Join John Rush as he welcomes Dr. Kelly Victory and Steve House to discuss pivotal changes and predictions for the year 2026. From healthcare reforms that are set to redefine patient care to the intricate web of international politics involving Venezuela, the episode offers a comprehensive analysis of factors influencing both domestic and global landscapes. This thought-provoking discussion also touches on the consequences of past political decisions and the preparations necessary for future challenges, including the possibility of new pandemics.
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And okay, we are ready. Here we go. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Welcome to another edition, Thursday edition. Dr. Kelly Victory with us, Steve House as well. I’ll start with Dr. Kelly. Dr. Kelly, welcome to 2026.
SPEAKER 15 :
Hey, and Happy New Year. Glad to be back with you guys. All good things in 2026.
SPEAKER 11 :
There we go. Steve as well, welcome. Happy 2026 to you as well.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and you guys, I came off a robust, happy festivus celebration, and I’m ready to go in 2026.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yep. We are dialed in. And OK, so along those lines, Dr. Kelly, you know, nobody’s got a crystal ball or anything along those lines. But let’s start off. I sort of threw this in my notes initially. Didn’t tell you guys this, but predictions for 2026. What do you see happening as we head down the road here in 2026? You know, not just on the health care side, but maybe even, you know, midterm elections and so on. What are your thoughts?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I’ll say I’ll take a first bite at that. I think that all of the predictions that Republicans are going to get shellacked in the midterms elections, I think, are off. I think there’s just too much good going on with wars ending, borders getting closed. Prices coming down, jobs being, you know, job market improving, housing market improving. I think that we’re going to do just fine in the midterm elections. That’s my prediction. I think that there are some seats opening up, and I’ll leave this to Steve to fill in far more detail. But I think there are some seats that we might pick up in places like even the governorship in Chicago. Minnesota. With regard to health care, I think we’ve made some monumental changes for the good through HHS. We can talk more about that during this hour, I hope, with regard to the food pyramid, the vaccine schedule, and that sort of thing. These are not inconsequential changes. It might not be everything we wanted all at once, but it is a heck of a good start, and we’ve got a head of steam behind us that I think will continue into the new year.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, good. You know what? That’s a good take. Steve, your thoughts?
SPEAKER 05 :
I think the House is going to be close and it’s going to be close because it’s still a midterm and midterms tend to follow patterns that rarely are off. I don’t think the Senate will be close. I think we will retain the Senate. We may pick up a seat in the Senate. The map is better for us. I think if the House, if we lose the House, they will impeach Trump at least once. probably not in 2026 obviously but beyond that so not interested in seeing that i do think hhs has done some positive things i think this is going to be the year that we see major major push again on drug pricing i think i think it’s got to go down they’ve got to fix that problem i’m unfortunately going to tell you that i don’t think pharma commercials will be off tv by the end of this year okay which i wish they were off tv by the end of this year and i also think that the The political environment, especially with the influence of Venezuela oil and some of that stuff going on, could make it a very turbulent year with China and Russia. On the other hand, I think American power and Trump being even more powerful will also help him facilitate a pretty good midterm outlook.
SPEAKER 11 :
I don’t know that I can disagree with either one of you. And some of that, by the way, as you guys know, has changed probably since the last couple of months of us talking and really thinking through 2026, a lot of developments and things that have happened over the last couple of months. The other thing, too, Steve, I want to throw this back to you that I think may very well help in the midterms would be Depending upon how the shakeup at the Fed happens and who actually replaces Jerome Powell, and I think Donald Trump has probably already got a pretty good idea of who that’s going to be, that also is going to help economically speaking. And, of course, it’s that old saying, it’s the economy, stupid. And I think by the time we get to the midterms, if we can get things rolling along quickly enough with the new Fed chair, that will also happen.
SPEAKER 05 :
One little interesting thing that Jerome Powell could do, I mean, he’s stepping down because he needs to step down and there’s a term, but he also could stay on the Fed. If he stays on the Fed, that limits Trump’s choices to an existing Fed governor to be his successor. At least that’s what I believe. And so Powell and his team could actually hurt Trump on what he wants to do in terms of picking somebody, although there’s some good people on the Fed that I think would be good. The better solution would be not to appoint a Fed chair, just disband the body. But I don’t think that’s happening in 2026.
SPEAKER 11 :
Now, Dr. Kelly, your thoughts on all that?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, I agree with you, and I think we’re pontificating on some things that, you know, it’s so early. It is the middle of January, just too early to say. I think I’m focusing more on things that are certain to happen with regard to health care, changes in the tax code, those sorts of things. The chips will fall where they may. I mean, historically, and Steve is, again, better able to speak about this, historically, the party in power does lose seats during the midterm. I mean, that’s a historical reality. It just independent of how well you’re doing. The other side always seems to pick up seats. I don’t you know, I think that we have been doing very well. I think if Trump can stay to his current behavior has been awesome. He’s really, I think, hasn’t been poking the bear too much. He’s been very presidential from my perspective. And I think that we will not lose significant seats, if any at all.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right, shifting gears a little bit, and Steve, I do think this has a huge impact. You mentioned this a moment ago in regards to Venezuela. I talked about this earlier in the week. And to your point, big impact. And I don’t think folks really quite understand, and probably rightfully so, because there’s so many things happening in the world, and even in our own little worlds, there’s a lot of things happening, and we don’t necessarily understand. think big picture-wise, but when it comes to Venezuela with especially, well, three things actually, Cuba, Russia, China, but Russia, China especially, Steve, I don’t think most people, I’m not sure even some politicians, really understand the brevity of what just happened there and how hugely impactful that’s going to be upon Russia and China both.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I mean, the simple fact is your enemy, China’s number one enemy, probably Russia’s number one enemy as well, and us, has taken out a leader of a country that has 303 billion barrels of oil in the ground, which is the largest single deposit, and China gets 70% of their oil from them. If somebody said to you, we’re going to cut off 70% of your ability to get oil in the United States, it would be draconian. And I guarantee you that China – China knows from the tariff battle that they don’t have the kind of power over the United States that they thought they did. Now the United States has got them by the throat. I hope it doesn’t turn into something really, really ugly, but I’m worried about where this is going.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and along those lines, I’ll keep this in mind as well. When you start pushing because of what’s happened and you start seeing the price of oil do what it’s doing and it’s now hovering below – I didn’t look today, but yesterday it was $57 a barrel. I’ll look really quick here to see where it’s at. Typically, with everything that’s happened the last couple of days, it’s hovering $58. So it’s up a buck from yesterday. So $58 a barrel. The one thing that that does do, Steve, as you know, is not only the supply chain from Venezuela to Russia in this particular case because of the war happening in Ukraine, you’re significantly lowering the war chest rate. of Putin as far as the dollars he’s collecting on the oil that he’s actually selling via the black market, by the way, meaning, as you know, his stuff has to get sold out at about half price, otherwise nobody buys it because it’s not supposed to be bought in the first place. So at the end of the day, what Donald Trump just did over the weekend was significantly impact the war chest of Putin.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, there’s no question. At a time when he’s trying to get Putin to do what he wants, I mean, you know, this is – I never thought about it until I started to really understand Venezuela. I understood what Chavez did. I understood the fact that they screwed up infrastructure. The U.S. has never invested a dollar of its taxpayer money in oil infrastructure in Venezuela. So it’s not that issue. But you’re right when you start to restrict that. And then, of course, Trump’s next move is he wants Greenland. Well, he wants Greenland because he wants to tie up shipping lanes that would hurt Russia further.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
So he’s clearly – I mean, China comes – Because their demand and need for Venezuelan oil is so significant. Russia comes because of all the factors you talked about. And if he somehow ties up Greenland, he’s got both of them by the throat. I don’t know whether that’s completely a good thing or not. I guess we’ll see.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, again, who knows? These are things, Dr. Kelly, that I’ve learned over the years where there are things that I probably would do things differently, but on the same token, I’m always quick to remind myself, I don’t have all the same facts in front of me that some of these guys have. In other words, I don’t have all the inside baseball knowledge, Dr. Kelly, that they have, and You have to believe that they know things we don’t. And frankly, the average American shouldn’t know either. These are secrets that nobody needs to know. And I think in a lot of cases, that’s where those decisions are based.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, I agree with you. And although I don’t believe in constantly advocating to the government and saying, you know, they know better, in this particular case, John, I think you’re right. There are intricacies that we don’t understand. To wit, look what happened with Venezuela. I loved the fact that the president didn’t even apprise Congress of what he was planning on doing with Maduro because they would have leaked it.
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That’s right. Everybody knows it.
SPEAKER 15 :
That’s right. Frankly, that is the harsh reality. They would have leaked it. They carried out with precision an unbelievable military action, which the president had every right to do, by the way. And it was brilliant. And you don’t necessarily have to fill the American people or the rest of government in on those things. So yes, I think that some of these things we simply don’t understand all the conversations going on behind closed doors. There’s, I’m sure, a lot of jockeying and deal-making happening there. There’s a quid pro quo that goes on in every government. Some of it unsavory, but it is what it is. And so a lot of times I think you just have to trust. If you trust the people, and I happen to have a relative amount of trust in the people running this particular administration, then I think you just have to go with it sometimes.
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This is Rush to Reason. And we are back, and this is our first episode on this Thursday edition, Dr. Kelly Victory and Steve House of 2026. And let’s do this. Steve, you sent, I think it was you that sent a clip, and this is an older clip, but it’s resurfaced, of Glenn Beck talking about, I believe it’s Dr. Barrett, and going all the way back to 2015 in regards to mRNA, COVID, all the different things that were happening, and really, I guess, in a way, proving, not I guess, but proving that that a lot of that was known far in advance, in this case, five years prior to, you know, COVID being, you know, quote, unquote, released. And I believe it was, in fact, released. We’ve talked about that many times on this program. But it’s interesting that these, you know, some, what do we got, 10 years later now in this particular case, because 2015, it’s not 10 years later, these things are resurfacing again. And I just always wonder, Steve, is anybody ever going to figure this out and put two and two together?
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, I think it’s been figured out. I think the reason why you see this stuff is think about how politics works because this is so much politics, right? I mean, Chuck Schumer says, 10, 20 different things that are controversial in a 40-year career in the U.S. Senate, and many of them are completely opposite of what he’s saying now, so people bring it up. That’s one thing. That’s a political, you know, belief structure. This is actual evidence, information that people knowingly did something wrong regarding COVID, regarding building vaccines ahead of time and patents. They knowingly did something wrong. This is the kind of evidence that should put you in jail. But it’ll never happen because the moment they start bringing down bureaucrats in the U.S. government at the level that they should, nobody will want to work for the government again. I don’t think anyone should want to work for the government.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I can’t argue that.
SPEAKER 05 :
On the bottom line.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I can’t argue that at all. Dr. Kelly, your thoughts on all of that?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, I agree. And I think that it is irrefutable that we have the evidence. We have the receipts. We’ve got documents. We’ve got emails. We’ve got conversations between officials where they are acknowledging exactly what happened. We know everything from the fact that this was a planned attack. that the virus was manufactured, that, you know, everything. We have all of it. We know that they tried to cover it up. We know that U.S. taxpayer dollars were used for gain of function. We know that they knew that masks didn’t work and that social distancing was made up, that the lockdown wasn’t warranted. that they were lying to the president. We have all of this. Deborah Burke said it in her book. They were dishonest with the president because they knew if they told the truth, they wouldn’t get what they wanted. We have all of this. It is so black and white, yet Steve is absolutely correct there will never be any accountability and this is one of my real problems with our government particularly this is on you know to our own you know conservative side where is the accountability remember how they were going to go after hillary clinton for lying but they didn’t anthony fauci perjured himself over and over nothing happens You know, the woman who lied and perjured herself against Brett Kavanaugh. Remember, after he got confirmed to the Supreme Court, they were going to go after her. You know, Blasey Ford. They didn’t go. They don’t. There’s never any follow up. They just move on. And so with impunity, these people will lie, cheat and steal. They will do it again. I guarantee that, you know, Gates and Fauci and the rest of them, have up their sleeve another pandemic to roll out, and it’ll be sooner than you think.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and I guess that’s the next question. Go ahead, Steve. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 05 :
So after what Kelly just said, I’m reminded of the fact that several doctors, several very, very prominent physicians, including our friend Peter McCullough, lost board certification just recently cardiology board certification peter may have been internal medicine as well in peter’s case so so the government won’t hold anyone accountable and then the individual bodies in medicine like a board certifying group like the cardiologist will absolutely hold Peter responsible for telling the truth because they didn’t want people to know the truth. How the heck did they get to hold him accountable when the government does absolutely nothing?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, yeah, no, well said. And along those lines, you know, Dr. Kelly, kind of throwing this back to you, you know, the reality is lots of individuals involved in the things that we’re talking about. You said a moment ago that you would not be shocked to see, you know, some sort of another, you know, COVID pandemic, you know, down the road sooner than we think. By the way, I can’t disagree with you on that. I think all they’re, in my opinion, all they’re waiting for is literally the dust to settle from one. People have short memories. They start forgetting what was actually done during that time. People grow older. Babies are born and so on. Families change. And eventually time goes past to the point to where even younger kids today don’t even remember or know anything about 9-11. And in some cases, I’m sorry to say, don’t care to know anything about 9-11. You know, 9-11. So as time goes by, memories fail or fade even. And at that point in time, yeah, can they throw another one out there? Absolutely. In fact, I think we learned through this last one, Dr. Kelly, that the reality is far too many people, far too many. Well, let’s do the math. Eighty percent of people, for the most part, gave up freedom for, quote unquote, security, even though it wasn’t.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, exactly right. And that’s why I think, you know, you cannot count on the idea that, you know, people, quote, learned their lesson. There’s certainly quite a few people who have said, you know, never again. I would never allow this to happen again. But, man, all you have to do is walk through a major airport like I do on a regular basis.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 15 :
And you’ll still see the mask wearers. You still see, you know, I don’t get on a plane when at least half a dozen people around me are swabbing down the seats. You know, with the little handy alcohol pad that the flight attendant hands out when you get on the plane. It is there’s a degree of of obsession with regard to your fear of bacteria. Oh, yeah. It’s just paranoia that didn’t exist. prior to the pandemic very true so i think you know it’s not entirely clear that even the people saying oh i won’t fall for it again that some percentage of those folks will fall for it again because they will change it that you know they’ll change it up just enough they’re not stupid they’ll change it up it’ll be just a little spin on it it won’t be you know another respiratory virus yeah
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, thank you. In fact, I was going to throw that out at you. I would say that that would be the last thing that it would be. It’ll be some other form of, I don’t know, internal, you know, flu-like, you know, stomach bug, whatever. I mean, you can go down the list of things that can come up, Dr. Kelly.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right, it’ll be foodborne or something else. Some other reason why they can exact… all of the you know control issues again it might not be masking and social distancing it might be you know you can’t eat meat you can’t eat this because you know that you know that’s what’s right that’s the vector for the big bad thing that’s out there it’s the meat it’s the dairy it’s the fruit it’s the vegetables who the heck knows they’ll come up with enough of a difference that there will be a percentage of people who fall for it again.
SPEAKER 12 :
Very true.
SPEAKER 15 :
And despite all of the insanity, the total lack of science, and when people say to me, well, when that happens, I don’t know who, I’ve lost all faith in healthcare. I’ve lost all faith in in our public health leaders. I’ve lost all faith, and I understand. They say, you know, who do we turn to? And what I say over and over again is turn to the people who got it right the last time.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s right. That’s right.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay?
SPEAKER 11 :
No, you’re right. Absolutely. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 15 :
Tune in to the people who told you the truth the last time and paid, by the way, a mighty price for doing it.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 15 :
But that’s who you turn to.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s right. Okay, Steve, in all of this, and I don’t disagree with anything Dr. Kelly just said, it will be something that they will still be able to throw out there. It will get the attention of people. They’ll be able to use it for control. So I guess the question for you, and this is something maybe I could even shove into my preparedness program I do on Fridays from 2 to 3, Ready Radio, but reality is, given some of what was just said by Dr. Kelly a moment ago, What do folks do to prep themselves better so that if, and it’s not if, it’s when that comes along, they’re better prepared?
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, it’s really two things. One thing we’ve been talking about for a long time, which is, you know, get the 8,000-plus steps in, you know, exercise. Right. You know, make sure you’ve got the quality food on hand because the last thing you want is to starve because you have no food on hand. But the other thing is you have to get more prepared physically. intellectually with how things happen true you know because i think people get you know people get stuck you know why will another pandemic happen because you know two things one is there’s certain people in this country who want the government to play a bigger role in their life good point like it when that happens they like it when they don’t have to make decisions when somebody else is telling them what to do so so there is that i think people need to get more intellectually prepared and i also think that part of that problem john is when you listen to the political narrative now It’s been this way for 20 plus years. It’s still wholly negative. Right. I mean, the other guy’s horrible. He’s bad. Right. We need some people that actually want to lead people somewhere that made sense and somewhere might be be prepared, better prepared for covid or another disaster like this. and do it in a way that’s intellectually sound and prepares you to have the conservative argument at the same time. Just being negative is not helping people. I’m kind of tired of it.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, and I agree with that. And Dr. Kelly, going back to you, I mean, I think that’s where… to your point, even our program and all of what we did through COVID, literally all the way back to, you know, you joined us in August of 2020. Steve and I were talking about things even before that. Yeah, there were times where I’ll be the first to admit, Steve, there was probably a little bit of negativity on our part, given everything that was going on and how government was handling things and so on. But really, at the end of the day, we were trying to be positive dr kelly and informing people of hey eat this do that get your vitamin d levels up get your exercise in don’t worry don’t fret don’t let those things bog you down i mean at the end of the day while there was maybe a hint of negativity at times because of how we felt at the end of the day we were trying to help people be a lot more positive and look at the outcome much differently than what government was trying to do
SPEAKER 15 :
I can say 100%. That has been my mantra all along. It’s facts, not fear. I coined that phrase, facts, not fear. No fear, no negativity, empowerment. First of all, your God-given immune system will take care of you if you take care of it. Start with that. You have power. We’ve got to give power back to people. That’s what the medical freedom movement is all about. And I am front and center in the medical freedom movement. I’m saying people, we need to empower people to take control of their own health care, not allow the government to leave us around by the nose. We are a free people. We have bodily autonomy. All of these things, these are not meant to be negative and certainly not meant to instill fear. It’s to actually say we can stand up and say, no, you cannot mandate us to participate in a medical experiment. We won’t do it. You cannot force us to give up our civil liberties. We won’t do it. And we won’t do it for the illusion of safety. and security. That’s not what made this country great. So I agree. This is all about, you know, sometimes you got to give people some tough love, but it’s certainly not about fear. It’s certainly not about negativity. It’s quite the opposite. I think we have everything within our power to get beyond this.
SPEAKER 11 :
Steve, one of the things we talk about a lot, and since we’re talking now 2026, heading down the road, a lot of folks will be looking at different health insurance plans and things like that, and I am one. And again, we’ve partnered up with folks even like Dr. Scott, a concierge doctor, and I’m one, Steve, where A lot of what we’re talking about, you and Dr. Kelly, even comes down to, okay, what type of insurance plan do you have? And I can’t tell people what to do when it comes to their own insurance. I don’t know their health. I don’t know what their risk factor is like and so on. But I do know this from my own well-being. The better you care for yourself… the less issues you have in regards to having used big health insurance in the first place. And there’s lots of alternatives with HSA-type plans and so on, Steve, whereby you can do alternative health care in a different way than what big pharma and big health care want you to do, big insurance want you to do. And I got to wonder, Steve, and maybe that’s something that we should focus on more here in 2026 among the three of us, is really teaching people there are other ways to do this than how you’re doing it right now.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it’s funny. This is the wrong day to ask me about health insurance, man. I am, you know, a Medicare person now. I did not want Part B. I’m sorry. And I’m like, you’re nuts, right? I’m not paying for Part B because I have corporate benefits. And then it turns out I go to the doctor and Cigna, my primary health insurance for my company, says, oh, no, no, no, we’re the secondary now because of Medicare. I’m like, your price went up this year. How do you become the secondary to Medicare, which I don’t have Part B Medicare? And I look at this and go, it is the single biggest, other than PBMs, biggest stupid racket out there. I mean, people don’t know what they get. They don’t know what they bought. They don’t know how to use what they’ve got. I mean, between the health insurance profitability and the fights with hospitals, it’s all horrible. But the bottom line is, for us, I don’t know if there’s incentive in my plan or not. I haven’t taken a wellness in my plan. I don’t know because it’s complicated. It’s ridiculously expensive and everybody hates it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Dr. Kelly, your thoughts on that? And by the way, Steve, I can’t go against what you just said. It’s very maddening at times the way that works. And there are things, Dr. Kelly, as you know, that we’re sort of, when it comes to Medicare, you’re mandated. I mean, I guess you’re mandated to do so. Is there the ability to even opt out? I didn’t think there was.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, it’s ridiculous. It’s so convoluted and so complex. Most Americans don’t understand it. And what’s worse is they leave a lot of their benefits on the table. Most Americans, the vast majority of Americans on Medicare, do not know that they have a benefit for chronic disease management, chronic condition management that is paid for by Medicare, which means if you have diabetes, hypertension, obesity, depression, musculoskeletal disorders, and on and on, you have a benefit that you can have to have a one-on-one health coach, somebody to help you manage these things independent of your doctor. And this is a benefit that it would go so far to actually overall controlling health care costs because if people weren’t running to the ER and running to their primary care doctor or ending up in the hospital because their chronic conditions were being managed better, it would actually… drive down costs. But instead, the government is so bad at being able to simplify it and make it clear to people who are on Medicare to understand what it is they should be doing. Why do you need Medicare? A, B, C, D. You know, how much more complicated can you make it? It’s absolutely a racket. It is, you know, it is as inefficient as it gets. And honestly, I don’t know how, at some point, I wish we’d just flush the toilet and start over.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, it wouldn’t hurt my feelings. I know, Steve, it wouldn’t hurt yours either. I’m a few years from having to actually do that. But that day for all of us, by the way, you know, that day, as you know, Steve, comes. And I hope, and I don’t hold a lot of faith in this, but I do hope at some point in time some things can change, like Dr. Kelly said a moment ago. But again, I don’t hold much hope in that, given the way the system is right now.
SPEAKER 05 :
You’re talking about in the way health insurance and those kind of things would work?
SPEAKER 11 :
Medicare itself.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, this is crazy when you get on the phone with a government employee. You know, you apply for Social Security, but you can’t have money because you make too much money. We automatically enrolled you in Medicare Part B because you applied for Social Security. So we’re billing you $1,775 a quarter for Medicare Part B, even though you’ve got corporate benefits. benefits that are much better than, and then the corporate guys are going to make you their secondary. So now I’m paying full social security every year, full Medicare every year, and they want more money. And I’m thinking, is there any, you know, to make the kind of transition we need to make in healthcare, we really need to make for health. People are going to have to trust healthcare. They’re going to have to trust the government. They’re going to have to trust the drug distribution process. We are nowhere close to that. If we can’t trust those things, John, and the way Medicare insurance is done, if we can’t trust those things, no one’s ever going to make the change we need. Good point. It’ll die first.
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SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Thanks for listening. Dr. Kelly Victory, Steve House with us today. Dr. Kelly, throwing this out at you, and this is one that we’ve talked about many times in the past, but it continues to come up, and I’ll periodically even get questions on this that I then either throw into the notes or even send on to you all, and that is the slashing, the federal slashing of recommendations for childhood vaccines under the Trump administration, and the reality is I guess what I’m asking you is, that’s a start. Is it enough?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, it’s long overdue, and it is a big deal that it’s happened. To be clear for anyone who hasn’t been paying attention, the CDC announced just yesterday they have decreased the recommendations from 18 diseases down to 11. What that means for individuals is that it cut the vaccine recommendations down from 85 shots between birth and age 18 down to 30. They eliminated 55 of the 85 injections. That’s huge. Is it enough? No, but this is a major win, and I take it as that. They removed the recommendation for healthy children for many things, including silly things like rotavirus, certainly hepatitis B on day one of birth, all the COVID vaccines, and many other things. So it’s a huge step in the right direction. They have modeled this after or began to model it after other westernized countries, including Denmark, that use far, far fewer vaccines, but more importantly, have far, far less incidents. of multiple childhood illnesses, not the least of which is autism. Autism, in addition to things like asthma, psoriasis, eczema, ADHD, other sorts of complications that we assume may be related to vaccines. So it’s not everything we wanted in one fell swoop, but it was a big change.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, major. Steve, your thoughts on all of that? I’ve got more questions I want to throw at Dr. Kelly, but I want you to have a chance next.
SPEAKER 05 :
Um, I, I, obviously in this case, I agree with Kelly. I mean, you know, there’s just, it’s, I’m just so tied up in knots about the lack of progress, but I can say anything at all. It’s just that we just not making progress. And it’s unfortunate, even though, you know, we tell you highlighted at the beginning of the show that we’ve made some progress in HHS and, you know, wellness, but. You know, the idea that the number of vaccines and, you know, the cut, yeah, that makes sense. But every single day I still run into people who say people are horrible if they disagree about the number of vaccines we get. And every child should be when they’re a day old. I’m like, where do you people come from? I mean, how do you justify this stuff? I don’t know, John.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and I guess, I mean, Dr. Kelly, is some of that just because, you know, it’s always been a certain way, so we’ve got to keep doing the same thing moving forward? You know, brainwashing? I mean, why? I mean, to me, this isn’t that difficult to try to figure out exactly what you should or shouldn’t do for your own child. And I get it. A lot of doctors have difference of opinions on what you should be giving and so on. But at the end of the day, I mean, is it just simply lack of education on the part of parents?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, in the words of Mark Twain, it isn’t what you don’t know that gets you in trouble. It’s what you know that just ain’t so. These people think and they quote things that are simply wrong, and I know because I used to be one of them. We were lied to in medical school. We were lied to in our training, and many doctors like me passed that falsehood on to our patients. I said myself many times, look, were it not for the polio vaccine, we would still have the scourge of polio. But that simply isn’t true. The reality is that death rates and severe illness from diseases like polio and incidentally measles had all but gone to zero before the vaccines were ever initiated. That is the fact. That is not what we were taught, but that is the fact, and the data are very clear about that if you go back to the source and look at that. So I think it is really, and I hear people saying it over and over again, well, obviously you don’t want, polio will come roaring back. No, it won’t. Polio had gone away largely because of better living conditions, clean water, better sanitation, better nutrition. That’s the reality. It had nothing to do with the polio vaccine, but people don’t understand that. So I think a big part of it is simply misinformation and the fact that there are people who simply cannot do what I just did, which is say, I was wrong. I was told one thing. Turns out it wasn’t true. I acknowledged it. I educated myself about it. And I’ve spent the last eight years trying to educate others. But you’ve got to be willing. You know, the science is never settled. And on top of it, you’ve got to be willing to acknowledge when you misinterpreted it or were told the wrong thing and correct it. And you’ve got to be willing to do that. And we’ve got too many people out there who just want to dig their heels in. Then you have the other side of it, which is the people like the Peter Hotez and the Anthony Fauci and the gazillions of others of people in science and in medicine who are actually making money by not telling the truth. They’re actually making money by selling these. You know, Anthony Fauci has made millions of dollars off of patents on these vaccines. And many others have as well. So you’ve got that confounding factor.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yep. No. All well said. Go ahead. Go ahead, Steve. You’re up. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 05 :
Just one example about what Kelly’s talking about and what I mentioned about Hep B and about the confusion, right? Yeah. I’m standing in a group of medical people, I don’t know, a few weeks ago, talking about hepatitis B. And one of the nurses said, well, the reason why you have to get a shot for hepatitis B when you’re two days old is because hepatitis B lives on surfaces for six days or seven days. So a lot of 12-, 13-year-old kids who might get their first FB shot at them have already been exposed to it, had their hands on it, and get hepatitis B because it lives on surfaces. Now, there were four other medical people there besides myself. Not one of them could confirm or deny that that was true, and they’re medical people. So what is the average parent? When they hear that, what is the average parent supposed to say?
SPEAKER 11 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, my God, get a shot.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, that’s a great point. Dr. Kelly, he’s right, because if we don’t know, I mean, if they don’t know, how are we supposed to know? Let me say it that way.
SPEAKER 15 :
Exactly right. And listen, I just the other day had a, I don’t want to call it an argument, but a discussion with one of my own physicians, someone who I was going to say about this, where, and she was arguing that, well, it makes total sense, you know, for kids, you certainly would want kids to get the vaccine. You know, the Gardasil, the HPV vaccine. And the reality is, I said, no, actually, you wouldn’t. The data are terrible on that. It has not decreased the risk of cervical cancer in women. It’s actually increased the incidence in certain cases. You know, so a lot of but she’s absolutely certain of it. And there’s no way you can convince somebody if somebody doesn’t want to be convinced of the truth. You can you’re beating your head against the wall. And so you’re right. If you can’t convince other physicians, you know, my own colleagues who this idea go back to covid social distancing. Have you lost your mind? Stand six feet away from somebody and you’re not going to spread a respiratory virus. That is preposterous. It is so silly that the average fifth grader should be able to figure that out. Yet my own colleagues were saying it and doing it. So we are fighting an uphill battle. And that’s why I think the best thing we can do is empower people, encourage them to listen to people who got it right the first time. Because now, five years later, you have Anthony Fauci and many, many others acknowledging that. OK, turns out that masks didn’t work. Turns out social distancing was made up. Turns out the lockdown. OK, so now they know. So I guess so. Kelly Victory and Steve, you know, and John Rush, we have all been vindicated. OK, so hopefully the people listening to this will say, wow, I’m going to listen to those guys who got it right last time. And because they seem to have better sense than the people, you know, that they need, quote, experts who had something who had a vested interest.
SPEAKER 11 :
Great point. Steve, what do you want to add to that? By the way, great commentary, Dr. Kelly. I appreciate that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I mean… I don’t know. It’s just, I don’t even know how to solve the problem. I keep thinking about solving the problem and what I heard in that discussion. And, you know, Kelly is as smart as anybody out there. And if I always had to call her and ask her, that’d be great because I couldn’t spit out the data right there in front of those folks on PrEP B and, you know, some of the other stuff that’s happening and some of these vaccines that she indicated, even flu vaccines, where you get the flu more often, according to Cleveland Clinic, than you don’t get it when you take it. We’re just not prepared. There’s not a way for us to do this. I don’t know. Maybe AI will help solve the problem. But the problem with government and highly regulated industries like healthcare, education, government itself, is that when a highly regulated industry is involved, they say and do and manipulate things based on the rules they make. And if you can’t combat that, it’s like the number of people who don’t really understand the Constitution. Now, was Trump constitutionally correct in taking Venezuela? There certainly is evidence within the Constitution for him to do that. But people just make assumptions because they don’t know. They don’t know how to find it. And or they don’t care. They just want to take a position. So it’s a breath of fresh air when you hear people like Kelly be able to articulate that. But man, do we need to figure out systems and structures so everyone can talk back when they need to talk back?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, think about this. Think about how scary this is. Yesterday, the American Academy of Pediatrics, in response to the CDC coming out and saying that they are changing these recommendations and cutting it down from the 85 shots previously being recommended down to 30 shots between birth and age 18, the American Academy of Pediatrics came out in a formal statement and said, we support following the old guidelines, not the new pared down guidelines of the CDC. Okay, so here’s an organization, the American Academy of Pediatrics, who for the entire duration of the COVID pandemic kept quoting, follow the CDC, listen to the CDC, the CDC says wear masks and get vaccinated. Now that the CDC comes out and says something that they don’t like, Meaning cut down. You know, we’re changing. We don’t want you to give this many vaccines. All of a sudden, they are now saying, don’t listen to the CDC. The CDC doesn’t know what they’re talking about. They’re going to harm your child. OK, so now you need to start looking at, OK, who’s making money here?
SPEAKER 11 :
Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
Somebody has a vested interest in that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Follow the money.
SPEAKER 15 :
You don’t have to be a rocket scientist. Follow the money. Because they were all for it when it was, you know, more intervention, more intervention, more intervention. Now in the CDC saying, actually, well, it turns out that we have 12 really good peer reviewed studies, all of which come to the same conclusion, which is that children who are unvaccinated are far healthier than kids who get vaccinated. Turns out we think we should take our hands off your kids. All of a sudden, the American Academy of Pediatrics has their hair on fire.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right, right. Great point. Think about that. Great point. Okay, along those lines, and I’ve got a question that came in before we get things wrapped up here. I’ve got a few minutes left. Supplements. And I don’t know if we’ve ever really covered this before, maybe once briefly in the past, Dr. Kelly, but a question came in a moment ago is, how do you know whether a supplement, you know, talking about vitamin D, for example, we recommend people supplement with that. And there’s other things you’ve talked about over the years. How do you know you’re getting a high quality supplement?
SPEAKER 15 :
It’s a great question. And, you know, full disclosure, I am employed part time by a company that makes the majority of its income is based on selling supplements. So I know a thing or two about it. But, you know, I’m also biased when I start through my own supplements and I don’t buy all of mine through my own company. And I did, you know, for years and years before that, I would go. I look, number one, for supplements that are made in the United States. I look for ones that are certified organic and have gone through some element of testing. There are so many different supplements out there. I think I’ve said before, but if they’re saying again, never go with supplements that are in the form of a gummy product. They are fundamentally – they taste great. They are candy. That’s why they taste good. They are candy that goes on a conveyor belt and then is sprayed with a liquid that contains whatever it is, vitamin D, vitamin C, zinc, or whatever else. So one gummy might get a lot of the spray on it. Another gummy might not get very much, and it’s not a good way to get it. You should be looking for things that are in an encapsulated or gel cap form. Okay. And, again, I look for American-made and organic. You want the ingredients, if possible, to be sourced, again, from reliable sources. So I look to see where they’re sourced from. A lot of times it will say, you know, American-made from, you know, But the ingredients come from elsewhere, you know, American made, but from internationally sourced, you know, ingredients. And so that’s not what you’re looking for.
SPEAKER 11 :
OK, so along those lines and, you know, you see different supplements where, you know, third party testing. Is there any validity to that, Dr. Kelly?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, absolutely. And that’s what I’m saying. I think you do want some third-party testing.
SPEAKER 11 :
So you want that label, and I guess, I mean, is it just a label, or can you verify they actually, in fact, did third-party testing?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, you know, you can’t. There’s just so much, you know, I don’t have time to be very, you know, getting into the weeds and actually, you know, asking for, you know, validation that they’ve done it. If they put it on the label and it’s made in the U.S., that’s why I say things that are not made here in the United States are It’s way easier for them to falsify it. Stuff coming from China or from overseas, you just have no clue what’s in it or what it means. The labeling means. Fundamentally means nothing. And that’s why I look for lab source stuff. And then there are some good brands. You look for the brands that get high quality ratings. I also, when I go on Amazon or elsewhere, I look at the ratings. I see what people actually go. And if you read, I look for stuff that has all five stars. And a lot of times you’ll go into those and read those reviews and people will say, you know, the bottle was leaking or it was discolored. It didn’t smell right. You read those things because they do make a difference. So, you know, those are sort of my basic guidelines. You know, you can certainly find high quality American made stuff on places like Amazon or at GNC.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. All right. Next question. This one’s a little bit tougher. Go ahead, Steve. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, I need to weigh in here that gummies. vitamins, gummy supplements is the way I get my sweet tooth set up. Ah, there we go. How can that be bad?
SPEAKER 11 :
There we go. How can that be bad? Absolutely.
SPEAKER 15 :
If I can’t have gummies, what am I going to do? My suggestion is go buy candy, buy the gummies, and then go buy the capsules for your supplement so you’re sure you’re actually getting your vitamin D. There we go.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s funny.
SPEAKER 15 :
And you’re getting both. And by the way, you know, for those people who want…
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, one last question, Dr. Kelly, before I let you go, and this one’s a little bit difficult. We may have to even table this one later. Good question, although I think even I might know the answer to this, and this is, you know, we have animals, we have vets. The vet can take care of pretty much everything that animal might have going on with maybe the exception of, you know, A few things here or there. Why can’t we do the same things in health care when it comes to humans? In other words, why do we have to go to the eye doctor, the ear doctor, the nose and throat doctor, the gut doctor, everything else included? In other words, why are we so specialized when in the vet world they’re not?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, there certainly are internists that will handle most things, but it’s largely because we demand a higher level of care for humans. You might notice that there’s very little, if any, malpractice in the veterinary world. When, you know, if something goes awry, there’s, you know, nobody’s suing their veterinarian. And that’s not the case in human medicine. It’s we really pushed it that way. It’s interesting because, you know, it’s think about just in ophthalmology. There’s not there are no more ophthalmologists. You go to a retinal specialist or an eyelid specialist. I mean, even within, you know, within orthopedics, it’s not just an orthopedic doctor. It’s who’s the knee guy, who’s the elbow guy. And part of it’s because of the complexity of what, you know, because we’ve become so sophisticated in our ability to do things that, again, people have gone into hyper, hyper, hyper specialized things. I always laugh and say pretty soon you’re going to have to go to a right knee specialist versus a left knee specialist. You know, they’ve gotten to the point where it is so highly specialized. And it really is in order to provide a higher quality of care that has been demanded by, you know, and I’m not sure it’s necessarily better. I think, frankly, back when we had. you know, family practitioners and internists who covered, and even pediatricians who covered pretty much everything, we probably were better off.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, I’ll leave it at that. Guys, as always, it’s a joy talking to you guys. Thank you so much for firing off 2026 on a good note, and look forward to being with both of you throughout the year. Steve, I’ll let you go first.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and I would tell people if you take a supplement and you don’t feel better and it doesn’t show up on the lab test, check what you’re taking and do something else. 26 is going to be a good year. There’s a lot of positive things happening.
SPEAKER 11 :
Dr. Kelly, I’ll let you go next. Thank you so much, as always. I appreciate it greatly.
SPEAKER 15 :
Sounds great. Thanks for having me, and I look forward to our next session.
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SPEAKER 11 :
All right. I got a text message in, by the way, on the veterinarian question earlier. And this says, my husband is a specialist in animal eyes. There are many specialists in the veterinarian world, oncology, cardiology, ophthalmology, and so on. So I did not know that, by the way. So thank you. And meaning that, yeah, even on… The animal sides of things, there’s a lot of specialties, and I’m guessing just because things get more complicated, the more in-depth you get. So, yeah, I don’t think we’re ever going to see one universal doctor that handles everything. I wish that were the case, but it’s not going to happen. So, guys, that’s it for this first hour. We’ve got two more hours coming your way. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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