In this engaging episode, the spotlight is on the role of the media in shaping public perception and the consequential impacts on society. John, Dr. Kelly, and Steve unravel the intricacies of media bias, particularly during the ongoing pandemic. They fearlessly discuss suppressed truths about COVID-19 treatments, inflated mortality statistics, and how power dynamics influence media narratives. The dialogue extends beyond current events, reflecting on the erosion of societal standards and the ramifications of prioritizing political correctness over factual integrity. Listeners are invited to explore how these issues permeate daily life and what it means for the future.
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SPEAKER 16 :
All right. Happy Thursday, everybody. Welcome Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Dr. Kelly Victory joining us today. I’ve got Steve House with us as well. Dr. Kelly, I’ll start with you. Welcome. Happy New Year.
SPEAKER 05 :
Happy New Year to you, too. And what a new year it’s been. We’re only nine days in and it’s been quite a whirlwind. I don’t know about you, but I’ve lost track of which plague we’re on. I know we’ve done we’ve done pestilence, floods and fire. So I’m not sure what’s next. But it’s it’s looking like it’s going to be a little bit of a rocky start.
SPEAKER 16 :
I can’t disagree with that. Steve House, welcome as well. And yeah, I can’t argue with Dr. Kelly on that one.
SPEAKER 17 :
I’m waiting for Noah to show up in a robe and a ship. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 16 :
Good one. Good one. Yeah. And I talked about this a little bit yesterday in regards to the fires and stuff happening out in California. And I don’t have anybody directly that I know that’s been affected by that, but I know there’s a lot that have. And, of course, here in Colorado, we’ve had our own issues along those lines. And, again, was any of this planned on the front side? Honestly, I have no idea. You always wonder how these things get started. What I do know, though, is the debacle in putting them out is definitely real, Dr. Kelly.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, there’s no question. And I am in California right now and have quite a few friends and colleagues who are being directly affected, some who have already or will likely lose their homes and everything entirely. It is beyond a debacle. We have people in charge, and we’ve seen this before. This is reminiscent of Lahaina and certainly Western North Carolina. We have people in charge who are either wholly incompetent or who are complicit in some pretty nefarious activities. How in the world in California do you have a mayor who’s out of the country in the middle of wildfire season? There’s no water in the fire hydrants. You know, they’re woefully understaffed, and instead we find out that she cut millions of dollars, almost $20 million out of the budget, and deployed it instead for diversity and equality, excuse me, equity programs in the fire department. Yeah, DEI, making sure that we’re hiring enough trans people in the fire department, rather than making sure that we actually can put out fires and protect homeowners when the need arises.
SPEAKER 16 :
Steve, you can add to that as well, but it really is, it’s sad. There’s people out there, as Dr. Kelly said a moment ago, that are directly affected by this. It affects, most of you may not understand this, but this has a direct effect upon all of us because when these sorts of things happen, insurance rates, prices, things along those lines will definitely increase. So for all of you listening, if you think for one second this doesn’t affect you, Steve, it definitely will.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, and I hate to be sarcastic, but I’m going to be that way anyway to illustrate a point, and that is that DEI clearly worked because now there’s no selectivity. Everybody’s house burned down. I mean, it’s just ridiculous, the thought process. You know what? My first thought when this started happening was, what if Ron DeSantis were the governor of California? Because Ron DeSantis is an expert at dealing with mass disaster-type things, and his planning would have been better every season. They would have had a better discussion. They would have headed us off with the path. It is the difference between a liberal mentality where… You know, illegal aliens and people invested in DEI are more important than the people paying the taxes and delivering on the production of businesses and revenue. And they just don’t get treated well because apparently they didn’t do that, according to Obama, so they’re not going to get anything back in return.
SPEAKER 16 :
Let’s not forget the smelt fish are more important than all these people in their homes as well, Dr. Kelly and Steve, because the reality is a lot of that water that Steve is talking about, and this has been a conversation that’s gone on now for more than a decade, the reality is because of a little minnow, we… as citizens of the United States, are going to now have the repercussions of these fires, and we do on an ongoing basis. And the reality is people in California even get hit harder because the reality, as you know, Dr. Kelly, is it’ll get harder and harder and harder to find homeowners insurance.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. And to Steve’s point, the reality is I have an entire specialty in disaster preparedness and response. There’s a tremendous body of science. We know how to do this to prepare in advance. But instead, these liberal run cities and you saw the same thing, by the way, in New Orleans in that tragic event in the early hours of New Year’s. Again, they’re always reactive rather than preparing ahead of time, doing the things that we know are work. that would have stopped that terrorist event from happening. Instead, they get up the next day, don’t even say mea culpa. They just say, well, going forward, we’re going to do this. They’re always reactive. How in the world could you not have prepared better in the state of California when we know these winds occur? We know what’s going to be at risk. We know the things you can do for fire mitigation, but they don’t do that. Instead, they spend the money on stupid programs like making sure we’re, you know, As I said, hiring trans people rather than focusing on preparing. And there’s a body of science around it. There are people they can hire as consultants if they need to.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely. Steve, also, this whole just lack of water in California, and I know I’ve read both sides of the story, and the left will claim that, no, that’s not really true. There is plenty of water, and it’s not a matter of filling anything up or not filling anything up. We were ready. This just caught us by surprise, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And my comment back would be, Guys, come on. Time out. Caught by surprise. These things happen out there every single year, almost like clockwork. You could literally almost set your calendar to the things that are happening. I don’t buy that, Steve.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, you can’t in the same sentence say we were ready and we were caught by surprise. I mean, it just doesn’t work, right? I mean, they know. I mean, frankly, how did insurance companies… who’ve canceled policies recently for fire in California. What did they know that the city of Los Angeles didn’t know? Because you know what? Actuarials work on projects. They look at weather patterns. They look at dryness. They look at when somehow they knew that it was a good time to get rid of some policies because of the risk they did it. A lot of those policy owners went to the state and got insurance, which probably isn’t as good. But how do you get surprised if you’re ready? I don’t think you do. It happens every year. It’s crazy.
SPEAKER 16 :
Fully agree. All right, let’s move into some of the things we were texting around. And I know we will not get to all of the things that we have been chatting about this past week. But let’s at least get started. We’ll get as much of this done as we possibly can. And let’s start with just a simple fact. Dr. Kelly, we’ll start with you. The amount of, and we’ve known this, we’ve talked about this between you and I, and for those of you listening, Dr. Kelly’s been with us for five years now. Steve House was instrumental in having her on. She’s got her own page on our site. Just go to RushToReason.com. You can find her there. But, Dr. Kelly, we’ve been talking about some of these things openly now for five years, but yet news media has been burying a lot of these things all along, and that’s finally coming to light, isn’t it?
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, there’s no question. We have the receipts and it’s irrefutable that the mainstream media was complicit in actively suppressing information, information on everything, John, from the ineffectiveness and the dangers of the vaccines to the fact that we had readily available, safe and effective medications to treat covid. including things like Ivermectin. They knew that the numbers of deaths from COVID were being wildly inflated. They knew that everybody wasn’t at equivalent risk, and on and on and on. They lied about, you would have a much easier time coming up with a list of things that they didn’t lie about, things that they didn’t cover up, than things that they did. We have no integrity right now in our media. And it’s largely because they’re owned and controlled by big pharma and by politicians.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep. Steve, and you can comment on this again. We were talking about a lot of this stuff earlier in the week, and there’s a post, and we’ll put this up, the link to it, in our show notes, the 10 shocking stories the media buried. And the reality is there’s a lot of these things that they buried, including, and we’ll get into some of this, you know, childhood deaths from the shots, and on and on we go. The reality, Steve, is, you know, we as a people… literally have been not only duped by news media, but just flat out lied to and steered in a direction that’s criminal.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. And, you know, I’ve often wondered what starts you down that path. And I’ll give you a premise. I think the premise in part is we want to retain power with a socialist agenda. liberal elite. So anything that will make them look bad, we will find a way to suppress it, to tell an alternative story, to create confusion, to gaslight people. It seems like they do that over and over and over again, only when a liberal elite stumbles, Sean Coombs, Kamala Harris, different contexts, but when they stumble and they become a scenario where they’re not going to be able to do what the liberal elite want or they’re not going to be successful, then they dump on them. And then they say, well, we’re fair and balanced because we beat up Kamala Harris after she lost the election by a big amount of margin and she couldn’t talk without having a word salad. Well, that’s pretty late to the game. I mean, it’s just the mentality that they have that it’s, They have to win at all costs because their belief about how the world should work And frankly, the idea that when you’re that elite, you’re more elite than God, and therefore you’ve got to get rid of God in the process because it’s competition, that stuff is so obvious it’s ridiculous. And all the things we talked about this week, I mean, the memo from 2015 outlining what would happen if you had a pandemic, and, oh, it was a coronavirus, and, oh, it did come from a lab leak. I mean, that’s insane, and it’s obvious what happened.
SPEAKER 16 :
And on top of that, Dr. Kelly, we’ve got folks like The View’s Sonny Hostin comparing J6 to the Holocaust. I mean, these people will – how should I say this? They’ll leave no stone unturned to make sure that their view, quote-unquote, is shoved upon the American people.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. And so I think, number one, I think Steve is correct. Part of it is the totalitarian modus operandi, which is to protect their leaders at all costs. There’s a reason why in the Soviet Union and North Korea and China, you get arrested and imprisoned for criticizing the leader. That is not acceptable in those societies. And they’re making it that way in the United States. You will be deplatformed, censored, canceled, ridiculed, threatened if you criticize anybody in a position of authority. So there’s that component. There’s the component of money, pure, unadulterated greed that big pharma wants to make money, and they know they can only make money if they falsify documents, keep the safety data hidden, and control the mainstream media who might otherwise… start to promote or talk about and expose some of the dangers. So instead, they make huge investments in advertising on mainstream media. And therefore, I don’t care if you’re Sean Hannity or Rachel Maddow, you are not in a position to do a story or say anything negative about Merck or Pfizer because you’ll get fired because your boss is saying, look, we can’t afford to lose those advertising dollars. So shut up.
SPEAKER 16 :
That’s right.
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We need the revenue.
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This is Rush to Reason. All right, we are back. Dr. Kelly Victory, Steve House with us today. Dr. Kelly, you wanted to make a comment on what Sonny had to say about J6 being equal to the Holocaust, which again, all I can do is shake my head.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, and it wasn’t that comment in and of itself. It was that this has become routine for the left to make this hyperbolic, you know, false comparisons. And the reason it’s so insidious John, is because it undermines people’s willingness to speak the truth. If you watch what has gone on, for example, in the UK right now with the rape and assault of all of these young girls by Pakistani and Muslim men, when you ask why it went on for years and years and people wouldn’t speak out, it’s because they were afraid. The media and the police were afraid of being called racist. Right now, people’s worst fear is being called a Nazi, being called a racist, being called a homophobe. People are so hellbent on making sure that they remain politically correct because they know what it will do to their lives, to their careers, if they are tarred and feathered as a racist or a homophobe or a Nazi. And so all Sonny House or somebody else from The View has to say is, this is like the Holocaust, right? Or this is like, you know, whatever. And people run for the hills. They won’t push back. So much so that an entire country suppressed the well-known fact that young girls were being kidnapped and raped and assaulted and sold into prostitution. And they kept it quiet for fear of being called a racist. Think where we have gone as a society when that is the case.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. Steve, I’ll let you have the final word on that one.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, I mean, if you think about what’s happening, it’s I mean, it’s not I mean, Sonny’s husband, by the way, I don’t know if you saw that story that he’s now being sued for insurance fraud and what he did. No, I didn’t see that horrible, horrible as a surgeon. He he was effectively taking people who had workers comp insurance. They’re required in his state to pay. And what he would do is if somebody had a bruised thigh, he would do an arthroscopic surgery on their knee, bill for the knee, sue if they didn’t get paid from the insurance company for the knee. They had to pay him because of the state law, and they were making a boatload of extra money. So he is probably going to go to jail, and maybe Sonny will shut up for a while. But going back to the other thing, what Kelly was describing in my mind is – Across the board, if you think about all those labels and titles, what it’s led to is we have lowered our standards dramatically. Our standards for education, for proper behavior, for who goes into what bathroom. The lowering of standards is going to have an impact on America that’s going to be felt for many generations. We just haven’t gotten completely there yet.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, I talked about that yesterday. I was on vacation for a little while, came back, and I always give kind of a recap of what I notice and observe on vacation. And guys, you guys travel like me, and I don’t think it’s just me. People are getting more rude all the time. They’re not taught basic manners any longer. And that in and of itself is becoming an epidemic. And Dr. Kelly, I see it almost daily. It’s like, do you not know how to say excuse me?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, truly, we are becoming closer and closer to a third world country where it’s just chaos all the time. People don’t follow the rules, the common decencies, the customs that we used to think of as the norm here, dressing appropriately to go to the grocery store. You mean not wearing jammies to the grocery store, Dr. Kelly? Yes. Exactly. Or on an airplane. Thank you. I fly every week. The number of people who get on an airplane, I think, did you not have time to actually get dressed? Yep. What are you thinking? I say the same thing. We are really, really, it has degraded our entire culture. And I hate to say it because I am not anti-immigration, but we are bringing in people from other parts of the world who are not interested in becoming American. They’re not interested in adopting our culture. Instead, they are demanding that we abdicate to their cultures. So when you see people getting on airplanes, I see them all the time barefoot or on the train barefoot. They may do that in their country. That’s not what we know here in the United States. And we need to expect and demand better.
SPEAKER 16 :
I agree. Steve, that goes along the lines of what you were just saying a moment ago. And I personally have seen it get worse through COVID, but it hasn’t changed. In fact, I saw it get worse through COVID. And it’s all it’s done, Steve, to Kelly’s point a moment ago, is gone downhill since.
SPEAKER 17 :
I know people just assumed that it was okay. I mean, you know, Zoom calls, not going to the office. I mean, not going to the office by itself has changed our dress code substantially just because people don’t feel like they have to anymore. They don’t have to present themselves in that way. And then when you have all these cultural things that prevent people who are underperforming from getting fired or, you know, not getting the promotion they want. I mean, so many aspects of culture. Everybody gets a trophy in Little League Baseball. There has to be a culture of success for society to be successful. And we are not there anymore. We’ve lost that.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right, let’s move along. One of the things I did want to talk about, because this was sent to me by a few listeners this week that noticed the same thing, and that is this burying of Moderna’s findings on a preschool-aged child that died, quote-unquote, in their trial. I mean, Dr. Kelly, what gives them the right to feel like that’s okay?
SPEAKER 05 :
Look, this has been going on. That’s one of hundreds of examples where information, where data was either falsified or deep-sixed. Yes, it’s horrific. Absolutely, Moderna knew that one of the kids died in the very, very limited trial that they did. and they simply made it unavailable to the public. Remember, were it not for the FOIA demands, these pharmaceutical companies would have kept the data and all of this information suppressed for 75 years. We know from Pfizer’s own pre-distribution study, they knew from the very beginning, before the first shot went into somebody’s arm, they knew that… It did not stay in the deltoid muscle. They knew that the mRNA went to every single organ system. Within a matter of hours, they knew that. Yet they kept that suppressed and they lied. So that’s what I’m saying. These were not mistakes my government made. This was not, oh, we didn’t know. It was all novel. We were caught up in the fear and panic. And who could have known they did the best they could? No, they didn’t. They lied. They falsified data. They suppressed documents. They provided fraudulent data to the FDA and the FDA was complicit in it. So this is truly we have got to hold people accountable or I promise this will happen again.
SPEAKER 16 :
Steve, after January 20th, when Trump gets inaugurated, we have some changes with staffing positions and so on. RFK Jr. and the like. Do you see any of this? Dr. Kelly was just talking about. Do you see any accountability coming out of that at that point?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, that’s a hard one, John. I mean, I think, you know, not only do we have a kid died, you know, and Moderna did what they did, but there’s a lot of different drugs that fall into this category. The question I would be asking is, okay, guys, look, you tried mRNA technology before. And what happened when you tried it? Well, you know, spike proteins became a problem. People had myocarditis. I mean, they had some of the symptoms that we’ve seen so dramatically change things. I mean, 900% increase in heart attacks in certain categories, things like that. Well, when you try a drug on a framework that you already know has a problem, why wasn’t the study and or everything we did in the early days of vaccinating people, why weren’t they looking really closely for this? I mean, it’s like knowing, you know, hey, John, I got a car, the front wheel falls off every three miles. Well, guess what? You’re driving alongside me watching the damn front wheel because you know it’s got a problem. Why would you not study, look for, and be hypervigilant about the things you knew that the mRNA framework had? problems with, and we didn’t. We suppressed it and hid it, and that’s another part of what the government says.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and using your example, and I think I’m going to say this correctly, because if I were being paid billions of dollars by the government, whether that was nefariously or otherwise, but at the end of the day, if I’m getting paid billions of dollars to ignore that, Steve, and just keep moving right along and never even bother to figure out how to fix it, there’s your answer. Am I correct?
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh yeah, think about this. This is, as we talked about this week, this is the greatest business model of all time for making money. You have a virus created by you, distributed to the population. You know, you have a patent and you have the keys to a vaccine that theoretically is a vaccine because it’s not and you have the keys to something that might work and the government will do, then you get 100% liability protection because you release it under emergency use order. And oh, by the way, the government buys it for everybody. and that’s billions and globally billions of dollars how do you have a better business model with no liability automatically your products being purchased it’s being purchased at a high price and it’s being utilized by eight billion people in theory worldwide and yet dr kelly we’ve
SPEAKER 16 :
We’ve got several different governors, states, and so on that will talk about how they need laws for price control and price gouging and this, that, and the other. All the while, what Steve just said is 100% accurate. It’s almost like, wait a minute, people. You guys bought into all of that nonsense, and yet you still want to go down these other paths. Why not go back and fix that?
SPEAKER 05 :
Let’s add another layer to what Steve just said. Then you have the people who are actually in the position to make the recommendations that do form a mandate. People at the FDA and the CDC who own parts of the patents in these drugs. So every single shot that gets sold, they make money. OK, so you’ve got people talk about a conflict of interest. You have people, the FDA and the CDC, who are in a position to make money on every shot that’s given. And they are the same people who just get to recommend and decide whether this shot should be on the childhood schedule. I mean, talk about feathering your own nest. This is a conflict of interest on steroids. It is absolutely an unbelievable business model, and they don’t want to see it go away, which is, by the way, one of the reasons that their hair is on fire in Washington and other places, because of the idea that Bobby Kennedy Jr. may in fact end up getting confirmed to head up HHS, because he will expose these sorts of conflicts of interest and this unethical and fraudulent behavior.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, and that was going to be my next question. By the way. Go ahead, Steve. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 17 :
John, there’s one other piece that I thought Kelly was going to mention, too, which is not only did you get the vaccine, you got a global need for it, you set the price, yada, yada, yada. But then you make some alternative drugs like Paxlovid and Remdesivir, which are there to treat the symptoms of the virus you made and hospitals. when they use those drugs, charge unbelievably high rates for those drugs, and they make money. And, of course, you have the $39,000 fee for someone who dies of COVID. I mean, where could you have drawn this up any better to make hundreds of billions of dollars and get away with it?
SPEAKER 16 :
That was going to be my next question to you, Dr. Kelly, is, yeah, what other type of a business model out there would allow you to do the things Steve has mentioned?
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely none. So you cannot think for a minute that this was all just coincidence. This is coordinated, absolutely coordinated. And it is beyond evil because the hospitals made money. Doctors made money. People in government agencies made money. God knows the pharmaceutical companies made money. People were making money hand over fist. on the pain, suffering, death, and disease of the American people. So in addition to destroying the economy, destroying the education, destroying the futures of an entire generation of kids, they resulted in the deaths, the unnecessary deaths. We had drugs to treat these things, to treat COVID, in those few people who got significantly ill from it. But instead, as Steve said, they used drugs like Paxlovid and Remdesivir that actually hastened the death of people, put them on ventilators because the hospital got an extra $39,000 per person who they could claim died of COVID. It was one big racket. And they’re teeing up. Look, they’re teeing up to do it again with with the bird flu. We’re already seeing them. You know, they’re modifying it in the lab. They’re doing gain of function research. They’re trying to make it more transmissible human to human, which is something it would not do if left to its own. It’s really only ever been a risk to people who are in direct contact with. with infected animals, but they are trying their best to see if they can come up with a way to create yet another pandemic.
SPEAKER 16 :
So here’s a question for you, Dr. Kelly, and I’ll let you talk on this as well, Steve. When is the next one, and will people be gullible enough to follow through a second time?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I think, as I said, they’re teeing up for bird flu. So far, in this great state of California, Gavin Newsom now is a couple weeks into the, quote, proactive state of emergency. I don’t even know what that is, and I am a disaster and emergency specialist. How you proactively declare a state of emergency when there hasn’t been a single human-to-human case of bird flu in the entire state. Not one. Not one. bird flu in the state of Louisiana, we don’t even know if that person died of the bird flu. There’s been a paucity of information released about that person other than we know it was a male, he was elderly, had other medical problems, and did test positive for bird flu. But we have no idea if that’s actually what he died from. For all I know, he had heart disease or cancer. Yet they are using this to foment fear. And good news, though, people, they’ve got a vaccine at the ready. They’ve got another mRNA vaccine ready to roll out for bird flu. So that’s, you know, yes, they they are going to create as much chaos and panic as they can. They’re already doing it. These fires didn’t help much. But between, you know, now and the inauguration and then, unfortunately, they’re using the bird flu as a reason to call to kill off hundreds of thousands of poultry birds as well as cattle. And that will have the. absolutely predictable effect of driving up poultry, beef, and egg and dairy prices so that they can claim in March and April when prices are through the roof that it’s because Donald Trump is a failure.
SPEAKER 16 :
And again, I said this yesterday, all the while being the party that is supposedly for the little guy, which, Dr. Kelly, nothing could be farther from the truth.
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly. Exactly. Oh, they don’t care at all about the middle man. No. The middle America. No. Not a bit.
SPEAKER 16 :
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And we are back. Dr. Kelly Victory, Steve House with us. Okay, before we move along to anything else, Dr. Kelly, the other thing, and Charlie actually mentioned this through the break there, the first break we had, wanted to know what is the deal with HMPV, the quote-unquote common virus spreading in China? Is there anything to that, or is that something that’s been around a while?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, a human metapneumovirus. Again, it’s the same class or family of viruses. that RSV, respiratory syncytial virus, is in. It’s known to cause mild upper respiratory symptoms, usually runny nose and nasal congestion in most people. Like every other respiratory virus out there, including rhinoviruses and certainly influenza, In some people, in an elderly person or somebody with a compromised immune system or a very young baby, it could cause more severe illness. But it’s very, very rare, very uncommon. And furthermore, it’s easily treatable by all of the common antivirals that we have. So once again, this is fear porn. Human metapneumovirus is nothing to be concerned about, assuming that they don’t start manipulating it in a lab to make it more virulent.
SPEAKER 16 :
Steve, you sent something that I really wanted to dive into, so we’ve got enough time, I think, before we close out here. We’ve got about 10 or 12 minutes to do this. And that is the report that came out in the U.K. talking about all of the heart damage in vaxxed young people. Now, again, we’ve talked about this. You know, you, I, and Dr. Kelly have talked about this now for multiple years. But now, not that we were ever wrong and never thought we were, we were right all along. And now there are studies proving what we’ve been saying all along.
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There absolutely are. I mean, there’s studies on that. There’s studies on, you know, the potential problem with vaccines and autism. They’re all sitting out there. You want to know what the next pandemic is? You know, first of all, decide what a pandemic is. How many people have to die for it to be a pandemic? And let’s just say that number is, you know, 100, 200,000, 300,000 people in a year that die that shouldn’t have died from something. Cancer is the next pandemic from the vaccine itself. I mean, there is all kinds of potential problems and injuries. I mean, Albert Dowd said that there was 14 million deaths from the vaccine, 65 million injuries globally, serious injuries globally from the vaccine. He’s a statistician, et cetera. Peter Hotez’s response, if I get this right, I’m sure I’m close on this is, well, the reality of it is the vaccine saved 17 million lives. Well, okay, it saved 17 million people in theory from a sicker version or being hospitalized or even death. And it killed 14 million. So that somehow justifies giving the vaccine. I mean, quite frankly, if you did save 17 million, I know that Dr. Victory knows this. that there’s a risk profile at play here. The 14 million people that died from the vaccine, most of them never should have had it and wouldn’t have died from COVID either.
SPEAKER 16 :
Dr. Kelly, really quick, because I want you to add to what Steve just said, but I want to throw something else out to you because this is just my own personal observations. I want to get you guys’ opinions on this as well. And I’m not a doctor. I am not you, Dr. Kelly. But, you know, I know data and I observe it and I watch and pay attention and so on. And again, I’m not I’m not you. I’m not a doctor, Dr. Kelly. But it sure seems to me that people that were vaccinated and even have had multiple boosters are the sickest among us. Am I wrong?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, there’s there’s absolutely no question that you’re not wrong. And we know that the more heavily vaccinated you are for covid. the more likely you are to contract covet okay and they are exactly the people who are multiply boosted are the people who keep getting it over and over and over again as well as other things they’re getting influenza they’re getting rsv they’re getting all sorts of other uh unidentified colds and upper respiratory symptoms and they’ve done some significant damage to their immune systems but the point that you know steve is making is the one that i come back to over and over Everything in medicine boils down to a risk-benefit calculation. The people who were forced to get these vaccines, the COVID vaccines, to stay at work, to stay in the military, to continue their education, to play college sports, whatever it was, that group of people was never at risk from COVID itself. So they took all risk, no benefit. If they’d gotten COVID, which 99.9% of them did, they sailed right through it. They got the common cold and they got better. So it was all risk. The people who you could have perhaps in a long shot made an argument that it made sense to vaccinate would have been the very elderly who are already in… assisted living homes or in group settings where you’re saying, yes, there’s a risk they’ll have a bad reaction to this vaccine, but their risk if they get COVID itself could be very, very bad. So we’re going to go ahead and take that risk. But the people who sustained cardiac damage and autoimmune illnesses and now have turbo cancers are all people who were vaccinated who never had a risk from COVID itself. And now they’re going to die Instead, from their turbo cancer, their myocarditis, their overwhelming autoimmune issues, and that is a travesty. It’s wrong. And somebody has got to start openly acknowledging this. When I say somebody, I don’t mean the three of us. and people like Ed Dowd, who I know well, and we talk about this all the time, but it’s the mainstream media and people in a position of power and authority, which includes President Trump when he comes in. He has got to get his arms around the idea that his program, Operation Warp Speed, was perhaps a good idea. He thought he was misled, he was misguided, he got poor advice, and he’s got to get his arms around that.
SPEAKER 16 :
I agree. And I agree with everything you just said, Dr. Kelly, because we know it was poor advice. I get it. Steve, he was doing some of those things to try to get the economy back on track. And that’s really what he was looking at. He knew long term it wouldn’t be good for us as a country to continue down that particular path. So I think in his eyes, he was looking at, OK, what are we going to do to get confidence back up? in people, and to Dr. Kelly’s point, had he had the right advice around him, had we ran national PSA campaigns, had we allowed people to have ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and things along those lines, Steve, we would have had a much different outcome, but he was very misled.
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Yeah, I mean, I would add to that if he just had the truth. I mean, if he had the truth that it was a lab leak virus that was created, that mRNA was probably a risk, that, you know, Moderna had killed a child, that there was all these… If he had all of that stuff, he might have said, look, I’m balancing people’s financial lives… They’re absolutely what’s going on with them and their stress level. I’m balancing that with the major risk of this vaccine. And he could have brought in a half a dozen other people, including Kelly Victor. He would have said it ain’t worth the risk. It just isn’t. You know, masks don’t work. Social distancing doesn’t work. It isn’t worth the risk. Let’s try ivermectin. He was not getting the truth. And that’s really what caused the problem.
SPEAKER 16 :
And for all of you naysayers out there that would disagree with that, there is proof now that he was not getting the truth. He was literally being lied to by the likes of Fauci and Birx and probably multitudes of others, Dr. Kelly, in his inner circle. The reality is these people literally lied and misled the president of the United States. to then, in my opinion, wreak havoc upon the American public.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and they’ve as much as admitted it, John, and in not so many words. I mean, you have Deborah Birx, the scarf lady, who came right out and acknowledges in her book, look, we made up the two weeks. We knew that if we told President Trump the truth, that we intended to shut down the government and shut down schools for a prolonged period, that he would never go for it because he’s a businessman and he would have understood the chilling effect it would have on the economy. So we didn’t tell him the truth. We told him two weeks. The same people she also acknowledged, they made up the six foot social distancing rule, which I said from the beginning it’s made up. But she acknowledges that in her book. They are now on paper having said that, no, these things were not truthful. We did it in order to control people. We did it in order to come up with something that people would believe and pay heed to. We have Leanna Wen, the Chinese woman who’s still out there on CNN. saying we needed to make life difficult for people who didn’t want to take the vaccine to motivate them to take the vaccine. You have Anthony Fauci acknowledging that he knew from the beginning that masks would not do anything appreciable to stop the spread of that virus. So they not only lied, gave poor advice, misguided. And, you know, we’re we’re fraudulent in the reporting of the data to President Trump. But they now have the audacity to come out and admit it, knowing that they fundamentally are thumbing their noses at the American people.
SPEAKER 16 :
Steve, do you know of any other industry you and I as business men and owners and so on? Dr. Kelly is a doctor. Do you know of any other industry that could get by with what Dr. Kelly just said?
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Absolutely not, because product liability, services liability, I mean, all of that. I mean, any other industry, I mean, if you were Pfizer and you were not protected by EUA status and no liability, you’d probably face enough lawsuits now you’d have to file Chapter 11. I mean, as much money as they make. I mean, I was talking about GAVA patent in one of the emails, too. I mean, Merck ended up paying, I don’t know, I think it was the number was somewhere in the $100 million range for the fact that They oversold and faked the data and threw away the placebo data on that drug. It was still used today. It was a blip. I mean, $100 million didn’t mean anything to them. Pay the fine, keep advertising the drug, keep doing the reprints out of New England Journal, and keep selling the product because it didn’t matter to them. Unless you get the liability right on these companies like Moderna and AstraZeneca and and Pfizer, they will never suffer from this. They will never be held accountable for this.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, Dr. Kelly, I read an article yesterday where there’s people out there calling for Donald Trump when he comes into office to really get a handle on the opioid crisis that we have in America. Not that something shouldn’t be done along those lines and so on. I’m not trying to downplay that. But isn’t what you and I and Steve right now and what we’re talking about a far bigger issue than even that particular topic and what’s going on with painkillers?
SPEAKER 05 :
I think it’s a much bigger issue because the reality with opioids is that you will not have an opioid overdose if you don’t either buy drugs illegally in the back alley or off the black market. And if you take the medications that are prescribed for you as prescribed. OK, it isn’t. There’s really is a very simple way to end the crisis, which is to hold people accountable. You are responsible for for whether or not you buy a drug or take a pill from your from your friend. You don’t know where it came from or what it is. Okay, that’s very different from putting out on the market a drug that people are being mandated to take in order to keep their dang jobs. In order to feed their children. So in order to put food on the table for your kids, you must take this experimental shot that is neither safe nor effective. Those are totally, you know, that’s apples and oranges. They are totally different things. Do I want to stop the flow of fentanyl? and other drugs across our border? Sure I do, because I want to stop illegal immigration. But the reality is, it is nowhere near the problem than having a government that has mandated or has told people that a drug is safe and effective and that they are being compelled to take it for fear of reprisal, and it turns out that it actually can kill you.
SPEAKER 16 :
Steve, I’ve got one minute left is all because I’ll get you guys out on time, and I’ve got some spots to run here before I finish out the hour. Your predictions, and I can’t hold you to anything, but your predictions on how much worse some of the things that we’ve talked about in regards to, you know, turbo cancers and the like. What are your thoughts moving forward? How much worse is it going to get?
SPEAKER 17 :
I think it’s going to be two or three times at a minimum worse than it is. I mean, there are times when I think we know about 5% of what the reality is. We don’t know what people are doing in villages in China or small towns in America, per se. I mean, this could be a catastrophic event. population reduction, a long-term, multi-generational problem.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. I’ll leave it at that. Guys, we’ll kick it up again next week. Always a joy. The time goes by fast. Dr. Kelly, I’ll let you go first. Thank you again, always.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you. See you next week.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right. I’ll see you next week. Happy New Year. Steve, you as well. Thank you, man, as always. You’re it, and I appreciate all you do. Always a pleasure. You’re it, and we’re just glad to be part of it. Well, thank you very much. All right, let’s do this. Veteran Windows and Doors is next. If you want to save on windows and doors for your home, as we probably at this point now head through spring, because if you get with Dave and you get things ordered, that’s about when things will get done, give him a call today. Find him at klzradio.com.
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All right, question of the day yesterday. How many years did Jack the Baboon work on the railway system in South Africa without ever making a single mistake? That would be nine years. Today’s impossible question. Why do so many country names end in Stan? Why do so many country names end in Stan? That’s it for this hour, folks. Got another couple hours coming your way. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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