In this episode of Drive Radio, we dive into fascinating tales from the automotive world. Join us as we chat with Pat Schneid from Alltech Automotive, exploring the intriguing discussions from an enthusiastic caller who shares experiences of a rare 1964 Chevrolet Cheetah. We explore the allure of classic cars, their increasing value, and the challenges of maintaining these treasures from the past.
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All right, and Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Yeah, and Pat’s with us today, Pat Schneid from Alltech Automotive. And, yeah, you can plug any one. Fantastic. Good morning. As long as you can hear, we’re all good. I can hear you well. All right, and good morning, everybody out there. We did a nice hour on Fix-It Radio this last hour. Some of you are probably continuing on with us, which we appreciate very much. And I’ve got a couple of text messages in from that. So really quick, we had talked in this last fix it radio hour about just, you know, what to buy, when to buy service contracts on appliances, which we can change that over even to the car side during this hour. And I got a nice message in from somebody talking about how, yeah, to your point, uh, In this particular case, his dad only buys things when they’re absolutely broken. He doesn’t do anything on the front side. And I will tell you that maybe it’s why I am the way I am because I grew up that way also. My dad was the same. He fixed and tried to keep things running as long as he possibly could and rarely bought anything unless it was absolutely necessary and broken. And at that point in time, typically it became a crisis. And I think for me, I’m the opposite of that because of Growing up that way. Ken Rackley joining us as well from Toon Tech and just walking in. Ken, how are you?
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Always good to be here.
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Always good to see you as well. Appreciate you. And I don’t know if you guys have met in person. Pat, Ken, Ken, Pat. It’s been a while. Once before.
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Good to see you, Ken. Good to see you too, Pat.
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Lines open 303-477-5600. Art in Lakewood, you’re first today. Go ahead, Art.
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Well, good morning, John. It’s always a pleasure listening to your show. And, you know, I had a quick, I’ve got a couple of questions before I ask you the automotive question. I’d like to know when Eric was down there in Antarctica. I was there in 79 and 80.
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After you because he’s probably not as – well, I know he’s not as old. And, Eric, if you want to text me in when you were there, if you’re comfortable with that, I’ll let people know when you were there. But, no, I already know it was later than that, Art.
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Yeah. Okay, good.
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Anyway, I have to – Okay, so really quick before we move on, Art, because I always ask this for folks that have been there. The earth is round, right, Art? Oh, shut up.
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I thought it was flat.
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Cause all of those flat earthers, they think that Antarctica is just a big ice wall and really doesn’t exist. But I know people like you and Eric have been there. So that’s not true.
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Well, and I’ll say it was an amazing adventure. We were there for the 79, 80 Austral summer. But anyway, uh, Yeah, you heard the sarcasm in my voice.
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Yes, I did. Well, and just on a side note, because you’ve been there and we that have not been, like myself, you see the videos of the endless day, I guess you could say, in Antarctica just, by the way, about a month and a half or so ago, Art, literally the sun just circles around the horizon. I’m assuming you’ve seen that.
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Oh, absolutely. Yeah, it was really cool.
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It was…
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Finally, one day, the sun stayed about three or four inches off the horizon and just went around and around in a circle.
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Crazy.
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So cool.
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That would be an experience, and I know there are folks that figure that out and they plan it. For those of you listening, that’s a very expensive trip to go do unless you’re stationed there and you have that ability. But otherwise, Art, I think roughly that’s about a $40,000 trip if you want to go do that.
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Yeah, I’ve heard stuff along those lines. Yeah, we flew out of Point Magoo Naval Base, which was once on California, and we flew into Christchurch, New Zealand. And then they outfitted us, and we went down in C-130s.
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Okay, okay. Awesome. By the way, thank you for that, Art. I appreciate that.
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Well, John, I’m a regular guy from Colorado, born and raised – We used to get our auto parts from Larry Mason’s Auto Parts in downtown Littleton, which was years and years ago. But anyway, I have to say something before I ask you this OEM question for General Motors. You had a prerecorded show last week on Barrett-Jackson, and you said if you could beat a Barrett-Jackson and money wasn’t the object, what would you like to have and what I would like to have is a 1964 Chevrolet Cheetah.
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Oh, yeah. And I was actually live last week, Art. That wasn’t prerecorded, so I was live last week. But, yes, I was here and threw that question out. And I wish I had been at Barrett-Jackson last weekend, but because of other things that were going on and just timing didn’t work this year for me to do it, I’ll most likely be there next year. But a 1964 Cheetah. Yeah. Are you familiar? Uh, I’m looking it up right now. Vaguely, vaguely. Oh yeah. That was like a, that was like a, um, a Corvette combo, right?
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Oh, it was a screamer. I’ll tell you what they, uh, they started walking away from the Cobras and had they, had they stayed in business, they would have just smoked the Cobras. Uh, they were, had a three 27 in it. They had the, uh, pipes that ran right down, you know, the weed burners that run right underneath. And it didn’t have a drive shaft. The transmission hooked directly up to the rear end. Okay. And 327. And I think they were the 375-horse Vette motors. And, man, I tell you.
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And I just looked them up. Twenty-five of them produced. They were backed by Chevrolet. And if you have one today at all, you’re worth about a half a million bucks.
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okay so there you go that’s a good choice art trying to find parts for those yeah oh man can you imagine just driving one of those what how sweet you know i’ve watched a lot of videos and watched the guys And they were live videos, and it’s just amazing.
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But anyway— Yeah, right here, I’m reading that 327, they claim, made more than 500 horsepower at that time. So that was pretty healthy. In a pretty light car. Yeah, pretty healthy. But they rated it at 350. Well, because they were racing, it probably didn’t matter. It wasn’t a street car. It was a race car, yeah. All right, yeah.
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Yeah, it was strictly on the track, you know, but—
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Well, I’ll tell you what, it’s sweet. And by the way, I’m looking up this too, Art, because I didn’t know this. You just piqued my interest. So there’s only 13 known left. Right.
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Yeah. And it’s a long story. And that was during that time when General Motors was starting to back away from NASCAR. And these private, and I can’t remember the name of those guys, there were a couple of brothers and they got together and And I might be incorrect about the brothers. But anyway, these guys got together and started producing these. And that’s when General Motors backed out, so there was private funds coming from General Motors, and they were starting to put these things together. But anyway, they were really cool.
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Interesting. Thank you. I didn’t know much about that at all, so thank you for the history lesson, Art. I didn’t know that.
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They almost kind of look like Opel GT on steroids.
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Correct. They do. Yes, yes, yes.
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Yeah. Wow. I’m amazed. John Rush didn’t know something about it.
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I did not know anything about a cheetah till just now. And Art, as you know, I try to research and study it. And granted, this was a little before my time. I was born in 64, about when these were out. So, yeah, I don’t have a ton of recollection on those.
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Yeah. Well, and you know that it’s. you might get a kick out of getting on to YouTube and do some of the videos on it.
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Oh, I will. Absolutely, I will. Now I will. Thank you, Art. Absolutely.
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That whole film is fun to watch.
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Yeah, no, it is. Absolutely. Absolutely. Oh, man, they’re screamers. They were really cool. Thank you. Again, I appreciate that very much.
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Okay, well, listen. I’ve got a 1997… Chevy four-wheel drive Z71. And I’m looking for an ignition switch for it. And my question is to you, John, you know, Delco Remy and also, let’s see, there was Delco Remy and AC Delco. Those have been the mainstay of the General Motors OEMs for years. years and years, but now, you know, everything’s done overseas, and a lot of that electrical stuff comes from China. Are you aware of any manufacturer here in the United States that still produce electrical components for the older Chevys?
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Unless you’re finding some new old stock, eBay, something along those lines are, no, I do not. And both of these guys are still doing these things on a daily basis.
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Yeah, I mean, some of the stuff you see, I mean, as it comes in boxed, you know, we try to get, you know, a lot of that stuff too. But, you know, we see it made in Singapore, Taiwan, you know, China, whatever. Exactly. And even when it was new, some of it was made there, too. So, yeah, it’s really hard to say. But, yeah, hard to find something unless it actually says it. Absolutely.
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Yeah, I had to replace the ignition switch in it here about a couple years ago. And then that went bad, and I had to put another one in. And so that’s what my question is. I’m trying to. see if there’s somebody still here in the United States. And that’s a good tip. Like, like you said, uh, like maybe eBay, something like that. Uh, see if I can find an original.
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Cause there are, you know, believe it still happens. You know, you’ll, you’ll see these stories, even art on, you know, internet, different, uh, uh, publications that are out there. You’ll Hagerty, you’ll see guys all of a sudden finding an old dealership that had been shuttered years and years ago. And, And for whatever reason, all inventory still being in it, cars, parts and so on. So, yeah, there will be guys that at auction will get a hold of some of those things and then they’ll have some new old stock that they’re trying to get rid of. And I’m not saying you won’t find any or that you will, but, you know, you may. There’s still those stories running around and guys still trying to get rid of some of that stuff when they acquire it. Right.
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In fact, I just did a quick Internet search here, and I did find one available on eBay that does say made in USA.
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So there you go, Art. Now, you’re going to pay more, but yes, you can still find some of those.
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Well, you know, and just talk about manufacturers. I’m sure you were aware of Spiegel’s Auto Parts. Which one again? You broke up. Sorry, Art. Spiegel’s. Spiegel’s Auto Parts. Sure, yes. On South Santa Fe. Yes. You know, one of the guys that was the son, he and I went to school together. But I’ll tell you what, when they were closing that place out, you know, I went down and I bought some stuff. And we used to buy stuff from there quite a bit. And you wouldn’t believe, when they sold all that stuff, John, I mean, we’re talking tractor-trailer loads that they shipped off to Washington State and to Oregon. I mean, and the old man, Mr. Fiegel himself, which was the grandfather, you know, he got hit down there on Santa Fe way back in the, I think it was in the late 50s, early 60s. And he was walking across the street to pick up a piece of plywood, and the wind caught him and it threw him into a car. Too bad. Yeah. So anyway, they closed that place, oh, I think about four or five years ago. And there was no place. I walked through that place. When they were closing down, thousands of pieces, parts.
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What you’re going to find is some of the stuff on eBay art is either somebody that was kind of in that world at the time and maybe has hung on to some of these things, or they have run across other new old stock from dealerships closing down or even independent – by the way – And we in our side of it, even the independents at times, you find some of those that may close up. And, you know, when I had my stores back in the day, for example, Art, I stocked, you know, a couple hundred thousand dollars of parts at each location. And you find some of those even where guys have had old stock kicking around that, you know. have now closed up and somebody’s auctioning off or selling off or they acquire or whatever. So how long will some of that new old stock be around for some vehicles? It just depends on how many old barns of stuff are out there kicking around that no one knows about.
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Well, right. And then when somebody finds that, do they just pitch it or do they take the time to try to market it and sell it?
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If they know what it is, they’ll probably sell it.
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Right, exactly.
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But to your point, Mark, I think that’s the only way you’re going to find what you’re looking for. Right. And as you know, really quick to close out, the truck you’re driving, as you know, is appreciating right now on a daily slash monthly, yearly basis. So that’s one of those that, yeah, hang on to it, and you’re not losing money on it at this point.
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Right, exactly. And the truth of the matter is I’ve got a mechanic that I’ve used for probably 10 years, and I really like him. And he tells me the same thing. He says, why don’t you buy a new truck, you know? And I said, why? The thing runs so good.
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The only reason to buy a new truck, Art, would be to keep that one in a more pristine condition, knowing it’s going up in value. That’s the only reason to buy a new one. Keep the miles off of it. Yeah, that’s the only reason. Keep it out of harm’s way. That’s right.
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It’s only got 110,000 miles on it.
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As anybody would know, and I’m not joking, that is one of those vehicles that, because all of the older models have been somewhat depleted, and so that series of truck now has gained value and is going to continue to go up in value because it’s just the next natural one for that to happen with.
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Well, and the thing is, if you… If you go down to Colorado Auto Parts down there on Santa Fe, where they used to have massive amounts of vehicles, They only keep them, I think, about 30 days, and they start crushing them up. I mean, all the different kinds of cars.
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Yeah, most of the salvage yards will only keep, you know, cars that are newer than 10 years. Yes. You know, because it’s just not, you know, it’s just low.
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And this is one of those vehicles, too, for Art and everybody else listening. This isn’t one of those that you go to, you know, Kelly Blue Book or wherever to determine value because they’ll be way off.
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But somebody will pay for it.
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That’s right.
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They’re worth more.
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than that especially you know if you’ve got a unique vehicle if it’s a four-wheel drive if it’s a short box or an extra cab or something along those lines art value is even you know is even going up faster on those yeah yeah yeah well i sure like it and i’ve tried to maintain it you know because when i bought it i bought it in 08 and it only had uh 20 000 miles on it and you know
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There’s been things like Chevrolet has problems with, like, the intake manifold gaskets have to be replaced. And I’ve done all that, and I keep the maintenance up on it. I know how to do that. But it’s a great truck. I wouldn’t hesitate to hop in and do a West Coast tour around. You know, you put those old Chevy.
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I owned several of those back in the day. No, they’re solid, which I still did. I should have probably kept them. Yeah, my brother had one. It is what it is. Yep. All right, I got to run. Appreciate you, sir. Okay. All right, man. Thank you very much. Jerry and Brian, both guys, hang tight. We’ll come right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we’re back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Somebody also asked, what is the question of the day? And that is, what is the best car you’ve ever owned? Could be truck as well. Best car, truck you’ve ever owned and why? Give us that answer. Jerry and Greeley, you are next. Go ahead, Jerry.
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A friend of mine has a couple of Hondas, a 2016 CR-V and a 2019 Ridgeline. And I mentioned to him what you’ve recommended in the past about using EPR for the oil changes on direct injection engines. Correct. And he wasn’t really even sure if they had direct injection. So we did a little looking online, and I stumbled across this enthusiast forum and said, Somebody in there was claiming that their Honda engines are less susceptible to the coking on the backside of the intake valves because of the way they position the injector, like way down low near the bottom edge of the cylinder head, so that it basically sprays on the backside of the valve. and then somebody else contradicted that, and they’re having a little dispute because another fellow said, well, that the injector fired during the compression stroke, which I’d never heard of before, which sounded wacky to me, but I was wondering if you knew anything about that.
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Not directly on the firing on the injection stroke. No, I am aware that that Honda engine in the 2016 CR-V is a gasoline direct injection. So I’m not quite sure. You’re saying depending on where they put that injector, if it still washes the backside of that intake valve. I am not familiar with that. Can’t? It can’t. Yeah, it doesn’t seem like it. Normally, they’ve got to be on the other side of that intake valve to be called direct injection. But what I would say, in either case, it would not be harmful to do that gasoline direct injection service.
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Some are more susceptible than others. Yeah, and maybe they are a little bit less susceptible.
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And the EPR treatment, Jerry, at an oil change is such minimal cost. I mean, you’re not adding more than $25 to $50, depending upon who’s doing it and how they’re charging you and so on. At the end of the day, looking at what it does to maintain the quality of the inside of that engine, you’re not hurting yourself by doing so. Right. Is it a must on that particular engine? And I’m not familiar with, by the way, Honda having less problems because of that. Any direct injection engine is going to be more susceptible to carbon buildup, period. And what they’re trying to do now, Jerry, to help with some of that is some of the manufacturers, for example. you know 2024 2025 some models they’re adding an injector on the intake side to help with some of what we’re talking about so some of the manufacturers are trying to cure that problem by doing that but any in the head injector where it’s directing it right into the combustion chamber is going to have more carbon buildup period yeah
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Well, yeah, that all makes sense. That’s kind of what I was thinking. There’s certainly no harm, right, to doing EPR?
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Correct. Correct. So, again, and these are things, by the way, and I had a long conversation with a couple of my coaching clients this past week on this very subject, and this is one of those things where the majority, if not all, but – a one-off here and there on the dealer side most dealers are not going to tell you anything about what we’re talking about because they literally have been instructed by their manufacturer to not go down this path because they’re trying to get people to understand that we don’t need to do anything it’s a total cost of ownership thing it’s why most toyota dealers will tell you you don’t have to even do anything on the transmission until 100k plus And on and on and on we go, Jerry. The reality is you’re not going to hear this from the dealers themselves. And there’s many a video out there from the independent side, especially when it comes to transmission service, verifying what I’m telling you because the dealers don’t want you knowing because it affects their total cost of ownership on the car.
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Now, I do think that may be changing. So, as you know, we are all big supporters of a product line called BG. They actually produced the EPR, Engine Performance Restoration. Correct. Our rep with BG has told me that just last year, so in the spring of 2024, General Motors started advocating this 15,000-mile gasoline direct injection service. And in the fall of 2024, Ford also is putting some support behind it. So I think that market is changing. Yes, it’s pretty new, though. BG, of course, themselves have been advocating this for 15 years or more, right? Right. Yeah.
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And even on my non-GDI vehicles, I do that on every vehicle that I own.
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Not hurting anything.
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I mean, yeah. Not hurting anything at all. You know, it helps clean passages. I mean, it doesn’t hurt anything at all. All it can do is help.
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Well, regarding my friend’s 2016 CR-V and his 2019 Ridgeline, would there be any other particular maintenance items you might recommend?
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I mean, other than the normal scheduled transmission, differentials, things along those lines.
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Okay. I mean, as you hear us talk all the time, Jerry, Honda, solid product line, nothing wrong with their vehicles at all. And what they’re going to be doing now with Nissan will do nothing but make both of them better when it’s all said and done. So, yeah, I have nothing bad to say about Honda. But on that same token, like Toyota and all of the other vehicles that are out there, proper maintenance is still a must no matter what you’re driving.
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All right. Well, I appreciate the advice. You’re very welcome.
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No, thank you. Thank you, Jerry, for that. I appreciate it very much. Great questions, by the way. Brian in Longmont, hang tight. Tom in Commerce City. We have a line open, 303-477-5600. Myself, Pat, and Ken, we will be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 14 :
Hey, John, and your associates there, Ken and Pat. Good to talk to you.
SPEAKER 06 :
You too, Brian.
SPEAKER 14 :
Thank you, sir. Back in your first caller… Back in 1964, I was all of 21 years old, and I think, memory’s not what it used to be, but I’m virtually certain that the man who made this cheetah happen was a gentleman named Bill Thomas.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep, you’re right. I looked that up. You were right.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, and he was kind of a bulldog kind of a guy. But, yeah, that cheetah… did a lot of good stuff. And it also reminded me that when you’re talking about the early Corvettes, and when you’re talking about the early Corvettes, you talk about Zora Arkus Duntov.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh yeah, Duntov, sure. The king.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. And you probably know that aftermarket overhead valve heads for the Ford Flathead V8, they were called Arden Headers.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s right, that’s right.
SPEAKER 14 :
And Arden is Arcus Duntoff, A-R-D-U-N. So that’s just a little bit of history of our favorite, one of our favorite subjects.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey Brian, have you known these guys? Pardon? Have you known and hung out with some of these guys?
SPEAKER 14 :
Not really. I knew some of the I knew some early Cobra drivers but and I followed I was a big time road and track subscriber and wasn’t able to travel all the races and stuff but Carroll Shelby and All those people. So, yeah, it was a good time for sure. And, of course, we can still get, like, your ad by Paul Linagro. That’s a really good ad that people should pay attention to if they have a classic.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. Right. And Brian, as far as your story a moment ago, I would have to ask the question, what was his IQ, all of what he did in regards to Chevrolet, the Corvette, streamlining things, making more power when literally other folks were laughing at the small block Chevy at that time and some of the things that he did. I mean, what do you think his IQ level was to do some of the things he did? far more than mine let’s just say that i would say three times beyond genius um yeah i mean that i mean literally brian that’s a guy that literally um i mean let’s let’s say it for what it is changed the automotive world at that time with some of the things he did right and i think as knowledgeable as he was i think he was uh
SPEAKER 14 :
He’s very firm in what he did and what he said, but I believe that he was also a fairly decent man to work with. So that’s a good feature a lot of times.
SPEAKER 06 :
It’s a great quality, yep. Yeah, he was, as we know, his nickname is, of course, I’m looking it up, but father of the Corvette, which I already knew. And literally, he and the Henry Earls that was with Buick at the time, I mean, those guys, Brian, did things. And not that there weren’t some great… you know, folks and designers and things at Ford, there were, but the reality is, man, some of those guys of that day, holy cow, did they have a mind like, no tomorrow.
SPEAKER 14 :
They did, and just on a styling level, the Buick Y-Job was, I think, from the late 40s, I think it was that early,
SPEAKER 06 :
But really quick, Brian, I didn’t know this. Where is Mr. Duntoff buried?
SPEAKER 14 :
I cannot say. I do not know that.
SPEAKER 06 :
National Corvette Museum, which I did not know either until just looking it up. That’s a good legacy.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s the way it ought to be because he’s an icon.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, so there you go. I did not know that. I’ve learned several things today from you all as listeners, so thank you. I did not know that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, that’s pretty cool.
SPEAKER 14 :
And I wanted to throw in also the early GMCs, the pickups, they had an extra main bearing. which Chevrolet did not have. Correct. Yeah, so, you know, things are different. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
Back in the day, you’re saying there was a difference between GMC and Chevrolet. There’s not so much anymore. It’s more badging.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. Along with that comment there of badging, there was a gentleman who bought a Oldsmobile. Now, I’m brand new and I’m not sure when this was, I think it might have been in the 70s. But anyway, it didn’t have an Oldsmobile engine in it. It had something that said General Motors or something. And, and he said, I want an Oldsmobile engine, and he sued them, and they had to pay him.
SPEAKER 10 :
I think, you know what, I remember. I remember my dad saying something about that.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think you’re right on that too, Brian. I remember something along those lines.
SPEAKER 10 :
I think it was a Cadillac with a small block Chevy in it or something like that.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think something along those lines, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
And that would have been in the 70s or something, yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I’m thinking 70s, but I’m not sure.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I’m pretty sure it was in the 70s because I remember my dad talking about it.
SPEAKER 07 :
right yeah hey well you guys have a good thank you brian no you appreciate thanks for taking us down memory lane those are things that i just learned i did not know prior tom and commerce city you’re next uh good morning john and is it ken and pat there with you yes hi tom so hey i just uh bought a uh a car from an online vendor and had 8 000 miles it’s a tig one okay and uh Oh, 1,000 miles into it, it threw a check engine light. It’s got the P2-2180 set. It’s pretty common. It’s a, you know, system two lean, idle bank one. And I looked it up online, and there’s just a whole slew of things that can cause that to be an alarm. It’s under warranty, and so I was wanting to actually take it to the dealer and have them fully check it out, but their warranty is going to send me to the, well, there’s a Firestone dealer. You know, auto care.
SPEAKER 10 :
And I was wondering because Volkswagen is kind of a… An extended warranty or a factory warranty?
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s actually the vendor warranty. It’s just for a few days.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, okay. Well, hang on. Let’s back up for a moment. What year is it, Tom?
SPEAKER 07 :
It is a 24-tig one. It’s a new one. It’s got 8,000 miles on it. Take that to the dealer.
SPEAKER 06 :
Don’t go to it. Yeah, that’s going to be under the emissions warranty. You’re not going to pay any money, period. It’s not even under the emissions warranty. It’s a bumper-to-bumper warranty still. I would not go anywhere other than a Volkswagen dealer for that, period.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, well.
SPEAKER 06 :
Do not go any, I mean.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right, and it’s not a salvage, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, yeah, it’s not. Oh, no, no, it’s not a salvage. Yeah, just go to the dealer. So it’s a clean title, 8K, probably second owner, I’m guessing, Tom. Right. That’s still going to have full factory warranty. Don’t go anywhere other than there, period. Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, well, that’s great advice because I was scheduled to go someplace, a firestone there.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, no offense. A, they shouldn’t be working on it under that kind of circumstance anyways.
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s probably what they would send you there anyway.
SPEAKER 06 :
I doubt they’re going to have the equipment needed to even figure it out. You just need to go to the dealer. But then, like you said, it should be 100% covered. It will be. Yeah, exactly. It will be. Will that be 100% covered under the Volkswagen?
SPEAKER 07 :
Factory warranty.
SPEAKER 06 :
You’re 12 and 12, bumper to bumper, full warranty on that. No matter who owns it, we’ll cover that car. Again, the only exceptions for everybody listening, and Ken brought it up, the only exceptions to that is if that car has been somehow flagged as no warranty for whatever reason or it’s a salvaged title vehicle, they will then not have full factory warranty either. And when I mean flagged under warranty, there are certain circumstances where something may happen And it doesn’t have to be an accident that can flag a vehicle to where it no longer has a particular warranty on that car for a particular system. For example, somebody made some major modification and it went into the dealer. The dealer now can flag that for having done that modification and things like that. And these are things even back when I had my stores, Tom, doing all the work we did on off-road vehicles. We’d run into that occasionally and have to fight with the OEM over something and everything. Long story short, there are some things that can get flagged, but unless that’s the case on yours, I highly doubt that is. You should have full bumper-to-bumper warranty.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, because, I mean, I had a printout of its history, and everything was clean.
SPEAKER 06 :
You should be fine.
SPEAKER 07 :
In the future, because I kind of maintain my own vehicles, I like to do it, a couple questions here. You know, the injector cleaner, would you recommend putting that in –
SPEAKER 06 :
In the fuel tank, like every… On that car there, that is definitely a vehicle you need to be doing the BGEPR at the oil change, MOA as the additive added in as you’re putting the new oil in, and the 44K in the gas tank at every oil change at 4,000 miles. Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
And check, too, since that’s a lien code, check and make sure when they – before they sold it to you, when they did their – probably their service on it, make sure the air cleaner – Everything’s tight. Everything’s tight. Make sure there’s no loose hose clamps, stuff like that, any hoses off. Just, you know, since you do that yourself anyway.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and thank you, Ken.
SPEAKER 10 :
Just make sure because if there’s something that’s – They’ll charge you. Right. They’ll charge you.
SPEAKER 06 :
If that – If the air box isn’t tight, for example, Tom, and they’ve got to fix something along those lines, yeah, they will charge you for that because that’s not a warranty situation.
SPEAKER 10 :
Vent hose off or anything like that. Yeah, just make sure.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I did pop the hood and look at it. Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
As long as everything’s good, tight together, you should have no issues.
SPEAKER 07 :
And then also on that engine here, at least in Colorado, the minimum fuel, you know, 87 is what they recommend.
SPEAKER 10 :
You can run the 85.
SPEAKER 07 :
You could run 85 in that engine?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. Because there’s not a manufacturer out there that will put 85 on their minimum.
SPEAKER 06 :
They can’t because they’re selling everything mostly at sea level.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right, because, yeah, so they just put 87 as a base, and that’s why we sell 85 here for our altitude.
SPEAKER 06 :
And Ken’s right. With all that said, though, Tom, you may find – this is where you’ve got to do some of your own testing – you may find running premium, because it’s a turbo car – that, A, your fuel economy and power is actually better than it is running the normal 85. You’re going to have to do some testing on your own and see. You can run whatever you want to in it with no problem, but you may find that the higher octane fuel actually not only performs better but does better on fuel economy. You’ll have to just mess with that and see.
SPEAKER 07 :
So I had heard that running the minimum fuel on it could actually make the injectors dirty.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, if you’re running top-tier, and there’s even some folks out there that will argue with me on the top-tier end of things, but if you run top-tier fuel even at the lowest grade, no. Yeah, it’s got the additives. Yeah, and again, this is a long conversation, and I’ll get lots of feedback on this, but just don’t buy cut-rate fuel. And if you go to a station, and I’m not going to name names, if you go to a station and they want you to buy an additive pack, go somewhere else. Oh, okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
And then… Okay, and then also, you know, it requires, you know, the full synthetic 020.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. Yes, that is a have to. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 07 :
And then I’ve always had good luck with Quaker State.
SPEAKER 06 :
Doesn’t matter what brand. We are not brand specific on this show, and I can give you many a video and guys that have even done independent testing that would back up what I’m saying. Brand name has nothing to do with it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Is that right? Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Zero. None.
SPEAKER 07 :
And then I’ve heard you in the past, you know, every 10,000 miles with full synthetic.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, full synthetic on yours all the time, period. Every car on the road today, as far as I’m concerned. But he’s asking about 10,000-mile intervals. No, 4,000, like I said earlier. 4,000, Tom.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, 4,000 is what the interval should be?
SPEAKER 06 :
On that direct injection turbo car, 4,000. Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, all right. Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
Which will be more often than the dealer tells you. Exactly. I think that’s what we’re getting to here is you can pay me now or pay me later. And so what we’re suggesting is great maintenance to keep your car on the road for the longest period of time. It’s not that it won’t run for a while at those other levels. You will run into problems later if you don’t do the great maintenance now. That’s right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. Well, great. Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Tom, I’m late on a break. Thank you, by the way, though. I appreciate it. Mark, Conrad, you guys hang tight. One line open. We’ll be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 06 :
All right. We are back. And I was notified because we didn’t I don’t know, didn’t know this. We have done some phone system changes here at the station. And so right now, if you call him when all the lines are full, like now, you might get it. Well, you will get a recording. It’s a British accent lady. It’s just kind of standard with our phone system. And now that we’re aware that we need to. change and update that we will do our best to do that during the week so don’t leave a message because no i’m not going to call you back sorry uh just keep trying if you get that message that means the lines are full and just keep trying and eventually you’ll get through so we’ll get that updated so thank you by the way for notifying me of that because i was not aware of that prior mark and wiggins go ahead hey good morning again good morning mark
SPEAKER 09 :
Hey, I had to answer the question of the day, another question, but I definitely wanted to say, you know, you were talking about fuel and top tier. Years ago, I would buy, you know, King Supers or Safeway as cheap as I could, the lowest octane, with points, just to, you know, get on by. And unfortunately, it cost me a rebuilt engine. You know, I had to get an engine redone because of that. And when I took it to the rebuild shop, which was Greeley Automotive Machine, they said, well, you know, what kind of fuel are you using? And so I told him, and he said, well, that’s exactly what caused this. And if you just, you know, use top-tier fuel, you’ll never have this problem. And so that’s all I use now. I actually use this top-tier station finder app, which makes it really easy to figure out, you know, if you’re traveling or even local to find a station with top-tier fuel or And I haven’t had any fuel problems since. But, you know, your question of the day.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think that’s a pretty good testimonial on its own. Right. Exactly.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, it is.
SPEAKER 09 :
Your question of the day, favorite vehicle and why. So my previous vehicle. uh, my, uh, 2020 WRX, uh, with steering controlled headlights. Uh, yeah. Having the headlights like turn when you turn is awesome.
SPEAKER 06 :
I agree. There’s some new cars. I get the test drive mark that have that feature and it is a very nice feature. Yes. I agree.
SPEAKER 09 :
Like a motorcycle. Oh yeah. Yeah. It definitely has a different feel to it, especially like, In slower speeds, you notice it pretty more exaggerated, I think, probably for the reasons of going through residential areas for safety reasons.
SPEAKER 06 :
The other thing about those, Mark, really quick that I enjoy and you can comment on is they self-level also, which is very nice. That is cool.
SPEAKER 09 :
That I didn’t know.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, they self-level. So if you’ve got a vehicle where you’ve got a lot of stuff in the back or extra passengers or whatever, yeah, they will self-level. Nice.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, that’s awesome. I did not know that. I mean, I know, you know, when you start the vehicle, it would go through this, like, almost like a calibration.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 09 :
Where it was, like, left, right, up, down.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 09 :
Kind of like, whoa. And then it’s straight, and you’re like, what was that?
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s right. It’s doing all of what I just said. It’s doing all of its, to your point, calibrating, knowing where things are at, self-leveling, and off it goes.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Very cool. I wish they all had that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I do. I wish the others had it, too. I really like it. I like to keep up with tech, and I know you’re a tech guy. I’ve tried to search out this question, but haven’t been able to find sufficient answers. I thought I’d ask you. Is there a HUD, like a heads-up display system, with a synthetic vision for being able to see through fog or snow?
SPEAKER 06 :
Not that I’m aware of, unless you know of something, Ken or Pat.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, I just remember seeing one of the Cadillac commercials, I don’t know, five, ten years ago, that in the night you’re driving and it would pick up on a deer coming out.
SPEAKER 06 :
I’ve seen some of those, yes.
SPEAKER 10 :
And I don’t know if that’s what you’re talking about, but I don’t think that system stuck around very long. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I don’t think it worked super well.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right, exactly. It’s a Cadillac, so they do a lot of experimental stuff and sell it to the public.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I was just curious if they ever tried to advance that or if it was just not even. I have not.
SPEAKER 06 :
Now, I will say, and we’ve got about a minute left, Mark, but I will say that with more of the automated, the higher-level driving systems that we’re going to continue to see now that COVID’s over and things are starting to get back on track and the R&D and so on, I do think you’re going to see more things like that coming in the future.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, yeah. Well, and with radar already on the vehicles and then, you know.
SPEAKER 06 :
Pedestrian awareness, all those sorts of things.
SPEAKER 10 :
Enhanced radar that, you know, imaging.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s right. Radar imaging. Yeah, I do think, Mark, down the road you’re going to see some of what you’re asking. It’s not there yet, but it’s coming.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, my hope is that some of that helps with, you know, the stop-and-go slinky effect when you’re in traffic.
SPEAKER 06 :
I would hope so. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 09 :
slow or reduce that effect because i’ve seen some you know physics uh examples on youtube and it’s like okay well that’s really difficult to manage yeah but if you automated it a little bit and take some of the human issue out of it the phantom wreck on the freeway that backs everybody up when all it was was some guy slamming on his brakes for whatever reason and now the chain effect is there and yeah if we could eliminate that mark as somebody that drives in that stuff daily absolutely i’m in
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep, yep. Sounds good. Absolutely. Mark, great questions, by the way. Thank you, man. Appreciate you very much. Cheyenne, John, hang tight. Conrad as well. We do have a line open, 303-477-5600. Text line 307-200-8222. And, guys, we’ll be right back. Myself, Ken Rackley, Tunetech Automotive. Pat Schneidt from Alltech Automotive up in Fort Collins. Charlie Grimes, our engineer. And, of course, Larry Unger answering phones. We’ll be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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