It’s Valentine’s weekend on Drive Radio, so the crew flips the script: what’s the first car or truck you fell in love with? Listeners light up the phones with everything from a Shelby Cobra to a Ford Maverick Grabber, plus fastback Mustangs, classic aero-back Chevys, and the kind of rides you never forget.
From there, John reads a blunt social post that hits a nerve: the car scene didn’t used to be about “who’s watching.” It was about engineering, design, sound, speed, creativity—and the pure feel of the drive. The conversation rolls into why the C8 Corvette is such a
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And welcome, Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Thanks for joining us today. Myself, Steve Horvath from Geno’s Auto Service. Happy Valentine’s Day to all of you listening. And if it’s a replay show, no, I get it. It won’t be that day, but it’s Valentine’s Day weekend, I guess you could say. It is the 14th of February. Larry Unger answering phones. Charlie Grimes, our engineer. And again, appreciate all of you listening. And Steve and I were here for Fix It Radio earlier, so we’ve already done our good morning.
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question of the day to go along with valentine’s day i picked this one out to try to coincide give me the car or truck that you first fell in love with now you may have owned it maybe never owned it maybe you want to own it someday or maybe it’s just a car that when you were young that was that was your car whatever so give me the car or truck that you first fell in love with that is our question of the day and i found an article or I shouldn’t say an article, a post. Let me say it that way. Social media post. This is coming from a guy by the name of Jason Gerdner. I don’t know Jason. I just happened to see this post, and I thought, you know, there’s a lot to be said about this in the automotive community. Let me read what he says, and then we can maybe discuss this. Some of you may want to call in on this. I saw a video the other day where an influencer, quote, unquote, was tearing apart not physically but emotionally and so on online tearing apart the c8 corvette he said no one’s coming to check out your corvette they barely even come to check out lamborghinis anymore This hit me the wrong way. Somewhere along the line, the car scene turned into the flex scene. It stopped being about engineering, sound, design, speed and passion. It became about status, about whether strangers validate your purchase, about whether your car pulls the crowd. That mindset is hollow. Cars are art. They are mechanical expression. A C8 Corvette is an absurd performance bargain with real engineering behind it. A Lamborghini is rolling aggression in design theater. A slammed Honda with questionable camber and a turning radius like a school bus still represents someone’s time, money, and creativity. Someone built that. Someone cares about that. You do not have to like every build, but dismissing them because they do not pull spectators is shallow. If your enjoyment of a car depends on who comes to check it out, you’re not into cars, you’re into attention. Real car culture is about the drive, the feel of the steering wheel up in the corner, the way the chassis talks back, the sound of an engine climbing through the rev range the first time you hit boost and it pins you back, the discipline of learning how to actually handle the machine. Most of the loudest critics do not even drive their cars the way they were designed to be driven. They park them. They pose with them. They lease the image. That is not passion. That is insecurity with a payment plan. You can flex. There is nothing wrong with being proud of what you worked for. But flex upward. Let it inspire. Do not use it to diminish someone else who is on a different step of the ladder. Cars deserve better than being reduced to props in a social hierarchy. Well said. I love it. I love it. Well said. So for those of you like me that are passionate car people, which I am, Steve is, and most of you listening are. I get it. Some of you listening are just here to learn and explore and get questions answered, which we’re always here for. By the way, lines are open, 303-477-5600. Give us a call. Anything that you’ve got for us question-wise, myself and Steve will answer. But as I read that this morning, Again, it kind of coincided with, I think, the question of the day, you know, the car or truck that you first fell in love with. And for everybody, that’s different. And I personally have always been very careful to never diminish what someone else does with a vehicle, even though it may not be my style. Yeah, you’re right. For example, I’m not a Lamborghini fan. I’ll be the first to tell everybody that. Not my kind of car. They don’t do anything for me. They’ve never done anything for me. I’ve never owned one. Probably never will own one. You’ll never say never, but probably never will own one just because it’s not my kind of car. Nothing against them. And if any of you listening own one, you know, hats off to you. I’m glad you do. You worked really hard, and I’m glad that you’re able to own a vehicle of that nature. I tend to like the more rounded look, say McLaren, Ferrari. I like that look better than I do the sharp edges of what… You know, a Lamborghini has. Now, some of the C8 Corvette kind of has some hard edges, but yet they’ve done it in a way where it doesn’t look like a Lamborghini. And I still prefer some of the older Corvettes in the looks and the smoothness and so on. I agree with this particular gentleman that the C8 Corvette is really a wonderful mechanical masterpiece that Chevrolet has produced, a car for the money. is really hard to beat given its performance and what it actually does. And, yes, I own one, so I can attest to that firsthand. And it is a marvelous machine to actually drive. But I thought that was an interesting article or post is what I should say, not article, because, yeah, there’s a lot of people out there now that have gotten into the, quote, unquote, car culture that I feel are in it for all the wrong reasons. It’s just status symbol. Yeah, and I’ve never been into cars that way. In fact, most of you listening have no idea what I own. You’ll never know what I own. I look at that as it’s really nobody’s business what I own. I own because I want to own them and drive them and enjoy them. And I don’t go around flaunting and even doing pictures and so on with what I own because it’s just not me. And at the end of the day, I really don’t care. That’s not why I bought the car.
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I think you probably have a few for investment, too, but that’s a different idea, though. I mean, it would be the same as you bought an apartment complex. That’s exactly right. It’s no different. It just happens to be a car. That’s right.
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That’s right. Mike in Highlands Ranch, you’re first today. Go ahead, sir.
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Hey, boy, that guy was absolutely right on.
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Spot on.
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Absolutely spot on. Hey, listen, it’s been a while. I’m getting ready to sell one of my cars. I wanted to see if I remember the protocol properly. Doesn’t the seller have to have an emissions test?
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Technically, yes, although on the private sale end of things, very, very few, Mike, do. I always think it’s a good idea to have that test in hand, be able to show that as you’re selling the vehicle, especially if it’s something that you’re trying to get a little bit more money out of. I think it’s worthwhile in doing. But I will tell you firsthand, is it a have to? No, very, very, very few private sales in Colorado are done that way. Very few. I mean, I’ll bet you, Mike, it’s less than 1%. I think dealerships have to. Dealerships have to. That’s a whole different world. But on a private sale, Mike, I’ll bet less than 1% actually do what we’re talking about.
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Okay. Well, somewhere in my mind.
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And by the way, not saying that’s right. I’m just saying that’s how it is.
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Yeah, no. Well, somewhere in my depreciating memory, I seem to recall something about it. Anyway, I thought I’d check. Thank you very much.
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But my point, Mike, is I think you can maximize your value or you can maximize, I think, the sale a little bit better in doing so. By the way, that’s for all of you listening. Even if it’s a lower-end car, proving that it’ll pass emissions test, can you get even a few extra hundred bucks out of a low-end car? Yeah, Mike, I think you can. Yes.
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Well, you know, it passes when I have to have it done with flying colors, or it has in the past. But I kept thinking, I thought, I seem to remember something about a seller having to get it done and give a positive emissions test to the buyer so he can get his new title. I seem to remember something about… them wanting to see an emissions test when you had a sale of a car.
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They do, meaning that private sale, that new buyer is going to get an emissions test if you don’t provide one to them. And again, that’s where I think you can get a little bit more money out of the vehicle if you have it because you’re just eliminating one step that the buyer now has to go do.
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I got you. Okay, well, thank you very much. You’re very welcome. to today’s show.
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Thank you, Mike. Always appreciate you calling in. And yeah, for all of you listening, let me make sure I reiterate that. Several things you need to do when you sell a car. I’ve done episodes on this, honestly, in the past. In fact, I should make a note. That could actually be an entire extra mile topic. I’m making a note right now. That actually I may just go ahead and do because there’s a lot involved. in the selling of a car, not only in the prep but the paperwork side of things, which is what Mike is talking about. You know, I may do some research and actually do this for the following week. I may very well put that together. So, by the way, Mike, thank you for that tip. I appreciate that greatly. So, yes, there’s a lot of things you need to do. Bye. The letter of the law, as a seller in Colorado along this front range area, yes, you are supposed to make sure you’re selling a vehicle that passes emissions or you need to do it as a tow away and disclaim that it won’t and so on and so forth. And technically speaking… If it doesn’t pass, could they come back on you, small claims court or whatever, to make it pass? They could, although what I’m telling you probably rarely, rarely ever happens. So just a side note. All right. Again, question of the day. The car or truck you first fell in love with? Dave Hart from Roof Savers of Colorado just messaged me a moment ago and said Shelby Cobra. Shelby Cobra. Good one, by the way, Dave. All right. We’ll be right back, guys. Don’t go anywhere. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we have an answer to our question of the day. First car I fell in love with was the Ford Maverick Grabber. Really wanted to purchase it, but fatherly advice let me know I wouldn’t have been able to afford to own it. Sadly, my first car I owned instead was a Ford Pinto Runabout. Laughing about it now at age 66, really enjoy the show. John from Grand Junction. John, thank you for listening, by the way. I know you’re listening online because… Our signal doesn’t go to Grand Junction, so maybe it does, but probably not. I mean, that’s tough to get over the mountains. So you’re listening online. I appreciate that greatly. Thank you very much. And by the way, great answer. And again, this is one of those questions, question of the day. What’s the first car you fell in love with? there’s no wrong answer here. It’s just, what car do you, I have to go back in my mind and listen.
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I’m trying to think what you would have seen your first car, because you were in it so early.
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Yeah, I’ve got to remember now.
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And we were both kind of in it early, but, you know, you saw new cars and things at that time. I don’t know.
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I think for me, and just, you know, going back in time and listening and so on, we as a dealership and a family, we had a 64 Buick Riviera, One of the prettiest cars, in fact, still to this day, I think one of the prettiest design cars of the day, just a beautiful car. And they actually are now starting to go way up in value. And this one had the dual four barrel carburetors and was just a just an interesting car, fun car. And I think for me personally, as a young boy. That was probably one of the first cars I fell in love with because it was just a cool car for that day, that era. It had the headlight, the eyebrows that opened up for the headlights and so on. It was just a cool car for me as a kid. And I can still to this day remember the smell of that car. And it had a real cool shifter. And, you know, as a young kid, you know, 13, 14 years of age, be able to drive that car around the lot and park it and do different things. It was just a really cool car as far as all that goes. Again, that’s the question of the day. What’s the first car you fell in love with? And, again, for me, to Steve’s point a moment, I mean, I grew up around cars. I mean, I love all cars. I mean, it’s just one of those things that I got involved in, and it runs in the blood, I think. And once you’re in it, you just kind of stay in it. And, I mean, I’ll go to the grave loving cars. That’s a good thing. And it’s why I’ve been in the industry one way, one form or another. I’ve been in the industry, whether it’s owning shops or fiddling around buying and selling vehicles, whether it’s now being on radio talking to all of you. We still have a big fleet shop where we do a lot with vehicles in our own fleet and so on. So, again, at the end of the day, I’ve always done different things with vehicles, and I’m guessing, Steve, I probably always will.
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There’s probably not too many inventions that we can think of that really transformed us as a society. You know, electricity. But the car really did some pretty cool things. And you think about it in your way. You use it in the fleet shop using it as a tool to do work. And then other people use it as their status. So it’s kind of interesting how a car transcends so many things.
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Here’s a great question, really quick, before I go to Milt. This is from Wyatt in Oklahoma. Thank you, by the way, Wyatt, for listening in Oklahoma. I appreciate that greatly. Bought a 26F350, so new truck, platinum. By the way, really nice truck, so congratulations. Driver’s door handle came with a scrape. The dealer was very gracious and ordered a new handle, no questions asked. Since they’re chrome, the owner of the dealership who sold me the truck told me to hold on… You know, I probably would do that as well. You’ve got two choices. why either do that you go ahead and put some wear and tear on the original handle that’s got a little scrape in it or you could put the new handle on and then have somebody PPF it you know do the do a clear bra you know paint protection film on the new handle keeping it looking stellar in fact you could PPF that before putting it on and which actually might be easier for even the folks that are PPFing it. So that’s something to think about. And by the way, you might want to go ahead and PPF the rest of the handle so they stay nice and new. That would be my suggestion. So if you went that route, you could go ahead and replace that handle now and get it on the truck and have it all done and ready to go and then just save the – well, they’ll have to have the old – I don’t know. They’ll have to keep the old handle or not, given the fact it’s just a warranty issue. by the dealership itself they probably aren’t getting that through ford you probably could even keep the old handle as a spare which would which would work as far as that goes as well so that that that’s your call as to how you do but you could ppf those as well that’s not a hard thing to do at all milton westminster go ahead good morning john uh i uh was your theme the day uh what first caught my eyes uh kind of junior gearhead i uh
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Really like the lines. I’ve always preferred the lines of the classic aero-backs, fast-backs. Yeah. And the first one that really caught my eye, the first couple that caught my eye, was the classic 48, 49 Chevy with that streamlined aero-back. Right. Really pretty car. And along the same lines, the Tucker kind of had the fast-back design to it. The face is controversial and high-tech and stuff, but I like the lines of both of those cars. as I was starting to appreciate car design. And then later, a little more modern, a little bit older, the first two American Fastbacks, I think it was the 64-65 Barracuda, and then, of course, the 64.5-65 Mustang 2-plus-2 Fastback. Loved the lines of both of those. But along the… me and my brother brother had the same taste as me we we begged my mom and well actually begged my dad in 70 to try to let my mom get a uh 65 uh mustang two plus two fastback yeah yeah on a used car dealer and uh on carpenter’s wages he we he wound up letting my mom get a 65 notch which is still a pretty pretty classic pretty car but we begged him and begged him we said dad we’ll Me and my brother, we’re both, at that point, we were about six foot, each of us. So we said, Dad, we’ll lay in the trunk. If you need me, we will lay in the trunk. We don’t care. We’ll bake in that. You know, those were domes with that big, large glass, rear glass. And, yeah, we’ll lay down in the trunk, Dad. Would you please give Mom the two plus two? And, you know, for a few hundred more on a used car lot, my dad said, no, that’s, you know, I’m not made of money. We’ll get your mom the notch back. And I still have my mom’s notch back to this day, a 289 two-barrel. That’s awesome. I love it. She’s a sweet little car. Just, you know, it’s hard. I’ve told my kids, and I’ve even showed them pictures, I showed them a 64, 65 Falcon and the first-generation Mustang, and they go, no, that’s not on the same. There’s no way that’s on the same chassis. I say, yeah, it’s true. They based the first-generation Mustang off the Falcon chassis, and they cannot believe it because, you know, they’re just so diametrically opposed with a short hood on the Falcon, short rear deck, and then you look at a Mustang, especially the Fastback. Like I said, my brother and I, we were willing to sell the body organs to get my dad to get his ass back, you know? That’s funny. Yeah, but that was my first styling love, I guess, was your theme of Valentine’s Day, so… Yeah, that was my fetishes, I guess.
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No, good answer. Good answer, Milt. Appreciate that very much. Thanks. You bet. Have a great rest of your day, and happy Valentine’s Day to you. A good friend of mine, Paul, just sent in a 69 Roadrunner, yellow with a black interior. It was a friend’s cousin’s car. Yeah, give us that question. It’s the question of the day. What is the first car that you fell in love with? We’ll take our next break. We’ll come back. Myself, Steve Horvath. Plenty of lines open. Call us. We’ll get you in. 303-477-5600. Again, any question. It doesn’t have to be a question of the day. Anything you want to talk about, we’re here for you. Any car question, you know, whether to change oil at certain intervals or a problem you’ve got, check engine light, whatever. If you’ve got a problem, we’re here to take care of you. Again, 303-477-5600. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. And getting lots of answers, by the way, on the question of the day. One came in, a 63 Corvette Stingray split window, which those cars, if done correctly, I mean restored correctly, the right car in the first place, all the right features and so on, yeah, they’re bringing a lot of money. Now, they’ve got to get to the point where you’ve done that. In some cases, people think that their regular stock car is worth a boatload of money, and they’re worth good money, don’t get me wrong, but there’s one at Barrett-Jackson that sold for over a million dollars. Keep in mind, that car was a complete ground-up restoration. I’ll bet you probably they spent… Not buying the car, but just the labor alone and everything to get the car to where it was. Probably spent $300,000, $350,000, I’ll bet, to get that car to where it was. And I may be low on that. It might have even been higher. Now, did they make money at $1,000,001? Well, of course they did when it was all said and done. But, again, that’s a one-off situation. And I looked at the car up close, and it was absolutely flawless. I mean, the car wasn’t that good when it was built.
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And then, you know, the fiberglass part of it. It’s the talent that, you know, you have to work on. Correct. Correct. There’s talented people out there. Correct. And they deserve to be paid for it.
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And that kind of leads into another subject, which I didn’t cover, you know, talking about Barrett-Jackson. And I did a little bit briefly. But you have to be careful when you look at prices at the auction. And this is not a knock at Barrett-Jackson. Barrett-Jackson does what Barrett-Jackson does. Mecham does what Mecham does. Right. These auctions do what they’re supposed to do, which is take somebody’s car and get as much money out as they possibly can for that particular seller while still giving the buyer everything the buyer is wanting and asking for. So, again, at the end of the day, at those auctions, the car is bringing whatever a buyer is willing to spend. Does that mean that every car like that is going to bring that kind of money? No, it does not. Those are typically one-off situations. Does it kind of set a price on that particular type of vehicle, and does it set a stage for future car sales and values of? It can, although back to our original discussion in the question of the day, tell us the car you first fell in love with, and Back to the post that I read talking about, you know, the difference in cars and values of and how people see each car and so on. Remember that, you know, at these auctions, you’re in some cases you’ve got two people bidding against each other, maybe even three or four people bidding against each other. And sometimes things get out of hand more so because one guy is not going to get out done. It’s not necessarily what the value of the car is. It then does become sort of an ego thing that, yeah, you can’t out-purchase me. I’m going to own this car no matter what. I don’t care if I’m paying an exorbitant amount. I’ve got the money, and I’m going to own it no matter what just because I want to own it. Now, does that mean that every other car like that is going to bring that kind of money? Well, of course not. No. And, again, when it gets into those types of vehicles like that 63 split window that was an original car, A car with everything on it, you know, perfect matching, you name it, you know, fuel injection, all of it. I mean, very, very rare car. It had the big tank, which even makes it more rare. Again, it’s a car that I think, if I remember, I’d have to go back and look. And some of you that know this better than I could probably even tell me on the text. I think it’s like one of 50 or something that were ever built originally. So not a high production car. And yeah, in that particular situation, that car brought that kind of money. Does it mean every other 63 split window is going to bring that kind of money? Of course not. No. I mean, it would be nice if they did, but no, they’re not going to bring that. And again, people forget that if the car needs to be restored in today’s world with… Labor rates and costs and things where they’re at today and even the procurement of the parts that that car might need and getting all the way back to originality and so on. I mean, you’re talking hundreds of thousands of dollars of what you could spend to get that car to that level. And in some cases, and this is not an exaggeration. Some of the restorations that get done, they’re not making any money. They may very well on some cars lose money depending upon the car that they started with because they could end up with far more money in the car than what they’re now selling it for. So just point being. When you look at auctions and the car prices and so on, does that set the stage for all the other cars like it? It kind of does, but kind of doesn’t. And again, what I mean by that is, you know, could some of those other cars of that era be worth that kind of money if it’s the exact same car, potentially? But here’s the reality. They never are. These are one-off automobiles that go through these auctions that bring that kind of money. And in some cases, because somebody there loved that car enough to spend that kind of money on it. And does that mean that every other car like it is going to bring that kind of money? No, they’re just not going to.
SPEAKER 03 :
That shows it’s more the exception than the rule in general.
SPEAKER 14 :
In general.
SPEAKER 03 :
Especially higher end.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s right. Especially when you look at some of the one-off type automobiles that end up going through the auction. So, you know, again, bottom line is, no, they’re not all going to bring that kind of money when it’s all said Is it still the original kind of stuff, you know, numbers matching?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, in a lot of cases, yes. Is the stuff that still brings the dollars?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes. In some cases, yes, that would be the situation. So for all of you listening in, I did a topic on this on the extra mile, which today I’m going to talk about additives. So if the extra mile today is all about additives, fuel, oil, and so on, you be sure to listen in. We talk about all the different facets of. I had a question on that a couple of weeks ago if I would do that particular topic today. I did. And again, extra mile, just as a quick plug, if there’s a topic you’d like to see me get more involved in where I can take literally a straight hour, no interruptions, and just talk about a particular topic, let me know what that topic is. If it’s something that I know off the top of my head, we’ll roll and do it. If I have to do a little research, I can as well. Most cases, I know it off the top of my head because I’ve done it long enough to kind of know what the ins and outs are. Additives for me was easy. And again, if there’s a Let me know. But, yeah, just be careful. When you’ve got an older car and maybe something that you’re even looking at inheriting or you as a family might own a car or a car has gotten passed down, in some cases, yes, it’s worth really good money. And you can, again, Burke Payne, BP Appraisals, he can tell you what a car is worth even on a pass down like that, and you should check with him before you do anything else anyways. But outside of that, just remember that just because a – In this case, 63 Corvette ran through the auction and brought a million dollars doesn’t mean your 63 Corvette is worth the same. It may be worth a fraction of that million dollars. In fact, in some cases, it could be less than 10% depending upon the car and how it’s set up and its originality and what it came with and, and, and we go. Because there’s lots of things in that world that change depending upon the car itself. And this is another thing, too, people forget, and I did talk about this on the Extra Mile as well. The history of a car means a lot. Where did it come from? Who’s owned it? Did somebody famous own it? You know, where did the car come from? I mean, there’s lots. It’s like art. In this particular post that I read to you guys earlier at the top of the hour, that’s where the art comes. side of things in the car world comes into play. Again, it’s a lot like an art piece. Who owned the car? Where has it been? Where did it spend its life? How many owners did it have? A lot of that comes into play as to how the value of that car is. And again, those are things that Burke Payne at BP Appraisals can look at as well and tell you exactly whether that value is actually there or not. And I’ll put a plug in for Burke. If there’s something you’re looking to sell, especially more of a one-off type car, an exotic, a street rod, a classic, something along those lines, by all means, give Burke a call. He’ll tell you exactly what that car is worth. He can do some studying for you and let you know. And then also with Burke, don’t forget when it comes to diminished value or total loss, he can help you with that and give you some values you can go to the insurance company with and fight for you financially. He becomes your advocate, your representative, if you would. And Burke’s a great guy. So if you ever need anything along those lines, please give Burke a call. He’s on our website, drive-radio.com. Steve, you’re back. Go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good morning, Sir John. Good morning. I have a question about automobiles. My high school dream car was, like your previous listener, a 65 Mustang Fastback 2 Plus 2. And it was a four-in-a-floor. It had the power steering, which I thought was standard. It’s not. Anyway, I worked my tail off, you know, cutting lawns, shoveling snow. Got the car, not without a lot of blowback from my dad because he was convinced my grades would drop and every high school girl in the neighborhood would be pregnant and dropping a grade. Anyway, second car was the 66 Mustang Convertible. Loved that car. Never should have gotten rid of that. And then cars I missed, in Salt Lake, there is this 86 Ferrari 308 GTSR. And the guy’s name was the same as mine. So I stopped in, had some time, introduced myself, and I said, hi, I’m blank. He says, ah, so am I. So I said, what’s the deal on the car? He said, well, it’s 26 grand. It was used on a Magnum TV series, very low mileage, like 18,000 miles. And it’s only 27 grand. I said, well, I didn’t have 27 grand. But as you well know, that car now is probably more like four or 500. Wow. And then a good buddy of mine, And a former flight student, I taught him for his advanced ATP. He had a 63, flit window Corvette, hypo engine, side pipes, three-quarter cam, you know, nice, good rumble at idle, but where would that thing go? Snap your neck and every gear. And he sold that thing without even telling me. Wow. Because that would have been a keeper. Yeah, that would have been a keeper. I don’t know what that’s worth now. I don’t know what it is now. But, you know, with the hypo engine and the three-quarter cam and the side pipes, that’s worth some bucks. Mm-hmm. Hey, last question, because you always help clarify my thinking, and this goes back to the issue on the X3 power locking. The deal is, what we’re at now is, after Christian Motors messed it up, wouldn’t do anything to fix it, we are down to trying to figure out a way to get, like, a three-foot tall runaway from the circus that can jump over the center console that knows how to use a screwdriver. to go through the protocol of six screws, remove the glove box, and then drop down the module, function check that, and go. So does that make sense to you? Somewhat, yeah. The deal is the T-POP still communicates. You can see that because the lights went. But ever since Christian Brothers, which should be Muslim Brothers, so they’re aligned, Since they screwed that thing up, the main thing they forgot that I could tell, and I think we’ve talked about this earlier, there’s only a couple things that are hot-wired directly to the battery bus, and that would be locks and courtesy. And step one in the manual, like it is for almost everything BMW, is disconnect the braking battery. Right. They didn’t do that. And as you know, when you’re replacing a window regulator, it’s real easy to get a wrench or whatever. It is. And short out the power lock mechanism right above it. So I’m not a happy guy. We’ll get through it. But I just am trying to get through it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Best of luck to you, Steve. All right, thank you. All right, man, appreciate you very much. And I did look up, too, that car that went through Barrett-Jackson, because I want to make sure it wasn’t 50. It was 63, one of 63. And keep in mind, that was a Z06 Corvette 63 split window. So, again, very special car. So that’s where you’ve got to look at cars going through the auction. What are some of the things that were on the car? What makes it so special? You know, one of 63, again, very rare car when it’s all said and done. And, yeah, that’s why it brought me. And how many are left?
SPEAKER 03 :
Of the 63.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, of the 63, how many are left? I’ll try to look that up during the break and tell you, but I’ll bet you probably half. Maybe I’m wrong in that, but I’ll double-check.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s a long time ago.
SPEAKER 14 :
Mark, actually, in Wiggins said, 79 GMC K1500 short bed, 4-speed, baby blue. Yeah, and that truck, by the way, is worth pretty good money today. That’s an answer to the question of the day, so thank you for that. All right, we’ll be back here in a moment. Don’t go anywhere. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, we are back. And on that 1963 Corvette Z06, it’s an NO3 tanker split window. Out of all the cars produced, this is where I got the 50 from, only 50 are left that are known to be in existence today out of all of those that were made. So, again, that’s what makes that car so rare and why it brought the kind of money that it brought at Barrett-Jackson. So, Jeff, you’re up next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hey, good morning again, guys. Quick question on… On collector pickups, what did Bear Jackson have on those? Is there any market on that? Oh, yes.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, it depends on the year. That’s another one of those where, now, there were some even, you know, 50-series trucks that brought really good money. But, I mean, these are trucks, Jeff, that are, I mean, again, they’re like the Corvette. They’re absolutely flawless. I mean, now you’re talking about buying an art project, not a truck. Now, in that case, they brought really good money. But just regular, average trucks. trucks the 70 you know 69 and up gmc chevys even some fords of that era doing pretty well international scouts are doing very well the broncos of course are doing very well and the key about the trucks that’s cool that i think is cool is there’s no numbers matching nonsense going on i mean it really comes down to what do you like about the truck does it have the right powertrain that you like was it done well does it work properly what transmission’s in it and so on. I mean, it’s more that than it is, you know, is it some numbers matching original thing? Now, those are still bringing money as well if they’re all original, but there’s not many of those trucks that are really original left. And the ones that are, there are some trucks that are going through auctions that literally have just a few hundred miles. Somebody basically stuck them in a barn on jack stands and let the thing collect dust over all these years. And yeah, they’re bringing decent money too. I mean, I’m talking, Jeff, even some of the 70s models or 80s models even are bringing that kind of money.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, because the 50 Chevys, the early 50 Chevys and vehicles like that really appealed to me, and I just didn’t know how well they were doing. I really kicked myself over when my grandfather died, never getting his 52 pickup out of the estate because I could have picked it up for a song and really would have liked to have had that.
SPEAKER 03 :
All that rounded fenders. It is cool. That’s my appealing to it. I don’t know if I like all the newer stuff, but the 50s would be my idea, too. I love those.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, in terms of cars, any muscle car out of the late 60s, I think, is something that I don’t really have a favorite in there. I mean, you know, the 442, the GTO, a lot of the Dodge and Chrysler products, you know, their Roadrunners, they’re all good. I look at them, and I sit in on the car shows here, and I just go, wait a minute, what am I going to do with this?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, Steve brought up a great point during the break, too, that we didn’t say on air that we need to repeat. Keep in mind, too, for a lot of you listening, these builds that some of these people do where I talk about some of these cars being flawless. I mean, these are not cars that are typically built in even a year’s time, Jeff. In some of these cases— And I’m not exaggerating. Some of these cars may have taken a decade, minimum probably three to five years to get them to the point of where they’re going across the auction block. For a lot of people listening, these are not something you build in three or four months and then go take it to the auction and off you go. It is a work of art, literally, Jeff, at the end of the day. And that Corvette I was mentioning that went through that brought over a million bucks. and i’m not exaggerating folks when i say this absolutely flawless i mean it’s silver metallic and i don’t think there’s even a a you know silver has a lot of metal flake in it you know a lot of metallic in it jeff i don’t think there is a piece of metal flake even out of place on the car it was that good wow yeah i have a neighbor who’s doing the same thing with the uh chevelle ss super sport i think um red and uh
SPEAKER 10 :
I don’t even want to touch the door handle to open it up without having gloves on it. Right. He’s putting that level of effort into it.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s right. And that’s why a lot of these cars that are built for you guys that are listening and maybe that don’t understand that end of things or have never been around it. Yeah, Jeff, what you’re saying is exactly. I mean, that particular car probably, I mean, maybe somebody’s touching it with their bare hands, but probably not.
SPEAKER 10 :
With white gloves. I don’t want to be the guy responsible for some minor, minor defect. Something that I’ve thought about and I’ve not heard you talk about is – and this would be for an older truck – In terms of the opposite of a rat rod, and that’s to bring them up to kind of modern specs on the old bodies, but doing it with an electric train, EV. I’ve seen retros out there for trucks and different things, but is there much of a market for those?
SPEAKER 14 :
No. No. There’s been some guys that have tried that and they’re for a little bit even at SEMA. SEMA was even trying to push the EV conversion thing over. And the biggest thing that I see the guys run into obstacle-wise, Jeff, on those types of builds is those vehicles were never made to have any kind of a battery capacity. pack, you know, any kind of storage. And keep in mind, all EVs are made around the battery where you take an older car and try to retrofit it. Now you’re trying to retrofit batteries into an area that, frankly, they were never intended. And they can do it, but, you know, range is limited. You really, it’s not… It’s more of a showpiece. You’re not driving the car. It may end up with a 50-mile, and I’m not exaggerating, 50-mile length of drive time if you’re lucky. And, again, it becomes more of a novelty than anything else. They’re trailered everywhere. I doubt very seriously if any of those are ever driven that were even built. So, no, it’s not a big thing right now at all.
SPEAKER 03 :
There was a company out of California that did a lot of the bugs. Yep. And that was kind of cute. Yep, they were for a while, and it ended. Yeah. It just didn’t last. It was a 50-hundred-mile deal.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and the fact that the gas tank goes behind the front seat, I mean, do you really want to put a battery pack back there? Correct. I don’t know if you’d have to raise the bed or how they would work that. Correct. I’m just curious because I like the truck and the lines, but comfort-wise, it just – And there was an old Studebaker that I saw once and I loved, and I searched and searched and tried to find one.
SPEAKER 06 :
Stupid Baker.
SPEAKER 10 :
I finally did an old Studebaker pickup.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 10 :
And I found it, and it was in the guy’s garage, and I got into it, and my elbows were up against the steering wheel with the seat all the way back, and it was like, crap.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s not working.
SPEAKER 10 :
I don’t fit in this truck. Yeah, so.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 10 :
Same thing kind of happened on a Crossfire, Chrysler Crossfire. Oh, yeah, sure. Absolutely. I went and I was looking at those and like, oh, that cool car is basically a Mercedes with a Chrysler label on it. But I got into it and my head touched the roof and it’s like, no. That’s a no-go. Not going to fit. That’s right. It’s important to try a car on. Absolutely. I’ve done that many, many times. Absolutely. It’s important.
SPEAKER 14 :
Jeff, appreciate you, man. I’m going to get one more call squeezed in here before the top of the hour. Okay, Paul, you are next. Go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hey, John, good morning. I got a couple of love lives for you. Like you, I grew up in my dad’s shop, and people always couldn’t afford the repairs or selling something and get first shot at it. That was a little bit casual in my love life there, and it probably wasn’t just confined to cars. But the first one I had was a 67, I believe, Delmont 88. Okay. Ugly olive green GM color, drum brakes, four-door, like 30,000 miles on it. I bought it about 1979 or 80. Okay. But it had a 360-horse 425 in it. Oh, wow. Ten and three quarter to one pistons. You had to run, and the manual said 95 octane ethyl. Yep. But I embarrassed more than one kid in high school with that car.
SPEAKER 14 :
I’m sure.
SPEAKER 09 :
It was quite a sleeper, and it had single pipe exhaust. I couldn’t believe it. 360 horse. Very cool.
SPEAKER 14 :
At least in the book.
SPEAKER 09 :
Very cool. At least in the book. What’s your second one real quick?
SPEAKER 14 :
I got 30 seconds, Paul. Second one. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
The second one is unusual. It was a Lancia Beta.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
Very cool. They pulled more Gs than a Corvette in those days. A little two-liter dual overhead cam, four-cylinder, just a blast to drive.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. Good stuff, Paul. I appreciate it very much. We’re going to take our top-of-the-hour break. We’ll be back. Two more hours coming your way. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 11 :
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