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Dr. Kelly Victory joins John Rush to dismantle the media’s latest “long COVID” claims and expose the deeper story behind vaccine injuries, fear-driven journalism, and the corruption inside public health. In this extended discussion, she explains why studies on vaccine safety remain hidden, why mainstream medicine silences dissent, and how Big Pharma’s control of education, research, and news created the biggest public trust crisis in modern history.
John and Kelly also take listener questions about children’s health, school mandates, and vaccine data manipulation—bringing to light the difference between scientific inquiry and corporate censorship.
It’s a blunt, eye-opening conversation that challenges the
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And welcome, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, this Thursday edition. Dr. Kelly Victory with me, as she typically is on Thursdays. Hello, Dr. Kelly, how are you? Hey, I’m doing great. Thanks for having me. Always a joy. Steve House not able to be with us. He was trying his best, but he got stuck on a flight on an airplane, so he will not be with us. So it’s just the two of us today. And several things to talk about. And for those of you, maybe they’ve never heard us before, Dr. Kelly has a Oh, gosh. How should I say this? A long history when it comes to all the things involving COVID and really just medicine in general. Dr. Kelly, you’ve been on the corporate side of things, trying to keep people healthy. You’ve been in the trauma end of things. I mean, you’ve done a lot in your career. In other words, you’re an expert in a lot of the things that we talk about. So those of you who may be joining us for the first time, there is an entire page on our website, RushToReason.com, dedicated to Dr. Kelly. But you’ve been doing things for a very long time, Dr. Kelly.
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I have. I’ve been a physician for 35 years. And as you said, I’m trained as a trauma and emergency specialist. I did that for many, many years, but then spent the last couple of decades really immersed in public health as well. And so I was sort of in a unique position, I think, when the pandemic came along because I brought a different viewpoint to it. I certainly early on smelled a rat. And I mean, within the first couple of days of the of the pandemic back in January of 2020, you could never have I would never have anticipated if you had asked me back then what was going to happen. I could not fathom. what actually took place over the ensuing four plus years. And frankly, we still aren’t out of it. I think we won’t know, obviously, John, the damage, the extent of the damage that was done Certainly from the mRNA shots, but also from the lockdown itself, the fact that we robbed children of two plus years of their social lives, their education, their socialization in school. We have an entire generation of people who are now uncomfortable going in public without a mask on and all of this silliness. People have become germaphobes to the umpteenth degree. And perhaps the worst of all of it is that a vast number of people, a vast proportion of people have lost all faith. in the health care system and in public health, in our leadership, quote unquote. They don’t know who to believe, where to turn. People don’t want to go into the hospital or to a doctor’s office for fear of being mistreated. And I think I understand their concerns. I really do. It’s tragic.
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Speaking of, and along those same lines, and this is something that I had sent Dr. Kelly earlier in the week and something that we discussed back and forth just a little bit, but I wanted to save it for today to really get into it. And there’s an article in Rolling Stone. I actually was able to – I don’t have a subscription to Rolling Stone magazine for all of you listening. No, that’s not how I get some of this stuff. This just happened to come across the Apple News feed. But this article is titled Long COVID is Real and is Changing an Entire Generation. Hundreds of thousands of kids. Keep in mind, I just said hundreds of thousands of kids in America are struggling with an illness that many doctors and schools refuse to recognize. And this thing goes into all about, you know, kids getting COVID and they’ve never been the same since and, and, and, and, and. And you read this and, you know, and again, you and I commented back and forth. And I just want to start off asking you, first of all, you know, Is this, again, fear porn or is there some validity to this particular article?
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Well, the reality is this. All respiratory viruses, and that includes certainly COVID, but includes influenza and respiratory syncytial virus, RSV, certainly Epstein-Barr virus, mononucleosis, these sorts of things. All of those viruses can be associated with what we used to call back in the olden days post-viral syndrome. meaning that you get acutely ill with something, the flu or mononucleosis, you get over that acute illness, but are left then with some vague lingering symptoms for a period of weeks or months, commonly fatigue, brain fog, sometimes muscle aches, those sorts of things. It is relatively uncommon, but all of these viruses do have that as a possibility. That said, The number of children who got acutely ill with COVID was extraordinarily low. I mean, almost 99.9% of us have now had COVID at least once. Children all got it, and most of them had nothing more than sort of mild cold symptoms. I find it very, very problematic that people are trying to pin all of these vague symptoms, everything from skin rashes to nausea and vomiting, brain fog, neurologic conditions, headaches, all of this. on that. Because until you can do a study where you show me those symptoms in people who didn’t get vaccinated, then I might believe it. Now, I have heard of literally one or two cases I have heard of from colleagues who have patients who have what they would deem, quote, long COVID or prolonged post-viral syndrome, who had COVID, were quite ill with it, And we’re never vaccinated. So in that case, you obviously, it’s pretty clear that their symptoms have to be related to the virus itself. But given the number of children who were forced, you know, or mandated or otherwise, you know, coerced to get vaccinated and, you know, the number of parents who did it willingly, I suspect and most of my colleagues suspect that the vast, vast majority of these people who are being deemed to have, quote, long COVID actually have long vaccine. What they have is a vaccine related injury. That is that is not has nothing to do with COVID itself, because, as I said, if you look at the people, the unfortunately only about 20 or 25 percent of the entire population didn’t get vaccinated for COVID. And as I said, we all got COVID at least once. You simply do not find people with very rare exception and certainly not in children with these symptoms that could be attributed to a prolonged viral syndrome.
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And I think that’s where, you know, when I first read the headline, and of course, I get it, you know, a lot of these, these writers, you know, they try to be as dramatic as they possibly can, it gets more people to read. And of course, that’s where the money is made. And there’s no secrets there, Dr. Kelly. And so the first thing that caught my eye on this particular article was, you know, hundreds of thousands of kids. And I’m thinking, okay, wait a minute. Like you, again, we were all through this together. You’ve been coming on air now for five plus years. We were doing this particular hour during COVID. We were talking about kids even during that time, the fact that we had school closures and distancing and kids couldn’t go out on the playground, just all this utter, let’s call it what it is, nonsense that was happening at that time for an entire generation that at that time, Dr. Kelly, as we talked many times and you’ve just noted, You know, even if they got COVID, OK, they get colds every year. It’s not that big of a deal when it’s all said and done. So to then read this and hundreds of thousands of kids are essentially what this article is saying are now suffering from, quote unquote, you know, long COVID. I just I read this and I thought, boy, that’s a really daring thing to say. Maybe is the way is the way for me to explain it. In other words, you’re really stepping out on a limb trying to prove something that, frankly, you can’t prove.
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One hundred percent. As I said, you have all of these kids with rare exception, again, rare exception for a kid because these are they’re talking about kids in public schools. That’s where they were. All these studies are from. So children in public schools. almost universally, were required to get vaccines. That’s why they wouldn’t go back. Right. They got vaccinated. That’s right. So you have no way of saying that these kids, that this isn’t a vaccine-related thing. Furthermore, many, many of the symptoms that they’re reporting, supposedly of being a symptom of, quote, long COVID, also could be attributed to the fact that these kids, as I said, had really messed up you know, the last two or three years of their lives. A lot of them, you know, were locked away in their room doing Zoom classes. They certainly weren’t learning anything. They were forced to wear masks. This ridiculous concept of social distancing. Many of them are really socially awkward at this point is the best word I can say. They missed out on on two or three years of socialization. You know, so these kids have a lot of anxieties, a lot of phobias, insomnia. The amount of damage that was done by forcing young, young children to wear face masks is really incalculable. And furthermore, you know, we’ve got a generation, for example, now of kids who are toddlers, you know, young, say, you know, eight, 12 to 24 month old children who are trying to learn verbal skills who are profoundly verbally delayed because of the number of adults around them who are wearing face masks. Children learn to speak far more by mimicking mouth movements than by what they actually hear. So what these kids are looking at people’s faces and hearing them speak And so they have speech delay. And rather than acknowledging that, the American Academy of Pediatrics, in cahoots with the CDC, simply changed the guidelines, the milestones for children’s verbal milestones. They don’t need to know as many words now as they used to. These effects, as I said, are profound. We won’t know for probably several decades just how much damage was done. But I found that you know, this report in Rolling Stone to be just nothing but a bunch of clickbait or fear mongering. The idea that we’ve got kids all suffering from this, you know, because they would like you to believe that people who are still selling, you know, the shots are still really pushing that narrative, trying to cover up the harms that were done. They would like you to believe that everything is a result of COVID.
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All these myocarditis cases.
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And all these infertility issues and miscarriages and neurologic conditions, this was all a result of COVID when we know for a fact that it wasn’t because we now have pathology proven. We can show, for example, in these cases of myocarditis, that when you do a biopsy of the heart muscle, that that heart muscle that’s damaged is chocked full of spike proteins from the vaccine. It’s very easy to tell the difference under the microscope between spike proteins that came from the virus And spike proteins that were produced under the direction of the mRNA code because they stain differently. They have a different what’s called a nucleocapsid. They are very different under the microscope. So we can say, no, this was not spike protein from having COVID the virus. This was spike protein because every cell in your body is now a little spike protein factory cranking these bad boys out. at the direction of the mRNA. And so they want you to believe that everything is a result of having had the virus, when in fact, if they would do the study and look at actually, look at people who are unvaccinated for COVID, people like myself, like you, never took one of these shots, never took the single shot, never took a booster for COVID, and start looking at those people. Find out what percentage of those people actually report any symptoms of, quote, long COVID.
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Great point. I’ve got a question along these lines that we’ll help with in a moment. So guys, don’t go anywhere. We’ll come right back again. Dr. Kelly with us today. Again, a total page dedicated to her on our website, giving all of her background and even a lot of the different things that we go through, the studies, different things along those lines. A lot of that is on our website as well. But I’ve got a question we’ll answer as soon as we come back. Dr. Scott Faulkner is next. And again, I had somebody actually ask me earlier today for Scott’s phone number. Hey, How do I get a hold of Dr. Scott? I want to go down and see him. Easy. His number, 303-663-6990.
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And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, text came in. Would Dr. Kelly share a source that I could reference? My wife is a 40-year neonatal nurse in the corporate system and doesn’t believe some of what I’ve cited about low childhood numbers. And, Dr. Kelly, I want to just respond quickly because we’ve talked about this in the past, and I’ll let you give your thoughts. But my thoughts on this have always been, even back when all of this was going on, the amount – of deaths we’re not saying kids didn’t get covered what we’re saying is they didn’t have the same ill effects from covid that most adults not most some let me say it that way as well some adults had because a lot of adults went through covid no big deal and there was a percentage because of other things that dr kelly you and i have talked about numerous times and steve as well as to why that happened but when it came to kids actually having really high struggles with covid there just wasn’t that many cases and the ray i can the way i can prove that is Go back and look at all of the news stories on how many kids actually passed away or really even ended up in the hospital with COVID. And you’ll find that there wasn’t that many news stories. And the reason I say that, Dr. Kelly, and you know where I’m going is, believe me, if kids had been in the hospital with COVID, you would have known because it would have been on every single publication out there.
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One hundred percent. And the reality, John, is that the deaths from covid in children in healthy children, the deaths from children in healthy children, meaning kids who were not on chemotherapy for leukemia, who were not morbidly, morbidly obese with uncontrolled diabetes. I’m talking about reasonably healthy children. Right. The deaths in that group were zero, zero. And that is a fact. Children did not die from COVID. They simply didn’t. There were some cases of kids who, as I said, were profoundly immunocompromised on high-dose chemotherapy for end-stage cancers. There were a couple of children who were morbidly obese with very poorly controlled diabetes. They were running blood sugars in the 300s and 400s. who got ill with COVID. And again, it’s unclear if they actually died from COVID or from complications of the diabetes. But they were in the hospital. They tested positive for COVID. And at the time, and this still continues, the numbers of people who actually died from COVID were grossly inflated because the hospitals were incentivized to do it. The CARES Act gave hospitals, and I’m not talking about an insignificant amount of money, They got somewhere in the range of, depending on what state, $13,000 to $28,000 per admission if COVID was on the admission, which means we had people in the state of Colorado who were victims of motorcycle accidents. That’s right. Gunshots. That’s right. And you had to test everybody in the ER. Somebody would shove a swab up their nose as you’re trying to repair the hole in their heart. They get admitted. If that test was positive, COVID went on the admission because the hospital got this money. And if the patient was in the hospital and died and COVID was on the death certificate, they got forty seven thousand dollars more. So the state of Colorado, when this was brought to you, was forced to go back and recode and take out hundreds and hundreds of supposed deaths. from COVID and say, no, actually, it wasn’t a death from COVID. COVID was an incidental finding when this patient was admitted for their heart attack or their stroke or their car accident or whatever else. So the same thing with these kids. There were children who died in the hospital, quote, and were supposedly had covid. Well, whether or not they had covid had nothing to do with the fact that they were an end stage renal disease. You know, renal failure from from their diabetes or something else. So, you know, I I feel badly for these people who are health care workers who were bamboozled. And that’s what they were. They bought hook, line, and sinker into the lies. They really need to educate themselves, unfortunately. Exactly.
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No, you’re 100% correct.
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And it goes on today. And more and more now, the data are coming out. If you have not seen the film, and I recommend that everybody take an hour and 20 minutes You don’t have to watch it in one full swoop. It’s available online. The film made by Del Bigtree called An Inconvenient Study.
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OK.
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And this is not simply address. It doesn’t address. Really, it’s not about covid vaccines at all. It’s about vaccines. And it helps certainly for somebody like myself who went to medical school. It really highlights the fact that we were lied to. There’s no other way to say it. We were not misled. We were lied to about vaccines, about their safety and about their efficacy. And this film, Hour and 20 Minutes, exposes it. And right now and the crux of the film is that, you know, we’ve been pushing for a long time for a study to be done. We’ve been pushing the CDC for decades and they’ve refused to do it to do a study comparing vaccines. the overall rates of disease in vaccinated people compared to unvaccinated people. And I’m not talking about for COVID. I’m talking about for everything, chickenpox, measles, mumps, shingles, all of that. And that study has been done by small groups of people over and over again, including several physicians who have lost their licenses for daring to do it, because what each of them found was in their practices, if they looked at their pediatric patients who had never been vaccinated because their parents were against it, those children were profoundly healthier than their vaccinated population. But the problem was these were all small studies done by individuals and it needed to be done by a big medical center. So lo and behold, Del Bigtree finally convinced researchers at Henry Ford, one of the biggest research centers in the United States, Henry Ford Medical Center in Michigan to do the study. And they did. And they did it to the T using the CDC’s white paper on how you would design the perfect study to do this. So they followed the CDC’s guidelines. They looked at thousands and thousands of children, some who had been vaccinated and thousands who had never had a vaccine in their lives. And they found rates Five, six times higher rates of everything from asthma, eczema, psoriasis, food allergies, irritable bowel syndrome, and wait for it, yes, all these neuropsychiatric disorders, ADHD, hyperactivity, all of these things, learning disabilities. And when the study was done, which is done, they refused to publish it. Wow. Wow. They won’t publish it. They won’t publish it. So watch this film. Del Bigtree exposes it. He goes undercover with a camera and a microphone to catch, to finally to get the lead researcher to say, I would lose my job. If I publish it, I will lose my job, my career will be over, and I won’t do it. He’s a bad person, but I won’t do it.
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For everything you just said, for this text or texting, and I would encourage your spouse to – I just went ahead and used ChatGPT, which we all know that AI can have its – pluses and its minuses dr kelly and i’m not saying that it’s the the end all but i think it in this particular case i think it’s a fairly reliable source because it’s going out and looking at all of the you know basically public data on the discussion we just had so i just looked it up and first thing i did is i said okay let’s let’s how many kids this is in 2021 because there could have been a few in 2020 but i used 2021 doesn’t matter all in all Eight hundred twenty one deaths of kids under the age of 19, by the way. So that’s 19 and under. Eight hundred or eight hundred twenty one. I then asked Chad GBT, OK, for that same year, what was the childhood population in America? Seventy two point eight million. So if you do the math on it, that is point zero zero zero zero one one. of kids actually died from COVID, Dr. Kelly, meaning it’s insignificant.
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Right, and that’s if you believe, you know, the death of any child is tragic. Well, of course, but is it COVID only? That’s what I’m saying. Right. So if you actually teased out, you know, did these children what was this child in the hospital getting, you know, after his, you know, kidney transplant, you know, was he dead that he tested positive for covid? And then in other words, what I’m saying is because the numbers were falsified. We know that they were. And the reason back to this person who texted the reason I’m suggesting this film for somebody who is a health care practitioner is because it doesn’t. focus on COVID. It focuses on the bigger picture. We’ve been lied to. We’ve been lied to over and over again.
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Well, in this article that I was reading out of Rolling Stone, of course, Dr. Kelly, again, in that article even, it talks about how this particular writer had interviewed, quote-unquote, dozens of kids who in this particular scenario of having quote-unquote long COVID. Okay, well, wait a minute. Is it a dozen? In other words, is it 12? Is it 36? Is it 15? In other words, we don’t know. I mean, he’s already exaggerated about hundreds of thousands of kids because we know there’s not even that many that were really affected by COVID in the first place. So he’s exaggerating. I don’t know if it was a he or she, but this writer has exaggerated already in the headline. How do I know it’s dozens, by the way, Dr. Kelly? We don’t.
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Yeah. No, no. But I think that it just is so important for you to understand, would they be deceitful about COVID?
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Yes.
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Go back and look how deceitful they were about everything else. Absolutely. Unfortunately, a neonatal nurse. is aware of the fact that, you know, the current schedule, I’m sure that she sees and perhaps even administers if she’s in a NICU nurse, she may be one of the people administering that hepatitis B vaccine that’s given on day one of birth. Absolute, you know, Absolutely unjustifiable. A vaccine that, you know, you can check me on this. If you go and pull the brochure out of, you know, the thing, the insert, the package insert on that, and a nurse can certainly do that. Pull it out, go to Section 6.1, which is the same for all vaccines, every single vaccine, all 80%. bazillion of them when you pull out the package insert section 6.1 has the safety data tells you what safety tests were done on this vaccine and it will tell you for hepatitis b that the hepatitis b vaccine that is given to every newborn baby on day one of birth was tested on before it went to market a total of 147 patients wow That’s a whole study, 147 patients, and they followed them for, wait for it, a total of five days.
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Wow.
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That’s not enough.
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That is five days. My goodness. If you get a vaccine and you develop myocarditis 30 days later, you’d never pick that up. You’d never know. You’d never know if the child developed seizures on day six.
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That’s right.
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You’d never know.
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What about two years later?
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Correct. That’s why we demand for all these other drugs, years and years of testing. But I would encourage anybody, if you don’t believe, we’ve all become so trusting in our government and in our political leaders and in our public health leaders that we just, even as healthcare professionals, go along. We don’t pull out the safety data and look and say, is this thing actually what was it actually tested on can you imagine giving would you take an antibiotic that had been tested on 147 people for five days no right i wouldn’t take a high blood pressure medication that had been tested on a total of 147 people and they wanted to watch them for five days they were okay didn’t nothing bad happened in the first five days oh great You know, I mean, this is insanity.
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I got another text message that said, and I don’t know if this is being facetious or if this is a real question. It doesn’t matter. The question is, why did they lie? What was their endgame? And my answer back on this text message is multiple dollar signs and control, Dr. Kelly, is my answer.
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Yeah, 100 percent. It’s about the it’s about the money. It’s all about the control.
SPEAKER 12 :
And let’s not forget the control factor as well. They were able to literally through covid and including the vaccine as well. They literally they controlled the masses. I mean, Dr. Kelly, you and I are in the control group of about eight, about 15 to 18 percent that did not get the vaccine. So it shows you how many people bought into all of that in the control. They shut down businesses. They shut down schools. They shut down churches. They had people scared to death. People wouldn’t travel. They wouldn’t leave their home. I mean, at the end of the day, people gave up freedom for safety, which I’ve never seen in our country before. It was a huge test to see exactly what they could get by with, and we failed.
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No, 100%. And I’ve said this for a long time, and people really, I don’t think, understand just how much input Big Pharma has. Big Pharma owns the medical schools. They give millions and millions and millions of dollars in, quote, research grants. to Duke University, and every, you know, all of them, they all get millions of dollars from Big Pharma. Henry Ford Medical Center is supported by Big Pharma. They are not going to, you know, they know where their bread is buttered. Absolutely they do.
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Absolutely they do. I mean, unless you’ve got, and we’ll come back here in a moment and talk about another study that has come out of late, but unless you get full, independent, outside of that arena studies done, Dr. Kelly, and the problem is funding those becomes very difficult, as you know. So at the end of the day, somebody typically has their hand on the needle, if you would, or on the pulse of what’s going on, because they know in the end if this thing comes out badly for them, they lose money.
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Exactly. And many of them made, you know, people like Anthony Fauci and many people at the CDC made money personally. That’s right. So isn’t just that they made they actually the number of people at our own CDC who own royalties on patents on some of these vaccines. They are personally, including Anthony Fauci, made millions of dollars personally. I mean, that is so corrupt.
SPEAKER 12 :
That is such a conflict of interest.
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That’s right.
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So anyways, what was the end game? I mean, I think, you know, I’m not trying to be rude here, but good grief. It’s pretty apparent what the end game was, Dr. Kelly. To me, it was apparent from day one.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. And so if you look at it, and the reason it’s so, it’s with all pharmaceuticals, but the reason it’s so profound with vaccines is this. Number one, if you think about the big cost drivers, say, you know, you’re making widgets or you’re making a car, you’re a car guy, you’re making a car. The big cost drivers, in addition to the actual, you know, steel that goes into making the actual automobile is number one. marketing right you gotta you gotta sell that huge cost driver you gotta get out there and number two is liability okay you gotta cover you gotta cover yourself for liability if something goes wrong you gotta have a lot of insurance okay those are two big cost drivers you’re making something right if you’re a vaccine manufacturer you just hit the lottery because number one there’s a vaccine schedule that’s created by the cdc so you don’t have to market it at all true It’s already being done for you.
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And really quick, as an example, for all of you listening, because you’ve heard me talk about this plenty, it’s like the government mandating whether you’re going to drive an EV vehicle or not. In that case, and I’ve talked about this in depth outside of you, Dr. Kelly, but when it comes to EVs, the problem with them today is with all the subsidies going away and the credits and so on, Now these car companies are trying to figure out, gosh, how do we actually market a car that up until now we didn’t have to? In other words, they didn’t have to have the marketing budgets on those vehicles like they did because government was involved pushing said product exactly like vaccines. It’s no different.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. So if you can’t go to school without getting this list of vaccines, the vaccine company has to spend zero dollars marketing, not one penny, because the school’s going to do it for you, the CDC’s doing it for you, okay, your pediatrician’s going to do it. They don’t spend a dime on that. So that line item goes to zero. The second line item that goes to zero is the liability. Because after the Childhood Vaccine Injury Act was passed in 1986, the vaccine manufacturers got blanket liability. They can’t be sued. So that line item goes to zero. We don’t have to have the liability protection because we can’t be held liable. So it’s all profit.
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Billions upon billions of dollars.
SPEAKER 03 :
Correct. Correct. It’s a scam.
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The best export we have is Common Sense. You’re listening to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 12 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Dr. Kelly Victory with us. Okay, Dr. Kelly, this is one that I read through briefly, honestly, with everything that’s been going on with me the last week or so. I just haven’t had the time to read a lot of things intently. I can see the overview and so on, but I haven’t read every single word. And there was an article that Steve sent you and I both. on a bombshell vax versus unvax study finally sheds or finally sees the light of day. And again, I will let you explain that because I did not have a chance to read that entire article.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, that’s the study that I’m talking about. That’s that one from Henry Ford. Right, okay. They won’t, yes, that’s the one that I’m talking about that, unfortunately, you know, Henry Ford is sending cease and desist orders to Del Bigtree telling me you can’t be reporting on this. They refuse to publish it. But the reality is, you know, we’ve seen the preprint. We have it. And Henry Ford is now saying, oh, there’s lots of problems with the study. You know, it wasn’t done correctly. You know, all of this hand-waving. And this study was done, frankly, as I said, exactly per the CDC’s guidelines, you know, in response to we’ve been asking the CDC to do this study for years. And rather than doing it back in 2020, what they did instead was they wrote a white paper on how you would do a study if you were to do one. So that’s what Henry Ford used as their guideline for it. But that’s the study that he was referencing. And again, one of the things that Del Bigtree asks in this documentary is, you know, why aren’t all the other big medical centers out, you know, doing this same thing? They’ve all got huge databases. They all know they’d be able to verify easily do exactly what Henry Ford medical center did, you know, look at their populations of unvaccinated children and compare the rates there. You’ve got the insurance claims, you know, what the, you know, who’s got what diseases and what illnesses and what claims and the, you know, I have my own suspicion, but I’ll tell you right now, if you, if they thought they could prove how great vaccines were by doing that study, If they could show that vaccinated kids are way healthier, don’t you think they would have done it?
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely, Dr. Kelly.
SPEAKER 03 :
There’s only one reason they haven’t done it.
SPEAKER 12 :
First of all, you know, you would know far more about it because that sort of a study you just explained, by the way, would be on the front page everywhere because it’d be one of their biggest selling tools they’ve got. So absolutely, they would be talking about it, Dr. Kelly. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 03 :
Of course. And so, you know, one of the big issues with all of it, and again, I’m trying to highlight this is not about just COVID. This is about the entire vaccine schedule, not a single one of the childhood vaccines, not a one. had a double-blinded placebo trial, meaning that there isn’t a single one where they come up with this new vaccine, they give a group of people the vaccine, and they give a group of people a placebo, meaning saline. They give them a shot of salt water. That’s how you do it. And then you follow them all along and see if there are any bad outcomes. Not a single one was done successfully. And that goes back to, you know, polio and all the rest of them. So all of the vaccines were only tested against another vaccine, which is not that would be. That’s not how you do it. Here’s a good good analogy. And Dell uses this. If if I were trying to show that, you know, drinking 10 shots of whiskey causes people to have car accidents. And I was trying to say, no, that’s not true. You know, I make whiskey and that’s not true. I would give a bunch of people 10 shots of whiskey and then I’d give a bunch of other people 10 shots of water. And then we have them drive, you know, a test drive and see who crashed the car, right?
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Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
But if you’re the whiskey company and you’re doing this study, you’d say, no, no, that’s not how I’m going to do it. I’m going to give a big group of people 10 shots of whiskey and I’m going to give the other group, the control group, 10 shots of vodka. and then we’re going to have them both drive the course. And lo and behold, see, there were no more crashes in the whiskey group. Right, right. So whiskey is safe. It doesn’t cause car crashes.
SPEAKER 11 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s how the vaccines work. That’s tantamount to how they did the vaccine studies. They didn’t compare it against saline. They didn’t compare it against a placebo. They compared it against, quote, another vaccine. And that’s like comparing whiskey and vodka and saying, therefore, whiskey doesn’t cause car crashes.
SPEAKER 12 :
I had a text message that came in a second ago. Would you mention the name of the film one more time? And I will put that in my show notes as well.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, it’s called An Inconvenient Study.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
And you should be able to find it online. And even, frankly, if you’re on Twitter, if you just go to search on Twitter and put in an inconvenient study, Dell Big Tree, it’ll come up. It’s free. You can just watch it on your computer. As I said, you don’t have to watch it in one fell swoop. But it’s really, I think, illustrative of The big fat lie that started way before covid.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. Right. Good point.
SPEAKER 03 :
This wasn’t this isn’t the first time that the powers that be have lied to you at all. And it’s time that we stop gaslighting people. Unfortunately, these mRNA vaccines eclipsed. all other vaccines in terms of the damage that’s done.
SPEAKER 12 :
Damage revenue, you know, on down the line we go. I mean, this one has been, you know, a home run, if you would, for big pharma, because, you know, again, we’ve talked about it a ton. And I know I, you know, Hate to keep going over some of this stuff, but we’ve got questions that have come in today and people that evidently are, in some cases, Dr. Kelly, maybe haven’t heard some of the things that we’ve even been mentioning over the past five plus years now. Reality is, yeah, this was a home run for the pharmaceuticals. And I did get a text message a moment ago that said, wait a minute, it’s hard to believe that politicians in our government would go along with this. Yeah, no. And by the way, there were a few bold politicians, the Rand Pauls and so on, that spoke out against some of these things. I’m not saying every politician, but far too many of them, by the way, for all of you listening, are in the back pockets of the politicians are in their back. Sorry, Big Pharma is in the back pockets of a lot of these politicians. They give in all sorts of ways to their campaigns and so on. And the sad thing, Dr. Kelly, is the majority of politicians have been bought out by Big Pharma.
SPEAKER 03 :
In the millions of dollars, John. I mean, it is millions. Big Pharma is the largest lobby in Washington, D.C. Right. Think about that. Right. Okay? They are so powerful. They own the mainstream media. I mean, own it. There’s a reason that you won’t hear any of this on the mainstream media. Even, you know, one of the sort of more conservative, or used to be, news outlets, Fox News, Roger Ailes, their former CEO, said that he really wanted to get pharmaceutical advertising off of his network and not have it. But he couldn’t because they represented 70 percent of Fox News’s advertising revenue. came from big pharma.
SPEAKER 1 :
70%.
SPEAKER 03 :
You better believe you’re not going to hear any of their newscasters saying bad things or reporting anything negative about any drug or certainly a because they would lose the advertising dollars. So Big Pharma owns the mainstream media. They own the, quote, medical journals, which are nothing more than marketing rags for Big Pharma. They own the medical schools. They own the research laboratories. And until we stop that, until we can, we are not going to ever have true scientific integrity. You will never get the real data. And this, you know, one of the things I think that’s sort of most profound in this documentary, an inconvenient study, is that the researcher at Henry Ford, who’s, you know, being captured unknowingly on film and audio, says, I’m a bad person. It’s not worth it to me. I’m not going to lose my job. I don’t want to be Peter McCullough. You know, my colleague, Peter, people like, listen, I got hold in front of the medical board seven times during COVID to defend my medical license. It’s exhausting. It’s emotionally debilitating. It is demoralizing. I did it and successfully defended myself seven times. But nobody gives you those days of your life back. No, they don’t. Good point. The tens of thousands of dollars that you spend defending yourself. That’s right. And so it’s not that I don’t understand his sphere, this researcher’s sphere, and that he would… But the reality is, you know, virtue untested is no virtue at all. We are called in this world to stand up for what is hard.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s exactly right.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, I have a mortgage to pay, too, like everybody else. I got bills. I got a mortgage to pay. You know, I didn’t want my reputation. I was smeared up one side and down the other, you know, including by the Denver Post, you know, writing just hit pieces that had not a shred of truth to them. But they can say anything and they make your life a living hell. But unfortunately, we are called out. to stand up for what’s right and to protect our patients and to try to inform the public about what’s really going on. And when people say to me, I don’t know who to trust, what I say is, you know what? Trust the people who took it on the chin, who risked everything to tell the truth. I don’t get paid a dime. I don’t get paid a dime to go on your show. I don’t get paid a dime to go. I mean, I’ve done this for free for years. And not just, you know, yours isn’t the only show I do. No, you do a lot of them.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, absolutely, Dr. Kelly. No, you do a ton of these. And for those of you listening where you think at times, you know, maybe, yeah, I listen to these guys, but, you know, maybe they’re being a little bit more, you know, exaggerationist than they should be, this, that, and the other. I will tell you this, Dr. Kelly, and I just got one a moment ago. I’m not going to get into details because people ask me to keep these things private. But I can tell you, Dr. Kelly, every single time we talk about this, I get several text messages in on people that know people. Direct contact, sometimes family members, coworkers, whatever the case, whereby they got the shot, they were healthy, there were no problems, and now they’ve got, you know, turbo cancers and a lot of the things that you and I have spoke about over the past several years. You know, every single time we talk about this, I get somebody new that texts me one of those sorts of things. Now, all of you listening, if that weren’t happening, how would I be getting those text messages in every single time we talk about it?
SPEAKER 03 :
It is insane, John. Every day of my life now, I’ve almost gotten numb to it. And you see it every day, the 28-year-old professional badminton player drops dead in the middle of a match. I have the number of my own personal friends and family who have developed horrific disease, autoimmune illnesses, these turbo cancers. heart issues, inexplicable things. So, yes, harms were done. I do believe Rand Paul is really on the warpath to bring Anthony Fauci to accountability. I don’t know if it will ever happen.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes, because somebody asked me that too, the accountability side of it. Yeah, good luck. I don’t know. That I have no answer to either.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I’ve said I don’t think it will ever happen. Me neither. But Rand Paul at least has said – that if Fauci doesn’t come in and testify willingly, that they will subpoena him. They’re going to force him to testify. He perjured himself more than once. He lied up one side and down the other about his involvement. in transferring this research over to the lab in Wuhan. They knew darn well that this was a lab-created virus. We have the receipts. We have the emails showing that they tried to cover it up. It’s all being exposed now. And whether there will be actual accountability, I cannot say. But, boy, I really… applaud those people like a Rand Paul who’s willing to go out on a limb and say, this is wrong, and it needs to be exposed.
SPEAKER 12 :
Dr. Kelly, again, a fast-paced show today, covered some things, and I know for some of you listening, been kind of a history lesson, if you would, a repeat of, but, you know, Things that you guys all still need to know. The one thing we talked about today that we haven’t covered much before is the movie, Inconvenient Study. Go watch that as well. And again, Dr. Kelly, we’ll just keep at this. We keep bringing this awareness up. More and more people learn. I get all sorts of thank yous from folks as we do this on a weekly basis, and we’ll keep doing it. So I appreciate all you do.
SPEAKER 03 :
Sounds great. We’ll talk soon.
SPEAKER 12 :
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That’s it for this hour. Another hour coming your way. Don’t go anywhere. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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