Join Father Andre in an insightful exploration into the prophecies surrounding the Catholic Church’s future, as voiced by the Blessed Virgin in La Salette. This episode delves into historical views of papal leadership amid modern challenges and shares a captivating narrative of how faith intertwines with ongoing global religious dynamics. Listeners will receive a unique perspective on the impactful contrasts between the roots and current interpretations of Catholic doctrine.
In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Amen. At age 10, Father Andre escaped Christian massacres by living in caves in Mount Lebanon with his family. Today, Father Andre works tirelessly to encourage American leaders to keep God in the public square, defending religious freedom at home and abroad, so that all might live in peace for the glory of God. Founder and president of the Mission of Hope and Mercy, Father Andre has learned the secret to safety, joy, and peace. Love God and one another. Now, let us spend 33 minutes on the Lord’s Day, retuning ourselves to the truth of love in the hands of God.
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The Blessed Virgin may address herself as well to the hierarchy and of the hierarchy of the Catholic Church, particularly in Rome, where she stated before and after the approval of this dossier, Marian Apparition Site in La Salette, through Melanie Calvin, that the day will come when Rome will lose her faith and when the seat of Peter will temporarily disappear. be occupied by an Antichrist. She gives an idea of details as to who this Antichrist will be and how he will be born. Before I continue, I’d like to also add a very important point. The Catholic Church is not to be confused with its hierarchy, in other words. The hierarchy of the Catholic Church in the Vatican does not represent the ensemble, the total amount of the Catholic Church, no. The Catholic and Apostolic Church is the mystical body of our Lord Jesus Christ. It’s you. Americans, Australians, French, Belgian, English, German. It’s you. The Catholic Church are your children. The Catholic Church is Father. The Catholic Church is. And we remember with a great deal of gratefulness the promise that our Lord Jesus Christ did before his apostles when he said, And I tell you that the devil, the forces of evil, will never overcome my church. So therefore, if the church, if the hierarchy of the Catholic Church were to succumb, and this would not be really the first time we have in our history, a history of anti-popes which have come and have been gone and forgotten. This doesn’t mean that the devil or evil has overtaken the Catholic Church. As I mentioned, the Catholic Church represents the mystical body of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is you, me, all of us. To that effect, Our Lady of La Salette clearly stated that there would be, quote-unquote, deux papes vermelus, who will follow one another. Now, I will translate it the best I can, and hopefully Father will be able to add to his considerable knowledge to this translation, but the best I can do in English would be to earth-reader, to the ver, the… Ah. Worm. Worm. Worm. Like the underground worms. Worms. Exactly. Worm-ridden popes. In other words, rotten popes. Popes rotten to the core. Worm-ridden popes that would follow one another. That’s one of the particular secrets of La Salette. The gravity of this message bears no name. It’s of the utmost gravity. La Salette was not the only place where the Virgin Mary did mention something of the likes. Another place was in Lafraudet, as I mentioned, informally approved by its local bishop, Marie-Julie Shahini. The greatest, most recognized statement is in the Catholic Church’s history, where she said, that was given in September of 1878, 20th of September 1878, if memory serves, where the Virgin Mary told Marie-Julie Jahini that there would be two anti-popes who would follow one another. Blessed Anne Emmerich likewise stated that she had a vision of two different popes that would coexist for a temporary amount of time, one that would be more… progressist than the other, but the insinuations and the implications are clear. So, and in the Third Secret of Fatima, there are already, and I’ve met some of the theologians who’ve said, and in the first half of the Third Secret of Fatima, which has been released in June of the year 2000, when it is described in the vision of Lucia dos Santos, this Pope walking upward a hill with a burning city in the background. Remember, Rome is known in Europe as the city of seven hills. This pope, who was followed by a cortege of cardinals, bishops, religious nuns, etc., etc., the visionary Lucio dos Santos said, it appeared for a moment that the pope passed like in front of a mirror, and was proceeding forward in his path. The interpretation of not all, but some theologians and Mariologists, at least a couple of them I’ve met, I discussed this with France, discussed that two popes that appear like a mirror reflection of one another could be two popes that would follow one another who would be like two drops of water. They would follow the same politics, the same ideology. Anne-Emerick, Mélanie Calvin, Marie-Julie Jahény all have something in common. They discuss the dangers of the Catholic Church being infiltrated from within by free Masonic Freemasonic lobbies, particularly Marie-Jeunie Chani, where St. Michael the Archangel mentions them by name, Freemasonic loggers which would have for main purpose to implode the Catholic Church, so as to make it, quote-unquote, from the ashes of the churches of our fathers to come forth a new ideology, which would be everything but Roman, Catholic and Apostolic, and which would have for principal task to gather under one same roof, the children under the auspices of Catholicism, which means universality, to bring, with the ambition of bringing under one roof, all the Christians, including the Protestants, including the pagans, the non-believers, to do those prayers with one God, but not obligatorily that of the Catholic Church, with the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ that are deposited in the dogma of the faith, which is known to our church as being infallible. They would all gather, and even Anna Emeric was clearly stated that Rome, the Basilica, the Vatican, appeared as a festival of pagans, appearing and coming, speaking in different tongues, so as to praise one single God, but not the God as described by the Catholic Church, by the teachings of catechism and the deposit of a faith. Now, this has caused tremendous rivers of ink in matters of books and debates that always have a beginning and never, ever an end to this day still carries on. But the fact of the matter is this. As I mentioned before, and as Father mentioned before, whether you like it or not, we cannot hide behind our finger, as we say in French, but we have to have this illumination of conscience, the consciousness of realizing now that the Catholic Church, for the best, for the better, for the worse, is going today, whether we like it or not, into a civil war of souls. Whereas we find on one side of a red light which has been drawn, possibly by the predecessor of our present Pope, we have on one side those who say, in the name of charity, in the name of Catholicism, universal church, we must welcome everyone with charity, accept the way they are, embrace them and love them as well as equally loved children of God.
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Why forgetting that the greatest of all demonstrations of love and charity that we, as the disciples of Jesus Christ, can possibly show to our fellow man is indeed to welcome them all. And yes, we see the Pachamama, we’ll go into that in a moment. We must welcome them all. But the greatest act of charity is showing them the path to salvation. Not this rubbish, not this idolatry. We have witnessed a few years ago take place on holy ground, on the gardens of the Vatican, seeing these, God forgive me, but there are no other names, these pagans, adore on their knees and pray to the Pachamama. I invite all the Americans who watch us today to check on Wikipedia. Check Pachamama. You will see the definition of Pachamama, goddess from the region of the Andes in South America. And these people, if you check what they were praying, they were asking the Pachamama to render their lands fruitful and to be fertile. This was a prayer before a very paternal, approving glance of Pope Francis who was there permitting such a thing as welcome everyone with charity, without condemnation. No. is to know how to lead all those that are involved or engaged into a path of hedonism, of paganism, of paganity, of falsehood. And remember, isn’t Satan after all the prince of lies? Pachamama is the greatest liar of them all. The truest and best, the only path to charity for our fellow man is to have them here, to have them live the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ in the four Gospels, to teach them and to lead them to these instruments of salvation he has given us. And this is the message of La Salette. This is the message of Fatima, of Aguita, of La Frute. Charité is to lead the faithful to salvation through the sacraments which the Catholic Church installed by Christ upon Peter, when he said to Peter, you are Peter, and on this rock, not on that one. On this rock I shall build my church. And everything that you will declare as bound on earth will be declared bound and inhabited upon the authorities. And that’s what apostolic means. It means with the authority of Peter to the next pope, to the next pope, to the next pope, all the way to the latest legitimately, and I emphasize the word, legitimately elected pope of our Catholic history. Everything that the Catholic Church has installed and instituted as an instrument for the salvation of man is to be considered so today and cannot be changed. That means the holy sacraments of baptism, the Catholic baptism, the sacraments of confession, which is a treasure. Because do keep in mind, ladies and gentlemen, And when you go before a priest, such as this extraordinary gentleman, this extraordinary priest who was before us, and you confess your sin, which in itself is balance, because I assure you, if you haven’t done so, try. It’s a humiliation to kneel before a priest and ask God, not the priest, God, to forgive you through this priest in persona Christi. It is in itself an act of nobility and of humility. You present yourself before a man who could be even worse sinner than you. You present yourself before him and you ask God’s absolution, God’s forgiveness through this minister, this vicar of Christ. And when the priest gives you their final absolution, like Father would tell you much better than I, it is not he who forgives you. It is not the priest. It is God, through him, through this act of humility and love and faith that you’ve committed. Our Lord Jesus Christ asks us to follow this path. doctrine of a church, the only Christian church, by the way, which he has founded, which was founded by the Son of God, and with all due respect to all the Protestant churches, and God knows, that is my witness, that I have immense respect, immense respect for the Protestant churches, you know, particularly in the United States, because they are totally devoted to their faith. But the Anglican Church, no, has been founded by a great sinner, an English king, Henry VIII. The Lutherans has been founded by another great sinner, Luther. The Calvinists, Calvin, and so on and so forth. The only Christian church to have been founded by the Son of God is the Holy Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church through Peter. Could it possibly be that our Lord made a mistake and that he could not foresee the future? That’s an answer I think that all of you, all of us, have to answer. My answer is unequivocal. God could not have made a mistake. Father?
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Well, thank you so much for this explanation. Xavier tried to explain two historical realities predicted by Our Lady the Virgin Mary, Mother of God, who now in the season of Christmas we celebrate in a particular way the virginal birth from the womb of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. We also recall her Immaculate Conception as an indication that God from the beginning has sorted her out on a side as a tree of life from whose womb life comes to be restored for all human beings who are attacked by death and unfortunately by the original sin of our father and mother Adam and Eve. Including Adam and Eve will be restored back into the life the way God wanted them and created us in our originality, in his likeness. So, this Our Lady, the Virgin Mary, comes repeatedly to planet Earth as a visitor from heaven. It shocked me at one point when under our late Pope Francis, when he was making comments about the multiple apparitions of Our Lady in the context of the visionaries of Medjugorje. Medjugorje in Bosnia-Herzegovina, a land that we will consecrate an entire series of episodes. I pray that Xavier, if he liked to be with us on the show for the educational purpose, and you, if you are interested, that we will sit and we’ll speak about the Messages of Medjugorje for the Queen of Peace, the Virgin Mary. And how does this battle between Our Lady and Satan takes place actually in Medjugorje? And where can we discern and see the voice of heaven, the repentance of the people? He was inviting you as well, repentance through the treasured mystery, the treasured sacrament of reconciliation, penance, repentance. We call it confession in a short English way, but it is the sacrament of reconciliation. and penance. It is important that we treasure those sacraments and how in Medjugorje you see on a yearly basis millions of people going attending confession in one place on a daily basis. There are confessions being heard in over 80 or 70 or 50 languages in the world. Every month you see hundreds of thousands of people attending that sacrament of confession, and going to the Eucharistic adoration, to the Mass, to the sacrifice of fasting, to the prayer of the Holy Rosary, and to read the Holy Bible. Another thing he spoke about, and I’d like to somehow give it its fuller sense, I’m a historian by trade. I studied historical theology. That’s my PhD candidacy. I studied Islam and I taught Islam in the eyes of Christianity. Of course, I studied my theology classes and philosophy and I studied my licentium as in science of liturgy, the science of liturgy at St. Anselmo in Rome. So I might tell you that I could claim a little bit that I might have a little bit of authority when it comes to the critical thinking and in what I am to say next. I always struggled when I was the director of the office of ecumenism, which means literally the Christian-Christian relationships between the Catholics and non-Catholics. That’s what ecumenism is. Ecumenical movement is By extension today, people think that it’s a relationship with the Jewish people, the relationship with the Muslims, the relationship with other religions. It’s actually it’s not. Ecumenical movement is a movement that started in the early 20th century in our Holy Church as a response to a desire that sprang in the hearts of many Christian faithful across various sects. namely between the Orthodox Roman Church and the Catholic Roman Church. Then between the Reformed Roman who fell to become non-Roman, at least this is what they think, and that’s what we call the Protestants and from the Protestants, the English Church, the Anglican, the Lutheran, the Presbyterians, the Pentecostals, before that the Episcopalian, the Presbyterian Churches, the Baptists, the Southern Baptists, denominational, non-denominational churches. There wasn’t somehow a desire in the hearts of many of these people to say, I want to unite with my brothers and sisters. There was a desire in the last hundred years or so amongst Christians to say, okay, what is my relationship with the roots of my Christian faith? So when they came to address roots of the Christian faith, they found themselves in front of a big rock, a huge rock. For some, it’s an obstacle. For others, it’s a foundation. But it is what it is. It is a rock. It’s the Catholic Church. Because historically, all the churches take their birth, their formations, from the Catholic Church. Because it is the historical foundation of Christianity in the world. But here I want to make a nuance in our ecumenical expression of what is the Catholic Church, and Xavier explained it very well to you. It’s not the hierarchy of what you see today in one part of the Holy Catholic Church, which is the Vatican. True, the Pope of Rome is the successor of Peter, is the vicar of Christ, but the Pope of Rome is broken, actually, in half. Because half of him are the Orthodox Romans, which is a Byzantine church, for instance. Because his seat, in order for his seat to be complete, to be full, operable, according to the way Jesus Christ willed it, he actually has to be the Pope of the full Holy Roman Church. which is not because half of the roman church is divided still is you have today the um orthodox patriarchy of byzentium which is in constantinople today which is in istanbul in turkey and pope leo xiv after 1700 years on the anniversary of the nicean council and 325 you saw him about less than a month ago he went actually and he visited turkey And he visited the site where the Nicene Council, the very first big Nicene Council that defined the Nicene Creed, happened in 325. So defining the Catholic Church goes beyond. It does necessitate, it needs ecumenical movement. Now, where does the word ecumenical come from? It comes from, you know how we say in the United States, the United States of America, United States, States, United States. Literally in Greek, Ecumene or Ecumene is United States, literally. Meaning these are the states of the Holy Roman Empire that included states from Africa, states from Asia, states from Eastern Europe, from Asia Minor, states from Western Europe, from Northern Europe, and all the way to the British Islands. So in all of these, this is what we call the Ecumene Empire. The ecumene meaning the Holy Roman Empire in all its provinces, in all its four, two Caesars and four, two emperors and four Caesars, let’s say, the way it was divided at the time of Constantine the Great and a little bit after. So when we say ecumenical movement, we are referring to the desire of the church leaderships led inside the Catholic Church by the Vatican in the early 19th and early 20th century to recall unity, to seek the unity amongst all the Christians. On the other hand, we have also an inter-religious movement that is desired by the church. That inter-religious movement defines our relationships with other religions, and the church defines the other religions in two categories. one in a category of monotheistic religions meaning religions which were inspired by the same one god the concept of the one god because not the one god because he is the same god the concept of the one god but namely also the one god of abraham meaning the same god who revealed himself to abraham that would be the religions of judaism christianity and islam These three religions, they claim that they go back to Abraham, to whom the God of Abraham revealed the divine revelation, according to the book of Genesis, as you know. With that, the Church has a special attention given in the Second Council of Vatican to that particular category of the other religions, namely the monotheistic religions. The second part of the interreligious dialogue concerns other religions that we define them by natural theology. Natural theology meaning in the history of the people, in the history of nations, in the history of religions in the world, people automatically, by instinct of their own foundation, they discovered in somehow supreme being, a relationship between them and a higher being. Sometimes they refer to him as the sun, signs of the cosmos, symbols of the universe. Sometimes symbols of the earth, animals, the lion, the cows, you know, astrology, some sort of signs. We call them that people were driven by natural, natural theological sign from what God put in them, a desire to discover him through the signs and symbols of the universe. Yet they couldn’t yet reach to discover God. the person, the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit, who is totally the other. In this context, in 1846, on September 19, Our Lady speaks, regarding the Church of Rome of two prophecies or two things, consequential things to happen. One will lead to the other. The first one that Xavier spoke about is Rome will lose the faith. Rome will lose the faith. But it takes time for Rome to lose the faith. Remember, this is 1846. The Church in France was already confiscated, the properties of the Church, and France was the protectress of Rome. The Church of France and the King of France was the protector of the seat of Peter in the Vatican. In fact, in 1862, similar and before probably or or 1880 1880 or something there was gonna be a youth movement there was a youth movement inside the city of rome on the hill of the genicolo on the hill of the genicolo prior i believe even um after the french after the french revolution probably about 70 years or 60 years after the french revolution And at the same time was Garibaldi, Vittorio Emanuele II, and when Italy imprisoned Pope Pius IX, starting with Pope Pius, they imprisoned the Pope and the Vatican, there was a movement of the youth who tried to storm the Vatican, destroy the Vatican, destroy the Basilica of St. Peter. They went up to the hill of the Gianicolo, which is one of the seven hills of Rome, and they tried to launch a revolution. Pope Pius called for help from France, I believe. He called the help from France. And France helped him to stand up against the revolutionaries inside Rome, inside Italy. And unfortunately, the esercito, or the soldiers who were protecting the Vatican, killed hundreds of Italian youth. It was a bloody day. That is the same pope. who actually declared the dogma of the Immaculate Conception. That is the same Pope under Rome. You know, the apparition of Our Lady of La Salette, the apparition of Our Lady of Fatima, if I’m not mistaken, took place, Our Lady of Lourdes, took place at the same time. Pope Pius. So it is amazing to see how the history beaten against the faith of Rome was happening, including militarily, including in its military form. With that, the popes of Rome started to dwindle and down. They left what we call the principle of, the principle of, only through the Catholic Church there is salvation for the souls. They left that principle. The principle was that through the deposit of the faith of the Catholic Church in Jesus Christ, all the world will be saved. And then one pope after the other, they started to dwindle and down. They introduced modern sciences. Pope Leo XIII, for instance, wanted Enrique new times, new ages, to communicate with the world that the church today regards science, humanities, psychology, the discoveries, whatever positive sciences such as the medicine, the physics, the chemistry, biology, the history of critical sciences, of our ancestral lines, the way where does the humans come from, the evolutionary, the evolution science. The Pope is starting going a little bit, drifting a little bit away from the theological science to state we actually admit that the human science has its room and the revelation of God cannot only be explained by the sole principle of theology. Theology needs the human sciences as well. In fact, such a stand made the popes one after the other step away from the theological wall of how to defend the catholic faith and they started admitting to diversities of faith diversities of religions god speaks in various ways and god showed himself it affected concepts of our theological dogmas such as what is hell and does hell exist who is satan does satan exist what is the salvation of souls through the christian sacraments or there is another way that we do not know that god also saves souls it affected all of this And that was the beginning of how Rome will lose the faith. Until, and here I explain the last part of what Xavier was talking about. The second part of the prophecies, or the second secret, when he spoke about Les Deux Papes Vermelus. And thank you, my friends, for your patience with me. When I try to speak, usually I give my interlocutor, my speaker whom I interview, most of the words. But the words of Xavier need context to be put in. So we in America understand the importance of the shortness of time. that we have. The importance of our acts having to get together immediately as a Christian faithful. The importance of us connecting immediately to our roots in Holy Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church. It is a fact that King Henry VIII and Martin Lutheran called that church Anglican Church or the English Church, but they actually did not found it. That church is still a member of the Roman Church and it needs to come back. So you, in your foundations, you are still Romans. All of us are still Romans. Historically, the only non-Roman church, literally non-Roman church, will be the church of Assyria, which today we call the Assyrian church and the Chaldean church, because they were founded in the kingdoms of Assyria, in Edessa and in Nisibis, even before Jesus Christ died and resurrected. even before, because they were founded by two of his 72 disciples that Jesus sent under during his life. To King Abgar, he sent two disciples. We call him Adai and Mari. And Adai and Mari were two disciples amongst the 72 disciples. Those churches of Chaldea and Assyria were founded in Edessa in Nisibis by those two disciples who are not the 12 apostles. Before the 12 apostles coexisted at the same time as a part of the 72 disciples the Lord sent all the way to the world to preach outside the Roman Empire. So imagine how beautiful that is in our church. The Coptic church as well could claim that it is a church of Egypt. It was not part of the Roman Empire. The Armenian church could also say it was a part of the Armenian kingdom, which was the first kingdom outside the Roman Empire and before the Roman Empire to convert in its totality to our Lord. Same as Ethiopia, the Queen of Ethiopia. You know, the minister of the Queen of Ethiopia met the disciple, the Apostle Philip, on the way and he was transported to him by the Holy Spirit and he baptized him in the fountain of water according to the Acts of the Apostles, if you remember those stories. These are the churches that we call non-Roman churches. All other churches are Roman churches that we see in the world because they were founded within the boundaries of the Roman Empire at the time of the emperors and at the time of the apostles of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. So you have a way to claim back your nature, your identity, that you met Christ from the foundation of the Roman Church. So what is the idea, which is the second prophecy? The De Pope Vermilion. You know, in the United States, we spend a lot of money on, unfortunately, we have some sort of termites, right? We have termites, especially in the Midwest, in areas where there’s a lot of humidities. Termites are some sort of worms, some sort of worms that eat up the foundation of wood, eat up the foundation of wood. Do you know that they actually can destroy the house from its foundation? The termites can. And do you know that we actually pay to control pests in our homes in the United States billions of dollars in insurance money? And you know that they cause about 5 billion US dollars annually. The termites cause in housings about 5 billion dollars worth of damages to our homes in the United States every year. That’s what Our Lady in La Salette on September 19, 1846, This is how she described that two popes will come, almost, almost, calling them, the two warm, reddened popes. Two warm, reddened popes, which will allow, basically, they are like the worms, like the termites, to eat up at the wooden foundation of the church, of the seat of Peter. Clearly spoke about that analogy. This is how smart Our Lady is, guys, and this is in 1846. This is how divine intelligence, thus divine Father, put in Our Lady to show care for our humanity, for us. Look what analogy she used in 1846 on September 19, talking about two popes vermoulues, which is like two wall-ridden popes, basically, like the termites, that in this analogy, They will attack from the foundations of wooden structure, basically. The interferences to be drawn are surely that those two popes to whom she refers, bound by their acceptance of the office inherited from St. Peter, which is a rock on whom the stability of the church and security of the faith is guaranteed to defend the faith, would fail to protect the building of the church. They would eat up almost at the foundation, which is the rock of St. Peter, because that’s who the Pope is. The Pope is the closest minister to the rock. we you and me in all our churches are in a building of the church which is made of wood which is a house with the analogy and the imagery that our lady is using but the foundation is the rock the two pope vermilion or the two wall ridden popes because they are on the rock Yet they are on the foundation of the wooden structure of the church. Our Lady describes them almost as two termites, popes, who would allow the termites to eat up at the structural foundation of the Holy Church. That’s dangerous, my brothers and sisters.
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