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In this exciting episode of Drive Radio, we’re not only reminiscing about the beauty of classic cars but also exploring their current market dynamics. Are older models really worth the investment? We discuss the ups and downs of the collectible car market, share expert insights, and answer listener questions on buying, selling, and maintaining these automotive treasures. Plus, don’t miss the updates from the Rods and Bods Museum and stories from the Veterans Museum in Broomfield—it’s a packed show with something for every car enthusiast.
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And we are here, Drive Radio, KLZ 560. And I appreciate you guys joining us. And we are live at the Rocky Mountain Airport. Somebody asked on the text line, do I know South Metro Denver as well as I do North Metro Denver? I mean, I grew up in the north end of town, so probably know the north end better than the south end, but know both ends. So today, again, we’re live at the car show. If you guys are out and about, come up and see us. Rocky Mountain Airport, we are at literally the corner of, I always say US-36, but it’s Highway 128, but most people don’t know what Highway 128 is. So actually, it’s US-36 and Wadsworth. We are at the southwest corner. But the best thing to do is if you’re anywhere at all, everybody has a phone with maps and so on, just literally all you got to type in is Rocky Mountain Airport, and it will give you directions to here. Now, you cannot park at the airport. All the parking that’s even local that’s around the area are for either customers that are flying in and out, which there’s commercial flights that come in and out of here, or car show folks, volunteers, and so on. But what they’ve done is there’s a shuttle service where if you park out and about and you don’t feel like walking in, some of the other outer parking lots, they’ll shuttle you in. So still convenient. Easy way to get in and out of the show. And there’s the swap meet here. So if you’re looking for an old part, plenty of those around as well. Kent from Sterling, Novus Autoglass with us today. Good morning. Good morning. And I should turn all you guys’ mics up to make sure that this works properly. That always helps. Pat from Fort Collins drove all the way down as well.
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Fantastic. Good morning, guys.
SPEAKER 13 :
Thanks for joining us. Josh is here from Legacy. He doesn’t have a mic yet, but we’ll get him on air here before long. But Justin with Josh is also here as well. Justin, how are you? Good. Good morning. Pull that mic up tighter if you can for me. There you go. Just bend it around.
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The end of that opens. There we go.
SPEAKER 13 :
That’s better. So, yeah, so appreciate you guys. Okay, so who was out and about walking around and wants to say anything about what’s out there? Because I have not been out since about, oh, I don’t know, 7, I don’t know. I think I walked around about 8 o’clock. So there’s a lot more going on now than there was at 8 o’clock.
SPEAKER 04 :
I walked around a little bit, and there’s some nice cars.
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How many?
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Oh, I don’t know.
SPEAKER 05 :
I’m going to say 150.
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Or more. Or more.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. I’m an old muscle car guy. There are a lot of nice General Motors muscle cars. And as I was telling Josh and Justin, Kathy says anything that’s red looks good to her.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I can’t argue that. that although this orange and white striped camaro back here is a pretty good looking car there’s a dodge demon so some of you that that know what a dodge challenger demon version is there’s one of those here which you don’t see those a lot out and about because most of the demons i hate to say this most demons are garaged hardly ever driven because their value if you don’t drive them just stays up you know way up because that car sold for 100 and well depending upon where you bought it when you bought it It could have been anywhere from $120,000 to $200,000, so depending upon when you bought that car and when they drive them, they don’t keep their value as well. But in this case, it’s driven, which is really cool because that’s a good thing to see. It’s a nice car. Yeah, and they’re super fast. They’re just stupid fast. So, again, lots of cars up here. If you get out and about, by all means. And I will say this as well. Weather-wise, guys, normally, because we’ve done this show for years, and normally it’s hotter than stinking blazes. Even inside the trailer here, it’s like a sweatshop. Normally I’ve got the fan on, which I don’t even have the fan on yet because there’s a nice cool breeze blowing in. We aren’t even 80 degrees yet, 79 degrees. It is absolutely beautiful. Cloud cover makes it just bright. You can still wear shorts and a T-shirt if you want. You don’t have to wear a jacket or anything. It’s not that cold, unless you’re my wife. But anyways, she thinks anything below like 90 degrees is cold. But no, today is about as perfect of a day as you’ll ever find to come to a car show, literally.
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It’s nice. Very nice.
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Now, the one thing you won’t have here that we had last week, nothing against the food that’s here, but you won’t be able to beat the food from last week at Loprino because the Italians just, they have this way of cooking that, sorry, no one else here will have. Now, you can still get, you know, dogs and burger, other things that will be here a little bit later. But biggest thing here is just come up, enjoy yourself, look at all the cars. There are some cars for sale because Kent found one he was just showing me a moment ago. So there’s even some cars for sale. So if you’re looking for an older car, Again, you’re here. And one other thing, too, that we don’t think we’ve ever talked about. When you’re at a car show and you’re walking around and you see a car you really like, You know, if you’re me, everything I own is for sale. Right. It’s a matter of price, but everything I own is for sale. So if you were to come up to me and say, hey, is that for sale? Yeah, everything’s for sale. So, you know, let’s have a little conversation and let’s talk. Justin’s laughing because he knows that you guys aren’t any different because if I’ve got it, it’s for sale because I can go buy another one.
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See, I’m the opposite. I never sell anything. I should.
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Me, I’m always rotating stuff around. I mean, I guess it’s just me. I mean, some things I guess I keep, but like my old car from high school and I keep I keep threatening to sell that. My wife won’t let me, but that’s a car I’d sell in a heartbeat. To me, I don’t get emotional or sentimental over objects, over cars and stuff. I mean, if it can bring value, then I’m on to whatever the next thing is. That’s just how I look at it. So questions. We can always answer questions today, by the way, 303-477-5600. Today we can handle any mechanical question you’ve got. We can handle any glass question we’ve got because it can’t be in here, which I would encourage you guys, if you have any glass questions, by all means, And then, of course, on the buying and selling of cars, all of that, we’ve got Justin and Josh both from Legacy and Ridgeland here. So if you’ve got any questions along those lines, we can handle that. We’ll get into some of that also today, even when it comes to the buying and selling and what you should be doing, some of the proper things to do before you sell a car, all of those different things we can get into today. If you have any questions along those lines, by all means, let us know. Okay, a couple of announcements. Let’s get a little bit of housekeeping done. The guys that, and some of you may know about the museum, some of you may not, but the Rods and Bods Museum, Rods and Bods Movie Car Museum Collection. They are downsizing. They’re using some of the proceeds from some of the cars that they’re going to sell now to buy a facility because they’re losing the lease on the facility they’re in right now. So there is a live two-day auction, 401 Englewood Parkway in Englewood. And I believe that is on the 22nd and 23rd of August. So coming up a little bit later this month, I think you can preview cars. Again, they’re going to consolidate. I think what he told me today is they’ve got well over 150 cars or so. They’re going to parse back about 50 to 60 cars, generate enough revenue to go buy a facility. So if you’re looking to buy any kind of classic cars, some of these have been in movies and things like that, meaning they might even be a little bit more collectible depending upon the movie and so on. But that’s something to think about. If you’re looking for a car, these are cars that, frankly, because they’ve been in a museum, they haven’t been driven daily. So these would be cars that, frankly, should be worth looking at at least. And I don’t know the list of the cars. You can actually find that by giving them a call and just call the museum. But, again, it’s a two-day auction coming up later this month, the 22nd. And the 23rd, I’ll talk about that more in the coming weeks as well. And then the Veterans Museum came by. Veterans Museum here in Broomfield, they came by the second and fourth Saturdays at 10 a.m. They actually go through all sorts of different things when it comes to history and the museum itself and so on. So that’s here in Broomfield. BroomfieldVeterans.org is the website. BroomfieldVeterans.org. is the website. Okay, guys, I didn’t really think of a – being at the car show and everything, I got behind and didn’t think of a question of the day today, so I didn’t – you guys are going to have to come up with one for me because I didn’t do that yet.
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How about one, like at a car show, do you like the older cars better or the newer car better? No, that’s a good question. Or the antique cars? No, that’s a good question. If you go to a car show, you see one of everything.
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Okay, so, yeah, when you go to a show, what cars typically – you know, sort of pique your interest.
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I’m a hodgepodge. I think for me it’s just what does the car – I will say this, though, and I know some guys are going to hate me for this. I’m not an antique car guy. I never have been. I mean, I like cars that have been, you know, rotted out. So, you know, going and looking at even an original 32 Ford or even a, you know, 29 with the spoke, you know, wooden wheels. I’m sorry, and some of you guys might own those. Those cars just never have in my entire life have ever done anything for me. To me, that’s like, yeah, that’s a car that you definitely are going to work on to drive. You’re going to work on it while you’re driving it even, and that’s not a car that I’ve really ever wanted to own. So that original, you know, even like the pre-’40s, I’ve never been into the originality of those types of cars. I want one that’s been changed, modernized, and so on. Now, getting newer, because the cars got better, frankly, as you got newer. You got into the late-’40s, early-’50s, you know, getting into the 55, 6, and 7 Chevys and so on. Those, they could be original. In fact, you take like a 57 Chevy Fuelie car. Yeah, I mean, those are pretty cool cars that you just don’t see every day. Although, one thing I should make note of is something I talked about a little bit last week. Those are cars that unfortunately, and I had somebody stop by the booth last week talking to me about that. Unfortunately, those are cars that, and I hate to say this, and some people are going to get mad at me for saying this because you might own one, they’re not increasing in value. anything even kind of early 60s, depending upon the car, might be of value, it might be increasing, but typically from that mid-60s down, unless it’s a Corvette, there’s always exceptions, it could be something very unique. Corvettes, it’s in its own class. So when you talk Corvettes, they’re in their own world, so… That could be anything from the 50s to the 60s, the 70s, even to the 80s. So Corvettes are its own thing. So you can’t talk that way. And there’s other Porsche 911s and so on. That’s another one where you kind of take that one and set it aside because that one doesn’t count. But typically the cars that are early 60s and previous, right now currently, and I’m sorry to say this because there’s some of them here, but they’re decreasing in value. And here’s why for all of you listening. The generation that love those cars are dying. I’m sorry, but that’s what’s happening. And as painful as some of these things are to talk about, and the reason why I’m saying this is because you might be somebody looking to sell a car. You might be somebody looking to buy a car. There’s a car here in particular. I’m not going to name any things. I don’t want to offend anybody, but Kent and I were talking about it, and it’s a car that probably has over 100 grand spent on the car to get it fully done, restored, built, and so on. Not restored, but built, because it’s a fiberglass car, so get the car built to begin with. Unfortunately, that’s a $30,000 car today. Just because of where things are at, the car just won’t bring anywhere as close to what was spent on it to build it. And no, you can’t build the car for that $30,000. But the problem is, it’s supply and demand. There’s so many of those cars… now in the marketplace that at the end of the day you don’t have enough buyers to buy the cars that are out there for sale because most of the buyers want something different in today’s world.
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Yeah, and that puts it in the price range. You could go and buy it and enjoy it. And have a blast. Go to a lot of car shows, drive it, drive it to dinner, and just enjoy it.
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I bought a car like that a few years ago. We own a 32 Ford. A high boy. It’s got flames. The car was done very well. Probably a $150,000 car when it was built. It’s that nice of a car. It literally doesn’t have anything out of place. It’s just a really, really nice car, and I paid $40,000 for that car, which, you know, you couldn’t build. I did the math on it. I looked at, okay, if I bought the body, the frame, the engine, the transmission, the differentials, the suspension, the wiring, did the seats, did the paint, I mean, Anymore, just painting a car like that’s $20,000. So, I mean, literally you could take $20,000 right off the top of the $40,000, meaning could you build the rest of that car for $20,000? And the answer is no, you cannot.
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You couldn’t buy half the parts.
SPEAKER 13 :
No. You’d be hard-pressed, and I’m not joking, folks. You’d be hard-pressed to buy the frame, suspension, engine, and transmission for the $20,000.
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And how many years of time are you going to have building that thing?
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And if you pay somebody, now you’re way out of the way. So even if you’re building yourself, to your point, Kent, you’d have to work on that car daily even over a year to get it built yourself, and nobody’s got that kind of time. So I definitely don’t have that kind of time. Point being, you can buy these cars pre-done right now, ready to go, to Kent’s point, have a lot of fun, but just remember this, and I knew this buying this car, I’ll be lucky to get my money back out of this car. It’ll be fun. It’s fun to own. It’s fun to drive, fun to have pictures of, and so on. But I will be doing good on down the road to get the money back out of the car that I actually spent on buying it just because of what it is. And that’s something where you’ve got to know some of this going into the cars because everybody thinks, well, it’s such a car, it’s going to be worth more money down the road. Yeah. No, cars are a lot like any other art form, any other art piece even. They can vary, just like the waves of an ocean, a lot depending upon what the marketplace is doing. So, all right, we’re going to take a quick break. We’re going to come back. And, again, if you’re out and about, stop by and see us. We’re the Front Range Airport, or not Front Range Airport, Rocky Mountain Airport. Front Range is way out east. So we’re the Rocky Mountain Airport, Rocky Mountain Car Show and Swap Meet. Come by, say hi. Lines are open, by the way, 303-477-5600. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, he’s out roaming.
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He’s going to go roam around. He’ll get something to eat. That’s all right. He’ll roam around and figure out how things are. So I’ll get to the questions of the day here in a moment. Up next, though, Joe in Jersey. You’re next. Go ahead, Joe.
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John, I’ve got a summer driving tip that I discovered that most people have no clue that it even exists. You had a very hot, high humidity day out there in Denver last week, didn’t you?
SPEAKER 13 :
We did, on Tuesday, I believe.
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Well, here in New Jersey, we had a string of 98 degrees, 80% relative humidity. And virtually every car that I’ve ever been in has a little button on the climate control system. It has a little reverse arrow. Recirculate. Recirculate. And my car, by the way, defaults to fresh air every time. Correct.
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A lot of them do.
SPEAKER 11 :
I’m driving along, and my car is struggling. And, John, I hit that recirculate button, and within seconds – the temperature of the air coming out of the vents must have dropped 15 degrees.
SPEAKER 13 :
Correct, because you’re taking the inside air and recooling it versus taking fresh air that’s hot and humid and trying to do all the work of that fresh air.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right, and I was giving my neighbor a ride back home from the gym, and he said, what’s that? And you’re right, because instead of trying to cool 98-degree air that’s 80% relative humidity, you’re just taking the nice, cool, dry air in the car, and recirculating it, and you’ll get a 10 or 15 degree drop within seconds out of your business.
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Absolutely. Same can happen in the winter months as well. The one thing you have to be careful of in the wintertime, depending upon conditions and where you live and so on, is people tend to get really wet, and they will get their clothes all wet, and they might have snow on the boots, and so now there’s a bunch of moisture inside of the car itself, and when you run the defrosters, yes, the AC is running, but now you’re kind of doing the opposite. You’re actually trying to take and use the air conditioner to get rid of all of that moisture that’s in the cabin when you’re on the recirculate mode versus doing fresh air. So a lot of people will recirculate thinking they’re getting more heat. Not necessarily because all of that heat’s coming out of the heater core anyway. So in the wintertime, you don’t want to use recirculate.
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But at the same time, if you’ve got your car in the garage and it’s dry and you’re going from the house. You could then. Yeah. Yeah, and you’ll get a lot more heat. That’s right.
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The biggest thing you’ve got to be careful of is just how wet is the inside of the car where, like I say, if the floor mats are full of water because you’ve been out in the snow and different things and so on, or if you park outside, some of that can be a factor. But, yeah, use that recirculate button accordingly, and you’ll have much better performance, especially on the air conditioning side. Absolutely, Joe.
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Right.
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And, Jim, I don’t know if they all reset to fresh air or if there’s a – I’m not – You know, in all the cars I’ve driven, Joe, all the test cars and such, it really just depends on make and model. Some do. Some will remember the button being pushed and come right back to recirculate. So it’s not across the board. It really – is not even manufacturer-dependent. It really comes down to make and model. And I don’t know of any way to change the computer end of things to make that always on. Do you, Josh?
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Most models have that max AC button on it, and that automatically puts it into the recirculator.
SPEAKER 13 :
So you don’t even have to hit the recirculator. If you leave it on the max.
SPEAKER 14 :
If you leave it on the max on the AC side, it’ll automatically just stay in there. So not every manufacturer has that, but most of them do. Okay, there you go. Good to know.
SPEAKER 11 :
And the other thing, as long as you’re doing it, You know, the cabin air filter, you know, it doesn’t have much to do with the AC, but the cabin air filter, which in a lot of cars now is in the glove box. You have to drop the glove box and pull it out. But, you know, if you go for an oil change, they’ll tell you, well, your cabin air filter should be changed. And, well, they’re going to charge you in addition to probably 100% markup on the filter itself. They’re going to charge you an extra $30 worth of labor. You know, it’s not that big a deal. Go to AutoZone or one of those places and buy yourself an air filter.
SPEAKER 13 :
On some cars. Let me make sure I tell everybody on the front side because there are – some cars are really easy jobs, simple. It’s a five-minute change, although there are other cars where it’s an hour-long process, and I’m not exaggerating when I say that. Oh, yeah. Josh, go ahead.
SPEAKER 14 :
The old Hondas, we used to have to cut pieces of plastic and cut a metal piece to put the first cabin air filter in. They were built, and you had to literally cut the air box to do it. Now, most of those have gone away, but there are still some that are – If you do a Mini or a Mazda or some Fords, they’re tucked in the center of the console up front. You’ve got to pull the carpet back and pull the glove box out and half the air box out to get to it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Joe, you’re fortunate. Be happy you have one that’s really easy to change because they’re not all that way.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, my wife’s had two Jeeps. Both of hers were through the glove box. My Kia’s through the glove box, and my Durango’s were always through the glove box.
SPEAKER 13 :
A lot of the SUVs are a little easier because the air box itself is so much bigger, and there’s more room for them to work with. Where you get to some of the smaller cars, as even Josh just mentioned, because things get more compact, they have to hide that and do some different things with the air and the recirculation and so on, and that’s why.
SPEAKER 04 :
And some of them are underneath the cowl. You’ve got to open the hood, pop the wipers, pull the cowl out, and now you can get the open filter.
SPEAKER 14 :
Correct. The hardest part, though, is getting everything back in the glove box after you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah, all the junk back in. You’ve got to spring it out like a jack-in-the-box. They’re always full. They are always full.
SPEAKER 11 :
And if you’re in a really high pollen area in the spring, you come out, and particularly pine trees, you come out and there’s yellow dust all over your car. Absolutely. You can pretty much figure out that cabin air filter is going to, probably be due for a change sometime in the beginning of summer.
SPEAKER 13 :
Something we’ve never talked about, Joe, thanks for bringing this up, because you can also, like K&N, they were a big sponsor of ours for years, still love them, still love their products, and K&N actually makes a cleanable cabin air filter for a lot of vehicles where if you’re in one of those areas where you feel like you’re going to be changing that more often or you’re really allergic or something along those lines, I would highly recommend getting one of the K&Ns where you can take that out, clean it, put it back in, and not have to be buying a filter every time you go to do it.
SPEAKER 11 :
And, John, one question for you. They always try to push the high-end that’s got the activated charcoal in there. Do you think it’s worth the money? I’ve never spent the money to get an activated charcoal cabin air filter. I asked these guys that question.
SPEAKER 13 :
What are your thoughts?
SPEAKER 14 :
It is if it’s a really stinky car. I’ve had some cars that just always stink. It does get rid of some of that smell. Good to know. But usually they need the evaporator cleaned anyways, and that’s the real issue. Right. Okay. All right, all I got today, guys.
SPEAKER 13 :
Good stuff, Joe, as always. Appreciate you very much.
SPEAKER 04 :
You’re welcome, John. Take care. John, I have a question on defrosters on the car. The newer car activates the air conditioner to make the defroster. Always have. How does like a 68 or 69 car without air conditioner, how does that defroster work? They don’t work as well?
SPEAKER 13 :
No, they don’t work as well because, as you know, air conditioning takes the moisture out of the air. That’s what the air conditioner is. That’s why for a lot of you listening, I can’t tell you over the years how many times I got this either, question or somebody would come in and say i’ve got this leak and especially on a hot day they’d pull up see that leak i’m like that’s just yes it is i guess you could say it’s a leak but it’s not it’s the tube coming out of the air box for the air conditioner that’s collecting water and it’s now running out that vent tube which is good you want that if you don’t see any water running out on a hot day when you’ve got air conditioning you got something plugged up so You should see naturally some water dripping out of that passenger kind of middle of the car area up towards the engine area, so towards the front but not clear in the very front by the bumper. If you don’t see water dripping out on a really hot day, you’ve got a problem because that’s what air conditioning does, which helps with the defrosting to Kent’s point. Now, to your point, Kent, when you don’t have any of that – It’s like the old cars. And I can remember as a kid, we had an old 72 Chevy Blazer, an aftermarket air conditioning that did not run through the heating and venting, defrosting end of things. And if you were too moist inside, you sometimes had to roll the window down to let the moisture out to get the defrosters to actually work. So you’re freezing to death just to get the car defrosted. Because there’s no way to get that moisture out of the inside of the car.
SPEAKER 04 :
Because it’s just blowing warm air. That’s all it’s doing.
SPEAKER 13 :
There’s nothing that’s taking any of the moisture that’s coming out of that inside of the car out. Because there’s a lot of cars built without air conditioning.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 13 :
Now everybody has it. And frankly, it’s kind of become more of a… Probably a safety issue than a comfort issue, although everybody wants air conditioning, although you look at the safety sides of things. And even some cars with air conditioning, when you first fire up that defroster, you may notice a lot of fog come right up. That’s because there’s a little moisture left inside of everything, and when you turn that system on, it’s blowing that moisture up on all the windows, just like if you were to take your breath and blow on the window, and it fogs everything up. Kids used to do that. I never let my kids do this, but they’d blow on it, and then they’d ride on it. That was not allowed in my world. You can’t write on the windows. That’s not allowed. But anyways, a lot of kids would do that, not mine because they’ve been trained not to. They do now.
SPEAKER 04 :
The same system happens.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, they might now. The same principle, I guess I should say, applies to not taking that air, that moist air out of the car. That’s what fogs them up is because your breath has moisture in it. That’s what fogs the window up.
SPEAKER 04 :
One thing we learned in the glass business, when the air conditioner condenser is plugged up, it usually drains on the floor in the cabin.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 04 :
And instantly they think the windshield is leaking. Yep.
SPEAKER 13 :
We deal with this all the time. And that tube is plugged up is what’s happening.
SPEAKER 04 :
It’s plugged up, and they blame the windshield, which in theory, it looks like it, but it’s not.
SPEAKER 13 :
Because it’s right there. It’s in the same area.
SPEAKER 04 :
It’s right in the same area.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, that makes total sense.
SPEAKER 04 :
So we kind of fight back going, no, it’s not the windshield. It’s probably your air conditioner. Go get that fixed. Now come back and talk to us if it’s still leaking.
SPEAKER 13 :
And that’s where, you know, Josh was just talking a moment ago about cleaning out, you know, parts of the air conditioning system. And, yeah, if you don’t notice water running out, something has caused that to get plugged up, a bunch of mold, junk has gotten in there, you know, whatever the case. And this is where I can’t stress this enough. Keeping your car clean and neat and keeping all the leaves and the junk out of the front area, that cowling area, which is where a lot of that air is being sucked in. Keeping all of that clean helps with a lot of that, which most don’t know, I hate to say. So we’ll come back. We’ve got more to cover. We’re live at the Rocky Mountain Airport, Rocky Mountain Car Show and Swap Meet. Come by, say hi. We’ve got some giveaways and things that folks are taking as well. Nice little breeze, as you can kind of tell from the microphones. Beautiful day, though. You can’t miss it. Come out, say hi. We’ll be right back. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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And we are back. Drive Radio KLZ 560. Again, myself, Kent, from Sterling with us, Novus Auto Class, which I’ve got a question for Kent in a moment. Somebody asked on the text line. Patch Knight from Alltech Automotive. Josh Goff from Ridgeline and Legacy up in the Boulder, Fort Collins, Longmont area with us as well. We’re live at the Rocky Mountain Air Show and swap meet at the Rocky Mountain. airport and i had a i had a person just walk by a moment ago these guys might not have heard the conversation you guys may have but it’s a good tip that i’ve not really i don’t think i’ve ever talked about this on air so i need to mention this he was talking about how you know we’ve got our little license plate frames and stuff that we give away at all the different events we’re at and and he had one of those and somebody had still he wanted to do it because somebody had stolen his front license plate and i’m like well that’s not good and you know people just are thieves and they’ll take anything anymore, but they stole his license plate. Well, come to find out a couple of months later, he got a phone call from his insurance company asking if he’d been involved in an accident. And he said, no, I’ve not been in any accidents. And he’s like, well, it’s been reported that this plate number was involved in a four-car pileup, blah, blah, blah. We need you to bring your car in so we can look at it to make sure that it wasn’t you. So he’s like, okay, fine. I haven’t been in an accident, so no big deal. So he takes the car in, and sure enough, they do all their inspections and so on. The car has not been in an accident. But what had happened is somebody stole that plate. and started using it. So here’s my tip for all of you listening. If you ever run into a situation whereby your license plates are stolen, even just one plate, even a front plate, go get new plates immediately and let your insurance company know, here is my new plate, to avoid what I just mentioned happening, including parking tickets, tolls, things like that, because all of that will still come back to you. That’s why, and Josh will tell you this, even if you sell your car independently, you don’t sell it to Josh or… have Ridgeline take care of that for you, but you sell the car yourself, one of the first things you need to make sure you do, probably the first thing you need to do, take your old plates off, right, Josh? Take them with you. Because of what we’re talking about.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, especially now with the 36, how they have that lane out there. The first time you cross it, it’s $150. Yep. Second time, it’s $250. $250. Oh, wow.
SPEAKER 13 :
And you’ll get that ticket. And it stays there.
SPEAKER 14 :
It doesn’t go down. And it goes to the owner of the car, not who’s driving it. Spaced off that license plate. With all my loaner cars and everything like that, we deal with it every day. So you’re talking crossing those double white lines.
SPEAKER 13 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 14 :
Cross the double white line, not when it’s the inner zone or the exit zone. You’ll get that ticket.
SPEAKER 13 :
So for those of you listening, please, if your plate is stolen or you go to sell the vehicle, make sure you are taking those license plates off to avoid – It just the hassle that he had, which you wouldn’t think about. I’ll be quite honest. OK, so the front plate, you know, somebody stole it. OK, you don’t even think twice about going to getting new plates because it doesn’t cross your mind. Well, now with everything else we have going on electronically where you can be charged for other things or in this case, even just be reported in an accident when it wasn’t you. Now, you would think in this case they would look at make, model, and so on, and they would know from that. But they’re not going to do that. They’re just looking off the license numbers, all they’re doing. Yeah, they don’t do that. All right, another question came in because we had bad storms. You guys have been texting me all day about up in the Cheyenne area and other areas in Colorado even. Big hail last night. I think several dealers in Cheyenne were hit. All the cars damaged now unless they put some of their high-end cars inside. Going to be some big hailstorm sales most likely up in the Cheyenne areas. For those of you looking for cars, by the way, there may be something that works for you in that particular case. If you’re looking for a new car and you want a deep discount and you don’t care if it’s got a bunch of hail dents in it, that might be something that would interest you. So be looking for some sales up in Cheyenne because of that, because that’s what dealers do because they’ll PDR and get as many of those out as they can and try to resell the cars. But in some cases. They’ll just sell them as is. If the roof’s all dented and so on, pillars, what have you, they’ll just sell the car as is. They’ll give you a nice deep discount. They keep the insurance money, and then off you go. But in light of that, Kent, I had a couple of people texting that up in your area, because of that, how far are you backed up on doing windshields? Because a lot of those cars up there are going to need windshields also. right now we’re about a week out but i kind of if we get someone of the storm damage that needs something fixed real quick we kind of move them in a little bit faster okay it’s a matter of getting the parts is most of it okay so for those of you listening if you are uh in that circumstance and you need a windshield done give kent and judy a call novus auto glass and sterling if you’re up in that northern area you need something done they do mobile repair as well so if you’ve got several maybe you have a fleet you’ve had several vehicles damaged You don’t have to drive all vehicles in. They can come out, do those for you on site if need be. So, again, biggest thing to do there is just give them a call, find out what’s going on, what they look like on their lead time and so on. Now, one other thing I need to mention. This is probably across the board to all of you that do windshields. It doesn’t matter who you’re doing the windshield through. Have your VIN number ready to go when you go to do your windshield. And the reason for that is because of all of the different options that are on a lot of these cars. And I hate to say it this way, but it’s true. Even with that, there’s a chance of having more than one windshield choice even with the VIN number. But you’re at least getting it down from a plethora, you know, 15 windshields, at least maybe down to one or two. by having the VIN number. So please, have the VIN number. If you can text it to them or you’ve got it ready where you can read it off to them, whatever the case may be, just have that ready. And by the way, that’s true even on the shop end of things because you guys order parts now all based on VIN numbers. So it’s getting to the point anymore, folks, where having a VIN number on hand, you really should have every one of your VIN numbers for every one of your cars in a notepad or something on your phone where you just have easy access to it where you can copy, paste, and send that to somebody because it’s becoming that intricate to ordering things for your vehicle when needed.
SPEAKER 04 :
And the newer the car, the more important that is.
SPEAKER 13 :
Getting more and more important.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, because they all have so many options now. Yes. With trim levels and engine sizes and transmission types. And one thing that’s nice. Body style even. Body style, yep. One thing that’s nice, our shop management system, and a lot of them now do, they can take a license plate and decode that to a VIN. Right. So even if you have a photo of the front of your car, just have that license plate number handy, and we can go from there.
SPEAKER 04 :
And with the new phones, you can take a picture of the VIN number, send it to us, and we have the exact number. Correct. You don’t have to worry about reading it off.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, because there’s some tricks on VIN numbers that you really need to know is that an O or a zero.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, exactly.
SPEAKER 13 :
Because there are differences. Because an O is not a zero, and a zero is not an O. Now, to a lot of people, they’re one and the same. They’re not. An O is an O. And a zero is a zero.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I might be wrong, but I don’t think they use O’s in VIN numbers. I think they’re only zeros.
SPEAKER 13 :
They typically do only zeros. But when people are reading those off, they may say O and it’s zero. And people can confuse Z’s with twos. Anyways. Yeah, it can get a little bit difficult for some people as they’re reading off VIN numbers. I think Kent’s got the best idea. If you’ve just got a picture of it and you’ve got, you know, it’s a lot like, I mentioned this the other day on one of my other shows, is the other day just for, I don’t know why, just because I was thinking about it, so I sat and did it. I actually, in my notes, so for Apple, they’ve got a note app, I guess I should say, and all phones have some kind of a note app. And you can put pictures and scan documents and do all sorts of things with all the newer apps now that you weren’t able to do at one time. I actually the other day took both my wife and I’s driver’s licenses and passports and just stuck them in a note.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s a good idea.
SPEAKER 13 :
That way, if you ever need them for whatever, front and back of driver’s license. And the full copy of my passport, the whole page for the passport, so everything is there. So if something ever happens, rarely are you ever not going to have your phone, and even that’s in the cloud. So notes with Apple, at least, are in the cloud. So even if I didn’t have my phone and I could get to somebody’s computer, I could log into my own account and still pull that information down. If everything else was lost, I still have access to that, where if you don’t and something happens, you could be in a world of hurt. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep. And back to the VIN numbers, there’s a lot of dealers. If we have to buy a dealer part, I can’t get the part until I have the VIN number. They won’t even give me help. Okay. And same with trucks. I’ve got to have the VIN number to get a truck part.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. So, again, for those of you listening, please, that’s one of those little tips where if you’ve got the ability to, which we all do, most everybody, I mean, unless you’re living in the dark ages and you’ve got some old flip phone that doesn’t even have a camera. Most of those even had cameras. So, I mean. It’s been like two decades that we haven’t had camera phones. Right. Rarely does anybody, although their car show here is a little different because you want a little bit better picture and so on, so you’ll see some people with cameras here. But typically, rarely does anybody even on vacation have a separate camera bag. Like in the old days, we had a camera bag, a video camera bag, a this, a that. I mean, you had like 15 different devices that you were dragging around. Now it’s all in your phone. That thing has replaced a dozen plus devices from – DVDs and recordings, watching movies, to a compass, to a level, to a voice recorder. You had a little memo thing back in the day that people would carry around, to video cameras, to regular cameras, to you name it.
SPEAKER 05 :
I didn’t know you were that old, John, that you carried all those bags around. Oh, man.
SPEAKER 13 :
At one time, I had one bag that had the camera and the video camera both. If you went on vacation with the kids, you had both with you, and you’re lugging this stupid thing. It was its own backpack of crap that you drug around that now, you know, it’s all in your pocket.
SPEAKER 05 :
It was Super 8 tapes, too, probably. Oh, man. It wasn’t even digital storage. Super 8.
SPEAKER 13 :
Then it went to 8. Then it was Mini DV and so on. Anyways, if you guys got a question for us, let us know. 303-477-5600. Again, we are live at the Rocky Mountain Airport. Come by and say hi if you get up in this area. And as I mentioned earlier, when you get close to the airport, you will not be able to park at the airport. So if you find a parking place… park there’s a little shuttle service thing they’ve got running around if you don’t feel like walking in they’ll shuttle you around so by all means come by say hi we got giveaways and it’s weather wise folks and i was hoping i was expecting it to be super hot today it’s a beautiful day so if you’re out and about come by say hi we’ll be right back myself kent pat and josh and justin’s floating around here somewhere as well we’ll all be back in a moment this is drive radio klz 560.
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SPEAKER 13 :
All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Thanks so much for tuning in today. We appreciate it. Again, live at the Rocky Mountain Airport. We’ve got questions coming in on hail damage vehicles that we’ll get to in a moment as well. Josh will help chime in on that. If we don’t get to it this hour, we definitely will get to it at the beginning of the next hour. Let’s take a call, though. I’ll get Josh queued up here really quick. We’ll get his headset on, make sure that he’s ready to go. Let’s take a call. Mike, you’re up next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 16 :
Hi, John. Wonderful show. Thank you, sir. As usual. Excellent show. Particularly as it related to the earlier part that you carried over about car evaluations and And, you know, antiques, et cetera, et cetera. Thank you. So my question is about run-flat tires. So I had a call from a friend of mine who said he was listening to another show, a consumer report or a consumer advocate show, Initials TM. And the guy was talking about, you know, never, ever again will he run flats. I’m not. And the reason he gave was because when one of them blew out or went down, he had to replace all of them. Okay. That’s not true.
SPEAKER 13 :
surprising to me no and that’s not any reason to not buy them as you know mike and a lot of other folks listening should know that same theory could apply to a lot of different vehicles depending upon where on the tire at the time that one tire goes bad so that’s a really i mean you’re kind of blaming the run flat uh series of tires on something that can happen on a lot of vehicles even ones that don’t have run flats that’s kind of a stupid i’m sorry that’s just stupid
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, no, I couldn’t agree more. And what I said to him, what you need to understand, particularly on today’s computerized, all-wheel drive, highly sophisticated system tires, that if you have a tire that the computer will sense, if this is just me, you tell me if I’m wrong. the computer will sense that that fire is not quite right, and so it’s going to send a signal. You’re going to have an issue. Correct.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, two things, really quick. Before we move on, you’re correct. On top of that, Mike, A, yes, the computer itself could start going, Not haywire, but it’s just like, wait a minute, something’s not right here. I’m going straight down the road. All these tires should be equal, and one of them is not, so that’s a problem. On top of that, depending upon where the position of that tire is on the car, you could end up with some drivetrain issues, extra wear that you wouldn’t want, especially on all-wheel drive vehicles and the like. But because you’re adding more stress to the quote-unquote differential end of things, I’m not going to get into great detail on air because it’s hard to explain why. you know, on air without taking a ton of time, Mike, but at the end of the day, you literally could be doing additional wear and tear to the drivetrain you don’t want to do either.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, you and I are simpatico. I said the same thing. I said you must understand what you’re doing to your drivetrain, which is very sophisticated on these modern cars, and if there’s something off, you’re going to have more wear and tear. I said this is a
SPEAKER 13 :
really bad idea for you know uh you know i said this is so that so that is what it is so the real real really quick mike so the point of this other station and advice and so on was they hated run flats because when one goes bad you’ve got to replace all four well and that’s not totally true by the way because if you’ve got a You know, new Corvette, because there’s one sitting over here in front of me, so I’ll use that one as an example. So you’ve got a new Corvette, and it’s got run flats, and you’ve only put 1,000 miles on that car. You’ve hardly got any wear on that tire, and you ruined that one tire. You can put one tire back on that car and be just fine. You don’t have to put four tires on that run flat car.
SPEAKER 16 :
I think, you know, my opinion is you’re correct. I couldn’t agree more. But it depends on where your tires are, where, et cetera. And you need to understand what your drive system is. I mean, these computerized cars nowadays, my goodness, they’re so sensitive. The computers are telling you or the computers are telling the system. what’s going on with each wheel, with each tire, with each brake, et cetera.
SPEAKER 13 :
That’s right. That’s right. Well, and for those of you listening, the way this works is the computer is always looking for differential speed in each wheel so they know whether that, so it knows whether there’s slippage going on or not. And depending upon how much slippage it’s detecting, it can do different things with braking, ABS, and so on. It’s why you want those things to all be equal is mainly, Mike, because of what you’re talking about. But then, as I said earlier, even on top of that, to add another layer, it’s hard on the drivetrain to boot.
SPEAKER 16 :
John, thank you. Thank you very much. Because I told him, I said, I’m going to call in. You need to listen. And so thank you very much. And to all your other listeners out there, it’s, you know, we’re dealing with some pretty sophisticated stuff these days.
SPEAKER 13 :
That’s right. That’s right. Absolutely. Absolutely. Mike, as always, great call. Appreciate you.
SPEAKER 16 :
Thank you very, very much.
SPEAKER 13 :
You’re very welcome. I appreciate it. I tell you what, Jeff, you’ve got a question on windshields, and we’ve only got a couple of minutes left. I’m going to carry you over the top of the hour. And really quick, just going to throw in, because Josh is with us right now, and I had a text message asking, okay, let’s say you go to buy one of these, you know, as I mentioned earlier, up in Cheyenne, a bunch of hail, a lot of those vehicles that are on the new car lots, even used car lots, are going to be damaged. There’s going to be possibly some opportunities for some decent sales and so on. But in light of that, what are some things when you go to buy those you need to be aware of?
SPEAKER 14 :
Just the condition of, you know, the car, like how bad is it, you know, did it, You know, a lot of times I had a friend who had an Altima with a sunroof in it, and the hail actually broke the sunroof and flooded the car out.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, so that’s the water damage thing we were talking about during the break even. You didn’t hear that part because you stepped out. But, yeah, so, no, we weren’t on air talking. We were just talking off air. You’ve got to make sure there’s no water damage when that stuff happens because, to your point, you could end up with bigger things than just the hail damage.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right, exactly. You get basically a flood car at that point. Correct. It doesn’t show up right away.
SPEAKER 04 :
It may show up a little bit later, and your car may stink for a long time.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, and it always shows up around here in the spring when we have those weeks of rain. That’s when all of a sudden all the humidity comes on. We get all those green connectors, and the car starts acting up. And then we clean it up, and then the rest of the summer it’s fine.
SPEAKER 13 :
So for those of you listening, you’re thinking, okay, so how do I know all of this? It might be difficult, and here’s the thing. If they’re going to be difficult, go someplace else and buy a different car because here’s what will happen. Every single car damaged, and I know this is going to sound really outlandish, but it’s true. Every single car on that lot, I don’t care if there’s 300 cars on the lot, every one of those will have their own individual report to that insurance company that’s insuring those cars for that dealership And you have every right to look at the report of the damage that was done to the vehicle prior to any repairs being done. And if they’re not willing to give you that report of what that particular vehicle had as damage, so you can look at the things we just got done talking about. Was the sunroof damaged? How much hail was done? How much PDR did they get done? Did they actually remove and replace some panels? I mean, you can get a report on all of that prior to buying that vehicle off that new car lot. And if you can’t get that report, don’t buy the car.
SPEAKER 14 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 13 :
It’s that simple.
SPEAKER 14 :
It is.
SPEAKER 13 :
And trust me, they have that report And they’ll have it even on file for that car because every car has got its own file. That’s how dealerships do things. Paper even. It’s not all electronic, believe it or not. Still a lot of dealerships running paper files on these things because that’s where they’ll slip these things in. There’ll be a sleeve or a folder or, you know, every dealership calls it something different. But there’ll be a folder on that particular car that’ll have that information in it. So it’s not hard for a new car manager to go grab that and show you. And if they don’t have it, just go buy the car someplace else. All right. Another full two hours coming your way. Jeff in Montana, hang tight. We’ll come right back. Myself, Pat, Josh, and Kent, we’ll be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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