Dive into today’s episode where we confront the challenges of life head-on. Our hosts unpack the unpredictable weather patterns affecting Colorado and offer advice on how to tackle unexpected turns, both in the skies and in life. We also delve into an intriguing discussion about modern perceptions, drawing insights from notable public figures and challenging widely accepted beliefs. You’ll get a chance to learn how to remain level-headed and balanced amidst conflicting narratives that society often presents.
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This is Rush to Reason.
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With your host, John Rush.
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Get a job, sir. You haven’t made everybody equal. You’ve made them the same, and there’s a big difference.
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Are you crazy? Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind?
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And it’s that time, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Thanks for joining us. Myself, Andy Pate. Today, as it is Tuesday, Charlie Grimes, our engineer, of course. And we’ll talk a little bit about the weather, especially when it comes to your roof and things like that here in a moment. But stay safe. Stay safe. Lots of things rolling around as we speak.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I guess north of us, they had hail already. Some big hail. Big hail.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. And some of you always ask that if we are interrupted, do we know it through the emergency alert system? No, we do not. Andy and I, we just keep rolling along. We honestly don’t know.
SPEAKER 04 :
We don’t hear it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, we don’t hear it. Now, one other thing I should mention to you, though, if you’re looking for… emergency alerts, you will not have those on the streaming sides of things. So if you’re listening to us through your phone or something along those lines or an app, even in the car, you will not hear those emergency alerts. So if you prefer not to listen to us streaming, if you want those alerts, then you need to tune in over the air because that’s where those alerts go out because we’re a part of that emergency broadcast system. Right. Which is good. So for some of you that maybe you want to tuning in just to know what’s going on. Most importantly, just keep your eyes peeled. Be, you know, be alert to everything going on around you and storms, as you guys know, here in Colorado. It doesn’t really matter what time of the year, by the way. We can get these things, you know, we can get these storms to come through like like it is today. And we could be nice and hot right after this, which we will be.
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Yeah, it’s going to be in the 80s tomorrow. This is one thing that always shocks me coming here from Wisconsin. In Wisconsin, you can see the weather coming for days, practically. And then it would sweep through long and slow over the area and then sweep out. You know, sometimes a little quicker because of high winds, but here… Boom.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, it can change in a minute.
SPEAKER 04 :
Boom in, boom out. Yeah, I moved here when I was 17 up in Loveland, and right away that’s what struck me is how fast the weather could come in and out. And the other thing I don’t even recall seeing in Stoughton, Wisconsin, was hail. Certainly not like this. Hey, I never thought about that.
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That’s probably right.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don’t know if it’s because of the elevation that it freezes coming over, and it seems like people don’t get hail close into the foothills, but you get out toward Aurora and further out. Boom.
SPEAKER 17 :
No, I think you’re exactly right, Andy. You’re 100% correct. It’s that inversion. It’s that quick change in temperature that does that.
SPEAKER 04 :
So you get none, do you? I mean, do you get hail impact in there and gold?
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, so you do?
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Oh, I can, yeah. Knock on wood, haven’t had any yet, but we can have, absolutely. Oh, yeah, Colorado Mills Mall, which is over there off of Colfax and 6th Avenue. Oh, yeah, they were hammered so badly several years ago they had to darn near rebuild the place. Well, it shows what I know. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, I can come in, absolutely. All right, question of the day. Yeah. Yesterday’s. Name the two words that morphed into the word okay, and those two words are all correct. Okay. So all correct became okay. They were misspelled, I guess, is what Charlie was saying, is O-L-L. Okay. Yeah, it was O-R-L-K-O-R-R-E-K-T was the original that turned into okay. What is that, some early Celtic? Uh-huh. Early spelling of all correct, yes.
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Okay.
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Became okay, and okay is easier to spell out than okay. O-R-L-K-O-R-R-E-K-T, just so you all know. So anyways, today’s impossible question of the day. Besides memory loss, signs of dementia will also manifest in this part of the body. Name that part. I didn’t know this, by the way. Besides memory loss, signs of dementia will also manifest in this part of the body. Name that part. So we’re going to dive into here in just a few minutes as we come back from this first break. And something Andy and I were talking about. Late last week, and it’s become even more prevalent. It’s funny, Andy and I threw this on the docket literally towards the end of last week, and then through the weekend and even more yesterday, it’s become an even more heated debate among even conservatives as to should we be involved in what’s happening with Israel and Iran and all of that or not.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, and before we go to break, one thing that really surprised me, because as you know, I put out a post really going after Tucker Carlson.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, he doubled down on you last night.
SPEAKER 04 :
I know he did, but the thing is that I did it on my own. I had no idea. There was no national story at all. This was about a whole week ago when I tore into him and I said, look, I defended him when he was let go by Fox News, and I absolutely was wrong. I was 100% wrong. This guy is a loon.
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Before we move on, and I have not said a whole lot.
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A very talented.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, I haven’t said a whole lot about Tucker because, you know, in some areas I have a lot of respect for Tucker and the things that he’s done. But I’ll just say it straight up before we come back and start getting into this. When people get off, and maybe this is just me, maybe I’m wrong for this, Andy, but when people get off on believing in UFOs and aliens and just the weird stuff that’s out there, which, by the way, Tucker does. He believes in all the crap I just said.
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Right, big time.
SPEAKER 17 :
And it is crap. Sorry, it’s total crap. And now you can believe we had a guest on one day that claimed a lot of that stuff that you see as demonic forces and so on, and I have no idea. That is way beyond my pay grade, and I don’t have any idea, have no thoughts along one way or the other.
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Do you even care?
SPEAKER 17 :
No, thank you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, me either.
SPEAKER 17 :
My position is, no, Andy, I don’t care. I don’t believe in any of that. Now, I believe in demons and all that, but as far as the UFOs and all that, no, I don’t believe in any of that nonsense. It’s gobbledygook.
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Really quick here. A lot of the people who believe in those, in the UFOs, will laugh at us for believing in a God who does not intervene in human affairs too much. They’ll say, you don’t see God intervening in our human affairs. Oh, really? Well, you believe in all these UFOs. They’ve been here forever, forever, forever. They’re all over the place, and they do absolutely nothing to anyone, anywhere, in any way, shape, or form.
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but yet you believe in them.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
I know, it’s weird. These are very uninvolved aliens. Thank you. It just gets, anyways, when people host, especially, you know, prominent figures, national figures, which Tucker Carlson is, when they get off on some of these weird areas, Andy, and it’s why I’m so careful with all of you. Please, all of you listening to me right now, hear me out in this. It’s why I’m so big on hoping none of you get, especially on social media, go off on these rabbit trails where you even reshare or repost something that some nut job said. And Alex Jones of the world says. And you go down this rabbit hole of utter nonsense because when you do that. And believe me when I say this, when you do that, it discredits a lot of the other good things that you may very well believe in and maybe have been involved in or promoted and helped with politically and so on. It just kills your credibility when you go down these paths. Yeah, it does. And it’s killing Tucker Carlson’s right now as far as I’m concerned. And frankly, even – well, I’ll shut up and we’ll get into this here in a moment. I’ll be quiet. We’ll come back. We’ll talk more about that. If you have anything to say on that, give us a text message, 307-282-22. Dr. Scott is up next. Dr. Scott Faulkner, and I had a question yesterday. Does he do regular doctor stuff? Absolutely. Yeah, he is an internal certified or board-certified internal medicine doctor. He will help you with anything you have going on, medically speaking, but he does do a lot of things that the regular medical community will not do, therapies and things like that, that they will probably poo-poo, but he is found to be really significant in helping a lot of individuals. We’ve had personal testimonies of those individuals right on this show. John, in a word, he’s brilliant. Yeah, he is. He absolutely is. And give him a call. He’d love to help you out and be your medical doctor today. 303-663-6990.
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God. Country. Reason. Now back to John Rush.
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And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. To myself, Andy Pate. Of course, Charlie Grimes again, our engineer. All right, Andy. And I was double-checking, too, just to make sure that I – because I didn’t watch any of the things that Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon were saying because I just – I don’t know. A, I didn’t have time. B, I’ll be honest, Andy. I don’t need to. I don’t need to watch it. Now, maybe I should be for the show, but I don’t need to watch it.
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You know, there’s this – what they do is they look at a certain group of the people who are more interventionists, much more interventionists, and they call them neocons, right? These are neocons who want war, war, war, war, war. And, John, don’t get me wrong. There are some who do, like the Liz Cheneys. I get that. Okay.
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And we are not that, by the way. You and I need to wonder that.
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Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. We’re in the middle. And the reason is I believe that if you – Really quick here on your foreign policy. I believe that if you are too far one way or the other, you become totally predictable to your enemy. Absolutely. And that’s the problem. You cannot be somebody who is anti-war, anti-war, anti-war, anti-war. Yeah, because then they can play you like a fiddle.
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Correct.
SPEAKER 04 :
By the same token.
SPEAKER 17 :
You can go the other direction.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, by the same token, if you are basically Senator Graham. And you’re very pro, pro, pro, pro, pro. Right. They can play you like a fiddle. OK, they can suck you in to all kinds of PR disasters and all kinds of bad stuff. So, you know, the Iraq war, for instance, you know, which I opposed. OK, I opposed the Iraq war. I was very skeptical of our Afghanistan mission. I was against, you know, backing Ukraine or Russia. OK, I was against everything that we have done with Ukraine. I was against a lot of this. So I am not an interventionist. However, what you have in this group of extreme peacenik wackos, and that’s what I call them. They look at everybody who is to the right. I mean, no, I’m sorry, who is more interventionist than them as all warmongers, as all neocons. They call them all neocons. They just say neocon, neocon, neocon.
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And a lot of them in this particular case, and I know we’ll get into this, Andy, and you’re definitely more of an expert in this area than I am because you speak to these people way more than I do. I just see a lot of the comments and different things. I do. get feedback at different times. But these are also, in a lot of cases, I’m sorry to say, but these are, in a lot of cases, just flat-out Jew-hating individuals that don’t think we should intervene ever when it comes to Israel, period.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, intensely. You know, and this is something that I… Remember, I was the vice chair in Arapahoe a number of years back, and the guy who was the chair, a wonderful guy, Rich, he was a Jew, an Orthodox Jew, very devout, and he’s also very libertarian in his views.
SPEAKER 17 :
Which, by the way, so are you and I. Oh, yeah. In a lot of ways, we are as well.
SPEAKER 04 :
We are what you call Republicans. Yeah, there’s a good way of saying it. Okay. And he was shocked when I told him, Rich, do you understand what libertarians, by and large, not all, there’s obviously differences, but by and large, think of Israel and Jews. Oh, well, I would assume that they’re – no, they hate you. They blame you for everything in the Middle East.
SPEAKER 17 :
And the money system and the banks, and I can go down the list, Andy.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Right? Right. The reason I went off on a tirade last week on air is because I listen – I don’t have it in front of me. I’m sorry. I’ve been going through so many of these. But I listened to a YouTube of Tucker, and he was interviewing one of his favorite Peace Nick Wacko – And he’s nodding in approval the whole time. And the guy at one point, he goes off on this long tirade, just spewing hatred against Netanyahu. And he says that Netanyahu wants to, his goals are, and he calls them the Zionist goals. They always, whenever you hear the term Zionist, you know you’re talking. It’s an anti-Jew. you know you’re talking to one of these wackos, okay? These peacenik wackos. And because they’re going to blame the Jews for everything. So anyway, what he insisted was that Netanyahu wants to control the whole area, like seize all the land by country, by country. He wants to seize it all in the area. And then he went on to say that the whole reason that Europe has been overrun by Muslims, as you know, they have been. They have. is because of, get ready, American intervention in the Middle East. Had we not intervened in the Middle East, I’m not kidding now, and Tucker was nodding in agreement, going along, agreeing with all this. Had we not intervened in the Middle East a number of times, Muslims would not have overrun Europe.
SPEAKER 17 :
That’s quite a concept.
SPEAKER 04 :
These people blame, and they always talk about the military-industrial compact.
SPEAKER 17 :
Revolutional.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Military industrial complex. And by the way, is there a military industrial complex that’s dishonest? Yes. It can go too far. Okay. And push for war, war, war. Why? Because of their profit and their bottom line. I get that. Okay. But they look at everything once again. They see neocons and military industrial complex and Zionists behind every tree.
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It’s because, Andy, and we talk about it a lot, you have to have balance in all of the things that you do and you look at. And the problem is when you start getting… Out of balance. Again, this is an encouragement to a lot of you that are listening where you’re trying to figure out some things and you’re trying to determine, you know, maybe, you know, is this a right story? Is it a wrong story? And what I would always tell you is make sure that you’ve got the proper balance as you look at these things and you start deciphering, okay, what is the right answer? What is the real answer? And I try, Andy, to apply that as much as I possibly can because without balance, you get all skewed.
SPEAKER 04 :
Exactly. Well, here’s what I mean. Here’s where you go imbalanced. They turn America first into America only.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
America first is not America only. Okay? It never was.
SPEAKER 17 :
No, it’s America first. Right. It’s America first. Right. You see the difference? Huge difference. John and Cheyenne, go ahead, sir.
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You know, some of these people that blame us for the Middle Easterners in Europe don’t know history because… most of your middle, a lot of your Middle Eastern immigrants came there after the Second World War where there was no manpower. I know when I was stationed in Germany, there were a lot of Middle Easterners that had migrated to Germany or their families had in the 40s and 50s. So they don’t know what they’re talking about, John.
SPEAKER 17 :
No, they do not.
SPEAKER 07 :
They do not.
SPEAKER 17 :
And to your point, John, they don’t know history very well, to your point.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, because if you look at post-World War II… There were not a lot of men left in Europe.
SPEAKER 17 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 07 :
And so what did they do?
SPEAKER 04 :
By the way, John, there still aren’t any in France.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, Andy, you’re just going for the French right away?
SPEAKER 04 :
I am. It’s early. I wanted to get the show off on a good start, but go ahead, John.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. No, I was just saying, John, you were talking about the weather earlier. We had the tornado warning just east of Laramie earlier. But the temperature in Cheyenne dropped 25 degrees in less than 30 minutes when that storm came through.
SPEAKER 17 :
Wow, that’s big.
SPEAKER 07 :
And, yeah, because I went out to get some lunch about 1130. It was like 80 degrees, and it was 55 degrees like two hours later. And it just came through. The storms were bad, but now I’m looking, and the skies are clearing up. So hopefully they’ll roll through and be done for a couple of days. But, yeah. No, going back to Europe, Europe is a mess because they all went socialist for that period. Some of them are getting rid of it, but it’s going to take time.
SPEAKER 17 :
And remind me, John, are some of these countries countries still that have kings? I’m sorry? Are some of these countries still countries with kings? Just asking for friends. Just asking.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. You’re asking for a friend like the king of Belgium, the king of Spain, the king of England.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, because, you know, we had a no kings thing this last weekend, so I’m just wondering, you know, these are all people, by the way, that if you were really to stop and ask them, they would tell you how much better Europe is than here, but yet, same guys holding a sign saying no king.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, but, you know, if you really look at it, John Stossel, who is a libertarian, but not a a kook. He did a great thing on talking about socialism in Europe, and most of those people pay For all those benefits, between 60% and 70% income tax.
SPEAKER 17 :
That’s exactly right. By the time you add it all up, you do their regular tax, the income, the VAT, all the things that they do. You add it all up. Yeah, your minimum. Typically, you’re in that 60% range, John. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
Also, they’ve been largely living off us with imbalanced tariffs.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. And the other thing is… They haven’t had to spend the money on defense, Western Europe.
SPEAKER 17 :
No, because we handle everything for them. Yeah, they’re living off us there, too. That’s right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and that’s always been my thing. It’s been 80 years since the end of World War II. When do we come home?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, muscle up, guys. That’s my take on it.
SPEAKER 07 :
John, have a great day. You too, John. By the way, go ahead. One other thing, John, real quick. Andy. Yeah. Did you watch those guys on Saturday in D.C.? ?
SPEAKER 04 :
Which one? The nuts? Or the army guys?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, the soldiers.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, the soldiers. You know, I only saw the clips, but I thought it was awesome.
SPEAKER 07 :
Are you jealous the way real military guys march?
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, man. That’s hilarious.
SPEAKER 07 :
Have a good day, guys.
SPEAKER 17 :
All right. See you later, John. That’s good. That’s funny.
SPEAKER 04 :
We marched in the Air Force.
SPEAKER 17 :
That’s funny.
SPEAKER 04 :
Maybe sometimes even for 30, 40 feet in a row.
SPEAKER 17 :
There you go. Well, when you’re flying, you don’t have to march. It’s different.
SPEAKER 04 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 17 :
At any rate, going back to… Just this whole, for those of you that are maybe wondering, you know, where should we lie on this? And I’ll just be straight up honest. There was a tweet that went out a few minutes ago right before we came on air, supposedly some inside knowledge that, you know, the U.S. is very close to stepping in and handling some of what’s going on with Iran. I don’t know. And this is where I’m always careful to say. I would prefer we don’t, okay? That’s my initial take is I would prefer we don’t. But I want to put a caveat to that and say I don’t know everything going on behind the scenes either. I don’t know exactly what’s happening in regards to Israel and Iran and the threats that have been made and what the thinking might be in doing this. I really don’t know, folks. So before anybody jumps to any conclusions as to we should or shouldn’t do any of that, you’re not in the midst of all the decision-making when it comes to this. In other words, you don’t have all the information. Right. Is that a good way to say that, Andy?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. We don’t have all the information Trump does. He’s got it at his fingertips, and he is making decisions based on that.
SPEAKER 17 :
And I want to add something to what you just said. And I don’t know him to be any different than this. We’ll do every single thing possible to not have a conflict. Right. It’s his normal month, despite what the rest of the world and all the knuckleheads on the left will say. You can go back and look at his history, his track record, and prove that I’m right in this. He will do virtually every single thing that he possibly can to not take us to that brink to where you’re actually engaging and doing something. Yes, now there’s been a few times in his past as president where he has gone into an area, Syria, for example, and cleaned house for a moment or two. And I’m literally talking a moment, not days, but literally a moment or two to get something, you know, hey, guys. It’s sort of like slapping your kid, giving him the McFly, hey, knucklehead. Sometimes he’ll do that to a country and say… You don’t have to beat your kid for 10 years and occupy his bedroom. No, sometimes he’ll just give them a little nudge and say, hey guys, straighten up. And that’s kind of what he’s done in the past. What will happen here, I have no idea. And I’m always a little bit… How should I say this, Andy? I’m always a little bit careful to not jump to conclusions on one side or the other. I prefer we not get involved as a country because I think the ramifications would be of such that you’re going to be reeling back from that. But I’m sure these are things that have been discussed that he’s gone through with all of his advisers, talking through all of that, determining what’s our best move here. I do think this and I don’t think I’m wrong in saying this. If Israel had their way, they would have had us involved by now because in their world it makes things a lot easier and it can get done a lot quicker if we’re involved. But I think it’s in our best interest as a country to not be unless it’s absolutely a have to that we need to proceed and do so.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I totally agree. I mean, there are people, once again, of the Tucker band who say… Never, ever, ever. Well, never, ever, ever. And they insist, oh, it’s going to be just like Iraq. WMD, we didn’t find it. By the way, a lot of that was probably moved, just for the record.
SPEAKER 17 :
That was my thought back in the day as well.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I believe a lot of that was moved. And secondly, because they had aerial footage of caravans. Correct. But secondly… These people who insist, Israel’s been saying they’re building WMD for decades now. They’ve been saying, I mean, building A-bombs. Nuclear bombs. Yeah, nuclear bombs for decades and that they’re weaponizing and doing all this and enriching uranium. Guys, we’re not going on Israel’s say-so here.
SPEAKER 17 :
No. No, not at all.
SPEAKER 04 :
And by the way, there are two big things. Number one, we’re using their intel, but we’re using also our own intel. And thirdly, we have to keep in mind… And the UN’s as well. Yeah, and thirdly, we have to keep in mind, why is Iran unwilling to let anybody look at what they are doing under these things? Now, the big thing that Trump has to deal with right now, and then we’ll go to break, is… You can let Israel do pretty much everything. But the problem is they do have especially one under a mountain location where they are allegedly enhancing uranium, developing the bombs. And this is under, what, 30, 40 feet of metal and cement. It’s built into a mountain.
SPEAKER 17 :
It’s built into a mountain.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
It’s a little more difficult than what.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Israel has some really good bunker busters.
SPEAKER 17 :
Nobody has what we have. I talked about that yesterday. No one has what we have.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 17 :
No country has what we have.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, they don’t have two things. Okay. Number one, they don’t have the specific bunker buster that you would need to take this out. And number two, you’ve got to have the right plane.
SPEAKER 17 :
They don’t have the delivery system.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. And so does that mean we have to do it? No. That means, though, that we’ve got to get at least a couple of their pilots able to fly this plane.
SPEAKER 17 :
That’s not going to happen either. That’s not going to happen because of the technology. Trump’s already talked about that. With the technology we have in that bomber, you’re not going to let anybody that’s not a U.S. armed forces that’s been cleared and all that to do so.
SPEAKER 04 :
I’m just saying hypothetically what you would have to do to not have the U.S. involved in dropping these things. Now, of course, there is one other thing. Iran wants to deal at this point. Maybe Iran will say, look, if you guys are making it very serious that you are going to take it out with or without us, then we’ll talk.
SPEAKER 17 :
Third option, and I read an article on this today, and this is a third possibility, is Israel needs to figure out how to take their Mossad and go into that facility some way, somehow, and get in there and plant enough bombs and so on to basically shut that particular facility down. That’s the other option they’ve got.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I don’t think there’s any way they can do that at this point because, obviously, security is on such high alert.
SPEAKER 17 :
And it’s the Fordow facility, by the way, that we’re talking about. F-O-R-D-O-W. That is the facility. Actually, there’s some strategic analysts out there, Andy, that would probably disagree with you on that, that think they do have the ability to do that. And again, these are probably the discussions.
SPEAKER 04 :
Look, I… I’m amazed by the massage. Don’t get me wrong.
SPEAKER 17 :
Everything that Andy and I are talking about, trust me, I guarantee you, all night long, not just in the last few minutes, but all night long in the Situation Room, everything that Andy and I are talking about right now, only in a lot more depth, by the way, for all of you listening, has gone on. Right, Andy?
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, absolutely.
SPEAKER 17 :
All the way down to, here’s the images, here’s our reports, all of this other stuff that you and I are just speculating on, they’ve literally got that information in front of them that you and I don’t have.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. And it’s incredible. Right. But, John, if they could do that, why haven’t they already? I mean, why wouldn’t you do that in the first wave? That’s going to be the hardest one to take out.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, there’s a great article.
SPEAKER 04 :
Because now the Iranians are going to simply dig in.
SPEAKER 17 :
I’ll put this article in my link for, or I’ll put this link to this article in my show notes for all of you listening. And there’s a great article that I read today. And again, it’s an article. How much meaning is there to it? I mean, it’s hard to say. But this is an article out of Tablet Magazine, or Tablet Publication it’s called. And it’s an article by Armin Rosen. And it really gets into a lot of the detail of the things that we were talking about, including even everything up to today. What has Israel done to stop the continuation of Iran’s nuclear program? In other words, even if nothing else happened beyond today, how much further behind are they? It’s a great article, by the way, talking about all the different things that have gone on, what they actually have even done up to this point to stop things in their tracks. What kind of timeline would it be like? But I think what Trump is looking at, this is me personally and his advisors, is we want this to end. It’s been proven that Iran is not going to stop in this effort of building a nuclear bomb. So you can delay it, but eventually you’re delaying the inevitable. I think right now what Israel and Donald Trump and the administration are looking at right now is how do you just stop this from happening again, period? Just end it, because so far that has not happened. It has continued on. It’s sort of like, Andy, going back to the child example. This is like that spoiled rotten brat that may settle down for just a little while, long enough to get him out of the store. But the next time you get him back in the store, guess what? He’s grabbing at this. He’s grabbing at that. He’s throwing a fit on the floor. He’s throwing a tantrum. I mean, you still haven’t stopped the problem is my point. No, you haven’t. It just keeps perpetuating. And that’s Iran. They just keep perpetuating this thing over and over and over again. And no matter what administration it’s been, they haven’t stopped. Right. And I think right now what Israel and Iran are trying to do, or what Israel and the U.S. are trying to do in regards to Iran is let’s put a final stop to this so we’re not messing with this moving forward.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 17 :
And I’m all for that, by the way.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, and this is our big disagreement with the libertarians. The libertarians believe that the only way to have peace is to not fight. Okay, folks, that is not… Yeah, that is… Now, by the way, it is also not true that you get peace by fight, fight, fight, fight, fight. No, I mean, what I would ask these two guys… Those extremes don’t work.
SPEAKER 17 :
And I don’t know them, so I don’t know their personal end of things, but have they ever raised kids? Yes. I’d like to know that from Tucker and Steve Bannon both. Have you guys ever raised kids? Because if you have, you know that your position on what you’re talking about right now in regards to our military and all of that is way off base. Because if you’ve ever raised kids, you know that you can’t do what you’re talking about with raising kids.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, it’s not going to work at all.
SPEAKER 17 :
No, it’s a disaster.
SPEAKER 04 :
What if the kid knows that his parents are, shall we say, parentally pacifists all the way?
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, they’ll take advantage of that big time.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and how’s the kid going to turn out when they’re 25?
SPEAKER 17 :
Typically not very well. In fact, there’s a lot of, for those of you that maybe don’t believe me in this. There are some great individuals, Gary Smalley being one of them, that did a lot of different things in regards to parenting and teaching the Christian community how to be great parents and so on.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, good work.
SPEAKER 17 :
And Gary’s a guy that will tell you that he was one of those that was raised by those pacifist parents. And he will tell you that it didn’t work so well for them. In fact, if he could go back and change some things, even as a child, he would prefer them to have been a lot more disciplinarian in his life than what they actually were because it would have benefited him better later on. So there’s lots of parents, by the way, or lots of adults that will tell you that same story I just shared with you. So we’ll be back in a moment. Don’t go anywhere. Veteran Windows and Doors coming up next. Dave Bancroft, 35% off up to three windows and 40% for four or more. Find him today by going to klzradio.com.
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SPEAKER 17 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. And again, that article I was talking about earlier out of tablet, I was telling Andy, great article. There’s not a lot in it. I mean, I didn’t read it word for word. You know, I read the majority of it as quickly as I could because it’s a very long article. But basically talking about how if you can shut down that Fordow, F-O-R-D-O-W, I think I’m saying that right, the Fordow facility, you’re going to set them back most likely about 50 years. in this process of them getting a nuclear weapon and so on. That’s how critical that particular facility is to Iran.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I mean, why do you think they’ve got it so protected?
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, yeah. That’s exactly why.
SPEAKER 04 :
But that’s going to be—once again, John, now that we’re in the middle of a war— I mean, if you are Iran, are you going to be trusting anyone near there if you don’t know for sure, for sure, for sure that you know them?
SPEAKER 17 :
You’d have to figure out a way, Andy, to literally… I mean, that’s awfully tough. You know, bomb, and that thing is way underground, so it’s fortified even underground. But yeah, you’d have to figure out a way to bomb all around that as much as you possibly could to where… And he did talk about how there are… even outside of bunker busters there are some ways if you could even get into the first few levels of that and set off some charges and get the roof to collapse how it would be unstable and be hard for them to even repair it and he gets into a lot of detail that’s very interesting by the way but also very hard to do on their own without our support yeah it’s going to be really hard i mean getting to that one and that is becoming the only chip they have left to play
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, that’s really all Iran’s got is that. They’ve got that ship and say, okay, we still got this threat.
SPEAKER 17 :
That’s all you got. And the one thing that Israel probably has already done, and this is great again.
SPEAKER 04 :
And they say that while denying that they’re enriching uranium.
SPEAKER 17 :
Because you think about this and some of these details you don’t really think about. At all, but one of the things that Israel’s probably already done is done whatever they can to shut the power to that facility off. Right. Because when you do, the centrifuges that are spinning now shut down. There’s no way to keep them spinning at, they spin at, it’s in here, 450 meters per second, and it wrecks them when they quit spinning, of course. Right. In fact, in some cases, they can literally come apart just from the unstableness as they’re spinning down.
SPEAKER 04 :
I would be really interested to see where the power comes from to power that facility.
SPEAKER 17 :
And he did not know.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don’t know if hardly anyone knows.
SPEAKER 17 :
What he was saying in this article is it’s doubtful it’s underground. He said it’s most likely something that’s being plumbed in some way, somehow, and it’s a matter of figuring out where is that, because it’s unlikely that their power source is in the building itself.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, maybe it’s that switch in your home that you have no idea. That light switch that doesn’t work for anything else.
SPEAKER 17 :
There you go. And this is his words. He says, you know, it says right here, somebody asked him, can Israel destroy Fordow without American help? He says, yes, I think so. They could mine it during a commando raid. They could potentially crack the ceiling or undermine the support structure of the halls. They can make it very difficult to get in. Effectively, that’s destroying it. If you can’t get in without months and months of work, then why get in at all? It’s more than likely destroyed. Most of your centrifuges are going to be broken at that point. So he is saying that, yeah, there is. And again, these are things. Trust me, folks. These are things that for the last probably. Well, since he got back from G7 last night, these are all the things Trump and his team are talking about. These very subjects is what they’re talking about.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, I think people also these libertarians, they take so lightly the intents. The intense nature of evil.
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. They don’t seem to understand. Look, right now, Iran could have, over those 60 days, but they could even do it right now. Trump would talk. Okay. He would. He says he won’t. He would. If they came to him and said, look, we want… This isn’t happening. But if they said, we want prosperity. Okay. We want prosperity. We are going to give you full access to all our facilities. You can… Go through them constantly and have full access anytime and look at them and make sure that we are not developing a bomb, but we want prosperity for our people. If they came to Trump with something like that, Trump would be like, oh, well, yeah, I’m all over that. Let’s do it. They don’t care about prosperity for their own people. It means that much to them. You are talking about a whole society. culture that is weaponized only to kill okay right this is why you know this is why i don’t like regime change so i’m going to take a shot at the quote-unquote neocons here for a moment i don’t like this regime uh… regime change mindset and yeah and nation-building mindset why because i got news for you the problem is islam unless you’re going to have islam leave a nation then guess what you’re going to get more bad leaders why because they’re islamic And their entire belief system is built on killing the infidel. How do you make that into a good belief system, John? I’m not sure how you make that work.
SPEAKER 17 :
You can’t. You can’t, Andy. OK, it’s been proven over and over again.
SPEAKER 04 :
OK, so if you can’t make that work, then why do you want to sink trillions into trying to do so? And also the blood of your own people. OK, you need to make sure that now I don’t go as far as Tucker. You’ve got to remove threats. You cannot let threats grow and hope they go away. That’s Lord Chamberlain. So. That’s stupid.
SPEAKER 17 :
Really quick, just devil’s advocate on the Tucker side. I mean, I guess, does Tucker feel like if all we do is defend our own shores and our own walls, I guess we’re okay at the end of the day? And then the question I would ask Tucker back would be, okay, so what you’re saying is if a madman like these Iranians and or the terrorist organizations that they could supply with a nuclear warhead if they were to get a hold of that and it comes this way what’s your answer tucker well he would hope i guess that we have our own golden dome but we don’t i know that doesn’t exist right now tucker i mean you see where i’m going with this he’s so unrealistic you know john here’s another he’s a smart guy by the way but is he not thinking through some of the things i’m asking
SPEAKER 04 :
John, when you are completely bent, hell-bent on a certain perspective in life, it turns off your intellect in that area.
SPEAKER 17 :
Maybe he thinks the aliens will save us.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, John, how smart do you think I am when talking about the Green Bay Packers?
SPEAKER 17 :
Not very.
SPEAKER 04 :
Not very, okay, why? Because I am totally committed to my Green Bay Packers, okay? By the way, you’re not too bright talking about your Broncos. But nobody is. Be true to your team, right? And so how many MAGA people… say things where we are kind of like, you know, I’m sorry, but that’s not true. That’s not going to sell. That doesn’t work. Where they insist on running a candidate in a district where they can’t possibly win.
SPEAKER 17 :
I go back to my balance issue that we opened up with. You’ve got to have the right balance to be able to look at things correctly to know at the end of the day what’s going to work and not work. And I was joking, but maybe Tucker does feel like the aliens will save us.
SPEAKER 04 :
Maybe he does.
SPEAKER 17 :
Seriously, maybe he thinks that.
SPEAKER 04 :
John, here’s what people like Tucker don’t seem to understand. And they don’t. They don’t understand the true nature of Islam. And here’s what I mean. Islam is much worse than Nazi Germany, okay? Because, first of all, Islam wants to do all the same killing and everything that Nazi Germany did, right? However, number one, they have access now to modern weaponry that way, way, way… out shoots what they had back in Nazi Germany. That’s just obvious. We’ve come that far. And they have, I mean, there are Islamic, you know, republics with nukes, okay?
SPEAKER 17 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s the real problem.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, Pakistan.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
Others, yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. Yeah, I get it. Number two, the Germans didn’t think that they had 72 virgins awaiting them afterward if they die for this. Do you see the difference? There was no religious fervor with the Germans. They were anti-religious, largely. Right. Good point. Here’s another thing. The Germans were part of a nation, right? That nation would come over the hill at you or whatever. That’s not Islamic. Islam’s everywhere. So Islam, this threat, is threaded throughout societies. Look at Europe now. So it’s threaded throughout all kinds of societies. Right now we have a problem that Iran has all kinds of people here in the United States who could strike us in many ways tomorrow.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. And before some of you— The Germans, you know, they had some, but they didn’t have anything on this level.
SPEAKER 17 :
Before some would run around and say, okay, well, then what keeps us from attacking the Pakistans and some of those of the world where they have a nuclear weapon and have one existing right now? Right. The difference is, Andy, they’re not running around saying death to Jews.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. They’re not putting it in their— Not publicly, anyways. Yeah, they’re not putting it in their charter that we are here to remove Israel from the map.
SPEAKER 17 :
And there’s been other times where they’ve actually come alongside us and helped us defeat some of those that would do that. And it’s weird because they’re all kind of of the same flavor. Right. But they’re not.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right, right, right, right. They’re very uneasy allies at times, yes. And you’re only allied because you’re going against a worse foe. And, for instance, Iran is a much bigger problem for them than it is for us simply because of geographic location.
SPEAKER 17 :
That’s right. It’s right next door.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. They don’t want Iran to have it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Correct. Nor does, despite what the Saudis and some of those would say, because they came out and said, well, Israel shouldn’t be doing this. And that’s kind of about all they said, by the way.
SPEAKER 04 :
Sure.
SPEAKER 17 :
Because they also know at the end of the day that they’re more worried about pumping that oil and turning that spigot on than they are anything else.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and also, let’s face it, if Israel hits those oil fields in Iran, then the Saudis have a much more expensive product. They’d be very happy.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, really quick along those lines, I’m glad you mentioned that, because you know who’s got the most to lose in all of what’s going on in Iran right now, especially when it comes to oil? China. China loses out the biggest because they buy 90% of Iran’s oil, which isn’t a lot. It’s a couple million barrels a day, roughly, maybe not even that high. It might be just a tad below 2 million a day. But it’s still quite a bit, and they would have to figure out another source to buy that oil, and it would be a lot higher priced than what it is right now because they’re buying oil that basically no one else in the world will buy because nobody will touch it except them.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, when I look at everything that Joe Biden did as president, one thing it always comes back to, it always comes back to the fact that he was serving China. Yeah, and a great example of what’s happening in Iran. Look what he did for Iran.
SPEAKER 17 :
So really quick, why can’t the Tucker Carlson’s and the Steve Bannon’s of the world figure out what you just said?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, they do know that. Tucker would be the first one to say Joe was in the pocket of China.
SPEAKER 17 :
So then why would he be against what’s happening right now when it comes to what’s going on in Iran?
SPEAKER 04 :
Because he believes that the use of force will bring greater repercussions no matter what. But the problem is that that comes with the assumption that if you don’t use force, that somebody like Islam will therefore thank you for it and not use force against you. We’ll just go over there and talk nicely. Well, because it presumes that, first of all, that they are not going to build, build, build, build, build and become worse, worse, worse, worse, worse, and then hit you harder. That’s lunacy. Of course they will. That’s exactly what they’ve been doing, right? Look, it’s just, this is pacifism. Rabid, peacenik, crazed pacifism. He has this General Douglas McGregor who comes on his show. And he was a general, I believe, in the Gulf War. OK, and I’m sure he was a very good strategist. But some of these generals, some of these ex-military types, and, you know, I’m a veteran, but some of them go rapid all the way, rabidly the other way. They completely lose their stomach for war. And when I say that, I’m not saying that I love war. OK, but what I mean is. They think about what war is, what it really does, because war is hell. It is. It tears apart bodies. It’s a horrible thing, right? They think about that, and they decide, at all costs, we must not be part of this, and it wrecks their foreign policy.
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SPEAKER 17 :
And a couple of you have texted in that, yes, Kristi Noem has been taken to the hospital here about 10 minutes or so ago. Not sure why she was conscious when she arrived. And as more information comes out, I’m sure you guys will see that as well. But I don’t know the circumstances, so I can’t speculate one way or the other what’s going on there.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, I mean, she’s a health nut.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
So, you know, incredibly healthy woman. I have no… Who knows? You never know what can happen.
SPEAKER 17 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Getting back really quick to Iran, we’ve got to keep in mind this is Joe Biden’s war. For these people saying, well, this is starting under Trump, no, no, no, no. Hopefully it’s finishing under Trump. We’ve got to keep in mind, first of all, Barack Obama sent them, what, $16 billion in pallets of cash? I forget.
SPEAKER 17 :
Some huge amount. Yeah, huge number.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, and Joe Biden undid Trump’s sanctions on them, okay? Joe Biden unleashed their ability to make money. They have the money to do this because of the left. Donald Trump is having to fix it. $400 million on the one plane. On one plane. Wow. Must have been weighed down quite a bit.
SPEAKER 17 :
Those were the pallets, $400 million. Pallets. Pallets of cash. Pallets of cash. They showed pictures of it. I mean, Obama was standing in front of them. It was literally on wooden pallets, yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Isn’t that amazing?
SPEAKER 17 :
And was a further settlement, or that was part of the installment, the first installment of the $1.7 billion we were allowing them to have. Remember, it was frozen in funds and so on, and we released all that to them.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, but we unfroze a lot more funds.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes, that was just that first round, like I said.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right, right. Unbelievable. Look, the bottom line is Iran wouldn’t be able to do any of this, John, if it weren’t for the American left.
SPEAKER 17 :
That’s right. You wouldn’t be in the situation you’re in right now, period, without that. So we’ll leave it at that. We’ve got a lot more to talk about today, folks, as always. And, again, be careful of the storms that are out there. Most of them, where we are here in Aurora, have passed through. But you never know. Be very careful. And, again, be watching for that. Some of you have been texting me on that as well. So, yes, we’re aware of that. And some of you have even heard some of the alerts that have gone out. Again, we’ll be back. Hour number two is next. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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