In this riveting episode, Angie Austin brings in author Dinesh Dhani to delve into the controversial causes of autism as discussed in his new book. Together, they explore the potential link between traumatic birth injuries and autism, uncovering eye-opening insights that challenge conventional beliefs. Listen in for a thought-provoking conversation that bridges the gap between personal experiences and groundbreaking research on a pressing topic that’s making headlines today.
00:00:01 Introduction to The Good News with Angie Austin
00:00:09 Discussion on Education, Information, and Inspiration
00:08:23 Exploring National Parks and Family Bonding
00:15:13 Discussion with Dinesh Dhani on Autism Causes Unveiled
SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here’s Angie.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hello there, friends. Angie Austin and Jim Stovall with The Good News. We are talking about his Winner’s Wisdom column, and this time it’s education, inspiration, pardon me, education, information, and inspiration. Hey, Jim.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hey, it’s easy for you to say, and it’s always great to be with you.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, so what are you teaching us this week?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, it’s important to understand that, you know, we get facts, we get stuff in different forms. You know, we go to school for education. I mean, if you get a college degree and, you know, you’re there for four years, you walk across, they’ll hand you a diploma, and you are now educated. You know things. But you really know a broad base of things. You know, for the most part… college graduates don’t know how to specifically go do something. This is to say, if you went and got a job, your first job out of college, they’re going to have to train you in what to do. That’s an education. And I’m a big fan of education. I’m not being critical at all. I have a scholarship, and then we have the Stovall Center for Entrepreneurship at the university. So I am a big fan of education, but we need to understand what it is. Then you go beyond that to information. And You see this a lot when people go to technical school. They’ll go and learn how to do heat and air or do automobile repair. And when they get a job, they pretty much know what to do. They have a lot of information that’s in one area. But whether you have education or information, you really can’t succeed until you get inspiration. You know, everyone that you ever see that is succeeding in whatever it is they do is They have inspiration. If I know what it is I want to do, and I’m inspired, committed, I am going to go do it, I can find people that are educated. I can find people that are informed. I can find people that know how to do it. I mean, you’re talking to me today at my company, the Narrative Television Network. Angie, there is not one person who works here that I could do their job. I don’t know how they do what they do, but they do. And so I just have the inspiration to do what we do, and I tell them what we want done. They tell me how are we going to do it. I have the inspiration. They have the education and the information. And it’s really, really important to understand what is it we’re getting. And the kids at the university, when I teach there, I often tell them, I’m not here to give you the answers. I’m here to help you understand the questions. You’ll get the answers. And even if I had the answers for you right here in 2025, by 2028 or 2030, it’s going to be obsolete. So you’re here to learn how to learn. You’re here to assess things and learn where and how to get information and then get inspired to apply that in ways that really make a difference.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, I think about some of my friends who are really well educated and, you know, common sense isn’t always there. Or, you know, for instance, one of the people that I know that has a master’s, and I won’t even give too much info, was driving in Los Angeles. And she told me that she got in an accident. Someone had rear-ended her. And then her son said, well… Would you like to hear the whole story? And she’s like, I don’t think that’s necessary. I go, no, I definitely would. And he said, well, she missed her turnoff on the 405 freeway in Los Angeles. You’re going down the Sepulveda Pass. You’re going down a hill. A lot of people go in 75 miles an hour. And she missed the turnoff, so she put her car in reverse on the freeway, and she got rear-ended. And she said, but just so you know, it was her fault because she rear-ended me. And I’m like, well, if they would have known you were reversing on the freeway, that might have been the one exception to the person rear-ending you being at fault. And so I was like, you have your master’s degree. There’s been so many incidents over the last 30 years or so that I’ve known her that I’m like, oh, my gosh, are you serious? You did that? Yeah. I sent her to the store to get whipped cream or whipped topping or something. So whatever it was, she couldn’t figure out what it was. Like, is it that thing in the freezer that’s in the tub? I’m like, oh, my goodness. How did you get through school and do so well? But you’re right. I mean, education is different than knowledge.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah. Several years ago, I was speaking in Houston for a business convention. And at the same resort property, NASA was having a convention. So I and my assistant go to the front desk to check in, and there’s a guy in front of us. And he’s… telling the nice woman there at the counter, I can’t find my room. Can you tell me where my room is? And she said, just a minute, I’ll get the bellman. And she rings the deal and says, we have another rocket scientist here that can’t find his room. And she wasn’t being… critical of him but these are some highly educated people i mean these are people that can figure out how to put a guy on the moon and bring him back but they can’t find their room at the hotel and i just thought this is amazing so here comes the bellman who you know may have a high school education if that and he makes his living carrying bags for other people but he is leading the the rocket scientist to his room because the guy can’t find his room. So one guy is highly educated, and the other is informed. He knows how to do something. He knows where it is. So it’s really important that, you know, you get this. I mean, if I have a plumbing problem, I want a plumber that has the information on how to do this. I really don’t. If they understand all the principles of aquatics and all the different things that go into it, just fix the pipes here. Just do it. And those are the things we really need to understand. Do we want education? Do we want information? But regardless, you’ve got to have the inspiration. You’ve got to… have the passion for what it is you’re doing, or else you’ll be competing against people that do have the passion. It’s hard to compete in something where they care and you don’t. You’re never going to win in those games.
SPEAKER 06 :
Whenever you do these columns, I know you have a whole list of them. When you get these ideas, where do you put them?
SPEAKER 03 :
They go on a pending list, and on there, there’s probably 75 to 100 columns ahead. I just always hear about stuff. And, well, okay, yesterday I heard from one of the professors at the Stonewall Center, and he said, I’m getting ready to go on vacation two weeks, so let’s get this done, then I’ll talk to you in July. I said, great. And I said, where are you going? He said, well, my kid is doing this national park thing. I said, what does that mean? Well, I didn’t know this. Every fourth grader or every 10-year-old in America can go free and take their family to any or all the national parks. It includes admission for you and your whole family, parking, the whole deal. And you’ve got to be in the fourth grade or 10 years old. And it’s an amazing thing. But one of the things that impressed me so much about it, when I was studying it, it was signed into law in 2015 by Barack Obama as a temporary measure. And then in 2019, as it was coming up on five years, Trump said, that’s a great idea. And he signs it into law as a permanent thing. So what a great idea. And, you know, Trump and Obama, that I’m not sure they ever agreed on anything, agree on this. And 90 percent of senators voted for it. And it’s just an amazing thing. And so as soon as I heard about that, you’ll see this in a column in the next three or four months, probably. And so I just always am looking for stuff.
SPEAKER 06 :
I love that. You know, my brother, first of all, that’s a great learning experience, a great way for family bonding. And my husband and I joked around about when we retire that we’ll get an RV and go to the national parks. But also, Jim, all of the major state fairs to try things like the pork chop on a stick, the fried chicken. Twinkie, the fried Oreo. But every year they’ve had fried butter. Every year they come up with new things. And, you know, I’m not a big unhealthy eater. But, you know, a bite or two of those things just to see, like, what is this? You know, I’ll tell you, though, the pork chop on a stick was one of the most delicious things I’ve ever had in my life. And I remember my southern uncle was like, Jackie Ray. He’s like, Angie, you want to do a pork chop on a stick? And I’m like, I don’t know, Uncle Jack. It doesn’t sound very healthy. Angie, girl. This is about hell. This is delicious. Mom, mom, get me a new one. What, Jackie Ray? And I’m like, oh, my gosh. I’m like, okay, Uncle Jackie Ray, I’ll try the pork chop on a stick. And I’m like, ooh, is it good?
SPEAKER 03 :
I have a theory that you could go to your local landfill and find an old tennis shoe. and fry it with ranch dressing. You chop it up, fry it with ranch dressing. Americans would buy it and eat it. It amazes me. But, yeah, I’m always intrigued with that stuff they do. And I’ve heard about the fried butter. I don’t know how they do that without it melting. That amazes me.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I don’t know either, and the fried ice cream and all the interesting things they do, but there’s this lady, Steve Hartman, who does those really good news stories on CBS. He used to work across town from me, and I met him at the Emmys once, and I just said, I always admired your work. That’s a dream job for me to travel around the country and find the best stories, the most inspiring stories, and meet people all over, really, the world, he goes. Okay. So he does this story on this woman. It was a teacher trying to make some extra money in Minnesota at the state fair in the summer. And I may have told you this before because it blew me away. She makes these really delicious cookies. So she started selling chocolate chip cookies by the bucket. And it’s a bucket full of chocolate chip cookies. And they have a huge production now to do this. She makes, and I don’t remember how much over $100,000 it was or if it’s hundreds of thousands of dollars, but I knew it was over $100,000 for the summer or, you know, for the state fair. It’s not even a full summer. Yeah. And during that time, they have such a production of cookie makers where there are probably other teachers, right, that she could make more money in that state fair week than she could her entire, you know, teaching year and help out other people as well. And it was, I mean, and I’ve heard there are people would wait for an hour to get these cookies in line because they were so amazing. I mean, a bucket full of chocolate chip cookie, who wouldn’t want that?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, absolutely. Yeah, I was at an event once, and the guy said, oh, you’ve got to try this. They have fried Oreos. Yes, I’ve had those. Okay, and I said, well, thank you, but no, I’ll pass this on to my colleague. He said, what, are you afraid you won’t like it? I said, no, I’m afraid I will. That’s the problem right there.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s hilarious. That is so funny.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. All right, so when you – oh, my brother, I wanted to tell you that one. He was a teacher, and speaking of the national parks, tying back to that, he was at Raytheon, and he was making good money. He went to West Point Military Academy. He’d say, oh, you know, four-star general so-and-so was coming through the building, and he waved at him, and he’s like, hey, Ted, in the back, and all Ted’s coworkers or whatever were like – How do you know that guy? He said, well, we went to school together. So he didn’t go the route of becoming the big mucky muck general. He was happy with his job at Raytheon, a big defense contractor, and made good money and had a nice career. But he felt he needed more of a challenge, and he also wanted to travel in the summer. So he quit and he became a teaching assistant for $17 an hour about two years ago. He’s never been happier. Well, this year he got a full-time position as an algebra teacher at But right now, he just came through here, and he is in his Mercedes camper van things. He’s going to Yosemite. He’s going to Crater Lake. He’s going to Yellowstone. And so it’s just him and his dog, and they’re traveling around.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s amazing.
SPEAKER 06 :
because we’re having a big family reunion in Northern California, more like a small town in Northern California, kind of inland. And so he’s going to camp along the river, and we’ve got great swimming holes. And, yeah, he’s making like nothing, and he’s so happy.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and I would encourage anyone to go to the national parks. And I have a book that will be out next year about a young man and his dog going to a lot of places. But that’s a sequel to a Steinbeck novel. But I would recommend anybody do it. And before you go, or if you’re not going, at least get Ken Burns’ documentary on the national parks. It is an amazing experience because when you think of the foresight – Teddy Roosevelt had 120 years ago. When we were still trying to populate two-thirds of the country, he said, hold it, we need to set aside millions of acres because someday it’ll be gone and we’ll never get it back. And we have these things because some amazing leaders with some forethought did that. So, you know, just great stuff. But, you know, they’re just a tremendous opportunity to go do that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, thank you very much, jimstovall.com.
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SPEAKER 06 :
Hello there. Angie Austin here with the good news. A very timely topic today. Very pleased to welcome an author with us to talk about his new book. His name is Dinesh Dhani, and the book is Autism Causes Unveiled, the Hidden Traumatic Brain Injury at Birth Causing the Autism Epidemic. Welcome, Dinesh.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, Angie. Glad to be here.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, so give us a little background on you and your book, because I understand that you also are a father of children with autism. Is that correct?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, Angie. So I have two boys. They’re now grown up. They’re about 18 years old. The first boy and the second boy is 16 years old. And they are both on the autism spectrum. They’re fairly lower functioning at this point. And, you know, I’ve always been told it’s the genetics. You know, people have blamed autism on genetics for a while now. And, you know, but then we had nothing on either side of the family. You know, there was nothing hereditary going on on either side. And we were really confused, like most autism parents are, on what was causing our issues. And then… We were very busy, you know, helping the kids, running from between therapies and doctor appointments. Life went on, busy. But then a turning point came when a neurologist had ordered an MRI scan for my second boy. And that’s when I discovered what exactly happened to the child, you know, that’s causing their disease. In both cases, what had happened was like they had been induced, you know, put through labor induction during pregnancy, you know, during delivery. Yeah. And that, I figured, was the cause of their autism. So let me explain that, right? So we had looked at an MRI scan, you know, the doctor had ordered, the neurologist had ordered an MRI scan. around when the child was like seven years of age. So it was a few years ago. And what we noticed was there was scarring in the white matter of his brain. You know, like there was what was called white matter gliosis in the brain and multiple areas of white matter gliosis. Now, there’s only one reason something like that can happen so deep in the brain, and that is trauma during birth. And I did some of my own research on the topic, and I looked at the label of the drug that is used for causing contractions. Is that Pitocin? Yes, and that is Pitocin. So the Pitocin drug, comes with a clear warning on its label that it can cause traumatic brain injury if used in certain contraindicated circumstances. So obviously a lot of births do happen with labor induction these days. and not everybody ends up with autism. What had happened in our case was mom didn’t have any contractions, you know, no signs of labor at 40 weeks. And then we were told, you know, labor induction is a safe and natural way of delivering the baby. And so we had agreed to that and, you know, She was not dilating at all. And then the labor had to proceed for a really long time. And what happens is like there were protocols in place in hospitals to stop induction at a certain point and and do a C-section if delivery doesn’t happen within a certain amount of time. OK. Right. So it’s like four to six hours period. And I’ve got the full details of it in my book. autism causes and wealth. So I did that research, figured that, you know, it was their traumatic brain injury at birth from prolonged labor induction that was causing their condition. So what had happened is like the neuron tracks in the brain get severed. And you end up with that disconnected brain that is very typical in autism.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s interesting. And then I’m curious, do you have any other children or are these your only two children?
SPEAKER 04 :
These were the only two children. They were both put through labor induction for a really long time. Okay. By the same obstetrician. They were only two years apart.
SPEAKER 06 :
Again, if you’re just joining us, Dinesh Dhani is talking about his book, Autism Causes Unveiled, about his two sons and the MRI that was done. They were 16 and 18. One MRI was done when one of the children was about seven years. and he is talking about the link he believes between Pitocin inducing the birth and then autism. Since you’re kind of an outsider in the medical world being a software engineer, how has your book been met, your research, how has it been met by the professionals? Have you found people who think you’re on the right path, or have you had a lot of people disagree with your book and your findings?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, so mostly, you know, almost like 90% of the doctors that I’ve talked to, you know, if they are a pediatrician, you know, any other speciality, they agree with what I have to say. And I, in fact, have a blurb on the top of my book from Dr. Grady Harp, who’s an author and a very… well-known writer as well. So he said this is a book that could bring an end to the autism epidemic if people understand what I’m saying in this.
SPEAKER 06 :
What do you think about everything coming out now? It’s rather timely that we’re discussing your book when autism is really one of the main news headlines right now.
SPEAKER 04 :
Very true, very true, Angie. So Obviously, they have decided to blame it on Tylenol and acetaminophen in general. Unfortunately, that is a very small segment, and that was a lawsuit that was going on in California and got dismissed. So I believe there is, like, very powerful forces out there trying to cover up cover this up because it’s a birth injury and birth injury paying out birth injury compensation is expensive so yes so there is powerful forces trying to silence voices like this in fact i am probably the only one out there you know with a book. Actually, I do have a previous book as well from 2021. and this is my second book, which goes into greater detail and depth about, uh, what is really causing the autism epidemic. So, um, and I’ve had parents reach out, you know, doing that research on the internet. They, they come back and tell me, Hey, you’re the only voice out there saying this. Um, you know, but, but, but we totally agree. Right. So.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. In terms of, um, You know, what you hope to accomplish. Obviously, you’re trying to help other parents and you were curious about what happened with your your own sons. What do you hope, you know, to come will come out of the, you know, releasing the book and people reading the book? What do you hope to come out of this?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, I’m hoping to create awareness about the true cause of the autism epidemic. You know, it started off in 1980, right when Pitocin was launched, you know, became the go-to drug in maternity pavilions across the country and even around the world. And so we just need to be more careful about hospital births at this point. My advice to moms out there is birth doesn’t always have to be a medical event. If you’re having a healthy pregnancy, no complications whatsoever, going the midwife route is might also be an option that you might want to consider. And that’s one advice I have for moms out there that are expecting and wanting to make sure that they don’t run into the enormous interventions, the heavily interventionist atmosphere in hospitals. And that’s one thing. And of course, we can reserve those hospitals for the more complicated cases. And that’s one thing. But then I also believe that understanding the causes will help better cures emerge for the existing impacted population. So the People with autism, you know, if you go on saying that, you know, it is a cause unknown, you know, there’s never going to be a cure, you know, a way of recovering these kids either.
SPEAKER 06 :
And how are your sons doing now? You know, they’re 18 and 16. They’re probably at…
SPEAKER 04 :
you know, five, six-year-old level of maturity, you know. And probably they will probably stay around that level is my expectation. I mean, I’m doing the best I can, you know, going through every medication out there. Yes, yes. But then it’s a slow process at this point. And I also… I also have this nonprofit that I have called Autism PI, the Autism Parents Initiative. Oh, neat. And I’m running a retrospective data collection among autism parents. So I request any parents hearing this today to go and, you know, drop some of their data into those easy to fill up forms. What we’re doing is like, figuring out all the causes of autism. So it is mostly a birth injury. It can be hypoxic injury. It can be a traumatic injury, like in the case of a dose and abuse. So we just trying to catalog every possible case out there. And I believe, you know, unless we can, we’ve tried multiple options, unless we can, you know, find victory in court, in this circumstance, right, for we may not be able to bring change. And data is critically important, you know, having that data to back up your claims.
SPEAKER 06 :
And where do people go to enter their information if they’d like to do that for Autism PI?
SPEAKER 04 :
It’s autismpi.org, and then I have a data collection tab right there. on that site, you know, and a whole wealth of information in there as well, in addition to the wealth of information in that book, Autism Causes and Wealth. So autismpi.org.
SPEAKER 06 :
autismpi.org, and again, the book, Dinesh Dhani’s book is Autism Causes Unveiled, The Hidden Traumatic Brain Injury at Birth Causing the Autism Epidemic. Dinesh, thank you so much for joining us, and good luck on your journey to help others.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you so much for having me. You are welcome.
SPEAKER 01 :
Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.
