In this episode of Annette on America, host Annette Bybee navigates through a series of national issues that have been making waves recently. From the disappointment of the Super Bowl halftime show to the critical look at government efficiency under Elon Musk’s and Trump’s influence, Annette delivers a refreshing dose of common sense and strong opinions on current events. She discusses the societal standards seemingly crumbling around us with startling honesty and a touch of humor, providing listeners with thought-provoking insights into America’s cultural and political state.
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Welcome to Annette on America, hosted by Annette Bybee, God-fearing, freedom-loving mother, college professor, lawyer, talking to you about all things freedom, all things America.
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Welcome to Annette on America. Annette Bybee here. Single mom to three, three teenage girls. Count them, three. And recovering, well, no, not recovering anymore. Actually practicing, practicing lawyer and college professor. And I just want to say right up front, do not miss my second half. I’m talking to a lady whose daughter went off to college and the college, which was supposedly a conservative one, stuck a transgender male into her dorm room and then tried to just kind of write it off like, Hey, no problem here. Nothing to see here, but that’s not how things worked out. So stick around anyway. I have been out for a few weeks. I apologize. I have been sick. You do not want the flu that I have had. It’s not been good times, but I am back. But I missed so much. There is so much that I didn’t get to talk about because I was gone for a few weeks. And I just wanted to spend about a minute on a few things. First of all, the Super Bowl. i don’t watch football i could care less but i like to watch the commercials and i like to check out the halftime show and there were a few decent commercials and really the only reason i watched was because i had heard the rumor that elon musk was going to spend a ton of money on buying an ad about doge but i never saw that happen so i don’t know why that didn’t happen but anyway The only commercial that stuck with me as being decent was the Harrison Ford Jeep commercial. I thought that was pretty good. Oh, and also the one, I think it was Rocket, where everyone was singing Country Road, Take Me Home. Anyway, a couple of interesting commercials. The rest, eh, there was a weird one where they had a seal with Seal, the musician’s face on the seal. That was just bizarre, and I thought, I’m going to have nightmares over that one. but the thing that stood out to me the most was the halftime show which was terrible i kept waiting for it to get better but it was just basically a guy up there who i don’t know because i’m not a rap fan um but i guess he’s you know very well known and and won a bunch of grammys or whatever but couldn’t understand a word. And actually they had the captions on and I’m reading the captions as he’s rapping, still not understanding what the heck he’s talking about. I mean, they had these dancers in red, white, and blue, which was fine. Samuel L. Jackson making statements that didn’t make any sense to me. So the whole thing was totally over my head. I guess there was meaning in it. I guess there was a song written about another rapper and calling him out as a pedophile. I don’t know. What I do know is that probably 80% of us don’t like rap, have no interest in it, want music we can relate to. Heck, even sing along to would be all right. But no, we got a guy up there making some obscure message and we’re supposed to be thrilled about that, I guess. I don’t know. Anyway, it was terrible. I kept waiting for it to get better. I thought, well, you know, I have these kids. One of them does listen to rap. And so… I thought the halftime show was about as terrible as a car ride with her picking the music, which I’ve been on, and it’s not. very unpleasant. But anyway, I thought, you know, I’ve heard some of the songs because she’s in the car with me. I didn’t recognize any of his stuff. And a couple of women got out and I didn’t recognize none of it. And I’ve heard rap. So very disappointing, very boring. None of us care. None of us want to hear some obscure message. We want to be entertained. That’s all we want from a halftime show. Don’t try and educate us. Don’t try and give us some message. And we can’t understand it anyway when you’re wrapping it. We just can’t. So, you know, give me Prince again. Give me someone. Give me… Or as people have recommended on Facebook, Weird Al. Now that one… I think everyone would enjoy. So that’s my commentary on the Super Bowl and my commentary on the Grammys, which is why was a naked woman allowed to stand there and be photographed on the red carpet or whatever the carpet is? Why was she not arrested for indecent exposure? Is that where we are now at as a society where we no longer are we now not only allow public nudity, but we take pictures of it and we put it on our newspapers and our websites. I mean, are we really that bad of a society? I sure hope not. And obviously Kanye and his wife, A normal man, if he saw his wife somehow end up naked in front of a group of people, would throw his coat over her. But not him. Apparently, this is his thing. He likes his women to be exhibitionists. I don’t know. It’s just disturbing. Those are my comments on where we’re at as a society. And it ain’t good, people. It ain’t good. Again, why was she not arrested? She was not wearing anything. Whatever that little micro mini see-through dress was, it doesn’t count as clothing since she was fully naked and you could see everything. And that’s not okay. All right, jumping into it. The other things that I’ve been missing over the last few weeks is Trump and Elon. Elon is like, those two are the big dogs right now. And if you go online, you can easily find a picture of Elon with his son in the Oval Office with President Trump. The picture I keep showing his son has got his finger up his nose. It’s kind of funny. He looks like he’s probably about four or five, but Anyway, so let’s talk about Doge. And then let’s talk about why so many people now hate Elon. It’s funny. There’s now not just Trump derangement syndrome, but we also have Elon derangement syndrome, EDS. And you know, I never really paid that much attention to Elon before. I’ve never been a huge fan of electric cars. You know, if you want one, great. I don’t have any desire to have one where you have to worry about when you’re going to be able to charge your car. But I never really gave much thought to him and now I’m a fan. So let’s just talk about what’s been going on with Doge. The beauty of Doge is its incredible, well, efficiency. Donald Trump had four long years to think about what he might have done differently in his first term. And remember I talked about this last time, a few weeks ago, how it’s like during the time that Donald Trump has been out of office, he spent every waking moment planning what he was going to do when he got back into office. And it looks like that’s what he’s been doing because the man’s been operating at warp speed. and more importantly, what he would pursue in his second term. Making the federal government or at least the executive branch operate efficiently and accountably was very high on his list. And in his first three weeks, he’s moved with lightning speed to make it happen because he knows he only has a few years, right? He’s probably going to lose the Senate and or the House in the midterms. So he has very little time. Yesterday with Doge, Chief Elon Musk, and his four-year-old son, not four, I got it right. Lil X, which is a very silly name, by the way. Does he want this guy to grow up to be a rapper and end up doing a halftime show that everybody hates? Lil X, come on. In the Oval Office, Trump signed another executive order implementing the President’s Department of Government Efficiency Workforce Optimization Initiative. That’s a long title. It’s about reinforcing the drive to thin out the ranks of federal workers by getting federal agencies to coordinate with DOGE. It requires a data-driven plan for only essential new hires. stipulates that each agency hire no more than one employee for every four employees that depart, and reiterates that the goal is large-scale reductions in force. And I’m just going to go out on a limb here and say that Even if all the federal agencies lose three-fourths of their workforce, probably won’t make much of a difference in productivity because it seems to me like most federal workers get into their job and it’s like having tenure. They almost never lose their jobs. And so then they can totally rest on their laurels, especially if they’re working from home. And I work from home, but I have to… I have to charge for my time. I’m a lawyer. I have to keep track of literally every minute. So there’s no not doing something. I have to answer for every minute of my billables. These federal employees don’t have that. So they’re at home and from what I understand, it’s an easy workaround to make it look like you’re working when you’re really not. So I’m critical of these workers, but it’s human nature. It’s human nature that if you have a job, you know you’re not ever going to lose and that you really have next to no oversight. What’s your motivation to work? if you’re not just an honest person who values work ethic, you don’t have a lot of motivation to really be productive. And so you’ve got, I’m guessing a very large percentage of the federal workforce is already doing next to nothing. Anyway, I heard from a friend who told me that his, I’ve heard from a couple of people who know federal employees that they brag about how little they work. They put in like an hour a day and they’re getting paid eight hours and you know they’re getting good salaries. So yeah, I think if you drop three quarters of the workforce, then that one person left is actually going to have to work eight hours a day. That’s what’s going to happen. All right, so let’s see. So the order is simply the latest prong in Trump’s attack on the bloated, wasteful and unaccountable bureaucracy. running America into the ground. Democrats want to keep this bloat in place, of course, because most of it benefits them politically. Most federal workers also are Democrats themselves. That’s why they filed over 50 lawsuits to stop Trump wherever they can, and sometimes it’s worked. I hope that the court system is going to allow us to do what we have to do, Trump said. He also said rather sarcastically, it seems hard to believe that judges want to try and stop us from looking for corruption. Unfortunately, on Monday, U.S. District Judge George O’Toole extended his restraining order on Trump’s buyout offer for roughly 2 million civilian federal workers. More than 65,000 federal employees, about 3%, have already taken their severance pay and left. Can you imagine that? How huge the federal government is? 65,000 is only 3%. That’s crazy. Let me pause to say that there are absolutely some and maybe many great and effective people who work federal jobs. They do their jobs because they love America and want to serve. Dare I say, however, that is not the rule, like I just explained. Far too many federal employees don’t work hard because they don’t have to. Public unions and the Democrats they buy off have their backs. Once a federal program is in place, the logic says it must always remain in place. Ergo, their jobs are safe, even if job is barely the right word. All the while, we taxpayers work hard to produce money and then watch it disappear before our paychecks even hit our bank account. That money funds wasteful and unconstitutional things that we don’t want. Musk spoke to that point. If the bureaucracy is in charge, then what meaning does democracy actually have? He asked. It does not match the will of the people, so it’s just something we’ve got to fix. He added, if money is spent badly, if your taxpayer dollars are not spent in a sensible or critical manner, then that’s not okay. Your tax dollars need to be spent wisely on things that matter to people. As an example of the opposite, he pointed to finding people who are supposedly 150 years old, but still receiving social security. That’s where a case where I think they’re probably dead, said Musk, or they should be very famous. One of the two. The people voted for major government reform, and that’s what the people are going to get, Musk also noted. That’s what democracy is all about. Making another vital observation, he said, transparency is what builds trust. The last four years utterly destroyed trust in government. The upheaval Trump and Musk are bringing will be messy and painful at times, but the goal is good and right. restoring accountability, responsibility, and trust to the government. USAID, CFPB, and FEMA are all justifiably in the crosshairs. The swamp draining is welcome and we hope it continues because there’s a lot more where that came from. And one of the other statements that Musk made when they were in the White House doing this press conference was he was talking about how some, I can’t remember if it was federal employees or politicians, but it applies to both, that are making, I’m guessing it was politicians, are making a salary of maybe a few hundred thousand a year, but somehow have amassed tens of millions of dollars. How does that happen, right? A little insider trading, maybe? Whatever it is, it’s not honest, it’s definitely not straightforward, and it’s not what we elected people to do. All right. Oh, there was some other point I was going to make. Oh, the other story that I saw over the last few weeks was how Politico was getting government money to the tune of, I think it was $34 or $35 million. must be a nice gig if you can get it, right? You know, I could use some money. I’m arguably a member of the press. Why can’t, you know, if the government was going to give me money, wow, how nice. Of course, then I would feel obligated to tow the party line and put out radio shows, share articles that are friendly to whatever administration is sending me money. It’s called a conflict of interest. And so if you’ve been getting any news from Politico, you should start questioning it. I get stuff in my inbox from Politico all the time, and it’s always lefty. And now, I mean, I’ve always known that. I just didn’t know they were getting paid by the government for that. Oh, and so this just came out today. Trump says he wants, quote, con job, unquote, education department closed immediately. And so it’s about time that happened. It was funny. I saw a meme on Facebook today. It was actually a repost, I think, of an ex-post from some lady saying… listing out all the failures in our education system about how people can’t read and write and I can’t remember what else. And she’s like, and President Trump wants to shut down the Department of Education. What is he thinking? And of course, all these people are making comments. You just proved your case, lady. If we’re spending all this money on a federal Department of Education and our education is a failure, Huh, why would we continue it or throw more money at it? It’s like having an employee who does a terrible job and then moving him up and giving him a promotion. No, you fire his tuchus. When someone’s not doing the job that they were hired to do and you’re overpaying them, you fire them. We don’t need a Department of Education. Well, let’s see. So let’s see what Trump has said. President Trump said Wednesday he wants to shut down the Department of Education as soon as possible. I’d like it to be closed immediately, he told reporters in the Oval Office, describing the agency as a big con job. It’s just fun. I mean, he says fun things. He blasted the U.S. education system for being ranked 40th in the world, but being ranked number one for cost per pupil. Send it back to Iowa, to Idaho, Colorado. Trump went on keeping to his pledge to put education back to the states. That’s a developing story, according to New York Post. So I just… Yeah, yeah, you just gotta love the bluntness. You know, it is a con job. How much of that money at the federal level is going for DEI programs or sex education programs or forcing teachers to use pronouns? I’m so glad that we finally have a president that calls out that nonsense for what it really is. And as a reminder, don’t miss my second half because I’m talking to a lady whose daughter has been forced into a dorm room with a transgender dude, a dude that thinks he’s a woman. And so don’t miss what happened. It’s a great story. All right, one last story I think that I have time for in this half. Why they really hate Elon Musk. Oh, there was another meme I think I saw how they showed Elon looking through blinds from the you know it’s an office from the office anyway he’s looking through blinds and it says something like. When you’re watching someone drive away. from a job you fired them from in a car that you developed. It’s just funny on so many levels because liberals are totally into, or they used to be totally into Teslas and a lot of federal employees can afford Teslas unlike the rest of us. And so it’s ironic that they’re driving away from those jobs that now Elon is getting them fired from anyway. As Elon Musk continues to take over and wind down parts of the federal bureaucracy, establishment figures from across media and politics are growing increasingly resentful of the tech entrepreneur. If you read a national newspaper, turn on a major news channel, or tune into one of the establishment’s many late night satire shows, you’re bound to see Musk getting mocked and criticized relentlessly. He’s framed as a rich person using government to get even richer and as a political operative willing to skirt rules and norms to get what he wants. Many establishment types also like to remind their audience Musk is unelected at any chance they get. A not so subtle suggestion that the actions he’s taking in D.C. right now are illegitimate. You’ll also hear Musk and his team criticized for conducting some of their work in secret. And then there’s, of course, the swipe that’s become popular in the wake of his gutting of USAID, that he is willing to hurt poor people to make himself better off. Setting aside the many flaws and inaccuracies with these characterizations of Elon Musk, it’s worth noting that all of them apply even more accurately to the American political establishment itself. To start, rich people using the government to benefit themselves has defined the American political system for more than a century. As Murray Rothband laid out in great detail in his book, The Progressive Era, the transition from the laissez-faire, hyper-limited government system of the mid-1800s was not driven by the bottoms-up plea to protect workers and keep food clean that we were taught about in elementary school. It grew out of the recognition among the heads of industry that they could much more effectively protect their market share from smaller competitors and go on to expand it if they used the power of government for their own benefit. In other words, the key to staying on top switched from innovating to lobbying. That started with railroad companies in the late 1800s, but quickly grew to include industrial farmers, health care providers and bankers in the early 1900s, followed by weapons companies, Wall Street firms and many others in the second half of the century. Today, virtually all the giant corporations that dominate these industries owe their positions to government policies set up in their favor to the detriment of the American public. The modern political establishment is defined by their willingness and ability to protect and expand this dynamic. It is laughable to hear them falsely criticize Musk for doing the same thing. The same goes for his supposed violation of constitutional rules and norms. Many of the loudest establishment voices condemning this behavior were cheering just as loudly as the George Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama administrations launched dozens of undeclared wars, conducted warrantless surveillance, used torture, carried out extrajudicial assassinations on American citizens, and provided aid and comfort to Al-Qaeda. At the very least, these are explicit violations of Article 1, Section 8, Article 3, Section 3, and the Sixth Amendment of the Constitution, as well as Section 2340A of Title 18 of the United States Code. And during the COVID pandemic, the political establishment took the exact same kind of approach they’re now criticizing mosque for conducting. Federal and state governments rushed to close businesses, schools, and churches and prohibit people from attending public gatherings, all without even pretending to care about the constitutional rules and norms they are now feigning concern about. Yeah. When I go back to the Wayback Machine, and I remember March of 2020 and April of 2020, when things started to shut down, all of a sudden you couldn’t go to church, you couldn’t go to the store, you couldn’t have people over, you couldn’t leave your house without being a worker, Anyway, an essential, an essential worker, right? And so I remember I was just getting back into my political podcast and I sat down with my friend DK, who was also an attorney and a libertarian. And we sat there and we enumerated all the different ways these regulations, these executive orders were violating the constitution. It was obscene. But yeah, where were these guys then? Where were they complaining about violating the First Amendment of not letting us go to church and not letting us assemble? Next, the implication that what Musk is doing is illegitimate because he’s unelected is ridiculous. Not only was it made very clear to voters before the election that Musk would do this if Trump won, virtually the entire federal workforce that the establishment is trying to protect from Musk is unelected too. The millions of unelected officials who conduct the bulk of federal government operations were brought on and set to work without even a fraction of the transparency and publicity involved in Trump’s appointment of Elon Musk. Speaking of transparency, it’s comical that a political class that classifies an estimated 50 million documents a year, 90% of which are probably unnecessary according to some establishment legal experts, is voicing disgust over Musk’s team’s occasional use of discretion. Finally, it is appalling to hear the American political establishment criticize Elon Musk for his supposed willingness to hurt the poor and vulnerable to make himself better off. That is essentially all these people have done the entire time they’ve been in power. Over a century of government meddling in crucially important industries has made it harder for the poorest Americans to afford food, education, housing, healthcare services, and medications. Federal policies have discouraged sensible financial decisions like saving while encouraging riskier investments with politically connected firms, just as other policies drive Americans to adopt a tragically unhealthy diet to the benefit of well-connected food, health care, and drug companies. And then, of course, there are the wars launched by the political establishment across the Middle East, North Africa, and now Eastern Europe. These wars have raked in trillions of dollars for weapons companies and other contractors, but they have also killed millions of people and destroyed tens of millions of lives across these regions. Understanding who the political establishment really is and what they have done makes it clear that the principles they are pretending to have when denouncing Elon Musk are fake. The establishment’s problem with Elon Musk is not that he’s willing to upend norms and test or break rules. They have shown an enthusiastic willingness to do so themselves. The establishment’s problem with Elon Musk is, put simply, that he is threatening some of their power. And to them, that is unacceptable. Okay, so that’s all the time I have for this half hour. Again, don’t go anywhere. You want to be here for the second half when I interview the lady whose daughter was stuck in a dorm room with a transgender dude.
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Welcome back to Annette on America. It’s Annette Feide, your host, back again. And as promised, this is going to be a very interesting half hour. You do not want to leave during it. If you’ve missed any of this first half or you’ve missed any of the second half, shame on you. But you can make up for it by going to annettetalks.com, YouTube, Stitcher, Spotify, any of the other podcast providers, and listen to it. So in this half, we have a lady who has now I think, become a mama bear because she had to go through a ridiculous situation with her college student daughter. And… Well, let’s just start the conversation. Hi, Cheryl Saltzman. Welcome to the program. Hi, thanks for having me. Welcome. So you and I are Facebook friends, and we’ve been Facebook friends for at least five, six years now, right? Since before. Yeah, crazy. We were just talking about that and how we’ve connected somehow because of our freedom mother propensities. And I started seeing your story being told on Facebook, I think by Eric Moutsos, who I’ve had on this show a couple of times, who’s a local here in St. George. And when I saw what was happening, I was outraged. And I kept watching and watching the developments and watching the developments. And I thought, it’s time to tell the story because it looks like it’s resolved. And so…
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Go ahead and just tell us from the beginning what happened. Just a month of just insanity. I can’t even tell you. I’m just this regular mom living my life. And my daughter messages me from college. And tells me, mom, I think a man pretending to be a woman just moved into my dorm. And I didn’t believe her. Let’s just put it out there.
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Utah State University. Yes. We’re both in Utah. And you were just telling me ahead of time, because I’m a newbie here. And so I don’t know the college landscape very well. But you were telling me that Utah State is historically a conservative college in a conservative community. So this was quite a surprise to you.
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Yeah, I would say I would have believed that. I think if it’s not a conservative college, because maybe their bells don’t exist anymore, but that’s what you, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to believe that most people are choosing Utah State thinking it’s probably a more conservative choice.
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Yeah, I don’t know if there are any actual conservative schools. Correct, yeah. Not anymore, unfortunately. I mean, I read stuff about BYU all the time that’s very disappointing.
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Yes, it’s so true. Sidetrack. Yes, exactly. And so she came home for Christmas and was just, she kept bringing it up and she was so concerned that she thought a man moved it. And I kept telling her, I’m like, it’s probably a friend. It’s probably a sibling helping move in. You know, I totally blew her off. And when she went back to college before the semester started, she messaged me, she said, mom, and, and she verified with a roommate. And instantly I was like, I was just like, okay, mom mode, like, let’s get her out. That was number one. And so I called the college and it was interesting because it was a very rehearsed dialogue that they had. And it was very much well, because I had told her, I said, well, the night before, because I called the college and I said, I called her. My husband and I looked at the website and read about the gender inclusive housing that is available on campus. And they said, well, there is gender inclusive housing. However, we do not force anyone to live there and we allow housing based on the gender you identify or it would be discrimination. And I’m in just seriously for three weeks, maybe still. I was just in complete disbelief of just every single day. It was wild.
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But I wasn’t living there at the dorm for those three weeks. I mean, did your daughter have to live in the same? It’s like a little pod, right? With little rooms that are connected.
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Yeah. So it’s actually this particular dorm is laid out like a motel, essentially. And so each motel suite is actually a miniaturized apartment. So inside the apartment or suite, I’ve been calling it to help with confusion. So So the outdoor hall, like in the motel, and then each door you go in and it’s just a miniaturized living room, kitchen, and then three bedrooms all close together and one tiny bathroom all together. One bathroom for all those rooms? Yes. Oh my gosh. Six girls. Six. Six girls live in this bathroom.
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That already sounds terrible. Even before you throw in a dude, I know.
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Right. Can we just talk about having six girls share this tiny bathroom that alone? No kidding. And I was concerned about that. Actually, that was a whole nother conversation. I was like, this is going to be crazy. But then you stick a guy in there. It’s just like wild. So, so we, we, So when I got transferred to someone else that I was supposed to talk to, she wouldn’t talk to me. So the housing department, her name’s Megan, that I was transferred to, I said, hey, my daughter needs to transfer out of her room. And she said, well, okay, but she will have to have a reason. And I said, well, a biological male just moved into her dorm room. And her entire tone was like… ah crap like you could tell like there was irritation instantly like and she’s like well I can’t talk I have to talk to the contract holder it was very much like I’m no longer talking to you I will only talk to these the contract holder the my daughter I’m like okay so anyway we got her out pretty quick um but she couldn’t move out till the next day and so she she She, I mean, she came home for Christmas, but so there was that week and then a day and she actually came home to sleep because I didn’t want her even staying the night in that apartment. Yeah. And so she was living with him, I guess, technically for like the week over Christmas break. But they got her out. They got her a new place for the next day. So they got her out pretty quick. But she called her bedroom mate that was set to move in with her the next day as well. She just said, hey, because she didn’t even know her. But she was like, hey, hi. Just FYI, they moved a guy into our apartment. Just wanted to give you a heads up because no one else is going to. And the girl was like, heck no. And so she moved out as well. And so, but then there are two girls, the two girls. And I think it’s because they really liked each other and they’re shy. And I know they’re uncomfortable with it. And it makes me sick. And they are still there. And he is still there. Yeah. He is still there.
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You said that there’s gender inclusive housing that this guy could go live in. Yes. But he’s not choosing that.
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Correct. Because he wants to live with the girls.
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With the women. Yes. Supposedly as a woman. Yes. Okay. So you probably don’t know this, but. Has he had any surgery? How far is he into the transgender?
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People ask me that. And my answer to that is, ew. Yes. I don’t want a, I don’t want a mutilated man living with my daughter either. No, I know. Just curious.
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I always want to know, when I run into a situation where we’re- Like, how dedicated are you to this? Exactly. Yeah. Like, that’s the reason I asked, because when you hear about the California prisons, where the men that identify as women move in, and then whoa, magically, these female prisoners end up pregnant. So there are these dudes moving in, pretending to be women, or they’re identifying as lesbians, but they’re having sex with their penises.
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How do you not see that as a governor or, you know, whoever’s running the prisons and say, obviously this is a way for the men to get in and have sex with women. That’s all.
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Get off on it. Did you hear about the sorority in Wyoming? No. There, you need to look that up. I was listening to a podcast like a couple months before this even happened to me about the sorority that school moved in a man into this female sorority and he would have his hands down his pants while they were cooking breakfast. He would walk around with an erection. I hope this is not too graphic for your show, but like just… Just, I mean, you have, you do not have good intentions and, and you are not empathetic. You are not kind. You do not have courtesy for women. If you’re moving in, if you’re crossing that line into their space. Okay. I would like to believe that not all trans people are so rude to invade in that space and realize that they need to take these women into consideration. I would like to believe that. I’m assuming that not all of them are so rude.
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And I wanted to throw this out there. My daughter, I was talking to her about this. I have three teenage daughters. One of them is actually looking at colleges. And I believe Utah State University is on that list. Yes. In a few weeks, we have a college day at her school here. And anyway, I was telling her about our interview and the situation. And she said, well, you should invite a trans man to come on the show. So I’m putting it out there. If you are a trans, I guess you would call yourself a trans woman if you are a man who’s Thanks, you’re a woman. Anyway, I would invite you to come on the show and talk to me about this. I bet he would. I bet this guy would.
SPEAKER 02 :
Because he’s been doing interviews.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, then if someone, if he wants to come on, I don’t even know his name, but if he wants to come on, shoot me an email at Annette, at AnnetteTalks.com. And let’s talk because I really want to get the other side and find out why you think it’s appropriate. When you are obviously still a biological male to invade the space of women and make them uncomfortable, so you will be comfortable at their expense. That’s basically what it comes down to is you’re putting your own self above them. When you could go into the gender inclusive housing, I can see why if you’re an actual transgender and you’re not just trying to get in there, I could see why you wouldn’t want to live with men. Yes. Go into the gender inclusive housing where men and women live together and, you know, you can do whatever. And there’s consent.
SPEAKER 02 :
Right. I know what they’re getting into. Yeah. And they can be comfortable. Isn’t it ironic that they do not feel comfortable, understandably, to live in the men’s dorm, but they’re perfectly comfortable living. invading a female space and making it now an uncomfortable men’s store. Like it’s so wild.
SPEAKER 03 :
And guess what? I went to college for many, many years. I never once lived in a dorm. So you, you know, you don’t have to live in a dorm. You can live off campus. You can rent a room from someone who has no problem. Friends that you live with. Exactly. And so, you know, there are a lot of other options. Yes. So obviously that wasn’t the end of the story, but, No.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. So this is not just a person that slipped under the radar as, you know, a girl’s name and all of that. This is someone the school interviewed and hired as a resident assistant. Right. So we have validating, pushing agenda, woke agenda by this university that inserted this man into a female dorm without knowing that these girls are going to be completely blindsided and put in an incredibly uncomfortable, you know, situation. Yeah. So and so I think there’s so many of these factors that really made this story that much more like shocking and and made it go so big and explode so much from Eric Muto’s perspective.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. So I was talking to Cheryl Saltzman, whose daughter goes to, she still goes to Utah State, right? Yes. She goes to Utah State University and they tried to put her into a dorm room with a transgender male. I’m not going to call him a woman. He’s a man. He’s a man.
SPEAKER 02 :
We can’t call them women. We can’t even call them identifying.
SPEAKER 03 :
I refuse to do that anyway. I will dead name, I guess that’s what they call it. And you make a very big point that this is not someone that slipped in under the radar. This is someone that they inserted in there as a resident assistant. And they didn’t see… If this college was wanting to be honest and above board about this, they would have… mail at least sent a letter to all the way the girls in this dorm and said this is what’s going on we we want you to know and we’re giving you the out that’s going to make sure you have consent the least they could have done yes Well, because there are people like me and parents like me who have been like, oh, heck no.
SPEAKER 02 :
And if you don’t like it, you move out of your home that you’ve lived in for an entire semester now, weren’t planning on moving. This is your problem now, not the man that decided he was going to go live in this girl’s dorm. That’s how incredibly rude this man is as well. He feels perfectly justified in kicking girls out that are uncomfortable. It’s their problem.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s obviously his agenda. Yeah. Yes. So what happened next?
SPEAKER 02 :
So like in complete shock, I make this post on Facebook just, and in fact, almost like instantly when this happens, because it was, it’s seriously been shocking. surprising for me because i i i generally post memes on my facebook you know and i’m i’m a big like political like i follow paul to and i think of all people i just found it incredibly it’s just interesting that this would happen to me you know what i mean and so i post this it’s just like I’m living in a twilight zone because this is common sense. This is not, this is things of comedies in the 80s and 90s. Like this is ridiculous. And now you’re this crazy person uh activist shocking person if you’re like no when there’s women and there’s men we don’t want boys and boy parts in the girl’s dorm like no like this makes you this incredibly controversial person now it’s like insane so so I posted it on Facebook and um Eric Musos is was tagged and he called me that night and it’s kind of cool because I’ve been following these freedom fighters and now I feel like like I said I feel like I’m part of this like freedom fighting club you know it’s kind of cool because he’s like my friend now I feel like like he called me we were on the phone and and he went over the post with me and he’s incredibly um
SPEAKER 03 :
thoughtful you know he’s he’s just very he’s just a very good person I I feel like and he took it to the next level and so because I started seeing his posts and then I was like hey I know that lady and so then he contacted the university right
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, so he put it on X and it blew up 4 million. Mike Lee reposted it, 4 million views on this post. And actually it’s over 4 million now, 4.2 million, I think, or something. And it blew up. And then I had the Speaker of the House for Utah call me. I had senators call me. I had a member of the 70, Area 70 of the church call me. Wow. Call us. And it was incredibly, like, just concerned and validating and amazing, like, support.
SPEAKER 03 :
And then we ended up with some legislation, right?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes. Well, almost immediately before I even did any media, the Speaker of the House was like, Either they’ve broken the law or they found a loophole. And it turned out that they found a loophole. And he said, this is interesting and good timing. Like the way this all wind up, just like, and I don’t know how religious your podcast is, but like God really is. was with me throughout this whole thing. Like never in my life have I just had to rely on him so much. Like, and I just felt like I was put in this position to stand up for women and girls in this moment. And I need to rise to the task because I’m very, I feel extremely inadequate. And like I said, I’m not a person that seeks attention or a social media person or, you I’m just like, I’m going to do whatever I can do to help in this cause. And because so then all these girls and parents start reaching out to me and saying, this happened to me, but I can’t give you my name. I’m too scared for my career. I’m too scared for, you know, I’m going into education. Some of these girls I’m going, I don’t want to use my name. I, you know, people are scared. People are so scared to speak up. Yeah. Different college, same college? Same college, mostly. There was a gal from Snow College that this has happened, had a similar thing. So mostly people from Utah State found me and reached out to me. But yeah, this is not… I’m just the only person that was like… Why are you putting dudes in the girls’ dorms? This is not okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
You’re the right person at the right time, and I think you’re right. God moved on you, and he said, okay, it’s time. You’re going to help me. You’re going to help me make a change. The timing of it all. Unfortunately, we’re running out of time. Oh, shoot. So tell me about the legislation. Okay.
SPEAKER 02 :
OK, so, yeah, so I did a bunch of media and then they said that they were writing up a bill. So it was like I did local media. And then the next week I did national media. I was on Newsmax and Fox and it was so wild. And then the third week they’re like. Don’t rest yet. You have the legislative session. So this this legislation had loopholes like crazy in it. And an hour before the committee meeting for the legislative committee meeting, they closed up those loopholes and did substitutions that would close that up. So I’m like. You couldn’t, like, government is so much crazier than the movies even, like, make it. It’s wild. I’m like, this is insane. And then, so my daughter and I spoke at the legislative committee. And then two weeks ago was the Senate committee. And that RA, that boy, was there at this last Senate committee and sat by my daughter while she gave her speech. I’m not even kidding you. Detention. And that video is on my Facebook. Oh, I’ve got to go find it. Mine’s on there and then underneath it. And I don’t know if the algorithm’s not kicking it up to you, but it’s crazy because that’s him. He sits right next to her while she’s doing her speech and then um then then the next last week i heard it went through and so now it’s just sitting on governor cox’s desk waiting for him to sign off on it oh he’ll sign up on it or he’s gonna have some problems yes i have from everything i hear He will be signing off on it.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, you know, I get he’s very LGBT QTIA plus plus WTF is fresh. The boy used to say friendly. So but he he’s has to sign off. He all this media attention. This is not just a local issue anymore. No. So, yeah, he has to.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, he has to.
SPEAKER 03 :
And then the president of the university has stepped down, right? Yes. So funny. Didn’t she move over to either University of Washington or University? Yes.
SPEAKER 02 :
So she moved over to a liberal college. Yes. Which is a great fit for her. That will be great. She’s only been there since 2023. And this is not her first controversy, but I agree. I 100% believe for good reason that this, what I was told by a high up, government person that this changed the trajectory for the college forever and heads will roll. And then this happened.
SPEAKER 03 :
Lady, you took down a university president. Just a little old mom. I think that’s the story that people need to take away. Yes, the trans thing is the big deal right now. Fortunately, Trump is in and you’ve got some common sense coming from the top down now. But I think the bigger story is that it only takes one person willing to stand up and continue to stand up and continue to stand up and continue to stand up. And then guess what? Everyone else looks and they see they see that you’re doing it and then they become brave and then they become willing to stand up. I’ve seen that every college days. I will never forget standing up in one of my classes when this teacher was spouting a bunch of nonsense and nobody would say anything. And I finally raised my hand. And when I made a comment, finally, all the other hands started going up. That’s the way it works. And so kudos to you for not backing down off of this. You could have just said, okay, my daughter’s out. And okay, we’re all good. And then just gone away and never posted it and never but you went the distance.
SPEAKER 02 :
So kudos to you. Thank you. Yeah. And it it’s been scary. It’s been a lot. However, the We are the majority. Yes, we are. Most people agree with this. I have a friend from high school that is a lesbian who agrees with this. This has been terrible for the gay and lesbian community.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I think most of the gay community, they do not like to be associated with a trans community. No. They don’t like having that T. No. They don’t. I see that again and again. Because gay people have logic just like we do. Yeah.
SPEAKER 02 :
Listen, but here’s the thing I always say. If gender doesn’t exist, then you can’t have a preference in a gender. Right? So it kind of is canceling women, but it’s canceling gays and lesbians as well. Right? Yeah. you are a this is the narrative is you are a bigot if you wanted to date this man that sees himself as a girl well a lesbian wants a woman you know not this guy either so it yeah it’s just defies common sense it’s our last 30 seconds
SPEAKER 03 :
I’m assuming you’ve had plenty of hate coming at you. Have you gotten messages, emails, phone calls, things like that?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, the trans activists… folks found my Facebook and found that post and blew it up and blew up my messages. And there were a lot of scary messages, but what’s the scariest is how I didn’t really look through them. And, and I was nervous in general, but it didn’t really bother me that much. And I didn’t even look really, but it’s the restricted content ones that, that go against Facebook and, Oh, that’s the ones you’re just like, that’s where your imagination goes. It’s like if they’re allowing these all these mean ones, how much worse? What are in these ones that they’re not even letting me see? Right. So but but to be honest, there’s been a lot of nerves and anxiousness, especially when that all happened, because you don’t know. how in danger you are. You know what I mean? But socks and that kind of thing.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes. Yeah. And the FBI raids, what are those called? And you don’t know what these guys are going to do. Get squatted. Yeah. Yes. Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Let’s pray that you don’t. yeah and of course I’m out of time this always happens we could go on for another half hour easily yes Cheryl Saltzman thank you so much for coming on and sharing your story and as a mom of three daughters all headed out into the world all headed out to college I really appreciate you standing up for our girls so now my daughter hopefully won’t have to have that fight if she goes to Utah State so
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, it should be great now, hopefully. Get a good president in there.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. Well, thank you all for listening to Annette on America, where freedom lovers gather.
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