Join John Rush on Drive Radio as he unravels the complexities behind automotive maintenance and repair. When Mark from Eaton calls in about his Buick Lucerne’s persistent check engine light, the conversation steers into a comprehensive guide on error codes, part replacements, and the vagaries of vintage vehicles. Ken and Pat join John to discuss how modern diagnostics tools are indispensable, yet sometimes a hands-on expert is irreplaceable in resolving vehicle nuisances. As we navigate through this mechanical puzzle, the episode also touches on broader themes, such as technological advancements in engine design. From a historical perspective, the episode
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All right, welcome. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. I’m your host, John Rush, and I’ve got a couple of guests that will be joining me here in a moment. Traffic was bad today for some odd reason. Patch Knight’s joining me from Alltech Automotive up in… the north end of the state, I should say, Fort Collins area. So he’ll be here shortly. So, Pat, if you’re driving, be safe and take your time. Not a problem at all. Ken Rackley should be walking in here any moment from Toontech Automotive down here in the Aurora area. If you’ve got any questions for us, by all means, please call 303-477-4777. 5 6 0 0 3 0 3 4 7 7 5 6 0 0. A lot of you are out and about, by the way, because the text line has gone nuts this morning, which is fine. That’s what we enjoy. So John and Cheyenne, if you are listening as a side note, we have had numerous people. saying that John from Cheyenne should do a meetup at Menards in Cheyenne. In fact, there were several people that just missed seeing you there as you were, because you said earlier on in Fix It Radio that you were leaving Menards, and some were arriving as I think you were leaving, and they are recommending that John from Cheyenne actually do a meetup a meetup at Menards in Cheyenne. So, and maybe we should just do like a listener gathering or something along those lines at some point. And that’s something we could definitely work on. So anyways, that’s, that’s a, that’s a great idea. Thank you guys for, for sharing that and for asking for that. And John, I’m sure that, uh, You’re flattered by that, and they all want to meet you as well. So there you go. If you want to do a meetup and let us put it out there, we can definitely do that for you. So, again, our number here, 303-477-5600. Here to answer any questions that you’ve got. Question of the day. Fastest speeding ticket ever. you’ve ever received? We’ve done this one, but it’s been a long, long time ago that I did this question. So what is the fastest speeding ticket that you’ve ever received? And some of you may or may not want to admit that, but nobody knows who you are when you call in for the most part anyway. So you can admit that. And again, it’s a ticket. You’ve already done it. You did your time, paid your fine, whatever. But what is the fastest speeding ticket? In May of 2003, The fastest known speeding ticket in U.S. history was handed out with a Swedish sports car allegedly going 242 miles an hour in a 75 mile an hour zone. And fittingly, it happened in Texas because everything is bigger and I guess faster there. So there is your question of the day. What’s the fastest speeding ticket you’ve ever gotten? Mark and Eaton, go ahead.
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Hey, good morning. How’s it going? Good, Mark. I got a quick question for you on a Buick Lucerne. I bought a used Buick Lucerne here probably a year and a half ago, and it’s got a 3.8 V6 in it. It’s really a decent little car. Yep. The emissions light keeps coming on. I keep getting a sensor telling me, number one, to tighten the gas cap.
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Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
So then it goes on to replace the – vapor canister, the solenoid. I’ve done both, and I’m still getting that light coming up. Would that be the canister itself being plugged up?
SPEAKER 04 :
Could be. Depends on how long the solenoid, depending upon how long that was bad in relation to, as you know, what that cylinder or what that valve does is allows the canister to retrieve those fuel gases, the venting that’s happening in the gas tank itself when you’re filling up, when it’s just sitting and so on. And depending upon how that was working, it could have saturated the charcoal canister.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. Is there a chance that the sensor is bad?
SPEAKER 04 :
Doubtful. Doubtful. And I didn’t ask either, and I don’t think you said. What year is this, Lucerne, Mike?
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s only got $100,000 on it. It’s really a clean little car.
SPEAKER 04 :
And what year again?
SPEAKER 1 :
2006.
SPEAKER 04 :
2006. Okay. So 2006. And at this point… And, Ken, this is probably more up your alley on a 2006, since it’s a GM car. So 3.8-liter engine, the check engine light’s on, and it’s originally a gas cap and then also a charcoal canister, the solenoid four. But that light’s still coming on. Do you know specifically, Mark, what code it’s sitting right now by chance?
SPEAKER 08 :
No. I don’t, right off the top of my head, I think it’s a 4022. Is that sound right?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. 422, possibly. Is it purge sensed when not commanded, or is it large leak?
SPEAKER 08 :
That I can’t tell you. I couldn’t tell you that. Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
Because that would give us an indicator of what also is going on, Mark. I mean, the reason why we’re asking is I wouldn’t just run out and put a charcoal canister on it before knowing some more on what the code actually says.
SPEAKER 11 :
If it was some other vehicle, some vehicles’ canisters fail all the time. But the GM canisters, you know, if it’s dirt road, there’s just so many different aspects. And the canisters typically don’t fail on the GMs.
SPEAKER 04 :
They’re pretty robust.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, the reason I’m asking is it came up about a year ago, and I replaced that purge valve.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
And it worked fine for a year. Okay. Because right after I bought it, in fact, what had happened is the original owner had patched that purge valve up with electrical tape.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. I mean, we’re trying to get by. Sure, I hear you. So I went and put a purge valve on it, and then it worked fine for about a year. And then all of a sudden I get the gas cap sensor. You know, that’s what shows up on the dashboard. Well, it’s good and tight. That’s not a problem.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right, no cracks in the seals or anything like that on the gas cap?
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I placed it.
SPEAKER 11 :
I just went ahead and replaced it. With an OEM or with an aftermarket? It is an aftermarket. Okay. We’ve seen some issues with the aftermarkets, but, you know, you can only do what you can do. So, yeah.
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You might want to test it, and you can do that, Mark. You can have the cap tested to make sure it, in fact, is good.
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Right. And you can kind of do that yourself, too. Take a little Vaseline or something, put around the seal, put it on, you know, tighten it, make sure it made a good contact, make sure it’d make a good seal around there.
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Okay. Yeah. Do that. Then it came up here about a year ago, or just about a couple of weeks ago, it came up again. And so I thought, well, okay, the purge valve was bad, and I don’t know why. So I went down to Auto Shop, and they replaced it. Of course, it’s, you know, under warranty. Put it on. I got the code to clear. I went ahead and did what you’re not supposed to do to disconnect the battery. Right. So then it cleared, and it ran like that for about a week, and now it’s back. And I’m starting to wonder if there’s other issue there someplace that I’m not seeing.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, more than likely. I mean, you’ve got a vent valve. You’ve got, you know, the tubing and stuff like that, too. Has it been on a lot of dirt roads or anything like that over its life? Do you know?
SPEAKER 08 :
I can’t tell you for sure. The car was purchased in Wyoming originally by an older couple.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
And then I ended up buying it from somebody down here about a year ago. And it’s… The only thing about this car that I’ve noticed, and it’s really one of those cars that, you know, you sit there and look at it and think, wow, how can you find one that clean, that old? It’s just got a little bit of hail damage on it. Other than that, good for you. Yeah. Well, I’m tickled with it. It’s done really well other than this little issue here.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Great cars, yeah. I mean, yeah, and this issue would, yeah, we really need to know the code and see everything along those lines because… Okay, if the code says it’s the purge valve, because that’s what the original, you know, every time you go down there, they can read it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. And they tell it to replace the purge valve. Well, you know, if I just replaced it again… and it’s not you know i still got the problem there’s something else going on right exactly my question then would be if it’s not the canister which it may or may not be i don’t i don’t i don’t have any idea um what what code do i need to keep an eye out for i guess put it like that if i can go get the code read if will that help me figure out exactly what i got to do
SPEAKER 04 :
Not necessarily. This is one of those, Mark, where having an actual scan tool on it where you can read the commands and what’s going on and how is it reacting to some of those things, how quickly is it reacting to those things, and so on. That’s where it becomes as important as the code itself. In other words, what’s turning it on and why.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. And I mean, there’s probably at least 10 EVAP codes. So large leak, small leak, purge detected, you know, just all kinds of different things that can turn that on. And there’s a lot of lines, plastic lines in that system that can have issues.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Mark, and it still gets used today. A lot of times shops will have to use their smoke, you know, their leak detector. It’s a smoke machine is what we call it. And it literally is putting smoke down the lines to try to determine where there might be a small leak. And in some cases, depending upon the make and model of car, and what I mean by that is, you know, Chryslers historically are awful. For this particular end of things, you happen to have a car that typically can be fixed relatively easily, but you get some makes and models of cars, Mark, and, I mean, it is a real bear trying to fix what’s going on.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, you get one issue fixed is all it saw, so you get that fixed, and then another one pops up.
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It’s like a garden hose that’s leaking.
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Right. Yep. Fix the bigger leak, and the smaller one starts showing up. That’s right. Yeah, exactly.
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Okay. Well, maybe the thing to do is see if I can’t get into a shop here and have somebody read it on a scanner.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, that’s what I would do next. I think at this point, given what you’ve already done and where you’re at with it, yeah, I would do that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, the code gives us a direction on where to actually look or what our test procedures are.
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Especially in 06. I will say, Mark, that you have a 2016 or even a 2024 or 5. There’s a big difference in those 20 years in what we’re actually able to retrieve and what the computer is telling us in 06. Not that it was primitive. It was pretty decent, but not what it is 20 years later. Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Exactly. Well, the reason I bought this particular car is because it had that 380.
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A good engine. One of the best they ever built.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I think it is. And I was specifically looking for that engine when I found it.
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And that was their original V6. They just kept making better and better and better and better as they went along. Counterbalance. By the time they got there, it was dialed in, Mark.
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Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
And just a side note, really quick for everybody listening. A lot of that, and most people don’t know this, but a lot of that technology that’s in that car was from all of their years, Buick being at Indianapolis at the 500, which we just watched last weekend. A lot of that technology that they were using in the racing end of things made its way into that particular platform. And in my opinion, that’s why that engine just kept getting better and better and better. Sure.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, let me ask you this. Why did Buick drop it? They dropped it in 2009. Why did they drop that engine?
SPEAKER 04 :
I think, personally, emissions and things along those lines is the biggest reason. Going to direct injection and other things along those lines is why.
SPEAKER 11 :
Cylinder, cast iron cylinder heads, flow, everything like that.
SPEAKER 04 :
All sorts of reasons. You can make it lighter. You can get better fuel economy. Overhead cam, variable valve timing. That’s right.
SPEAKER 11 :
All kinds of stuff. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 04 :
But as far as robustness goes and durability, what you’ve got is as good as anything.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. I mean, horsepower probably gained 100 horsepower going with the 3.6 liter. Correct. Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
I’m just curious. You know, you sit there and watch this stuff. That’s the other thing I’m curious about. Maybe you can tell me this. Why did they drop all the manual transmissions in pickup?
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Yeah. Marketability, people buying, literally. I mean, that’s what it boils down to, Mark, as even somebody that’s kind of in that world on the fleet end of things and so on. You talk even like me having a fleet. Would I put an average driver in a manual transmission truck? Not a chance. Military, too. Yeah, between all of us as fleet owners and so on, we’re not buying manual transmissions, Mark.
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There’s probably only 1% or 2% of the population that would look for something like that.
SPEAKER 04 :
The majority of people can’t even drive them now.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right, exactly. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, well, okay. I mean, I guess that’s probably a good… So when you’re looking at your customer base and only a fraction of is building, and remember, as a manufacturer, they’ve got to do all the same testing, safety, all of that for every lineup, you know, every model they’ve got, automatic, manual, different engine configurations, et cetera. So to just add a manual transmission in for a 1% to 2% buyer, it’s just not cost-effective at that point.
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Right. I see. Okay, I’m just curious, because I… I’ve got an older, I’ve got a 2004 Dodge Ram pickup, three-quarter ton with a diesel and a manual transmission in it. And that truck just, it goes and goes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. And that truck’s, you know, going up in value, not down. That’s a truck that you hang on to because it’s not losing any value.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, it’s worth more now than I paid for it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 05 :
I have one of the same, yes. Very similar. I’m pretty sure you promised your wife that when you bought it, didn’t you?
SPEAKER 08 :
I actually told her, I said, look, this will probably be the last pickup I ever buy when I bought it. I bought it new. I’ve had it 21 years, and it just goes and goes.
SPEAKER 04 :
And one of the few trucks that you could get out of it what you paid new.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no doubt. Okay.
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Good job. Great questions, Mark. Appreciate you very much. All right, Rich, hang tight. I know you’ve got a couple of questions. We’ll come right back. As you can tell, Pat and Ken are with me now, so we’ll be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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Yes. I’ve bought a new 2024 Grand Highlander, and I’m finding it’s not quite so grand. It makes a real loud sonic boom every time you go over it. uh, seem in the road in town, you know, and then on the highway, the noise road, uh, road noise is really quite significant, uh, where it’s loud enough that it has a GBL, uh, uh, stereo, but, uh, it doesn’t overcome the sound of the road. Uh, is it, do you know of anybody are, uh, that does the soundproofing on a car that can, uh, strip everything out and, uh, and soundproof, put the material in, understand that that might be a solution.
SPEAKER 04 :
About the only person that I would know that might even be willing to do that just because they, you know, when they’re detailing cars, they’ll take the interior out and do different things. That would be Roy at ProTech Auto Shield. And typically what they do is more cosmetic, although they’ve got the ability to do that. And that would be the first call that I would make, Rich, to see if that’s something that they would be interested in doing. There are products made that would help with some sound deadening and so on. So, yes, there are things that they could do to help you with that. And… Unfortunately, and this is one of my complaints on some new cars, and I drive a lot of new cars that you guys hear me talk about and so on, and that’s one of the first things I look at and I’ll even talk about when I do a review is, this car was quiet, this car was not. And I’ll tell you straight up, it has nothing to do with the type of car, the price of the car. Is it a German car, Japanese car, American car? I mean, it is all over the map. Some cars, they do a very good job of insulating and making it very quiet inside, and other cars are not. And in the car you bought, though, Rich, being a Grand Highlander, there’s no excuse for that car to be noisy.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. Right, exactly.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, because that’s the topic. Yeah, it’s a $57,000 car.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, there’s no excuse for that car to be noisy at all. Right, exactly.
SPEAKER 20 :
I read all the reviews on it, like car and drivable and all this sort of stuff when I was looking at it. And they never mentioned that.
SPEAKER 04 :
And thank you for saying that, Rich, because, no, they don’t. And it’s one of the things that I try to highlight in every review I do because, to me, that’s a very important thing. And yet a lot of these reviewers, I guess they just turn the radio up, Rich. I don’t know because, to me, that road noise can become very, very obnoxious.
SPEAKER 20 :
Very.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, I started reading on the Internet, and there’s even this one fellow that’s trying to work up a class action lawsuit against Toyota on this very subject. I don’t think he’ll probably get off the ground with it, but you never can tell. But structurally, I don’t know what they would even do. To make it different, you know, to make it right on that particular car.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I’m glad you just said that, Rich, because one thing I would do before even calling, you know, Roy at ProTech would be this is a complaint that you need to go back to the dealership with. And frankly, this is something that Toyota needs to be stepping in. and trying their best to take care of, because the reality is, in my opinion, these cars shouldn’t be that noisy. That car shouldn’t be that noisy. And one other thing that they could be looking at as a part of this is, keep in mind, tires themselves can have a lot to do with how road noise is transferred, let me say it that way, back up into the vehicle itself.
SPEAKER 11 :
And two, it gets louder as the tires wear. So, yeah. So it, you know, maybe, maybe you don’t notice it right up front, but, uh, as the tires get a few miles on them, it starts making more noise. So you start noticing it more too, or maybe it’s been that way since you bought it too. So hard to say.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah. Yeah. It has been since we bought it. And, uh, and in town where you’re even going slow, I mean, you’d be going 20 miles an hour, go, uh, uh, a seam in the road and you have this sonic, you know, annoying, uh, uh, boom in the car. And, uh, So I’ve read where maybe the Lexus might be a little quieter. They are. They are. And I might end up trading the thing. It’s actually louder. than my F-150. Oh, yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, my. And here’s why. This is a great question, by the way. And this is something that a lot of folks don’t recognize or realize. Anytime, and your F-150 is this, anytime you do body on frame, which any of the trucks are, Toyota 4Runners, for example, are, some of the higher-end Lexus models like the GXs are, It just depends on what model you buy. But any time you get a body-on-frame vehicle, it is naturally going to be less noisy than any of the unibody cars that are out there, the Highlander being a unibody car. Most are unibodies. In fact, a lot of the— Even midsize SUVs are unibody. You don’t get body-on-frame until you get to, like I say, either a 4Runner or like a Lincoln Navigator, Ford Expedition, Tahoe, Suburbans, things like that. That half-ton chassis area. That’s right. You get into that body-on-frame construction, and they automatically, Rich, get, I’m not joking, half as quiet. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, they do because there are bushings that separate the body from the frame that isolate some of that noise. Body mount isolation. Yep.
SPEAKER 20 :
Uh-huh. Okay, and then I’ve got one other question. Is on my F1, the last one had oil change. They said that the seal, the transmission seal, I guess that’s probably where it’s connected to the engine, is damp. It’s not dripping or anything like that. Is that something that needs to be… Have attention or just watch for it?
SPEAKER 11 :
No, just watch it.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah. Just watch it, yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Sometimes they’ll seep. For a long time. Yeah, sometimes seals will just seep a little bit, and it’s not that big of a deal until it actually starts dripping.
SPEAKER 04 :
In the old days? Uh-huh. They not only seeped, they dripped. So in today’s world, Rich, we’ll get a little seepage here and there and count your blessings. Rolls-Royce classified it as controlled seepage. When I was a kid, you get into the industry, Rich, back in the 70s, if you had a car that had zero leaks, you were doing really good. Right, right.
SPEAKER 11 :
You might be able to seal it up for a couple weeks.
SPEAKER 04 :
Every car had some sort of a drip back then. Exactly.
SPEAKER 20 :
I know, I used to use STP in every oil change.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thinking that up. It’s not going to pour out.
SPEAKER 20 :
I had to bring things up enough where they wouldn’t leak, you know. That’s right. Exactly. Funny. Okay, then. Well, thank you very much for your time.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, great questions, Rich, by the way. I appreciate that. Somebody also asked, would I talk about… some of the problems that Toyota has had. And yes, when it comes to especially some of their truck end of things, Tacomas especially, yes, they have had some very serious issues. Yes, GM has got some serious issues with their 6.2s as well that they’re working through. Point being, yeah, all manufacturers have problems. Somebody said something to the effect of, you know, that I’m a Toyota lover. I’m not. I’ll just be straight up on it. There’s not a brand I particularly love. Love’s a strong word. There are certain cars that I really like over others, make and model of cars. But when it comes to a particular brand, I am not anymore. I grew up in a GM dealership, but I am not brand-specific per se. I do think that some manufacturers do a little bit better job of – not only maybe building a little better vehicle, but taking care of their customers better, and even the GM side of the fence right now. You can complain about some of the 6.2 stuff, but GM will get through that. They’ll take care of it. They’ve made plenty of money. Nobody’s going to be left out in the cold. It’s just a matter of them figuring out how they’re going to do that and handle things at the end of the day. Keep in mind, GM, just to show you how well ICE engines are going to be in the future, how long they’re going to be around. They just invested $888 million into a brand-new six-generation plant for the V8 engine, meaning that they’re not going anywhere anytime soon. GM is committed to building trucks and V8 engines and things like that. So they’re going to be doing that for quite some time. But, yeah, on the Toyota side of the fence, does Toyota have problems? Yes, just like everybody else out there does. There’s a lot of people that are Toyota lovers and thinks they hung the moon. And do they build a quality product? Yeah, they do. Do they also have problems? Yes, and so does everybody else.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. You figure 100,000 components all in one unit.
SPEAKER 04 :
You guys can do this as well. I sign up, and because of what I do here, I get an email list every Monday morning from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration that shows you every recall. that has been issued that previous week. And I will tell you that I scan through that every Monday morning. And I do that for A, to see is there anything that I really need to talk about on air that’s worthwhile? Sure. B, you know, who all’s on the list? Yeah. And folks, it’s everybody. Right. You can be a trailer manufacturer, RV manufacturer, Harley Davidson, BMW, Audi, Porsche, Rolls Royce. Motorcycle Polaris. I can go down the list. Nobody’s perfect.
SPEAKER 05 :
They all have a recall. Right. Well, we had talked about Toyotas a couple months ago, John, and I think one of the things that you mentioned at that time was that sometimes, well, Toyotas do have a good reputation for overall quality. They’re also sometimes underpowered, so they’ve got smaller engines, so they’re driven a little less heavily than some vehicles. That’s one factor, but then on an individual basis, it comes down to maintenance. How well is that car maintained? Very good point, Pat. Very good point.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, lines are open, 303-477-5600. Got a couple of answers that came in on the text line for the fastest speeding ticket you’ve ever received. I’ll mention those when we come back. That’s the question of the day. Don’t go anywhere. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Appreciate you guys listening. And I said I would give you one of the stories from the text line. 72 in a 45, 22 GMC 3500 after passing a tweaked out knucklehead in a POS van with expired plates. So instead of pulling over the crappy van with expired plates, we’re going to go after the… The speeder, which, yeah, I mean, 72 in a 45. Okay, yeah, I get that. But, you know, no offense, the guy with the van with expired plates. But here’s the real issue, and this is my complaint with police departments. And if you’re in one of them, sorry, I’m going to just say it as it is. Police departments aren’t getting any revenue. for the expired plates really at the end of the day. Because typically the way those work, just so all of you know, if you get a ticket for expired plates, other than maybe Aurora, which they’ve cracked down on that in Aurora, but in most cities, you get a ticket for expired plates, you can literally go into the DA, show them that you’ve now got current plates, and they’ll drop that ticket down to hardly anything. That’s how the system has been for eons. And every cop knows that. Sorry, but you guys all do. And my opinion is it’s partly why you don’t go after some of those as much as you do speeders because you guys collect more money on the revenue side on a ticket, speeding ticket, than you do on expired plates. Sure. Just my thought, if I’m wrong and you’re an officer listening and you want to correct me and tell me that I’m wrong, be my guest. But my thought is you guys as departments collect a lot more money on speeding tickets than you do on expired tags. Just my own personal opinion.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and again, in this case, it just doesn’t always pay to take justice into your own hands, right? Nope, that’s exactly right. Jerry and Aurora, go ahead.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I’m kind of looking maybe at buying a used Chevy Equinox or Transverse from around 2013 to 2018. Is there any inherent problems in them? I heard the Equinox used a little bit of oil, I think, in the…
SPEAKER 04 :
2.4. Some of those can be a problem. And what I will tell you is what I would tell anybody else looking at any other type of car that’s on a used car. It’s not the car. It’s who owned it prior. How well has that car been maintained? And I don’t care whether we’re talking about buying a Rolls Royce or we’re talking about buying a Kia. All of that would apply to any used car in between.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 04 :
It’s not the car. It’s who owned it. Okay. Yeah. And a lot of times you don’t know.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s part of the problem on a used car. Carfax can show you a certain amount. Carfax is not the Bible. Not everybody that even does things, even in our industry, for example, auto shops, not every auto shop reports to Carfax. Most of your quality ones do, but not everybody does, Jerry. And if a guy does his own maintenance, none of that typically gets reported back to Carfax. Yeah. All I can suggest to everybody is, A, anytime you look at a used car that you’re thinking about buying, in your case, Jerry, you’re an Aurora. You can go see Ken at Toontech. You have to get a pre-purchase inspection. This is so key to everybody listening. Post-purchase inspections, unless you’ve got some sort of a clause, which rare, occurs buying a used car. Unless you’ve got some sort of a clause that you can take that car back if you find X amount of problems with it. And in the state of Colorado, typically, by law, you’re buying an as-is used car. So it’s very important, especially in the state of Colorado, to get a pre-purchase inspection to find out exactly what is in that car. And And typically, Jerry, somebody like Ken can look underneath that vehicle and do a pre-purchase inspection. Even though you don’t know the previous owner, you can, as a technician, you can typically look at a car and see one that’s been very well maintained versus one that’s just been run to the ground.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. And I’m being very serious when I say that. As technicians, I mean, I’m not exaggerating, Jerry. I can typically, without even putting the car on the rack, I can walk up, look at the doors, open the doors, see how they shut. I can look underneath the hood. I can take a little bit of a peek underneath, and I can typically tell you within about five minutes how well this car has been maintained. And I’m not exaggerating. And these guys are nodding and agreeing with me.
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Even though they clean everything up, I mean, you know, it’s –
SPEAKER 04 :
There’s just certain things that are telltale signs as to how well was the car maintained.
SPEAKER 11 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 04 :
And really quick for all of you listening, here’s one I always look at. Look at the brake pedal, and are the edges of the pad worn off, or is it all nice and new and so on? Because what that tells me is if the edges are worn off, somebody’s been on those brakes sliding their foot on and off, on and off, on and off so much, it’s worn the side of the brake pedal off. Sure. That’s one little thing you can look at. Exactly. And I can keep going, but that’s just one thing, Jerry. Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I agree on that. I look at that. But what about a two-wheel drive versus all-wheel drive? Was there more inherent problems in Equinox, or do you know?
SPEAKER 04 :
Most of what you’re going to find in the Equinox is probably front-wheel drive anyways, just because that’s the majority of what was sold in this area. You may run across an all-wheel drive, but the same thing would apply. It really doesn’t matter front versus all. It all comes down to who owned the car prior and how well was it maintained.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. And all-wheel drive, we haven’t really seen a lot of all-wheel drive issues with those. So, I mean, they’re all electronic. So, you know, and then pretty much the only other thing they have other than the front-wheel drive would be the rear differential and driveshaft. So it would really be the only thing different. So, you know, in Colorado, I would prefer the all-wheel drive myself. But, you know, that’s just me.
SPEAKER 05 :
Just for comfort and convenience. Correct. You bet. I think with those maintenance items we were talking about, the single most important one is oil change frequency. Did they keep up on that? Is that engine going to be in good condition internally?
SPEAKER 11 :
How many miles in transmission fluid, too. Transmission fluid as well. Exactly.
SPEAKER 05 :
Because if you’re looking in the 2013 era, you’re 13 years old now, so you should have had transmission fluid serviced, possibly differential fluid serviced at least once. Engine oil maybe every 5,000 miles or less is what you’re looking for. And
SPEAKER 04 :
And the other thing, too, Jerry, and I think this applies to everybody else listening, miles on used cars don’t bother me as much as the type of maintenance it’s had, how’s it been driven. For example, I would buy a used car with 150,000 highway miles, and you can usually tell some of this by some of the registration things and car facts and so on. I’d rather buy a 150,000-mile highway car as opposed to a 100,000-mile city car. Sure. All day, every day. All day long.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yep, exactly. Yep.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I agree, too. Okay, thank you.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, you’re very welcome. And those are great questions, by the way, to apply to everybody else out there listening when it comes to buying used cars. So, guys, hang tight. Carl Dennis will take you in a moment. Don’t go anywhere. Drive Radio KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Drive Radio KLZ 560. Lines are full. Somebody drops off, feel free to call in 303-477-5600. Carl, you’re next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hello. We have a 2000 Chevrolet Prism, which is a Toyota Corolla. Right. And just running strong. It’s got 140,000 on it and it’s just a great car to get around town. But lately when we get a heavy rain, we get water damp on the passenger side of the backseat, backseat floor. Okay. And geez, I’ve, I look and I see the weather stripping in the door and on the door opening. It looks kind of flat. And I thought, well, I’d replace it. And the original equipment is just no longer available. Would you have any thoughts about sourcing that material? No.
SPEAKER 11 :
Do you know for sure that it’s coming through the door? I would be more concerned maybe that it’s coming through the back window, the seal around the back glass maybe, but, you know, around the back.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I’ll give you a way to test all this, Carl. we used to do back in the when I was in the dealership even clear back when because no offense in the 70s there weren’t that many things that sealed up there was a lot of issues so let me just say that so the way to check all those seals this is for anyone listening if you ever want to check a seal take a dollar bill out of your pocket And the reason why I use the dollar bill and not regular paper is because dollar bills are heavy. They’re hard to tear. So it works perfect, and it’s the exact thickness that you need. And what you do is you shut that dollar bill in the areas where you think you might have a leak and tug on it. If it pulls right through, it’s not tight enough. If you have to pull it through and tug on it to get it through, then it’s sealed up correctly. So the dollar bill check when it comes to door seals and anything along those lines is what you use to really check to see if it’s sealed up properly. And anybody can do that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Sure. Yeah, that’s easy. I didn’t know that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Really simple. Yeah, that’s good. You just put a dollar bill in, or it could be a 20. The reason I always use a dollar is if you do tear it, it’s easy to replace versus something. But it’s hard to tear one. If you’re pulling on it that hard, it’s got a really nice seal, and you’re fine, and you just open the door, pull the dollar bill out. But if you get to where you can just sort of pull that thing out, just hardly even any tension on it at all, it’s not sealed up enough. So you’re talking about the weather stripping around the perimeter of the door. You can do this for sunroofs. You can do it for door openings. You can do it for the back hatch opening. Literally anywhere where you’ve got a seal that water is sealing up things, trunks, whatever, same situation.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and the reason I say the back glass is because that’s glued in, you know, because that car is probably, what, 20-plus years old? It’s 2,000, 25 years old. 2,000, yeah. So, yeah, I would be concerned with that because a lot of times those sealers dry up and can start leaking there.
SPEAKER 04 :
And as far as finding weatherstrips go, Carl, if, in fact, you find one where it’s just loose and the door can’t be adjusted, you can’t get anything snugged up, and you actually have to replace the weatherstripping, that becomes a bigger deal. And I think in that case, you know, we’ll just have to do some research to try to find, you know, who’s got – there are universal type weatherstrips. seals that are made where you won’t clip them back in. A lot of those are done with little clips and they have little holes in them where they’re stripped. You’ll have to just buy a universal type seal and glue it on. You won’t have the ability to put it in with its clips.
SPEAKER 11 :
And there’s no rust on the top or anything like that, is there? I mean, on the roof and things?
SPEAKER 09 :
No. Okay, good. I have done the dollar bill test and It doesn’t just come flying back out, but it doesn’t have as much tension as I think it probably should.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and you should feel pretty good tension on it, Carl. In fact, in some cases, you’ll feel it to where you won’t be able to tug the dollar billet out. If it slides through fairly easily, yeah, it’s not tight enough, and you’ll get water seepage through there.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Is there a particular kind of automotive body shop be more likely to work on that?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes. That’s a collision center problem that you’re running into. You won’t find hardly anybody in the mechanical world that will fix that stuff for you because most mechanical shops just don’t have that ability. Even what I just said on the dollar bill test, I hate to say this, but most auto technicians have no idea what I just said because they’ve never been in that world. They don’t have to. Sure.
SPEAKER 05 :
I wonder on that vehicle, too, do you know if there are any drains in, like, the B pillar or the C pillar that might be clogged with, you know, leaf stuff? I know sometimes on the front in the windshield area there is, but you’re talking back seat. Right, back seat.
SPEAKER 09 :
I’ve checked all the drains in the door, and they’re all wide open. Good.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, okay, good. Yeah. You’ve pretty much, Carl, I think, done most of the diagnostics. My gut feeling is one of those seals is leaking. Now, what you could try, and sometimes this works, and it may be enough to seal things up to get you by for a while, is you can take Vaseline, for example, and put that on all of those weather strips where you think you might have a leak and see if it does anything to seal things up.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. It’ll kind of rejuvenate the rubber because it’s a petroleum. Vaseline’s a petroleum product, and it’ll lubricate that. And don’t wipe it off. Just go ahead and leave it on there. And, yeah, if you rub up against it, it’ll be kind of messy. But usually where you’re putting that, you’re never going to rub up against it anyways and just see what it does. Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. Thank you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Try that. Give it a try. Okay. Carl, appreciate it very much. Thank you for the phone call. Dennis, you’re next. Go ahead, Dennis.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yes, I have a question on emissions. I was at a tire shop and my tire sensors, a couple of them are out. And they told me you have to have them working at emissions or you won’t pass emissions. Is that true?
SPEAKER 11 :
No, that’s not true.
SPEAKER 19 :
That’s what I thought.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, as long as it doesn’t. affect the and it shouldn’t the abs and some of the other control systems it shouldn’t that the tire sensors will not what kind of vehicle dennis let’s ask that 218 silverado high country no no you’ll be fine yeah shouldn’t yeah i’m not i’m old school i got a bunch of
SPEAKER 05 :
gauges anyway right check them yeah no that won’t affect emissions on your truck yeah the check engine light is the only one that measures the emissions and then like to uh ken’s point if if it’s an older vehicle they have to run on the dynamometer then they want the abs light out so that the brakes are functional correct yeah so we’re on your next we got three minutes go ahead okay um i have a 2006 bonnie eric dulcis i just got the engine replaced and the guy who did it said that um
SPEAKER 06 :
It might need a transmission fluid service and the differential service. It has 98,000 miles on it, though. I was wondering if it’s better just to leave that fluid in there.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, change it. Change both of those for sure. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 06 :
Because I was talking with a guy from Transmissions, and he says if you do regular maintenance, do regular maintenance. But if you start at 200,000 miles, just don’t do it.
SPEAKER 04 :
I disagree. Sorry. I know he’s on the transmission side, but I’ll disagree with him all day long. And here’s my point. If it’s going to go bad, it’s going to go bad. Whether it has that fluid or new fluid in it, it’s irrelevant. Right. I will argue with him on that all day long.
SPEAKER 11 :
You figure if it’s circulating sandpaper in there as fluid and you get fluid that’s not circulating, it has the potential to last longer.
SPEAKER 04 :
Again, and I get it. These guys are the manufacturer. Unfortunately, they do very little when it comes to the repair and maintenance of things, so I will argue with those guys on that all day long. They’re wrong. Agreed.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. And I have an answer to the question of the day.
SPEAKER 04 :
Let’s hear it.
SPEAKER 06 :
The fastest speeding ticket I ever got was 11 over, and I didn’t get pulled over. It was one of the stupid speeding ticket camps.
SPEAKER 11 :
Ah. It was one of the guys I was racing. Yeah, there you go. All right.
SPEAKER 06 :
So, that was no fun.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, not at all.
SPEAKER 06 :
Those cameras in Fort Collins are deadly.
SPEAKER 04 :
They are everywhere. Yes, they are. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. So, yeah, that was just my question on that car. So, change it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Yep.
SPEAKER 06 :
And since it’s a manual transmission, do I need to get a transmission flush or just drop the oil?
SPEAKER 04 :
I’d flush it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. So even on manuals, you still have to flush them?
SPEAKER 11 :
Being the manual, I mean, it’s a little bit different. You don’t have a machine.
SPEAKER 04 :
You can drain and fill that one.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. Drain it, fill it, maybe put half of what it holds in it, circulate it a little bit. But just drain it and fill it. Yeah, you should be fine. Yeah, there’s not really a flush for the manual transmission. No.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Sounds good.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, Soren. Appreciate you.
SPEAKER 06 :
Have a good day.
SPEAKER 04 :
You too. Thanks. Somebody had a good idea, too, on some weatherstripping. This may apply in some cases, not others. If you’ve got hollow weatherstripping, which some are, and you’ll have to just feel to know if the weatherstrip’s hollow or is it all foam. If it’s hollow weatherstripping, you can take some of what you put down in a concrete crack, where you’re trying to fill in a crack, the backing, the round backing, you could slice one little opening in the weatherstripping and slide some of that through and then seal that back up if you’ve got a hollow weatherstripping to try to expand that a little bit. We’ve used vacuum hose to do that. That does it too, so you can do the same thing.
SPEAKER 11 :
But… But there again, it has to be the right and trying to explain that over the phone. It’s like that’s, you know, on the radio.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. A little bit. But that but that thank you. That is that is a good idea. You could use some of that backer in some circumstances and rejuvenate some weather strips. Again, it just depends. And I can’t tell you on that one. I don’t remember if it was a solid or if it’s hollow. It could be either or.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
and some are even hollow but really small hollow, and they do it with a seam kind of, if you’re looking down. Accordion type. Yeah, exactly. If you do a cross cut, it’s kind of an accordion. So it just depends on the weather stripping and how that’s made. So, guys, we’ve got lines open, 303-477-5600. Myself, Pat Schneid from Alltech Automotive up in Fort Collins with me, as well as Ken Rackley from Toontech Automotive. We’ll be right back. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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