In today’s episode, Mike and Mark dissect the strategic brilliance or potential pitfalls of Governor Gavin Newsom’s decision to host prominent conservatives on his podcast. Through heated debates and humorous exchanges, they tackle the underlying message Newsom might be sending and the possible effects on his political career. Could these conversations sway more independents towards seeing him in a different light, or are they a double-edged sword aimed at broadening his appeal? Tune in to find out as they navigate the complexities of political discourse in the modern media age.
Mike Gallagher. Every day Mike visits with Mark Davis. Morning host on 660 AM The Answer in Dallas. Here’s today’s Eminem experience.
SPEAKER 04 :
So do you want to agree first or do you want to argue? What do you feel like?
SPEAKER 03 :
Folks have liked the arguing now that you I’ve been totally slam dunked on the Gavin Newsom podcast.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, that’s what I want to argue with. That’s what I want to argue about, because people are getting are on to this guy. Now he’s had Steve Bannon, Charlie Kirk. Who else? What was the other conservative? Is that a trio of conservatives?
SPEAKER 03 :
Because I do have a caveat. I do have a. An asterisk or an asterisk. Are you caving? Are you caving, Chuck Schumer? Not at all. Because here’s the thing. Let’s see. And I wonder if this is a devious game by Governor Hairgel. Because I am great with it, and you should be too, as long as the guests who appear on that show are awesome, fantastic communicators who are going to win the arguments by any objective measure. Now, and I don’t know who and I don’t know who an example would be. I wouldn’t insult anybody. But if somebody winds up going on that show and getting owned by Gavin Newsom because they’re not a real good communicator. It’s not about who owns who.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, you’re missing the whole point. Let me tell you why you’ve missed the big picture. And here’s Axios. Newsom leads Democrats into the MAGA lion’s den. He’s daring. He has rankled the Democrat base by hosting a trio of hardline MAGA voices for the first three episodes. Who’s the third? Let me look here. Charlie Kirk. Michael Savage. Michael Savage. What? He’s had Michael Savage. Oh, yeah. That’s what I mean.
SPEAKER 03 :
And so Michael Savage, Charlie Kirk. I’m telling you. Let’s help people out. Let’s help people out who may not know who Michael is. Who doesn’t know who Michael is? Dude, Michael Savage has not been front of mind in talk radio for 20 years. I don’t think that’s fair. I think he’s around.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, please, really? I don’t know that’s true. I know. He’s a prominent conservative radio host.
SPEAKER 03 :
Not anymore. And he is also, and oh good Lord, now you’re dragging me into this. I don’t know how this one’s going to go. Because he is also a joyless scold of a man. Oh, Mark. Don’t start.
SPEAKER 04 :
Now we’re going to argue about another thing.
SPEAKER 03 :
The guy’s a delight. I love this guy. Personally over dinner, maybe. Well, no. He’s hysterical. Oh, yeah. He’s hysterical. Oh, here we go. He’s a knee slapper every day on that show. Are you kidding?
SPEAKER 04 :
Are you kidding me? I mean, Mark Levin isn’t a knee slapper, but so what?
SPEAKER 03 :
They’re passionate. I love the guy. Levin actually does have a sense of humor. I mean, it’s not a kind of a self-deprecating you and me style thing, but Levin. No, I know. I would love it if Newsom invited Levin. And I’m not predicting that one’s not going to go well.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, let me read what Axios is saying. In a discussion with MAGA, Charlie Kirk broke with his party, owned up to the dumbest boneheaded move of my life, dining maskless indoors. He’s trying to rehabilitate himself, Mark, and he’s using the podcast to do it. With conservative radio host Michael Savage, Newsom slammed California’s slow vote counting process. He complimented Tucker Carlson. With Steve Bannon, he gave Bannon ample time to promote.
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SPEAKER 03 :
his economic populist views and then he and it goes on to say he is widely expected to run for president in 2028 you’re rehabilitating the guy he will still be wrong on every issue why are you running scared i’m not running scared just newsome i don’t fear him i am confident in the superiority of our views and if he wants to welcome some of our people to make our superior points that is nothing but a good first look Look what you might do for a living. Why do you also, and also being additionally scared of Gavin Newsom— Nobody’s scared of Gavin Newsom. Knock it off. I hear you quivering. Why do you also— I’m not quivering in the slightest.
SPEAKER 04 :
Why do you also recoil— I’m quivering at your obstinance here.
SPEAKER 03 :
Why do you also recoil from the specter of vigorous debate? You and I are— I’m not—
SPEAKER 04 :
I love vigorous debate. The guy’s the governor of California who’s likely going to be a formidable Democrat candidate. Why do you want to platform him? You know what?
SPEAKER 03 :
Let him be an obscurity. Because it’s a free country, and I’m going to judge what I’m going to judge.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, it’s a free country. Oh, is it free speech, Mahmoud? Is it free speech? Uh-huh. Actually, this one is. I don’t care. I love it. Look, I’m not talking about a rights thing. I’m just saying don’t go on his show. Don’t give him the time of day and don’t platform him because he’s winning people over, people in the middle, people who are not as good. See, you’re playing to your own bubble. You’re in your own bubble. You’re not thinking about independents, people in the middle who are going to say, we’ve got to win, Mark. It’s about winning, not about good radio, not about good broadcasting.
SPEAKER 03 :
Maybe it is flip sides of the same coin, because as Gavin Newsom talks to Charlie Kirk and talks to Steve Bannon, I don’t know how the savage thing is going to go. But in those particular examples, you are concerned about people, sort of the mushy middle. Yeah, I’m concerned about him winning. Concerned that they will watch this and think, wow, this Gavin Newsom guy. He’s not so bad. He might be pretty OK. All right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Because, by the way, let me stipulate. Because he’s gaslighting. He’s not a moderate. He’s not pro-Steve Bannon. He doesn’t want to be polite to Republicans. And we’re going to learn that in his presidential campaign.
SPEAKER 03 :
And we’re going to wind him on fire. But let me finish my point, if I may. And that is for every person who watches the Gavin Newsom and Charlie Kirk. Gavin Newsom and… And Michael Savage. For everybody that watches those, for every person who goes, well, the Gavin Newsom guy might not be so bad. Yes, yes. I think there are two people, again, defining them as people coming in with no agenda, just kind of on, you know, who will hear Charlie Kirk and hear Steve Bannon and go, those guys are geniuses. I think that number is bigger.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, that’s a gamble. That’s a gamble. That’s a roll of the dice. And if he winds up being president, first of all, I’ll blame you.
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