and decentralizing it?
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You know, we talked a few shows, and I don’t expect everybody to remember everything we talked about. And it has been kind of spaced out. But we talked about how kind of really so much of medicine, medical decision-making, reimbursement, is all really driven by Medicare, which is the, you know, ultimate, the VA hospital. Medicare, Medicaid are all government-run, centralized forms of health care services. delivery, we’ll say, or at least payment. But the delivery and the payment are so intimately intertwined, right? And I don’t think people understand it. I don’t know if we’ve talked about the reimbursement system of what kind of different models of reimbursement. We talked about managed care last time, where there’s one chunk of money you pay, like a certain amount of money to belong to, say, Kaiser. And then they have, so they have a whole bunch of patients and one pot of money, and all the doctors, all the laboratories, all the hospital services, and the patients are all kind of scrambling to get their piece of that one, that pie that is only a single size. Versus, and then there’s a thing called fee for service. And really, Medicare kind of runs on a fee for service, we call it, so that if you get an x-ray, you get the government or Medicare, whoever administers that Medicare program for you, that doctor, that hospital, that imaging facility or that laboratory, whatever, they get paid for that one test. You know, you get a urinalysis, they get paid for that, a certain amount of money. And then didn’t you have the direct primary care program? which is a very different model. Are you with me so far? Am I making sense? I think so. Okay, great. Okay, so the direct primary care is a totally different model. So direct primary care, and this is like for family medicine or internal medicine docs, it’s becoming more and more popular with people. That model, you pay what is called a membership fee. It’s not insurance, but you pay like they’re a group, let’s say they’re a group of internal medicine family practice docs, many of whom… are double boarded in family medicine, internal medicine, and like emergency medicine. So they may even have a little urgent care clinic as part of their business practice. So you pay a membership, like maybe a couple hundred bucks a month. A lot of those are even less than that per person per month. Think of what you pay. People are paying like $1,600, $2,000 a month. for one person’s insurance or two people’s insurance so vastly different costs they don’t work these doctors offices do not work with any insurance and they do not work with medicare but you have a membership and it’s like a health club like you can go into that club as many times as you want you can have as many uh doctor visits they can they see fewer patients you get in quicker you get much more attention from the physician And then these offices have special arrangements with laboratories and imaging places so that they, like a lab test at UA, maybe $120 for somebody with private insurance. That’s what their insurance gets paid or will reimburse or something. But this direct primary care practice, it’s like $4. When that goes into the charges versus prices thing, right? So… They’re totally different business models.
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It sounds very attractive. It seems to me, though, that the big insurance companies will not want to have people have this option of direct primary care.
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Well, yeah. And it certainly puts a dinger on their stuff. Yeah. on their networking and their reimbursements. And the weird thing is, this direct primary care practice model is really perfect for elderly people, people with chronic health care issues, people who don’t have insurance, can’t afford regular insurance, and And have especially like high-risk pool people. They talk about, oh, let’s have a high-risk pool. No, send them direct primary care. They get better attention. They’ve been proven to have fewer ER visits and hospital visits because they get more personalized attention and care. not dependent on some little matrix or some little metrics that these corporate hospital groups and government health care put on physicians. So the docs have a lot more flexibility in what they’re able to do with the patients, what they can prescribe, what tests they can order, how they want to deal with chronic illness and multiple, the interaction of multiple medical issues. So the elderly… would benefit a great deal from this direct primary care, but because of our centralized system, Medicare patients, I could do direct primary care now that I’m on Medicare. I could, but I’d be paying all of my Medicare stuff and the membership on top of it. The government at this point will not allow Medicare funds to be used to pay a direct primary care membership. To me, that’s like It’s a no-brainer. This is ridiculous. What are you guys thinking? They’re board-certified physicians. What’s the problem? It’s just a matter of, I think a part of it is a matter of bureaucracy. Obviously, they’re not a secret. People know that they’re out there, and somebody decided to make a regulation or some kind of a rule that says that the funds can’t be used to pay direct primary care. Why not?
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That’s the big question. But on this direct primary care, and we’ve had conversations about this, but if people have not heard those conversations, what about something catastrophic, though? Let’s say that somebody gets something catastrophic.
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Right, or you need a colonoscopy, or maybe you’re having chest pain, you need some advanced, maybe a cardiac catheterization. A lot of these direct primary care practices have relationships just like every network does, right? Every insurance company, every Kaiser and all that stuff, they have certain docs that they know and work with or contract with. The direct primary care docs say, you know, a lot of times they’ll say, you know, I know this guy. He will give my patients a special cash price discount that is incredibly reasonable, right? Now, why can’t that happen? Why isn’t that happening more and more all over the place? It’s just because so few. It’s like the 80-20 rule, right? 80% of everybody in the system is so locked into the system, they don’t even want to consider that there’s anything else. Anything, any alternative scares them. They don’t want it, right? And I would say even like the 5% or 10% that are kind of like, yeah, let’s embrace something different because this system isn’t working. you know, every system, every structure kind of goes through these pendulum swings of, yeah, you know, it may have started out, Medicare may have started out great, but, you know, the beast has turned into like the picture of Dorian Gray, to mix my metaphors or whatever, but, you know, it’s like a picture of Dorian Gray where his face just starts to melt and everything else, and that’s kind of where we are. We are at the the end of the Dorian Gray portrait. Does anybody even know what I’m talking about? No.
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Well, you’ve given us the visual on that. So, Jill, I have other questions. The next question really is going to be the political will to do something about this. So we’re going to keep that as our cliffhanger. And these are important discussions to understand this. And the other thing I think is people are concerned about medical bankruptcy. So those two questions, we want to talk about that. And I think that… The centralized model is what’s created such a problem on that. So we’re going to continue the discussion with Dr. Joe Vecchio. But for everything regarding mortgages, reach out to Lorne Levy.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Check out the website. That’s Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. All kinds of great information there. On the line with me is Dr. Jill Vecchio. She is one of the few people in America that read the complete Obamacare Unaffordable Care Act. She was out there on the stump. That’s how I got to know her, explaining the danger, danger of centralized medicine. And I learned this from Dr. Jill. She said, when government gets involved… The quality goes down. The price goes up, the quality goes down, and the supply becomes limited. And that happens with health care. So first thing, this direct primary care practices, they sound so attractive. However, people on Medicare, if they wanted to access that… they would not only have to pay all their Medicare premiums and all that, they’d have to also pay for the managed care membership, which, gosh, there seems like there should be political will to change that. But I think one of the questions people have this fear, which has been, I think that’s how Obamacare got passed, was using fear of medical bankruptcy if you got something really bad. And, you know, that the bills were so exorbitant. People are fearful of that, Dr. Jill.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. Well, of course. And that’s why we talked about the catastrophic policies. It’s the way it used to be. You know, all the things that I’m talking about are really kind of going back in time to when we had major medical policies. We paid cash for most of our Health care and the costs were not ridiculously high, these charge versus price things. We don’t have to go into that again because I think we’ve gone into that. We can keep visiting it over and over, but we don’t need to do it right now. But it’s kind of like that’s what it used to be. You used to have a catastrophic policy. And then once you chose your doctor, you paid the doctor directly. They didn’t have all this billing, coding. All of these electronic health record, stupid reporting requirements, all of this stuff, the bureaucracy, everything has gotten so bloated. All the rules, everything has gotten so bloated, so difficult, so complicated. The pendulum needs to swing back to more simplicity. And the way to do that is to get rid of all of these third-party payers that are standing between the doctors, the providers, and the patients. The problem is, obviously, so many of the corporate health care now owns the doctors, and it’s becoming more of a bloated system all the time.
SPEAKER 19 :
And these third-party organizations probably have big lobbying efforts on Capitol Hill. And that’s why there’s not the political will to fix this problem, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, but when you think about it, honestly, Medicare… There’s not that much legislation that has been passed in Medicare that has changed it drastically since it was formed. Medicare has turned into what it is and has grown to the size it is, has the power that it has over the entire system because of the bureaucracy, through the bureaucracy. It’s like Obamacare, right? Obamacare, 2,700 pages. It wasn’t just the legislation that caused so many problems in Obamacare. It was how the legislation was interpreted, the rules and regulations that were established because the bureaucracy was given the authority to interpret the legislation and make whatever rules they wanted with the force of law. That’s the problem. Government legislation doesn’t even – I mean, you could get rid of so much of this. You could change – you could make so many great changes in Medicare, and we can keep talking about this because Medicare has so much power. Understand, if you change Medicare and Medicaid, you will change the whole – you can change the whole system pretty quickly. And so – and you can do that through the bureaucracy. You know, you ruined it through the bureaucracy. Now we got, hopefully we have good people in there. RFK Jr.’ ‘s focus, you know, he was an environmental lawyer. And so he’s all about the toxins and, you know, the toxins in the vaccines, what the vaccines are doing, toxins in our food, you know, all this stuff. You know, fluoride in water, whatever, chemtrails, I don’t know, whatever he’s talking about. But his focus isn’t necessarily on the policy of fixing this insanely expensive broken system. I think in a lot of ways people kind of gave up on it because nobody had a set of good enough ideas that had a big enough voice, right? But the bureaucracy has ruined this thing. If you get the right people in charge of the bureaucracy and you can weed out The big bureaucrats, you know, the ones that have been there forever that love Obamacare and wrote most of this crap in Obamacare and all the regulation and everything else. Get them the heck out of there and get in some people who want some real reforms. You can fix it through the bureaucracy itself. And you want to talk about a bloated bureaucracy. Let me give you some numbers here. So, yeah, Department of Health and Human Services has 91,000 employees. When you look up organizational structure of HHS, just the organizational structure chart and description, 80 pages online. 80 website pages just on the diagram of the structure of HHS. Most of this is regulation, billing, enforcing regulations, billing and coding. It’s crazy. Now, if you got rid of billing coding and pared down a bunch of these ridiculous regulations because now you can decentralize stuff. Can you imagine? I mean, you can slim down this thing in a heartbeat. Nine hundred and twenty three different offices around the country.
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923. Now, this is a question. We pretty well know the answer to that. Out of those 923 offices around the country, how many patients are they seeing?
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, no, no. These are bureaucratic offices.
SPEAKER 19 :
No, I know. That was the purpose of my question. Oh, right. Yes, exactly. Right? Yeah. Yeah. It’s not a doctor’s office. Yeah. None. None. Zero. None. Yeah. But there’s all kinds of people being paid on this bureaucracy. Right. Yeah. Okay. So we can fix this. Does anybody have the political will to do it? That’s the question. I do. I know you do. We need to get you into office. I know that… Yeah, absolutely. Because we can fix these problems, but we have to have somebody that can, first of all, message this, just like what you’re doing, Jill. Just walk the public through what is occurring and how it can be fixed. But I think many times PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties, they like to make people think that the problem cannot be fixed. But we can fix this.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think we can definitely fix it. Just have to have the willpower and put the right people in there with the right ideas.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, so then the next question is, is all the people that have gone to school for medical coding and are medical coders, they’re thinking, gosh, I’m going to lose my job. What would you say to that?
SPEAKER 07 :
Your new job can be how to figure out how to post prices for all these different things because you just redirect them for a little bit. And, you know, if we always use that as an excuse not to fix something, it’s pretty sad. Well, it is. America is where it is because we kind of innovate our way out of our own jobs, right? I mean, it’s like you innovate, you create robotics and then these automobile guys find something else to do. And then you have I mean, we have depended so much on this argument of, well, we can’t change anything because that’ll put a bunch of people out of work. Find a new job, find a new purpose in your life. That’s like saying we can’t innovate anything or fix anything because somebody might lose their job. Move on.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, and I think that you’re hitting upon this, and that is the American spirit is creative and it’s innovative. And if we continue to strive to get to the high ideals, to do the very best in these different industries, the sky is the limit because people are going to have more money in their pocket. And so we don’t know what that is exactly out there, but to not fix these challenges, because it just keeps us stuck here and the bureaucracy gets bigger and the care will, the supply will go down. The quality will go down. Well, the supply will be limited. The quality goes down, and the prices go up. So we’ve got to fix these problems. We’ve got a minute left, Dr. Jill. This goes really quickly. Great information. What’s your final thought you’d like to leave with listeners?
SPEAKER 07 :
This is not an impenetrable fortress. Oh, you know what?
SPEAKER 19 :
I have to jump in here. This came in on the text line. Welcome, Mr. Smith went to Washington, so why don’t we have a campaign and have Dr. Jill go to Washington? What do you think, Dr. Jill? Well, I can pay for my ticket. I think they mean like you might go as a rep, as a senator.
SPEAKER 07 :
There you go. Yeah, write your congressman. They won’t answer you. But, yeah, write your congressman, write your senator. Mostly write letters to RFK Jr. and Donald Trump and just, you know, say, hey, you know, there’s this person over here. You need to talk to her. I mean, I went to the White House conference. I met with Price when he was secretary of HHS. And I had some connections in Washington during the first Trump administration. And it was great. And I interviewed for a position for regional director. Well, I’m kind of like regional director just goes around one of the six regions in the country for health care. I had like five states or something. But then I just go around and enact what is already in place. And I’m kind of like, I don’t like what’s in place. I don’t want the responsibility of being some bureaucrat, like some government agent coming around to enforce legislation and and policies that I don’t agree with.
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I want to change the policy. And we’ve got to work on that. Hey, Dr. Jill, we’re out of time. We will have a conversation again next month. As always, thank you. And Francis Bacon said this, it’s not what we profess, but what we practice that gives us integrity. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
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indeed let’s have a conversation and welcome to our number two of the kim munson show thank you so much for joining us you each are treasured your value you have purpose today strive for excellence take care of your heart your soul your mind and your body my friends we were made for this moment in history and thank you to the team that’s producer joe luke rachel zach echo charlie mike theresa amanda and all the people here at crawford broadcasting happy wednesday producer joe happy wednesday kim And I wanted to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant power from naturally occurring hydrocarbons such as oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate. As you know, we examine these issues. We search for truth and clarity by examining these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you shouldn’t have to use force to implement it. And we focus on the issues, not the personalities. And we’ll talk about the people that are pushing the issues because it’s important to connect that particular dot. We are at… We are really, I believe, at the third founding of our country. And 250 years ago, the summer of, well, the year of 1775, a lot was happening, culminating in the Declaration of Independence on July 4th of 1776. And we’ll talk about some of these important things that happened. We’ll talk with Trent Luce in segments two, three, and four. And I know that a lot of you, I get a lot of comments regarding these conversations with Trent Luce. But it’s important that we have them. It’s important that we have conversations with people that see things differently. Because we have to engage in the battle of ideas. We can’t walk away. We have to engage. And so let’s get to our word of the day, which is endemic. It is E-N-D-E-M-I-C. Eric always likes me to spell that, so shout out to Eric there. But it’s, number one, could be prevalent in or limited to a particular locality, region, or people. Number two, it could be native to or limited to a certain region. And number three, it could be common in or inherent to an enterprise or situation. And this Colorado state legislature, which is totally run by Democrats, and this is not the Democrat Party of JFK or your grandpa and your grandma. These are people that want to totally control your lives. They’re radical activists. And so the quest for power, the thirst for power, the insatiable appetite for power, is endemic to this particular Colorado state legislature. And many times we can see it can be endemic to PBIs as well, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties. And the idea that we are giving up, giving power, and when I say we, we elect representatives who are supposed to be our representatives, who are then, through ordinances and legislation, are giving up power power, the decision-making to boards and commissions that are unelected, unaccountable. That is not the way it’s supposed to be happening in America. So again, the word of the day is endemic. Your challenge is to use that in a sentence today. Our quote of the day, I went to Francis Bacon. I had a John Locke quote yesterday. He was very influential upon the founders, his writings were. And Francis Bacon also was. And he was born in 1561. He died in 1626. And he was an English philosopher and statesman. And he said this, “…begin doing what you want to do now. We are not living in eternity. We have only this moment, sparkling like a star in our hand and melting like a snowflake.” This goes to something my dad always said. This is the day the Lord hath made. Let us rejoice and be glad. And that’s why I say each day we strive for excellence. When we strive for excellence, there will be days. Actually, yesterday was a day where things just were difficult. I had picked up something for lunch, and there was a hair in my food. Just little things. It just was a day that things just didn’t… Go smoothly. And there will be days like that. But we continue to have to strive for excellence each and every day. And so we will do that. A couple of things I wanted to mention. Dr. Jill, and she’s really how I ended up on the radio. Because for a while we had a show. It was the Americhicks. And it was on Crawford Broadcasting on KLZ. And we were on Sunday afternoons for two hours, and there were three of us, Jill, Molly, and myself. And Jill and Molly wanted to name us the AmeriChicks. I’m thinking to myself, I’m old enough to be the AmeriHen, but it didn’t have the same ring to it. But we looked at each other and we said, what are we going to talk about? And we were going through the leadership program of the Rockies program at the time, and so we decided to go through the Declaration and the Constitution in the first hour, and in the second hour we talked about Obamacare, health care. And so as Jill was talking today, I was going down memory lane on Obamacare. I couldn’t remember exactly the timeframe, but we talk about many times when there’s legislation or ordinances that could be controversial or The votes are taken on the weekend or a press release that comes out on the weekend because they don’t really want to have people looking at it. So I was trying to go down memory lane. I couldn’t remember, but I thought that Obamacare was passed on Christmas Eve. In 2009, at 7.05 a.m., I’m over on the senate.gov website, and it passed 60 yeas, all Democrats plus Bernie Sanders as an independent, 39 yeas, and one not voting. And so Obamacare was passed, 2,700 pages, creating many, many more pages. of bureaucracies bureaucratic rules and regulations and i got to think that the people that voted on this had not have not did not read it as nancy pelosi famously said you have to pass it so that we can know what’s in it so this is irresponsible for people to be passing our representatives and senators to be passing legislation that they haven’t read and they haven’t thought about the far reaching consequences But those that were pushing Obamacare had been thinking about the far-reaching consequences. So then, during the first Trump administration, there was the vote to repeal Obamacare. And John McCain voted no to repeal Obamacare. And I remember that. And I think I’ll let you just think about the fact that that was during the first Trump administration. McCain didn’t like Trump very much. And I don’t know how all that played into it. But we could have gotten rid of that, and we didn’t. And so now we have got to look to our electeds. and take action because this bureaucratic medical system that we have is really not working. People are afraid of medical bankruptcy, of something bad happens. And, of course, fear is not a good catalyst for decision-making. But I was going back down memory lane. In 2009, when Obamacare was passed, there was an opportunity to repeal it in 2017. We’ve got to have some people that have the political will to actually fix the problem that the government created with these bureaucracies. And no better time than today to start to do that, as Francis Bacon has said. Begin doing what you want to now. We’re not living in eternity. We need to seize this moment and go to work on that. Let’s see. A couple of other things that I wanted to mention was the Center for American Values has a lot of things happening this autumn. They will have an event on 9-11. They’re doing a great program for secondary educators. 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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. There’s all kinds of great information there. But question, if you’ve been craving, or I guess a statement, if you have been craving real New York style pizza and pasta, Little Richie’s and Parker and Golden has you covered. Authentic New York flavor with Colorado roots from daily specials and weekday lunch deals to a happy hour worth planning around. They are your neighborhood favorite, and they’re always serving up something worth stopping for. And in fact, the Little Richie’s in Golden is right near the USMC Memorial. And so every time I’m out there, I always get one of their great calzones. And so be sure and check that out. But also wanted to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation and the great work that they’re doing There will be a 5K race in September. You can get more information by going to their website, and that is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That’s usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And you can take part in that 5K run. That should be a lot of fun. Paula Sarles and her team, Mary, the whole group, the whole board, they’re always working on great new ideas to take care of the memorial and then raising money for the race. So that website is usmcmemorialfoundation.org, usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Trent Luce is on the line, sixth generation farmer and rancher. And Trent, welcome. I’ve got a question for you.
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Well, that’s a fine way to start, Kim. I guess it’s better than, I got something to tell you, Trent. Okay. August 27th, 1776.
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Do you know what happened? No, you got me this time. Okay, this was when George Washington was able to get the Continental Army off of Brooklyn Heights because of fog, of God-given fog, blanketed fog. everything. And they were able to get off of Brooklyn Heights because if the British would have gotten them there and would have captured them there, the whole American idea would have been over. And they didn’t know what was going to happen. And this fog comes in. It was so thick that you could hardly see your hand in front of your face. And so by the time the fog lifted, the Brits were going to attack and the Continental Army was gone.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s a fantastic story. We had a fog like that this past week, which Grandpa says that means that 90 days later we’ll have a big snow.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, we have a fog right now in Denver, so does that mean that we’re going to have a snow in 90 days?
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I can’t speak to Denver, but I would guess that you’re going to have some form of precipitation. But we’ve had two severe fog days in the past seven days, and our wild sunflowers are about 10 feet tall.
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I love those. Yeah. But the old sentiment is… The snow will be as tall as the sunflowers.
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Oh, boy. That’s going to be something. And then they’ll call it global warming or climate change.
SPEAKER 06 :
Exactly. I’m just saying that you might want to have your snow skis ready for Thanksgiving.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. I remember there was one year there was a big, big snow on Thanksgiving, and then sometimes people golf on Thanksgiving in Colorado as well. But I just needed to mention one other thing. Even though when the sun is shining, from a public policy standpoint regarding liberty, Colorado is in a fog 365 days a year.
SPEAKER 06 :
When does the snow occur after that?
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We’ve got an avalanche of bad policy that’s going on out here.
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That’s a true story.
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Okay, let’s first of all jump into last week. And I’ve been ruminating on what to do exactly because I had a woman from Wyoming yesterday. They live 26 miles northwest. They have a ranch, a family ranch. She’s fifth generation. She married into the family. Kids, obviously, are sixth generation ranch. And they had gotten a registered letter. that next to their property there is a 56,000-acre wind farm that is going through the permitting process soon. I’ve been ruminating on what we can do because Brooke Rollins, USDA secretary, said that they were going to stop the money that’s been going into these industrial wind and solar projects. The Trump administration said the tax credits are supposed to go away, I think, in 2026. We need to speed that up. And you were going to go and talk to Brooke Rollins about that in South Dakota last week. What happened?
SPEAKER 06 :
Just as a quick refresher, I know that you have people frustrated with me and what is happening in the Trump administration. And my frustration has been from the get go. What comes out of the rhetoric in D.C. does not match what’s happening on the ground. Last week on Monday in Lebanon, Tennessee, Brooke Rollins, Secretary of Agriculture, said, effective immediately, we are going to stop all wind solar development on farmland. We cannot lose any more farmland. The next day, Tuesday morning, there was a USDA statement to this effect, effective immediately. And then that evening, I got a text from somebody saying, in Dakota County, Nebraska, that the same day that this came out, there was a proposed 3000 acre solar development in farmland next to their property. So you and I talked Wednesday morning and I said, well, it turns out that I’m at Farm Fest And Brooke Rollins is supposed to be here today, and she’s going to lead off a political discussion and what they’re calling a political roundtable. I am going to go up and ask her about this. At 1.30 Wednesday afternoon, I got a phone call, and it said on my phone, Washington, D.C. I thought, well, this is strange. So I answered the phone. Mr. Luce, we just want to let you know that Brooke Rollins is not going to be attending Farm Fest today.
SPEAKER 19 :
Did they say why?
SPEAKER 06 :
No. Canceled. She canceled her trip.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Why did they call me? Why did they call me and say, Mr. Luce, I just want to let you know that Brooke Rollins is not going to be attending Farm Fest today, which, true story. I was at Farm Fest. She was not. There was a political roundtable. Brooke Rollins chose not to be at it. Why did she cancel?
SPEAKER 19 :
I don’t know the answer to that. I do think it’s a courtesy that they call to let you know, though.
SPEAKER 06 :
Why do they call me to let me know?
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, you do make an awful lot of noise, Trent.
SPEAKER 06 :
I do make noise, but it tells me that there was a reason she canceled.
SPEAKER 19 :
You think it was because you were there?
SPEAKER 06 :
I don’t know. I didn’t say that. There’s a reason she canceled. She’s been out and about in a different state every single day. And all of a sudden she just cancels coming to South Dakota.
SPEAKER 19 :
OK, well, let’s happen to be. We have to figure out a plan immediately to to get this rhetoric out. to match up with what is happening on the ground. Immediately, 56,000 acres of, I don’t know if it’s farmland or just ranchland, but I look at both farmland and ranchland. We need to protect both of those. I think they’re basically intertwined, yes?
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, 100%. Absolutely. It doesn’t matter if it’s ranch land or farmland. And if it’s close to Cheyenne, most likely it’s ranch or it’s range.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, probably. 56,000 acres. Can you believe that?
SPEAKER 06 :
I believe it. I get this message every single day. There’s a meeting tonight in Allendale, North Dakota about the same thing. There have been meetings in Eddy County, North Dakota about the same thing. I get a call from some part of the country. I get a call from Quincy, Illinois about the same thing. It happens every single day that I get this call.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. So what can we do? What would be our call to action right now?
SPEAKER 06 :
The call to action is to bring awareness to all people. And still, the answer is that we have not enough people paying attention. Somebody, a landowner, has a problem. They bring it to somebody’s attention, and then they solely go represent and try to stand up and say, no, we cannot continue to sacrifice farmland for unsustainable, intermittent, unaffordable electricity. And that’s exactly what we’re doing. But until we get the massive there was a meeting Thursday night last week where 600 people showed up. That’s when we make a difference. Kiowa County or Kiowa, Colorado, Elbert County. We’ve made a difference because how many people showed up at that meeting? It takes a large force of people to show up.
SPEAKER 19 :
OK. And so what has happened, though, Excel is suing this little county, Elbert County.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s typical. That’s typical.
SPEAKER 19 :
So then what’s our next action?
SPEAKER 06 :
They sue them, and the counties, oh, my goodness, we can’t be sued. Why can’t you be sued? Stand up for the citizens of the county, the landowners of this county that are going to be there time and time again. And so many counties have been afraid to be sued, and the ones who do, more times than not, come out on top because they were willing to stand for the truth.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, and that’s what we have to do is always stand for the truth, stand for property rights. And as you mentioned, that transmission line is to get intermittent, unreliable power ostensibly to the urban areas. The other thing is, is we need to connect this dot for people. They’re saying, well, I live in the urban area. Why does it matter to me? Why it matters is If we don’t stand now, there will be a day that you will go to the grocery store and the food will be so expensive or we may have food shortages. And we remember during COVID when they said, oh, we’re all in this together, but somebody had died. bought up all the toilet paper. We weren’t all in it together. That is why we need to connect this dot now. That’s why we need to stand now. Your final thought on this issue, Trent Luce. We’ll go to break. We’ve got other things to talk about.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, we’re to the point, and this is going to lead into one thing we’re going to talk about today, but we have destroyed, I just remind everybody, 16% of our total electric supply in the United States comes from coal. We have 1,000 years worth of coal. This whole facade of emissions has created a vulnerability in electricity. And now, speaking of Cheyenne, that AI center that was approved in Cheyenne, Wyoming, is going to use one gigawatt of electricity 24-7. That is equivalent to five times the number of households in the entire state of Wyoming.
SPEAKER 19 :
And they want to build more.
SPEAKER 06 :
We cannot continue to allow it. That’s just phase one.
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SPEAKER 06 :
It is a problem, not just because of the screwworm, but because of the cloud surrounding the story. I just searched just now so that I can continue to make this statement, because I did forward to you a joint release between USDA and Health and Human Services yesterday.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Supposedly, this diagnosis was on August the 4th. It was made public on August 24th. At this moment, we still do not know if it’s a male or a female. We don’t know anything about them other than we are told that they traveled to El Salvador and back. We also know that they live within 20 miles of Washington, D.C. and Maryland. I can find you a report that initially said that it was a lady who went to Guatemala, contracted this issue, and came back to Maryland. Maryland’s been consistent. But why is the gender kept quiet? Why is this person within 20 miles of Washington, D.C.? And thirdly, What has taken place between August 4th and August 24th, August 4th being the day that diagnosis occurred, August 24th being the day that we made it public. They made it public. We didn’t make it public. Last week, Brooke Rollins, once again, was in Texas the day before she was supposed to be in South Dakota, making the announcement of the $750 million new fruit fly growth. I believe that’s at Moore Air Force Base in Texas. And that is to create sterile fruit flies to send to Mexico and Central American countries, so that these fruit flies will mate with sterile fruit flies so that they don’t make more fruit flies. Well, I’ve got a whole list of problems that have been diagnosed with that little issue. But I just find all of the timing of this to be quite interesting. But the most concerning part of the whole story is that every single news outlet, and obviously these news outlets are from the Maryland area, Baltimore, New York, They all tie this one person who tested positive or was diagnosed with the modern screw worm to be a potential rattling, the word that is constantly used, rattling of the beef industry. There is no risk to the beef industry of some person in Maryland on August 4th being diagnosed. By the way, Ivamec or your brand, whatever brand you choose, takes care of this immediately. There is a tremendous amount of sensationalism that’s taking place in the reporting of this situation. And yesterday, two days ago, as the news is coming out, people are like, oh, what’s going to happen to the cattle market? I can show you cattle markets, including close to your hometown, Russell, Kansas, who set records of record high prices of cattle. So here’s media trying to create this sensationalism and negative aspect to the beef industry about a person that may or may not exist. I don’t know. But there’s just a lot of cloudy details about it. And that’s what I know at this point in time.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, well, it’s clear as mud to me.
SPEAKER 06 :
I am a little… Us both.
SPEAKER 19 :
I am a little… And I looked it up. It’s not on any of the mainstream media regarding the $750 million for fruit flies, but it is on this website, Drovers.
SPEAKER 06 :
I don’t know if you’re… is that… Drovers is a cattle publication, correct.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, okay. So August 15th, 2025, breaking news, USDA to invest $750 million to build a domestic sterile fruit fly. That’s a lot of money.
SPEAKER 06 :
And you should get into the weeds on this sterile fruit fly. So the male sterile fruit fly is 15% smaller than the male that is in the wild. And the female fruit flies prefer larger males. So they typically don’t mate with smaller males to begin with. And secondly, if they mate with a sterile fruit fly and do not lay larvae like which they do, they’re going to go seek another mate. And we’re going to generate like 300 million fruit flies a week to send to, and this is not a new project, by the way. It’s been done in Mexico, and we’re transferring Mexico and Panama, actually. Panama is where most of it was done. But the data against how effective this actually is is very significant. And yet we’re investing $750 million in it.
SPEAKER 19 :
So you said this is not a new program. Do you remember when it was started?
SPEAKER 06 :
No, I believe it was started about 10 years ago, but it’s in Panama, if anybody wants to look that up.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, I’m just thinking if it was started 10 years ago and you still have fruit flies, then it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out it hasn’t been working, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. And what the U.S.’ ‘s investment, to be fair, the idea is that we want to not we don’t believe that we can personally eliminate the modern screw worm as a result of the fruit fly, because the fruit fly lays the larvae in open wounds is what happens.
SPEAKER 19 :
So the fruit fly and the screw worm are connected.
SPEAKER 06 :
The fruit fly lays the larvae, which is the screw worm.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, I didn’t get that. Okay. But I did look up the screw worm, and they go for open wounds. And that could be of concern to livestock and humans, right? That’s the fear factor there.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s correct. It’s not transmissible from person to person. It takes a fly laying larvae to make it happen. Which is why there’s just so much nonsense in that Maryland reporting story. Is it this one positive case in Maryland could rattle the beef industry? No, it can’t. Unless there’s a larvae, unless there’s a fruit fly that lays a new larvae and transfers it from one person to the next. But we diagnosed it and they fixed it.
SPEAKER 19 :
So is there treatment to the screw worm? Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely. The treatment in the cattle industry is simply dosing them with Ibomec, like we would do in a normal protocol.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. So why aren’t we doing that?
SPEAKER 06 :
Do you have Brooke Rollins’ email? You could send her a note and ask her.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, this is… And, Kim, I do not want to minimize the impact if we had screwworm in the cattle population in the United States. It would be devastating. But my point is, it seems as though we have a flawed strategy in how we want to go about doing this, because you just nailed it. Why wouldn’t we have a protocol of all cattle coming in being poured with Ivamec? Boom, problem solved. This is a no-brainer. Which, by the way, we are not bringing cattle in from Mexico at this point in time because of this very issue, which is where my problems with Brooke Rollins really started. Because in December, in an abundance of caution, we shut down imports from Mexico of feeder cattle into the United States because there was a modern screw worm problem in Guatemala and Central America. And then in about February, the USDA said, you know what, we feel like they’ve got that contained to certain regions. We’re going to go ahead and open the border. And then two weeks later, no, we’re not going to open the border. And then in April, we came out, I believe it was June, actually, we came out with this new plan. And we’re going to phase in opening borders. And we’re going to start with opening the border in Arizona. Then we’re going to work across New Mexico. And we’re going to have four borders open by December. And we’re going to phase that in one week later. No, by the way, we’re not going to open the border.
SPEAKER 19 :
There is no consistency. I get that, but it seems to me like she’s trying to protect our American cattle producers, and I like that.
SPEAKER 06 :
I love that. Why did we act like we’re going to open a border to begin with?
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. Okay. Good point. Okay, so final thought on all this, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, let me answer that question. I’ll tell you the answer to that question. Okay. because I know the answer to that question. And we have the severely low inventory of cattle. Anybody knows that cattle prices are record prices because the cattle are not available. We have a tremendous number of cattle feeders, many of them in this listing area. So I’m listing right now that have relied on imported Mexican cattle to be a part of our inventory. And so there has been pressure. In fact, the Texas Southwest Cattle Raisers, when that was announced in June, that they’re going to open a border, that that cattle organization applauded the USDA for doing so. So there’s pressure from the cattle industry to continue to have Mexican feeder cattle coming into the country. They’re fed and go through our system, which comes back to the whole discussion about the born, bred, and fed of the U.S. of A, U.S.A. origin cattle. that’s a whole different can of worms. No pun intended. Right. I did that accidentally. Thank you for pointing it out. But at the end of the day, what we need to do is two things. We need to protect the cattle supply of the United States. We need to protect the health of the cattle of the United States. We cannot afford to have screwworm in this country. Number two is We also need to maintain the inventory and the infrastructure that has allowed us to be the beef producer that we have been. And so it is a complex issue, but the yo-yoing approach from the USDA has not generated any confidence with anybody in the cattle business.
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SPEAKER 06 :
I don’t understand why cattle coming in from any country, including Mexico, primarily Mexico, would not just be treated. It would be a protocol. You have to be treated with ivermectin to get in the country or competing products. That’s the brand name, but it’s the active ingredient that matters.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, and that would not affect our food supply like a possible vaccine or anything going into beef. It would just be a treatment, right? There’s a difference between a vaccine and a treatment, yes?
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely. It’s a normal, I mean, I take Ivamec every month.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. Okay. And why do you do that?
SPEAKER 06 :
And by the way, I started doing it as a result of COVID, and it was the best treatment for fixing that. And, you know, that whole movement started where, oh, you can’t take a horse warmer. Oh, really? Yeah. Ivamec was created for treating people. And guess where? Central America with worms. The same exact place we’re talking about this fruit fly screw worm problem.
SPEAKER 19 :
Interesting. OK, Trent, we’ve got Gammy on the line. She’s got a minute and a half and she’s got a lot to say. So, Gammy, try to keep three points, though, because most of us can’t get more than three points. So, Gammy, welcome.
SPEAKER 20 :
Good morning. First, I’m going to sing to everybody. It was a one-eyed, one-horned, flying purple people eater. One-eyed, one-horned, flying purple people eater. Sure looks good to me. And that’s what’s causing all the problems. I joke. I just had to have some levity. What I want to say is two things, really. What Trent is saying is not just totally true, but it’s going to be a connecting of the dots that you have all been doing as best as you could. remember when noel harari who is with the world economic forum davos and the henchmen for schwab etc and the globalist agenda 2030 to kill two-thirds of us and 30 by 30 wilders he said there will be a time very soon when most of the humans will not be needed called us humans wow give me a break and then you look at all of the things that are being done to us in every phase of our, you know, civilization, and now I’m going to tell you something to add to it. The reason Harari and World Economic Forum said all that is AI. You already talked about the data centers, but do you know that parents with inconvenient truths, on trans and other organizations have come out with interviews they’ve had with AI, where it literally spells out how much misinformation, disinformation, it spews out there, and then people consider it the truth. And this goes for trans, you know, non-science, but health issues. The lies that are being perpetrated on us are being done by bots and fueled by all these AI centers, which their whole purpose is to destroy more of us. So our government had best get a heck of a lot more responsive to we, the people, the humans, because even our legislature said, you know in the last seven days back drove me nuts writing and speaking and our people were awesome everybody was awesome but they’re taking us over because they can control your every life you know every part of your life thanks gammy and uh yeah so what’s your comments about that trent
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, yesterday, for broadcast purposes, I tried to avoid using AI in my query for information. I realize it’s impossible to completely eliminate it, but I try to minimize and try to sort it out if I can. So yesterday, I used AI, and I would encourage, instead of me telling everybody the answers, I’m encouraging everybody to search via AI for The dangers of humanity as a result of AI.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
It’s not good, Kim. AI tells you that it will destroy humanity. In fact, it’s funny because in every sentence, and there were three sentences that really jumped out at me. The first sentence was that it is Internet folklore that AI is dangerous. And then the last part of the sentence is, but it can destroy mankind. I mean, every one of these things went right down to the ring like, yeah, we’re on a collision course with humanity as a result of AI searching AI.
SPEAKER 19 :
These data centers, they are not there to help people finish their emails or help them write a book or get information, although that is some of the things that AI can do. But you’ve got to think about it that data is the new oil, the new value, right? proposition and your data is valuable and it’s being sold in this being sold in this being collected and collected and everything you do with the flock cameras if you’re driving down the street all of that is going into data that they are collecting and creating profiles on each and every one of us. And we need to get this turned around. And the best way that I think that we can get this turned around, because people say, gosh, I like using that app. I said, yes, or this or that. But our children’s data is being bought and sold. It’s being sold by our school districts. And I don’t know about all school districts. Virginia Macca brought this forward in Kansas. But it’s being sold. And I think most people can say, We do not want you to collect and sell data on our kids. And so we’ve got a couple of minutes. Gammy, as always, you are very well informed. And thank you for taking positions on many of these bills that were in the special session. Trent Luce, I think that that’s the first line that we can draw is that we own our own kids’ data and we control that. What do you think?
SPEAKER 06 :
You think it’s an accident that the manufacturers of Chromebooks makes a Chromebook available to every kid in schools across this country?
SPEAKER 19 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. And it’s not just about your own data. It’s about how you formulate your opinions. And AI is intended to replace humans. Gammy nailed it right off. When you identify we as humans, like we are something of a past tense. That’s where we’re headed. And that’s what my AI search about the dangers of AI told me.
SPEAKER 19 :
So how do we stop this train? We have about 45 seconds and we’ll talk about that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Stop using AI. Stop shopping at the super center on the edge of town. Go to people you know. Do business with people that you want to be partners with long term instead of these corporate entities like BlackRock, who now has a CEO, Larry Fink, the head of the World Economic Forum. It’s all coming together. You decide who’s going to be the player by where you spend your money.
SPEAKER 19 :
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